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Business Blasphemy
Sarah Khan, Chief Ease Officer, is calling B.S. on the hustle-focused status quo of online entrepreneurship and getting real about what it takes to grow a business that doesn't become a statistic. In each episode, Sarah helps navigate the rampant B.S. that permeates business strategy, marketing, operations, and mindset that has business owners hustling and pivoting themselves into burnout. She cuts through the noise and gives you guidance on how to view the status quo with a more discerning eye. If you're ready for success without the B.S., buckle up for hard truths, fun rants, terrible puns and (more than) the occasional curse word.
Business Blasphemy
EP81: How Being True to Yourself Drives Professional Growth with Danielle D Fisher
Can staying true to who you are revolutionize your career and personal life?
Join us for an inspiring conversation with Danielle D. Fisher, the visionary CEO behind Creations by Jimmy's Daughter and the Floral Boss Collective. Danielle takes us through her journey from launching a thriving faux floral business to building a supportive community for floral artists. We dive deep into why authenticity matters and how finding like-minded individuals can spark meaningful relationships, in contrast to the often draining experience of superficial networking.
Danielle opens up about the challenges of being a minority in professional spaces, offering validation and inspiration for those overcoming societal barriers to pursue their true passions. We discuss the hurdles women of color face in leadership roles, including internal conflicts and limiting beliefs, and the vital role therapy plays in overcoming these challenges. Reflecting on societal expectations and the comparison traps of social media, we underscore the power of self-belief and embracing your unique value.
Tune in for a conversation rich with insights on authenticity, resilience, and the transformative impact of genuine connections -- especially the one with yourself.
Guest Bio:
Danielle Fisher is the CEO of Creations by Jimmy's Daughter and the fierce coach of The Floral Boss Collective. Turning her passion for faux floral arrangements into a thriving business, Danielle's designs are statements that elevate life, space, and soul. Known for her impeccable craftsmanship and keen eye for design, she has established herself as the go-to faux floral artisan. Danielle’s journey began in 2018, driven by a desire to offer high-quality, luxurious faux florals. Her commitment to excellence and personal client connections have fueled her success. Recognizing the need for greater support among floral artists, she founded The Floral Boss Collective, a vibrant community empowering floral artists, especially Black women business owners, to elevate their skills and businesses.
One of her proudest achievements is the upcoming Artisan Elevator: Branding & Marketing Mastermind, an exclusive event aimed at helping women entrepreneurs enhance their branding and content strategies in a luxurious, high-end setting.
Connect with Danielle:
FB: @danielledfisher and @creationsbyjimmysdaughter
IG: @iamdaniellefisher
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Welcome to the Business Blasphemy Podcast, where we question the sacred truths of the online business space and the reverence with which they're held. I'm your host, sarah Khan speaker, strategic consultant and BS busting badass. Join me each week as we challenge the norms, trends and overall bullshit status quo of entrepreneurship to uncover what it really takes to build the business that you want to build in a way that honors you, your life and your vision for what's possible, and maybe piss off a few gurus along the way. So if you're ready to commit business blasphemy, let's do it. Hello, hello blasphemers, welcome back. I have with me Danielle Fisher.
Speaker 1:We're going to have the best conversations, danielle and I we met a little while ago and we've been like best friends ever since. Let me introduce her. Danielle Fisher is the CEO of Creations by Jimmy's Daughter and the fierce coach of the Floral Boss Collective, turning her passion for faux floral arrangements into a thriving business. Danielle's designs are statements that elevate life, space and soul. I love that. Known for her impeccable craftsmanship and keen eye for design, she established herself as the go-to faux floral artisan. Her journey began in 2018, driven by a desire to offer high-quality, luxurious faux florals, and her commitment to excellence and personal client connections have fueled her success. Recognizing the need for greater support among floral artists, she founded the Floral Boss Collective, a vibrant community empowering floral artists, especially Black women business owners, to elevate their skills and businesses. Danielle's direct, humorous communication style reflects her dedication to authenticity and efficiency. Whether through her design work or coaching, she inspires and empowers women to own their space and success. Welcome to the podcast, danielle.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm so glad that you invited me. I am excited because we always have great conversations.
Speaker 1:Oh, we do, we do and I love. And I was talking to someone yesterday and it was it was one of those moments where she kind of said what I feel our relationship has been like, not surface level, like we immediately dove under the surface. We're like we have to just talk about actual stuff, and so that's why I'm excited about the conversation today, because we've never had a surface level conversation Right, and I think that surface level I hate it.
Speaker 2:Me neither. It's so boring. I am not a small talk person, I just it's irritating. To me it's like why it's a waste of time it really, really is Like.
Speaker 1:this is why I don't like networking communities and network groups, and events because I can't. The small talk is so it's actually more draining than having a genuine conversation.
Speaker 2:Just about to say that it is exhausting, because I feel like I have to put on this. I think part of it is just my personality, that I am I don't want to say guarded, but like I have to, I have to feel your energy that I want to share, how much I want to share with you.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying yeah.
Speaker 2:So with you it was easy because we just connected like right away. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I think, like recognizes, like right. Yeah, I think when you meet somebody that you know is also not a surface level conversation person, it just naturally feels easier. I'm very much the same. I've spent like I've always struggled with actually not immediately diving in and being like let's talk about our past and, you know, let's talk about our wildest imaginational dreams, and my experience has been, for the most part, rejection, guardedness, like oh, she's a little too intense or she's too much or whatever, and so, instead of being guarded, I just don't go meet people. It's probably an extreme thing. When you meet somebody that you immediately know is like you, it just it feels so natural and it feels really comfortable. And yeah, I think a lot of that is also just it's's kind of like in in business you, you don't feel like you have to try too hard because you're doing something that that feels natural. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and there's no ulterior motive. So like for me, if I feel like there is, then I'm holding a whole lot back. I'm going to give you all of the things because I feel like I'm giving you a piece of me and. I'm not going to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, that's the perfect analogy. Yeah, like connection for the sake of actual connection versus connection to the agenda. Yeah Right, it's hard enough to make friends as a grown up.
Speaker 2:I know. So I mean, I've always come up where I've been called to be so many times, even in my professional career, because I'm just the type that I observe, I'm very reserved until I get to know you. You know, because I'm going to walk around and just I'm going to sit there. So like if I go to a party and I'm by myself, networking by myself, not good, because I will go and find a corner, yeah, I'll just watch, that's me. And then if I feel your energy, then I will go and talk to you. But if I'm not feeling you, then I'm not going to talk to you. I just, it's just a thing, yeah, yeah. So people always took that as that I was being snooty standoffish, unapproachable RBF yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do have an RBF face. Other people have a problem with it. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 1:I think everybody has it to some degree. I don't think. I mean, when's the last time you saw somebody who was just sitting there with, like you know, a weird cheesy smile plaster on their face? Like everybody has this weird sort of resting face, but nobody ever calls a man's face a resting bee face, right, true? Oh, my God, that's a whole rabbit hole we can go down. Yes, it is All right. Tell me a little bit, because you are the first creative creative that I've had on the show and I love this because it's such a departure from the operations space, which is where I've operated for a very long time. So tell me how you serve your clients, like what you do with your business, and why you were called to do it.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh. So I started creating. I've always been a creative, I just didn't know that that's what it was called. Right, I used to make things. My mom and I used to make stuff, and we would sell these tissue boxes for my college savings account. I mean, I was saving for college since I was little right, and so it's just a natural thing for me. I didn't think it was a big deal. And then, after I had my kids, when they were little, I wanted Christmas through kids' eyes is just amazing to me, and so I wanted Christmas through kids' eyes is just amazing to me. And so I wanted to give them this great, beautiful Christmas. And I would go to the store and I'm like I don't like these things, like I don't like these wreaths, I don't like you know, I'm like I can do this. So that's what I started doing, and then over the years, I sold a few of them then.
Speaker 2:So then, several years later, I ended up separating and my kids and I moved to an apartment and I just didn't have the space or the time. They were like going into middle school and then high school and they were very active in school, and so I was constantly the Uber. It was just crazy, so I stopped. Then, when they went to college, I got to this point where I'm like, okay, what do I do now? And I'm like I'm bored. So my daughter was like, mom, why don't you start doing your wreaths again? And I'm like, okay, and the industry had changed so much from when I had started. I actually sold a few to some friends. So I'm like, okay. And then my daughter and my girlfriend were like you really should just start your business. And I'm like what? No, really, you should just start a business. And I had tried other. I knew I always wanted to do something else on the side of my career, but I just didn't know what that was. And I did a few MLMs, but I still I hated them because I always felt like I was still working for somebody else. I don't like somebody telling me what to do or what I need to do, and I went into so much debt for them and still wasn't making any money. So in 2018, I'm like, okay. That's when I learned about Etsy because I didn't know what the heck Etsy was and learned about this whole new platform, got on Facebook, all this stuff, and so I went ahead and got my LLC in 2018 and launched my business that spring at an event.
Speaker 2:It started from there and I swore up and down, sarah, that I was not going to coach. I'm like I don't want to coach, I just want to make. I don't want to teach, and I'd been a teacher before in college, but that was with legal stuff, and so it was different. I'm like I don't want to do this, like I was in coaching groups, but as my experience in those groups showed me that somebody needed to do something because I'm looking at these were white coaches. They were very successful in the industry, and one in particular has like a cult following it's I was like, oh my God, these women like what is this?
Speaker 2:I can't stand that. I love my celebrities, I have my celebrity crushes, but if I were to see them, I'm not going to be like oh my God, that's not me. Yeah, that's not me. Yeah, cause I'm like y'all put your pants on, just like I do, you know. In any case, it just kept bothering me and I'm looking and watching the comments from other black women designers and I'm not seeing them in this space Like I'm seeing the white designers Right, like something is just. I could feel it in my gut like something is not jiving for me right now, and I'm a very independent. I enjoy being by myself, I like my own company. So I do not, absolutely do not, do drama. And so there was a lot of drama in this industry, just like any, you know. And so I just I could not, I couldn't get involved in all of that. And so I'm in this industry, just like any, you know, and so I just I could not, I couldn't get involved in all of that. And so I'm in this one particular coaching group and in this industry most of them will do one for creative I mean one like teaching you design and another they'll have another group for business. They're not going to combine them right. I've been in both.
Speaker 2:In the creative group, I started getting this feeling, sarah, and I was just like I think I'm the only Black person here, and I started noticing and feeling I'm like, is it just me? Like what is going on? Like I'm feeling like you are ignoring me or you don't think I'm as good as everybody else? She would critique me more. You don't think I'm as good as everybody else? She would critique me more.
Speaker 2:We did this they call it round robin where you have a day where designers you can watch different designers we just go in a row like on our platforms. So I signed up to do it and she was like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited, danielle, and I'm sitting here like why I've been going live on my own page for a while but apparently you don't follow me. Ooh yeah, she followed everybody else but me, never commented on my life, nothing ever, right. But I knew she was following other people. So, long story short, I'm making a long story, so I felt like I've got to get out this group, cause I don't like the feeling that I'm. I don't feel good. I'm feeling like you don't think I'm as good, right, and I'm looking around Facebook, which is primarily the place where a lot of wreath makers are, because pretty much our, our customers tend to be women who are roughly 40 and up. So you know, facebook is a platform for those of us of a certain age. So I mean, tiktok wasn't out then, and so, as time went on, I'm like I've got to do this because I don't see any.
Speaker 2:There was one Black coach, one Black woman coach. We follow each other today. She is the most encouraging person. She just doesn't coach anymore. She branched her business out into other things. So I'm like this is crazy, because you're these women, these other black women. They are good and they're not getting the attention from these white coaches Like they should be. Like why are we just being overlooked? And like we're never going to be good enough, we're never going to make the money? I mean, these coaches that I'm talking about, they're millionaires. Why can't we? It was making me mad, you know, and so I started my coaching group.
Speaker 2:It started small, but I had, like people probably say it's still relatively small. But you know, in every coaching program you're going to have people that always come, and then you're going to have people that just pay and never show up and that used to bother me at first Cause I'm like why aren't they coming? Why aren't they? And it's just because I had to realize that I can't want it more than they do, and I feel okay with that. So I'm like that's fine, I'm going to be here for the ones that do come and they are still, two years later, faithfully come every week. And so they fueled it for me and as I went along, I thought we need to talk about business. So I would start talking about little things in business.
Speaker 2:But at the same time I didn't want to give too much away, you know, because I'm thinking I need to be like these other white coaches. I need to have a separate group because I work all the time. I couldn't do that. I thought I wanted to be an Etsy coach. That's where I was going for the last year.
Speaker 2:Things just weren't working. Now I have a relationship with God. That's how I run my business and something just was not sitting right. I'm like I can do hard things, but something about this is just abnormally hard. A few months ago, actually, I'm like this is I was miserable and you and I talked about this. I realized that's not what I need to be doing, that's not the way that I'm supposed to be going, that's not the path. He's telling me to go right and I went left.
Speaker 2:But it was because I thought that that was the natural next thing and I'm like somebody needs to do this. Somebody needs to show these women, these women of color, that we can be at the same level, if not higher, than these other people. Don't believe the hype, don't believe what they are telling you and making you feel, because I know I'm not the only one that feels like this. I can't be. So my group members, they encouraged me, you know. They're like, yes, we need this, and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:But after talking to my coach, I'm like, look, I'm not leaving designing, ok, this is my passion, this is what I'm always going to create, because this is my piece. This is what gives me woosah, you know. And so what I've done is now I changed the name from Design with Danielle to the Floral Boss Collective, because I also coach business, but not just Etsy. I coach how to improve, you know, elevate your platforms. I don't care what the platform is, the things that I'm teaching, the branding, the marketing, all of that kind of stuff is still the same. I don't have to know the platform itself intricately, because there are just some things that are universal right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, and so that's what I teach them and can I just brag a second about. So I am so excited because other opportunities have opened up for me and those are the things that I share with them and I feel like it's because I'm finally on the path that I'm supposed to be on. So one of my members she does fake bakes. Have you ever seen those? They look like they're food, they look like pies, they look like whatever, but they're made, they're sewn. She makes the most beautiful things. So she's had tons of orders Like this is her big, big time of year, you know, with Halloween, with candy and Thanksgiving and Christmas, all that kind of stuff. So she's been doing having a lot of orders. But she just got asked to share her products for a white wreath makers event for some of the designers to use. I'm like, boom, get your shit out there and get your name out there, because everybody's money's green, get it out there. So I'm so proud of her and she's so excited. And then another she designs these angels right.
Speaker 2:So we're not all just, we don't all just make reason centerpieces. You know some of us do other things. But she has, she's getting ready to contract with a Hispanic seller. That is almost like Etsy, almost, but they really focus on celebrating the artist. So they tell you who she is, the bio picture, everything of who is designing this particular piece, but they get them from her wholesale and they sell them. I'm like girl, I am so like that's what I'm talking about, thinking outside the box, and, as you can see, I get animated because I get.
Speaker 1:I'm excited, you know if they make more money than me have at it, because then I've done my job. Yeah, oh, okay. Can I just say like there is so much of this story that resonates that is relatable. I mean, this might end up being a five hour podcast show, I know.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I know.
Speaker 1:No, no, this is I mean, there's so much to unpack here, right Like I was taking notes as you were talking and I think, first of all for me listening to you tell your story and you actually told me your villain origin story too, which is fantastic because that comes up right, yeah, but there was so much validation for me personally in what you were saying and I'm sure other people will feel that as well, because for a long time I was the token brown girl in every group, right and it's. I've often it's it's funny like I've often applied not applied, but like, well, I guess, applied to be in networking groups. There's a local black women's business chamber here and I applied to be a part of it and was like, well, you're not a Black woman, so sorry you can't be in it and I'm like well, okay, like I'm in the middle right, like I got nowhere to go, and so it's always been hard for me to find a community.
Speaker 1:So I always end up in the default communities right, where I end up being the only woman of color, and there has always been that feeling of is the coach pandering to me? How come the coach focuses, like there you can and, like you said, you can see that they are commenting on everybody else's stuff, they are promoting everybody else's stuff, they're sharing opportunities with everybody else. But even though they're telling me you're a top student, you're the best in the group, why am I not being offered opportunities? Why am I not being given these seats at the table? Like you said, you know, and there's for a long time been an undercurrent of messaging to me of don't rock the boat. You should be grateful we're giving you this much space. Yep, yeah, boat, you should be grateful we're giving you this much space, yep, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so it's like, even though instinctually, instinctively, I knew something else was going on, I gaslit myself most of my life, you know saying no, no, no, this has nothing to do with the color of your skin. Don't play that card. It's okay, like and because you. You don't want to believe it, but the reality is. It's the reality a lot, a lot more often than I think we talk about. I think I've talked about it on the show before.
Speaker 1:I remember I was working for one of the big four firms. I used to work for two of the big four professional services firms when I was in the UK and I applied for a senior management role. And I remember going for lunch with one of the ladies who worked in IT. We got along really well, so we went for lunch. And I remember going for lunch with one of the ladies who worked in IT. We got along really well, so we went for lunch and I was telling her I'm going to apply for the senior manager role. I'm very excited. And she goes oh no, don't do that. I was like why she goes? Well, I'm going to tell you straight They'll never hire you. And I was like what do you mean? She goes well, but that was the first time someone like told me to my face it's going to impact your career progression and so like.
Speaker 1:There's so much that just is in your story that I think so many people relate to, and this idea of building tables because we're tired of scraps, we're tired of being you know. Please, sir, can I have some more Right? And I mean, this is a loaded question and I'm going to say it and people are probably like, well, it's obvious. So my experience, when.
Speaker 1:I started in the online space was that most of the brown women, the South Asian women, they were in more of a creative economy versus like a business consulting economy, and I found it fascinating just how many women of color are creative right and I don't know. I've often wondered like is it intentional, does it feel safe or do they like? Why is it that more of us are not in like what you're doing right now Of I'm actually I'm coaching and consulting to grow your business, versus let's just work on the creativity side?
Speaker 2:I think I think I'm understanding your question. I think for let me speak for Black women I know this is what we've always done. I think creativity is just in our blood, in our genes, because this is what we've always had to do and we're just good at it because that's the talent that God gave us in our genes, you know. I mean hell, we were building pyramids, you know, and it's always been a hobby. Creatives have always been which leads to another conversation, but let me just say it's a term crafters that I actually hate, really, because we are looked down as just hobbyists oh, you make nice little, pretty thing, that kind of thing. But I think it's a way that we were able to find peace and joy in being creative and making things that were pretty, that looked good, you know, in all kinds of things baskets, whatever you know. But it was also a way for us to make money.
Speaker 2:Those were the types of businesses that we could have, that we were allowed to have as women, you know, particularly in this country, because we were never thought of as being too smart. When we are brilliant, it's like, you know. You hear that I don't want to say a double negative, but not only are we women, but we are women of color, so you can look at it in this country, as two strikes against you already, right? So even though we've come a long way, as we like to say, the pushback is still there and when, in fact, black women are the leading entrepreneurial group, but I just feel like it is, we're still in that area of as far as business is concerned, that we're not going, we're not expected to do well.
Speaker 1:And I was asking because I was thinking about the comment you made earlier about. You know, I didn't want to be a coach and I remember myself feeling the same way when I started. And when you think about, and then I mean then when I started supporting businesses and I started, you know, doing the operations support for women businesses and I saw how many women of color were coming from corporate spaces and traditional jobs. But shying away from stepping into that experience and that genius and saying I can help you build a business because I've been like, I worked in corporate for 20 years and I came in and decided all I can do is be a service provider, I could never lead women in business and it has taken years of my own personal growth to get to the point and be able to say, hell, no, I can lead. Yes, you know why that is. Yeah, no, I do, I do, and I just I wanted to hear your perspective on that because I see a lot of Brown women who have worked in corporate careers and whatnot who immediately default to well, I can bake cakes really nicely. So that's what I'm going to do and I don't want this to sound like I'm poo-pooing on that, because there are women who have made an absolute killing doing that. They enjoy it, they love it.
Speaker 1:It just always feels a little bit. It feels a little bit prickly for me when women of color. Their reflex is to shy away from leadership, even if they come to it eventually. It's that initial sort of knee-jerk response of I don't know if I and yet you don't see that I'm going to say a thing and it's going to sound how it sounds. But you don't see white women doing that. You definitely don't see men doing that. We don't see white women doing that of like I don't know if I have enough experience. Meanwhile they've never had a job, they've been stay at home their entire, you know. But they're out here coaching people how to build businesses.
Speaker 2:But they're out here coaching people how to build businesses. Well, you know, there's a whole lot in that. There is, let me just say. But let me just say this I think for us, a lot of that is those limiting beliefs that we have, that we've grown up with Right. But for, in the Black community, getting that help to heal that limiting belief is not that acceptable. It's starting to get there. We've got a long way to go for that.
Speaker 2:But now I'm a person that I will tell anybody you need to go to therapy, you need to go to therapy. Therapy is wonderful. You need to. You know, I have been in therapy for years, years, years, years, and not just about my business. I've been in therapy for years just based on my life and my. I'm a survivor of narcissistic abuse in my marriage and so I've had to go to therapy to get those limiting beliefs, and that has taken years. I'm still in therapy, right.
Speaker 2:So I think that number one, that's a lot of it why we shy away from leadership positions because we don't think that we are qualified to do it. Listen, when I went to my first Unmastermind with Fire Savvy, that's exactly how I felt. I did not feel like I was worthy to be in this space with these other women Like. These women are beasts. Like what am I doing here? And Donna had to get in my face and tell me you wouldn't be here if I didn't think you would deserve to be here. You would not. So I had to start learning how to believe. And don't you cry. I had to start learning how to believe.
Speaker 1:And don't you cry.
Speaker 2:I had to start working on myself, and I think that's what a lot of women have to do, but they also need somebody who looks like them, to encourage and inspire them to believe in themselves. You know, hearing it from other people is not always the greatest thing, cause I'm like you, bullshitting me.
Speaker 1:You know that's what I was going to say, and I think yeah, cause I've had the same experience. And so, for listeners who don't know, we're talking about Donna St Louis and Chanel Evans, who are so. Danielle and I met in a in a coaching program by FIRE Savvy. Donna and Chanel are the coaches, and Donna did the same thing to me. She got in my face. But it is hard to hear someone reflecting back your greatness when your entire life has been either you're not great or, oh yeah, you're wonderful.
Speaker 1:I don't know, and it's hard to internalize that belief. It has never been a consistent or genuine message. And you see this in like I've had people who have had far worse, like people close to me who've had far worse experiences with racism and all of it. I'll use my own husband as an example. He grew up in the UK where it's abs I'll, I'll, I'll use my own, my own husband, as an example. He grew up in the UK where it's abs, I mean, it's, it's trash in the UK.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to say, and he had a very, very challenging time and that is often his default of like they want something from me, that's the only reason they're being nice to you, versus you know, can we actually believe that maybe I do have potential, or you have potential or you're capable? No, no, no, no, no. There's an agenda, there's always an agenda. Nobody could ever possibly, you know, and and that's how. That's the limiting belief. I think a lot of us yeah, it's true, more melanated humans just live with consistently and we need like 50 times the evidence before we actually crack and believe it.
Speaker 2:And women in particular. We're told growing up it's not polite to brag. You shouldn't be bragging about yourself and you shouldn't. You know you don't boast. You need to be humble.
Speaker 2:Look, I can be humble. I can be humble, but I also believe I know I'm good at what I do. You know, I know that my designs can compete against anybody and I'm good with that. You know I'm. You can't tell me any different and it took me a while to get there.
Speaker 2:But it's a matter of not falling into that comparison trap, which is another reason why I really try to stay to myself, because social media can just suck you in, like you know, and I don't want to get caught up in their drama. I don't want to get caught up in what they're doing. The one thing that I love about being an artist because we are artisans the one thing that I love about that is we can have the same recipe and like, of course, when I'm teaching my group, I'm showing them how I make things right, but I guarantee you none of their stuff looks like mine. So to them, it's a recipe, but you still got to put your own spin on it, which is how it's supposed to be. Like, there's no way anybody I can barely make my own repeat the same thing of my own design.
Speaker 2:I have made well over 500 original designs and have not repeated them. That's amazing to me and I have to remind myself of that. My daughter reminds me all the time, you know, because there are times, of course, when I give down. I'm not like on all the time. We're human, it happens, right. So my daughter reminds me all the time. She was like mom you have made and I'm like you're right. I just think that the women that are out there and I don't think that leadership is for everyone it's okay, we want it for them and we might be able to see it in them, but some people are just not comfortable with that and we have to be OK with that and just and go with the people who are ready to step into that leadership position. Step into that. Ok, I know there's more and I want that.
Speaker 1:And I love what you said about feeling uncomfortable, you know, because we were told not to brag. But it's not bragging when it's facts Exactly Right, right. It's not bragging when it's facts, you know that's right. Right, it's not bragging when it's facts, you know that's a whole post right there right.
Speaker 1:That's going to become a post in a minute. Yes, what would you like? What's the smallest piece or the like, the smallest piece of advice, the most sort of meaningful nugget you can think of to share with a woman who's maybe listening right now. They're maybe thinking about starting a business. To share with a woman who's maybe listening right now. They're maybe thinking about starting a business. They're in the early stages of business. What piece of advice would you give them to get started, to really make the impact they want to make?
Speaker 2:If they haven't started already. I just feel like you're going to regret it.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I think if you, I'd rather live with me trying and it not working than to think the rest of my life what I could have been or what I could have done Right. And so I think that do the research, and I think most states like I tell women and people in I'm in Virginia, so a lot of people. There's small business organizations through the state. They are so nice and they want to help you. So do that. Go, go, do the thing. Stop procrastinating and just do it. Just step out there and at the very least, it'll give you the information to know do I really want to do this? I mean, this is not.
Speaker 2:We both know that entrepreneurship is not easy. It's also can be very lonely, and even though I'm not a group person, one of the things that I think is so important is community. You've got to find somebody who has is like-minded, hopefully smarter than you. You never want to be the smartest person in the room Nope, never. And understand that growth should be a continual process. You're always going to want to find the next smartest person. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I hope that we'll get somebody moving and there's space. A lot of people think that whatever industry they're in is saturated. It's not. No, there's a billion people in this world and I promise you that they don't know some things. I have to remind myself of that too, that there are people that don't know the things that I know, and I have to share that even as minute, as I think it is yeah.
Speaker 1:I still need to share that. So it's really stepping into that, the thing that you want to do. It's time to do it. Yeah, my favorite analogy is the one of the bread aisle at the grocery store. Right, why are there so many different varieties of bread? Because there's a bread for everybody. Go be the bread.
Speaker 2:Go be the bread. That's a great analogy. Yes, yeah, this conversation has just been.
Speaker 1:I know girl we could go on and on and on.
Speaker 1:I mean and this is what I mean when I'm talking about we're not doing surface level, we're not doing you know, we're talking about the real, real stuff. So I would love to have you come back and we should, and we should have like. I think I want to have like a really deep, ranty episode one day. Let's just like bear it all, and I'm going to have a bunch of people on to do it, because I think it would be so fun and so cathartic and you're definitely coming back. For now, can you please tell everybody who's listening where they can find you and anything else, anything special you want to share.
Speaker 2:Yes, I am on Facebook, I am on Instagram, I am on Pinterest I'm everywhere, right. But on Facebook my business page is Creations by Jimmy's Daughter Very easy to find the only one out there. And I'm also Danielle D Fisher, cause there's a lot of us. Okay, there's a lot of Danielle Fishers, believe it or not, but there's a lot of Sarah cons too which is really annoying.
Speaker 2:It is annoying, but there's only one, danielle D Fisher, right here, and I'm easy to find because of my hair, but anyway, and then if you really want to have a conversation with me, we can chat it up or whatever. Meetwithdanielleorg is the easiest way to get in contact with me.
Speaker 1:Fantastic. I will make sure those links all go in the show notes. Thank you so much for your time today, my friend, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you for the invitation. I appreciate it. It was fun.
Speaker 1:It was a great conversation and it's just another reminder that you can have success without the BS. I will talk to you next week. That's it for this week. Thanks for listening to the Business Blasphemy Podcast. We'll be back next week with a new episode, but in the meantime, help a sister out by subscribing and if you're feeling extra sassy rating this podcast and don't forget to share the podcast with others Head over to businessblasphemypodcastcom to connect with us and learn more. Thanks for listening and remember you can have success without the BS.