Ever hear about a podcast episode filled with laughs, faith, and a bit of good-natured betrayal? Well, no more suspense! We had a ball recording this episode, reflecting on our journey and celebrating the fantastic response to our YouTube stream of the podcast. But, as they say, every rose has its thorns, we experienced a tiny prick when Matt betrayed us for another podcast - all in good fun, of course!
We took on the impressive AI-powered language model, Chat GPT. The aim? For Chat GPT to guess our thoughts with yes or no answers! You'll never believe the result.
But it's not all play, we delve into serious matters too. In anticipation of Junior Soldier Sunday, we discuss the importance of investing in kids from an early age, and how this nurtures a solid foundation of faith. We get personal too, talking about our names as identity markers. We wrapped up reminiscing on nostalgic band pieces and worship songs from the 90s. Remember those? The power of music to stir emotions and memories is truly amazing. And hey, holidays are around the corner! So buckle up for an unforgettable ride of fun, faith, and nostalgia!
Ever hear about a podcast episode filled with laughs, faith, and a bit of good-natured betrayal? Well, no more suspense! We had a ball recording this episode, reflecting on our journey and celebrating the fantastic response to our YouTube stream of the podcast. But, as they say, every rose has its thorns, we experienced a tiny prick when Matt betrayed us for another podcast - all in good fun, of course!
We took on the impressive AI-powered language model, Chat GPT. The aim? For Chat GPT to guess our thoughts with yes or no answers! You'll never believe the result.
But it's not all play, we delve into serious matters too. In anticipation of Junior Soldier Sunday, we discuss the importance of investing in kids from an early age, and how this nurtures a solid foundation of faith. We get personal too, talking about our names as identity markers. We wrapped up reminiscing on nostalgic band pieces and worship songs from the 90s. Remember those? The power of music to stir emotions and memories is truly amazing. And hey, holidays are around the corner! So buckle up for an unforgettable ride of fun, faith, and nostalgia!
Hi everyone, welcome back to the Plugged In podcast. Hello, good to be back. It's always good to be back. This is episode number 12. 12. Oh yeah, episode number 12 in total for season number 2, this is episode 3. This is also 3 episodes in a row that we have recorded in the same location.
Speaker 3:This is record.
Speaker 1:This is new record here. That's an all time record.
Speaker 2:I would say it's nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you can't tell on the YouTube stream. We are really, really squeezed in here.
Speaker 3:We are as cased into this little location, I think, as we can be.
Speaker 1:But it's starting to feel like home. It's nice. You guys got any open thoughts, or should I just roll right away?
Speaker 3:Oh, I would just like to say go jets. Oh, sorry, boys, sorry.
Speaker 1:So it will be funny when this airs like 2 weeks from now, and it will have lost 2 weeks in a row.
Speaker 3:Me.
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying whenever this airs it's not really I mean. So the jets won yesterday, which in reality was October 29th. I guess this is airing this Friday we're behind schedule.
Speaker 3:Rush, we had a little bump in the schedule. Oh right, you cancelled on us. You had a sick child.
Speaker 1:That's fair.
Speaker 3:The day was crazy.
Speaker 1:So we did?
Speaker 3:we had to bump out of recording.
Speaker 1:So we're a little behind schedule. We are recording today is actually Monday, october 30th. This episode is coming out. You guys will. It's going to drop on Friday.
Speaker 3:Whatever?
Speaker 1:Friday is November.
Speaker 3:Third Third.
Speaker 1:Maybe In my experience with these things long pauses of silence are not great.
Speaker 2:November 3rd, starting off strong.
Speaker 1:All right, well, I just have an opening thought. A couple of weeks ago, or weekends ago, we had the kickoff to youth arts ministry.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:It felt like a good day.
Speaker 3:It was really a good day.
Speaker 1:We had some changes with our schedule. The older kids got to pick two majors instead of one and it just seemed like it gave them a little bit more energy, more focus, more fun kind of all around. And I will say, one of the heroes of the day, captain Nate Heinzman, no way Hero. Kept, kept, kept, kept, kept kept.
Speaker 3:Wow, just blew out the microphone. Did not know what to do with that.
Speaker 1:Captain Nate was the replacement for my replacement and really stepped in at the last hour. Really the evening before I was literally sitting on the floor.
Speaker 2:So I was your last choice In the hallway.
Speaker 1:You weren't my first choice.
Speaker 2:No, Nate, you're always my first choice Caught up from the practice squad.
Speaker 1:The band love no, he stepped right in and took over the game time for the nine to twelve year olds and, literally on like an eight hours of notice, he was able to play some awesome games with the kids and, captain, I think I feel like you were born for that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:That was so weird, you calling him Captain. Captain, that was so weird. Well, we saw how desperate you know of a situation it was when you were just camped out on the ground.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:I was just like sitting on the floor in the hallway at the HQ.
Speaker 1:Guys, what do I do? Walking past Hands?
Speaker 2:Tissue box Just crying yeah, it was, I was okay let's revise that.
Speaker 1:I was not crying, there was no tissues, I was trying to figure out what to do, but no, nate stepped in and it was awesome. On top of that, it was interesting. There's a lot of officers and helpers at YAM on Saturdays and they do a fantastic job. One thing every time we record an episode, I kind of like say to you guys, like you know what's our listenership like, what's our listenership like man, I cannot.
Speaker 3:It is Monday, I don't know, and again no coffee Word.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I just like with every episode I'm just like you know, should we keep going? Like you know who's listening and stuff like that, and we have stats and everything. But it was very unique on Saturday at YAM. It was just like unprompted, without asking people. I think the YouTube podcast this season is a big hit. Yeah, because a lot of people are tuning in. They'd rather watch the videos than just listen on Spotify or Apple, whatever it is. But just a couple of people had some really nice things to say and it's always encouraging. I think it helps us keep going. Yeah, and yeah, it's fun for us to do, but it's even more fun when people say they are actually listening.
Speaker 3:I know I'm like wow, other people find us funny too. It's like it's encouragement there.
Speaker 2:On Friday night at a Friday night fellowship, which was a great time. Captain Jeff Brunel and Lily Brunel both commented on the limitations or Taylor Swift segment.
Speaker 3:Got some Swifties out there.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that was a hit.
Speaker 1:When I listened back to that and I had to listen, so when I edit these episodes I have to listen to each segment like quite a few times and I was just like man. This is so embarrassing Because I did roll the tape back. Nate got every single one right. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Did you cheat when I was putting that together?
Speaker 1:I was rolling around like 35%, like it was real bad.
Speaker 3:Well, at some point you were answering so quick. I'm like do you know, or is this just like a guess?
Speaker 2:No, the Lord revealed it to me.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, so ridiculous.
Speaker 2:I don't know. Anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Well, that's it for my opening thoughts. You guys have anything I feel like?
Speaker 3:Oh, I already said mine, so I'm good.
Speaker 1:Well, you said you had a bone to pick with me.
Speaker 3:Oh, I do. I felt slighted and cheated to hear that our very own Matthew Lund sat behind a different microphone and gave his thoughts to a different podcast.
Speaker 2:I think, this is where the camera cuts away from Matt. The one Matt.
Speaker 3:Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Matt was very, he was very upfront about it and he texted us and said hey guys. I really just want to let you know Yep, you know it wasn't. We weren't blindsided by it, and our response was Matt, you are the Taylor Swift in this situation. They need you to up their ratings.
Speaker 1:No, I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3:To be fair, I that was not my response. You were like Matt, it's fine, you can do it, and I was like no, I don't think this is a good idea.
Speaker 1:That's a really good impression of Nate.
Speaker 3:Can you do that again?
Speaker 1:Matt, it's fine. No, okay, so all right. I did go on another podcast this week. I was at a territorial headquarters for a conference of the music directors all week long and on Wednesday, after the New York staff band Rousals, they do a weekly podcast called Talk of Ages, and you can't be. It can't be too much of a bone to pick. Your father was on the podcast, like last week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but my father's on a host of this podcast.
Speaker 1:Okay, that is true, thank you. I'm going to ask you guys, and I said so is this cheating or are we good? So, yes, I was on the podcast, it was fun, but you'll be happy to know that, even though they did not ask me, I slipped in a plug for the plugged in podcast.
Speaker 3:I was going to ask.
Speaker 1:I think they were all kind of annoyed actually.
Speaker 3:Seriously.
Speaker 1:Well, they were just like whoa. There it is Like so no, it's interesting, there's a great outside of this podcast. So if you want to talk of, ages is the name of the podcast and it is rooted in humor. I mean if you want to like laugh to till you're crying. Mark Baker and Matt Hudson two of the funniest human beings that I've ever For sure, for sure. It's almost like when you're in the room, you feel like you're competing, but you can't.
Speaker 3:You just can't. Oh my gosh, I'd be like sitting in a seat of anxiousness like trying to come up with the next funny story because we just couldn't yeah they're next level and it's great, so it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:The other podcast that comes to mind in this part and these parts the Wild. West, in these parts.
Speaker 3:In these parts.
Speaker 1:No, have you ever listened to? Drew Forster has a podcast called the Creator Podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, have you listened to that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so he's several seasons into that now, but his podcast is really interview based and really takes deep dives on people who are the creative type. So we're both of you.
Speaker 3:You were on that right and you were on that name yeah.
Speaker 1:So he's had far, far, far more interesting people than me and he's done a really good job with that. So if you're interested in either of those podcasts in addition to this one that's, talk of Ages is a New York staff band podcast and it is for banders. I mean it's like this composer, that piece, like it's, you know.
Speaker 3:That's what I have to like, like pass forward through a little bit to get to the funny stuff. The funny stuff, Because I'm like I don't even know what they're talking about.
Speaker 2:I feel like I would need to do my research beforehand so that I could have something of substance to offer to the conversation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's Talk of Ages and Drew Forster does the creator podcast. Both of them are quality products. Yeah for sure. So yeah, all right, lorena, you got something for us.
Speaker 3:I have a game, and Matt has no idea what it is, so this is even better. Okay, so we're going to play a game of heads up, and before we do anything, I need us to pick a category pop culture icons, maybe Matthew Newton icons, legends and stars is there?
Speaker 2:is there like a gardening slash, lawn care category, because he might get that one?
Speaker 3:no, there's no, let's just do icons, legends and stars. So how? What happens?
Speaker 1:I don't want to do this so embarrassing all the time, okay okay, it's not like just relax, take a deep breath.
Speaker 3:Okay, there, it is great job. So you're gonna hold, we're gonna okay, I'm not doing a great job at explaining. We're gonna pass my phone around. Okay, everyone gets one turn and you hold the phone, like this, above your head yep, and there's gonna be something displayed, and then the other two. So if it was me holding it, you too have to explain what's on my head, okay, okay, and so the person holding it is trying to guess yeah, and then I think you tip it up yeah, when it's correct okay we're gonna pass you just tip it down.
Speaker 3:Okay, let's do. Let's do. Icons, legends and stars.
Speaker 2:You know how I like to pass like a hundred times.
Speaker 1:I don't know pop culture, I don't know famous people want to do animals gone wild.
Speaker 3:I don't know, it's just an option or blockbuster movies.
Speaker 1:I don't care, just give me a blackbuster movies.
Speaker 2:It's gonna be easier. I'm gonna do.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna do icons, cuz I don't. I tried doing the superstars one. Like to test this out. It was really difficult okay oh, here we go.
Speaker 1:A little noise on for a get ready okay two okay, here we go oh, thank you 80s, 80s singer Whitney. Houston, no guy careless whisper oh, oh Michaels, george Michaels yeah, good job. Oh, I have no idea how to I'm not gonna win African-American woman pass.
Speaker 3:That might be totally wrong yeah, I'm already on the countdown all right, yeah, 80s again, I think. So I don't even know what to say all right, let's just okay, this is a trial round, okay wow, I don't know the person next.
Speaker 2:Oh, I don't know this is the worst of all time okay this is like my fair lady, classic actress.
Speaker 1:Audrey Hepburn different name, different first name other other Hepburn. Jim wow we just tore that up guys okay, let's try it.
Speaker 3:Let's try it. May you try a different category? That was terrible. Wait, not now it'll show what was that category?
Speaker 2:icons icons.
Speaker 3:So oh, billie Holiday. Michelle Pfeiffer yeah, 80s. Simmons, lisa, no, catherine Hepburn okay, wow man all right that was an all-timer that was like super bad.
Speaker 2:That was terrible okay okay, not, not because of you. Okay, so this pop culture acted out is pretty easy.
Speaker 3:I think it acted out well, it's just like it's easier things to describe, or who's next?
Speaker 2:I guess I'll go, nate will go and we'll close it out can I? Can I do animals gone wild, because I'm intrigued? Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 3:I'm curious and scared, yeah, okay please put your arm around the microphone. Get ready three push down so up is oh okay, elephant Dumbo yeah, down a plague of these little locusts yes, oh, it's hearing
Speaker 2:my voice.
Speaker 3:Oh, scarlett Johansson is black widow yeah wow this is good.
Speaker 1:Category a being us we are human, yes a spider with web.
Speaker 2:Not a mom, but a dad yeah spider and has really father, no tarantula, no think of a spider. Daddy, daddy, long leg.
Speaker 1:Yes, you can't say the word oh, pack a drug, a drug animal, a drug pack mule, no, yes you got it yeah oh not an alligator, but a crocodile yes oh, stop moving it.
Speaker 3:Black black duck yes it's doing it on its own. Oh, these things are savages and they like.
Speaker 2:They're long and green and this oh praying mantis, yeah little tiny guy ant yes all right.
Speaker 1:I guess, animals gone wild is.
Speaker 2:That is. That's our back, and we set it up for Matt, oh my goodness, we have that back. These animals are savages blowing out our microphones yeah, I saw.
Speaker 3:Sorry, I saw a video of a oh, they do like eat the yeah, like a massive spider it's the head off the mail or something. I don't know. All right, here's, here's the options, and you just click it and put it on your head okay, animals go wild.
Speaker 1:Icons, legend stars, pop culture superstars super stars was really difficult. I acted out blockbuster movies. Every one of these is gonna be just embarrassing how about? There's a kind of called just kidding. Yeah, alright, just kid. Is it like comedians, we don't know. Also just like a picture of kids, okay okay, get ready.
Speaker 3:On my forehead so it sounds like it's hearing us.
Speaker 2:So you don't need to move it ready oh videos social media platform a tiktok yes, yes okay, got it right we're wearing right now headphones. Yes, oh, this is a kind of form of movement with dance, rhythmic, rhythmic, yes but what things on on your, on your shoes that make a clacking?
Speaker 1:noise?
Speaker 3:oh, tap, tap yes wow, my brain stop oh this is a Wii game and you hold the Wii remote and bowling the song, that tennis the song dadadadoo do we tennis, we bowling, we golf but you use it and you follow the movements on the screen of the people and you, alright, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Wow, all right, if surprise, yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, oh, oh. Dan is a yo play is a? What brand of cereal?
Speaker 1:I didn't hear the first one. We're just gonna go play nope yogurt.
Speaker 2:Wow, it's over, it's good. Wow the first one.
Speaker 1:I'm really, really that's over. I'm sweating wait.
Speaker 3:The first one was the amazing world of gumball what is? I don't even know what that is yogurt. Yogurt was the last one well, well done everyone.
Speaker 1:Don't falsely build me up. That was awful.
Speaker 3:I mean, you got more than I got.
Speaker 1:But I had a really hard topic category I did yikes. Alright, nate, you're gonna move us into yeah the junior soldier ministry tip of the month is brought to you by captain Nathan Yolhain's man, yeah, yeah, good.
Speaker 2:Oh, did you want to provide some context?
Speaker 3:well, just so, the ministry tip for this month and the whole kind of thread or theme of this episode ties along with junior soldier Sunday, which is this upcoming Sunday, yep, november 4th, 5th, the 3rd, 4th 5th November 5th it's Monday day is it November 5th? Oh, it's Nate's favorite day ever, daylight savings time and not gonna lie, he thought that daylight savings was last Sunday.
Speaker 2:I was getting ready, I was tailgating and everything he said his like real, like clock back he was so ready.
Speaker 3:So November 5th, junior soldier Sunday, and so our devotional kind of revolve around the theme that the territory has rolled out for that, and then Nate has just a ministry tip about junior soldiers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just wanted to just help provide some resourcing and some clarity as to what junior soldiers is all about, what the aim of it is. And so junior soldiers is a is a discipleship program designed for children in your core, ages 7 to 13, and really any child who's been attending your core for a month can participate. They just want a ten consistent attendance of about a month and then you can jump in, and the whole purpose of junior soldiers is to help develop spiritual awareness, to increase Bible knowledge, to guide our young people in appropriate lifestyle to to the faith, and also to just provide some clarity as to what we believe in the Salvation Army, what our practices and principles and practices and principles are, and also to provide opportunities for leadership and participation in different aspects of leadership there's a lot of peas in that.
Speaker 3:I know a lot of peas.
Speaker 2:So if you are wondering about junior soldiers, where, where do I get a resource material? Where do I find everything from principal, principal, take-home lessons, take away packages? Salvation army youth org is your hub. You can go to salvation army youth org and from there there is an entire section devoted to junior soldiers. If you look through the packets that are listed there, the PDFs each lesson you'll see is is compiled in such a way that's very easy. It'll list a high-energy icebreaker game, a Bible lesson, a video component that goes with each lesson and then some fun printable worksheets that you can take away. And so I looked at the dashboard just today and they have lessons all the way through spring 2027 available there for for print and for review.
Speaker 2:For those individuals who aren't yet old enough to participate in junior soldiers or be enrolled as a junior soldier, they can take the totally his prep course, which is six lessons focusing on being totally focused, totally forgiven, totally obedient, totally devoted, totally clean and totally committed to God. And so we recognize that discipleship is a lifelong process and we want to invest in our young people early, because statistics will show that if we can introduce our children to Christ at an early age, the roots that are formed in those formative years are going to grow and they're going to produce seeds and they're gonna help keep them rooted and anchored to the faith and to the church. And then, for those who have been doing junior soldiers for a while, there is also an opportunity called honor junior soldiers. To be an honor junior soldier, you must be at least 10 years old, you must be a enrolled junior soldier for at least a year, attend the core, regularly participate in Sunday school and then complete the honor junior soldier course. Now the honor junior soldier course is.
Speaker 2:It's pretty, it's pretty thorough pretty yeah you learn salvation army doctrine, not just what we believe but why we believe it. What is the scriptural foundation behind what we believe in the salvation army. You dig deeper into scriptural truths, how to actually study the Bible, how to look into you, what it means to be a follower of Christ. Salvation army history, different distinctives, different symbols, terminology, things like that. And then, once you go through that course, you complete a test, we come out and we administer a test to you, and then there's also a project component that goes along with that. So a project component on focusing on Christian growth, the Bible and what would Jesus do. Projects service oriented. And so all of this is geared towards not just putting kids in a uniform right.
Speaker 2:That's not why we do what we do, but it's all geared towards letting our kids know that they are an important part of our church, that they can have ownership and say in the church and that they matter their lives matter to the kingdom, and that God looks at them and recognizes that they've been created to give back in such a unique, special way in the kingdom of God. And so any questions about junior soldier material can be directed to our department here, the youth department, and we'd love to help resource you, help to encourage you, help to come out and celebrate in enrollment If you have young people in your core who are gonna be enrolled as junior soldiers in the next few weeks or the months to come. And I just brought my junior soldier promise with me today, wow.
Speaker 3:Look at that little signature on there 11, 23, 1997. Hold it up. Hold it up, Proudly, Little Nate Heinsman.
Speaker 2:Little Nate Heinsman. Who is about? The same height as I am to this day, stop it. On 11, 23, 1997 at the Beaver Falls Pennsylvania core. It's awesome. I still have the Bible that I received on that date and, just looking, I hang this up in my office just as a reminder that I'm grateful for the people who took time to invest in me as a young person. Recognizing that I was a mess as a kid. Sometimes, as all kids are, we have our own craziness, our baggage.
Speaker 2:I'm a mess today, you know what I mean Like we're a mess, but the fact that people take time to invest in us and to see the value that is founded, knowing who Jesus is and living for him, and so just yeah, it's awesome. Take time to be intentional with your young people and it will continue to produce results for the kingdom in a powerful way.
Speaker 1:You were a junior soldier as well, Loretta. I was. Yeah, me too. I'm sure the curriculum has to be different by now, oh, it's much different. Yeah, we had to. I mean, we studied a lot of Salvationary history, we had to memorize the order of the generals.
Speaker 3:Yeah, did you do that. Yeah, do you still know?
Speaker 1:I only I got like Booth Higgins.
Speaker 3:Booth there's a song. Yeah, there's a song. I know Booth Higgins.
Speaker 1:Booth, there's a kitchen in there Kitchen or kitchens.
Speaker 3:Kitchen, kitchen, there's a kitchen somewhere right Kitchens Koontz.
Speaker 2:I don't know man.
Speaker 3:I'm with you. I go Booth, higgins, booth, statute limitations, yeah all right?
Speaker 2:No, but now they have some really cool like video components that have been developed. That that's cool. Not only are it more engaging, but also the representation in the video is pretty awesome. Kids can see individuals that look like them. Yeah, yeah, it's engaging.
Speaker 3:I think what they have done well in recent days with the junior soldier curriculum is it's you know kind of. You mentioned some of the things that they have, the pieces that are available for the teaching, but you can also plug in, you know, figure out what works best for you, like if you don't need a nice breaker, if it's the same kids all the time, or if you want, like you just pick what works when it comes to the stuff surrounding the actual material and the you know the substance of the lesson and then you just use what works and leave the rest and, you know, go from there. So it's kind of.
Speaker 1:I always think about. There's like I'll see some of those memes on the internet and the music spheres that I'm in Like they'll show a picture of the. Here's the Boston Symphony or Chicago Symphony, or even I've seen, I've seen Salvage 101, here's the New York staff band, and half the picture says like if you want this, you have to support this. And then it's a picture of like, like the worst sounding beginners you've ever heard, or whatever, but that's where it starts.
Speaker 1:And I think the applicable thing here for the Salvation Army is if you want our church to grow, you have to support programs like Junior Soldiers, youth Programs, music Programs like those things helps solidify our church family. And it's planting seeds, I mean so go ahead.
Speaker 2:As you were speaking, just one thing that reminded me. You know, we a salvation people. We believe salvation is. You know, it's not just this one time. We one time come to Jesus, we give our hearts over to Him, and then it's it. You know, it's all about also becoming more and more like Him, and so we want our young people not just to know Jesus but also to live out their faith, to grow in their faith and to hopefully make more disciples, and so that investment of coming alongside people and recognizing that discipleship is a lifelong process. The Salvation Army is very intentional about meeting our young people at an early age and having curriculum and programs and resources for them all the way up to adulthood and beyond, and so, yeah, invest in it, it's important.
Speaker 1:Thanks, nate. Well, we're gonna take a quick break here on the Plugged In podcast and then when we come back. We got a couple things. We have a guessing game with regards to identity deep fakes. I'll just throw it up. No, I'll save it. We'll save it after the break and then Larita give us a tiny little preview of our devotional thought for today.
Speaker 3:We're gonna be talking about identity, continuing that theme, and what it actually means to be and to be called Children of God.
Speaker 1:All right, here we go. Take a break on the Plugged In podcast, we will be right back. ["football"]. All right, we are back, we're back, we're back. Plugged In podcast. This is season two, episode number 12. Welcome back, nate.
Speaker 2:Take it away, all right, so we live in a world today where AI is kind of runnin' wild. It's a little scary yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like amazing and terrifying at the same time. It's like every sci-fi film that you've seen about the end of the world with AI.
Speaker 3:For sure.
Speaker 1:It feels like we're at the beginning of that story. We are on the precipice of destruction. Okay, keep going.
Speaker 3:Nate.
Speaker 2:Anyways, so chat GPT, chat. Gpt is GPT means Chat, generative, pre-trained Transformer.
Speaker 3:I didn't know that either. Till I Googled.
Speaker 2:But it is an AI-powered language model capable of generating human-like, text-based responses based on context and past experiences.
Speaker 1:So this has been a lot of stories like college students are cheating on their final papers because chat. Gpt is writing them for them, right, yeah, so chat.
Speaker 2:GPT.
Speaker 3:It's crazy, it's wild right.
Speaker 2:So, chat GPT, you can go there and you can kind of type in a prompt. They have a website or an app. You can type in a prompt and just say, hey, chat GPT, write me a song, write me a new song from Freddie Mercury, and they can pull things he said in interviews, they can pull past things that are kind of his style and put something together and it's like what All?
Speaker 3:right. So what are we doing?
Speaker 2:So today, on the topic of identity and real versus fake sort of things, we wanted to come up with a game where we are competing against chat GPT, and so we're gonna do this in two ways. We're gonna do it first us versus chat GPT, and then chat GPT versus us.
Speaker 3:It's so hard to say it Chat, gpt. Yeah, what's the story in?
Speaker 1:the 1800s with, like John Henry versus the railroad spike machine. Yeah, this is that this is that moment man versus machine. It's 2023.
Speaker 2:So, what I typed into the prompt is this I want you chat GPT to try to guess what we are thinking of in only 10 questions with just yes or no answers. So, what we're gonna do is we're gonna think of something and in a person, place, thing, inanimate object, whatever, and then we are gonna give chat GPT 10 opportunities to guess that with just yes or no and see if it can come up with what we are thinking of.
Speaker 1:Okay, I have one.
Speaker 3:Just, I have not, I'm not gonna say it out loud because it might be listening.
Speaker 1:But I'll make a sound effect and a motion for our people on YouTube.
Speaker 2:Okay, Blah, blah, blah, blah blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, all right. All right, that's it.
Speaker 1:That was clear to me Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2:I had something, but it's not as cool as that, so we're gonna go with that. All right. So let's see Game on. It might be listening, it might be listening.
Speaker 3:I mean the bots are listening you are so loud, All right, here we go. Microphone boom.
Speaker 2:So it says this I'll do my best to try to guess what you're thinking of. Please go ahead and think of an object, concept or person and I'll start asking questions. Okay, done.
Speaker 1:All right here we go Boom.
Speaker 2:Is it a living thing, yes, or?
Speaker 3:no, no.
Speaker 2:Nope, all right, that was question one.
Speaker 1:How many did we? Give it a limit 10.
Speaker 2:10, okay. Is it something you can hold in your hand, yes or no?
Speaker 3:Yes. That's two Make sure you let's keep track and also tell it.
Speaker 2:That was question two yes Because last time what we need to tell the bot how to play the game.
Speaker 3:Well, last time they went a little over they cheated.
Speaker 2:Is it related to technology, yes or no?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:No, all right, that's question three. They're gonna get it. Can you eat or drink it? No, no, that's question four. That's question four we are flying through here. Is it something commonly found indoors?
Speaker 1:It's an odd, it's not common. I mean it's always found indoors, but it's not like a common item. I would say no.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Like you don't. The masses don't own that in their home.
Speaker 3:But is it as opposed to commonly found outdoors?
Speaker 2:What? Can you read it again? Is it something commonly found indoors?
Speaker 3:I don't know if I understand. Is it saying yeah.
Speaker 1:Is it saying it's not object Could be taking multiple ways Not just say it could be both.
Speaker 3:That's not yesterday's answer. You might throw the bot off.
Speaker 2:I don't know Okay.
Speaker 3:Just say no, no, no it's not.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know. No, is it associated with a specific season, like a holiday?
Speaker 1:No, no, unless you're in the Salvation Army?
Speaker 2:True? Is it man-made? Yes, so what is this? How many questions is?
Speaker 1:this oh, I thought you were keeping track. We were, but then we got into Seven.
Speaker 2:Is it a form of entertainment?
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, I'd say yeah.
Speaker 2:Is it something you can buy in a store?
Speaker 3:Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:I feel like it's getting farther away.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's not going to get it.
Speaker 2:Based on your answers, oh, I'm going to guess that you're thinking of a board game. Wow, sorry, chat GPT, you stink.
Speaker 3:Sorry that was so loud. I can't wait to hear that on the podcast. It's kind of like you need to like put a disclaimer in Like seconds before.
Speaker 2:Turn the volume down. I just got so excited. I'm sorry, you were really excited.
Speaker 3:Okay, now let's do the reverse of that.
Speaker 2:Wait, I'm shocked. Hold on. I think we really think we threw it off with not giving clarity to that one answer.
Speaker 3:That one answer went from a possible trombone to a board game. I think not.
Speaker 2:All right, I'm just going to say no.
Speaker 3:I think it was just a good.
Speaker 2:It's not a board game.
Speaker 3:My guess was incorrect.
Speaker 2:Can you please reveal what you're thinking of?
Speaker 3:Say trombone, and then it'll tell us why we answered.
Speaker 2:Trombone. Watch it's going to be like you said. It's not. Thank you for sharing what you're thinking of. A trombone is a musical instrument and it's a unique choice. If you have any more questions or if you'd like to play another game, feel free to let me know.
Speaker 1:Tell chat GPT that they're not a very good podcast guest. Tell us that.
Speaker 3:Say You're live on a podcast and you're not great, I'm very disappointed.
Speaker 1:Listenership is plummeting. Thanks, chat GPT. Wow, you're a fast typer. Did you feel pressure typing live? He's like now I do Tell us what it's like.
Speaker 2:I said, you are live on a podcast and you're not doing great, but I appreciate your feedback. If there's anything specific you want to discuss, or if you have any questions or topics you'd like me to explore during this podcast, please let me know and I'll do my best to provide valuable information. To engage the conversation, let's play one more, all right? So do we want to reverse that or do we want to give it another?
Speaker 1:chance. No, let's give it one more chance. The reader you think of something.
Speaker 3:Okay, I don't know how to act. Mine out, though.
Speaker 1:Pressure.
Speaker 3:Whoa.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I don't know how to act it out. Okay, nate, do what you were thinking of before.
Speaker 1:Just tell me what it is and if it is listening and it gets it.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's a good idea.
Speaker 1:No we'll know.
Speaker 3:The word is candy corn.
Speaker 1:The best word. All right, here we go.
Speaker 2:I want to play a game where you only have 10 yes or no questions to guess what I'm thinking of. Okay, got it.
Speaker 1:Okay, we have our thing.
Speaker 3:We have it, let's go.
Speaker 2:Man, is it a living thing?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Nope, is it something you can hold in your hand?
Speaker 1:Yes, that's two.
Speaker 2:That's two Is it commonly found indoors?
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, three. We'll be confident in that answer this time.
Speaker 2:Is it a piece of furniture?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Four Is it an electronic device?
Speaker 1:No Five.
Speaker 2:Is it used for entertainment or leisure?
Speaker 3:No no.
Speaker 2:Six.
Speaker 3:It's not getting.
Speaker 2:Made of metal or plastic? No, Seven.
Speaker 3:It's really out of the ballpark here.
Speaker 2:I think it's good. Is it related to cooking or food preparation?
Speaker 3:Let's just say yes, yes, Eight.
Speaker 2:Is it a kitchen utensil?
Speaker 3:No Nine.
Speaker 1:It's not going to get in.
Speaker 2:Is it a type of food? Yes, ten. Is it a spice or seasoning?
Speaker 1:They're just going to keep going. They're just going to keep going, all right, no.
Speaker 3:Eleven.
Speaker 1:Just keep going.
Speaker 2:Let's see, let's see. I'm sorry, I couldn't guess correctly. Ten questions, can you please?
Speaker 3:reveal what you're thinking.
Speaker 2:No, I feel bad for poor chat GPT, let's just say let's keep going.
Speaker 1:It's crazy because in our prep meeting we did like this twice and it got it in like six. Yeah, is it a type of fruit? No, nope, that's 12. I apologize.
Speaker 2:Can you please tell me?
Speaker 1:It's like stop.
Speaker 2:Just tell me it's nervous. That's on the podcast. All right, I'll let it know.
Speaker 3:I'll let it know.
Speaker 1:I'll let it know it's candy corn. Wow, I'm a little disappointed. I know man. We set that one up for.
Speaker 3:Thank you for letting me know. Candy corn is a classic Halloween candy. That's true. We were thinking it's true, it's true, it's a classic.
Speaker 2:Halloween candy. It's true, it's a classic Halloween candy.
Speaker 1:It's true. It's true, have you? I've read some articles and these are like way out there, but like people are starting to create like AI, like boyfriends and girlfriends yes, that's wild.
Speaker 3:Did you see the?
Speaker 1:Like they're paying like subscription apps to create like someone who will talk to them, who will like it's.
Speaker 3:It's really sad yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah but.
Speaker 3:Well, we fooled it. We fooled chat GPT guys.
Speaker 2:We did it we did it on the resume.
Speaker 3:We I don't feel good about it. Wow, we're getting choked up. He is literally choked up, man, yeah.
Speaker 2:I expected more out of chat GPT. Yeah, next time.
Speaker 3:Well, we'll just, you know, let's, let's just go talk about they haven't. They haven't.
Speaker 1:They haven't perfected it yet. Let's talk about Jesus. Let's go talk about Jesus. How's that Jesus?
Speaker 3:Okay, so question for you both Do you know the origin of your names? Do you know, like, why you were named Matt or why you were named Nathaniel?
Speaker 1:I know it means gift from God, but I don't know like. I think that's why my parents picked it.
Speaker 3:Aw, that's sweet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know why my parents picked it, but I remember as a kid being upset when I read in the Bible that there was an Nathaniel and his name was spelled different than mine. Oh, I was like, so you what?
Speaker 3:I wasn't good enough to get the biblical spelling.
Speaker 2:So anyways.
Speaker 3:Before I jump in, I just want to read the scripture to you from the first John, 3, 1-3. It says see what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God, and this is what we are. The reason that the world does not know us is that it did not know him. Dear friends, now we are children of God and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is, and all who have this hope in him purify themselves just as he is pure.
Speaker 3:So our son, jackson, came home. He's in preschool. He came home a couple of weeks ago with this little homework and what's his like first homework. But anyway, he came home with homework and I already had I was like we can't get this done but a piece of paper and it was what's your name? Tell us your name, where did your name come from? And it's, you know, beginning of the school year, and so they're learning who's in their class and whatnot. And so when we were pregnant with Jackson, we could not decide on a name and so we just called him baby H for the longest time because we were back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 3:Baby H, Baby H, that was what he was. My sister was so angry and all our friends thought we were like holding the name. We didn't want to tell anyone.
Speaker 1:I was like we just don't know.
Speaker 3:So we were like, okay, maybe like when we see him we'll know, we'll know. So anyone that kind of knows some of the background to our story knows that Jackson was a gift to us. Jackson has been, you know, a miracle child and he has been everything to us. But we named him Jackson Courage, because Jackson not only is in the family, nate's grandfather's, middle name was Jackson, but it also means God has been gracious, which really spoke to us during that time.
Speaker 3:And then his middle name is Courage, which was actually my grandmother's maiden name, Ruth Courage. And so Jackson Courage is his name, but-. And all the boys in your family, and my dad is Peter Courage, my brother is Peter Courage and now Jude and August are both Courage, so they're all the Courage boys. So it was important, and we put so much pressure on ourselves, to name Jackson, something that meant something.
Speaker 1:Can I happen real quick? Yeah, so when Caleb was born, we were between Caleb and Carter. Those were the two names and we were the same way. We were like we just need to meet him.
Speaker 3:Yes, and then we'll know.
Speaker 1:So he was born, and no, right before he was born, the doctor was just like this baby's gotta come out, like let's call his name, like what's his name. And we were just like, well, we're between Caleb and Carter. And the doctor was like, well, what are those names mean? So we were like Caleb is like with a brave heart. And then we were like Carter means man who pushes cart and the doctor was like this baby's name is Caleb. Thank you, doctor. Hopefully no one named Carter out there as offended. We love you, carter.
Speaker 3:Well, when I was growing up, I remember coming home from school with a very similar project and assignment and I wrote this whole paragraph on what I thought my name represented. Where I got my name, I thought that I was named after my grandma. Her name is Loretta. And in our family we have Loretta. My mom is Lorenda, sister's Larissa, and I'm Larita, and so I was like, oh, I'm clearly, it's just like you know a sub variation of Loretta.
Speaker 3:So my whole life people had and they've always mistaken my name for Loretta. I've been called Loretta instead of Loretta. How many times I was like that's naturally what my name is. I wrote this whole assignment about being named after my grandmother and no one in my family corrected me, so this was my thought. It wasn't until a couple of years ago. We were probably sitting at the dinner table or something and conversation comes up and I brought up being named after grandma. I was probably trying to rub it in my sister's face, like well, I'm named after grandma, and I was immediately stopped and my mom was like, oh, that's not where your name came from. And I was like, oh, by the way. I was like, oh well, what do we mean by this? Turns out my dad dated someone who had a name that my mom liked I'm not going to put it on blast, but had a name that my mom liked. My mom changed that name and came up with Loretta. So in essence, like the origin of my name was actually one of my dad's ex-girlfriends.
Speaker 1:That is amazing. And your mom's cool with that.
Speaker 3:Oh, she loved the name and she was like I'm just changing this and my mom kind of created my name. But it was a very humbling experience to go from bragging about oh, I'm named after grandma to like no, you're not named after the matriarch of our family, so it was an interesting experience.
Speaker 1:All that to say.
Speaker 3:That's awesome. Like how we get our names is important. And names are important. They give us identity, they denote purpose. Even during, like, staff orientation at camp, we stress the importance to our counselors about learning their campers' names call them by their names. Like it gives us a sense of pride and purpose when we're called by our names, there's a sense of worth that comes along with it, knowing that you are known and that you're important.
Speaker 3:Well, in the scripture that I read earlier, there's a few small truths that we can easily gloss over, but I just want to highlight them. The author writes see what great love the Father has lavished on us that we should be called children of God. You see, it's out of his love for us that we've been given a new name. We've been given a new identity. We've been called children of God. You see, it's grace that tells us that we're undeserving of this name. But it's also the same name that shows us the true depth of his love, and it's the true depth of that love that's the motivating factor behind all that he does for us that we're undeserving of. He has rescued us, he's sacrificed for us, he's forgiven us and even there, which we don't deserve it, could have been left there, it could have not gone any further because we didn't even deserve that, let alone anything more. But he shows us that deeper love by taking us into his family and calling us children of God. There is nothing within us or in the nature of the world that requires God to go beyond that forgiving, redeeming, rescuing, healing love that presses all the way in to make us a child of God. And then it goes on to say and that is what we are, the reason the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
Speaker 3:And I think that when I was reading this through I kind of camped out on that and that was a challenging piece, right. Because the fact is God is for us, he's for you and his love for all of us is so extravagant and if that's true, we often can wrestle with. If his love is so real and his love is so deep, how is there so much evil and hatred? And I mean thinking just so recently to the shootings in Lewiston and kind of how close to home that hit. But we can question it. Why is there so much negative and evil and bad things around us? But if we take a look inwardly. Are we really making that love known to those around us? You know, it's like what am I doing to change that? What am I doing to be that love incarnate to those around me? Am I just seeing it? Am I seeing all those things around me, or am I actively trying to make that love known and change the way that the world is? It's such a bitter truth to swallow, but the reason that the world does not know that we are loved by the God of creation is because they do not know him. And so are we, his church, we believers, making it easier or harder for the world to know the love of Jesus. How does the love of God, knowing that he has called you his child, how does that affect you personally? How does it change your outlook on yourself? How does it change your outlook on others?
Speaker 3:I say this a lot, especially during camp, but maybe it needs a repeat, so if you've heard it, I apologize, but I'm a very visual person and so when I'm singing a song, I can often visualize the picture that's being painted by the lyrics. I remember back in the day when I played with the Greater New York Youth Band as a teenager. If there was a movement or there a portion of a piece that I knew the lyrics that corresponded with that tune. I would often write the lyrics in the margins because to me, if I was reading it as I was playing and I reminded as I went into it, it was like man, I'm able to send these words out through my instrument, just the words. I'm very visual. I wanna see it, I wanna feel it.
Speaker 3:But today, this passage, this truth, is something that Christ offers to us, right? He's offering us this chance to be known and to be received as his child. There's nothing that we can do to earn his love, there's nothing we can do to deserve being called a child of God. But what we do to make it harder to accept is we hold on to our own stuff, right? So this is my visual when the Lord is offering me things and he's offering me grace and he's offering me peace in difficult situations, I picture all the stuff I'm holding on to and I can't receive anything he's given to me because I'm holding on to my own stuff, my own truths, the things that I've decided are truth, my own mistakes, my own flaws, my own belief that I'll never be deserving enough.
Speaker 3:I hold on to it so tightly that I cannot receive that which he is so longing to give me.
Speaker 3:We all hold on so tightly to all that stuff that there isn't room to be able to claim what God wants for us and what he wants to give us.
Speaker 3:So I visualize trying to put it down, trying to lay down this stuff, empty my arms of all the falsehoods that have brought me fleeting comforts or all the things that I've held on to for so long, to lay it down and to create space to be able to accept that God wants to give to me.
Speaker 3:So to those listening to us around this table, to myself, I'm here this louder today, over whatever you're facing, whatever you're going through, that you are loved, you are valued and that you are a child of God. That the God of Yahweh, the God of I am, whispers that over you today, that His presence is with you, that His power sustains you and His breath gives you life. And it's God that says I am and that's it he is. I'm not sure what God has been whispering over you recently, but what can you start laying down? To pick up what we've held, what can we lay down that we've held on to you for so long and start leaning into what God has for us. And today he's telling you that he loves you and that you are His child. So just to try and claim that today, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:As you were talking about names and the power of names, I was thinking of Satan. Like Satan's name literally means accuser, and how often we allow the power of his accusations to become the truth to us that we are broken, that we're failures, that we're sinners, that we're condemned, that we're not worthy not good enough? And how those names? If we give those names power, I can really paralyze us and hold us hostage. And yet, when you're talking about God, you know, speaking his love over us.
Speaker 2:I get this visualization of like Toy Story with like God you know, andy writing his name on Woody's boot. And like God, imprinting his, stamping, his name on us, that we belong to him and that, no matter what, even if we're lost and far off, we know we belong to him and that we can come back safely home to him. And just beautiful imagery of the power of God's intentional love over us yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm very visual as well, so I like that the way you explain that where you're, just you're holding onto so many things, it's weighing you down. And then you just said sometimes that is paralyzes, isn't the? It's not the right, it's not quite the word I'm thinking, but it you're moved to inaction.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you're frozen.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's the word I'm looking for You're frozen, you're stuck, you can't move forward, you can't do anything because you're so weighed down by everything that you're carrying, and a lot of those are falsehoods and stuff that don't hold any power of truth. Right, but the other side of that visual is you tend to forget that, as you're walking with all of these things that are weighing you down, jesus is right there beside you saying like hey, I can hand it over, I can take this, I'll take it all actually.
Speaker 3:Let me make this easier for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but no I. It's powerful imagery. I'm curious what band piece you were playing, but it was the one I can think of.
Speaker 3:You're a second cornet too, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I held that down At the end of every big piece that's like the glorious moment for the second cornet. It's because everyone's like the second cornet's got the melody.
Speaker 3:Blast it out. And that's, I think. That's why I would write it, because I'd be like I'm, I would play it more powerfully. Oh my gosh, I would tickle my throat, oh that's right.
Speaker 1:No, you're, you're, you're dead. Legendary second cornet for for decades. It's the Vaughn seat and the staff band.
Speaker 3:I always told Gordon, like don't, don't move me, I don't want to go, don't move me up the road.
Speaker 2:This is my seat, second cornet's, where it's at Yep. I agree, I agree.
Speaker 3:So it was power of your love. That's the one that I always think of. There's that one I can't remember the title, but the the tune was power of your love, and I wrote it in the.
Speaker 1:Lord, I come to you, yeah.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 1:Falling from the grave that I found, whatever it was.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Thank you, matt, whatever it was. Second, cornet's had a little blast that couple years ago.
Speaker 1:It was really interesting. I think it's a couple of years ago at Starlake or maybe a different territorial event. Unbound kind of did like a whole nineties medley like an entire night of all the worship songs from the nineties where it was really interesting, cause I think people of our generation that grew up on those songs like back then like songs weren't churned out as quickly as they are now, so you sang those songs to death over and over.
Speaker 1:But I found that when Unbound brought them back. Like I hadn't sung a lot of these songs in years, I didn't need the words on the screen. I knew every single lyric, and we're talking like three verses deep Like I.
Speaker 3:just you just knew them.
Speaker 1:They're imprinted on your heart.
Speaker 3:It's so true.
Speaker 1:But thank you for those thoughts, loretta. I think that's stuff that we can all take with us this week. Nate, do you mind closing wrapping that with a prayer?
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's pray, god, we are so grateful that you call us yours and that, lord, even in spite of ourselves and our brokenness, god, you see value, you see purpose, lord, and through it all, you love us completely. God, I thank you for the word that was brought forth today, lord, I thank you that we, for those of us who do know you and have received you, god, you've given us the right to be called children of God and so, lord, the urgency and the burden really, god, on our hearts to live out that experience so that others can also see and know, lord, that you desire to call them your children as well, god, we all have people in our lives, god, who are far from you, lord.
Speaker 2:We all have people that we can think of even in this moment, and sometimes maybe even ourselves, god, who are living our days stuck or held hostage or paralyzed by fear and regret. But, god, I pray, lord, that you would continue to just allow your light to break through. Lord, make us ambassadors and representatives of you in this world that is so dark in so many ways. And, god, may just the overwhelming flood of your love to become the most real and powerful thing that can drive out darkness. We pray this in your name, amen.
Speaker 1:Amen, all right guys. Well, we're pretty close to a wrap on episode 12 of season two, or I didn't say the right episode, 12 overall.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yes, episode three of season two. Technically, how do you? How should we number that? Because I could change them online. Should I keep? Should I say this is episode 12 or should I say season two, episode three?
Speaker 2:I kind of like the two 2.3. I do too.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I just kept. I do Then let's do it. Yeah, okay, I'll change it up 2.3.
Speaker 3:So forget everything you heard in the beginning of this episode, episode three of season two, the plug-in podcast.
Speaker 1:I heard that I feel like we went crazy with the mics today.
Speaker 2:We did A lot of stuff going on. I'm sorry it's been a while. Nate, that was my favorite, though I had to put chat GPT in its place, because I feel like you told that.
Speaker 1:You showed that.
Speaker 2:I feel like we're getting very close to the day when it will be telling us what to do. Yeah Well, we got some stuff coming up.
Speaker 1:I know you guys have the officers retreats coming up and sounds. Christmas is at the beginning of December. We've got one more youth arts ministry in November. Yep, thanksgiving's coming up.
Speaker 3:I think we should all be thinking.
Speaker 1:We should get our lists together. We're going to have to have our favorite Thanksgiving things and put that on socials. Do it right now? No, I'm just kidding. I mean we probably could in the off time, right. But we'll call that a wrap for this episode of the plug-in podcast and that's all I got. Yeah, we'll see you next time.