Interbeing
Interbeing is a podcast by MSB exploring what it means to lead, coach, and live in a deeply interconnected world. Hosted by Naomi Ward and Matt Hall, the show brings together educators, coaches, and thought leaders to reflect on the questions shaping international schools and beyond.
In this new season we return to the heart of our work: coaching as a way of being. Together we explore how presence, curiosity, and care can shift not just our conversations, but our cultures. Inspired by Thich Nhat Hanh’s teaching on “interbeing,” we recognise that nothing exists in isolation — every choice, every relationship, every pause matters.
Expect honest dialogue, stories from the field, and a commitment to learning in public. Not as answers, but as invitations to think differently about leadership, community, and the future of education.
You can find out more about Futures-Focused Leadership Coaching for International Schools and MSB at www.makingstuffbetter.com
Interbeing
Ep7 Michael Cahill - Managing Endings
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Welcome to the Principled podcast.
In this episode, Matt Hall and Gill Kelly of Making Stuff Better talk to author Michael Cahill from Coaching Constellations about how to best manage the exit process.
They discuss various topics based around the theme of belonging, including: why managing endings is crucial, not just to those directly involved, but also to those remaining who may get a glimpse of their own future; how a sense of belonging can be fostered across multiple organisations and industries; and why an employee's notice period needn't warrant their exclusion from important strategic decision making.
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To get in touch with Michael, find him online here:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelcahill1/
Coaching Constellations: https://coachingconstellations.com/about/
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To get in touch, please find us online here:
Website: https://makingstuffbetter.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/makingstuffbetterltd/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Makstubet/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/makingstuffbetter/?hl=en
Twitter: https://twitter.com/stuff_better?lang=en
Additional links to follow:
Matt Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-hall-msb/
Gill Kelly: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gillkelly/
Naomi Ward: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-ward-098a1535/
