Hey friends, welcome back to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo! I had the pleasure of chatting with Dr. Jeffrey Gross, a pioneer in regenerative medicine and the founder of ReCELLebrate. If you're curious about how stem cells can revolutionize health and anti-aging, this is an episode you don't want to miss!
In this episode, Dr. Gross shares his journey from traditional neurosurgery to becoming a leader in stem cell therapy. We explore the amazing potential of stem cells in treating chronic pain, anti-aging, and even hair restoration.
Dr. Gross breaks down the science in an easy-to-understand way, revealing how stem cells can rejuvenate your body, reduce inflammation, and promote overall health without the need for invasive surgery or pharmaceuticals. You'll hear about real-life success stories and the cutting-edge techniques being used at Recelebrate.
Tune in to discover how stem cells can be a game-changer for your health and wellness. Whether you're dealing with joint pain, looking for anti-aging solutions, or simply interested in the latest advancements in medicine, this episode has something for everyone.
Dr. Gross's passion and expertise are truly inspiring, and I guarantee you'll walk away with a newfound appreciation for the power of regenerative medicine. So, hit play and get ready to be amazed!
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Hey friends, welcome back to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo! I had the pleasure of chatting with Dr. Jeffrey Gross, a pioneer in regenerative medicine and the founder of ReCELLebrate. If you're curious about how stem cells can revolutionize health and anti-aging, this is an episode you don't want to miss!
In this episode, Dr. Gross shares his journey from traditional neurosurgery to becoming a leader in stem cell therapy. We explore the amazing potential of stem cells in treating chronic pain, anti-aging, and even hair restoration.
Dr. Gross breaks down the science in an easy-to-understand way, revealing how stem cells can rejuvenate your body, reduce inflammation, and promote overall health without the need for invasive surgery or pharmaceuticals. You'll hear about real-life success stories and the cutting-edge techniques being used at Recelebrate.
Tune in to discover how stem cells can be a game-changer for your health and wellness. Whether you're dealing with joint pain, looking for anti-aging solutions, or simply interested in the latest advancements in medicine, this episode has something for everyone.
Dr. Gross's passion and expertise are truly inspiring, and I guarantee you'll walk away with a newfound appreciation for the power of regenerative medicine. So, hit play and get ready to be amazed!
Make sure you TAG me when you post on social and once a month, we choose one person who leaves us a review and we'll send you a FREE audible book of your choice!
Speaker 1:
Welcome to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo, where we blend rock-solid tips with a little bit of magic. I'm Renee Bowen, your host, life and business coach and professional photographer at your service. We are all about getting creative, diving into your business and playing with manifestation over here. So are you ready to get inspired and have some fun? Let's dive in. Hey friends, welcome back to Tried and True with a Dash of Woo. I'm your host, Renee Bowen.
Speaker 1:
Today I've got Dr Jeffrey Gross on the show and he is going to talk to us all about stem cells. This is something I have actually been interested in for a really long time, but now in the last two years specifically, and all of the updates and just the technology and how amazing this whole subject is really, I have kind of done a deep dive on it, not only for myself and my health benefits, but for the people in my family. So I am really excited to chat with him today. You guys are going to really really love this conversation. If you've never heard of stem cell medicine or regenerative medicine, you're in for a treat, because he breaks it all down for us. Dr Jeffrey Gross is the founder of Recelebrate and a pioneer and a pattern disruptor in the field of regenerative medicine, With a career dedicated to treating a myriad of chronic health problems, Dr Gross is a sought-after expert, transforming thousands of lives by transitioning from traditional surgical methods to the innovative use of stem cells. He is a neurosurgeon, so he has been practicing medicine a very long time, which I find is really, really interesting.
Speaker 1:
I always love when medical professionals are looking into new and cutting edge things to help us live longer and better lives. Medicine and healthcare are seemingly advancing at the speed of light these days, and some treatments are proving to be real game changers, while others create more confusion than benefit and leave much to be desired. So at Recelebrate, Dr Gross offers precise diagnosis and treatment, revealing patients' stem cells healing power for prolonged health. These cells, when rejuvenated, display powerful anti-aging properties, offering relief and rejuvenation without the need for surgery. So in our chat, Dr Jeff shares all these insights of the holistic applications of stem cells in healthcare, showcasing their potential in adding generational health to generational wealth. So let's dive in. Hey, Dr Jeff, thank you so much for joining us here today. I'm really excited about this conversation. We're going to go deep into some medical stuff, but I know you're going to be able to explain it really well for us. So thanks for being here.
Speaker 2:
I'm very happy to be here. It's great to talk to you and your audience. Thank you.
Speaker 1:
You got it. So I want to just jump right in and kind of find out, like as a how did your journey in medicine lead you into this? Longevity benefits of stem cells and all of that, because that's a whole different thing.
Speaker 2:
Right. Well, I was practicing traditional medicine. I'm a neurosurgeon with a spine specialty. I was taking care of neck and back pain, and I still do, for the vast majority of my career. But it was my patients, many of them, who were in that gap between suffering some type of neck and back pain where the less invasive treatments were inadequate. The injections, the therapies, the medicines, the time, everything they tried just wasn't adequate to fully address their problems. But they didn't find themselves and I agree with them bad enough for surgery, which was the only thing left on the menu. So they would come to me well, how about this? How about that? How about lasers? How about crystals? How about this? How about stem cells?
Speaker 2:
And you know, my undergraduate background is in is in that type of molecular biology, cellular biology field, and I was sort of Always wanting to get back into that. So it just kind of came together old, you know stodgy neurosurgery conferences. I started going to stem cell conferences and taking educational courses, continuing education, stem cell biology and regenerative medicine, and I got into it for the spine. But I'm doing so much more now and I feel like my career is reinvigorated. Every day is exciting and different and I love it again. I have a renewed sense of enthusiasm.
Speaker 1:
That's really cool and very important. Obviously, you know like loving what you do Because is it because you're seeing such awesome results from people with this? Is that they're having like life changing results?
Speaker 2:
In part, but it's seeing the results with you know, no pharmaceuticals and the least invasion and non-surgically like I'll putting that all together it gives new options for things and and and it's creating new projects for me and my patients. So we're working on all kinds of great projects and research too. Patients so we're working on all kinds of great projects and research too.
Speaker 1:
That's very cool. So, all right, Demystify this whole process, for, like those of us like I definitely have been looking into stem cells for a while.
Speaker 1:
So I mean, I'm by no means an expert but, I, at least have a little bit of knowledge, because I do think that it's fascinating and I'm a big proponent of trying to not go the pharmaceutical route if possible, even in terms of the anti-aging or whatever quote unquote anti-aging stuff. I'm not a Botox girl. I don't do fillers, stuff like that. I mean to each their own, it's just not my thing. So I have definitely been looking into the whole stem cells and I had knee problems so I was always looking into it thing. So I have definitely been looking into the whole stem cells and I had knee problems so I was always looking into it there. But I know a lot of people don't really know a lot about this yet. So you know, let's kind of maybe demystify the science behind harnessing your own stem cells for health.
Speaker 2:
Absolutely so, and stop me if I get too far into it and we could take this in chunks. But our bodies have stem cells in them and when we're a fetus, we're all stem cells. You know, we're an embryo and these stem cells are creating us and they're developing into different types of tissues and organs and limbs and everything we need. And then when we're born, we're still using those stem cells to create us and when we're fully grown, we still have stem cells that we use to renew our tissues, that help us heal if we need them, that renew our immune system. I mean we have these banks of cells that renew our immune system. I mean we have these banks of cells.
Speaker 2:
Well, as we age, or the reason why we age is we're exposed to the environment, the world, in what we eat, what we drink, what's in our water, what we're missing in our nutrition, and our body is busy defending against the world, and that's called the inflammatory response and that inflammation leads to aging, it leads to chronic diseases and it affects our cells and our stem cells and our stem cells become less useful in healing or preventing problems and it's slower to heal.
Speaker 2:
If you look at a three-year-old who scratches his knee on the sidewalk and he cries. Mom puts a Band-Aid on it, sends him on his way. A few days later that Band-Aid falls off in the bathtub and the scab is almost healed, whereas if you do that to a 75 or 80-year-old, that same injury will take weeks to fully heal. And the difference there is cellular, and particularly stem cellular, activity. So those stem cells have the ability to renew, to divide, to create and replace tissues. So when we talk about regenerative or stem cell medicine, we're talking about leveraging that knowledge and using it to our advantage to accelerate healing or fight diseases or help with those kinds of things.
Speaker 1:
Nice and we can use our own stem cells, correct or, like I know, there's various types of stem cells.
Speaker 2:
You can use your own, but when you change the oil in your car, you don't put the oil back in. When you change the oil in your car, you don't put the oil back in. Now I say that funny. There are many applications for using your own stem cells and there are benefits in the literature. Just, you know, in my view you know, maybe oversimplified if you're going to do this, if you're going to jump in and do this, why not use the best, youngest source? And that comes from ethically donated placenta, umbilical cord, amniotic fluid after a mother delivers by C-section. So we could take away those other myths out there regarding this.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, that's really important. I wanted to make sure, sure, we covered that Fun fact back in 1998, when we had our first son, and it was literally just sort of like. I don't even remember where I got the information, but I was a massage therapist for a while and I was definitely in the LA holistic scene in the 90s, so I must have come across it at some point where they said, well, you can, you know, you can store the cord blood, you can do your cord blood storage. And back in 1998, that was really new, so it was really inexpensive Like I think it only cost us like $300 to get to collect it. And then we are locked in for life at $50 a year at this lab. So we still have his cord blood frozen in a lab. So we still have his cord blood frozen in a lab. And I'm like, okay, you know, not really sure what, but what you know.
Speaker 1:
At that time they were saying this could cure cancer. Like you could. You know, god forbid, something happens. You never know. You know when that would come in handy. And so I was like, well, maybe we should just do it. So we do have it. But I think that's really and it's interesting because that's my son with autism. So I've always thought like I wonder if there's, you know, because I know like there's inflammation in the brain and stuff like that and he's definitely come a long way Like he's he works, he has a job he's, you know he's great, but health wise I'm like that might.
Speaker 2:
unfortunately, come in handy one day. Yeah, I know the reason. We did core blood storage years ago. You got a great price, by the way. Yeah, the reason we did that was there was a new protocol for treating childhood leukemias blood-borne cancers and to do that you have to just kill all their bone marrow and you have to completely replace it with what's called a bone marrow transplant, which does have to be a match, and we'll come back to that concept in a second bank of hemopoietic stem cells, which is the type of tissue that you put in your bone marrow and it creates your immune system and then your blood cells and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:
And the easiest way to do that is from your umbilical cord. Now there are newer uses for your own umbilical cord. You can have your own stem cells. There are labs now that will, you know, take some of those and grow them in petri dishes to divide and expand them and give them back to you. But you don't need to have a match. For most of regenerative medicine. You can have someone else's, because the immune system they don't get identified as foreign because they haven't decided what kind of cell to be yet. So these stone cells are protected or privileged, we should say.
Speaker 1:
That's really interesting. That's really really cool. So where you're at with what you do at ReCelebrate, what do you guys mainly use this technology for and what do you see patients for?
Speaker 2:
earlier, you know, to help my patients with spine problems right Spinal pain and didn't want surgery. But it's blossomed into first other musculoskeletal structures and, like you said, you've had PRP. Prp is sort of a low level regenerative medicine and then you know there are a couple steps above and we do those steps and they could be stem cells or stem cell signaling factors, called exosomes, which maybe we'll get into in a little bit, and the. So we do a lot of joint work and but we also it's blossomed into this whole you know cell health, cellular health or cellular metabolism or anti-inflammatory sort of arena, which really overlaps with anti-aging medicine or longevity medicine.
Speaker 2:
Because anything you do that helps fight chronic inflammation, the source of aging and disease, most diseases, then you're helping to live longer and live healthier, not just longer but good years, healthy, quality years. So we're doing, you know, iv things. We also have sexual health shots called P shots and O shots, with these to help both the men and the ladies. And then we also have some cosmetic things we do for skin rejuvenation and for thinning hair, and I've had some of those back here on my scale as well, yeah.
Speaker 1:
That's what I'm talking about. I'm 53, so that stuff is very top of mind for me and I'm not looking to do a lot of intervention. But if I were, that's the kind of stuff that I feel like would make the biggest difference, Because it's not that invasive and it's not, like you said, like super pharmaceutical right, Like so that no pharmaceutical.
Speaker 2:
All natural. It's as natural as you can get. It's a biologic right.
Speaker 1:
I love that. Yeah, I know when we were doing the PRP for my knees my surgeon was trying to get stem cells but insurance and stuff like that. So can you talk a little bit or speak to a little bit about how that sort of works? I know that a lot of this isn't obviously super covered by insurance, at least not yet.
Speaker 2:
Maybe it'll change.
Speaker 2:
It may change. There are a lot of political and economic influences from big pharma and companies that make screws and rods to put inside the body. Here's the way out. Because none of the claims are yet approved, the insurance company says, well, we're not going to pay for it. Right, it's all about what they say you can say or they say you can't say so.
Speaker 2:
So just to be upfront, you know the FDA has not approved any claims, so I can't guarantee that anything here will treat or cure anything. But as a physician, I've never guaranteed, you can never guarantee. You know it's a practice, it's a trial. So, nonetheless, even PRP, which you've had maybe insurance helped pay for, is not approved by the FDA for claims. So you're right, there's a little budge into what they will approve because the insurance companies figured out that PRP is potentially more effective and less expensive than jumping to surgery. Not that there's a role for surgery for some folks, Of course there will always be that but they looked at the cost savings because, at the end of the day, that's all they really care about. They looked at the cost savings because, at the end of the day, that's all they really care about. So insurance does not yet cover any of this unless you have what's called an HSA plan or health savings account plan, where you, as you should, be able to control the flow of your health care dollars.
Speaker 1:
Interesting, yeah, yeah, I do think that, like you said, it's kind of ever-changing and we'll have to see kind of how that goes. But I do think it's fascinating because a doctor that I know has said that he has seen people like literally just not need anything else after this, and that's the other part of it is that it gets you better. So there's that.
Speaker 2:
That's. You know Big Pharma doesn't love that. We can't claim it. But I have the same experience as your friend because we have. I'm amazed sometimes by the simplicity and the results.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that's what I've heard kind of across the board, so that's really interesting. Is it a one size fits all sort of approach, Like when someone comes to see you? Obviously, you know, as a doctor I'm sure it's not just like a hey, here's what we're going to do for you, and it's just like everybody else.
Speaker 2:
No, no, we really like to use what's called precision medicine and individualize the care. Even even if you do end up with something that's the person next to you ends up with. You know, we want to make sure that the person is optimized in their inflammatory state. That means their diet is good, their sleep is good, their nutritional gap meaning supplements are ideal. Maybe hormone optimization is in place, because if we're going to deliver these regenerative biologics, we want the body and the cells to be most receptive so you get the best benefit. So there's a lot of work to do ahead of time, quite a bit.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, Now I know you guys you're located in Las Vegas, is that right?
Speaker 2:
Right.
Speaker 1:
Yeah. So I mean, I'm sure you get people who do visit you from everywhere, but are you seeing, like if someone is interested in this, let's just say, like if someone listening is interested in pursuing some sort of regenerative medicine in this way, whether it's for, like we were talking about, joint related stuff or anti-aging what would be their first step in finding someone and what should they look for? And like, vet the people who are doing it, cause I know there are going to be some people popping up doing this and got to make sure it's legit.
Speaker 2:
It's a great question. So do your homework. You know you can do this online. Now the only caution there is a lot of the places outside the U? S have been doing this longer, but they're not. They don't have to be cautious with claims and you see a lot of websites that say we cure diabetes and things like that. So just be cautious and do your homework and look at the different type of regenerative biologics they have experience with.
Speaker 2:
Is it PRP, is it stem cells? And where do they get those cells from? That's important. And do they expand those cells? I'll come back to that if you want. And then the last regenerative probably the most advanced regenerative biologic are called exosomes, and exosomes are small not that cells aren't, but even smaller grouped signaling factors that are used for cell-to-cell communication, and those end up being, at the end of the day, really what's doing the work? So we jump ahead and use. Most of our patients receive exosomes. They travel further in the body, they penetrate tissue better, they last longer, they're easier to handle and they're half the price of the cells oh, okay, talk to me about that and um, and also, like you said, lasting longer.
Speaker 1:
So, like, how long on average do you see them last? Like, is this something you have to continue doing?
Speaker 2:
well, the goal with let's take a joint, because it's probably our most popular thing to do A lot of knee problem, people trying to avoid surgery, you see bone on bone, osteoarthritis, wearing and tearing of the meniscus, that kind of thing for a knee, for example, so something like that the goal is to do one injection and be done, so there's an initial anti-inflammatory benefit. People have improvement in pain and function right away, and then it usually takes months for them to see the cartilage begin to restore. And we do have really cool examples of MRIs we've done later just to see where the thickness of the cartilage is improved, just to see where the thickness of the cartilage is improved. So this is, you don't see, you don't hear about this from your, your neighborhood orthopedic doctors. And the problem is that and I was that guy right, I was.
Speaker 2:
I was trained in the 90s by people who were trained in the 60s and 70s and we were doing the same thing that they were doing, you know, 50, 60 years earlier, because not a lot moves forward unless someone takes a leap or a jump. So so when you find these doctors in your area who are doing regenerative medicine, make sure they have the full experience where they've. They've, they've done the old stuff and they know the difference between this newer biology and they understand the biology of it, between this newer biology and they understand the biology of it.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that's very important. So, yeah, I definitely can see the benefits there. As far as you know cause I was definitely in that place I was nowhere, like my surgeon was like you, you're too young for a double knee replacement, but that's exactly where you're headed. And you know my mom has bad knees. I've got bad knees. My mom did just have a double knee replacement, but she's a lot older and I didn't want to go that route. So I was like, okay, like what else can I do? Like I just started looking at all of these different things.
Speaker 1:
So the PRP was like the one that was able to help me, just at least get it, you know, sort of under control. But stem cells are definitely at the top of my list, like I said. I mean they have helped my knees tremendously. Like the inflammation is like night and day, and that was even two years ago. So that's good, because PRP doesn't normally last and sometimes it doesn't even take. You know what I mean Because, like you said, it's like a low level, not as robust as what you guys are doing. So I definitely still would like to do that. I'm getting some arthritis in my thumbs. That's also on my list and I, like I said, let's talk a little bit about the, the anti-aging stuff, because that to me and and I think a lot of people in my audience are going to find that interesting as far as like skin stuff, right, does it help actually regrow collagen, like what does it do? Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2:
It improves collagen production and elastin production so you have both structure and elasticity. It it also improves the skin health because it stimulates your, you know, dermal cells that make the epidermis so it's more, you know, hydrated skin, better looking skin, smoother skin. It helps fight against fine lines and wrinkles and pigmentation because healthy, you know, melanin producing cells will be more uniform. So you have more uniform skin color. And if for hair, it'll stimulate, if you have follicles, it'll stimulate the follicular health as well. We've seen this in some patients the color of your hair, because the follicle usually has associated pigment cells, melanin producing cells, and if you catch those and they haven't died, they haven't gone into complete senescence, you can help reduce the inflammation and improve their function basically.
Speaker 2:
So we can't take a bald person and grow hair with what we have available to us. We can't take a bald person and grow hair with what we have available to us. Now there are new kinds of stem cells that are being worked on, called induced pluripotent stem cells. Those are too experimental for us to feel safe using them in this setting, but they may be able to restore follicles. So we have new things coming. We're just we're just scratching the surface really.
Speaker 1:
That is really exciting. That's very, very cool, like I know. You know just like going through menopause and stuff definitely have gotten thinner hair. So you're saying that people who like before, if you catch the hair before it goes gray, you can actually stop it. We've actually seen some reversal.
Speaker 2:
To be honest, really, yeah, and I have to. One of my favorite stories is one of our nurses here in the office brought her father in from out of town. He was over 80, I believe, and he was. He was just sort of losing his energy. So we did an anti-aging IV on him and he had all kinds of benefits and his gray hair started to turn black from the IV just one IV. All right One IV.
Speaker 1:
Okay, well, you're only like three and a half hours from me in Vegas, so I will be coming to see that doesn't happen with everybody.
Speaker 2:
but it's amazing and it just shows you the power of what or the damage that inflammation is doing to us, and the power of fighting that inflammation.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that is inflammation is so huge, like, wow, that inflammation yeah, that is inflammation is so huge Like wow, that's that's really I didn't realize that stem cells dealt with that. Like I didn't realize that was part of it. And inflammation you hear that all the time. I mean that's definitely I had because I have Hashimoto's. So you know, if you have an autoimmune disease of any kind, yeah, Deal.
Speaker 2:
So so you think about it. Cells have two main programming modes. They're either in defense mode, which is inflammatory because it calls for the immune system that's the inflammation we're always fighting against our environment. Or in autoimmune you have a hyperinflamed state that you didn't ask for, that got triggered. Or you have this optimally functioning mode, which involves cell repair and involve it's anti-inflammatory right. You're making antioxidants. Most of our repair ourselves do at night. So people that don't sleep as much have more inflammation or don't sleep restoratively have more inflammation. So, as an example but you're absolutely right, we need to use whatever we can to keep ourselves away from the inflammatory programming.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, it's huge. I've just seen that I mean, like I've reduced my inflammation so much in just the last two years and it's made an incredible impact on my health, like incredible. So I I believed it before, but I've actually experienced it across the board. So, like, even just with diet you know people listening like there's a lot of ways you can reduce your inflammation as well, but this I had no idea it really actually did all of that as well. So, do you guys do? I'm sure it's probably a whole array of things. But like, as far as like the aesthetics yeah, you have ivs, obviously, but do you do like injections and facials and all that kind of stuff too, or no, we're not we're not really like, uh, in aesthetics, uh, uh, you know, um, we don't do facials and the kind of thing you get usual esthetician.
Speaker 2:
But we can do the medical side of it. So we will do, uh, the micro injection, um, so we have a micro injector, we numb the face and we'll, we'll put exosomes, uh, and some hyaluronic acid serum and inject the face and wherever you need it, and similarly we inject the scalp for the thinning hair, um, and then the, the joint work is actually done at an injection facility with a little sedation. We do spine and joints there and then everything else is IV, which we can do in the office.
Speaker 1:
Oh, that's really cool. Yeah, I didn't realize that it was like that accessible, so that's really good to know. Okay, so what would you say to people who are skeptics about this?
Speaker 2:
Well, I was a skeptic until about six years ago when I finally decided to jump into it and get involved. So it's typical, it's part of the Kool-Aid, it's what we've been indoctrinated, it's what a doctor who's been trained, you know five, 10 years or earlier will say. So most physicians, including myself. At the time I was saying, well, it's not really here yet it's coming. It's interesting. But when you look at the literature and most of the literature, the medical literature comes from Europe and Asia. They have 15 and 20 year follow-up studies. They've been doing this for two decades with success. So all the protocols that we follow are founded in science and protocols that have been done and proven and shown safe and effective results.
Speaker 1:
Nice, okay. So tell people like what would you? So if someone is just like on this journey and they're like, okay, I'm definitely interested, what would be the first step for someone? Obviously, we said you know, do your research, but you know where, where can people find you learn more about re-celebrate. What would be their, their next step in that process?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, no, I well. I love to meet new people, so we we do plenty of remote and online Zoom consultations, just like this we get to know people.
Speaker 2:
We go through their lives, you know medical problems. We go through their supplements, their diet, their sleep, their exercise regimen. We try to help them, you know, take advantage of tips and missing elements. There we talk about hormone optimization, and for both men and women and that could be for women even before menopause, and men now in their thirties and forties are doing it. So and we can talk about peptides and other things that are sort of cutting edge and controversial. They're only controversial, of course, because of the regulation that are imposed upon them, but they're worthy of discussion.
Speaker 2:
Peptides are small protein fragments that can help our body function, heal and do what it was designed to do or used to do better. For example, we've all heard of ozempic or semaglutide. That's a peptide. Right, we take melatonin at night. That's a peptide. There are a lot of peptides, so there are many more peptides that are not sort of readily available, however, but they can be obtained, and then you know if someone's a candidate, we'll discuss the options for generative medicine, whether it be for a knee or a shoulder or a toe or what.
Speaker 2:
Have you a spine problem? And if we can confirm the source of the problem and match it up with some really good MRI images and correlate the pain to the problem and the problem to the pain, then we might offer something injectable for that. Not everyone's a candidate. I have more confidence in talking to some people about the results I would want to see compared to others based on their MRI or how bad things are. But most of the joint work is we try to do in one injection. But if it's really bad and six or 12 months later they're not exactly where they want to be, we can look at it again. That's not impossible and we just invite people out to here, to the office, which is in Henderson, nevada, outside Las Vegas, when, when people are candidates and want to make the trip and and we've had a lot of people don't mind coming to Vegas, spend the weekend, have a dinner, see a show, and then we'll take care of things here.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on and letting us know about all this. This is like really exciting stuff and I feel like it's just going to grow like really fast and exponentially, hopefully, because I feel like it's like we were talking about before non-invasive, natural. Just such a great solution, I think, across the board.
Speaker 2:
So, thank you so much for filling us in my pleasure and honor to be here. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1:
I don't know about you guys, but I found that incredibly interesting and I'm not joking I absolutely will be going to see him. As a girl who doesn't do Botox or fillers, I can absolutely get on board with this and I really do think that, as far as the longevity of the results, yeah, I'm sold. I'd rather do this, even if it costs more upfront, than go and do Botox every six months. I'm not saying that doing Botox is bad. You do you. It's just not for me. So this seems kind of cool. I'm definitely going to be checking into it. This seems kind of cool. I'm definitely going to be checking into it. And you know, as, as somebody who has had like incredibly bad knee pain and was told that you know I needed surgery to just see the results I had from PRP, I can only imagine the results from stem cells. So I am absolutely looking into that.
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For my thumbs, I don't know about you guys, but like my thumbs and I know it's overuse in addition to camera, because I'm always holding the camera right and it's heavy, I think it's the phone and the computer Both of my thumbs have just like just gone to hell basically in the last probably year, year and a half and they're getting worse. So I had spoken to my doctor about that a little while ago and even he was like, yeah, you need to look into some stem cells because that'll absolutely fix it. So, yes, sign me up. Anyway, I hope this was really insightful and interesting for you guys and I have all the information on how you can get in touch with Dr Jeff below if you're interested in going to see him or doing a consult on Zoom. So all of that is going to be there for you guys and I look forward to chatting with you guys, seeing you guys soon. Have a great week, love you, bye.