Black salve is a paste derived from bloodroot and has long been used as an alternative and natural cure for cancers and other ailments. Its modern use remains controversial; with its advocates praising its benefits and its opposition stating that it is highly dangerous and indiscriminate. Dive into a firsthand story of this traditional medicine being used today as we speak with a woman who has successfully applied it to remove her stage 3 breast cancer tumor at home.
Connect deeper with our guest Lauren Meadowsweet HERE
Reach out with questions or to begin your own healing journey HERE
Black salve is a paste derived from bloodroot and has long been used as an alternative and natural cure for cancers and other ailments. Its modern use remains controversial; with its advocates praising its benefits and its opposition stating that it is highly dangerous and indiscriminate. Dive into a firsthand story of this traditional medicine being used today as we speak with a woman who has successfully applied it to remove her stage 3 breast cancer tumor at home.
Connect deeper with our guest Lauren Meadowsweet HERE
Reach out with questions or to begin your own healing journey HERE
Welcome to Women of the Wild Podcast. Here, our community of wise women comes together to explore and discuss naturopathic medicine, fertility free birth, and cultivating inner peace and joy through embracing alternative lifestyles. These are powerful women and pioneers in the modern age who choose to live and heal free of Westernized limit. Many we will speak to have bravely and successfully cured themselves through chronic and even terminal illness prior to setting forth on their mission to offer healing to others. Together we return to our roots, to our inner wisdom and our birth rights to the wild in all of us, and together we grow to change the world. I'm your host, Jenny Dice. Hi everyone. Thank you for joining me today. Today we have an incredibly special guest on Her name is Lauren Meadow Suite, and I'm gonna let her introduce herself a little bit all right, well, hello. Thank you for having me. I am Lauren Meadow Suite and. Gosh, how to introduce myself. I have been on a healing journey for a very long time. I was going on a walk this morning and I was like, I don't even know I'm just gonna Give this to God, give this the spirit. Like when you're like, what do you wanna talk about? I'm like, it'll be really interesting to see what comes out because I've done one interview since my cancer diagnosis and. That was a while ago and I feel like I've died and been reborn, like 500 Right. We'll just see what comes out. Thank you for holding this space. Yeah. I think my rock bottom and like the crux of what really made me not be able to ignore my body anymore was in November of 2019 and I became housebound, bedridden. I had rashes covering my body my pelvis was so swollen, I couldn't even sit on a toilet. I couldn't work. I was dependent on other people to take care of me. Did this just come out of nowhere Yeah. Actually already been trained as a nutritional therapist. I was a GAPS practitioner, which stands for Gut and Psychology Syndrome, or Gut and Physiology Syndrome. And I think we get into these healing modalities and alternative healing modalities because we have issue. and the mainstream medical system can't really help us, can't really offer us what we need or we don't feel safe within that container. And so for me, When I was 15, I started having like really severe mental health issues. I struggled with self harm, cutting myself. On the surface, everything was fine, right? I grew up in a very stable home in Kansas and nothing ever happened, you know? everything I needed was provided for, but at the same time, like they're just, they just felt like there was something dying inside of me. And so I feel like that's like. Where I got a P T S D diagnosis, bipolar A D D I got on pills, you know a lot of times that makes the symptoms worse. You know what I mean? With the, with so many different diagnoses and so many different pills and so many different things, they just kind of throw at you to see if it works If you go, you know the naturopathic route, which I think that you kind of took on yourself I feel like you have a better chance. Healing because you're getting to know yourself. You're getting to know your own body and using your intuition and everything that nature provides to learn about yourself and your body and everything that's going on there's so many different. Aspects that contribute to our health. That's not necessarily that, you know, like something bad doesn't have to happen to trigger something in your brain where you need to do some healing. You know what I mean? Like I find that really interesting that you said, you know, you live in Kansas and nothing ever happens kind of thing. But that doesn't always mean that everything is perfect Yeah. And I love how you said like, yeah, there there are, there's so many layers to healing. So a lot of times we think of like, oh, you have mental health issues. That means you need to talk to someone. That means you need therapy. And sure. Yes. But I, there's an incredibly physical component to mental health and. Mental dis disease in general, and I didn't learn that until years later. And I have so much compassion for people. I feel like pharmaceuticals have a place where you're in. you're in a situation that you literally can't get out of on your own, and it's gotten to the point that it's so bad that it's now an emergency. I don't want to completely be like, oh, but every single pharmaceutical pill is incredibly hard on your liver, and your liver is responsible for over 500 functions in the body. You know, it's not. For you to detox alcohol, I feel like what we, what we learned growing up and it, it does everything and it's huge. It's like the size of a football, you know? And. So it did, I, I got to the point that I kind of got functional again because I was in a state of psychosis, but that was really what I understood, the beginning of my journey, healing my microbiome and understanding that depression, anxiety panic attacks are actually from this toxic overload that happens when our microbiome isn't fully developed. The modern lifestyle, shocking, degrades our microbiome over generations. And then we inherit our microbiome from our parents. And so it's not, we're not at this point, we're like third, fourth generation processed food. A lot of us modern Americans as it were. And it's to the point that. Young people are getting sicker and sicker and sicker, and I, I felt really isolated and sad about my situation because, Yeah, it started with mental health, but then it started becoming really physical, right? And I told you that I have these rashes and I was bedridden. And so I felt like I was getting to the point that I could manage my issues, but that anytime I would go through a stressful event or. Try to integrate back into normal society again. I would just get sicker and sicker and sicker. And so basically, long story short, you know, years later I found out that it was cancer. What was the, I guess, gap between you becoming ill and you discovering. The reason for it did you end up going to a hospital or doctor? Yeah. So my story is really unique. It's very controversial. And it's mine, it's my path. And I think that something sos. Scary to navigate when you have a disease like cancer, there's so much weight to it. There's all these movies that we've seen of and these images of people with a bald head and chemotherapy and, you know, vomiting spending your life next to the toilet kind of thing. And for me what I realized was, so we'll go back to my rock bottom, which is actually not when I found the cancer, it was before that. Basically when I became housebound, bedridden, swollen, covered in rashes, couldn't get out of bed kind of thing I learned that. I had record breaking amounts of pesticides in my body and I was working with a naturopath who helped me with this. And when I say. Naturopaths. That's such a broad term because I have worked with naturopaths that have made me worse though. I don't wanna just say like, oh just find anyone that has naturopath stamped to their name and, and have them help you. Very good point. Do your due diligence on who you're working with and make sure they align with you and what you're trying to heal and process, right? Mm-hmm. Right. And I think that this is like such a beautiful opportunity to trust our intuition too. It's like, oh, this person might seem really good on paper, or I know that I'm supposed to go to this person or get this kind of doctor, but my body or something inside me is just screaming no. And. This was the exact opposite with this ex practitioner I experienced. I was like, I have to see her now and I mean yeah, you wanna be in love with your doctor That's a standard thought. this is a standard that we hold. And so yeah, she like ran some tests and she, she was informed and very well educated on the protocol that the gut healing protocol that I had already been doing. But I really needed professional help to. Help me understand what was going on, because there was a point where it wasn't working and we had to figure out why. And so that's when we found the record breaking amounts of pesticides. And at this point, I'm at the end of my rope. I feel like I'm dying. She found, we found Lyme disease. We found record breaking amounts of pesticides in my body, and she specializes in last chance cases. And she said, she's like, these are off the charts. Do you believe it was from the environmental factors of where you lived? Definitely. And. What happens when we have a healthy microbiome is that we have this beneficial bacteria, these microorganisms, which is our birthright and they detox. So they keate heavy metals. They make sure that anything you're exposed to gets processed and expelled. Through multiple detoxification avenues. And so when you don't have the physical resources to deal with these environmental contaminants, you just, it just builds and builds and builds in your body. So I think part of it was constitutional and just kind of like the situation I was born into. But also, yeah, I've been exposed to a lot of pesticides in my life. Kansas is basically a gigantic. Monsanto cornfield. And I did not grow up with any natural food, you know low fat diet just very food pyramidy. And I never really felt good, but I just thought that was normal. And then, yeah, I mean, shortly after puberty I just started falling apart. Wow. And so I got really furious. I actually was trained in the environmental sciences. I was trained as like a scientist, like a botanist in college and did a lot of environmental conservation work, but it, my health did get to a point that I was like, I. I can't do field work anymore. I need an inside job, sitting at a desk. And so it was a really huge transition for me. Mm-hmm. But what I found, and I didn't know I was doing this at the time, but what I found was that I took my environmental science background and instead of. using that to restore external ecosystems. I turned inward and I was like, let's restore the ecosystem within and, and how do we create an environment where basically when you have a lot of toxic build up in your body, you need parasites and candida and these pathogenic organisms to feed. and on some level they're actually neutralizing this toxicity in your body. It's really interesting. candida is this really big conversation in the natural health world and everyone's like, don't eat sugar, just starve it. And it's like, sure, part of it. Table sugar. I call that like the hard stuff, like the white powder And yeah, it's really great to like. Eat that. Right, right. If you're struggling with Right. Candida symptoms and stuff, but really, what candida will do when you have a high metal load and pesticides are super high in metals. Mm-hmm. Is that candida will wrap around this metal like a comforter and it will create this buffer between the metal and your actual Bloodstream body, the endothelial lining, your cells, you know? And so it's actually very necessary because candida overgrowth is a lot better than mercury poisoning. It's like pick your poison. Right? Right. But that's something really empowering that I learned because it was like, oh, my body knows exactly what it's doing what do I need to give it so that the candida isn't needed anymore? How can I basically, once my doctor and I focused my protocol on detoxing these pesticides, I started improving. Yeah. And it was really, really low. and it didn't feel like I was healing at first. It didn't feel like I, like I questioned the process every single moment, what did your process look like at the beginning? So something, cause I feel like gut healing and gut healing protocols are very trendy right now. Yeah. I think something that separate. What I was doing from what you would just kind of find online, right? If you were searching for it, is that and the first thing that I was told to focus on was fermented brine. So not, not fermented vegetables, fermented brine. And the reason that this is, is because the microbes in the fermented brine will. Get like, because it's liquid, it goes right into your bloodstream and they actually digest the pesticides. So There's this study done on kimchi where they used conventional vegetables and they measured the glyphosate levels in, pre fermented vegetables. And then they measured it after it was like traditionally fermented. And what they found was every single trace of glyphosate was gone. The structure of the molecule of glyphosate actually will it's like very similar to them, you know, acid glycine. And so it'll store in your joints, it will store and connective tissue. And there's this kind of narrative that we don't know how to get rid of it. We don't know how to detox it from the body and. I found that to be very untrue. And then the second thing I really focused on, and this was, this was like the backbone of my gut healing protocol, right? And like these fermented brine you can't buy them from the store. Is like something too where you're like, okay, it's time to roll my hands up because I can't, yes, this costs resources, but it also requires actually physically showing up and doing this. It was work to make all your own food from scratch and learn traditional ways of preparing food and eating the way that our ancestors ate, you know? Mm-hmm. It, it was very grounding. There was something, it was like something to do with like the very limited amount of energy that I had. It was like, okay, like I don't know what to do, but I know that I need to make these preventative brine The other part of the backbone to my healing protocol was meat stock. And so this is something that is different from bone broth and I feel like we hear like bone broth, bone broth, bone broth. Mm-hmm. But what's really different? With meat stock is that it is a much quicker cooking time and instead of bone broth is really like, okay, we're gonna put these bones and water and we're gonna cook them for 12 to 24 hours. And there's like really intense people with bone broth. Like we're gonna cook it for like days, you know? And actually, actually what happens when you do that is you cook a lot of the collagen out. That's so American, right? It's like more and better and it's like, no. So meat stock is basically, It has to be at least a one-to-one ratio between meat and bone. And so it, it's really focused on harvesting the components of connective tissue, and then that is the glue that heals and seals your intestinal lining. So only bring the conversation back to candida because I love bringing the conversation back to Candida What what happens when candida? So candida is part of a healthy internal ecosystem. It's what we call an opportunistic micro flora. And it has this protective component, right? It, it has a way of serving the body. But basically when we don't have that beneficial flora, that is our birthright that so many of. We're not born to have Candida takes the space of what a normal, healthy ecosystem is. And so that's where we call it overgrowth, right? Yeah. When it's in check, it starts out like, The size of a golf, let's, let's just say like we're blowing everything up here, but let's say it's like the size of a golf ball and it's like this shape. It's just like this like round little thing. But when it's not held in check, it grows to the size of a tube sock. And then what happens is that it starts growing these tendrils. Out from its body. And they have found in cadavers yeast, tendrils, like candida, tendrils like up to like four feet long in people. And so what these tendrils do is they like, think about It's gosh. And you wonder, and you wonder like why people feel so awful, you know? Candida, like releases 176 different kinds of toxic gas. So you can imagine when you have an overgrowth of candida, it's like this can show up in your brain. This can show up in mental health. This can show up as pain. Yeah, this can show up as digestive issues. It really just depends on what your individual situation is. But meat stock what it does it, it is the glue that seals your intestinal lining back together in that leaky porous gut. Right? And so it's so powerful that it will, when it's like. Gluing everything back together, it will decapitate these yeast tendrils. And then instead of this low eeking out of all these different kinds of toxic gases that are responsible for so many of the undesirable symptoms we experience as humans in a body. Right? The candida will all of it Suboxones at once when it's dying, and that's where you get like a die off reaction or a detox reaction. Mm-hmm. And so I've spent a lot of time in my life feeling nauseous, feeling tired. And that's why you don't feel like you're healing because. It just like the uncomfortability, I know that's probably not a word, but the uncomfortability of transformation and death and rebirth and you're like, I feel like something's dying inside of me. Because it, because it's, and I feel like so many people, they get caught up. Like they, they stop the progress at that point because they're like, Oh, okay. I feel worse than before. It's probably not working. So they just kind of give up on the healing process as opposed to pushing through the difficult parts and coming out on the other side, healed, actually healed but that, that little dying off process, I mean, I've done it myself. It is not the most fun but when you actually push through and you do the work, it's with anything in life, you know, your mental health, your physical health, everything takes work and it takes time. Nothing is instant in this world. Right. Especially with, as you were saying, like generational disease that we have, it's going to take a lot of time to reverse. So I'm so curious moving forward a little bit to now, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of people that have questions about your cancer healing and about how all of that came about as well. Yeah. So basically like with these methods I became, I, we became strong enough to like leave my house, leave my bed. I literally didn't go past my front porch for two months, you know? And so it was like this process of. Reawakening and stepping back into my life and being that own example for myself of how powerful our bodies are when given the resources that it needs, like the body heals itself. It's just about leveraging that. And so that's the worldview that I carried with me going forward cuz there was no way I could deny it after my experience. And then take such mental force too make the decision that you made to move forward in the way that you did you know, Going from diagnosis to being like, all right, you know what, I'm, I'm strong. I can do this on my own. Like, how was that mentally for you to, to be able to make this decision, to take this immense journey on yourself It took everything Yeah. That I had. And I felt like I was being prepared in, in retrospect for the incredibly controversial approach that I've also taken with my cancer. none of my family was really behind it. Luckily I'm from a background a mom who wants to fix everything and so we ended up going to therapy around it and all of this stuff where it was just, I think in this post-colonial phase, everyone's got an opinion of what everyone else is doing with their body. And so for me it was just like, I feel called in this direction and it's my body and I get to do what I want. And initially I wasn't strong enough to really stand up for myself. I had a partner at the time who was really there for me he would come with me and it's so crazy to think about how far everything's evolved since then. I haven't been with him for years, but It was really hard. Everything I'm doing feels like I am a salmon swimming upstream. It's like there's nothing at this point that will stop me it's like every cell in my body is like, we are doing this, but just everything that you face. Just going through that process in a world where everyone's telling you to be a certain way, choosing your own truth and choosing your own path is the bravest, most difficult thing that you will ever do. I've gotten so much pushback and so we can fast forward to yeah, let's talk about the cancer. That's the juicy stuff, right? And that's what's really me to the next level and just broken me open in so many ways and just the most challenging thing I've ever been through in my life. But basically what was happening is that I had healed so much that I was still having some lingering issues and pesticides are inextricably linked to cancer, and this has actually been proven in. Monsanto lawsuits this started with a groundskeeper in California who had an accident with Roundup and ended up getting a terminal diagnosis of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma. Mm-hmm. and. He ended up taking Monsanto to court and I think originally I keep on forgetting the exact number. I think originally they awarded him like 320 million or something because there's actually paperwork and proof that Monsanto had known their pesticides had caused cancer for the last two decades. So yeah, there's like a lot of anger I'm processing too. Yeah. Cause it's like, oh yeah, gosh. There's just so. in the system that, and I mean, I've told you like just from like living in the modern world and being born to modern parents like you are at such high risk intergenerationally being born with a microbiome that doesn't work and that is responsible for how your immune system functions, how your brain functions, how your liver will detox and you. Process your hormones and it, it's, it's everything. It's, it's the soil from which we grow. And so I, I knew that in my journey I was aware of this information. I knew that pesticides had caused cancer and I had been following this case because I felt very connected to it, but basically I was having really a really hard time Keating. And for those of you don't know, chelating is removing metals from the body. It's very dangerous. I don't recommend you do it yourself. I was working with my doctor but I was so sensitive to this process where I would put a speck of ke later on the inside of my ankle and then it would take me eight months to recover. And so I I started wondering, I was like, something's. Not quite right. And you know, you can like kind of feel that in your body, like something's off. The body's so intelligent and so the doctor that I had been working with had actually found out that she had stage four breast cancer and had been healing herself from it naturally and gone. For those of you who don't know, like. Stage four cancer is a terminal diagnosis. But my doctor was healing herself. She just became more and more glowy and she was thriving. And so I asked her about it. I was like, do you think that I could have cancer? And. I thought that she was gonna be like, no, you're young. Like that cancer doesn't happen to people like you. You know, I'm 32 years old. And she was just like, I think you have a good point. And then I asked her, I was like, how did you find out that you had cancer? Because like, yeah, I, I've had really traumatic experiences with the medical system and like, do you recommend going that route? Or like, how do we go about this? And, right. I had had a. Found a lump in my breast like six years prior, and I went and got it checked out by conventional the mainstream medical system. And they were like, your risk is really low. It's probably nothing, but if it gets any bigger, as long as it expands and contracts with your period, it's fine. And so that's kind of like the knowledge that I went with forward that. and I had, it was a really terrible experience too. It was like, I waited like two hours and then they spent 15 minutes with me. I didn't wanna go back. Yeah. You know, and they didn't help me. And so this is one of the most controversial parts of my story so Black Self is this ancient remedy that has been used to. Pull tumors out of people's bodies. And there's documentation that native people have used this. And it's so incredibly valuable. However, it is illegal to buy or sell in the United States. And they're also pharmaceutical companies, black cells actually under research for a patent. But I feel like we all have varying degrees of knowledge of, of where our current medical system came from, and all of the traditional medicine women who, and, and midwives and healers who were burned and killed and you know, people sacrificed. For you know, this system that is currently in place and my education and my knowledge of just. Herbal medicine in general, like I am, I feel privileged enough to have learned that. But that's the perspective that I'm coming from is that these ancient ways that people have been using for thousands of years have a lot of value and exterminating that was necessary for everything that our medical system is today. And so and this is also kind of a shift over between matriarchy and, and patriarchy, you know? So this is a system and it's been a process. The way I feel like nothing is good or bad, but everything's a choice, right? and I got a recipe, you can't buy it, but you can make. And it, it's black, you mix all these herbs together and it smells so weird and you feel like you're making some kind of witches brew. Just the energy around it. I was like, whoa, this is really powerful. Black solve has a lot of history behind it. And you know, people don't just use it for tumors. People use it for like warts and skin tags and pulling unwanted things from the body. Right. So I have this suspicious lump, right? And my doctor told me, she was like, as soon as you told me that, I that you've had it. But it took me six months between the time that my doctor was like, you should try this black cell. And, and basically what you do is you put like a dime sized amount on a suspicious area. But the way that, you know, it's cancer. Is that the area around it turns white and it was the most dramatic thing I think I've ever done where I put a little bit, a dime size amount on this lump that I've had for years, you know, and it literally starts pulling the tumor out of your body. And I made, I didn't know what I was doing. Time, but I documented this entire process and then ended up making a documentary and posting it to YouTube. And I just called it Cancer in all caps. And that's really, I feel like where the way I approached my work really changed. It took eight days for the tumor to leave my body and then healing from it is like healing from a major surgery. So afterwards I had this huge gaping hole in my breast and I had to be really, really Easy for a little while after that. And then you're also processing the fact that I, I literally just pulled a tumor, like a, a tumor out of my body and I have cancer and what do I do next? Got so much to process I'm sure as along with having to heal physically from what you just went through your mind would just be so overloaded with everything How did you handle all of that? Not well. I I think I did well considering the circumstances, but Right. I was, I was, I was an absolute train wreck. I was by myself because my parents didn't support what I was doing, and I had moved back in with them after I had broken up with that partner, fiance person that I briefed. Mentioned who take care of me for a while that was part of why it took six months is my doctor was like use this black sal and we'll see what happens. And then we can get imaging done if we find cancer and we can see what stage it's at, which ended up being stage three advanced stage three. And I didn't know any of this at the time that I pulled the tumor out, so I was like, okay, I think this has been here for years. It's probably stage four or if it was stage one, maybe it's fine and just laying awake at night, in terror and not being able to tell my family and not really having anyone. I feel like. Just in this modern day and age, and I kind of brushed on this topic of like everyone's got an opinion of what everyone else is doing with their bodies. And so for me there very limited amount of safe spaces that I can actually process this experience there are so many people who will not be able to hold this space for me. And so I was alone. I was on bedrest for weeks. And I think something that's actually really beautiful and powerful about herbal medicine is that it is not just physical. There's an emotional component too. So in a traditional sense, I'd go to the doctor and get a biopsy and then some doctor's office and be put on chemotherapy and go under radiation. So I actually was very protected from all of that through this experience I went through with a black sal and the space that my doctor was able to hold for me because basically, if you put the black stove on and you don't feel anything after three to four hours nothing's there but what I felt, and it came on a lot slower than I thought it would, but I was like, I think I feel a little polling and then like, oh, I'm probably just imagining it or something. But there was a moment where I was laying in bed with my cat that I just knew. and I had an appointment scheduled with my doctor the next morning. So I had to get through that whole night with just me having this information by myself. I was in my bed, with my cat and I was like, this is how, this is how you should find out that you have cancer. Like, it was like such a. Holistic experience. And then it's really interesting, when the tumor was actually coming out, basically it gets pulled to the surface and then it separates from your body. I was definitely freaking out. But there was a huge section time when you don't fully grasp or process or integrate something, it was just like, it felt like the information was just bouncing off my head and then falling back on the ground or something. I couldn't hold space for it. But yeah, when the tumor leaves like that, like so slowly versus. Cutting it out. And there was, there's like scientific reasons I chose to do what I did. I have actually a lot of background in the hard sciences and but basically when you cut into cancer, cancer is alive. It's an organism. And so it's like anything else. Like you, we walk into the woods, there's like a bunch of animals there, they run. And so when you use the black sal, it it, it doesn't instigate that kind of response. It just pulls out whatever your body is strong enough and capable of. And so I realized too, I wouldn't have been strong enough to do the black cell, up until that point. Mm-hmm. But it was really, and this is, this is deep ancestral stuff too, where as the tumor was leaving and by the time the tumor had left, I understood. I had experienced so many emotions around my paternal side of my ancestry. I knew that the cancer had come from there. I knew what had happened to'em and I had been kind of researching it before just. Wanting to know where I came from. So wanting to understand what my lineage was healing from, you know, yeah. But spelling that tumor from my body. It was like a whole other level of awareness of I felt like so much imposter syndrome. Around what I was doing, and they're so, like, all you have to do is like, disagree with like one thing in the medical system and you just like automatically get labeled as a quack, right? And you know, so I had to deal with my own limiting beliefs around that. But Actually something that really helped, and this is something too, when you really show up for yourself on your healing journey and do the thing that you're really scared of, support came in from all different angles. Once I really started like owning my experience and what I was going through, my friend ended up having his mother. HA was a medical doctor. She was an ob gyn and opted out of chemotherapy, and he was like, she. She called me on a Saturday, you know, and talked to me completely for free, just because she wanted to help me. Yeah. And I ran my treatment plan through like, through by her, and she was like, that sounds incredible. That sounds like it's really gonna work, and whoever's helping you is doing a really good job. And I'm like, yeah. The person who's helping me is, he has been healing herself from Stage four cancer it's like the whole universe conspires when you're on the right path to help continue guiding you along your way. Everything is so connected and when you choose to take your power back and you take control of your own system, your own body, your own mental awareness and state it's so healing on so many levels Whatever you're feeling inside your body is real. Your body is so intelligent and it's way more intelligent than our. Will ever be. I think we were taught that everything needs to be derived from logic, but that really is helpful to a certain extent and I've used a lot of logic to put together this protocol that I'm using to heal from myself from cancer successfully. But really the origin, the seed is trusting yourself When something feels off, that's, it's off. If you're uncomfortable about something that matters. and then showing up for the next steps you're never gonna see the whole path laid out ahead of you. You might be trailblazing, you might be going through the woods with a machete, but the next step is all you need to know if you're listening and being brave. Just to take that next step. That's all you actually need, and the rest will take care of itself. And I. It's so hard to trust that when you're in it, but you are the one that knows best. you're the only one who actually. Knows what you need on a cellular level. you're born with all of the intelligence you'll ever need you have an entire universe inside of you. And when we actually start listening to that, it's one of the most terrifying things. Like, I can't even tell you how many times I felt like I'm just gonna vomit through this whole experience because I'm so nervous, because I'm so overwhelmed ultimately, it doesn't matter I'm literally betting my life on this, you know? That's so important for everybody to focus on. Their, their own body, their own intuition, their own power within them. I wanna thank you for coming on today and taking this time to chat with us and share your wisdom, your beautiful wisdom for anyone who's listening if they wanna be able to ask you questions or get to know you a little deeper, where are they able to find you yeah, so my website is lauren meadow suite.com. I am Lauren Meadow suite on YouTube, and that's where you can find seasons one and two of the cancer series and my experience with the Black Sal, and then all of the beauty and ugliness and transformation. Thank you all for being here with us today. If you would like to further discuss this topic, or if you're ready to begin a healing journey of your own, I am here for you through the link in our show notes or through Instagram at live. Your legend, love and gratitude till Tuesday.