Deglazed - Chelsea Rhodes Official Beer Chick Part-1
Apr 23, 2024Season 3Episode 5
Scott Morgan,Luis Olivas
WE ARE IN THE KEYS FOR THIS PODCAST! OUR GOOD FRIEND CHELSEA RHODES WAS OUT ON VACATION AND WE HAD A BALST HAVING SOME BLOODYS IN THE MORNING! NOW LET AI TAKE TOY AWAY...... [OH YEAH...CHECK OUT CHELSEA'S PODCAST 'BODY BY BEER" you just might learn something and have fun doing it![]
Have you ever caught the elusive green flash at sunset, or wondered about the mysteries beyond our sandy shores? Let's set sail together as we navigate through tales of coastal enchantment and the peculiar charm of Venice-like boat communities, with stories that are sure to paint your imagination with the vibrant hues of ocean life. Our latest episode features a guest who brings the sea's serenity to your ears, coupled with a healthy dose of laughter as we marvel in light-hearted existential musings.
Now, imagine the clinking of glasses in a bustling Denver brewery, our guest whisks us away to the spirited arenas of craft beer sharing the journey from places like Four Noses and Upslope Brewing to consulting and podcasting about beer for a living! We pull back the curtain on the brewery's operational intricacies.
WE ARE IN THE KEYS FOR THIS PODCAST! OUR GOOD FRIEND CHELSEA RHODES WAS OUT ON VACATION AND WE HAD A BALST HAVING SOME BLOODYS IN THE MORNING! NOW LET AI TAKE TOY AWAY...... [OH YEAH...CHECK OUT CHELSEA'S PODCAST 'BODY BY BEER" you just might learn something and have fun doing it![]
Have you ever caught the elusive green flash at sunset, or wondered about the mysteries beyond our sandy shores? Let's set sail together as we navigate through tales of coastal enchantment and the peculiar charm of Venice-like boat communities, with stories that are sure to paint your imagination with the vibrant hues of ocean life. Our latest episode features a guest who brings the sea's serenity to your ears, coupled with a healthy dose of laughter as we marvel in light-hearted existential musings.
Now, imagine the clinking of glasses in a bustling Denver brewery, our guest whisks us away to the spirited arenas of craft beer sharing the journey from places like Four Noses and Upslope Brewing to consulting and podcasting about beer for a living! We pull back the curtain on the brewery's operational intricacies.
Speaker 1:
Declays. It's hard to find the ocean here. It really is. Yeah, it's tough. I've been Googling it and trying to find it on my maps.
Speaker 2:
How do I get to the ocean? I finally looked up once and saw it, but I didn't know if it was the ocean or not.
Speaker 1:
It was just a lot of fucking water, just a lot of water, just a lot of water. Last night, the sunset was perfect where it was, like the horizon disappeared, like the colors were just the same. It was really cool. Are you guys facing the Gulf? Are you west facing? Yes, well, we're actually not right on the ocean. We have an Airbnb. We have like the little what do they call?
Speaker 2:
them Like a cottage Casita.
Speaker 1:
No, it's the little water runways that they have where all the boats are. Oh, to get to the houses.
Speaker 2:
Oh, I got you, yeah, yeah yeah, Something like you see in Venice or whatever like those kind of things. Everybody's got their own slip and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so we're not directly on the ocean, but we're half a mile from what is it, sombrero? It's like an inlet. Yeah, yep, okay.
Speaker 2:
Can you guys go somewhere where you can see the ocean, westerly facing, facing for sunset? Have you done that one?
Speaker 1:
yet.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, have you seen the little green dot? No, okay, so check this out. We used to do this. I lived in Carmel, like by the sea right, and I lived one block off on San Antonio in this really cool house and every night everybody kind of from the neighborhood would go down to I think it was called scenic and we would all like watch the sun go down, okay, okay. And if you watch it go over the ocean and as it disappears over the ocean, you blink or look away real quick and look back and you'll see this green dot and what it is. It's the sun burning through the top layer of, like the ocean, the light is.
Speaker 2:
Oh and so you're seeing the last little bit actually burning through water and you see that little green dot as it disappears wow, it's really. It's really kind of cool, like it's like okay it kind of kills anybody who's a flat earther, you know I mean in theory they could have killed themselves.
Speaker 1:
They just kept going, just keep on going.
Speaker 2:
You go right off the edge. I'm not gonna fall, but somehow they haven't done it. Zeus will shoot you with a lightning bolt. Somehow they haven't. In theory they're going to. They just kept going. They just keep on going. You go right off the edge. I'm not going to fall, but somehow they haven't done it. Zeus will shoot you with a lightning bolt.
Speaker 1:
Somehow they haven't fallen yet.
Speaker 2:
I don't get it. It's so weird. Well, that's because they haven't figured out. It's like a video game.
Speaker 1:
You just kind of start again.
Speaker 2:
You just keep bouncing into the wall. Scott, you're already reloaded. Why are you just running in?
Speaker 3:
circles. That's what they believe. We're just running in circles.
Speaker 2:
That's pretty much it.
Speaker 2:
That's actually the theory of if this is already an AI simulation. I heard fuck, who was it? Elon Musk talked about it. He's like maybe that's why you can't I think he's the one that said it Maybe that's why you can't go past. We can't go past mock, whatever. Okay, we can't go past mock whatever. Okay, Because think about in a video game, if you're playing a level, you only need that level, maybe the next one loading, you don't need 15 levels away. And if you're doing mock 100 or whatever light speed, you go past it and the program runs out.
Speaker 1:
There's just nothing there.
Speaker 2:
So that's why we're restricted in these parameters, if this all is AI.
Speaker 3:
So I'm not buying a.
Speaker 2:
BMW Don't buy a BMW, not a Mach 3. Something faster, something faster than a Mach 3. Yeah, you got to outrun the Matrix, brother.
Speaker 1:
I don't know if that's. Is that what you want? You just want to hit the.
Speaker 2:
No, not really, I just Run into that wall.
Speaker 3:
See what happens.
Speaker 2:
I want to take that blue pill, eat the steak dinner. Yeah, blue pill, eat the steak dinner. Have a bunch of fucking money. I'm good, I don't want the battle.
Speaker 1:
Exactly.
Speaker 2:
It might be coming, who knows? But for right now I'm enjoying the steak dinner.
Speaker 1:
Heck yeah, that's what it's all about.
Speaker 2:
Fala beans. You think that's air you're breathing.
Speaker 3:
I love that movie.
Speaker 1:
So when did you move down to Florida?
Speaker 2:
2020?, no 2021. So when did you move?
Speaker 1:
down to florida uh 2020 no 2021, 2020. That makes sense. I was like I know I saw you over covid yeah, yeah, because you made the best mask joke to kevin and it like it's one of those things that replays in my mind like every couple weeks, what I, what I said, I remembered it, yeah because kevin's got a big old beard and you're like, oh, you look like my swimsuit teacher doing yoga or something. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:
I remember too, he came walking up and it was kind of like he had so much of a beard that it looked like the front of a girl's bathing suit with bush everywhere.
Speaker 3:
So it was just one of those things.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it was 70s Bush and I said your face looks like my sailing instructor's sitting Indian style in the early 80s.
Speaker 1:
That was funny. It was so funny and I feel like we all looked and we're like, yeah, kind of does Pretty damn right, nice Bush. It reminded me of something.
Speaker 2:
It's so funny what you remember too. Her name was Tracy and I remember I thought I was seeing something for my first time ever. I didn't realize I was just seeing hair. I thought I was seeing everything.
Speaker 1:
I didn't even realize I was a real person. I thought you were just making a story up for me, absolutely not no, no, no.
Speaker 2:
When I was a kid I used to say all the time like I was, like I grew up in sailing classes and then ended up racing sailboats and shit. Right, it was a lot of fun. And uh, she was like one of my original instructors and she was cool as fuck. So that was during the time of um Top Gun, when the movie Top Gun came out. Her husband was a pilot at Top Gun. He got to fly for the movie.
Speaker 1:
Oh shit, that's super cool. Yeah, he was super cool.
Speaker 2:
So she I mean you got to figure a fighter pilot's wife. She was cool as hell. She like taught sailing, you know, and like so she was fun. She let us like get away with murder and taught us like you know, she was just cool.
Speaker 3:
I'm going to tell you right now all that, bush, you can't unring that bell Fair.
Speaker 2:
Once you see all that hair, you wonder what's next.
Speaker 3:
What else?
Speaker 2:
What else is down there? What else is there? What else is there? It's fair enough. You haven't given a clap yet and the pursuit begins. All that hair would give you the clap too.
Speaker 1:
That's what I thought you were going with. That's where I went. The clap. I was like you got to get rid of it, to get rid of that huh.
Speaker 2:
Sometimes you got to fight fire with fire. Bring your own clap. Start over that's what I say. Bring your own clap to the orgy and everything's fine. It's gotten me through life this far. So I moved down here at 21 to be closer to my mom, be closer to my sister and her family and stuff like that. I'm like the 18th person in my family to move or be down here or whatever you know. So our family's growing.
Speaker 1:
Oh cool.
Speaker 2:
My sister's been down here like 30 years, and her husband.
Speaker 1:
Did you grow up in Florida?
Speaker 2:
Not at all.
Speaker 1:
Where did you grow up? Sailing then?
Speaker 2:
Oh, San Diego.
Speaker 1:
Oh, okay, we were talking. So my dad is in eastern South Dakota, so it's all plains and flat and I was like you know, coming out here and anywhere that you can see far is like for him. It's like oh, now it's blue, you can see forever. And I was like, well for us, like we don't see forever anytime in Colorado, right, Unless you're going to Kansas, Like you kind of forget that there's something more than a couple miles in front of you.
Speaker 2:
Yep, you have to go all the way, like east of Aurora, yeah. And then there you see the curvature of the earth again.
Speaker 1:
Yep.
Speaker 2:
Like it's so big and open yeah.
Speaker 1:
And why I look that way. When you have the mountains, when you have the mountains, you just kind of only look west.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I was just talking about. You're never pretty out there. Look, there's hounds of the baskerville running across to kill me look at all this dead grass. It's so fun I know people who prefer that out there over, like mountains or trees and stuff like that, and they're like, well, because I can see trouble coming, I'm like, and then what? You just wait to die?
Speaker 3:
like where are you?
Speaker 2:
gonna go like at least you hide behind a tree or do something you know.
Speaker 1:
Also, if you're into the flatlands, stop living in one of the most expensive places in the US. That's just silly to me. Go save yourself and go move to Wyoming, and you could probably pay off your house with what you sold your house for.
Speaker 2:
That's a great point.
Speaker 1:
And have land and a mansion.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and a lake yeah.
Speaker 1:
If you're not into the mountains, why pay the price?
Speaker 2:
People are strange.
Speaker 1:
They've all probably been there for a while too people get stuck in their places.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I mean, that's a big thing. I'd move just to look for bigfoot fuck, yeah, see he wants. You want to know something funny, would you?
Speaker 1:
give him a hug, or would you like?
Speaker 2:
I tried to put him up in like box. He'd give him a dick punch.
Speaker 3:
He'd give him a little mushroom tap I know what you want, bigfoot, I know what you want, you know.
Speaker 2:
what's funny is that little campground resort I used to own in Northern California, the BFRO Bigfoot something group or whatever that hunt them. They used to come out and stay at our campground every year and then after we closed, they started staying over at this other place out there every year. I think they still go. And one of the RVs that shows up every year because a couple of the guys are from out here in Florida One of the RVs that shows up every year is like right by, like my house.
Speaker 1:
Really.
Speaker 2:
It's like a mile and a half from my house in this neighborhood. He's got a cool little house in this cool like old neighborhood and it's parked right beside.
Speaker 1:
Fucking small world. The fuck is that you know like isn't that crazy.
Speaker 2:
I mean, that's Northern California where we'd see him every summer.
Speaker 1:
Maybe you're Bigfoot.
Speaker 2:
I might be, I might be. He dresses up Size 10 and a half. What can I say?
Speaker 1:
You're tall enough for it, yeah 5'10".
Speaker 2:
It's good. I stand on my tiptoes everywhere I go.
Speaker 1:
Only on logs Only. That's actually why you can't see him.
Speaker 2:
You just can't see him above the tall grass. Bigfoot's a pygmy, he's just girthy. That's really funny. Oh, that's funny. Yeah, but I love it out here.
Speaker 3:
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2:
It's cool, and I met him. I only worked in a few restaurants. I worked for a year at one restaurant and a few months at a couple different ones. First, second restaurant I worked at out here I met him and we've been like buddies ever since.
Speaker 3:
cool you know, like since day one we've been nice you know, a lot of dick jokes, a lot of dick jokes.
Speaker 1:
You know, that's how bond starts.
Speaker 2:
It's very true, some stuff starts you start with a good docking like a good you know chinese finger puppet kind of thing, and then next thing you know, Friends for life. Friends for life. Stuck there long enough. You might as well be.
Speaker 1:
You learn a lot about each other when you're stuck together.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, if someone smacks you on the back, it's never going to change, right? Isn't that the way that goes? So let's put this in perspective, because we're like 100 hours in already.
Speaker 1:
We haven't even talked one thing about the industry or anything like that. We've been catching up, so I met you at one of the coolest breweries in the world appreciate that.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, four noses, yeah, yeah, it's a good one, right? So how long were you there and did you work at breweries before that?
Speaker 1:
did not work at breweries before that. Uh, I was there for almost four years right like three, four year span uh, minus the head brewer as the first employee. Um, and the only reason I got it is because I saw a sign. It was close to my house and I was trying to get out of the casinos and I was like, oh man, versus this 45 minute drive up to the casinos, this is like two minutes from my house. This is awesome. So I kept just badgering them on facebook and then you like I end up interviewing, meeting the whole family, because it it's a family run business, and we all like hit it off, we had a great time, and they're like it's cool, you don't have experience, we'll figure this all out. Like we've never done this either. Like we're just going to like rock through this and then, like a couple of years later, tommy's like yeah.
Speaker 2:
They were just playing, it cool yeah.
Speaker 1:
I was like all right, well, that works too.
Speaker 2:
Oh, how the times have changed with that place, oh yeah, well, and they opened the new one in Denver. Where'd they put that at?
Speaker 1:
It's on Dahlia Street. Okay, it's kind of I'm trying to think of the best. There's not like oodles near it. Do you know where Cohesion is? Is Cohesion open yet Semi over by the zoo North of the zoo?
Speaker 2:
Oh, okay, oh okay. So it's like downtown area.
Speaker 1:
It's Park Hill Okay.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, yeah there you go.
Speaker 1:
I was like there's something I can reference here, yeah, but like that whole area is like getting really dope restaurants and breweries in. They're really trying to schnazz it up.
Speaker 2:
How is the the brewery in Boulder going for them? Good?
Speaker 1:
That thing's like starting to ramp up, and I mean they're able to drop the beer in there, and so this new production facility is massive. It's really cool, and they said that the Denver location has been busier than Broomfield on a lot of dates, which is Was Broomfield still holding the records until then?
Speaker 2:
I mean?
Speaker 1:
yeah, I mean Broomfield's still holding the records of most places. Yeah, you've got to understand Of most places.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, you've got to understand. This place will do like 70 grand in a day in sales. I'm not exaggerating, right, that's a little high. That's not. That's like what's a normal day there.
Speaker 1:
I don't want to talk about their numbers.
Speaker 2:
So you did Four Noses for four years and then you went to. I remember seeing you at a brewery in Boulder right.
Speaker 1:
I did Upslope Upslope that's what it is Yep Worked at Upslope for. I didn't work there super long because then I ended up in like the tech space and started working with a tech startup in.
Speaker 2:
Boulder.
Speaker 1:
Okay, and so I was there. I think I was at Upslope for like eight months. Nothing too crazy, but helped revamp some of their processes, was able to cut like almost one and a half people per shift out of like leaning up and just being like will you please let me help out some of this stuff? You don't need this many people staffed and I gotta do like I felt like a fraction of what I wanted to like. If I was the manager, I was like I would have like rehauled so much stuff, but it wasn't that as bad. It's just I feel like when you've like come from this insanely high caliber that was kind of like one of the busiest breweries in denver to then come down to what is another like pretty busy brewery.
Speaker 2:
And it's a big name. It's a big name. You can get it in a lot of places out there.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, so it's not like it was run poorly by any means. It was just like oh man, we could really like lean this up a bit if you want to like sharpen the pencil.
Speaker 2:
So yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:
Like you don't know what. They have a really good retention rate of employees because they treat their employees great, but at the same time you can get stuck a little bit.
Speaker 2:
You definitely get stuck Also at a place like Four Noses. You've got to just be killing it on tips. We were crushing it.
Speaker 1:
That's why it was hard leaving the casino. I was making bank up at the casino.
Speaker 3:
How long were you doing a casino for?
Speaker 1:
I did the casinos for almost a decade.
Speaker 2:
You started in Deadwood.
Speaker 1:
Up in.
Speaker 2:
South Dakota that's where I'm from.
Speaker 1:
I've done restaurants, hotel dealt cards. I was a VIP rep up here in Blackhawk. You make good money and you're standing around playing games and you never work for two hours more at a time. Then you go take a break. You're only at a table for a half hour, so you get a fresh set of faces every 30 minutes.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and you get to see some crazy shit. You get to see some really crazy shit. Lo always says the service industry is random. And that's one fun thing. That's about it. I bet that's just like you know. What would be cool is like a weekly TV show about a car dealer, because you could just have constant people rotating through. Yeah, you could just have, like you know, the weirdest shit happen.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
Wow, that'd be kind of a fun show you could do, like Curb your Enthusiasm, like it. You know what I'm saying when you just like someone's got to improv everything, yeah, and like you just throw in shit at them.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it was a fun job. It was hard to leave. I was like I'm making like 70K a year playing games all day.
Speaker 2:
Right, that's what I was going for, and I had the morning shift, so it would be like I'd go in at nine and be done by four. I was going to ask how many hours? A lot of breaks, three breaks in a six-hour shift.
Speaker 3:
How many A 30-minute break each two hours yeah.
Speaker 1:
And that's most Usually.
Speaker 3:
it's in the hour to an hour and a half and you still walk out with that much per year. Yeah, god, I'm doing the wrong thing. It was wild money.
Speaker 1:
And you can go like any place that has casinos and make the same amount of money anywhere. Obviously, now it's not used to be.
Speaker 2:
Oh no, no, my neighbor's a poker dealer and he brings down that. Working four days a week, yeah, working like five to seven hour shifts well, gambling's legal in florida. Now that's yeah, he's been he's been doing it at the kennel club forever because that's it's been like a poker room, like a like kevin hart.
Speaker 3:
He's like dealt for kevin hart and those guys, because when they all come through.
Speaker 1:
That's where everybody goes.
Speaker 2:
It's like it's like something you see on the world series of poker.
Speaker 1:
Whatever it's a huge room full of tables I dealt poker remember the fox and the hound yeah, I don't, I don't poker there when they were doing like the world series poker. You can basically like qualify as a nobody through these little tournaments that are running around the country. So I dealt those tournaments oh wow, that's cool.
Speaker 2:
They're fun, yeah, yeah. Did you get a percentage of buy-ins or?
Speaker 1:
no, because technically it's out of non-like legal. So they're tournament style. So people buy in, get chips but they tip and then the, the fox and the hound would give us like a gift card, like a hundred dollar gift card or something and free drinks all night and a free meal.
Speaker 1:
So I was like keeps you sharp yeah, I was like I have nothing else going on. I was doing it while I was dealing, but I was like I didn't know anyone when I moved out here. So I was like, oh well, shit, I'll go yeah, sling some cards and make a little bit, get some free drinks I didn't have any money.
Speaker 2:
So I was like in all you in your decade of doing that stuff. Yeah, what's the craziest thing you see happen at a table?
Speaker 1:
at a table. Oh, oh, no photos oh, no, no, no photos no photos, oh shit. Let me think the tables we've had. I mean we've had people straight up tip out of chairs. We've had people throw up like all over the table. Yeah, what do you? Oh, I've caught people cheating.
Speaker 2:
That's fun like trying like cheating with cards yeah, like, no, like.
Speaker 1:
Capping their bets is usually the big ones where?
Speaker 1:
people like try to slide money over top of theirs when they know they've won. So that's always fun. And the guy I caught cheating, I was like hey, we need to go check security. I'm like I totally caught this guy capping his bet. So we go up, we check the cameras. We're like, oh yeah, there it is, call the gaming commission. We're like hey, caught this guy cheating, blah blah, he's left. So they followed the cameras, because there's a thousand cameras in the casino. Followed him over to the next uh casino over, which is where he was staying, got to his room, knocked on the door and they're like hey, blah, blah, we're here from the gaming commission. Like you're under arrest for stealing and you have all these warrants out for your arrest no, so that's how they figured out who he was and his girlfriend was like I don't get it, he doesn't like hunter fish or anything.
Speaker 1:
They were like no, no, no, no, wrong gaming commission.
Speaker 3:
At the Game Fish and.
Speaker 1:
Park.
Speaker 3:
It's like a casino game. I'd rather be lucky than good. I'd rather live misunderstood. No-transcript.
