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Jessie
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Jessie
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Speaker 1
So everybody. And welcome to Thursday Thursdays. My name is Jessica and I have Max and Pam Crawford from the Max mix dot com. Hello. Hello. How are you two doing today.
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Speaker 1
Where are you two calling from today?
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Speaker 1
Kansas City. Okay. And just so you know, those of you who are just listening and aren't watching YouTube, we all have Kansas City jerseys on. Everybody stand up and show your numbers.
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Speaker 1
Woo!
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Speaker 1
Yes. So we have Mahomes and Kelsey are both represented in this house today. So I don't know when this will air, but the is it the AFC?
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Speaker 1
The the AFC championship? I don't know. It's it's the Sunday game before the Super Bowl game, whatever that is. Sorry. Yeah it's it's fun to
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watch. Let's just say that.
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Speaker 1
So
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is Mahomes your favorite player?
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't realize this, but the last game they played, they beat the Brady and Kronk's. I can't remember which record it was, whether it was passing or touchdown passing.
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Speaker 1
And I was pretty impressed by that because these guys are going to play a few more years yet.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, that's exciting.
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Speaker 1
So,
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Speaker 1
Max, are you ready to talk about Max makes?
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Speaker 1
Yes, you are. Okay, let's get right into it. So why don't you tell us what is. Max? Max?
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Speaker 1
Awesome.
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Speaker 1
Ten
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years ago. So this has been a minute in the making because I think you just really launched Max Mix this fall, Correct?
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Speaker 1
The commercially.
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Speaker 1
And so how did you get started? What was the ten years ago? What kind of got you into it
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Speaker 1
and which
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Speaker 1
barbecue contest? Nice. That's hard. You know, there's a especially is that in the Kansas City area then were you living there at the time?
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Speaker 1
that's hard.
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Speaker 1
Well, that's competition right there.
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Speaker 1
You, You were watching your dad and your Uncle Greg with these barbecue contests, which we were talking about. How they're. That's pretty tough competition right there.
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Speaker 1
So did you. Are any of your mixes barbecue rubs down or did you do something completely different?
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 1
Like smoker.
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Nice.
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Speaker 1
so they're very versatile.
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Speaker 1
Good idea. That is such a great idea. Okay, so you were you saw your dad and your uncle and you like making gifts with your mom and for teachers and friends and family. So how did the different three different spices kind of evolve over time as you were kind of making them as gifts? And people love them so much they kept you started to request them or how did how did that work?
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Speaker 1
That's great.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Well, do you should we open up the package that I have from you guys and we can kind of talk through what that looks like? Yeah. Okay, let's do it.
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 1
Do you guys want to kind of talk about what they're the. They're seeing here as they're listening?
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Speaker 1
So.
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Speaker 1
Okay, Great
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Speaker 1
idea. Do you have some ideas of how I can reuse it? My wife. This is my wife's department.
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Speaker 2
Like, maybe.
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Speaker 1
Okay, that's a great idea.
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Speaker 1
I was
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thinking maybe, like, you know how you have flour, extra flour? You could kind of set it up so it's more vertical, maybe, or sugar or
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Speaker 1
something.
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Speaker 1
Okay, So. Okay, so
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Speaker 1
this is very
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Speaker 1
cool. So when you you get this like a little kind of insert, right?
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Speaker 1
And so
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Speaker 1
you have a steak, you have a chicken and fish and pork.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Okay. Nice. That's so exciting. So you give sort of an example or you can describe each each of the different flavors.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Very
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Speaker 1
cool. Okay. So you've got your website on here and you're very you're very social. I have watched your videos and those are so much fun. I love the smoke cream cheese
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Speaker 1
one. That
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was really fun.
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Speaker 1
Yeah.
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Speaker 1
And
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you want to
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do you want to talk about what that recipe entails?
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Speaker 1
Which would.
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Speaker 1
Olive
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oil.
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Speaker 1
A
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cracker?
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Speaker 2
Nailed it.
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Speaker 1
I love it. So do you remember? Which makes you put on top of the cream cheese?
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Speaker 1
Is it the chicken and fish? One?
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Speaker 1
Okay. Okay, so let's
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get that one out. Let's. Let's see.
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Speaker 1
There's the pork.
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Speaker 1
Ooh, this one looks good. That's steak. And then here is chicken and fish. Yes. All right. My mine looks just like yours.
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Speaker 1
I cannot
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wait to use these. This is so
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Speaker 1
exciting. I just. For the audience, I waited. This package was so cute, I. I told PM I had a max. I had to wait to open it up with them because we had to walk through it because it was so much fun. Okay, so now we have we have the pork one
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Speaker 1
now for the pork.
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Speaker 1
Do you use it on anything else besides pork? Do you? Do you like this one with vegetables or anything?
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Speaker 1
You do. Okay.
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Speaker 2
Ooh.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Yummy.
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Speaker 1
I love salmon.
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Speaker 1
And
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Speaker 1
then we have the steak mix now. Looks really yummy.
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Speaker 1
Looks like there's some pretty
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Speaker 1
yummy flavors in there. Some color bright colors to it.
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Speaker 1
So this is very cool. No MSG and sugar free. That's really important to not have sugar. That's fantastic. That's a great idea.
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Speaker 1
I'm free.
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Speaker 1
Thank you. And, like, good to know I don't eat gluten. So you mentioned earlier that you, you made these labels. Do you want to talk a little bit about that?
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Speaker 1
wow. That's takes a lot of time. I mean, you I'm sure you have a lot of people. You were making these for.
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Speaker 1
Must have been a fall project.
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Speaker 1
While you're
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Speaker 1
watching football, you're sketching out some designs.
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Speaker 1
Nice with cream cheese. I love cream cheese.
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Speaker 1
That's really cool story. So. So you've been doing this now for ten years and decided to kind of make it more of a commerce, you know, a direct to consumer brand to sell to people outside of your friends and family.
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Speaker 1
Do you remember having those conversations with your mom about what that would entail or how how did that kind of had those conversations kind of come about.
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Speaker 2
A
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Speaker 2
food truck.
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Speaker 1
Breakfast
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sandwich? I love breakfast
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Speaker 1
sandwiches.
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Speaker 1
Another podcast, Max, we're going to have to talk about all those.
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Speaker 2
Ingredients.
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Speaker 1
So I could talk about that all day.
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Speaker 1
So what was that? go ahead.
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Speaker 1
No, I'm just wondering how to make that transition from making it in your kitchen to having to go the commercial route where there's all these regulations and all these, you know, certain labeling requirements and taxes and different states and all that. So how did the business side of it come into play?
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Speaker 1
Like, did you have to hire a consultant to kind of help you through all that process?
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Speaker 1
great idea.
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Speaker 1
The
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Speaker 1
max mix dot com, I love it. So that's interesting. So you found a spice mixing expert. Did they have to adjust any of your recipes then to make it more shelf stable or to adjust it in any way that was any, any significance.
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Speaker 2
Yay.
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Speaker 1
And
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Speaker 1
mix it up.
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Speaker 1
I love it.
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Speaker 1
What a cool experience, Max. That's so. Yeah, that's so exciting. So what was it like working on the design of the label with your artist then, or your designer?
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Speaker 1
Did you get a lot of input on kind of what you wanted in the colors and the design and the picture and whatnot?
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Speaker 1
That's
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Speaker 1
great
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Speaker 2
I'm.
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Speaker 1
With that Blue is the color of loyalty. Max That's a good color.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. I read every website. Everything I do is in blue.
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Speaker 2
Some, some.
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Speaker 1
Some color blue.
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Speaker 2
Well, I'm with you.
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Speaker 1
So that's, that's, that's really exciting. So you when did you launch exactly? I mean, I know it was this fall sometime.
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Speaker 1
Right?
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Speaker 1
Okay. So late fall.
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Speaker 1
Jeez, it makes me feel like that's the day I saw your dad posted on LinkedIn, because it was. It was. Gosh, it must have been in November. I saw his post and I was like, I have to be Max.
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Speaker 1
I have to be Max. I have to know the space is all about. It was really cool because he was just talking about how you had this new product and you're using it to raise money and you wanted your own business and whatnot. And so I was like, yes, I have to I have to meet this Max entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1
And so so here we are, here we are so super exciting.
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Speaker 1
Here
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Speaker 1
we are.
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Speaker 1
Those are those are good goals. That's they're they're big. They're big ones. You know, they're big ones that we all have to go through.
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Speaker 2
You know?
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Speaker 1
Yeah, but those are that's great.
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 1
Awesome.
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Speaker 1
That's amazing.
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Speaker 1
How long did that take?
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Speaker 1
Yeah, it's a
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Speaker 1
commitment.
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Speaker 1
Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Balling is fun.
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Speaker 1
Tennis is good. Tennis is hard for for us old people.
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Speaker 2
Anyway.
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Speaker 1
I guess that's why pickleball So.
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Speaker 2
It's.
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Speaker 1
So popular.
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Speaker 1
That's really cool. So you're a very active person then?
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Speaker 1
That's great. That's fantastic. So, is there anything else about the max? Max that we need to mention before we kind of jump over into your journey here? I guess we've kind of talked about the website. You can get it at the max. Max Can you buy them individually as well as the, the gift pack?
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 1
I highly recommend that, by the way.
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Speaker 1
It's awesome.
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Speaker 1
So are you planning on creating any other blends any time soon, or are you just going to focus on these three for now?
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Speaker 1
Yeah, that's a good idea.
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Speaker 1
That's
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Speaker 1
the fun part.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, I think three is a great number.
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Speaker 1
I'd add numbers is
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Speaker 1
good.
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Speaker 1
Very cool. So. So you guys are trying to get distribution then in grocery stores, in like in your local market.
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Speaker 2
The.
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Speaker 1
Nice.
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Speaker 1
That's great. How many, how many bottles is in a case
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Speaker 1
or. Okay.
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Speaker 1
okay. So you have a little stand then for the spices to sit on a little rack.
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Speaker 1
okay. Nice. Okay. Right there. At point of getting your meats. What a great idea. Fantastic. You know, I wouldn't have thought of meat markets,
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Speaker 1
but what a brilliant idea.
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Speaker 1
What a what a awesome idea to to do, you know, to test that out. Well, that was very smart. Good job. Yeah, I know. You know, a lot of people, at least in Florida, when we first moved down here, I went on next door.
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Speaker 1
It's an app where you can kind of learn about your neighborhood and whatnot. And someone had said they moved down from New York and they're looking for meat markets and it went on for three weeks of complete alley, just putting so many different ideas and there's just so many meat markets that in in the city were, you know, where I'm used to living.
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Speaker 1
I'm not used to that because we just go to Whole Foods or public or Tom you know, we just go to our local grocery store. But I'm they're kind of up and coming in the bigger cities but here they're all over and they do a lot of volume from what I see, from what I've seen as I visited, you know, certain meat market.
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Speaker 1
So that's a that's a great idea. High volume potential there. Fantastic.
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Speaker 1
Awesome. Well, is anything else I know that you you mentioned you go to events sometimes and display your product.
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Speaker 1
Do you go to like
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Speaker 1
farmer's markets and things like that?
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Speaker 1
Not yet.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. It's kind of cold.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, but I bet I've seen you on TV. So Max is a local celebrity.
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Speaker 1
I've seen him post pictures of him being on the local news. Do you want to talk about that experience? Was that fun.
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Speaker 2
Part?
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Speaker 1
That's fun.
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Speaker 1
That is really cool.
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Speaker 1
I love it. So it's a family. It's a family affair here. The Max makes.
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Speaker 2
I love.
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Speaker 1
It. Everybody's got their hand in and helping out. That's awesome. That makes it even more fun, doesn't it, Max? Instead of just having to do it by yourself, it's more rewarding
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Speaker 1
now. Everybody
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Speaker 1
has a little bit of input and it makes it that much better.
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Speaker 1
Yeah,
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Speaker 1
that's great.
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Speaker 1
Is that happening tonight?
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Speaker 1
Hey,
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Speaker 1
do
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Speaker 1
you remember what you made?
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Speaker 1
Sliders. Boom.
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Speaker 1
That is a
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Speaker 1
major takeover. That is so awesome.
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Speaker 1
You can come
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Speaker 1
here and do a kitchen takeover any time you want, but you'd have to come all the way to Florida.
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Speaker 1
It's
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Speaker 1
warm here.
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Speaker 1
We've
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Speaker 1
got the mouse.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, Yeah, it's big. Kind of up and down, but it's warm right now. It's in the seventies today, so that's really nice.
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Speaker 1
Sun actually came out.
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Speaker 1
It's nice to see
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Speaker 1
the sun
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Speaker 1
from time to time
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Speaker 1
anyway. Okay, well, this has been awesome. Max, thank you for talking to us about your your product and you know, how it kind of came to be and where you're at. And I think you have a lot of really exciting things ahead of you at this project.
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Speaker 1
And I know that when people I can't wait to
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Speaker 1
taste it, but if it's
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Speaker 1
been, you know, a favorite of many for ten years, then, you know, you've got a good product, you know, because you're covering lots of lots of different people and different taste buds. Right? So that's
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Speaker 1
exciting. So maybe you'll have to have
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Speaker 1
your dad take some of these mixes and get back into the game of maybe not barbecue, but maybe some kind of contests.
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Speaker 1
That'd be fun.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, that'd be really fun. All right, well, should we switch over back to kind of kind of talking about you, Max and you know, where you guys have kind of lived over the last few years and kind of start from where you were, where you were born.
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Speaker 1
Do
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Speaker 1
you know where are you? Where were you born?
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Speaker 1
Kind of grew up. Which which city?
00:29:58:08 - 00:30:02:08
Speaker 1
Kansas City. Right where you are right now. Nice.
00:30:02:08 - 00:30:04:08
Speaker 1
My
00:30:04:08 - 00:30:06:08
Speaker 1
mom and my answer. Born there too.
00:30:08:22 - 00:30:09:15
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:30:09:17 - 00:30:09:20
Speaker 1
We've
00:30:09:20 - 00:30:11:08
Speaker 1
got some roots.
00:30:11:08 - 00:30:25:08
Speaker 1
Okay,
00:30:25:08 - 00:30:34:07
Speaker 1
so you did go through. Okay, so it's really kind of home there then, in the sense that you really grew up there through if you went to high school and everything, that's that's
00:30:34:07 - 00:30:37:07
Speaker 1
great. So
00:30:37:07 - 00:30:42:00
Speaker 1
you have lots of friends and family that you keep in touch with, even though you're not there at this point.
00:30:42:00 - 00:30:44:07
Speaker 1
Yeah. So where did you go after that?
00:31:23:18 - 00:31:25:06
Speaker 1
Okay, excellent.
00:31:47:06 - 00:31:48:06
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:31:48:06 - 00:31:49:18
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:31:49:18 - 00:31:53:17
Speaker 1
So you're taking college college courses then.
00:32:14:17 - 00:32:21:05
Speaker 1
So how long have you been in curriculum and how long have you been How long have
00:32:21:05 - 00:32:22:05
Speaker 1
you been in Saint Louis?
00:32:22:05 - 00:32:23:17
Speaker 1
Then?
00:32:32:17 - 00:32:34:04
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:32:34:04 - 00:33:03:16
Speaker 1
Nice. All
00:33:03:16 - 00:33:05:04
Speaker 1
right.
00:33:07:16 - 00:33:09:16
Speaker 1
Which video games do you play?
00:33:09:16 - 00:33:49:12
Speaker 1
Nice.
00:33:49:15 - 00:33:51:03
Speaker 2
Okay.
00:33:56:03 - 00:34:07:02
Speaker 1
Okay. My nephews, I know played play that. The only thing I kind of know about it is that the theme changes every so often. That's all I know.
00:34:09:14 - 00:34:11:02
Speaker 1
Okay. Basketball.
00:34:18:14 - 00:34:26:14
Speaker 1
You're quite the athlete then You said so you'd like to play it on video games. You said you're into bowling your second degree black belt
00:34:26:14 - 00:34:28:02
Speaker 1
and you
00:34:28:02 - 00:34:31:09
Speaker 1
play which sport in the Special Olympics?
00:34:31:11 - 00:34:38:01
Speaker 1
Basketball. That's really awesome. Now, is that since you've been in Saint Louis or you did that before
00:34:38:01 - 00:34:45:01
Speaker 1
Saint Louis,
00:34:45:01 - 00:34:47:13
Speaker 1
so what's your favorite? Do you have one?
00:35:00:13 - 00:35:02:01
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:35:02:01 - 00:35:10:13
Speaker 1
good.
00:35:10:13 - 00:35:12:01
Speaker 1
It happens.
00:35:15:01 - 00:35:16:01
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:35:16:01 - 00:35:17:13
Speaker 1
So
00:35:17:13 - 00:35:23:12
Speaker 1
do you like to shoot the basketball or are you more of a guard on the court?
00:35:23:12 - 00:35:58:12
Speaker 1
Nice.
00:35:58:12 - 00:36:05:12
Speaker 1
All right, that's awesome. Well, I used to play basketball in high school.
00:36:05:17 - 00:36:08:11
Speaker 1
A brief stint in college, but I loved it.
00:36:10:23 - 00:36:12:11
Speaker 1
Sorry.
00:36:12:11 - 00:36:15:23
Speaker 1
I
00:36:15:23 - 00:36:18:23
Speaker 1
played all the way through one year of college.
00:36:21:11 - 00:36:23:11
Speaker 1
Yeah, Yeah,
00:36:23:11 - 00:36:24:23
Speaker 1
it was fun.
00:36:24:23 - 00:36:34:05
Speaker 1
I loved it. I you know, I was happy at she Baskets said that she baskets. I just kept shooting. Shooting over and.
00:36:34:05 - 00:36:35:23
Speaker 2
Over and over and over.
00:36:36:21 - 00:36:37:11
Speaker 1
There's therapy
00:36:37:11 - 00:36:39:23
Speaker 1
is my therapy as a kid?
00:36:39:23 - 00:36:41:11
Speaker 1
Yeah,
00:36:41:11 - 00:36:44:10
Speaker 1
it's fun. I really enjoyed a lot.
00:36:44:10 - 00:36:45:22
Speaker 1
I wish I had
00:36:45:22 - 00:36:53:10
Speaker 1
more karate like you because I think it's a good skill to have in life, you know, especially
00:36:53:10 - 00:36:54:22
Speaker 1
just to protect yourself, if
00:36:54:22 - 00:37:03:10
Speaker 1
nothing else. Just to know how to get out of bad situations I think is good. And just some basic self-defense is such a smart idea.
00:37:04:22 - 00:37:07:10
Speaker 1
My my cousins are all into it
00:37:09:22 - 00:37:11:10
Speaker 1
and I've done it so
00:37:13:22 - 00:37:15:10
Speaker 1
forms
00:37:18:10 - 00:37:22:10
Speaker 1
karate. Do you do you practice?
00:37:33:21 - 00:37:34:21
Speaker 1
great.
00:37:34:21 - 00:37:36:09
Speaker 1
So
00:37:36:09 - 00:37:38:21
Speaker 1
you'll continue on your path then?
00:37:38:21 - 00:37:41:21
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:37:41:21 - 00:37:44:09
Speaker 1
Get more degrees on that black belt.
00:37:45:23 - 00:37:46:12
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:37:46:14 - 00:37:48:21
Speaker 1
That's. That's
00:37:48:21 - 00:37:50:09
Speaker 1
impressive, Max. Not a
00:37:50:09 - 00:37:52:09
Speaker 1
lot of people can do that,
00:37:52:09 - 00:37:53:21
Speaker 1
you know,
00:37:53:21 - 00:38:04:21
Speaker 1
or have the drive to want to do that. That's really a big deal. And the from what I understand, the exercises are pretty tough. You got to be pretty strong.
00:38:04:21 - 00:38:09:08
Speaker 1
Yeah,
00:38:09:08 - 00:38:11:08
Speaker 1
well, you're an athlete.
00:38:14:03 - 00:38:15:03
Speaker 2
wow.
00:38:15:05 - 00:38:16:15
Speaker 1
That you are strong.
00:38:16:17 - 00:38:17:22
Speaker 2
Okay.
00:38:18:00 - 00:38:19:08
Speaker 1
That's pretty impressive.
00:38:19:08 - 00:38:20:20
Speaker 1
That's great.
00:38:20:20 - 00:38:33:20
Speaker 1
Sorry, Pam. I hope I'm not making you feel bad for being. For having a No, I can't really. I can see your face. I said I don't. I don't even have any other. But that
00:38:33:20 - 00:38:34:20
Speaker 1
is really, really cool
00:38:34:20 - 00:38:35:20
Speaker 1
to
00:38:36:20 - 00:38:38:08
Speaker 1
Now, what about Dad?
00:38:39:08 - 00:38:40:20
Speaker 1
you are.
00:38:47:08 - 00:38:48:19
Speaker 1
My
00:38:48:19 - 00:38:52:07
Speaker 1
wife is five too, so she does two.
00:38:54:00 - 00:38:54:07
Speaker 1
Yeah,
00:38:54:07 - 00:39:01:09
Speaker 1
but I'm only five four, so I don't really have much on her.
00:39:01:11 - 00:39:02:07
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:39:03:04 - 00:39:03:19
Speaker 1
We're pretty
00:39:03:19 - 00:39:04:19
Speaker 1
short around here.
00:39:06:07 - 00:39:17:07
Speaker 1
My mom was five eight, and I always wanted to be tall for basketball. I always wanted to be a little bit taller because five, four is a little short to go past high school.
00:39:17:07 - 00:39:18:19
Speaker 1
But,
00:39:18:19 - 00:39:27:07
Speaker 1
you know, you get what you get. I always told my dad, you play with the cards, you go right?
00:39:28:13 - 00:39:28:19
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00:39:31:07 - 00:39:32:06
Speaker 1
That's right.
00:39:32:18 - 00:39:36:06
Speaker 2
He
00:39:36:06 - 00:39:36:18
Speaker 2
yeah, it.
00:39:36:18 - 00:39:45:18
Speaker 1
Was really a good experience. It is a lot of fun. It's a lot harder because school's a lot different. And
00:39:47:06 - 00:40:04:05
Speaker 1
even though you don't take as many courses, you kind of. There's a lot more memorization and there's a lot studying that I didn't do very well at. And there's all kinds of other disciplinary things that you have to have, you know, to be able to kind of continue it.
00:40:04:05 - 00:40:10:15
Speaker 1
But I did it for about a year and I really, really enjoyed it. Played a little golf.
00:40:10:17 - 00:40:13:08
Speaker 2
But yeah.
00:40:13:10 - 00:40:14:17
Speaker 1
You golf to
00:40:17:05 - 00:40:20:05
Speaker 1
awesome. What's your favorite part of the game?
00:40:25:05 - 00:40:26:17
Speaker 1
You like to hit it far?
00:40:28:17 - 00:40:32:17
Speaker 1
Yeah, it is fun. It's hard. It's a hard game.
00:40:46:05 - 00:40:47:17
Speaker 1
Yeah, I.
00:40:56:16 - 00:40:59:16
Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah, those are fun.
00:41:00:16 - 00:41:02:04
Speaker 1
Those are. Those are a lot of
00:41:02:04 - 00:41:05:16
Speaker 1
fun. Yeah.
00:41:05:16 - 00:41:08:16
Speaker 1
I haven't played in years.
00:41:10:04 - 00:41:13:08
Speaker 1
Yeah, I know. It's kind of ironic. I live in Florida and I don't play.
00:41:13:08 - 00:41:17:16
Speaker 1
It's silly. I got to get back out there. Max. It's been too long.
00:41:22:04 - 00:41:42:20
Speaker 1
yeah. I'm watching the Chiefs game. Heck, yeah. Have you seen that network that Netflix show called? I think it's called quarterback. So where they go behind the scenes? It came out a while ago and it just kind of popped up. And so we started watching that last night.
00:41:42:20 - 00:41:56:03
Speaker 1
And it's really interesting because they kind of get to the behind the scenes of, you know, each they pick three different quarterbacks and Mahomes is one of them. And so I thought it was really interesting. Yeah,
00:41:57:15 - 00:42:03:15
Speaker 1
yeah. Mahomes is what I call him this me, myself, and I know how that is.
00:42:05:03 - 00:42:06:15
Speaker 1
But yeah, if you haven't seen it, I
00:42:06:15 - 00:42:07:08
Speaker 1
recommend it.
00:42:07:10 - 00:42:08:03
Speaker 1
Now, haven't seen the whole
00:42:08:03 - 00:42:10:03
Speaker 1
thing, but it's pretty good.
00:42:30:14 - 00:42:32:02
Speaker 1
yeah,
00:42:41:02 - 00:42:43:14
Speaker 1
that is cool. Yeah, that's right.
00:42:48:14 - 00:42:50:02
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:42:52:02 - 00:43:10:01
Speaker 1
Have, have you, does the name Bo Jackson mean anything to you for a long time ago. Bo Jackson. So, okay, if it doesn't, it's so long. He he was a player a long time ago and I got he was playing for the Raiders at the time and this is probably in the nineties
00:43:10:01 - 00:43:12:01
Speaker 1
he
00:43:12:01 - 00:43:16:10
Speaker 1
played baseball and he played football.
00:43:16:12 - 00:43:25:01
Speaker 1
Well, I got I got to see him play in Arrowhead one year and we've only been to a few games, not a lot of games, but that was kind of neat to see him play.
00:43:26:13 - 00:43:33:13
Speaker 1
but yeah, we mostly went to Royals games because it was during the summertime and when we'd go see Grandpa and Grandma,
00:43:33:13 - 00:43:35:01
Speaker 1
yes, we'd
00:43:35:01 - 00:43:37:14
Speaker 1
watch the Royals games.
00:43:37:14 - 00:43:43:00
Speaker 1
Those are fun. George Brett, I believe, is a first baseman for a long time.
00:43:43:00 - 00:43:50:00
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:43:50:00 - 00:43:58:00
Speaker 1
Then see, now I've aged out. I know they won the World Series a few years ago and that was pretty cool. I bought a bunch of stuff now.
00:43:58:02 - 00:43:59:00
Speaker 2
But
00:44:00:12 - 00:44:01:12
Speaker 2
awesome.
00:44:02:19 - 00:44:03:00
Speaker 1
That
00:44:03:00 - 00:44:04:12
Speaker 1
was really cool.
00:44:11:00 - 00:44:12:12
Speaker 1
I bet.
00:44:14:00 - 00:44:23:11
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's a hard thing to accomplish. I mean, football is hard too, but baseball is really hard. I mean, think of all the teams and the long season and all the games and
00:44:24:11 - 00:44:25:23
Speaker 1
yeah, it's pretty cool when it
00:44:25:23 - 00:44:32:23
Speaker 1
comes together.
00:44:32:23 - 00:44:41:11
Speaker 1
Well, Max, should we end up with a little commercial kind of cheer for the Kansas City Chiefs?
00:44:43:04 - 00:44:43:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:44:43:23 - 00:44:45:11
Speaker 2
Okay.
00:44:45:21 - 00:44:48:23
Speaker 1
Well, let's think of what we should do.
00:44:50:23 - 00:44:56:23
Speaker 1
Should we do. Let's go. Chiefs from the max. The Max mix team.
00:44:58:23 - 00:45:01:09
Speaker 2
Yeah. Okay.
00:45:01:11 - 00:45:07:02
Speaker 1
We got us. You got to be loud. Those. Is that going to bother anybody in your on your side of the room?
00:45:07:02 - 00:45:08:22
Speaker 2
Okay.
00:45:12:01 - 00:45:17:10
Speaker 1
Is your mom is she is she being shy over there or is she going to join us?
00:45:17:10 - 00:45:22:10
Speaker 1
Okay, well, it's
00:45:22:10 - 00:45:23:14
Speaker 1
up to you.
00:45:23:16 - 00:45:24:17
Speaker 2
Hey.
00:45:24:19 - 00:45:33:10
Speaker 1
I'll leave it up to you. We could do both. We could do both. One with and one without, if you want. No, this post both.
00:45:39:10 - 00:45:46:09
Speaker 1
You can do the what do you call it when you come in. But the surprise photobomb you can photobomb us.
00:45:47:21 - 00:45:56:09
Speaker 2
Yes, that's it. Yeah, Mom, the photobomb?
00:45:56:09 - 00:45:57:21
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:45:57:21 - 00:45:59:21
Speaker 2
All right.
00:45:59:21 - 00:46:00:21
Speaker 1
Max, you ready?
00:46:00:21 - 00:46:04:21
Speaker 1
All
00:46:04:21 - 00:46:11:21
Speaker 1
right. One, two, three. Let's go. Kansas City Chiefs from the May 16.
00:46:12:03 - 00:46:13:09
Speaker 2
Woohoo!
00:46:13:09 - 00:46:16:09
Speaker 2
Go! Kansas City
00:46:16:09 - 00:46:17:21
Speaker 2
photo
00:46:17:21 - 00:46:19:09
Speaker 2
Mom!
00:46:20:11 - 00:46:20:21
Speaker 2
Woo!
00:46:20:21 - 00:46:22:05
Speaker 2
My hubs. My home.
00:46:22:05 - 00:46:22:21
Speaker 1
Is.
00:46:25:06 - 00:46:27:08
Speaker 2
Right. All right. I think they're going.
00:46:27:08 - 00:46:38:08
Speaker 1
To get pumped with that one. I love that. That was so much fun, Max. But we might have to make this a tradition somehow. Every year we get our own little commercial cheer. Yeah,
00:46:45:20 - 00:46:47:08
Speaker 1
that's a great idea.
00:46:47:08 - 00:46:48:08
Speaker 1
I will put
00:46:48:08 - 00:46:49:08
Speaker 1
your website on it.
00:46:50:20 - 00:46:57:09
Speaker 1
I'll make, like, a little short that we can send out, and we'll put max mics all over it and see if they will buy.
00:46:57:09 - 00:46:59:08
Speaker 1
So it'll be fun.
00:47:00:20 - 00:47:04:08
Speaker 1
Yes. Okay. We're a good team.
00:47:04:08 - 00:47:06:20
Speaker 1
Teamwork.
00:47:06:20 - 00:47:10:07
Speaker 1
Love it. Well, Max,
00:47:10:07 - 00:47:12:19
Speaker 1
that
00:47:12:19 - 00:47:14:19
Speaker 1
I love that. Can you say that again?
00:47:26:07 - 00:47:40:08
Speaker 1
Yeah. Good job. All right. I love that. I haven't heard that in a long time. Thanks for reminding me of that one. Yeah, it's a good one. Love it. Is there anything else, Max, that we haven't talked about that you're.
00:47:40:13 - 00:47:43:07
Speaker 1
You want to mention or.
00:47:47:08 - 00:47:47:19
Speaker 2
Okay.
00:47:54:06 - 00:47:55:18
Speaker 2
Okay.
00:48:46:17 - 00:48:47:15
Speaker 2
Woot.
00:48:47:15 - 00:48:50:05
Speaker 1
Yes, I love it. Go, Chiefs
00:48:50:05 - 00:48:51:05
Speaker 1
Boo
00:48:51:05 - 00:48:52:17
Speaker 1
Boo!
00:48:57:17 - 00:48:59:05
Speaker 1
We rocked it.
00:49:13:16 - 00:49:16:16
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:49:47:04 - 00:49:48:16
Speaker 2
Yay!
00:49:50:16 - 00:49:52:04
Speaker 1
I love that.
00:50:05:15 - 00:50:07:15
Speaker 1
Amazing. Also
00:50:12:15 - 00:50:18:04
Speaker 1
funny and sassy. Well, you got to have a little sass in the fam that makes it a little bit more fun.
00:50:18:06 - 00:50:20:01
Speaker 2
Right?
00:50:20:03 - 00:50:20:15
Speaker 1
Well,
00:50:20:15 - 00:50:21:15
Speaker 1
spicy.
00:50:24:10 - 00:50:24:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.
00:50:24:23 - 00:50:25:07
Speaker 1
There you.
00:50:25:07 - 00:50:26:09
Speaker 2
Go.
00:50:26:11 - 00:50:26:15
Speaker 1
Well,
00:50:26:15 - 00:50:32:15
Speaker 1
you just got to give it back at Max, that's all. If there's a little sass, you just give it back.
00:50:40:02 - 00:51:00:10
Speaker 1
that's good. That's good. Okay, well, this has been an absolute pleasure of mine, Pam Panamax, You've been a great, amazing guests, and I just wanted to let you know, Max, by the way, I am using our this podcast to launch my food innovation segment.
00:51:00:12 - 00:51:17:14
Speaker 1
So I have mostly done a beverage. I've tapped into a little bit of tech bites with some tech to a podcast, but this is my first food podcast, so I'm super excited to launch it with, with your podcast. This is so fun. Max
00:51:19:01 - 00:51:20:13
Speaker 1
Nailed it.
00:51:23:01 - 00:51:24:05
Speaker 2
Nailed it.
00:51:24:07 - 00:51:49:19
Speaker 1
All right, cool. Well, well, I don't want to go, but I guess we have to and you need to get you need to get back to your family there and enjoy your time with them while you're in town. And congratulations on the the new distribution of the at the butcher shop. That is super exciting. If you have a picture, send me one and I'll put it on the podcast.
00:51:49:21 - 00:51:52:01
Speaker 1
That's pretty cool. Give a shout out to that that
00:51:52:01 - 00:51:53:13
Speaker 1
gentleman and
00:51:53:13 - 00:51:55:13
Speaker 1
yeah, go
00:51:55:13 - 00:51:57:01
Speaker 1
chiefs and we'll be in touch.
00:51:57:01 - 00:51:58:13
Speaker 1
How about that? Be in touch.
00:51:59:17 - 00:52:01:00
Speaker 2
Okay. Okay.
00:52:01:12 - 00:52:02:12
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:52:02:12 - 00:52:10:00
Speaker 1
good idea. I will. Of a opinion. Yeah. Ping an insta and let you know.
00:52:10:00 - 00:52:12:12
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00:52:12:12 - 00:52:15:00
Speaker 1
All right. Go chiefs.
00:52:15:00 - 00:52:18:12
Speaker 1
Yes, of course. Thank you.
00:52:18:12 - 00:52:20:00
Speaker 1
It's been my pleasure.
00:52:20:00 - 00:52:21:19
Speaker 1
All right.
00:52:22:00 - 00:52:24:17
Speaker 2
Okay. Bye.
00:52:25:02 - 00:52:28:14
Speaker 1
Tune in next Thursday and have a great week.
00:52:28:14 - 00:52:34:12
Jessie
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