The Chop Shop: A Music Production Podcast
DOMINO'S WITH HOUSE SHOES / THE AI INFLUENCE ON HIP-HOP BATTLES / HONORING MARY J. BLIGE & A TRIBE CALLED QUEST / WTF WAS THAT, PREEM?!
Guess Who's Back.. 🏠 👟
"I need singularities. None of these motherfuckers are singularities." - House Shoes
- Competition in rap beef has become less about music and more about social media and gimmicks. Kendrick vs Drake (or AI?)
- The quality of the beat is crucial in a diss track, as it sets the tone and credibility of the artist.
- The induction of A Tribe Called Quest into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is celebrated as a milestone for the group and for hip-hop as a whole.
- This episode emphasizes the importance of originality and individuality in music production. The current state of music lacks originality and innovation
- Singularities and artists who push the envelope are rare
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WEBSITE AND MERCH! - http://www.officialchopshoppod.com
Guess Who's Back.. 🏠 👟
"I need singularities. None of these motherfuckers are singularities." - House Shoes
- Competition in rap beef has become less about music and more about social media and gimmicks. Kendrick vs Drake (or AI?)
- The quality of the beat is crucial in a diss track, as it sets the tone and credibility of the artist.
- The induction of A Tribe Called Quest into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is celebrated as a milestone for the group and for hip-hop as a whole.
- This episode emphasizes the importance of originality and individuality in music production. The current state of music lacks originality and innovation
- Singularities and artists who push the envelope are rare
Follow us on Instagram
WEBSITE AND MERCH! - http://www.officialchopshoppod.com
yo, I ate dominoes. Last weekend. I ate it. I ate dominoes. Man, and, and, and, and. When I took a bite into the pizza, you shit immediately.
Speaker 2:No, this is where he knew he fucked up yeah, it was.
Speaker 1:It was immediate euphoria. It went me back. It took me back to my. I had the flat top in college and shit, I was like yo, this is great.
Speaker 2:The only reason, bro, I ordered that shit is because you get so much food for $20. You get so much food, bro. It's two pizzas, the bread bites, the cinnamon twists and a motherfucking two liter, but $20, bro. A pizza is $40 in this bitch One pizza is $40 in that, $50 with delivery. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna lie, man, it's better than Papa John's.
Speaker 2:Papa John's. That shit's like a dessert pizza. That shit's so sweet. If you like sweet pizza, you might be a Motherfuckers eating sweet pizza. You see that fucking kfc pizza sweet, oh my god no hold on. Hold on kfc got pizza. It's fucking tomato sauce, cheese and pepperoni on a chicken bread welcome to the chop shop.
Speaker 1:I am eddie james. Sitting here is my trusty brother from another mother, DJ React yeah.
Speaker 3:What's up?
Speaker 1:I feel like it's been a minute. Yeah, yeah, we got the bro with us again. Man, I'm loving it. You hear him?
Speaker 3:He's smoking that coffee yeah coughing.
Speaker 1:We got one of the greatest tastemakers on the planet Uncle Shoes. Yeah, uncle Shoes. Yeah, uncle Shoes, house Shoes. Thanks for coming, man Pause, because I don't Want to hear none of that Bullshit. We got the man House Shoes here with us. It's been a while Since we did A few weeks Since we did An episode. We ended up with the incredible 14KT an episode. We ended up with the incredible 14KT.
Speaker 3:Which, by the way, this beat is a 14KT joint too.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's just amazing, but we had to bring the guy back who is unapologetically giving you zero fucks, and that's why we're going to get the real house shoes. Thanks for coming back to the show he has a dominoes hangover.
Speaker 3:Full disclosure.
Speaker 1:So we don't want to get into that right now. I'll leave it at that we tried to do this a couple of days ago, but yeah, we're back. Yeah, we are back, man. Amen, we're back. How was your week, mr React?
Speaker 3:Fucking work and work and work, more work and fucking work and kids grabbing me, punching me, kicking me in the nuts. You know work and work and work, more work and fucking work and kids grabbing me, punching me, kicking me in the nuts. You know work and more work and some more, yeah, a little more work.
Speaker 1:You dj last night and I did. You thought for a split, uh for a hot second.
Speaker 3:I thought you and the homie dj quiz were gonna come by and say hello, but and I literally um no quiz was working. Actually he was djing too. He hit me at like two in the morning. He was like yo you, yo you going to the diner. I was like nah exactly right.
Speaker 1:That's how we do it right.
Speaker 3:I'm going home bro, I got home I had dominoes. Speaking of dominoes, hangovers, oh my god hey shoes.
Speaker 2:Come on, man, I did it, I did it again man we were supposed, we were supposed you gotta understand how many times I've sworn things off and like done them within like 48 hours in my life. And I did that shit again last week. Man, I was telling y'all before we came on it's just so much food, everything's so goddamn expensive out here and I'll be like you know you get half of the menu for 20. They got a special where they just give you half the menu and a two liter. It's like 20. I was like. But you know you don't even get to the two.
Speaker 1:You don't even get to the two liter pause and like, like, but. But like yo people, if, if, listen man, this all disclosed information. But it was one of the funniest conversations I've had in a long time and, uh, it just, it, just, it ended with domino's pizza. But the funny thing about it is is shoes, you ate domino's right and react, you ate dominoes right and I swear, I swear on my nana's grave last week there was no pizza places open in Syracuse, new York, and I ate dominoes pizza fucking.
Speaker 2:Three stooges, bro, three stooges.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna lie, she was great three blind mice bro. I ate the fucking pizza and it automatically immediately regretted that shit to 90 something you had a joyful experience.
Speaker 2:Me and React didn't quite have the same emotional grasp of the moment.
Speaker 1:I had an emotional grasp on the fucking toilet bowl this morning yeah, but last night you ate the shit and it was like, yeah, it was good, right oh yeah, it was delicious yeah, I had to buy a new toilet a total you made me want to get that shit.
Speaker 2:Made me want to get a bidet, bro like I got one of them shits I'm gonna get three of them and I only got one toilet you got a bidet, you guys got a bidet, I got a bidet.
Speaker 3:This shit is life changing. Let me tell you.
Speaker 2:Does that shit have the blow dryer on it too? That's the one part that I always you just get up with a wet ass, right? That shit need a blow dryer on it.
Speaker 1:No, no, you know what at my son's.
Speaker 3:you gotta do a little fucking adapt, you're still using toilet paper.
Speaker 2:You got to pat pat pat.
Speaker 3:Nah, you can't use the toilet paper, bro, because your butt cheeks are wet. You can't use the toilet paper.
Speaker 2:Do you have like silk cloths and shit.
Speaker 3:What do you have, bro? Nah, you're fucking drip drying.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I'm telling you right now, like real talk, my son's boarding school I'm not gonna name it, but it's a, you know and and they got a bidet and one of the bathrooms and we stayed in there the first time we were there.
Speaker 2:they give us that room I thought you were gonna say you just stayed in in the bathroom on the bidet for like hours.
Speaker 1:I really, I really I'm gonna ride this one out.
Speaker 2:Yo, he was.
Speaker 1:He was facing the wall with his hands on it and shit yo. I looked to the left and I was like, do I even attempt? And when I did, man, I ain't got like no homo bro, yo that shit is good, it's just life changing.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you it was the greatest experience ever, when I was in Japan, I got my bars up.
Speaker 1:But you know what this one had the dryer, it had the, you know, and then it moved. You know like it was back yeah, back back and forth, man, it's like wow, it's like R2D2. She started beatboxing we're off to a great start. Oh my god man, if y'all are still here, if y'all are still listening, god bless y'all are still here, if y'all are still listening.
Speaker 2:God bless y'all.
Speaker 1:I know, man, listen, man, like I mean, first of all, let's just talk about this AI battle thing or this battle with Drake and the three, and I mean, how do you guys feel about all of that?
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, like I'm all about competition. Competition makes everybody greater, but I'm personally a person that doesn't give a fuck about competition when it comes to me personally right you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, and if, if, great records come out of it, that's cool. But I'm also damn near 50 years old and fucking rap beef is corny it it is. You know what I mean. And then when you introduce all this new shit like AI, you don't even know what's real. And changing the voices and shit, that shit is corny as fuck. Man, like it's corny, like the whole point of a real rap beef is to be the complete furthest thing from whatever's corny in the industry.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's right, and when the rap beef is the corniest thing in the in the industry, it might be a problem especially how um hip-hop, um came about.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying um, you know, through the whole battles and my biggest thing is um, you know, getting back to the whole production side of it oh, the beat was fucking.
Speaker 3:the beats were fucking terrible, all of the music was terrible.
Speaker 2:I mean the beef ain't for the heads.
Speaker 3:No, it used to be.
Speaker 2:But I mean, it's for the kids now, and you know Gotta give them their little baby food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we come up. I mean listen, man, you're an old head, don't call me old head shit, I'm an old head like a motherfucker, proudly, proudly I mean, I'm younger than both of you, but I mean I'm, there is no old heads. I mean like, but. But what I was saying is man, like, at least, at least the beats used to pause, used to slap, like as long as I feel like it was an element of the fucking.
Speaker 3:Like Shu said, man, like the competition, like the beat had something to do with the shit. Yeah, I mean everything was more.
Speaker 2:I mean, the music industry has never been less about music than it is today yeah, okay so I mean shit that happened 20, 30 years ago. It was so much more about actually making good records yeah, but these I mean.
Speaker 1:But some of these guys are releasing these shits as records. I mean, actually some of them they try to try to, but now they are.
Speaker 2:I'm saying, and they were back then, but the shit was harder because it was more of a musically inclined space. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:right, right, but I'm glad you say that because we we go back to um, the bridge is over, or the bridge. You know I'm saying um or or l l's um and he's just yo. By the way, is there some some crazy ass, questionable, plausible fucking names? Jack the Ripper? No Vaseline and no Vaseline bro and pause.
Speaker 2:That's the hardest shit ever right, right, so it makes sense that no, vaseline would be the hardest shit ever, right, right, but those but the musical without sounding crazy, but the musical backdrop to those diss records were incredible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were.
Speaker 2:And the raps were dope and the beat you know.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Back then there were rules to shit Like you can't diss a motherfucker on a whack-ass beat. That's what I'm saying that shit removes all credibility from your diss if the beat is whack as fuck let's talk about this real quick because I'm glad you.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you said that one of the dopest diss records ever probably had one of the worst, oh yeah, beats ever well, not well, not one of the worst beats ever, but I mean in terms of like it was terrible yeah, you know what I'm gonna say, but no disrespect. No, absolutely no disrespect. He's one of the I mean the greatest rappers he's a dope producer walking the planet. I don't I don't even know who produced the record. I'm just talking about the actual record. It's ether. Yes, yes, yeah yeah, I don't even know browns who did.
Speaker 1:Who did it? I mean ron browns? Oh okay, all right, I mean I just yeah, I I wasn't a fan of the beat, I, I just uh.
Speaker 2:But I wasn't a fan of the beat either. I'm not a fan of the beat, but it wasn't a bad song, because takeover was just so much better it was, it was.
Speaker 1:I mean but, but. But if you think about it like um, it was it like it. Here's the thing about the whole battle shit like jay-z did that record um, and and it was. It was a disc record, but it wasn't specifically from one person, it was you know, for a multitude of people for a multitude.
Speaker 2:Yeah right, but the beat was crazy, you know I mean it was a record you could play outside of the context of the battle. It could get like ether probably got. Ether got played on the radio in new york but that didn't get played on the radio nowhere else. Takeover probably got played all over the fucking world you can still play.
Speaker 1:You can still play the takeover like you can, um, but that's. But that's what I meant.
Speaker 2:Like and takeover is not the craziest fucking beat either nope, but it's way better right it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't.
Speaker 1:And shouts out, shouts to um, and I can't wait till the project comes out because I'm very excited for it. Um, like the bitch in, you was crazy oh absolutely with pete rock and uh in common absolutely. You know the beat slapped like pause and and just just a whole that's. That's what I'm talking about. That may be one of the dopest fucking disc records ever oh absolutely outside of the bridge is over.
Speaker 1:I think the oh absolutely Outside of the Bridges Over. I think the Bridges Over for me is the greatest one, because it was just just incredible.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for me it's no Vaseline Pause.
Speaker 1:Word Okay.
Speaker 2:Really yeah, because NWA was the hardest motherfucking group ever and Cube washed the fuck out of them on every line, on the fucking, every line of that motherfucker was just questionable. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, oh wait yeah, there was some like some subliminal records too, and we'll be brief on the whole. This like but but kicking the door was about Nas and, and that wasn't really subliminal though, was it? Um, yeah, it kind of was, because I mean I didn't know right off the rip from Biggie that wasn't really subliminal though, was it? Yeah, it kind of was, because I mean I didn't know right off the rip that he was talking about Nas. He had some real questionable lines in that shit too.
Speaker 1:There was a lot of questionable lines in mid-90s hip-hop.
Speaker 3:You know, get in that ass quick, fast like Ramadan. I'm just saying we were playing that game. He was rolling with Puffy too. So I mean, you know, oh my God Yo.
Speaker 2:I just got.
Speaker 3:Puffy wrote that bar.
Speaker 2:I think I sent y'all the fucking Cam and May. Shit Did I send y'all that shit?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's. Oh, my God, that was horrible.
Speaker 2:You know I've been meaning to like tap in. Just. Their personalities are so perfect together.
Speaker 3:On that no, they're great.
Speaker 2:But that fucking pause, fucking super clip, shit. Geez, I ain't laughed that hard in about two years, bro. Oh, my god, because the reactions. It's so funny how mace is so you know, halfway like on the spectrum with the shit, with how slow his response is being shit. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:yeah, what's crazy is that that um that you know that mace was there for a great deal of uh publishing that puppy shenanigans it's just so ill-known when you know the history like you like fuck, children of the corn, got a fucking podcast you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like they've known each other for like 35 years probably oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, but also, um, I'm very proud to say that my favorite group on the planet, a tribe called quest, got out, and you know they're in the rock and roll hall of fame shout out to the rock and roll hall of fame if you haven't gone, please go.
Speaker 3:It is a super, super dope fucking experience.
Speaker 1:If you're a music guy I may show, I may show up for that, I may show up for you ever been there? No, I've never no, yeah, yeah, I've never been there, oh man it's incredible you've been there. I know you've been there really oh man, we're like like you man my nephew.
Speaker 3:My nephew went out there to play the piano. He got picked. He got picked from I don't't know what the contest was. He was in a school, a music school, and he got picked to play Billy Joel on stage at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as well. Oh, wow, yeah, and we all went as a family.
Speaker 1:His nephew is super talented, yeah, super talented.
Speaker 3:Shout out to my nephew Crazy experience, man. Like shit that you would never see. Obviously you're not, not gonna see anywhere else. Like they had fucking michael jackson's glove like encased in, like this glass thing that was like spinning. They had all sorts of crazy uh exhibits and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, I did go to the grammy museum on sunday because, uh, they had, they had a Serato thing with Sonny James and DJ Khalil.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Pretty dope, but I walked it real quick. They had a hip hop exhibit. It was cool, you know what I mean. They had like Michael Jackson's Thriller jacket in there and all that shit.
Speaker 3:That's cool. Yeah, they had shit like that in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame too, right, yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1:I've never been there, but I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about have to have to time up the date and I really want to go, because you go, man, we take a trip. The first group that I identified with actually two groups was that were De La and Tribe, and for them to to get into it, man, I feel like man, I seen everything, you know like right, that was me saying this shit, right, yeah it was me, it was me, man, you know, um, they, you know they didn't grow up.
Speaker 1:You know we grew up in all inner city neighborhoods but I wasn't, I wasn't you know body and motherfuckers and nothing like that. It was just like uh, I can relate to that, you know, and uh, so I may show up for that. It's just sad man, because man, uh, fife was a super cool dude man. That was my guy absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we went to. We went to the nike employee store in, uh, beaverton one time together did you, me and fife? Yeah, it's just fucking crazy yeah, it was five.
Speaker 1:Five was super. Um, I met him at def jam one time in the office and, uh, super sports buff, we just talked about sports the whole time. Yeah, big basketball guy, yeah, basketball football, the whole nine. He was like you know. But, um, you know, if it wasn't for the tribe getting back to you know, we talk in terms of production man you know, if it wasn't for, for, for tip, all my early works, or I'm listen, I'm nobody, but I know he influenced a lot of people, including, including Jay.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, hell, yeah, yeah, shout out to tip man, tip, shout to shaheed, shout to jerobie. Rest in peace, fife, absolutely man yeah, you know first like first time they were up for the end. That's what the fuck I'm talking about. Let's get these motherfuckers up in there. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3:yeah, the hip-hop hall of fame opens up soon too. I think opens up this year, I think toward up towards the end of the year.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm like. You know it's cool. It's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, though I know it's the highest standard and shit. Of course we know what the fuck it is. It's great to see them, motherfuckers, give us the accolades and, in our culture, the accolades that it deserves, though you know what I mean yeah, mary, j's going in too man, I saw an article where what was it on?
Speaker 2:I forget what website it was on, but it was like it was a rap urban website and shit, because they talked about. The headline was Mary J Blige and Tribe Called Quest to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and they had like the worst fucking picture of Mary J Blige I have ever seen in my life, bro. I was like, oh man, somebody don't like her over there, it's something why they do a dirty, like it's the worst picture.
Speaker 2:Uh, I'm gonna find that shit after the fucking. Uh, after we do this, I'm going to send it to you. That's fucking awful.
Speaker 1:That's fucked up. I don't like it. I mean that's horrible.
Speaker 3:I can't stand when he does that. It's not as horrible as this Biggie Funko, though. This Biggie Funko they did him dirty. Look at that shit.
Speaker 2:That shit is ugly as fuck. The fucked up thing is oh, that's horrible, it's horrible.
Speaker 3:It's, it's horrible.
Speaker 2:It's a funko, it's one of the funko gold joints.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that shit is, I mean that shit is bad man.
Speaker 2:Look at that.
Speaker 3:Oh, is it edible the only thing that I can think is you would think it would be it's like chocolate.
Speaker 2:It could be worse, though that shit could be worse though shoes?
Speaker 3:I don't know bro, that's pretty fucking bad. Look at that shit react, react.
Speaker 2:I've been wanting to ask you something for a minute what's up? Uh, do you like? Hate me now. Do you like that record?
Speaker 3:I like the lyrics oh, fucking I.
Speaker 2:That's one of the. I broke that record on the stage at saint andrews when it came up like did you lord that's? We talked about how I used to do that shit. That was the. That was one of the worst beats I had ever heard in my life yeah, the beat was terrible. The beat was terrible and I can't listen through whack beats to hear what you're saying.
Speaker 3:It's like well, I mean listen, we all know nas is the king of fucking picking.
Speaker 1:Whack beats yeah king oh, speaking of which man? Oh yeah, I mean listen, listen, we got, we gotta talk about it, like that's right I don't, I don't want to harp too much, but it's just not me either, because I would like to have well, I mean there's a reason why I forgot about it.
Speaker 3:Let's put it like that Let me.
Speaker 2:Let me say this, my thoughts on it were it's the 30th anniversary of Illmatic. Just do New York, state of mind, part 3. Just do that or don't drop that. On the 30th anniversary of.
Speaker 1:Illmatic. You know what I mean. I'm telling you right now, man, I don't know, man, I just Listen.
Speaker 3:I love Premiere though, man. Come on man, I mean come on man.
Speaker 1:He's a fucking legend. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:He is Inarguably Come on bro. He can be once in a while too, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean like for real. I mean, would you say whack or just safe?
Speaker 2:I mean Safe.
Speaker 3:I think it was more safe than whack.
Speaker 2:No, he's got a couple funny ones. To me I mean, it's a lot less than most people, A lot less Like I could probably count on one hand, Like just that's a funny ass beat. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Does a joint come to mind?
Speaker 2:It wasn't released. Okay, I was about to say all right, all right. Yeah, you know what I mean it wasn't. Yeah, it might have been, it was on a beat tape or something. It never got.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for a reason that whole compilation that he put out of beats that collected dust, whatever it was like reason, I guess, reason why they collected dust I don't know man, I've been pretty late.
Speaker 2:No, primo had a whole thing beats, beats that collected dust and and I fucking love and have all the respect of course, yeah, I mean, but I just feel like, uh, I feel like eddie sancho had a lot of that sauce man, I feel like dnd had a lot of that sauce we talk about, uh, primo's greatness, just so many records, oh yeah he's known for yeah, yeah yeah, just I mean, what's your favorite? What's your?
Speaker 3:favorite primo record me or you know whoever, yeah, go my favorite.
Speaker 2:My favorite. I can't say it's too many records, but my favorite, primo beat. It's a tie for me. I have two, okay, and one of them is the super beat somebody in their fucking face, shit. And the other one is just cool as fuck.
Speaker 2:Half and Half the Gangstar MOP joint you know what I mean that shit would turn the fucking room up if you play that shit at the joint. You know what I mean. That shit would turn the fucking room up if you play that shit at the right time. You know what I mean. It's like a good transitional record. We're about to get wild in this bitch. You know what I mean. But the other one is the complete opposite side of the spectrum. It's the remix for me. Me at a Pace.
Speaker 2:Ooh, yeah that shit's so crazy, from fucking awards and just all the candy in there and the arrangement, oh Jesus.
Speaker 1:I mean, since shoes name too, I mean can I at least come with I need, I need to, because I can't, I can't. I am definitely going to say Crooklyn Dodgers to the return of the Crooklyn Dodgers man. That beat was just, I mean just.
Speaker 2:I saw the master disc for that on the wall at Amoeba one day. The master like the. That on the wall at Amoeba one day. The master like the OG, the original. Like before they press the records they do the acetate you make sure there's no imperfections. That shit was on the wall for like $100 maybe.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you said this in the last show too, I think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I fucking bought that shit and gave it to his ass.
Speaker 1:I mean, listen, man, I can't even say it, there's too many. But I know Crook and Dodgers. The return of the Crook and Dodgers was mine, and then it's a toss-up between Massapil and Nas is like Nas is like I want to punch somebody in the fucking face.
Speaker 2:You know what? Another fucking sleeper is A super sleeper, definitely probably number three for me, and it's like some total, like random, the paula perry shit, because the chops is. So it's, what about the?
Speaker 1:jeru joints like uh can't stop the prophet.
Speaker 2:That was crazy too I was always on that remix.
Speaker 1:I was always on the p rock shit, yeah, bro, yeah, that was crazy, so I got, I got, I got two.
Speaker 3:One is one is typical okay full clip. Oh yeah, typical though I mean you know some majority of people say that one of my favorite primo records, though, is like a real hidden abstract, like not too many people know about the shit. Well, I mean people know about it, but you know, just one of them records that punch you in the fucking face. Shoes knows this shit. You know this shit, right, shoes, yeah, yeah. Oh, you ever heard this record? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Jay-Z, jay-z turned that down.
Speaker 3:Did he really? I don't know what's going on. Baby EJ, you heard this record before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, oh and he kills it too. What about the? We beat the shit like crazy. There's so many joints, like there's so many joints. What about the?
Speaker 2:Yeah, if I'm not tripping, Jay-Z turned that beat down.
Speaker 1:No, who was the group that? He Was it. Oh, boom Boom, the Royce joints. That was the Royce. Yeah, Royce joint was crazy. I mean, arguably, at one point in time they were talking about the greatest producers ever, you know, and it was just him and Dre.
Speaker 2:For me it was always Pete and Kareem. And then, you know, I heard Jay and Jay. You know, that's the age old, the age old washed ass quote of mine. Like when I heard Jay, it was like Pete Rock on steroids.
Speaker 1:True that you did say something that caught my attention and I have to ask you this question. So we can, we can just go back to it. You said that knowledge is the dopest right now, or?
Speaker 2:No, I said knowledge is the most influential producer of probably the last 15 years Because, with the beat scene being present and everyone's making beats now and there's no investment we might have talked about that before. You know, cats was biting Jay back in the day, but you had to have bread to do that because you had to cop a MPC 3000. You had to cop a turntable mixer. You had to buy records every week. There was investment. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And when Knowledge came out, you just get a free crack program and rip some YouTube shit and you're off to the races. His influence on the entirety of of that community is is unrivaled in my opinion. Just the way that they took his sound and just kind of oh, yeah, kept it, I think I think putting his it was just kind of some of it was kind of gross to me because it's like we all start off by imitating.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, but yeah, we wouldn't imitate with your own shit we wouldn't put in that beat on out for the world the next day for everyone to hear, and like they got the same drops and like the same exact spaces like his drops in the same spaces in the beats and shit.
Speaker 1:It's like come on, bro, listen I I just I ain't gonna, I ain't gonna name no names, but I, I I bought a listen. I always buy music on bandcamp and it was a few beat tapes that I just bought recently and I'm like man, this shit sounds, it should sound just like knowledge. It do um and they're and they're really dope producers too, because I've seen, you know, within um on their beat tapes they, they do some original stuff that's theirs, so you know they can, they can actually do, they can do joints. You know I'm saying right, but um, I just never, I never, I never got that man like uh, but but I do say, I do say this I feel like that knowledge, um for me is uh, reminds me like of just record selections and and some I feel like mad lib might be his father, so like like he's a son.
Speaker 2:He's a son of mad lib in a way when I heard him, he just he had his own shit. Man, like it was just as it was exciting hearing, like when I was making beats back in the day, it would be exciting to hear a new fucking drum pattern. You know what I mean. That you haven't fucking heard six thousand times before. Like the new, the new use, like some type of new dictation of space. You know what I mean. I mean. And he had some fucking. His shit was different, man, you know what I mean. I fucking executive produced one of his fucking first releases and shit. That's another one to add to the list. You know what I mean? Old Clouds curated by House Shoes. It says it on the cover and that was probably fucking 15 years ago.
Speaker 1:Some shit that's why I mean like uh, that's why I like uh, guys like uh. A lot of people don't talk about, about juicy, um the emissary, you know amazing you know, just just just craziness, you know um and singularity yes, you know. I mean yes, yes, I mean I'm gonna ask you one more time. I mean I'll be putting the records out, man.
Speaker 2:I mean I mean, what records are you talking about?
Speaker 1:I know you put out a lot of stuff, but man, what's your time, my bro?
Speaker 2:what's fucking talking about, eddie?
Speaker 1:oh bro, I just feel, come on man, I just feel like that you should, I mean I mean that's cool. You know it's a free world, bro, we're all allowed to feel I mean like like for for for any, for any, um aspiring producer I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not, I'm not listening, I'm not you're not I'm not listening. I'm tapped out bro, I'm not available to it why is that?
Speaker 1:I mean come on, I'm not listening, I'm not available, I'm not listening, I'm tapped out bro, I'm not available to it.
Speaker 2:Why is that? I mean, come on man, I'm not bro. Like I told you bro, Like you know, real life shit, like as of right now, for the immediate future, like the love is gone.
Speaker 1:Like I still got my ears and shit and I'm doing my stream and I'm djing shows and shit, but I'm out of that, yeah, but, but I understand that, um, shoes, but but my, but my, my thing is uh, um, as produced as as djs, okay, um, we are we are to send a pack and if I like some shit I'll play it, but don't send me a pack trying to get a record.
Speaker 2:That's my words, for everybody all right.
Speaker 1:so I'm glad you said. I'm glad you said that, because has there been and there's a lot, of, a lot of new music and a lot of um, a lot of music out and a lot of new music, and is there anything that that you said?
Speaker 2:like man, like I really want to fuck with this, like like no, I mean, I play it Because I don't care anymore for the. I don't care anymore, bro. My heart is not in it, and this is always a situation where I acted on my heart. This shit was because I just wanted to give records to kids that would never have a record if I never heard that shit. I like to give kids their first record. I don't own a stitch of music on the label. I don't give a fuck about none of that shit. I want a kid to have a record. You know I mean, and I don't give a fuck about that shit anymore. I don't know what I gotta tell you. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, I know man, I just I just found, I just found it crazy, man, like because, because, 10 years bro 82 records okay why are you tripping? No, I know 82 records. I keep, I keep asking, I know, I know man, you ain't even you.
Speaker 2:You ain't went through that whole fucking joint yet you still have to listen to right, no, I have not, but, but no.
Speaker 1:But, but I will say is I have listened to a lot of music and I've been djing since I was 10 years old, which would right to put a date on. It was 1980, you know I'm saying so. I have a lot of music and I'm inspired and and um, but but for somebody like yourself to be um so influential the influence will never go away.
Speaker 2:That's what. That's what the 82 records are for right, no, no I know, you know what I mean, that's in the catalog. The catalog is crazy, yeah, you know it's not about what you carry with you, it's about what you leave you still didn't say why.
Speaker 1:I mean, are you jaded? Is it jade?
Speaker 2:you know like it was a business situation that went super left last year and that, combined with, you know, the passing of my father and just a bunch of other bullshit. It's like all the wind is out of the sails and I've I need to figure out how to put house shoes first. Yeah, I need to be my priority, not some fucking kid who's got dope beats.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm fucking exhausted, bro. You know what I mean. I'm the motherfucker that did every right thing for every right reason and the amount of fucking sacrifice that comes with that is ridiculous and I'm over it. And now I gotta figure out, you know, I gotta figure out how to put myself first and how to live above, above. You know surviving. Yeah, I'm a secret, bro. Like you know, motherfuckers that know know the truth and know who I am and what I've done and what I'm capable of yeah but I'm a fucking secret, bro.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean yeah and I need to get my. I need to get my motherfucking value. I'm searching for the motherfucker who's got the bag that's gonna pay me, that understands my value, to get their shit together, to get a bunch of motherfucking shit together, because I can get everybody else's shit together way quicker than I can get my shit together. So you see the conundrum right there.
Speaker 1:No, I do but, but, but you know what? But also, I mean you still, there's still a lot of, uh, young producers and a lot of still pressing the issue, bro.
Speaker 2:I mean, what the fuck, bro? Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2:So I ran into Khalil probably about five years ago at NAMM and I actually had I had Stolen Drums was with me and I introduced him to Khalil and shit. And Khalil pulls me aside and he's like shoes, your name comes up in the studios, in the streets, in the boardrooms. Don't get it fucked up, man. Motherfuckers know exactly who you are. And then he looked me in my eye and he said motherfuckers know you have the best ears in the game and it's great to hear that.
Speaker 1:But I agree.
Speaker 2:How can I quantify that? You know what I mean. How can I quantify? That you know what I mean. How can I put that shit in my bank account my way? You know what I mean Absolutely.
Speaker 1:It needs to make sense. No, I mean I get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and adding on to that, I have the best ears in the game, right, and I ain't heard nobody. I hear shit. It's not like I'm not. And I ain't heard nobody. I hear shit. It's not like I'm not listening. I ain't heard a motherfucker since Soundtrack. Yeah, shouts to Soundtrack and that's going on five years now.
Speaker 1:And before I heard Soundtrack.
Speaker 2:it was like two years. So Soundtrack is the only person that turned my ears in seven years, and I have the best ears in the game. Quote, unquote. So that's not about me missing some shit. That's about a space that has grown where nothing exists. I can't lower my ceiling, I can't lower my bar. You, bro, y'all be sending me shit and it's cool.
Speaker 1:You say y'all, it's cool, y'all be sending me shit and it's cool.
Speaker 2:You say y'all it's cool, y'all be sending me shit, it's cool. But like it's cool. But like, listen bro, I was walking next to Jay and Jay was not the only ill motherfucker in the city. I was walking next to all the ill motherfuckers in the city fucking damn near 30 years ago, like motherfuckers that were making music that has existed in the world for 30 years now and this is frustrating. You know, I thought jay was 10 years ahead. He's been dead 18 years and ain't nobody even yeah, you know what I mean I know, and that is and it's frustrating.
Speaker 2:It's not like me carrying this fucking flag, it's like no, motherfucker, I'm about the music. I'm not on no corny shit, I'm about the music. You gotta bust my motherfucking head open. I've heard everything.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean and none of this are your ears. Are your ears shot?
Speaker 2:hell not. Okay, my ears will never be shot, they're golden okay, yeah, okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I've always been the hardest egg to crack, like judging, beat battles and shit like yeah, but you look at the other judges and it's like, did you just hear what the fuck I heard? Like what are you talking about? That shit suck it.
Speaker 1:Uh. Yeah, I mean boy, some of these beat battles bro. Oh my god, I mean what's so all? Right, so so what are you looking forward to? Uh like moving forward with my kids my kids coming over next weekend okay, I mean music.
Speaker 2:Come on, bro, music, music, music wise does anything hiatus coyote okay uh, fucking, whatever other shit I've been pre-ordered in the last six months that I can't even remember. You know what I mean? I'm still on and I'm still topping records. I'm on it, but I mean hiatus coyote. That's it right now probably super dope, sorry yeah and I'm looking forward to hearing uh rhapsody shit. I want to hear soundtrack shit on there what about pete rock in common? I'm managing my expectations.
Speaker 1:Okay, me too, bro, me too.
Speaker 2:Like I got to keep it a buck. Man Like Common's fucking fantastic Pete Rock is fucking Jesus Christ. You know what I mean. Yeah, but I'm not trying to get my fucking feelings hurt every day, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. You know what? There's nothing.
Speaker 2:The single was cool, the leaker was cool.
Speaker 1:But you know it was cool, it was in pocket.
Speaker 2:It's cool. It wasn't whack. It wasn't whack, but it wasn't. Oh my God, Hip hop is coming back. That shit is. So I can't count.
Speaker 1:A lot of people said that bro.
Speaker 2:So because it sounds like 20 years bro because it sounds like something that was made 20 years ago. Yeah, it doesn't sound.
Speaker 3:It's 20 years since then, I know I, I, I agree with you, I react, react, react agrees with you, that's why jay's shit was so crazy?
Speaker 2:because it was 10 years ahead. It was, and now we're seeing it was 18 years ahead. At least it's not 25 or whatever. The fuck, motherfucker, somebody caught up. I need to hear the future, I don't want to hear the past.
Speaker 3:Really. This is why I fuck with you, Shoes.
Speaker 2:But I have this reputation for being a fucking asshole. And if that makes me an asshole because I'm not afraid to tell you how I fucking feel about something right I'm not about you, ain't gonna. You know, a yes man is the most hoe-ass, motherfucking thing on this earth.
Speaker 1:Tell me about it, you know what I mean and that a yes man is the most hoe ass motherfucking thing on this earth.
Speaker 2:Tell me about it. You know what I mean and that's a yes man is why you hear whack records.
Speaker 1:That's true, that's true. So you said highest coyote. I mean, yeah, nobody else moving the meter.
Speaker 2:I mean bro, I mean nothing else is coming to mind, not one.
Speaker 1:you know what I mean like, I mean, and there's so many creatives out with you in la right now, so I know I mean your ear.
Speaker 3:Your ear is definitely to the street yeah I know that oh uh, going back to hiatus, coy, I'm looking at their website. Which vinyl did you pre-order?
Speaker 2:I just got the blue one.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:It makes sense with the cover and shit. I don't buy colored vinyl usually I like black records, but they don't have a black record. No.
Speaker 3:They got the blue joint, the green joint, black records. But they don't have a black record. No, they got the blue joint, green joint, they got a blue marble joint and then, like a sand marble, uh marble joint, the artwork's fire too yeah, yeah, they're fucking wow, I have no clue what happened to my camera I still gotta listen to this new mozzie toy.
Speaker 2:I got that shit the other day. Mozzie's great and like I've seen like three or four clips off of this shit, he's fucking killing that shit, yo shoes.
Speaker 3:Do you remember the dominoes, gremlin?
Speaker 2:the dominoes gremlin? Nah, I mean, I had it in my fucking stomach the other night that motherfucker crawled out my motherfucking asshole oh man, how come I can't pull this up?
Speaker 3:it says somebody's sharing the screen. Oh man, I'll put a damn, it's all right I?
Speaker 2:do I fuck? I fuck with that new rock marciology though marciology record, I do fuck with that. Yeah, you got me peeking through my fucking download folder. Marv one's new shit is crazy.
Speaker 3:Okay, it's a really good like he finally made a fucking I've been telling him to make a load folder. Marv1's new shit is crazy. Okay, I saw.
Speaker 2:Marv. He finally made a fucking. I've been telling him to make a human record, a human album, for like 10, 15 years and he finally made one. Fuck all that tough guy shit, super dope, I have no clue what the fuck happened to my camera.
Speaker 3:I fucking hate this shit. Fuck man, it doesn't matter, let's just finish. No, I know did you drop your legos I did.
Speaker 1:What did he do?
Speaker 2:he dropped his legos I did.
Speaker 1:I don't give a shit. I have no clue. I have no clue what happened to my fucking camera, but it's all good. Um, I mean what else, man? I mean shit I just, you know, with shoes. I'm just telling you right now, man, like I I'm still on that shit.
Speaker 3:All right it's over, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying it's over, I'm just not no, not you, just the topic, because street corner, because street corner is music is never gonna be any better than it already is I, I, I think it could understand what I'm saying maybe you need some a and r's it's my fucking I'm.
Speaker 2:Are you kidding me? Street corner music is my shit, bro. I don't share tables with anybody. I am the fucking table. You know what I mean. Talk that shit Like. What do you bring to the table? I'm like bitch a table.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Like.
Speaker 2:I'm selfish, bro. I don't make beats with other people, you know what I mean. Like I'm a very solitary creative. Like I make the record, I pick all the beats, I sequence them, I design the artwork and give it to a graphic designer. You know what I mean. Like it's all me, so me saying that street corner music will never be anymore. It's 82 records, bro. If it's 83, it's not. Like. The last record I put out is fucking mike and keys. You feel me?
Speaker 2:yeah and I'm sitting on 500 of them. Yeah, I'm exhausted, but the documents are there. The receipts are there for everybody. You know what I mean. I could do 50 more records on street corner music. It won't be better than what it is right now. It's going to be my shit. Just put 50 more records on it. I understand.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean records on it, I understand.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I do, I'm just saying like I don't know. I mean, like what you had was what you have is great. You know what I'm saying. And there's a lot, there are a lot of really dope people out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they're not house shoes dope.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No, I get it.
Speaker 2:You know it's disheartening because it's not like the shit is whack, it's just like, eh, that shit's cool, but it sounds like what 17 other people did yesterday.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. So your ears are fried. They're not when I hear it. I don't know. When you hear me talk about somebody you're gonna be like, oh shit, who the fuck is this? You see the value that that holds when I don't just accept any cool little beat, making motherfucker, like the value that my name holds when speaking of new artists has that value because I don't fuck with none of this shit right, so it's always been like that so, with that being said, shouts the motherfucking soundtrack because yeah, man, but I knew it too, with with track too.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying um incredible guy yeah you know um he raised the ceiling oh man you know what I mean yeah, and that's, that's that's what it is. You know? Singularities, bro. I need singularities. None of these motherfuckers are singularities.
Speaker 1:They all sound like each other um, I, I mean jim, I mean jim matter, I mean I put her album out bro.
Speaker 2:I put it out you know I'm fucking.
Speaker 1:She's so dope though yes, she is.
Speaker 2:I'm not the finish line for nobody bro okay I just I'm trying.
Speaker 1:I'm trying.
Speaker 2:I just want to create. It's like all the paint ran out. I like making paintings, but all the good paint is gone and I'm not about to start making watercolors. I don't make watercolors.
Speaker 3:That's a great analogy.
Speaker 2:Everybody got watercolors. You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean.
Speaker 3:And my fucking camera's gone. I don't. I have no clue, that's okay it's the domino, the dominoes. Gremlin got that motherfucker I know right, shoes, shoes.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, look up the dominoes gremlin when you're right now yeah, look it up right now yeah, for some reason I can just, I'm just thinking about the for the people who are, for the people who are listening to that, the Ghoulies movie poster. Bro, the Ghoulie coming out of the toilet.
Speaker 3:Wait, this motherfucker looks like he's going to come out your toilet. One of the creepiest fucking mascots I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, it wasn't creepy, it was just stupid.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and he was just stupid yeah and he was like mad.
Speaker 2:He was mad, stupid, but it did feel like borderline like he might be evil.
Speaker 3:You know what I? Mean oh, he's evil yeah, fucking.
Speaker 2:Who runs these fucking agencies, bro, and who okays this shit?
Speaker 1:who okays chica at KFC oh my god, hey, alright, I do have a question for you, okay, because?
Speaker 2:it better not be about street corner music it's not we are moving on, fellas right um is there?
Speaker 1:is there any?
Speaker 2:I mean like currently this is kind of a sequence I'm just saying man like man, I'm saying cats is dope. Like you know, there's a lot of dope cats, but I mean, I'm not not not for you to put out, but alright, so if Shoes is doing a gig Country and Heavy was over here fucking cooking on Friday. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Shouts to Country and Heavy to Bluebird.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. They cook, yeah, but. I just don't care anymore. You know what I mean mean do you hear that react?
Speaker 1:we're never, we're never, we're never going over there to cook because I want my shit to fall on deaf ears no, it's not that it's gonna fall on.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I just don't give a. It's not your fault. You ain't getting the record. I'm over over it, you know what. I mean.
Speaker 3:Shoes Going back to your point about how you only endorse motherfuckers who are dope right To you. So I knew nothing about this dude Mike. Nothing.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Absolutely nothing, Until you brought it up on the show. And that's what I was going to say. I was going to say, cause this shit is. This shit is crazy.
Speaker 1:I was gone for a tad on the way back, dummy. If you talk about getting paid back, dummy, why are you trying to hang? You should say that money in my same bag, yeah.
Speaker 3:This shit is crazy. Hey, I had no idea he existed until you mentioned it.
Speaker 1:Hold on hold on. I'm having a brain fart. Who was that again?
Speaker 2:Mike, mike, fucking fantastic. So listen to this.
Speaker 1:So I've had Mike, Mike, what Mike?
Speaker 2:Just Mike, just Mike. So listen. So, just like I said, I'm over. Putting like this is how staunch I am with my shit. I've had like three favorite. I call them like my three secrets, and it's like no one has infiltrated that spot and joined them in five years. And that's Lord Juco from Toronto, pistol McFly from out here and Tree from Chicago, and those are just three and it's three different flavors. Pause Three. Like the batting I hate sports but I fuck with batting averages. You know what I mean. Like consistency, yeah, and them motherfuckers are so solid and I got hit to them like five years ago and no one else has been so consistently solid as them to even move into that space. Yeah, you know what I mean. This shit ain't necessary. I mean there's a lot more options than there used to be, but it's not necessarily getting better, it's just more options.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:And I need a motherfucker that I can't figure out. Like immediately you hear something I don't have, aers send me records and then you know, they email me the record and then it sounded really good on Instagram, you know, with the visuals, and then you listen to it and it's like, oh man, you're fucking rapping you're rapping exactly like Kendrick Lamar, like you're rapping exactly like Kendrick Lamar and it's like I'm not playing, that I don't give a fuck. Okay, I got kendrick lamar records. You know what I mean yeah it's just so much, so much.
Speaker 2:Uh, everything's so derivative, it's so yeah yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:It is, and I I honestly feel like um we there's always exceptions.
Speaker 2:I don't like I shouldn't say every everything, but you know, a lot of this shit is just identical it is, it is and um it um.
Speaker 1:Like I said the I said before that the internet is the gift and the curse man. I kind of wish that that, that we didn't have the access to oh, absolutely the music.
Speaker 2:we used to rush to the record store to spend money, yep.
Speaker 1:Right, right, and that's what I do, like I even fall victim. We talk about the Pete Rock and Common shit. That record, the first record, wasn't even a full record. They didn't give us the full record. And I'm the guy on the other end that's like yo, can we get the fucking whole record? Can you release the record? And they're not doing it. And it was like yo, we're gonna give you another teaser and then, yeah, wait till this shit is done.
Speaker 2:Man Don't get geeked, you got one and rush that shit out, unless you got that whole pack coming.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I admire that, though I mean I mean that's how it was. I mean it built up um the excitement, for it was just something, man.
Speaker 2:It just used to be so many flavors, bro. You know what I mean. And now it's like I've been catching myself telling people like all the whack shit sounds the same. All the whack shit sounds like each other. All the mediocre shit sounds like each other and all the best shit sounds like each other. All the mediocre shit sounds like each other and all the best shit sounds like each other. Yeah, like there's no, there's no singularities, there's nobody really pushing envelopes and you know, once again, there's always exceptions. Don't fucking be in a comments like a bitch. What about this motherfucker? What about that motherfucker? It is, it is what it is.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean I told, I told that I mean, like I said, um, we, we talked about the, um, the naz primo shit. Um, I, I mean, I, I personally wanted something different and and and it doesn't mean that I don't like the shit, I fucking. Both of them are gods, they're both gods, but you don't like to shit.
Speaker 2:I don't like to shit it's not a good record. It's not a good record for like, for like, two people that we've never heard of right you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So let alone they set the bar so high it's fucking so frustrating no I know, and I was trying to tell my friend, I know I mean, and this is, this is all good man, because that's what worries me, bro?
Speaker 2:because it's like I've, I've, I'd be scared about losing my ears. I still got my motherfucking ears, yeah.
Speaker 1:And it's like like, how does primo not know that that shit ain't good man I was telling my, I was telling my my bro, and I was like y'all gonna get me yelled at this bitch, but no, no, no, because I'm out 600 fucking primo records in this house right now.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No, I'm, I'm with you and we are, we are team fucking primo and naz man. I just feel like I mean, and it's okay because it's all subjective, um, I just felt like it was a super safe record, like I felt like we deserved more right, right, hey, somebody racing over there what the fuck was that?
Speaker 2:it's like a it's like a place it was like a placeholder. It was like a will, we will be right back, or some shit. You know what I mean yeah, I mean like we don't have we don't have what we should have right now, but keep paying attention like watch this space.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we're talking about super. I mean the Illmatic records we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Illmatic was 30 years ago.
Speaker 1:The Stillmatic records.
Speaker 2:You can't even say Stillmatic after Illmatic. No, no, no, but I'm talking about the Second Childhood, fucking amazing.
Speaker 1:One of the best songs ever in my life. Oh, I just noticed something. Oh, that's what?
Speaker 3:I'm talking about, like the bar oh, I just noticed, I just noticed something. Oh, I'm dropping shit, sorry.
Speaker 2:Second Childhood's on the fucking record.
Speaker 3:Second Childhood was incredible, but Shoes I'm talking about. Wait, hold on, Eddie, Hold on Shoes. Did you ask me about? Hate Me Now because of the.
Speaker 2:It's on the B-side.
Speaker 3:Don't play that record. What?
Speaker 2:Isn't the second child on the B side?
Speaker 3:Oh of Hate Me Now no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no, no, I'm tripping. It was a B side in one of the 12.
Speaker 3:No, I was asking you. Did you ask me about Hate Me Now before, because I have the vinyl on my wall?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to be like why does he have that record on his wall?
Speaker 3:Oh, oh my God, I was like that one.
Speaker 2:That's the one you picked up. Clearly, I don't play it if it's on my wall. Oh, thank god, that's. The only excuse I'll say is that, if that's the reason you put it up there, I mean, it's one of them I'm gonna put this on my wall so I never have to listen I just, I just, I just want it.
Speaker 1:I wanted something um better than um. Now is this like and like, I gave you power, or you don't say you wanted something better than that, because I did want something better.
Speaker 2:I wanted something okay, okay, okay, you wanted something better yeah did you actually expect that you were gonna get something better?
Speaker 2:no, because I'm answering it for myself why would you feel that way, like, why would you expect something better? Like primo's got some cool joints, but like, come on, bro, like lately you know what I mean like some of the resultant shit's, dope, um, but man fuck like you, what is he giving you to make you think that you're going to hear a record that's better than any of those records you just mentioned? That's why I guard my expectations, bro. My expectations is the only thing.
Speaker 1:We might have to edit this whole shit right in this whole segment. No, not at all. I fucking love both of them. Man, I just like man like damn like bro.
Speaker 2:There's conversations on the internet everywhere about how whack the song is. You're not the only one I mean. And why should we edit some shit when we're?
Speaker 1:we're not editing that shit.
Speaker 2:I mean, and it's not to start once again. You know it's not to stir shit up. It's yeah, it's not a good record and we're talking about it and it's dialogue that's what we do.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, we do. It's a fucking podcast. We talk about the shit's doing it and we're not fucking scared.
Speaker 2:We're not scary bitches. You know what I mean like I ain't.
Speaker 1:It was kind of like the record was a little, it was buns bro no, it was fucking horrible.
Speaker 2:I'll tell you some real shit, bro. I've turned that bitch off about 30 seconds in you know, I turned it off.
Speaker 1:When it, when the shit, I thought, when it, when it, when the, when the Bismarck-y shit just said Nas, I was like it didn't even echo, there was no quarter verb on it.
Speaker 3:It sounded like it was just fucking, like Shu said, like a rush record, like oh shit, it's a 30 year anniversary, we got to put something out.
Speaker 2:But do you see my genius, my motherfucking genius? We do that's why I should get checks, bro, cause, like New York State of Mind Part 3, could you imagine if they dropped New York like Primo ain't gonna, primo's not gonna fuck up. New York State of Mind Part 3. If that was the assignment, we would've got that record. And that's me casually thinking about that shit. As soon as I heard the record, I was like it should have been New York State of Mind part 3. It's the 30th anniversary of Illmatic.
Speaker 1:That would have the streets on fucking fire, bro come on, man get your fucking dog out, the hey, you better not have no peanut butter over there motherfucker, you got peanut butter over there, homie come on, dude you got that young PB and J.
Speaker 3:Eddie's got his dog on his lap getting fucking that's great man.
Speaker 1:She ain't on the podcast she rolled up on me like I know. She rolled up on me like yo, what's up?
Speaker 2:you know I'm white so I do shit at like family events, like let dogs eat food out of my mouth.
Speaker 1:She's that is some real white shit but she's a puppy though she's still got though she's a puppy, she's still got innocent puppy breath and shit. That's great.
Speaker 2:Get out of here. Put some treats in your mouth.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing that, man Pause.
Speaker 3:He's got the jar of peanut butter to the side. You can't see it.
Speaker 2:It's so much peanut butter. Oh my god, he got like the little. Like they got the jelly packs, he got peanut butter packs.
Speaker 1:I got a whole bunch of peanut butter stuff in the freezer for her, though that's all good man, this has been great Once again like hold on, hold on, wait, wait, we got more.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, just on the topic of peanut butter chunky or not chunky never oh no never chunky gross right or or crunchy I mean chunky, chunky, chunky is crunchy, it's the same shit yeah, no crunchy, that's serial killer food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's nasty If you eat crunchy peanut butter.
Speaker 2:You a serial killer.
Speaker 1:No nuts on your bread.
Speaker 2:Only if it's butter.
Speaker 1:As we all look in the cameras, we all have serial killer glasses. Correct, that's correct. You never know.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You never know you got the.
Speaker 3:MC search joints Eddie.
Speaker 2:Hey, watch your mouth. Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about me.
Speaker 3:Nah Shoes definitely got some serial killer glasses. Nah shoes could see New York with those fucking things.
Speaker 2:Hey man, it's so frustrating, bro, how we just go to shit. I had perfect fucking vision my entire life and then, like four years ago, bro, I had a stack of download cards that had been building up from, like opening albums and listening to them, and one day I'm like I'm gonna download all these fucking records and I couldn't read none of that shit, bro. I was like I thought I was having a stroke or some shit I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:and I just kept moving it back and back and I still couldn't read that. I was like I had perfect vision. Last time I did this yeah, my my father's getting old.
Speaker 1:My father said you just wait. When you. My father told me 40, he said when you turn, you just wait when you turn 40. It wasn't 40, but it was definitely. I was going across the fucking uh tapping z bridge and and to what you just said, shoes, I felt like I was having a fucking stroke. I was like yo, I fucking can't see like what the fuck is going. It happened like that crazy react. It was crazy and then I almost had a fucking panic attack and shit, I was like man yeah, you know I can't see, when I wake up in the morning, I can't see shit.
Speaker 3:It's like my vision is worse in the morning. I don't know that's because I'm like not like awake yet, or I just I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:I can see that I can't see shit when I'm sleepwalking.
Speaker 3:That's what you basically said I guess, oh my god shit.
Speaker 2:I went to the doctor last week. I got fucking anemia. I'm pre-diabetic. This, this, this shit is trash.
Speaker 1:It's not funny, but man listen, you have to talk to me because I was pre-diabetic and then I was not and then now I am. But I don't know if I am now because I've been doing the right thing for the last three months.
Speaker 2:So what's the?
Speaker 1:right kick it oh, you just gotta. You gotta limit your sugar bro period like uh bread and um. You know just we can't just don't eat anything that I already eat exactly like you mean the croissant that I ate before I came to record the show, or the Domino's pizza that we fucking barked down last week.
Speaker 1:I shit that out already, though it's gone. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean React, you know. I mean like I've documented my shit, I live a keto lifestyle. Today I did have a burger. I had a burger with all the fixings because I needed to have everything Pause. But what happens tomorrow is I reset and it tricks my body again, and then another three days from now, I'll be in what they call ketosis.
Speaker 2:So you just go and like catch squirrels and eat them alive and shit, like I do I do.
Speaker 1:I'm just fucking relentless, me and a dog like clearly, you just eat. You see, bear meat I go for pigeons because it's they're the slowest in the hood eddie's the uh, the black liver king of white, new York. I hate liver. By the way, you guys like liver. No, I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 3:When I was little, you know what they used to fucking feed me Liverwurst.
Speaker 2:I used to have liverwurst sandwiches oh wait, fuck that, but I think I liked them, though Shoes.
Speaker 1:Shoes. I got to confirm that Shoes.
Speaker 2:Your family ate spam. I love spam, but then I was always. But you gotta fry that bitch. Yeah, you can fry the fuck out that bitch. I'll make like spam grilled cheese sandwiches and shit. That shit was fire, but the trick is you gotta boil the shit first. I just found this out like a year ago on youtube and shit because you know how salty this shit is, like it's good, but it's so it's fucking salty shit yeah so you boil it, you boil it and it boils off all that fucking crazy shit and then, you cook it after that that's wild.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that no, I mean listen yeah, what would you do if you went to like your homie's house and you say yo you're hungry, hungry yeah. We just boiled up some fucking spam.
Speaker 2:Well, you got to fry it after that. You ain't just eating a boiled spam.
Speaker 3:No, I know, but it's just like yeah, you hungry, I'm making some spam.
Speaker 2:Get some real I mean like yo, let's get crazy with it.
Speaker 1:Fucking spam, monhood man, cherry Hill, cherry Hill Apartments, syracuse, and they were making like a dude. Terry Webb was like him. His name was Terry Webb. He was like yo, my dude's not here. We got some fucking bologna and shit and it was like bologna and they would like fry the bologna and shit Fry bologna sandwiches.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's just gross Fry, but it's actually just like a big flat hot dog you know what I mean. It was it's like a hot dog. You dropped a safe on flat hot dog a flat, fucking flat hot dog.
Speaker 1:That's exactly what it was, man, and we was eating that shit we didn't have ketchup. It was like so to the next thing was fucking mayo and shit. You know we ate fucking peanut butter and syrup because we couldn't afford the jelly. It was sugar sandwiches. No, I'm just thinking about a fucking no wonder motherfuckers got fucking diabetes and shit.
Speaker 3:I was eating sugar sandwiches b I'm just thinking about a safe fucking falling on, falling on a hot dog that's standing up vertically and flattening that shit like a pancake like bugs, bunny shit oh my god, oh man you had some homies come over, they'd be like, hey, let's make some bologna sandwiches.
Speaker 3:And you'd be like, well, I just got these hot dogs, let's take the safe upstairs nah, you know the, you know the fucking, you know the, you know the presser, the iron presser, that you press the fucking the bacon with that's what you're fucking swishing. Yes, you think Biggie ate flat hot dogs, probably at one point in his life.
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I mean, I had bologna and cheese sandwiches in my lunchbox all the time and shit.
Speaker 1:Every day, Motherfucker. You have peanut butter and fluff, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Don't sleep on fluff and nutters. Bro, fluff and nutters, slap See reacted Fluff and nutters.
Speaker 2:He put nothing in my mouth called a fluff and nutter bro, that's never going in my digestive tract.
Speaker 1:Shoes is from the D. I'm not going to have a fluffernutter bro, it's never going in my digestive tract. Shoes is from the D. I'm not going to have a fluffernutter.
Speaker 2:I'm not having that shit go in my mouth and I'm not having it come out my ass after it gets digested.
Speaker 3:I'm saying you eat flat bologna though, flat hot dogs.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't, I did when I was like nine years old.
Speaker 1:Listen, motherfuckers, we're all eating. We all ate Domino's pizza. Within the last week, that is a fact Domino's man the greatest pizza and respectively at all. I mean, we're in New York and then LA got great pizza and we ate fucking Domino's.
Speaker 2:You know all that shit's from fucking Michigan too, right? Domino's from Michigan, Little Seasons from Michigan, Fucking all that shit I get it you know. So tom tom monaghan, oh, this is an interesting story. Tom monaghan owned domino's pizza and they designed that pizza box with the corners that fold in oh yeah yeah, but he never patented it, so he lost. He lost like probably 50 million million for not patenting that fucking pizza box.
Speaker 1:Well, is Coney Island still in the D?
Speaker 2:On every corner there's fucking 500 Coney Islands in Detroit, man.
Speaker 1:What the fuck that's Coney huh, coney Island bro 24 hours full menu.
Speaker 2:You know breakfast 24 hours.
Speaker 1:Dog, chili dogs fucking grilled chicken Peters okay, trust me, if you, if you're getting a colonoscopy the next day, all you do is eat that's my shit, man, that's my shit.
Speaker 2:I got the squeeze cheese spots. And then I got, you know, lafayette, my classic spot. Lafayette, my classic spot. Lafayette, coney Island downtown.
Speaker 1:I was about to say the best one's downtown. That's my favorite spot.
Speaker 2:Lafayette. If you go to American Coney Island, you're a bitch-ass motherfucker. That's right next door. So they're right next door to each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know right. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:I've been there before yeah, I've been there before bro, when the line was too long, yeah, I was like fuck that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not a good, oh man, I love detroit and uh, and I mean, that's it man. I mean, man, come on, man, like I'm, I'm gonna call you tomorrow how shoes and say are you sure about?
Speaker 2:if you ask me about street corner music, ever again I'm gonna I'm gonna just cut the stream off in the middle, all that shit you're good.
Speaker 1:You're good with uh not answering uh if I ask some stupid shit I am yeah, you get. You get no reply you got a folder.
Speaker 2:You got a folder to finish going through while you're asking for more records, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I mean, we'll play a joint off Street, corner 2, on the way out, of course.
Speaker 2:Motherfuckers man man.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much, brother, hey man.
Speaker 2:Until next time man do this again do it again absolutely fucking tomorrow exactly we should just have a live stream. That just goes. We're just linked in with each other 24 hours a day. We just experience our lives together. You know it's the youtube show.
Speaker 1:I am fucking down with that. Showers and shit doesn't matter. Anyway, my old lady's leaving me anyway.
Speaker 2:So forever, oh yeah, probably oh, okay, well, yeah, we got more time maybe yeah, hey, knock on wood homie.
Speaker 1:Look at React.
Speaker 3:He's like huh, he's like.
Speaker 1:Eddie, don't give a shit, that's all right, I just used my name in third person, it's okay, eddie, turn that shit up.
Speaker 3:Who can't hear this?
Speaker 1:shit. What the fuck man?
Speaker 3:Where's the volume? I was waiting for you to fucking do you know? I thought you were going to do an outro.
Speaker 1:Ladies and gentlemen. Man, it's been great. Thank you. House Shoes at the Chop Shop yeah.
Speaker 3:Follow us on Instagram at OfficialChopShopPod, please, that's right. And on YouTube, OfficialChopShopPod. Make sure you follow fucking Howe Shoes too. Make sure you listen to the fucking stream.
Speaker 1:And that's it.
Speaker 3:That's all I got. Yeah, that's it. And this is off Shouts to Mike and Keys too. This is off Street Corner Music. What?
Speaker 2:was the name of his album.
Speaker 3:Again Shoes. What was the name of his joint?
Speaker 2:I can't hear shit y'all saying that's the music.
Speaker 3:What was the name of Mike and Key's album?
Speaker 2:Still can't hear shit you're saying Loud ass music.
Speaker 1:What was the song?
Speaker 2:That's how it is whenever you play the beat.
Speaker 1:Can you hear me? Nope.
Speaker 3:Alright. Well, guess what? You know what?
Speaker 1:We'll just go Alright man, it's been great people.
Speaker 3:Alright, thank you.