Navigating life's complexities often feels like a high-wire act without a net, especially when it's tax season and you're known more by your social media alias than your birth name. On this episode, join me, Bobby Frost, Jus Mystie, and special guest Baby Tweak 9k aka Cash as we tackle the wild ride of tax nuances for parents, the allure and dangers of high-profile celebrity bashes like those hosted by Diddy, and the often-humorous realities of adopting our online personas in the flesh-and-blood world.
It's not all lighthearted jest, though; our conversation takes a sobering turn into the realm of juvenile justice and the weighty decisions that come with youth and crime. Cash opens up about his transformation from crafting beats in school to facing time in a juvenile center, sparking a raw exploration of the impact of incarceration, the mental maturity needed for understanding long-term consequences, and the ongoing development of the adolescent brain. The stories take us through valleys and peaks, offering a lens into the consequences of choices made in youth and the steep road to reintegration and personal growth.
By the episode's end, you're sitting in on a masterclass in empathy, as we dissect the readiness of law enforcement to handle the nuances of community interactions and the challenges faced by those working with troubled youth. We share insights into maintaining control and respect in high-security facilities and the profound influence a mentor can have on steering a young life's trajectory. Whether it's Cash's musical journey, now playing out on streaming platforms, or a broader look at the ethics of the incarceration system, this conversation isn't just a deep dive—it's a necessary plunge into the waters of societal reflection and self-improvement. Join us for an episode that promises to stir more than just thoughts—it may just stir the soul.
Thanks for listening please go leave a review or comment and hit the support show link at the bottom of the page, so we can continue to give you and all tri nation more high-quality episodes and content!
Navigating life's complexities often feels like a high-wire act without a net, especially when it's tax season and you're known more by your social media alias than your birth name. On this episode, join me, Bobby Frost, Jus Mystie, and special guest Baby Tweak 9k aka Cash as we tackle the wild ride of tax nuances for parents, the allure and dangers of high-profile celebrity bashes like those hosted by Diddy, and the often-humorous realities of adopting our online personas in the flesh-and-blood world.
It's not all lighthearted jest, though; our conversation takes a sobering turn into the realm of juvenile justice and the weighty decisions that come with youth and crime. Cash opens up about his transformation from crafting beats in school to facing time in a juvenile center, sparking a raw exploration of the impact of incarceration, the mental maturity needed for understanding long-term consequences, and the ongoing development of the adolescent brain. The stories take us through valleys and peaks, offering a lens into the consequences of choices made in youth and the steep road to reintegration and personal growth.
By the episode's end, you're sitting in on a masterclass in empathy, as we dissect the readiness of law enforcement to handle the nuances of community interactions and the challenges faced by those working with troubled youth. We share insights into maintaining control and respect in high-security facilities and the profound influence a mentor can have on steering a young life's trajectory. Whether it's Cash's musical journey, now playing out on streaming platforms, or a broader look at the ethics of the incarceration system, this conversation isn't just a deep dive—it's a necessary plunge into the waters of societal reflection and self-improvement. Join us for an episode that promises to stir more than just thoughts—it may just stir the soul.
Thanks for listening please go leave a review or comment and hit the support show link at the bottom of the page, so we can continue to give you and all tri nation more high-quality episodes and content!
Yo yo yo, it's your boy, bobby Frost, and Bobby Frost media presents. Try parents. He, I'm with the beautiful lady, just missed it.
Speaker 2:No, courtney Lynn darn it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what's going on with Courtney man. She been incognito for a minute now and I got we got special guests. Homie man, young dog. Proud of me, man, when I say proud of my really proud Doing what you gotta do, man, I'm gonna introduce yourself.
Speaker 3:Baby Tique 9k.
Speaker 1:Yeah, baby.
Speaker 2:Tique 9k. What the fuck is your name? You Ain't gotta give us your last man, you gotta get a government. What is your name? If I walked up to you, I'm not gonna say, hey, baby, tweet if I don't know that.
Speaker 3:You can just call me cash cash. Okay cash.
Speaker 1:We all got to get a government up, man, but this my little homie ain't got to get everybody, don't go by.
Speaker 2:they tick-tock and send social media name, so I still need to ask no, you, I get it for sure. I mean, if my social media name was 61 9, you ain't gonna keep coming to me saying, hey, 61, 9, I ain't gonna lie to you. Some people allow you, but you not gonna come in public and call me hey, baby 1a7, kill, murder, dead, dead. Hey, no, you're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cash is a name, that's a thing that yeah, that's why I said I ain't gonna do that, cuz it's funny. Not like you know, a lot of people know me, bob, rob, but now there's so many people come up to me saying what's up Bobby, what's up Bobby for? And I had to get adjusted to it.
Speaker 2:Well, they wouldn't call you dr Dick will.
Speaker 1:No, no, no with the snap. My snap wasn't that big, though I will assume if my snap what it took off and got that big, and it probably would, because, like a lot of IG models I see, I don't know, they real motherfucking names a lot of IG models names, be they real name. No, I'll know, I figured that out.
Speaker 2:I mean you they asked some shit like the Don Ari that's Ari, real name. Arianna Jada waiter that's a real name. Jada chives, like they do name.
Speaker 1:They just some of them do be like they don't take their whole name away. Now I can name something that I remember. That's not their name, but they just put the shit on there because it's you know a name like what I get you, I can use a rapper for you.
Speaker 2:I'm not IG models.
Speaker 1:Oh, what's old girl name. As she's the fuck with Rick Ross, I can't think her name off the dribble the new. No, this is a while ago, but that one her name I.
Speaker 2:Don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm a looker up. I can't think her and that she was thick as well, wasn't it? She still think it's.
Speaker 2:Oh, but that was yeah, I really gotta know now just cuz she think cuz that nigga like skinny bitches.
Speaker 1:So I definitely got. That was not why she didn't last.
Speaker 2:That's why she didn't last cuz he don't like big girls.
Speaker 1:No, she's not fucking with. Some more, um, some more, no, no, no, that's why she didn't last with Rick Ross.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he like big little skinny bitches, I mean so what you built up to miss me? I'm not shit working, working, working. I have a new phase of apartments and townhouses coming up this summer, so I've been just at work trying to get my shit together and prepare for that man, you know what?
Speaker 1:What I really been on where the fuck is my taxes up, everybody else shit and came back. I want to know how to fuck. My shit ain't drop you know, I'm tired of my baby mom's.
Speaker 1:If any yard creep and listen, cuz I know one of my baby mom's actually, you know we'll check it out my other one, see, I know she probably creep and listen to this motherfucker. I'm sick and tired of every fucking February and January. I can't claim my kids. This shit is ridiculous. Man, like God damn. I would like I did it one time. My oldest is 20 and it gone down one time. I claim one of my kids one fucking time and then get it after that. I want to get a new living room set. I want to buy me a new little impala or Malibu. What's the newest cars with females right now, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I swear motherfuckers just be buying. Oh god, so I'm lying. Yeah, a new type of car, it be what. Hot was hot in general. Niggas was driving grand ams to goddamn. I didn't say they what? I said I was driving impalas and Malibu's to.
Speaker 1:I just said they what I want to better do with Tax money. Though that's what I say. You just want to buy.
Speaker 2:Get the girl he caught. That ain't what he said. He said he wanted to get the girl he caught it, I know nigga go get you a f-150, got damn it.
Speaker 1:I want to better go get a new bedroom suit like damn. You know I'm saying with tax money. I want to have to always spend my hard earned money, shit. I want a ball when February come around in March.
Speaker 2:Well, guess what? If y'all stop leaving your motherfucking baby mommas, maybe y'all will be able to no see, that's different. I'm not letting no need a claim. No, you ain't in this motherfucking household, nigga. The question on the taxes when I was the question on the tax paper says Does this kid live in your house more than six months out the year? If you can say yay, then you have a right to tax kidding, but you don't listen.
Speaker 1:Even when I stayed with my BM, I still couldn't claim I can't fuck what you talked about.
Speaker 2:If I had multiple eyelids or at least give you some money. But, nigga, if you don't stay with me and this ain't no motherfucking out the question that we answered questions around here legitimately this is the IRS. Let's answer it correctly. Do the baby stay with you six months out there?
Speaker 1:I can't say that. No, I can't say that, cuz die, I be lying, cuz I'll be self-employed and all that shit. Oh, no, they be, cuz I'm scared of.
Speaker 2:What Luther said don't play with the IRS. I don't Write and I ain't putting the penny over that definitely gonna fuck with you.
Speaker 1:That's all I've been on outside that man school and that's, that's really it. Man. Like really, I've been very, really figuring out production. As you see, I got the book all right. Now I got do some homework when I leave this motherfucker. I've been figuring out production. I'm like okay, like it make me look at movies and shit different. Now Now I know how some of the shit works for it at the fundamentals of I'm okay, I could like watching the two we movie before watching the two we movie be bad, but I watched that.
Speaker 1:Motherfucker now know how production work. I'd be like man, he's some lazy motherfuckers with this one boy. Hey, man, put in no. Like you know you get what I'm saying. Cash. Like listen you rap. So you can tell what motherfuckers is. When that bitch and just said some shit, yeah, compared to he took his time with it. You know, I see you can tell when my fucking mix the shit down, they just puts that side. Look with the two movies. Now I'm like God damn, they didn't put no work into this, motherfucker. You know I said.
Speaker 2:Project. I kept telling the director that he was like, can you come shoot today? No, cuz my hair different. He was like why you say that? I said cuz we watched to be movies and be like, why is that the same day? And she got on a different outfit or different, so anything like they just be. I think they be inexperienced. Yeah, that that's what it be. Well, don't look at me and talk about me on to be pleased. No, you see me on there, just be like. Look at just misty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess shot, shot anybody, sauce also to be. I'm just saying I'll be. This is make me look at it different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shout out to to be. And Tyler Perry, because they just be pissing. They mad at Tyler Perry now because he didn't came. Oh, another banger. I don't understand why they be mad at that man. Like, let him do him. He is discovering new actors and all type of shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he put a wish.
Speaker 2:He heard even call me taking too long.
Speaker 1:He put some people on man, oh man, since we ain't got court here, man, like I was laughing about that. Before we get into the topic Back, I always get the pay always full of circles for me. That's why I can say, on everything I talk about episode, that shit boomerang right back Now when I was tell y'all about that P Diddy shit. Now they talking about Meek mill, wasn't that bit supposed to be doing something? I seen something.
Speaker 2:A dude post Good and what, what and you and what, because people keep coming out.
Speaker 1:You think that what and all was funny because we build Talking about he go die about this shit, he ready to die. And it's funny, man, because this is the thing, like I seen, somebody else on another podcast was talking about this the finesse her club. It was funny cuz the dude said something else. It y'all rats. Who rats, all of them coming out on diddy they rats cuz he Come the point.
Speaker 1:Everybody, like I said, he said the same thing. Not everybody started you. Everybody know about diddy party. This. It ain't just pop up like exactly this. This shit been 25 years. Oh, everybody know about a diddy party. So first of all, I'm not high. When you get the invite, you get the invite. You know I'm saying you can turn that bitch down Declining now if you want to can you really though?
Speaker 2:Yeah, depends on where you at in your career.
Speaker 1:That's my point. You got what you go, so that's that's why I'm getting to. So when you don't decline, you want to go on that bitch and make sure your song pop or you make your album pop or whatever, or get a movie Roll, whatever that working you about to do. And it was funny cuz I'm gonna show you the clip my man was. It was so like cracking a joke about another guy man. He knows that bitch bumping the regular music and he said the music switch, that techno. He like he liked my mess of done. That's a strange choice of music. And then he popped up a star says the funny shit to him. But that's my thing, you knew what was going on. So when you getting this bitch and this nigga get to, you know Doing all his weird shit, why would you say something?
Speaker 2:Our jokes aside, though, do you think that it's impossible for somebody to not believe it? What you mean to not believe it? That's what's going on, fuck. No, yes, it is. It's somebody not your. Listen to what I'm saying. It's somebody watching all these allegations, saying that these people is not telling the truth on him and they want money from him and this and this and that, like. It's people that do not believe that if that person or somebody like that person gets the invite, they gonna be like. I'm going so I can see if this shit for real now. About time you got a dick in your mouth or in your ass. It's too late.
Speaker 1:No, I can't get it.
Speaker 2:No so you believe everything you see on social media, everything you listen.
Speaker 1:That's the thing.
Speaker 2:I can come out right now. I'm 25 years. Listen, this is all I'm saying and you and you're laughing. But be honest, though, I can come out right now because it's so hot. I can come out right now and be like when did he was in Detroit and we Was at a party and bro, and as long as I got a good story, they gonna put me on social media and now I'm finna, blow up the only difference is because they finna be like you.
Speaker 2:Don't say you Get what I'm saying, I get where you coming from. The only difference without one.
Speaker 1:The only different. I have to say what that one is. Just anybody saying it is different when a month because it's already known, you've been known for a minute.
Speaker 2:You got no. How, though?
Speaker 1:That's my To do this? Because did he ain't just coming up to a normal nigga or normal female say hey, come on to this yacht party. You already Got to be in the come-up or already in the mix. He's just not coming up to anybody. So that's where you get fucked up at night for that well known, established star. But last five, ten, fifteen, twenty years come say that I did he. That's when I'd be like cuz. Like I said you, anybody can spray rumors exactly.
Speaker 2:You think just cuz I'm up I got a name on. They said they get, they can't lie.
Speaker 1:Listen for 25 to 20 years and you don't hurt these many different motherfuckers.
Speaker 2:I'm a person that believe it, but I also know that motherfuckers can lie. When Casey first came out or casted, whatever her name is I'm not gonna lie to you. I didn't say that he didn't do the shit. I said you came out now because you want this money.
Speaker 1:Like I told you.
Speaker 2:I didn't say he didn't, but why is like you said? Why are you coming out now? So that gives another motherfucker reason to be like oh, she come out now cuz she broke. She could be lying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying he not lying, but it's very, it's very believable that he could be a lot and the reason why I said Go back to even pop, like when pop was saying that nigga was awesome while provey shit. That's almost 30 years ago, but, like I said, it shit, it's been around. It's like it ain't like pop. Though, that's what I'm saying, for motherfucking tell me, yeah, this out of town bad. And I'd heard this from 20 different motherfuckers and they've been saying this for 25 years. I'm not gonna take my ass on that side of time.
Speaker 2:Flynn is bad. Are you still up here?
Speaker 1:Guess what I'm not gonna say. Flynn ain't bad, like when I'm up. Like when I'm up I get popped that certain spots and I know Caz gonna understand what I'm saying. In certain areas, when I'm up, a good shot, it's not surprising.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, it has.
Speaker 1:or cash, oh yeah, when they get popped in a certain area, I'm not surprised like oh city got shot here.
Speaker 2:I mean, don't be like I'm not going to that gas station.
Speaker 1:I Ain't gonna lie to me. At certain times of night it's some gas station stores I don't go to. I'm just keeping it. Why don't?
Speaker 3:because I know what could potentially go on in that bitch.
Speaker 1:Why the fuck would I go there? I ain't gonna be why I ride on motherfucking E like and again certain areas. I'm just not going at certain times because you know what it is I don't have. I'm gonna say this I ain't the type of kid that had to go put his hand on the stove to learn that motherfucker was hot. When I see that other Officer, ah yeah, that motherfucker might be hot. Let me leave it wrong for that bitch. And that's the thing. And that Didn't nothing. My man said that makes sense too. I couldn't see myself as a grown. Now the females is different. This for the niggas as a grown-ass man, I could see myself coming out on no blogs, interviews, wherever Radio station podcast and saying, yeah, this nigga tried me like huh, you know, say like you know. Even I say he tried to do this with me like nigga. What?
Speaker 3:I was like what was your actions like when that, when that nigga tried that shit, what?
Speaker 1:did you do?
Speaker 3:What did you do? You just, you just let you, just let him do this shit like.
Speaker 1:Lately hitting the girl.
Speaker 3:Point. You ain't even try to like stand up for your man, who I like I will feel ashamed saying that shit like yeah, he tried to try to me what, what?
Speaker 1:Like man, listen, I feel offended if the nigga even looked like look that me in me with someone that's young, do you? I look like that type of nigga to you, you know I'm saying, but they come out and that's man. Hollywood is strange, and it's. But again, hold on. Everybody sitting here right now at these tables, no, you know her. Hollywood, strange the mother.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why you and I already told you don't you fucking try to jump on my bandwagon.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, mother fucking thing, you, their sacrificial lamb we put, just missed the.
Speaker 2:No, no, sacrifice my ass ain't nobody. Who got the movie already. If I gotta go already, gotta move you right, but who don't got the move?
Speaker 3:right, that's him in court.
Speaker 2:I'm cool, I'm taking nobody with me the fuck that if y'all didn't want to go to the party, y'all should cancel. Got their party Cuz I'm fine. I'm fine. He's thinking my ear or my nose and I know that they did.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 2:Did, I wouldn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna look at you different. If you pop up, it's two thousand twenty-four, two thousand thirty. You saw my daddy touch me.
Speaker 2:I'm like I'm telling you right now he touched me and what.
Speaker 1:Didi, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Nobody to be thinking I got fucked by didi, although I would very much have done it. I'm not a guy, though that's the thing like the females.
Speaker 1:I don't get it. Man, you can be surprised about this and I keep no, I'm surprised that nigga is coming out saying I've been funded or somebody Touched me as a grown man. That's surprising. Like Nick, you cool with saying that you came out of.
Speaker 2:Say somebody touch you because it was a girl. Don't mean shit I was a kid.
Speaker 1:This is a grown-ass man.
Speaker 2:Okay, I was scared you would y'all Cuz he did he the fuck. He can probably wipe me off the earth.
Speaker 1:I don't know this thing ain't that credible, hawkins.
Speaker 2:I Be acting like what they wouldn't wouldn't do, when you really don't fucking know what you would do. Yeah, I'm getting through up out that bitch you don't know.
Speaker 1:man Listen, I'm gonna feel like I said.
Speaker 2:I was what they would do with no situation. To say they get in the situation.
Speaker 3:That's just what it is. That's not what you want to say, but once I drill and start rushing.
Speaker 2:That's just like when they be saying I used to always be saying if I got in a shoot out, what I was gonna do, what I do, it's the guy stuck and couldn't go nowhere. I was like what I supposed to run, cuz they come from everywhere, and I sort of now, though I'm gonna jump behind the tree, kind of climb, run. No, that ain't what happened when it, when it's in the moment, you don't know when did he reach over and put his hand on your lap? You might be so surprised, and I'm, you don't know what the fuck.
Speaker 1:Man, it's gonna be a quick pause and then I'm firing off in the ship.
Speaker 3:I'm keeping the real.
Speaker 1:The pause gonna be like what? And then I swing like cuz I'm gonna be a star to this. You know it's a dick sitting next to you.
Speaker 3:It ought not be a part.
Speaker 2:If you, if we are sitting like this and he know that I am a nigga sitting next to him and he feel this he right, you right, he should.
Speaker 1:Cash got exactly. I said I'm gonna look at my nigga like what made you think? That's the thing I'm getting, that Try and then, like you're looking, see if you try to get your attention like what the fuck is going on I said, even if he would have came and said some shit to me like yeah, we about to go through this orgy, like huh, what made you think you can ask me?
Speaker 2:that come in right now, tell you, rise and start with him.
Speaker 1:You ride fuck no, I don't want to be nowhere with that. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say I'm gonna end it like this, did he just say well, talk to my daughters. If you had a party, stay with the crowd, man you had a party, nigga, and this was niggas.
Speaker 1:I say that for my daughter, this for niggas if you had a diddy party, stay with the crowd. If the music get the change, get the fuck out. If they start passing out certain type of drugs, he say, come on this part of yacht, and it's just him and a couple of leave, you are in danger. Like don't know, that's it. Wild though man, it's, that's a wild shit. Man like for real. For real, wild is fuck.
Speaker 1:Man, man, you know, you know I can make it other ways, then now you know who gonna do it for us, right, Cuz she been missing. Episodes of shit we putting Courtney up down on the floor.
Speaker 2:I don't know where she at. No, we do know where she a we put Courtney on the floor oh. I put my motherfucking friend on the floor she on the floor and you ain't gonna talk no shit about her cause she ain't here.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm gonna put it in the chat. She's on the floor. Missy, is what it is. We ain't y'all get invited. Like I said, I'll pull up in that motherfucker, and we ain't need me to come back and get you.
Speaker 2:You ain't leaving the fucking party.
Speaker 1:Man, I don't wanna go in that bitch, I'm straight. I just gotta keep it real. I'm straight going in that motherfucker. That's some tough shit. So we getting to that other part of the episode. So what's been going on with the love life, missy?
Speaker 2:I'm struggling with dealing with a fat boy. That's all I got to say today for y'all, and I need y'all to know that that is. I am really struggling, and that's just it. Y'all, y'all. I shouldn't even have to tell y'all why I am struggling really, really bad. But I'm gonna write it out because he's a sweetheart and he got everything except for a few things that I do like. But I'm just not used to living with a fat boy. That's that, that's that. On that, I don't, that's that. I'm not used to it. Sometimes I can't breathe. I don't know if I'm gonna die, I don't know if I'm gonna make it out of there, I just don't know.
Speaker 1:Let's say stop dropping a row.
Speaker 2:But he's a nice guy, so if I die, I die.
Speaker 1:What you just said, man, that's something I always say you got ain't. Nobody gonna find perfect. You gotta figure out what's on the priority list that you gonna have high and what's gonna have low, and they checking off enough for the high shit. You should be cool. Like people say, they don't settle, everybody settle, because you, if you know nobody get the perfect mate Exactly. I always tell people that everybody settled for something.
Speaker 2:But what about when they say they perfect for me?
Speaker 1:You lying again because they didn't check off everything. Nobody's perfect. Nobody's hitting every check box. Even if it's a small check box, nobody's hitting all of it. Once you figure out, like you said, this is somebody I can grow with this, somebody I can build with this, somebody I can love. So what is it about? Like you said, he a nice guy. That might not be your high thing Personally, how nice that it might be, how comfortable you is in the bed it's laying with him. That might be too much fighting for your life every night, who knows.
Speaker 2:Every night I gotta fight to prove my love Lord.
Speaker 1:That might be it. So you know what I'm saying Every week, and it's the one I got right now. The secret to getting ahead is getting started. This is a simple. That's by Mark Twain, too, if any of y'all wanted to know that she was quoted.
Speaker 2:Hey, I forgot to tell you I been going to the gym.
Speaker 1:Okay, couldn't I stare and mask there and all that, so you gonna be ready for the summer, I'm gonna be ready for Diddy Party.
Speaker 2:There you go, shit. Hey, I'm with you. I gotta be able to fight back.
Speaker 1:You definitely gonna need to do that.
Speaker 2:No, I forgot. I gotta get this summer together because when I do get some more films, I told you I got three people asking me to do films for them and I'm gonna do them, but I don't wanna be fat on film.
Speaker 1:So there ain't no big back energy this way, huh, nope, no, czar ski, I feel you on that. But yeah, that's the same. You know, the secret to getting ahead is getting started, and a lot of shit don't work because of that. Like you, just don't do it, just do it. Fuck waiting, fuck thinking about it, just go ahead and do it. And I give Misty a lot of shots after that, because when we come and we bump, that's where we bump. But y'all really wanna know where me and Misty bump heads at for real, no joking, that's where we bump heads at Misty. Quick to say I'm just doing it, we'll figure this shit out and I'll be more so.
Speaker 2:Like man, let's get everything lined up, because you like skiing you know what I'm saying and that's why I would not pick you to be on my survival team, because by the time you figure out our plan to survive, we'll be dead.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I'm gonna see that's a different. I'm gonna make sure we're gonna survive. I ain't gonna be on that, Not trying to push it together.
Speaker 2:We gonna be like we got to the dirt the meat can't touch the ground.
Speaker 1:No, I'm gonna be like that Don't drink out that motherfucker right there.
Speaker 2:Nigga, we ain't got nothing else to drink out of Drink, out of See what I'm saying, boy, all that motherfucking water.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to live Light skin.
Speaker 2:Dear God, please let me get stranded with a dark skin nigga that don't mind eating off the ground.
Speaker 1:That gonna be saying nigga, what shit get taught? He gonna be biting your ass.
Speaker 2:And not in the sexual way. No way, no way, no way, no way, no way, no way, no way, no way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have misty chops, that's okay, I'm gonna have sausage for lunch.
Speaker 1:But now that's it, man. Like, yeah you just lot of things in life, man, all over complicated, just start, just go put one foot in front of the other one, see where you get to that waiting shit ain't gonna get you None, Gotta do it. Even if you got a, whatever you got to do, man, just get it going. If you got a interrelationship, you got a starter relationship, just do it, man, and figure it out after that, Don't wait. So we about to get into the meat of the episode, so we're gonna start off. So, man Kaz, tell us something about your music, man.
Speaker 2:No, well, can you tell us how old you are? Do you mind telling?
Speaker 1:me that he might not want to know. Everybody knows it.
Speaker 2:I just said do you mind us telling Damn no, I don't mind you ain't this nigga's security guard?
Speaker 1:I'm asking my little homie man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you ain't this security guard? I'm sure. No, he said he 20,. Okay, I'm 20. And how long you been doing music.
Speaker 3:I'm doing music since, like I think like third or grade, for real. I ain't gonna lie. At first I used to just like beat on the table and just make beats on the table Me. It first started off like me, carson, basically all of us for real. Yeah, it just went from there. I didn't think I was gonna start doing music, though, for real, until like when I really got out of GVRC, like after I wrote all them raps in there.
Speaker 2:And what's GVRC for the people that do not know?
Speaker 3:GVRC Regional Center in juvenile.
Speaker 2:We just talked about that last week. That's why I made this Security guard, do you mind telling us why you went to GVRC without leaving? You ain't gotta go into too much detail we street niggas on this episode FYI but can you tell us why you went to GVRC? I'm a robbery, Hold on a second, I'm just saying with you boo, okay, I'm robbery. How long did you have to stay in there? I?
Speaker 3:was in there. I believe I was in GVRC like 18 months.
Speaker 1:I think I'm a little bit longer than that. Yeah, it was a minute, it was definitely a minute.
Speaker 3:Then I had to turn around and do another year on top of that.
Speaker 1:And this, like I said, is my little homie man. He was one of them hard headed kids in there. That's why he smiled and I wish I had the camera on him. Man, hard headed than a motherfucker boy. I said boy, but I'm proud of him seeing my girl. You know what I'm saying. It's crazy man. Like I had talked to it, we had the episode talked about it. One of my little homies, another one, you know what I'm saying. That's his people. He ended up dying. You know what I'm saying. I heard a piece of my little homie, davis man, jekyll Davis. It's fucked me up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So I worked at one of these facilities too. I'm not sure what GVRC is considered as far as levels. I was at a maximum security facility. Do you think that you went for iron robbery? So therefore you was on kind of a fucked up path before, but do you think that being in there helped you? Or yeah, Because a lot of the dudes at the ones I went to they said that they feel like their facilities don't help you, they just prepare you for jail.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like it helped me. It helped me in some ways, but some ways like it, like it kind of like slowed me down.
Speaker 2:What you mean. Slowed you down?
Speaker 3:Because when I got out it was like hard for me to adapt, like I'm still going through stuff like right now, because I'm behind everybody, so I'm trying to catch up for real.
Speaker 2:So you don't think that they keep y'all like. They don't keep y'all up to date as far as, like education, like or just how life and technology and shit be changed while you in there, Just life and shit. Oh yeah, that happens in prison. I'm sure I feel like when you go into any institution, whatever your mind is at that time, whatever your age is at that time, I really do feel like it stopped.
Speaker 1:That's one of the things I used to talk to him about a lot. He you know what I'm saying. He can advocate for me on that one. I used to tell him like man, y'all wasting time in this month, fuck, y'all ain't gonna be able to go to homecoming, y'all ain't gonna be able to go to proms, like stuff like you not gonna be able to do, because you in this month are giving your time away really to the state yeah, in county and state, because that's what you're doing. I used to hear it tell you, man, I used to even break down to how much money they make per day off of them.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Like man, you know what I'm saying. Like he said, I'm glad he said that that's real. You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna give him shots off of that because he said that he behind to be able to admit that is real. You understand that Me he got. He understand he can reflect, he can do self reflection. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's big man, one of the big things I used to remember when I was being in there. Man, a lot of kids used to come over there and he go laugh. What I said is they getting this month in an insolite turn Islamic? And I used to be like man, don't it? No, you know what I'm saying. I tell you what religion you is Longest to make you a better person. It used to just trip me out because I used to see kids doing a lot of them used to do it to get extra snacks and they go to the Islamic service. They go to the church service. Bob them, bob got there. They try to avoid certain food, like if they having pork chops. I don't want to really eat pork chops. Oh, I see you got chicken tenders over there for the sub to. Oh, I'm Muslim.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, they definitely tried to pull that shit that Cal you made too. I used to be like man get the.
Speaker 1:you know what I'm saying, but he was one of the kids I seen when they came to Ramadan. He really did it Like he didn't break.
Speaker 2:Oh, they started in a couple of days.
Speaker 1:He really did, you still on your stuff.
Speaker 3:I ain't no pork. I made pork in like four years, three years.
Speaker 1:How you been doing in Ramadan.
Speaker 2:He was one of the first kids. No, they started in a couple of days.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't know. You got to ask him. I wouldn't know that.
Speaker 2:It's on my calendar. It started soon.
Speaker 1:Let me look let me find out you Islam, try to be Islamic.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not trying to be Islamic.
Speaker 1:I know because I say you need some bacon other day.
Speaker 2:Oh cause I know it ain't even cause of the bacon. I don't give a fuck. I'm not going to be Islamic, I'm not Christian, I'm not anything. I believe what I believe in, and I think Muslims have a lot of they religion have a lot of good facts and a lot of little shit, and I think Christians got a lot of good shit. Hell, I think Buddhism got a lot of good shit. So I just don't, you know. Now when it comes, I'm a church sometimes. Sometimes I don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when it comes to religion, like I said, I don't really tell nobody which way to go. I'm not that type of person. If it makes you a better person, stick with it. That's what I tell people.
Speaker 2:And yes, and what's crazy is I, even if I was Muslim, just like Christians, do shit that they just gonna do. They cussed at shit you ain't supposed to do. I ain't gonna stop eating pork, Muslim or not. I like bacon.
Speaker 1:I told you I was a C.
Speaker 2:That's the only pork I eat is bacon, and I can't. I'm addicted, yes, I am.
Speaker 1:Like bacon, and I ain't a lie about it. That's the one thing I said. Man, I'm trying turkey bacon. It just don't hit the spot.
Speaker 2:It ain't right. It ain't right, so I'm okay. But I just feel like okay. So I do understand the reason that they say we ain't supposed to eat pork or whatever, but I'm also a person that feel like I guess this is where my beliefs in just me coming in at, because they have a shit that we ain't supposed to eat in the Bible as well. Everything that they giving us in America is fucking us up. I don't give a fuck what it is. If you ain't making yourself and packing yourself, you don't know what the fuck in it. Yes, pigs is nasty as fuck. I know all about the shit that come out. They fit. You know I love animals. Chickens is too, though. You get what I'm saying. So ain't shit that we eating. Good for us, for real. We ain't even supposed to eat meat, period. So if you ain't just eating vegetables, then you ain't can't really tell me what the fuck to not eat and eat because that's what you're supposed to be eating. That's it.
Speaker 1:This is rules. I will say that you know I'm in it with religion, with this. All I say about religion. I used to tell the kids this man, like, whatever religion you get to, what's it gonna teach you this? That's, if you follow it, it's gonna teach you this because you have rules to live by, just like in society, you have rules to live by. It's gonna teach you this one If you stick with it, if you do what you gotta do, it's gonna stick with it. And it's funny, man. That guy said that. Man. It's funny because I used to see Marlton writing the rhymes.
Speaker 1:Man, I used to be like one of the staff. I wouldn't get on him heavy about it, you know what I'm saying. I just tell him do it in canteen time so they don't get down on my ass about it. But I used to tell him man, stick with it. Man, like he used to be like me, really think I could do it. I'm like, yeah, some of the people I had seen blow up for music, I'd be like ain't no fucking way If I was just out there. Think you know, judging on the point, like I ain't no fucking way. But nah, man, you got talent, stick with it, man, keith, ain't it? Come with that. Like I tell anybody with the music stuff man, it's the more reps it's like anything else the more reps you get, the better you gonna get at. You gotta stick in that studio and stick with it, man. I listen to some of your music, man, you got talent. How you feel about the Flint scene right now, about this rap period? Who's some of your favorite artists from Flint?
Speaker 3:I gotta say, babyface E, I really mess with everybody. I listen to everybody for real, it don't matter what side NB Vito, I listen to everybody. I can't, just, I can't just put a, so you ain't got a fact like you ain't got a favorite.
Speaker 2:I listen to everybody too, but I fuck with YNJ and.
Speaker 3:Louis Ray, like I ain't got no favorite, everybody just. They do the same. They do the same thing to me For real, for real.
Speaker 2:Say you your favorite, fuck that yeah.
Speaker 1:No, I'm wrong with that, ain't nothing wrong with that, now that's. You know what. We talked about that when John Connor was here. Man, that's the one thing I like about the Flint scene. As of now, it's not a lot of beef going on with them. They all collabing on each other. You know what I'm saying? The ones that's out on the floor front they collabing with each other, and I like that. That's how I tell you. That's how you get on, because if one person get on, if you fucking with them, chances are somebody out there following and gonna hear you and then you can get turned on. You know, like that. So I fuck with all. I just matter of fact. I think Young Dog, I think he just got signed to Atlantic or some shit like that. I seen it coming down my line.
Speaker 2:I seen it too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, shout out to him. Man, that's good, that's good, shout out to him, that's good. So, speaking of before we get all GBRC in stuff, so tell me something, what were your challenges being in there, or just any facilities you've been to?
Speaker 2:You've been to multiple facilities.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean I locked up since I was 12, to all the way I was 17. But I got locked up once when I got a GBRC and I was in the county like 20 days and I ain't like that shit. So Remember, I used to tell y'all that when y'all used to be like, send me to.
Speaker 1:They used to be this he's one of the same kids. Man send me to the county. I don't wanna be here. I said, boy, that county different yeah it is.
Speaker 3:I was ready to go.
Speaker 1:That county did food. You eat the same shit. It seemed like wherever they cook Sunday, I think it's Sunday Saturday wherever they cook, you had that shit. For the rest, I used to tell them it's the rest of the week.
Speaker 3:Every day.
Speaker 1:Every day. They used to think I was just saying that shit to be trying to scare them or like no man, that shit sucked.
Speaker 3:You ain't got no commissary, you get in there Cause I ain't got no. I ain't got nobody putting the unknown in there for me, so it was rough.
Speaker 1:It's tight and you know GBRC, like a lot of other ones, and the thing I say about GBRC I'll tell them on that one, you didn't get generic snacks.
Speaker 3:You got snacks out here. I was more honey. I ain't got a lot.
Speaker 2:Oh, no, okay, so that's crazy. That's what that will blow me about these places right Now. They take these kids cause cash. I got a criminal justice degree and I'm going to school to be a lawyer, so I'll be on your side. But I'm really passionate about it only because I feel like like shit, like that. Y'all get good ass snacks, right, they get good snacks cause they kids. They kids, right, they treating them like they kids. But then in all, in the same facility, you're not treating me like I'm a kid. I'm sleeping on a concrete slab. You know what I'm saying. Y'all not keeping me up to date on the world that's changing around me, and then I'm a kid. You still finna give me life. You gonna give me life for something I did that. I'm not even fully mentally capacitated to know that I did that. You know I'm saying how do you feel about kids getting life and, like what they call it, charged as an adult?
Speaker 3:Me personally, I feel like you ain't even giving enough, like some kids don't know what they be doing sometimes it be the crowd, sometimes it be you don't even know with somebody, you can't, you don't know what somebody else going through until you and they shoes types, so they just be like they don't. They don't give us a chance to like explain our side of the story. Don't give us a chance. We just and we automatically just guilty once we do something. We just gone, we already know we finna get time for it like they don't. It don't be no, no way around.
Speaker 2:It know none of that, so it just be like I don't know they do you think some kids abused it and be like, oh, I can do this cuz I'm a kid, and they gonna be like, oh, you a kid.
Speaker 3:It's some kids out there that think like that, but everybody you know think like that.
Speaker 2:I get it. I don't think that kid should ever be. I mean, I know some crimes be like. You know we watch TV, we watching who some crimes be off the chain. We be like goddamn, a kid did that. But I still think that if we talking about the mental capacity of somebody, like how they can say somebody 14 or 13 can commit premeditated murder, like you know, I mean times I was a teenager said I'm gonna kill my mom about the cutest which I can't go nowhere just cuz I said that don't and I like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:you know I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm now notice, and when I was in there he understand this for the point I always stuck up for the kids. I'm gonna feel different about that one. It is such things premeditated because a lot of times they be knowing, like you be knowing you be, knowing what you want to do, but that's at 13.
Speaker 2:When I go in here and stab my daddy, I, yeah, I know I'm gonna get in trouble, but I really don't know that. That is my whole life. All I'm saying is you're absolutely correct. This is where this, where it get fucked up for me at, because you're right, I said there and said that at 13. Right, so y'all gonna take me to jail and say premeditated life, that's, that's life. Premeditated murder is life without the chance of parole. Right, but all in the same breath, if I didn't commit a murder, right? Y'all gonna tell me, as a 13 year old, your mind isn't all the way developed, you don't know what you're doing, you don't know that actions do it how? Y'all gonna say that. But then, when it's another action as a adult action to y'all, y'all say I'm fully here and I'm aware of what I did, and now I'm finna get life that's the reason why I used to talk to them so much, because I understand that little.
Speaker 1:That gray area, that's where, that's where lawyers and prosecutors make their money, the gray area. So that's a gray area because, like again, you took somebody life but the facts is the fact you want to put it out there. No, I'm good because what you just said, I always with the advocate for this right here, but it's like you said, 15, 16, 17 year old, 13 year old can't have a capacity that the gravity of the actions, the way that action they just did, it's motherfuckers. That's 25.
Speaker 2:Don't understand that they don't get it. What not that, not that when it come to kids? That's why I was just gonna say I don't think it's a gray area when it come to kids, because the society put the simulations on. What they meant to is like when they certain ages, but that's 25.
Speaker 1:At 25 you grow but hold on this what I'm saying. I ain't giving nobody know what's going, just keeping it. So you said the brain stopped growing at 25. That's what they say. They say you grown at 18. What's gonna be the? Real, 18 from age yeah, I'm even use 20. What would be the real difference with the mental capacity from a 20 year old, from that much of a 16, 17 year?
Speaker 2:it ain't that big of a different you don't think so how much the fuck do you learn in one year? Hell, no, because I know I've been around.
Speaker 1:I remember me being 16 to 20 was a different yeah you said 16, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2:I go with you with that. We said 13 14. My son in the eighth grade. He 14, he's in the eighth grade, that's it yeah, but that's why you use a 20.
Speaker 1:I'm out of high school that's why I'm gonna use the 14 to 20. That's why I say you can do 17 to 20.
Speaker 2:I will give you that at 17. You're not gonna come here and tell me that you walked in your daddy room and shot him in the head and didn't know what he was doing. Didn't know what you was doing so not telling me that so hold on.
Speaker 1:So you say from 17 to 14. That's a big at that big gap, that huge difference.
Speaker 2:I'm saying do you know, from one to two is a huge difference in a baby, in the way you grow mentally if you want to go without, I'm not, I'm not until every class of psychology.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you I get what you say, cuz I took psychology classes. But that's it change them. Things change all the time listen, they do change all the time. Let me finish this right. At 17 you can go to the arm no, you can't, that's a damn long you better look it up oh, they must just change.
Speaker 2:That's a big change for a long time, oh 17.
Speaker 1:You can.
Speaker 2:Your parents can wave sign away, wave, wave, but hold on because they have to sign away. They signed a waiver be missing.
Speaker 1:What I'm saying? The government still saying, with the waiver being signed, that you still got a little compassion, a waiver, because you're not alone, regardless or not you still getting away, they still saying hey, you can go over here and do what you gotta do. And I don't about the deploying an 18 you don't need, so you can't tell me from 17, 18, it's that big.
Speaker 2:Okay, first of all. First of all, I hate that you use that example, because I think that is stupid, because y'all ain't doing them, but taking our people, go over there and get killed and fight y'all war has nothing to do with your mental capacity. Hold on what I'm not time out time out.
Speaker 1:It do go with mental capacity, because here go my thing, once you get over in that motherfucking, if you didn't, really let's and I tell kids this all time you don't know where you might get sent to deploy to.
Speaker 2:You don't know when a real work on break out, why you don't know what I got to do it, what I'm gonna do is listen, listen, just open years up.
Speaker 1:You have to premeditate the thing.
Speaker 2:I want to go serve eight years in army season the point that you try to make I feel is invalid because you have to wave it, as my parents, so you know you don't have to wave it.
Speaker 1:So what? I just asked the question mental capacity.
Speaker 2:I'm always just middle capacity, I don't think the middle capacity is different, that's why you miss you so I'm a different, a different 1718 yes, I don't know, nobody I don't know, nobody I can talk to.
Speaker 1:I'm a cast right now. You think you was that much different for 1718?
Speaker 2:just 1718 do you think you changed that all? Yeah, I got well, first of all, when he was, when did you say you got out? And you can't ask somebody who his? When he went in at 12 and didn't get off, he was 17 but your mental capacity was already I'm using it was already compromised.
Speaker 2:It had nothing to do with you. Your mental capacity and how you see life was already compromised when they locked you up at 12. You shouldn't have been locked up at 12, so that already fucked that up. So, yes, you can ask a psychologist who's has a doctor's degree not even me that every year of your life you change mentally. Yes, you do, significantly. You might not notice it, but you do so, yes, at 17. That's why you have to get your parent to say listen but hold on.
Speaker 1:This is the point I'm making again with that, all the rules change. I took psychology. The rules change at different times. 18 what in the age?
Speaker 2:your mind, the way your mind work can't change just because psychology changed them the way that's not true.
Speaker 1:That's not true. The things, the findings that they find out because they used to, they use it and say so they change every year?
Speaker 2:is that what they said in psychology?
Speaker 1:changing every year. But the capacity that's my point you can't tell me just from 17, 18, you got to the point where you know what you doing you don't know, I still.
Speaker 2:I'm in a sense but the law listen the law just say you 18 and you grow. I don't think you know what the fuck you doing as a grown-ass man to you 40 so that's where I'm getting at it from.
Speaker 1:Certain kids develop at certain times. I can't tell a kid at 14. That's what I'm saying. I'm not gonna knock that at 14. You sit up in this month but you get into it with a kid and you gonna sit home and wait a couple days. You gonna go go in there, figure out to find a gun or go get a gun off the street. High-roy, you want to do breaking house, get a gun, take this gun and go hunt and go kill this kid.
Speaker 1:You thought about it, this one, no spur of the moment. You thought about so premeditated. You took time to plan this out. That's what premeditated is. You took time. You sit up in here, thought time. I didn't talk to kids. Why was it? Give you our cell, I asked. Tell my man, you thinking wrong. You sit up in this motherfucker writing raps. You sitting up talking about it, what you gonna do to this certain kid when you get out. You've been this motherfucker with me for eight months and I didn't see kids leave out this bitch after eight months and go do what they said they were gonna do. And I be thinking like damn, like this. You knew what she was doing, you in here was, but that's months.
Speaker 2:I can agree with that, as even I'm telling you as a defense attorney, if he came and told me that that I was in GVRC writing this rap and I said that I was gonna do this and I got on, did I'm not going to rep, I'm not gonna represent you because you did. That's definitely premeditated. I'm talking about spare of the moment, how they say a kid is responsible because his mama came in there, whooped his ass and told him he was on punishment forever and he going there and stabber seven times because he was mad, that same that's a different situation.
Speaker 1:I can agree with that, but that's what I'm saying. Even. What I'm saying is, even with them, situations like that, that kid that sat in here for eight months, I understand this must too. He's not gonna have, he's not gonna understand the gravity of the situation and what he going to do. You're just in your emotions. You're mad. I can sit back and think damn, I go do this shit right here, just out of just gonna look at it how the prosecutor that's because your brain is done maturing that's what I'm saying and what I'm getting at when I'm saying it's niggas, my age, that can't get, that, they don't have that.
Speaker 1:Just because this is what they say, the average person shit gonna be in there. This don't mean that person how many people in America got mental all most abilities and how and how in line between being crazy and fucking insane is very, very fun.
Speaker 2:Almost everyone so like I don't that's why I said everyone, I'm with you, I think every case involving anybody taking somebody life should have a therapist there and all type of specialist. Now, the brain is a very, very special thing and it's very, very fucking. It's amazing now, what you just said I'm gonna take it back.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna hit cast with this. One things I always said, starting from the police all the way down to they get to us. There should be more training. Fuck all that physical with restraints and how to use a gun, all that shit. Fuck that. It should be more training from the middle side, because now you dealing with it, you dealing with a kid, a human being, a kid at that, the impressive.
Speaker 1:The brain ain't got to where it's supposed to be in a development and you're not understand. I'll do it. I could say this right now and I can't say names cash, can I get in trouble? He can say name. I know certain staff I looked at and be like man, you shouldn't even be working with kids. And I'm telling you how I know because I see you don't understand how to work with a kid. You have no patience, you have no understanding. You want this to be black and white. It's not black and white. This kid. Just because this kid got this charge, this kid got the same charge, don't mean they act the same. They're gonna react the same. All kids at different levels but, I don't mean a person.
Speaker 2:They can't have passion and want to do it. Some don't have a lot of some don't have passion.
Speaker 1:The same thing. I say why you think again. How many times do you hear a black officer killing a white kid, a teenager or young, 14 year old, 13 year old? How many times you hear a news?
Speaker 2:no summer, like what the reason I said is because some people definitely you know why you hardly hear it?
Speaker 1:because here come my point. It's already in a black officer my state that I'm gonna get fried if I make this mistake. When it comes to the white officer, I just just happened. I literally just went through this helping somebody out officer. I walked into the office it was talking to the officer. The officer told me a bag up. I said, man, you got this young lady pulled over. I know this young lady. I'm out the room. I'm like all I'm doing to make sure she good, oh well, you can't stop here, go. You gotta go park around the corner. I'm like why? No, you don't, I know this, but hold on.
Speaker 1:I could have been a nigga that sat back and said I know my rights and went out. There. He gots cuz he was. He was a young officer. It looked like he might have been 26 at the most. He was. You could tell in his voice he was nervous as fuck. He had list within his voice. He was nervous as fuck and I know as meantime I ran to a police. I said yeah, if I would have kept approaching him and got you know back with him and telling him I'm right, he might have popped my ass. But the difference is he know I get, I pop him. What's the worst?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna get suspended oh no, not in Michigan. I know. I will say that that depends on your area. Yeah, down south they definitely get away with you ain't getting away with that shit of north.
Speaker 1:So you know now I can't say that because that's just that happened with them. Kids no higher than they get no time, no real time for that. I don't have no idea what you talking about. It's a kid. This is about five or six years, might have been a little bit long. The kid got pop, he had a they said he had like a toy gun or some shit like that water gun to end up shooting him and then officers got off because he had the toy gun, regardless of this is 12 year old.
Speaker 2:I'm, but listen, I you already know I am never. I hate police, that's all I know when you lost me, when you said here come my point, if you are a police officer. Let me ask you this all jokes aside, he didn't get caught on listen.
Speaker 1:Regardless of that you did, I'm a police officer. If I see a 12 year old listen, I can't identify.
Speaker 2:That's a good you know you can. Sometimes you can listen. I have a question why don't you ever hear a?
Speaker 1:black officer doing to the white kid.
Speaker 2:I. We didn't just disagree with that, we got past that. I said you're right. I said you brought up a situation and I said as a police officer you do not always know those guns is fake. Reggie got a BB gun that looks so motherfucking real. You cock it back and everything. I swear to God that bitch look real.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute, cuz I listen to you.
Speaker 2:So if you are a police officer doing your job and this young man got a gun waving it around and you can't tell that it's a fucking fake gun, they don't got that orange sit on the inside, no more. I can't say that he was wrong for shooting because I don't know what the little boy was doing look it up.
Speaker 1:This is thing I'm gonna say again. I watch this all the time when it become to a white kid. White kid could have came out that motherfucking killed up like I seen the Dylan roof situation. You shot up a whole motherfucking movie theater. Y'all walk the amount of hair smooth in my right why, again, you could see him and feel like what? He's white. Let me talk to him. I can watch car if it's a black kid, yeah you're absolutely right this why I'm getting to it again with the gun situation.
Speaker 1:Same thing. I remember sitting out there but we got stopped by a black officer. No bullshit, we outside I never get this. My dog shout out to my dog, to the off, to these. We sitting outside. He came back from reasons first time back. Never forget this. If we ride around through guns you we're using, he's shooting out the thing with a water gun a colorful water gun. I want that colorful but it wasn't black here go my thing. It might have been black, but I can't remember this.
Speaker 2:To keep the key thing okay, cuz we talked to you, don't? You don't let me. Let me spend our evidence. We got no with color, the key thing.
Speaker 1:I see him pull up. The officer came and talked to her. I didn't been outside before with a black paintball gun officer pulled up. He talked to us about it but get our guns look fake.
Speaker 2:They look like guns with big ass paint things on top of girls.
Speaker 1:What you said it was cuz he was. I'm not giving up off that because of black. It was a black officer. Here come. I think I always say these mistakes don't never happen with black officers, with white kids. Why so? As, let me know, right there somewhere up in line, this black officer can look at this white kid and be like let me take the precautions and see what gonna do, compared to this white officer coming his motherfuckers scared.
Speaker 2:It's shitless he already scared of you as a that's what I'm getting, what you? You. You always argue with me when I didn't say you were wrong. I just said that one situation you say, which he said over here saying no cap to I don't give a fuck if you're not an officer. If a little nigga come up to you with a gun, that don't look fake what you gonna do.
Speaker 1:And you got your gun. This is my point where I'm in that officer for shooting the kid that had a gun. That could have looked real they didn't get an officer to get caught on a kid, he stopped that?
Speaker 2:oh, that's what he has a gun well, you don't know what.
Speaker 1:Regardless, my take that bitch out the house. I'm with you missy, I'm with you a hundred percent this. Why I mean by more training mentally. If I see a kid out there ain't nobody running around his motherfucking anybody holler, oh, he got a gun. You don't hear none of this shit. You out of Magley, hop off the fucking car scene. A 12 year and it wouldn't like this kid. Go look at it. What like? This kid was no bigger.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna have to play girl yeah, with no big ass kid in the gun like, or he just had the gun playing like sitting on the swing, like that's why I said you gotta give me missy, that's why I'm telling you I get you playing devil advocate.
Speaker 1:I'm still popping the situation and I hop out and I don't hear nobody running, nobody got a gun, nobody crying. Why the fuck would I automatically hop out ready to shoot is why, what are you doing with a gun?
Speaker 2:out, I'm not saying I would have shot. I'm not saying I would jump out and shot, but as an officer yes, I'm jumping out, caution.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just seeing caution right receive a car. They didn't perceive them up, but as it but as this 12.
Speaker 2:If he proceed with caution right in this 12 year old, be like oh, it's a he up that bitch. I'm just saying. All I'm saying is I'm a black woman and I have a black son, so I get it. I was a black kid. My uncle is an officer. You have to put yourself in a shoes.
Speaker 1:I was a black kid growing up too. I got all that. I tell the kids that when I'm getting back to again, a lot of them officers don't have enough mental right to come out. And like he just said, you, you are ready. Some white boy that, like I said, I when I was in my criminal justice class I told y'all this before sit up in this bitch. I remember a white boy was going to be a motherfucking state troop. That's what he say. We're gonna go up in there and do. He stayed. I forgot what city was, but boondocks, one of them, hick City, I want to say Otisville, some shit like that. His first thing coming out his mouth was I want to get the. When I get in, I want to get a station. I want to be in Flint, said for what? For that's where I'll action is. That's. Let me know. He's coming in his bitch already thinking this shit, grant up auto types it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's definitely some officers that get.
Speaker 1:That's why I just said the kid I called him a kid because he was only like like about 24-25. He was shook. I'm big, I'm a big black. You know some black guy coming there to get out the car trying to talk. You know, I said, cuz I know the little homie, he actually get on some wild shit. Her mama put look, she like why he acting like that? I said just chill out. Cuz I said man, go left, he's scared. I went to go give him a handshake. Man, you know, I think it bounced back on me. Just thought about that. Everything was good and the baby girl was good. I was getting about to give him a handshake, he bounced back.
Speaker 2:I think that I always tell black dudes young black dudes, old black dudes first of all, I always got to keep saying this because I don't know who the fuck gonna hear this. Yes, I do not like police officers. Yes, I think they racist and they do kill our young man and all of that shit. But I've also been in the car with a nigga before, and why do you instantly got attitude when he comes to the window?
Speaker 1:the same niggas do.
Speaker 2:Niggas definitely put them. That's why they scared is my point. They're scared of y'all. They shouldn't have to be, but they are. They're automatically scared of the black race anyway, right? So when I walk up to your window and I'd be like, hey, good afternoon, he is to be like man, what you put me over for a dog like it, and he instantly on that, cuz I didn't saw niggas do that. What do you expect the officer to do, black or white? What do you expect?
Speaker 1:I just said what I said. I can use me in the facility. I seen certain and here you go, cast said cast and got mad at me. Before I didn't trip off on you do we talked it out other staff. They got mad at me quick to assist his assistants yeah but, this is why I'm saying it you need more mental training yeah, you know criteria because you need to hire somebody that can deal with him calling her bitches and shit like that.
Speaker 1:Really not enough to really understand that. Cuz my phone some people interview good.
Speaker 2:I don't know why, cuz they motherfuckers interview me full time, so you're all behind. I'm gonna go back what I said.
Speaker 1:I know GBR said I want to do.
Speaker 2:I got phone and still didn't get that bitch.
Speaker 1:I'm saying that I don't know most of the people that went to GBR said I got a couple homies that just was in that bitch. They both in love. One interview and I say this all the time like a police academy. I think you only got to was six months for police academy, something like that. I look it up in a minute. I think it's like six months, maybe here's six months.
Speaker 2:That's not long enough for you to be in a position where you got a motherfucking life in your hand and I think they trained in this suck, because again I did make fuck GBRFC because I had to do three interviews next to the training. Do suck any who? Yeah, I was just gonna say, but the training, I think, cuz I we went through training and for the most part I feel like we sit there and we read books and we learn the laws that we supposed to learn but, like I said, y'all don't teach us how. Yeah, y'all teachers take downs too right, but y'all don't teach us how to de-escalate it with just talking to a kid, like first of all, soon as they they know that when you and in facilities, like soon as I turn up, miss miss summers for to put me in this, whatever move the fuck that are the like that.
Speaker 2:That shouldn't even be. They mental, you know. So I never had to do no physical contact with none of them niggas in there and then was big-ass niggas, I ain't finna do that shit with you. We finna talk about it. Figure out the fuck going on, cuz you pissed on my shoe, nigga, and I need to figure out why. I liked my job and I like working with the kids, but they definitely need to do better training and they need to do better interviews and make sure that these people really want to work with these kids because they be at a point where you change in a life or not.
Speaker 3:Look this shit up and they come with a personal life there there you go, yeah yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:You should have the door when you come in there, and I'm gonna let cast in a minute, go ahead and break some other stuff down, cuz I know you got stories. I'm just gonna. I just looked up, man, do you know it's 14? I'm looking at a 14 weeks for a new hire police officer training all new police officer candidates must attain. I mean attend a tang, a certificate police academy in the state of Michigan 14 weeks is what for a 12 months and a half yeah, three and a half months.
Speaker 1:Are you gonna be out here with my life in your head?
Speaker 2:yeah.
Speaker 1:I agree, ain't no, but this why I say this is the reason why shit happened like that. You mean to tell me, dog, I'm trying to think of a fucking job. It take longer to get an age back to go work on a fucking refrigerator or a fucking um and then you gotta remember, it is people.
Speaker 2:That's why you laugh it's the truth.
Speaker 1:It take more. It take more training. To go work on a fucking oh, the air condition is to be out here to go interact with people that could be doing anything.
Speaker 2:It's that's why what do you think it's? Because being a police officer is probably one of them situations where you you never know what's gonna happen, so you can't really get trained on it. It's kind of like one of them jobs that you got to have experience. Or do you mean more, so like just just the mental?
Speaker 1:part. You do need more training. Any job you do, you gonna need reps. Anything you doing, life, you need reps. You're not gonna come in from up. I can start doing here at 14. They getting reps. As they get older, the more you doing you got to get reps. But that job like that where you got somebody life in your head, you need more mental. The physical easy I ain't shit going to the gun range learn a couple choke not choke cuz that's a little, but couple little restraints and that's it. Easy.
Speaker 1:The beat what he just said to be able to come out there and look at some shit and assess this situation. Can you assess the situation, not coming this bitch already scared? Because if you're scared, why are you here? That's why you say why work at? If you scare the kids, why you here? If you already got a pre-judge, you know you prez against the kid, why are you here? I always said this all the time. I said the kids I had the worst time working with was the mentally real, mentally ill kids. Because I didn't. I didn't have enough experience in that field dealing with the type of kids.
Speaker 2:I love it. I didn't have any experience, but I think I was really good at winging it. I don't work for waylees. I worked for Cal you met I worked for. What's the other one down the down the way? What's the good one for the girls? Mary, mother, sister, mary, some shit like that, what?
Speaker 3:is it called?
Speaker 2:Vista Maria. Yeah, I mean, oh, geez, I hate the facilities. I ain't gonna lie, I hate them. But I worked there because I feel like. But I feel like, I feel like I can I be feeling like I can't. I want to help, like, even if I can just help one person, you know, I'm saying like, out of the whole time I was there, if I only touched five kids out of the 40 that I got in contact with, I'm okay with that type thing see like I use myself.
Speaker 1:That's why I say I work with the kids. I didn't get perfect like mental training from no programming or like that. I was that kid. So when I see, when I see cat, when I see cats getting upset, guess what? I didn't been upset like that. I didn't see my little brother upset like that. I see my little cousin, my big cousin, I see my homeboy it's this. I'm not getting butterflies in my stomach when he get loud, yeah, upset, I get it all right. Let me talk about. I'm looking at other stuff.
Speaker 2:They sweating but that's because you know, I think that is and it's just my opinion again. I think it's because, first of all, you do know what they do hammer in our head at training is that we can't touch y'all. You feel me and for the most part what y'all say is accurate. If ain't nobody here with me and you and you go to the office and be like I'm misty, punch me in my stomach when we was off the cat, they're gonna believe you. So I think a lot of people be scared he said no, no they don't tell y'all that, okay.
Speaker 2:So let me tell you this for real listen, cash, I'm not lying to you. They don't tell y'all that. And I think they don't tell y'all that because maybe they be like you know, I'm saying y'all gonna use it against us because y'all know that. But I swear to you, when y'all go up against us, they believe y'all you know why I? Cast. I know I'm gonna say they're supposed to this is because cask and he keeping it real, there's a post.
Speaker 1:I might get a trophy saying I ain't gonna say I'm name, but cash he is some staff that didn't fuck me up.
Speaker 3:This is, you know what they know. This is right here.
Speaker 1:That's what they say, but guess what? It's? A lot of staff at all facilities feel like this. It's us versus them if some do go down keep your mouth. Should I keep my mouth shut? This story with no? Okay, see what they worried about. They're not worried about who's in the facility. The only people they worried about is licensing. So long as your story good when licensing coming at, bitch you good yeah, no for sure.
Speaker 2:But I definitely seen some people that fuck some motherfuckers up and get away with it and they're supposed to believe y'all. You feel me when I work that way. I don't give a fuck what you say. If this little boy say he spit on me and I hit him back, I hit him back and way these ain't a, ain't a. You know I'm saying locked down facility. So much that's for the kid.
Speaker 2:You know that yeah, way these days you not poking the custom way you can't look at them a fucker wrong, because if they tell on you that way, these different.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm using TV RC high-security high-security, no restraints. No, you can definitely get fucked up in high security and tell them how they tell you about the risk before the restraint even happened, how they be talking to you good, they?
Speaker 3:be talking crazy, like before you from the gear is staying, like they'd be like you know, if we do this to you, right, we gonna fuck you up. We gonna fuck you up, they be they be, they be so serious too. And then it'd be like it'd be like at the same time you already mad, so it don't matter. Like do what y'all gonna do, they don't want to stay, put you in the room. They gonna do everything, they everything. They can't hurt you. I can burn.
Speaker 2:I feel like. I feel like in some cases and I hope I don't look, I hope I don't sound like a what they call it hypocrite, but no, in some cases because, again, we can't sit on ads, but we had to do to, though they used to cut. Every time I came in, that bitch I was like, okay, when we come in here, we know that he finna cut up. This is the dude that peed on my pants. That fucking call me to his window. He called me to his fucking door, and when I got to the door, he pissed down, and you know, the doors got about this much space on there and he just pissing and looking at me and laughing and shit, and I'm like unlock this, nigga door. You feel me.
Speaker 2:So I feel like how they get mad too, though, because I wasn't gonna put my hands on it. But nigga, now I got to exercise what I can't, what I can do, because you think I'm finna, just let you piss on me. So now, when you come up out of here all day, you think you finish this. Do miss summers, though.
Speaker 1:No, I'm like this door and I said this before that they be. Sometimes I'm with like before you got up me and cast is just talking about this makes it true a lot of them, people that work in facilities and stuff like that you don't even have no spanish with them type of kids exactly, so you already you are already scared.
Speaker 1:You're not that type of kid. You already you weren't that type of kid. You're not around them type of kids on a regular. You already scared, and this is it there. There go you like, say me, my director had bumped heads many a times. If somebody sent it to him, he might, when I, when I do get back to work, he might feel certain type of way. We bumped heads many a time because I he said, like look slick stuff to me. Like yeah, I know you from the hood and all that, but I'm a man too. I'm like what that got to do with anything? We just talking. You feel me, but like you know, that's my thing, I'm not scared.
Speaker 2:A lot of them staff that being the same thing with police are telling men them was a kid that was getting picked on by kids like y'all but you know what I can say, that I'm not gonna say I was scared, but how you saying when you not that type of kid and that ain't with you around, it does throw you for a loop when you know that you're a grown woman right, I'm grown as hell, he know I'm grown and cash in here talking to me like I'm a motherfucking kid, like bitch, fuck you, and he, like you do be like wait a minute, like will he hit me? Don't, will he? Cuz you're not used to a kid. You be thinking like ain't no key if any like talk to me like this. And when they do, I don't know if people be scared or if they just be like in shock. I was more in shock like wait a minute, what? Who you? Like? I don't even know what to say cuz I was so shocked like what the fuck do you mean? Why are you talking to me like that?
Speaker 1:like a, b. It's two things I see. When it go left, you either got a staff that's power struggling with the kid, like I just said, like again, he didn't. We didn't have our differences after I had other kids make it. So there's something long as you go on to where you possibly go. We good man let it off.
Speaker 1:I understand, because after you calm down, you got to see me, the rest of this ship in the nurse of the week. We be cool, so I laugh about it. Now you have other staff. You caught him a bitch, your mama's a bitch.
Speaker 3:Then that's why I? Was right, not as good.
Speaker 2:So, so, if you could, so if you could tell a person that wanted to work in the Facility right, notice, ain't a person that want to come in here and make your life horrible. They really want to come in here and help as much as they can. What would you tell a person coming in here to work like? As far as like advice, like like.
Speaker 2:Like do do I come here trying to be our friend? You know I'm sorry. Do I come in this motherfucking be like cash Shit, the fuck down. I'll say nothing. I'm new, I'm here.
Speaker 3:Like what do they do? Don't come here trying to be our friend, but don't come here trying to don't, don't, don't. Let them like run over you type shit, like you got to be. Like fire him, like how mr Williams was who is mr Williams, bobby Frost.
Speaker 2:No, listen, my first day working y'all. So let me tell y'all what I did. I gave somebody some candy. The dude that pissed on my fucking shoe. I gave him some candy. Right, I Knew they couldn't have candy, but, like he said, I'm like they said it's the troublemaker. You feel me.
Speaker 2:This is my first time working with kids, so I'm like I'm gonna give me a little starburst, right, I get his nigga starburst. When it's time for them to come out of the Office, do you know? He gonna tell me he using some extra time on the phone, right. So I'm like, no, you can't do that. He like, yes, I can, because I got this starburst rapper that you gave me and I'm like what he like, yeah, like you gave me, I ain't got no candy.
Speaker 2:I get some candy up in here. They know you had starburst earlier. I was so fucking. I'm like, oh shit, like he's in the blackmail me, right. But then he comes to me at the end of the day and give me the starburst paper. Like I'm just fucking with you, but you ain't supposed to give us no candy. I'm like, damn, I thought I was gonna be fired the first fucking day trying to be his friend and shit. You know I'm saying so like you definitely do have to go in there and learn that shit ain't no easy job. No, I know it ain't easy with adults, because with kids it ain't easy.
Speaker 1:That's why I say they need more Men will train you man. You have to understand that, like I said, you can't come in.
Speaker 3:I'm not mentally prepared, don't come in there that's.
Speaker 1:I always say, like eat, I had days why I had bad days at home and they probably thought I was calling all just to be called up. I called off cuz I knew mentally if I would have came here. I was so off my square it wouldn't. If a kid says something wrong, I probably went the wrong way with the kid. Let me go ahead, take this day off.
Speaker 2:I had days where I was like I'm not ready to go up and I should go in, because my kids eventually got to the point where I was like, man, these niggas make my day. You know. I'm saying like, coming up in here I'm having a fucked up day, but going in here with them, them and listening to them at group had me cracking the fuck up. So now I'm saying some days I'll be like let me just go in here and feel like I miss it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm going back like I said, you know he didn't see me coming up a couple days off and just kick it with him Like what's up? Because again I'm not, I get it. I used to tell them so much about that said mess a lot of. Once you get in here, man Especially them judges and prosecutor they would cook your ass and go home and not even think about you, dog. They thought they go have a good time at the bar. They didn't think you. In this month I could cry you in the cell by yourself, they not even thinking about you. No more dog. You would just a Mean saying so what are you?
Speaker 2:How do you feel now? Like, I mean, nobody is in here saying that they want to go to jail again, but you said that you feel like it helped you a Little bit and now you on the road to doing your music and everything. Would you go back to a facility like that and talk to the kids that's in there?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I probably would. I think that's dope I probably would.
Speaker 2:I think that's really though I did.
Speaker 1:Do you think?
Speaker 2:that? Do you think that you okay, what if it wasn't that facility? What if it was just them saying, like you know, I'm saying we just got a group of boys, we just trying to turn to them because I know that. I know it is if somebody talked to you. Do you think that would have helped a little bit, If you had somebody to tell you what you was doing?
Speaker 3:no, because I had somebody there, but I just won't listen all the time.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I'm mad. I got a teenager. You got me over here from.
Speaker 1:It's it's delicate man. You know it is a very delicate situation, especially when you have a son.
Speaker 2:I'm a single mom and I'm just praying that I'm doing this shit right, because we all know Flint is crazy right now. You know, I'm saying with this gang banging shit, they got going on and I'm just trying to keep my son out of it and it's hard.
Speaker 1:It's your product of your environment and that's that's, I always say, the biggest. Even when I talked to like I'm gonna talk to a couple Judges because they came up there for Graduations on the top of probation officer, all that, workers and stuff and some actually what you think we could do there, I said I don't know how you would go about doing this, but the biggest thing is the disconnect is literally from the facility or the placement to back to the environment. Yeah, I don't care if I had trauma. Let's say I'm 16, my name, whatever, ty Smith, I use that. Just do a name out there, not just nobody's. I know Tyson before just doing that.
Speaker 1:So I'm a little ta ta if I go in here and I come in here to start coming here at 14. I've been in a you know a household where it ain't the right house. All my mom could have been getting abused physically or A minute leave, something like that. My dad ain't there or my dad locked up. I don't got a relationship with him. Yada, yada, yada. I mean you know I'm in the hood that's 14 years already to trauma there. I come in here, I Get in here. I might have one or two staffs that's really trying to fuck with me and teach me. Then the rest of staff just here For a check. You can tell, or you got something.
Speaker 1:I've been what you call it the ones that's on bullshit. That's more trauma. I'm already locked up. That's more trauma. So then when I get back out I'm right back to the same environment where I fucked up at. That's the disconnect. I used to tell them all time understand why they ain't want staffs to stay in contact with kids and stuff like not have kids up. And I said this is stupid as shit ever to me. It was, if I'm this kid, only a male role model. They got in a in a life or somebody that's they can look up to, like yeah, there's somebody going to work, he talking to me, he putting time into me, you know you're best than me. And then I leave the facility I can't get in contact with them on. You gonna send me right back to the same environment why I didn't have a raw male role model because you know they told us.
Speaker 2:But they told us that, cal, you meant that we couldn't know. That's every one of the only person.
Speaker 1:But I don't think that's the only time they could call and they give me he's to call up there, they'll call up a miss woman's to one of them, talk to mr Wells and ask a couple other staff and we'll talk, but that's it. But I, like I said like yeah, it would make sense if I keep in contact with the kid, check up on it. Hey, how you doing. I know why they don't do it because it's the other league alley side of what they started messing with the kid. That's the disconnect. You send the kid right back. 14 trauma, 14 years of trauma. He do a year in here or six months here, go to a placement, come on at 16. So you telling me, in two years we got two years of fix, 14 years of trauma. It's not happening like that. So now you sending right back. But my thing, where he was fucked up at.
Speaker 2:I feel like if I, lord Jesus, I would never fuck with a kid. But I'm just saying I don't think that's a good reason For y'all to not let the workers keep in touch with the kids. If I'm gonna risk it and fuck this little boy, then send my ass to jail after y'all find out. But that's not a guarantee. You know, I'm saying I could. Just he could genuinely be like that's miss summers. You know I'm saying if I'm pissed off, I feel like I'm gonna go rob a nigga. I'm gonna call her. If you telling me that I can't answer the phone for him or he can't call me Now, you didn't risk him going back to jail because what you thought I was gonna that's what that.
Speaker 1:That's what it's about. I'm gonna talk to higher up and it didn't happen.
Speaker 2:You get what I'm saying so, I know it didn't happen. Bitches definitely fuck these kids and these niggas definitely fuck these little girls, but it's not every case. So I just feel like every case is different. So you gonna risk him Going and doing something else because he can't call miss summers, or or hell, she can't call miss summers. So he gonna go do something else because y'all said I can't talk to that's, that's a point of me working here? What's the point of me trying to save somebody when I can't can finish? Finish to save.
Speaker 1:That's why he's shaking his head. That's the disconnect. I could see it. You know. I just send it with kids. Like I said, you send this kid right back to the same environment. If he didn't have a male, he'll mail. Or female, you didn't have a male role model, you don't make found somebody here. Or female role model. You don't find somebody here that you look up to. You respect.
Speaker 2:Then it's gone. Yeah, it sucks yeah that's just.
Speaker 1:It's stupid. One more thing I'm gonna say about it unless you got some more, you want to talk about a cast. Another thing I said it's to do brain the parents in more a lot of parents.
Speaker 1:I say this all the time the most important job you gonna have in your life, if you have a kid, is being a parent. That's gonna biggest job you have in your life. Again there's how much training do a mother get on being a parent? Oh shit, none. No, you are responsible for a whole Now that's having somebody life in your head, nick, yeah, you're responsible for a whole nother fucking kid Right, a whole nother human being.
Speaker 2:And you don't got no training, you just and now a lot of people are having kids as kids. Kids Like so early. Yeah, I don't feel like I'm growing up with my son, but I feel like shit, I'm learning like.
Speaker 1:You are growing up with him, Nick. I'm growing up with you. You are growing up with him. And that's why I always said that brain, the parents, and let the parents come in. You talk with the parent. The parents start against the parents' skills. You in a good environment, the kid can tell them how you really feel.
Speaker 2:A lot of kids don't want to go home and tell their kids how they really feel, because that's where my trauma comes from. Yeah, you don't want to tell your parent exactly how you feel.
Speaker 1:You don't want to be disrespectful, but you want to get yours off. You know if you do say something to them that they might not like they ready to knock your head outside your head to cuss you out. This is the spot where you can do it Safe and then you keep continuing that bridge as you get out. Right, you still can come up here, but I'm going to say this and then, like I said, if you got anything to say about the cast, go ahead. That's why I used to have y'all watch them documentary like 13th Amendment shit like that. Show y'all the corporations how they got invested in shit lawmaking and bills getting passed and shit. This is by design. I should always tell y'all that right, yeah, this is by design. This ain't biting on play. This is by design. This ain't set up for you to really get rehabilitated.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And you know what else I think is stupid. It's this ain't random, but it is random. I think it's stupid that they don't let people like how old are you? Now you said 20. He's old enough to work, right? If he came to GVRC and said I want a job, you know what I'm saying? They're not going to give it to him because he been there, and I think that's so stupid.
Speaker 1:They can do it. They just won't do it. That's what I'm saying. They can.
Speaker 2:Y'all should give him the job, because he knows what's going on. He's been in this situation. I think that about felons period.
Speaker 1:Why do y'all not let the that's too much like? Don't get me started. I'm telling you what it is.
Speaker 2:I hate the fucking system. No, I'm telling you that's too much like rape. I hate the fucking system. And what's the line they be saying? Our fucking justice system is very unjust. What I used to tell y'all all the?
Speaker 1:time cast. If 70%, 50% of y'all start doing crime, we're going to be out of jobs. Hell yeah, I'm out of job. The probation officer out of job the prosecutor out of job and guess what?
Speaker 2:I'm okay with that. Criminal justice.
Speaker 1:The judicial system is a billion-dollar business. If you get 60% of them up and kids start committing crime, 60% of your workforce is gone.
Speaker 2:That's why I was thinking like being a businesswoman. I don't understand how your I mean I get it and I'm a person that say the justice system is unjust for sure. But how y'all mad because Michael Jordan got money in prisons. I would have money in prisons too.
Speaker 1:That wouldn't even Michael. That's another thing I ain't gonna let them drag. It wasn't that it's a white man named Michael Jordan I don't give a fuck who.
Speaker 2:It is why they was mad. If I had enough money to invest in a prison, guess what I'm?
Speaker 3:gonna invest, I'm okay, that's coming from my Caste let's tell y'all.
Speaker 1:I said they won't let me invest in Bob. Barker. Now I tell you what that's a private company. Oh yeah, Bob Barker is the shit I can't get into. Bob Barker Wait wait, wait.
Speaker 2:Did y'all just recently hear that Bob Barker died? No, yeah the man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I did, I did something happen with that man?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Bob Barker man, like who they named it after him. Yeah, he, he's. Something happened to him.
Speaker 1:I used to tell y'all. I tell y'all that all the time, right, I wish I could invest in that motherfucker. I wouldn't work here, no more. I'd put my whole year of checks for one K into that, because I know this is a foolproof plan.
Speaker 2:I think that I'm just gonna start making real, real food for the jails that come as cookups already. You could but this is the thing.
Speaker 1:So they ain't gonna buy, so they ain't gonna buy all that separate shit.
Speaker 2:They can just buy one cookup kit.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna go deep into it. They ain't gonna let you in because you block. You're a black woman.
Speaker 2:They want that shit. I got white. Then we're gonna put white face on it.
Speaker 1:That's what she better do, so anything else, you want to continue to a cash man about being in there.
Speaker 2:Well Cash, I'm proud of you and I don't even. I've only been knowing you for about an hour or two, but I think it's dope that you would go back and talk to kids and help kids out. If I ever need you to talk, I'm gonna have Williams call you, because I think that we should be putting something together like that, especially now.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, man, I talk.
Speaker 2:With the way.
Speaker 1:Anytime I talk to him what I tell you, man, I'm proud of you, Because a lot of y'all don't make it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I told y'all that the statistics and everything didn't I?
Speaker 1:Yeah, a lot of y'all don't make it. And now you get to see what I was saying. Now when I tell you that I said, man, the shit I'm telling you might not catch it right now, but as time gone and Mr Williams, talk, you're gonna live it. I did the same thing with my granddad.
Speaker 3:The thing you said. It just been Constantly.
Speaker 1:Because I did the same shit. I went all the shit. My granddad used to tell me I used to listen to it, but I ain't take it. He said you know what? It'll come back to you because you're gonna live it. And I started living that shit. I said, man, he fuck man, but I'm proud of you, man. So let me know about your music too, man, for the now, man, where we catch you at? Man, where can we catch you at Some of your songs?
Speaker 3:I got a couple songs on Apple Music. I got songs on Spotify, I got songs everywhere, but my main platform now really be focused on YouTube, baby.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm trying to get my YouTube up, baby. So you need a beat. Dude, you need a beat, or can you just freestyle without a beat? These that got bars can freestyle without a beat.
Speaker 3:I do both for real, but I really like having beats though.
Speaker 2:Oh, because you know I was trying to put you on the spot. See, he was about to try to put you on the spot.
Speaker 1:He was gonna try to put you on the spot.
Speaker 2:Because I used to rap and I was gonna just you know what I'm saying. I was gonna have a little battle real quick. No, just for a little bit.
Speaker 3:I wish.
Speaker 2:I could see how he looked over here like bitch, you're right.
Speaker 1:Hey, he ready to get?
Speaker 2:real.
Speaker 3:We can do that.
Speaker 1:Like I said, he can ask these flow man. I used to tell him when he was in SM he asked him to rap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's very hard to come across somebody that got lyrics for real like bars. Seriously, because this music today is bullshit to me.
Speaker 1:so yeah, so man shout out some of the songs. Man, what's the YouTube channel they catch you at.
Speaker 3:Baby Tweak, 9k.
Speaker 1:Topic Okay, and what's some of the? Give us some of your social media handles too, man. What they catch?
Speaker 3:you at Facebook Baby Tweak.
Speaker 2:Is that TWEK? Because I'm looking it up right now. I'm afraid to go on here.
Speaker 3:My Facebook Baby Tweak. My Instagram Baby Tweak 9K. It's really Baby Tweak 9K on all platforms for real.
Speaker 2:Man who Is it mention Baby Tweak.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:It's C-W-E-A-K.
Speaker 1:That's crazy man, because he doing better than court. You see how it's just streamlined, baby.
Speaker 2:Listen, let me tell you this ain't got nothing to do with you, baby Tweak, you not gonna keep throwing shade at my motherfucking friend today because she ain't here. It ain't cuz she here, I say what she here why don't she get her shit like that Instagram? Okay, hold on this Facebook. Oh okay, I was just trying to get to get to so I can follow my man. You feel me? No, I didn't. Oh wait, you got a kid, Uh-huh.
Speaker 2:I was gonna ask you that that's crazy. I forgot I was gonna ask you that that's what's up. Oh, you got a little boy too. Did that change? Did that before we go? Did that change a whole fucking lot when you first saw that baby with you, like I got a change.
Speaker 3:It was like. It was like I just knew I had to. I had to lock in with myself for real Cuz I'm not only doing it for me, no, I'm doing it for somebody else, I'm doing it for another human, I'm doing it for my son. So it's like it's just, it's either. It's either an hour or nothing.
Speaker 2:I like that. I like that. I like that. I respect that. That's a black man stepping up to take care of his fucking kid, changing his ways to be here for his kid. I think it's dope.
Speaker 1:I always say that's my saying, man be the parent that you wanted for your kid. I always say that be the parent that you wanted for your kid, be that or dope, we already friends.
Speaker 3:No, I got my, you got your thing, I got my. Uh, my professional mode on.
Speaker 2:Oh, look okay. Oh that's what that means. So now I don't know if people okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, y'all check my dog, I'm a little old.
Speaker 2:okay, baby Tweet got to help me out. I didn't know you can do that. I thought when I see that shit, that mean me and the person friends.
Speaker 1:Listen, I told, hey, when you blow, remember, mr Wins, man I want us a couple of tickets, man I can swing through, man, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:That's, that's what I'll be looking for. Man, I said a home go all the time. You know I ain't gonna forget about you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll be his friend, so I'll be there because he ain't gonna. He can't forget about me.
Speaker 1:She let me know, let me know.
Speaker 2:So what you been? When I open my facility, I'm going to give you a job. There you go. So even if you don't need no job, still come work and help my kids out. I am.
Speaker 1:So what you been bumping Misty, I'm finna, go listen to baby tweak. Now, so I can see I'm gonna go listen to baby tweak.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna check him out. But you know what? You know that motherfucking 50 and flow Eat. Never I cheat. That's it Got me Go dog. I listen to it all day, I listen to all day. And no, seriously though, all jokes aside, that's one song, but I didn't tap into him and he really hard for real he hard because I like that for next song and that you ain't keeping P. Okay, best thing on that.
Speaker 3:You got a pot scraper. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:He on my phone right now. No, florida, he been for him and Rob for nine. Okay, now I know I ride for nineties of age, all right.
Speaker 1:And I'm gonna give that nigga barely of age. That's okay, he made it, I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck what Rob talking about. He is definitely got added to the list.
Speaker 1:I'm mad at it, I've been, I've been off my dog Premon rice man, real player type shit, he out of DC man, smooth bit, bopping them like pre-mortem to somebody I don't know nothing about because I listen to more non mainstream artists. That's just me, though.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. I'm gonna hear the mainstream artists regardless. I'm gonna hear him if I step out to the club or something like that. I'm gonna hear him regardless. So I'll try to hear things that you know everybody on be up on. That's just me. So, yeah, what can it catch you at Misty?
Speaker 2:They can catch me on all social media platforms at just Misty, that's J U S M Y S T I E. Stay tapped in. I told y'all I got a to be project dropping and a video among one of these rappers video y'all favorite rappers. So make sure y'all tap in, book me.
Speaker 1:Is you?
Speaker 2:twerking on that to it. You know I can't dance. That's why I'm asking no.
Speaker 1:Oh, you just never try to look good yeah that's all I can give them.
Speaker 2:It's a nice ass shot. I can't move it at all and since he brought that up, I'm working on that Getting the anybody. By the time the summer come out for real, for a summer, I'll be twerking on somebody here summer on summer. Oh, that's my new tour. That's the tour summer on summer.
Speaker 1:See you all this summer.
Speaker 2:I like that.
Speaker 1:Well, y'all catch Bobby Frost media on all social media. It's man. That's why I'm all. I want to give a special shout out somewhere where I've been going every Saturday. I'm having a good time there.
Speaker 2:FYI, even going somewhere every motherfucking Saturday and ain't caught me and asked me to meet him now one time. I'm finna, get pissed off in a minute.
Speaker 1:Pull up today because that once we leave that's why I'm headed to a central chop off that one of four, oh, oh okay, yeah, yeah, I'm in a brunch. I'll be in there every Saturday. I'm a regular, so where's the where signature? Chop off the grits.
Speaker 2:Did you taste the fucking grits, bro? Man, listen the grits. Consistency is perfect. Yeah, they be going you should go.
Speaker 1:I'm so that we leave here. I'm there.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna go there.
Speaker 1:So we leave here. I'm there, I got some jeeters she ready, she ready to get my sauce out of the shop. I shot the Gus and Ray man. I keep doing your thing, man, I appreciate it. Y'all niggas, don't come in there fucking it up either.
Speaker 2:They ain't gonna come out there.
Speaker 1:That's flesh, and I know that's why I'm hoping boy man, I've been chilling they go, miss Fisher, right there we talking about justice. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 2:That's it, there you go. All right, all right.