Hey, Michele and Julee here, stepping out from behind the mic to pen down an enticing sneak peek into our latest heart-to-heart. Picture this: a botanical garden in Austin, the air filled with anticipation and love—Julee's son is about to propose. Our episode unfolds with this enchanting story, alongside the comical series of events that almost had Julee missing the monumental moment. And of course, where would we be without a shoutout to our own behind-the-scenes savior, Michele, whose pet-sitting and airport sprinting saved the day?
Easing from personal tales to a buzzworthy discussion, we tackle the new-to-us concept of 'quiet quitting.' Ever felt like you're just going through the motions at work or in a relationship? We're diving headfirst into why this might be happening and how it echoes across both professional and personal landscapes. It's not just about doing the bare minimum; it's about the bigger picture—how the shift in work and life balance during the pandemic has influenced our engagement and satisfaction levels. Plus, we don't shy away from self-reflection; could recognizing these signs of apathy lead us to make more fulfilling life choices?
Wrapping things up, we're not just talking theory—we're sharing the real deal from our own lives about nurturing relationships through the small stuff that counts. From understanding love languages to the critical role of communication, we spill the beans on staying connected amidst the humdrum of daily life. And for those braving the long-distance love, we've got insights on keeping the flame alive. So, grab your headphones and join us as we weave through the joys and challenges of keeping it real, both at work and with your loved ones. Stay engaged with us on social media for all the juicy follow-ups and remember, we're just a click away until next time.
Hey, Michele and Julee here, stepping out from behind the mic to pen down an enticing sneak peek into our latest heart-to-heart. Picture this: a botanical garden in Austin, the air filled with anticipation and love—Julee's son is about to propose. Our episode unfolds with this enchanting story, alongside the comical series of events that almost had Julee missing the monumental moment. And of course, where would we be without a shoutout to our own behind-the-scenes savior, Michele, whose pet-sitting and airport sprinting saved the day?
Easing from personal tales to a buzzworthy discussion, we tackle the new-to-us concept of 'quiet quitting.' Ever felt like you're just going through the motions at work or in a relationship? We're diving headfirst into why this might be happening and how it echoes across both professional and personal landscapes. It's not just about doing the bare minimum; it's about the bigger picture—how the shift in work and life balance during the pandemic has influenced our engagement and satisfaction levels. Plus, we don't shy away from self-reflection; could recognizing these signs of apathy lead us to make more fulfilling life choices?
Wrapping things up, we're not just talking theory—we're sharing the real deal from our own lives about nurturing relationships through the small stuff that counts. From understanding love languages to the critical role of communication, we spill the beans on staying connected amidst the humdrum of daily life. And for those braving the long-distance love, we've got insights on keeping the flame alive. So, grab your headphones and join us as we weave through the joys and challenges of keeping it real, both at work and with your loved ones. Stay engaged with us on social media for all the juicy follow-ups and remember, we're just a click away until next time.
Speaker 1:
Hey everybody. This is Michelle and this is Julie. Welcome to a blonde, a brunette and a mic podcast. What is our podcast all about, you ask?
Speaker 2:
Well, we're 250 something. Women with life experience and oh, bloody to say which is exactly what we're gonna do right now.
Speaker 1:
Hey Jules, hey Shelley, what's new is?
Speaker 2:
there anything new? Going on in your life there's so much going on right now, so, so, so much can I share with you about the most amazing weekend. Please do all right.
Speaker 2:
Well, you already kind of know, but everybody else doesn't know um yeah, so I, my son, andrew the oldest, he uh has been working on this whole scheme to propose to his girlfriend Amelia and we have, we've been doing this for a little while, or he's been doing this, but really we were brought in a little bit later spa weekend with her mother to Austin, which is where they're moving, and she was going to show her mom around and then it's her 30th birthday, so her mom surprised her and had her sister Caroline fly in from New York.
Speaker 2:
So that was her surprise, right. And then Andrew flew in and for the quote family pictures and for her 30th birthday and yeah, I know, and then had it all arranged to where there's a photographer and stuff there. As soon as he can see that people were in place kind of behind him at this botanical gardens in Austin he cut down on one knee and proposed to her and I'm telling you it was the weirdest, most surreal feeling to have your child like take that step, he's not a child anymore, he's 31. Right, but it was so awesome, his family was there and we had, we had just the best weekend. So anyway, looks like.
Speaker 2:
I'm pretty excited about that. Congratulations, yeah, and I'll put some pictures here with the video so you guys can see how adorably cute Barbie and Ken are. They're so cute. So, anyway, that was my weekend.
Speaker 1:
They probably don't like it when I call them Barbie. That's so great.
Speaker 2:
I know you were like really looking forward to it and everything went off without a hitch, so that's great Well, with the exception of me missing my flight and Michelle having to bring my wallet to me at the airport about that, yeah.
Speaker 2:
And then having to catch a red eye that was delayed in Denver because of snow, I mean it's just kind of a comedy of air, such a Julie thing to do. But I got there by 930 in the morning and so I was there in time. I was not going to miss that, camilla, high water, you know. So there you go, yeah that's it.
Speaker 1:
You've already been through all that a couple times.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, anyway, what have you been up to?
Speaker 1:
You know what? Nothing's really new outside of taking care of your puppies while you were off gallivanting in Austin Texas. You know that that kept me busy through the weekend and I kept sweeping up bark that Cash likes to bring in the house, and you know we just kept each other company and it was all good.
Speaker 2:
Okay, well, thank you for watching them and keeping him from destroying the house. I do appreciate that Harlow's asleep.
Speaker 1:
And also, yes, driving your ID to the airport. Let's just say I was very grateful that I was available to run home, find your ID and bring it to you to the airport. It was kind of an exciting like challenge.
Speaker 2:
Okay, so all of you people out there that are listening who has a friend, like I do, because there's not many people that would do such a wonderful thing on a Friday in traffic yeah, she got a bottle of Tito's out of it at least, yeah, yeah, well, we have a kind of a good one today. Let's just get into it. Right, let's get into it. Hopefully our volume is sounding a little bit better than last week, so that's the thing, you guys. Disclaimer is um, we're not very techie people and we're trying to figure this out on our own. I guess you could call us stubborn to some degree. Uh, so, if the sound is off here and it's because we're learning, but hey, it's like at least we're getting it out there, right? So so the topic have you ever heard of quiet quitting? Until now, I'm asking you, michelle, I had never heard of it.
Speaker 1:
I know you hadn't, I had never heard of it until you threw it out there and I was like, what's quiet quitting? And then you know, you just think about the term and of course I thought of relationships. I was thinking, yeah, which we'll get into that because it does cover that. But when, uh, you threw this out and then I was looking at um content to put into it, it was all about uh in the workplace.
Speaker 2:
well, so when we're talking about quiet quitting, then we're talking about people who are in the workplace. Yeah, that's where it started, well. So when we're talking about quiet quitting, then we're talking about people who are in the workforce to collect the Benjamins. It's all about the Benjamins. They're not there to yeah, they're not there to necessarily do a good job. They're there to do the bare minimum. They're, uh, maybe burnt out, maybe not feeling uh supported, maybe not feeling supported, just unhappy really with where they're at, or they might just be kind of ambivalent to what's going on around them and they're just doing what they can to bring home a paycheck.
Speaker 2:
So that is how it started. There was a gentleman. He was actually a recruiter during March of 2020. So at the very beginning of the pandemic his name is Brian Creeley, nashville based corporate recruiter, and he had turned a career coach and had posted some videos on TikTok and YouTube in that month March of 2022, talking, talking about this, and so his obviously direction was related to jobs and, you know, it's kind of transitioned now into really kind of you see the same thing happening in relationships. It's basically just not putting your all or putting your minimum effort into something that you're having to do, whether and it's usually something important, like bringing home a paycheck, or your relationship, which you know hopefully is an important thing in your life.
Speaker 1:
Well, I think, as you were talking about some of that and I was looking at, you know, behaviors of the quiet quitter, especially in a, in a job setting, I just was thinking about myself myself because it was talking about.
Speaker 1:
You know, a quiet kid or quit, or won't necessarily, you know they're not going to show up early or stay late or go to that meeting. That's not mandatory. You know that kind of thing, which I'm the kind of person I do, all that shit, but that's just the fabric of who I am, that shit, but that's just the fabric of who I am. I'm going to do that just because, and even in the ones where you're just kind of struggling to get through it. So I think sometimes, outside of being that person that's just there to collect the paycheck and doing the bare minimum, I think really some of that has to do with the character of how a person yeah, or how much they've done this before and do with the character of how a person, yeah, or how much they've done this before, and so it just becomes kind of a habit.
Speaker 2:
Like I was talking with this individual who has a pretty lucrative, a high paying job as a manager and overseeing a bunch of other people and I was talking to him on the phone and he was talking about these TikTok videos that he was watching and I'm kind of like, aren't you, aren't you at work? He goes, yeah, but you know, if they don't need me, I just kind of do my thing or I'll leave early or whatever. I'm just like, oh, that's kind of nasty. Yeah, I don't like that. That.
Speaker 2:
That does not give me a good vibe about their work ethic or about kind of what they're all about. They're more just kind of taking advantage of the company that they work for because nobody's watching them, because they're in a manager role in that particular case. But that was essentially the same thing. That person probably will be retiring in a few years and it's just like I'm just going to do what I need to do and watch my videos and you know whatever else he does when he's at work if they don't need him quote unquote. And I just thought you know that is. There's people like that, we've all had people that we've worked with people like that.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, and having been a manager or supervisor, just like you had been one, you definitely run across that where people are not willing to kind of, you know, flex a little bit, or they get upset about their schedule being, you know, having to be altered from one paycheck to the other. You found we're not in that quiet quitting mindset At least that was my experience. So now I'm in a 100% commission-based business, so there's no quiet quitting going on here, because it's like we don't get paid if we quiet quit, that's not going to happen.
Speaker 2:
It's not a business for people that want to quiet, quit or just, you know, bring home the Benjamins and not have to work for it. So anyway, I think too, with the, the workforce being as light as it's been, there just hasn't been a ton of individuals who maybe would fill some positions. I know, during the pandemic it was huge, because I know around here and you probably remember this but the hourly rates were increased to accommodate some of the cost of living increases, and it was done during the pandemic because people were having so much difficulty making ends meet. And so I think to managers, whether it be for restaurants or retail grocery, whatever, were tolerating some of this behavior because they didn't have anybody else to replace the people who were being lazy bones, you know. So that has been kind of.
Speaker 2:
Now that's kind of changing a little bit, I think, because there's more people entering the workforce and it's not something like where the employee is doing you a favor by being there, but where you're actually having to work for your position. Obviously it's not everywhere, but that is something that you see come up more in the research that I had seen come up more. But I think that is a disturbing trend that had started and has transitioned now into the whole relationship thing like we were talking about, because it's like, well, think about it, if you're kind of, you know, ambivalent to your job and you're just kind of going with the flow and doing your thing and you come home, maybe you're doing the same thing at home, you know, just living, not really doing anything to better your situation or your job performance or your relationship, or, you know, whatever's going on in your life, that's important, you know.
Speaker 1:
So, um Well, and those are all things that have to do with also how you're. Again, I guess I just go back to how you're feeling about yourself and again I'm still thinking of the workplace, but transitioning over into relationships like you're talking about, and the term quiet quitting. When I look back to a relationship, looking back at my marriage, I've used the term that I was silently starting to prepare, which I suppose is kind of the same thing yeah, yeah, you know you, you get yeah to this point. It could be in a relationship, it could be in a marriage, whatever it is really. It could be with anything in life. That could be, you know, the relationship in some kind of social community or church, or you know, boyfriend-girlfriend relationship, partnership relationship. This can be in so many things. In the setting that you're in, those things are going to start to change. You might start to do a little bit of self-reflecting and you know, yeah, continue on. Eventually it just maybe fizzle out.
Speaker 2:
Well, that's the whole thing. It's like, I think, quiet quitting is kind of a gradual process with whatever it is. It's not like you're making a conscious decision. You might be in a position where you're kind of trying to feel things out to see if it's something that you even want to do, if you want to move on to something else or leave a relationship, for example, or leave a job. You just kind of do the bare minimum.
Speaker 2:
You know, and it's funny because I can can recall that too in my own, you know, relationship, where I I just stopped trying, I just kind of stopped making an effort, you know, and in my mind I was thinking okay, I've made all the effort I need to make, if nothing this is what I remember thinking if nothing happens, if I do nothing, if I don't do all the things that I feel like I'm doing, will anything survive, will this relationship survive? In my mind, that's what I was thinking, and so I guess I did quit that relationship too, because at the end of it I was just like I'm kind of done, not going to put any more effort in, and whether I was consciously or subconsciously doing that, I certainly wasn't thinking about it from this standpoint, but it's definitely what I was probably doing.
Speaker 1:
So why do you?
Speaker 2:
think that kind of thing happens in? Let's just go into romantic relationships for a second. Where do you think that comes from?
Speaker 1:
Well, I think it's some of the stuff that we've talked about on other episodes in regard to intimacy, a lot of the things.
Speaker 1:
Because when you look at some of the signs which we can talk about these, the signs of the quiet, quitting is starting to happen and you do that self-reflection, you know, like we've discussed, in marriages, in relationships, people are starting to get busy. You're in two different places for so much of the time and and you know all the busyness and and all the things, um, that go on in living those two separate lives. If you're, if you're not, coming together and you know finding that common ground, continually putting forth that conscious effort on how things are going to continue to feel good, then that's where things start happening, like the disengagement that I mentioned earlier. Or you know, there's going to be emotional indifference between the two of you, right, romantic disengagement between the two of you, right, romantic disengagement yeah, you know, mentally detaching, I think that's kind of a term. That is really what you were just talking about when you were, you know, reflecting back on on your relationship.
Speaker 2:
So I mean, I think we're all emotional beings and you know we're in the, we're processing things, whether it be, you know again, work related issues, or whether it be relationship related issues. It's kind of the same thing, obviously a little different because we're not talking about romantic entanglements.
Speaker 2:
But yeah for both, but you're. I think that as human beings we have that emotional, the ability to disconnect emotionally without necessarily realizing that's what we're doing, because it might be too painful to do it another way, and so we just kind of avoid, we avoid things, which is directly related to a lot of this. So attention toward things that were important before you're just kind of not paying attention in the same way or giving it the same level of priority. You know that you might, you might not want to just deal with your partner, you know, or you just might not want to deal with what's happening at work because maybe you're overwhelmed, maybe you've got other things going on, but you feel like it's asking too much of you, so you just don't put the effort in and it's not something that's as important to you maybe as it was when you started.
Speaker 2:
And with relationships I think that disengagement you were talking about you end up starting to see the people kind of disassociating in the way that you mentioned and spending less and less time together. Now some people can say, well, it's good for people to be independent, but is it so good to be independent that you're not connected? Like the line to connect you is so slim that it would be very easy to cut, you know, very easy to just sever completely, because there is not a lot of foundation behind it. So, yeah, there's.
Speaker 2:
There's a lot of different components to this, but I wonder if people really were able to identify what their behavior is early on and go wow, I think this is, this is where I am, this is what I'm doing. They can make, if they choose, to adjustments to start looking at it from a different perspective, and I think that's probably what is going to be. The real bedrock for a long-lasting loving relationship is it's built on small gestures and not big gestures. Small acts as opposed to words or big acts of, you know, gestures and stuff, like I mentioned before. And so people have they just get tired. I think they just get tired of just doing the same thing over and over again and don't put the effort into something because they're just tired tired of it, you know, tired tired of it, you know.
Speaker 1:
So I think, the effort and the little things that you do put in, it's important that those things bring you joy and that you're not just doing them to check off the box.
Speaker 1:
You know, um, and, and you really got to figure out what some of those things are. It's interesting Cause, as we're talking about talking about this, it's really crossover into more than a couple episodes that we've done in the relationship aspect. Anyways, I'm thinking of the love language episode that we did, the intimacy episode that we did, and a lot of those things are going to be what those acts are. And it's funny because last week we were talking about big T and little t in regards to trauma.
Speaker 2:
And now we've got the big acts and the little acts, so big A, little a, but you know some of those things like we could relate to from like trauma acts like we were talking about last week, little traumas, little things. It doesn't have to be from when we were little, it has to be from. It could be from this, for if I'm talking relationship for a second here, it's like there's something broken, there's something that is cracked that allows this type of disassociation to take place. No one's like say, for example, your partner's not calling you on it and your partner's not saying, hey, we need to talk about this. I feel like you're distancing yourself from me, or I feel like you're not trying to spend time or when I ask you to do something or ask to spend time together, you find a reason not to what's going on.
Speaker 2:
So instead, what ends up happening is people just kind of start going and doing their own thing. The next thing you know, every vacation is with your friends. That happened with me. Every vacation is going to, you know, a football game, or going to deer hunt or going somewhere else, doing something with other people and not the person who's your spouse.
Speaker 2:
And I have found that with children that it becomes very, very easy to quiet, quit without even realizing a relationship, because a lot of your if you're not careful, a lot of your time, effort, attention and everything are placed on those little humans and in the back of your mind you're like well, my relationship's strong, I can handle it. But relationships need constant nurturing, constant communication, constant, and it doesn't have to be like you're in each other's faces all the time, but it has to be where there's some level of connection that you need from that person in that relationship in order to keep it healthy and keep it strong, even though all those other things are going on too, of course, because you know we live busy lives, we all have people that we're responsible to. So I think it's about making who that person is in a relationship, for example, the priority that comes first, really before anything else, and that's really hard.
Speaker 2:
Well, I know that was really hard for me because I always felt like, okay, we can handle this, we'll deal with our stuff later. We're good and really you know you become not good because you're. It happens over and over again. Then all of a sudden it becomes kind of the practice or the habit that uh, is the not the exception, but the rule. You don't even realize it's happening probably.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and the communication, communication, as you were saying, a lot of that. It just made me think of the relationship that I'm in now, of course, those dynamics, because it's a long distance relationship, so we've had to really go out of our way to be able to communicate. But I know there's been occasion, as you were talking about one of the points you were making, and I know that I have spoken up and said that before. Like you know, when I don't hear from you, it makes me feel like you're not thinking about me, right, and of course he would never do that intentionally. But if I don't say anything and I'm feeling that way, it's really important that you speak up and and be able to share what that feels like, so that the other person is aware, because they might not even be aware to your point. Also, like you were saying, sometimes you don't even realize the disconnection is is taking place and sometimes it's not going to be intentional or something that you're even needing to do.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, yeah, it doesn't take much to get to that point. That's what I've kind of noticed, and so you know how you, how people, view their relationship. Whatever their relationship is, if it's a marriage or if it's your significant other, whatever, you know how they look at that relationship and the, the attention that they pay towards it gives you a good indication on, probably, the depth uh, you know the depth of that relationship and how well it's been nurtured over time so it can withstand little things here and there.
Speaker 2:
But yeah, I know it's funny because you think that think about like girlfriends like you and I could go, we could go a month without, okay, that would be weird. But let's just say hypothetically, we could go a month without talking to each other. That would be weird. But let's just say hypothetically, we could go a month without talking to each other, that would be weird. Yeah, like MB. Great example, my friend MB, you know, who lives in Idaho. I don't, I see her like every couple of years maybe, and we are back and forth sending each other goofy things, texting each other. You know, we call each other, we can literally pick up where we left off, you know, because, yeah, it's different, it's a friendship made my friend any thing yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:
It's like a childhood friend or the place yeah and uh, you can pick up where you left off, you get caught up on everything and it's cool and nobody's feelings are hurt and stuff. But you can't do that with a, with a husband or a wife. I mean, you can't do that in that kind of a relationship because, like, go without talking to you or seeing you for a month and not chatting every day and stuff. It's like I feel like I would feel disconnected almost immediately. So I remember when we were talking before about distance relationships.
Speaker 2:
that's why I was like I don't even know how you do it, because I would have the hardest time I would be. I'd be homesick for that person, I'd want to talk to them, maybe once a day kind of a thing, or FaceTime with them or you know, whatever you want to do.
Speaker 2:
But if I, if there was an end in sight like I knew it was going to be something that was only going to be six months, it was only going to be a year, then I could manage it. That was only going to be six months, it was only going to be a year, then I could manage it. But if I didn't know that, I would be like being I would be like the biggest pest going okay, what's the? What's the next step, what's the plan? I drive somebody crazy because I don't want to be in a different place. So it works so well for you guys. You know it does work and there is an end in sight. I'm sure At some point there will be an end in sight. Where that is, I don't know, but I'm certain it's coming soon.
Speaker 2:
Uh, but you've been able to. You've been able to continue nurturing your relationship from a distance and, you know, be each other's best friends from a distance. Pretty cool. And I know a lot of people, yeah, do that. Yeah, people that are in the military or have to travel a lot for work or you know that sort of thing. The military is what comes to mind. A lot of people do that. Yeah, people that are in the military or have to travel a lot for work or you know that sort of thing. The military is what comes to mind a lot because you see families separated so much and that would be so hard.
Speaker 2:
So I wouldn't necessarily choose something like that for myself because I need it. I need that person to probably be around me more, but obviously that didn't work for me well with my marriage. I don't know, we'll see what that's all about. Yeah, with relationships, I think some of it too. This quiet quitting is about, like I was mentioning before, you know, trying to decide what you want your next steps to be. And, you know, trying to decide do I stay, do I go? There might be children involved. There might be, you know, no love loss for whatever reason between you, but you're sticking around for financial reasons. Those are all things that I mean. It makes me sad, but that's the reality of what's happening, you know, maybe with a lot of people.
Speaker 1:
And so it goes.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it kind of goes into the whole other aspect of relationships that we've been talking about in other episodes. We've never quite put it this way, but this is the step prior to divorce Quiet quitting in a relationship.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
The step prior to a divorce. Now, not everybody gets the step of divorce, but this is the step of that. And so with jobs it's the same thing. It's like nobody wants some lazy bones working, but I don't want some lazy person working for me. That's doesn't put the effort in, that doesn't. That doesn't contribute, that earns a paycheck and just does the bare minimum. That absolutely makes me crazy.
Speaker 2:
Um yeah, I've had people like that before, but they were also people in positions that you know they go home and they're not doing work. They literally punch out and they're out. They don't talk to anybody outside of work. It's a different kind of role maybe, so anyway, um, it's interesting, though, cause we need those.
Speaker 1:
We need those. Uh, we need those employees also, I know, in the retail space I needed the ones that would go to the meetings would show up early, would stay late. You have those. But then you got the little worker bees that are just filling in the space, which are those quiet, quitter types. There's plenty of them out there.
Speaker 2:
Actually, that's a good way to put it.
Speaker 1:
Yeah.
Speaker 2:
So the parallel with someone in a job in a quiet quitting capacity is that they stay because they need to stay. Maybe they hate their job? I mean, have you ever been in a job that you hated? Me too? But I had to stay because I had to pay my rent or I had bills to pay, and so you know yeah it's out of necessity.
Speaker 2:
So I mean, depending on what kind of business it is, I guess the face of the company wants someone who is, you know, going to be putting on a good face for that particular company or brand or whatever. But behind the scenes people, it might not be as prevalent, you might not notice it as much. So, anyway, be as prevalent, you might not notice it as much. So anyway, that's quiet, quitting. So I'm hoping we're able to have more discussion about this kind of thing in the future. What I'm being quiet and we're quitting, do it really soon. Yeah, yeah. Any other thoughts on that?
Speaker 1:
No, it's an interesting, interesting parallel, I think you know, just talking about some of the signs of quiet quitting, especially in a relationship. Just be cognizant of that in your own life. If you're feeling that going on, if you're feeling it in your job and it's not an intentional thing, if you're feeling it in in your job and it's not an intentional thing, if you're feeling it in your relationship and it's not an intentional thing, raise awareness to that and maybe start asking yourself some questions as to why and start communicating and see if there's anything to move through that to make it better. If it's not what your intention is.
Speaker 2:
So I think we might have listeners that will hear about this and hear the different components to it, like the work component, like you mentioned, or the relationship component, and go holy shit, that's me. I mean that bring awareness to them, and maybe that would be a time to do some self-reflection and determine if what they're doing is really what they're intending to do or if it's something where they need to make a change, you know, and they just haven't gotten to the place yet where they're ready to do it.
Speaker 1:
So anyway, yeah, so yeah, anyway, yeah, well, uh, you know, with that note, you can just don't quite quit, but remember to go check us out on all our socials. We're on Instagram, facebook, youtube and uh, yeah, now you can not only listen to us, you can see us. If you want, check us out on our YouTube channel a blonde, blonde, brunette and a mic. We are out there and we would love to see you there. Download the episodes wherever you like, listening to yours, and you know we'll be there okay, so until next time, people.
Speaker 2:
Peace out from the brunette, peace out and the boy. All right, everybody. Bye, all right, bye.