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Finding Your Inner Truth and the Strength to Be Authentic—with Dr. Christina Fontana
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Welcome back to the Savvy Communicator!
Facing adversity with resilience can lead to remarkable transformations, as Dr. Christina Fontana's journey from trauma to triumph so powerfully demonstrates. In our latest episode, Christina shares the raw and often hidden struggles that shaped her, and the profound metamorphosis that occurs when one turns their deepest wounds into a source of empowerment. We delve into the essence of authentic self-expression and the hurdles that keep many from embracing their true selves, touching on the importance of overcoming subconscious blocks and nurturing the inner child.
Embarking on a transformative path often requires shedding layers of shame, guilt, and old identities. Our discussion with Christina takes us down the road from her past as a pharmacist to an empowerment coach, highlighting the life-altering teachings of Dr. David Hawkins' "Power Versus Force." We dissect the principle of ascending energetically through muscle testing and how surpassing the critical energy level of 200 can lead to a profound shift in health and behavior. Personal victories against challenges like homelessness underscore the message of hope and healing available to all who dare to step into their authenticity.
The conversation also ventures into the delicate realm of empathetic healing within the healthcare sector. Christina and I explore motivational interviewing and the 'rolling with resistance' approach that can profoundly impact client care. We recognize the emotional toll on healthcare workers and the necessity for trauma-informed practices that foster cooperative, rather than hierarchical, relationships. As we wrap up, we contemplate how authenticity in communication is not just about vulnerability; it's about aligning with one's core truths and the power that comes from showing up fully, shining with grace and an unwavering commitment to personal growth. Join us for an episode that's as enlightening as it is inspiring, resonating with those who seek to transform and transcend their challenges through the power of authenticity and self-empowerment.
If you want to get in contact with Christina, go to www.enlightenedwellnesspa . There you'll also find links to her books!
Power vs. Force is authored by Dr. David Hawkins.
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Communication for Self-Healing and Transformation
Speaker 1Welcome back to the Savvy Communicator. A new episode. Today we're talking about communication for self-healing, bringing authenticity, showing up and shining. Our expert guest is Dr Christina Fontana.
Speaker 2Christina, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here on a Friday. You're the bright spot in my day, as I'm 39 weeks pregnant and it's a bit.
Speaker 1I know I hope this will be an exciting show, but not quite that exciting.
Speaker 1Yeah, not today. I really have been so excited to talk to you because you have a beautiful website that talks about all of the things that you do, but the thing that sticks out to me is transformational leadership, that you have really come such a long way and you give back by teaching people how to shine and to be themselves and to really, you know, take communication as something that people think, oh, I can't do that, and you teach them that they can't, yeah, and I think that's wonderful. So tell us, if you don't mind, a little bit, just about your backstory and how you got on this journey.
Speaker 2Yeah. So I thank you so much, first of all, for having me on. I always acknowledge the host of these. You know the podcast that I'm on because you're so graciously allowing me to come on and share my story. So I want to say first of all, thank you to you and thank you for your kind words about my website.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's been a 12-year journey along this entrepreneurial path that I've taken, and the reason why I do what I do now is really helping small business owners to show up and shine confidently so that you can call in the clients that are ready to work with you and to scale a profitable, impactful business. And so the reason why I do that is because one of my core wounds from childhood was actually around being seen and being attuned with and being listened to, which I never felt like I really had. So my husband and I were just talking about this today, and I think that sometimes those core wounds that we have whether it's unworthiness or not being seen or witnessed can be the seed that then we heal and then bring that forth to the world. So that's really what I've done. I've turned my pain into purpose. I had a lot of trauma from childhood around, not just with that aspect of the emotional component that was missing, like really witnessing a child and acknowledging their gifts and saying like, wow, you're so brilliant. I was actually shamed for a lot of my sensitivity and a lot of the things that now I see as a gift, but I know that that was an experience that I had to move through and heal through in order to now turn around and help other people to show up and shine as themselves. And so for me, that trauma translated to a host of different health issues and relationship issues.
Speaker 2Like I had a rare eating disorder called night eating syndrome, from 18, age 18 to 25. It was a binge eating disorder. It was a lot of shame, like I said, that I had carried from childhood. And then I was also kind of manifesting men that mirrored, you know, my unavailable dad, right, like I know it sounds kind of weird, but you know, I think that however you grow up and what's familiar, that's what you're attracted to, right. So I was attracting a lot of unavailable men that couldn't provide that emotional like to see me and hear me, and it was kind of that same thing. So I became fascinated with you know, why do I? Why am I attracting these relationships? What is there that I need to heal? And that pointed me to the transformation work that I do now.
Speaker 2So hypnosis, subconscious programming, inner child healing, energy work and that's how I healed myself through that eating disorder, through this cyclical pattern of attracting different types of men that, in one way or another, couldn't love me for who I was, and so I know that pain and I am so driven to help other people who are experiencing that, like that self-sabotage or that cyclical pattern of whatever that might be that's showing up, because it's again. We're going back to what's familiar and we tend to repeat something until we heal it, and so that's really the work that I do. Yes, I help people with business, but really it's about helping people return back to the true essence of who they are. Before the trauma, before you had this identity, like I had this identity that I was a victim and that I wasn't good enough and all of these other stories that went along with those experiences that I had.
Speaker 2So it's really about transformation. To me is really about revealing your inner radiance and who you truly are at the core, and when you shine in that essence, you attract the people who are meant to heal with you, right? So even if, like, I consider what you do as an example, like you're helping people with communication, you're helping them kind of do something similar, right, like effective communication. And so I think that we all have gifts that we can bring to the table, and when we become more of who we really are, that's when we can grow our business. When we have a workable relationship with our body, with our health, we can allow new relationships, whether it's a client relationship or otherwise, we feel safe having that, whereas before, like if we don't't heal, it can be repeating some of those patterns over and over again you know it's so interesting that you put it that way.
Speaker 1I mean, first of all, let me say I'm so sorry for your trauma and all you've been through. It sounds like it was a really, really difficult time and it speaks to your strength that you've come so far. But we were talking about all the shame that you had as a childhood and I was speaking to another, a future guest on the show, and we were talking about how so much sometimes of how you grow up is you know, you either get praised for something or shamed for something, and both of those things. I've never thought of it this way. Both of those things are filtered through the eyes of the adult or the parent they are giving you. When they give you praise, it's praise based on their opinion. When they give you shame, it's shame based on their opinion.
Speaker 2I always go a layer deeper and say it's even based on their trauma.
Speaker 2Right, oh sure yeah, absolutely it's their perspective because of their past, right. So if we don't heal through trauma and realize why we're seeing things a certain way, of course we're going to project that onto the child and so that's like I'm pregnant right now. I've been doing a lot of this work to try to minimize that aspect of it, because I want to be a more conscious parent. But sorry to interrupt, I was like wait, I have to stop. Oh, not at all.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, I'm glad you did, you're absolutely right. And just the idea that you have to give affirming things to the child, to the friend, to the colleague, by reflecting it back to them and saying what do you think? What is it that they can stand as themselves and understand who they are? Sorry, I had to go off on that tangent because I thought it was so interesting, based on what you're saying, and thank you for your kind words about what I do.
Speaker 2Okay, you're receiving the compliment. You're receiving it in your heart.
Transformational Healing Through Empowerment Work
Speaker 1Yes, I am. I really am. So when you started your work with helping people to transform shine as their true selves, what was it like for you?
Speaker 2So I didn't start there. I actually started as a health I'm a pharmacist by trade and then I started doing health coaching. That was kind of the next layer of, I feel, aligning more to the work that I do now. And I was looking at health and I started to see that, you know, people had certain patterns that they did right. Certain behaviors that led to that could either contribute to dis-ease in the body or could help them heal and I started looking into empowerment work.
Speaker 2There's a book called Power Versus Force by Dr David Hawkins. Yes, I know that book. Oh my God, people usually so I'm so excited that you know about.
Speaker 1Oh yes.
Speaker 2Perfect. So this is great. So essentially that I remember seeing a video, probably 12 years ago on YouTube and somebody was talking about this, this chart, and it's all about empowerment and the different levels of energy. So, like shame is at the bottom, it's the, so when we're holding onto shame that really drags down our frequency. Shame and guilt are really the uh, the root cause of a lot of self-sabotage. So that's often where I go right away with my clients, people that I'm helping to show up and shine, because when you're when you hold onto shame, you're hiding right, you don't want to be seen, and sometimes that shows up, like for me it showed up physically as as weight. I was hiding myself. I didn't feel worthy to to have good things in my life because I had so much of this negative programming. So anyway, this chart shows that any uh, it goes from a scale of 0 to 1,000. 0 is like the lower parts of the scale are around shame, like I said. Then it's guilt. It goes all the way up. There's like all these different emotions. So fear, apathy, courage, love, bliss. And then 1,000 is like Christ, consciousness, buddha, jesus.
Speaker 2So what he found, dr David Hawkins, was that he calibrated, he could calibrate someone's energy using applied kinesiology, so it's like a muscle testing technique. He tested thousands of subjects over the span of 20 years. What he found was that anybody that calibrated at the level of 200 or below tended to have disempowering behaviors like what I was experiencing. So, binge eating disorder, I was abusing my body. I had a lot of the shame and guilt from past things that had happened in my life. I had a lot of fear in my body, in my nervous system, and so as I started to kind of study this man's work, I was like oh my God, that's me. And that led me on this path to not only helping myself but to also help other patients that I was seeing, because at that time I was still a pharmacist, realizing that when we let go, when we release shame, guilt, fear, we can surrender these lower levels of emotions and move it through our body or rewire our subconscious.
Speaker 2We're able to elevate above 200. And guess what happens above 200? You become an empowered individual that is taking good care of your health, you're choosing healthier relationships, and the key with that state of empowerment is taking control, taking responsibility of your energy. Of empowerment is taking control, taking responsibility of your energy. Like I said before, I was a victim. I was like, oh my gosh, I was abused and all of that. That was true. But I took my power back and I said, okay, that was then. This is right now. The point of power for all of us is right now and this is how I'm going to create my new future. So a lot of the work that I do with clients now it's evolved over time. It's multidimensional. So we look at things like releasing shame and guilt and attuning with the inner child and challenging beliefs and looking at rewiring your subconscious blueprint that gets formed from birth to age seven.
Speaker 2So if you had a lot of trauma or a lot of that negative programming, like you said before, about the praise and the shaming. That can be very detrimental and we're carrying that into present day and it's showing up in these different areas of our life and business or, you know, in our health or these different aspects. And I say this to empower you. I want you to leave this episode knowing that there's nothing wrong with you, that you absolutely can heal. I am living proof of it.
Speaker 2I have gone from being homeless, broke rare eating disorder, narcissistic abuse. I had a guy slash my tires, rare eating disorder, narcissistic abuse. I had a guy slash my tires. I've had all of these crazy experiences but then I've been able to heal through them with this work, to be able to write five books. I'm married to a man who's good to me. I have a, I'm pregnant, I had a fertility struggle too, like there's so many different things that I've been through and I shared my story openly because I want people to know that there is hope and healing. So I want to meet you where you are, whoever's tuning into this, whoever's listening. I want you to know that it's not hopeless, that you can absolutely heal and sometimes, looking to things like Western medicine or some of these other modalities, it can be frustrating because they're just looking at the surface.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2They're not looking at these deeper root causes or the energetic component, or the soul component of who you are. And so that's really the process of transformation is releasing, letting go, surrendering these old identities, the old beliefs, the old stories to emerge I'm almost getting a picture of a butterfly right now as your true self, and that's what I think all of us are really seeking, beyond the money, beyond these achievements or whatever.
Speaker 1We want to be loved as ourselves, yes, so yes, yes, just to add on to what you're talking about. I think that, yeah, as you mentioned when we talked the other day, it all comes out. You communicate all of that to other people, whether you realize it or not. And when we communicate things and we don't realize it, it can be so frightening because we're not sure where it's coming from and we don't know why the other person is responding as they do.
Speaker 1We talk about forming. From birth to age seven we start communicating there. We learn very quickly that well, if I scream this, way mob comes. If I just kind of fuss this way, they might not get there for a while and that's just, it's all. Trial and error, Do we? Do we tend to kind of hang on to that trauma?
Speaker 2I think that everybody has a different level of openness and a different level of resistance. That's such a beautiful question, thank you for asking that, and I can feel that right away, like, if someone's really open, if they're kind of more resistant or more logical like, as an example, people who are more analytical it can be a little bit more difficult to hypnotize them because they're, like, they're thinking like, oh well, I need to hang on every word, and it's actually the opposite. Hypnosis is allowing that person to go into it's called a theta wave brain state, where you're more relaxed and you're just allowing those suggestions to come in, to rewire the subconscious. So that's one example of how, like, resistance can kind of be a barrier to healing. But absolutely, I think all of us have, and it can be the ego. Ego can be very sneaky with how it self-sabotage shows up and the blocks or the way that we try to protect ourselves. And so, of course, like you know, one of the things that I've learned with coaching is not to meet resistance with resistance.
Speaker 2So one of the tools it's called motivational interviewing that I use is rolling with resistance, like, of course, that makes sense, that you're resistant to this, when then we can kind of dig in. So I think my approach and I've seen this with with my own father is my father was very driven by force, so we talked about power versus force. Force was at the bottom, where there's a lot of that resistance and like fighting energy, and it's very difficult to move from that place where power there's a more flow, there's a flow of state and people it's like oh, of course I want to take care of myself, of course I want to do this thing, because there's there's not as much as of that resistance at the bottom of the scale where we're holding on to all of these things. So I think it's really meeting people where they are with compassion and it all makes so much sense, like, depending on what someone's been through, whether it's a trauma, whether they've had their heart broken and they're afraid to put themselves out there, they've been rejected. I always attune with them and I'm like this makes so much sense and I think with that statement there's a softening in the nervous system.
Speaker 2It's like I'm seen, I'm witnessed, and I think from that space then you can say okay, what are you willing to work on here, like what feels most aligned, like I'll say at the end of each session, I'm like what feels like an action step, that feels like it would really help you move forward, or one or two things that you can take from the session that will that you're willing to work on, because we can talk about a lot of different things, but it's that. I'm not. I'm not a coach and you're a client. It's like this. It's that very much of a collaborative relationship that I think I would love to see in health care too. I think that that's important. Yes, yes, so that, and I think from that space, people are more receptive, right, so they're less resistant, they're more receptive. Using these different techniques used in motivational interviewing and they've done so many different studies on this it's an evidence-based subset of tools that you can use to help people with behavior change.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah you're absolutely right in mentioning medicine, especially Western medicine. I can say that they're on the path of getting more in tune, but it's going to take a lot of time and that so much of it is. You know, come in, find out what's on the surface, the symptoms, give a solution for that surface problem and go out again, and we need so much more depth of care. As I said, they're on the path towards teaching more and reinforcing more that you have to look at this patient as a whole person. But we're certainly behind where we need to be, and I'm saying we. I am not a healthcare practitioner. I work with a lot of them.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, and that's one of my goals is to you know I work with a lot of pharmacists and healthcare professionals. One of my goals is to you know, I work with a lot of pharmacists and health care professionals and my my goal is to not that I know everything and I'm like the great and powerful eyes, but I know, based upon the things that I've learned, I really want to help healers in health care to be more trauma informed and to understand that there are different components to people rather than what we've been taught in school traditionally. Like I think that you know, there's mind, body, spirit, and I think that so often it's not cohesive. It's just, like you said, that surface layer.
Speaker 1So when you work with pharmacists and other health care providers, do you find that there is a lot of emotion, fatigue, compassion? I was just talking about this.
Speaker 2So I did an earlier podcast this week with a nurse and she said the same thing. I think nurses I think especially because they're so forward-facing with patients I mean so are pharmacists, but I think nurses for sure experience because they're literally like touching the patient with the patient. They see so much more than a pharmacist, I think for sure. And it takes a certain level of capacity, like you know, nervous system capacity to be able to hold space because nurses are burnt out. There's just so much of that. So yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1Yeah, and if we don't have nurses, then the whole system kind of falls down, because their doctors depend on them to give them that information and to do the upfront care. And it can be so hard to go from patient to patient to patient and they all have these needs and they all have these needs and one of the things that I tell my students when I'm working with them is try not to armor up, try not to protect yourself too much, because they need that flow, they need to know that you're there and it's so hard, it's so hard.
Speaker 2Absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1So tell me, when you have a client that's really started to do the work with you and follow the path that you're laying you know you talk about transformation what do you start to see as someone is able to move up that scale and start to let go of some of the trauma that they've had, how does that, I would say, how does that influence how they go out?
Speaker 2in the world, absolutely, so. They're definitely more confident, I would say more open, because if you think about when you're protecting yourself, you're like this right. So when you what somebody walks into a room, or when they have to get up and speak, or even being on a podcast, there are different layers and kind of telltale signs that I can feel, based upon if someone's in their head, right in there, in the kind of the fear-based place of like overthinking which, again, that will make sense, based upon what someone might have been through Maybe they got bullied as a child or teased or all of those different things. And so that's why doing this inner healing work is so important, because your body's trying to protect you from negative consequences. And so when we can heal through that and allow ourselves to feel safe to shine, then you're going to project differently. You're going to allow, like we know, I talk to so many people that are like oh, you know, I'm afraid to what if I cry or what if I emote during my talk?
Speaker 2And I'm like that's OK, it's OK for you to get choked up, because that means that you're being authentic, you're showing that true side of you and so giving people the permission to show up and you know, ok, it's OK if you happen to cry or emote or have conviction in your voice, and so it's that self-expression that really starts to come alive. So it could be the tone of their voice or the volume of their voice, or how their embodiment is, how their body language is, and I think that directly comes from the energy from within. Like I'm hearing before about, when you feel safe in your body to be yourself and you're confident you're not going to try to hide any part of yourself or your story.
Speaker 2You're going to be okay sharing about different vulnerable parts because there's nothing to hide.
Speaker 1So that's how I think it shows up you do so much speaking and talking to larger audiences and having to come across authentically as yourself while also delivering a message, is that something that you do, allowing yourself to emote yourself, to bring in those vulnerable parts, to communicate with your audience?
Speaker 2absolutely. I did a talk earlier in February and I got choked up and I was able to continue Like there were points in my journey where I felt like I hadn't fully healed through the experience, enough to really own it and speak it. But now I think the difference is I don't kind of go down a spiral. It's like I I feel the emotion and then I'm like, ok, I can breathe through it and keep telling the story and keep sharing about it, and I think that's where people really connect with us when we're able to emote and not feel ashamed of and everybody's different.
Speaker 2Like some people, you know, I grew up believing and getting told that it wasn't OK to cry, and so I had to work through that layer of wow, I'm crying in public, in front of all these people. But I see it as such a strength because I don't again, I don't have anything that I need to hide, so I'm allowing myself to be in the moment, to be in my heart, rather than overthinking it and coming from that fearful place of, well, I can't be myself. I have to sound this way because I have a doctor in front of my name or because X, y, z, you know. So there's all of that that I've seen even in other healthcare professionals that they're like well, it's not professional if I da da, da, da professional if I did it Right.
Authentic Communication and Personal Growth
Speaker 2There are all of these different blocks and barriers that prevent us from showing up authentically. But I can tell you this whenever I, when I do talk, there is a line of people that come up and they're like oh my God, I relate to your story. Oh my gosh Right, it's magnetic because it's truth. And that david hawkins chart um, if there's another book he has called, I think it was like truth versus falsehood, and the higher you go up on that scale, it calibrates with higher levels of power and truth. So when you speak truth, it's magnetic to people and they resonate with it and there's a frequency that goes along with that.
Speaker 1Yeah, I haven't done too much personal work myself, but talking about resonating, and because I've been to conferences or whatever where there's a speaker and you just almost feel pulled out of your seat because you're just like, yes, this is. You know, you're telling my story. How is it that you're telling my? Story and it's just magical when it happens. I think that's something I am personally working on when I talk to a large audience to not only get that authenticity in my voice, in my presentation, but in my body as well.
Speaker 1Do you do work as well with you know getting someone that, excuse me, getting that authenticity kind of into the body.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, that's really what it's all about is, like I said, I think a lot of people are in their head and they're thinking okay, what do I have to say to get this outcome? Or to you know whatever that might to get this outcome, or to you know whatever that might be. And it's really you know a lot of the practices that you can do even before you go speak. It's grounding into the body, grounding into your heart. I actually say prayers before I do any kind of speaking engagement. I'm very spiritual, so I'm always asking for my guidance to just come through naturally, and I think that's where you get pulled and you don't have to think about notes. You don't have to. It's just such a flow, right.
Speaker 2It's not overthinking, or am I doing this right, or how do I look. It's about the message and the frequency and the energy, and that's what I tell so many of my clients. It's not about perfection, it's about passion, it's about you communicating the message, the frequency, the energy that is going to touch someone's heart. That will ship them, and I think that's more important than how you walk. You know me in this belly right now. I gave this talk and I was like I don't really even care what I look like. I'm nine months now, almost 10 months pregnant, but I don't care about that. In the beginning you do where it's all self-conscious. But then you start to learn and embody that true essence that I'm talking about, that showing up and shining as your true self essence that I'm talking about, that showing, showing up and shining as your true self.
Speaker 1Yeah, I love that term showing up and shining, because it's. It indicates to me that it's kind of beyond the work, because showing up is a whole, can be a whole burden in itself just getting there and then. But being able to shine as you do it, I think, takes off the burden of showing up. And so when someone, when they've done the work and they're there with you and they show up and shine, what is it that you see in them? What are they communicating to you?
Speaker 2There's just a level of ease, like I'm just tuning in right now, thinking about when someone isn't afraid to be themselves. Like I said, I think that they're they're just owning who they are, they're owning their story. There's like there's no skeletons in the closet that they're like oh well, I don't want you to know about this part of my life.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2They're just, it's an ownership, it's a level of power that's unshakable. It's that confidence of like walking into a room. It doesn't matter if I have a pimple, if I have a big belly, it doesn't matter, it's owning that we don't need to be perfect in order to make an impact, and I think that that is the biggest thing that we all need to realize, like it doesn't matter if you're older or younger. However you look, you can make an impact there's a actor, andrew garfield.
Speaker 1He played spider-man in one of the okay, spider-man franchises and he spoke very eloquently about losing someone in his family and he, you know, choked up and it went viral, I think because everybody was surprised that he would talk so openly about this.
Speaker 1Especially being a celebrity, you expect them just to you know, talk about their clothes and shoes and their latest shoot and all of that and not get into the personal Right shoes and their latest shoot and all of that and not get into the person right. And so I really vibing with what you're saying about not being afraid to be your total self and afraid to bring that authenticity. I mean, I'm a huge offender at you know, not doing that a lot of the time, because I still think very much like, well, it has to be this way. Right, you're certainly giving me a great perspective on why that's the path we shouldn't take.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I want to just encourage you to just give yourself grace, like again, all of this makes so much sense. We naturally want to protect ourselves because if you think about it, if you show it, think about like a kid on a playground, you show any vulnerability you get, you know, negative things can happen. So it's it's the inner work that we do. The inner healing is going to show up in our self-expression and how we present ourselves. And so, rather than being like, oh, I'm not doing this, right, it needs to be this way, like just having that grace, you know, and I'm still learning, I'm still growing and evolving, and I do.
Speaker 2I have coaches and I work with business coaches, nervous system coaches. So I think it's just really having grace with yourself and compassion, like, of course this makes sense based upon X, Y, z that's happened and I'm going to do the inner work to translate that beautiful, radiant heart out into the world so that I can impact even more people. So I just want to encourage you with that because you do, you have such a beautiful heart.
Speaker 1Oh, thank you, Thank you, I really, I really feel that connection.
Speaker 2It's just, you know, exploded a warm feeling in my heart, so that's really nice yeah um oh what was I gonna? Oh, here we go. You distracted. Here's your test right now. Oh gosh, see you little tears well just I would not edit that out of this podcast.
Speaker 1Okay, all right, I won't. I won't do it, okay, I mean, I'll tell you. Truly, what I want to ask is how do I work with you? So, when it's when it's all said and done, at the end of the day, what does communication mean to you? I ask this to a lot of my guests because I just always get surprised by their perspective. So, what does communication mean to you? I ask this to a lot of my guests because I just always get surprised by their perspective. So what does communication mean to you?
Speaker 2Yeah, that's such a beautiful question. So for me I always think of it. For me it comes back to the energy and how that's translating. So communication is a frequency, it's an energy, it's a way of being that allows your self-expression to be received by someone else, and I've never said it that way until just now. It just kind of came through. That's great. But I think it's everything we talked about, right? It's the whole picture of the embodiment of that soul, essence of who you are, and allowing that communication to be received by someone in an audience or a client or someone that is receiving a piece of you.
Speaker 1So yeah, I think that's such a wonderful way to put it, and what immediately popped into my head was the idea that I think that can be so tough sometimes Not that a lot of times we're really willing to give, but then the idea is, well, somebody's receiving that they're going to maybe think things prepared for right. Or when I work with students, I talk about you know, hitting the wall. Instead, you want to give this yourself to a patient, you want to be vulnerable with them, you want to let them know that you're human, but sometimes at the end so you get ready to throw that at the patient or toss it gently.
Speaker 1Right but at the last minute, you throw it towards the wall instead because you're like I just can't, and yeah. So thinking about it in terms of being ready for someone to receive you, I think is a very beautiful way of putting it yeah, putting it.
Speaker 1So I want to make sure that all of our listeners know where to contact you, because it's very important. So your website is wwwenlightenedwellnesspacom, and we'll have all of this in the show notes. So, christina Fontana, you're an author, you're a speaker, you are an energy coach and a healer for so many people, and I can't thank you enough for being here today and just thank you so much for being such a giving guest and helping us transform a little bit.
Speaker 2You know in our own homes today. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I look forward to connecting with your audience.
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