Own Your Inner Magnetism & Become The Most Interesting Person in the ROOM with Jocelyn Sandstrom

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In this episode of Tried & True with a Dash of Woo, I’m joined by the incredible Jocelyn Sandstrom, Founder of Wellness and Metaphysical, a community-driven platform promoting higher consciousness through expos and retreats. 

Since 2010, Jocelyn has provided Quantum Energy Sessions and taught Neuro-Linguistic Programming, Neurological Re-patterning, and Millennium Method to clients globally. She specializes in coaching and mentoring others to release deep-rooted issues, building next-level success and deep fulfillment.

Highlights from the Episode:

1. Defining Inner Magnetism:
2. Energetic Presence and Attraction:
3. Overcoming Energetic Blocks:
4. Techniques for Enhancing Magnetism:
5. Real-Life Examples of Magnetism:

Join us for this enlightening conversation and learn how to own your inner magnetism and become the most interesting person in the room. Jocelyn’s wisdom and insights will inspire you to step into your power and create the life you desire.

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• Website: https://wellnessandmetaphysical.com/ 
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jocelynlukosandstrom/

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

When I was being rushed to the emergency room from my last miscarriage, in my mind I just kept saying this is happening for me, not to me. This is happening for me, not to me. To be able to transmute it so that you don't get caught up in all the fears and the drama and all the things and cause all this unnecessary fallout that you then have to clean up, if you trust that it's for you. And, like I said, each trigger, each opportunity, each, anything that happens, abandonment, rejection, those are all gifts to us to show us what's not in alignment and when we can look at life through those eyes, so much of the pain and suffering goes away. Right, pain is inevitable, pain will always happen, but we make suffering, we hold the suffering here.

Speaker 2: 0:44

Welcome to Tried and True with a dash of woo, where we blend rock solid tips with a little bit of magic. I'm Renee Bowen, your host, life and business coach and professional photographer at your service. We are all about getting creative, diving into your business and playing with manifestation over here. So are you ready to get inspired and have some fun? Let's dive in. Hey friends, welcome back to Tried and True with the Dash of Woo. I'm your host, renee Bowen.

Speaker 2: 1:14

Today I have a guest that you are going to absolutely love. Her name is Jocelyn Sandstrom, and let me just tell you a little bit about her, because I don't love to like spend a lot of time I don't know if you guys have noticed this because I don't love to spend a lot of time. I don't know if you guys have noticed this, but I don't like to spend a lot of time having them talk about their backgrounds too much. Most of my guests. I like to just kind of dive into the topic and get to the meat of the conversation. So I like to kind of give you a little bit of information about the guest when I'm sort of introducing them. So I don't know if you guys have noticed that, but let me know some feedback if you have that for me, if you like that, if you think that's valuable. Personally, I don't really want to eat up 10, 15 minutes of the podcast of going into background, unless it's like super relevant to the topic that we're sort of talking about. But maybe that's just me, I don't know. Let me know. So Jocelyn lives in Hawaii and she grew up in Hawaii.

Speaker 2: 2:12

She's lived and worked in 12 different countries and that experience has allowed her to realize that, even though we may speak different languages or have different traditions, at our core we're all the same. Since 2010, she's been providing quantum energy sessions and teaching neuro-linguistic programming, neurological repatterning and the millennium method to clients globally. In 2022, she founded Wellness and Metaphysical, a community-driven platform that promotes a higher level of consciousness through expos and retreats. She's a certified teacher and practitioner of Advanced Neuro-Linguistic Programming, NLP, neurological Repatterning, erickson Hypnosis and the Millennium Method. She's also certified in Reiki. So she and I have some very similar certifications some very similar certifications and we are very much of the same mindset.

Speaker 2: 3:10

Jocelyn specializes in helping clients release deep-rooted issues from their past that are holding them back Again something I am so on board with and she supports clients in building not just success but also fulfillment at the same time, because success without fulfillment is empty, leading to burnout and anxiety. She supports her clients to discover their authentic truth and share that with the world, magnetizing their energy to start attracting people and opportunities out of the blue, enabling them to fall in love with themselves and their life, while creating more success than ever before. And that is exactly what our conversation is mainly centered on. We kind of dance around a few different things because, like I said, we've got a lot of the same beliefs and certifications and we're definitely on the same frequency, but we really kind of wanted to focus this conversation on magnetism how to become magnetic and draw people to you, how to use synchronicity and how to tune in to your highest and best self.

Speaker 2: 4:10

This is a really awesome episode. I hope you enjoy it. Let's dive in. Jocelyn, thank you so much for being here today. This conversation is going to be fire. I know it because we have so much in common and, energetically, I just feel like this is so aligned. So, on those terms, I want to just jump right in and ask okay, in terms of energy, we're going to be talking about energetic stuff today here, guys. So, in terms of energy, what does it mean to you to be one of the most powerful people in the room, energetically Like? How do you measure that?

Speaker 1: 4:49

So for me I would say you know, if you're in a room and you're eating in a restaurant or wherever you are, and then, for whatever reason, you gaze over and you see someone that's just magnetic and you don't know why, you look over and you just want to stare at them, or you're just attracted to them, or you want to get to know them, not out of you know, like a relationship way, but just out of, like wow, that power, that person is magnetic. You don't know what they do, you don't know what their occupation is or anything, but you can feel their energy. That's what I'm talking about when it's like the most powerful person in the room. It's not like a ego, narcissistic proving power, it's this subtle, like they're in their inner power. They know it, they lean back in their power and they just walk in and they're just there and that's the inner power, the most powerful person in the room, magnetic, that I love to aspire to.

Speaker 2: 5:43

I do too, and I'm so fascinated by it because you know it's all energy right, like we are. This microphone is like everything, and so I really believe too that when we're like really living in our highest expression of ourselves, it's sort of effortless to exude that resonance, right, because it's like a radio signal is what I'm always sort of like telling my clients, what kind of radio signal are you beaming out? And it really depends on how you're feeling and how you're aligned and all that stuff. So, in your experience, what does it mean? Like what are some of the most common actually the most common like energetic blocks that would prevent somebody from becoming that powerful presence.

Speaker 1: 6:35

Well, I think you actually hit the nail on the head when you said it's when they're being, when they're in it, when they're living their fullest potential. Because it doesn't matter who you are, you can be magnetic. I I was at a restaurant and there was this little girl that was just dancing and she was just dancing and she was just in it and I just kept looking because she was just in it, like you can see, when someone's like feeling it and alive and in their power and confident and that, to me, is what's attractive that that becomes your calling card for friendships, for relationships, for business, for anything, and then it does just become effortless, it just becomes you embodying, living your best life and then becoming. You know that quote stop chasing butterflies. Build your garden and let the butterflies come to you. That's basically what I consider. This is you just do you the best you can, not focusing on all the other things, not focusing on fixing the other things, fixing other people. If that person's better than this, will get better. It's all down to us. And the more we do us, the best that we can, the more that we attract, but also the more we ripple. So you know, even, for instance, if you have stuff with family, instead of, like, always trying to fix the stuff in the family, realizing that everybody is exactly perfect, as they're meant to be, on their journey and we get to grow together. So I don't need to worry about anybody, I just need to do me and then let that ripple out and whatever it's going to do is going to do that and then, like you said, it's just effortless and it's embodiment.

Speaker 1: 8:11

But the biggest key point of that is getting to know you, because if we're living for the external and for the validation and for the proving, the pleasing, achieving, we're never going to be in our truth. And I feel like that's why there's so much mental illness today is because we grew up in a very externally validated culture and everything was about your grades and your scores and you know fitting into this box. But I would say 80% of us don't fit into that box, you know. Even look at our careers are not in that box that we grew up in. So technically we wouldn't have been successful, you know in those terms, if we just lived according to those external validations.

Speaker 1: 8:53

So once we can realize, okay, as children we do live through external validation, but as we pass into adulthood. We get to give ourselves permission, we get to validate ourselves. We get to go inwards and discover what our truth is. What does success really look like to us? Not what it looks like to everybody else, but what does it look like to us. What is our strategy? Not someone else's strategy that worked for them, but what is our strategy.

Speaker 1: 9:18

And so you go on this journey of self-discovery and you find what that is, and then you strengthen yourself with your inner power to trust yourself, to then take those crazy leaps that you normally wouldn't, that other people would think are crazy, and then that's how you create this next level. That then just becomes so magnetic because you're living your truth like you're embodying it. You're living it. You're the master alchemist. You transmute everything. You know that you're unstoppable because nothing's going to stop you. You know where you're going and everything along the way is just like a little rock that gets in the way. But you don't like fall on the rock, beat yourself up because you fell on the rock, or beat the rock up. You just it's rock, transmute it and keep going. You know.

Speaker 2: 10:03

Yes, okay, so a lot to sort of unpack there. I want to kind of go back a little bit to what you were talking about as far as, like that external validation, because I feel like and I know you probably see this a lot in your work, I know I see it a lot in my work, especially working with creatives as their coach and photographers as well as their coach and photographers as well as their coach this we are sort of like programmed for this external validation of everyone else. Right Like it's. And I know social media, all those things.

Speaker 2: 10:34

But I think we kind of get stuck. I know a lot of us do get stuck in this place of, well, I need to be everything to everyone, I need to be all the things and I need to attract all the clients and everyone needs to work with me. And why didn't that person book with me? I must be like the most awful, whatever, and we internalize that and that's all ego. Right Like it's. So like us, us, us, us, us. And then we get stuck in that and then we're not because we're not operating from that true like energetic, highest expression of ourselves, resonance in that moment, because if we were, it wouldn't be about us Like it's a little out there, but I really see that so much.

Speaker 2: 11:20

And one of the main things I try and get across to people is well, first of all, you are not right that saying you were not for everyone. You really really aren't, and so. But we can consciously know that we can see the quote, we can be like, yep, that totally, we can save it on Instagram, we can post it. We're like yes, but then when it comes into like, oh, but how do I like actually live that? How do I actually live that? And you know, feel that so that I am speaking to the right people and that I'm okay, that I'm not for everybody, right? So is it like that connection between energy levels and attracting the right opportunities? Like, how do you describe that connection and how do you work with people to align that so that they, first of all, attract the right people and, second of all, feel good about it and like let the rest fall away?

Speaker 1: 12:20

Does that make sense yeah, 100 million percent. And, of course, exactly what you said when you're trying to be everything to everyone, you water yourself down. When you're doing a post and you're trying to reach everybody, you're not going to actually reach the person that you actually desire to reach out to. So if you're writing your post, if you get very clear with who it is that is your person and you get the message as clear as possible for that person, that's all that matters. So you just think about who it is that you want to reach out to, who you want to help, who you want to serve, who you want to bring value to, and then you do it for that person, knowing that it's not about the likes, knowing that it's not about whether people are going to like it or not, because it doesn't matter. When I first started posting more deep, like deeper things, and when I shifted from my career my last career to this career, I had lost a ton of followers, and it and it didn't bother me, because I knew that I had to lose in order to gain the ones that actually were my people, right, Because I came from a different industry into this industry. And so to me, it's not about the amount, it's about the quality, it's about the value that I bring, knowing that if you just bring that value every single day, you will find your people. You may not have them there right now, but if you water down your truth, you'll never be able to find your true, true people because you're watering it down, because you're trying to fit everybody's box. So once you realize that I don't need to be everything to everyone, I just need to be of the best value to my people and show up that way every single day, whether it's for your business, your relationships. It's kind of like when you go on a date and you are trying to get the person to like you versus like, hey, you know what, I'm powerful, my life is amazing and I'd love to discover if we're a fit so that we could co-create something together, and the conversation goes so different than if you're just like oh yeah, what does he want to hear? You know, what are the things that I say that's going to make them like me and they will like you. But it's not deep, it's not. It could be very temporary, it could not last very long. So when you're building your business, at the same thing you want to build that long term because you can't sustain the facade or it doesn't feel so fulfilling right and you can't get to the root of it. So that to me, is one of the biggest things.

Speaker 1: 14:45

And then just doing so much inner work Like I do a lot of reprogramming in my programs to go back to childhood or past lives or your mother's womb, to go back and remove these old beliefs, to shift them out, to install new ones, to really own your magic, to stand in your power. And, like I said, the key is not just standing in your power, because when you're standing in your power, sometimes you still need to validate, you still need to prove that yeah, I'm powerful, right, it's like standing in your power and leaning back into it. If you think about like the black belts, there's a huge difference when you in a black belt energy versus a beginner, because they just walk in, there's a presence, there's a knowing and they don't need to prove anything because they feel it inside. And when you can master that in your everyday practice, you become an energetic match for your clients. So then they just start flowing in or the relationships start flowing in. Once I started doing this work, the most incredible people showed up in my life just completely out of the blue because I was doing the work.

Speaker 1: 15:46

So we, who we are, is like we put out, like you said, that signal, that energetic signal, and so who we really truly believe about ourself is the people we're going to attract, not what we think we want to believe, but who we really are inside, when, the, when no one's around you know, like the thoughts in our head. So doing the reprogramming on all of those things is really, once you reprogram it, you just embody it, you just it just becomes effortless and it's a, it's a process over your whole lifetime is what I believe, because each, each month, each year, I'm shifting so much and the world around me shifts so fast. And it's so much fun when you do it this way, because then you know that you can create anything, as long as you're aware that the triggers are there to show you that there's something ready to be shifted. Anytime there's a trigger, it's an opportunity to remove a belief or install a new one, or work on an old trauma or practice your reaction Instead of reacting. Respond so that you can hold more, because your goal of getting to where you want to get to in life.

Speaker 1: 16:58

I don't believe it's about the goal. I think it's about what your soul wants to do to become the person it needs to to achieve that goal. And so those triggers are like oh, there's something you can clean up here, there's something you can clean up here so that you get to this place, you don't sweat the small stuff, you don't beat yourself up, you're not caught up in judgment and other people's opinions, and you're living your truth and you're bringing that truth to the world and you're rippling that out. And you're and you're bringing that truth to the world and you're rippling that out. And that, to me, is like the true magic.

Speaker 2: 17:28

Okay, so good, so many things. And I know that if you guys listen to this podcast a lot, you probably have heard me say some of these things, and I just wanted to highlight that specific. You know it's so good, all of that was just so good, but but essentially you're so right, it's it's the, it's the embodying that really makes the difference Right, and those triggers. That's what I really wanted to kind of highlight, the triggers, because so many people feel like, oh well, this is coming up, so it must not be for me or it must mean this and it's like whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on.

Speaker 2: 18:09

That's a choice. You can definitely look at it like that, but if you're noticing it, if you're actually noticing it first of all, you've come some distance already, because a lot of people don't even notice it. So if you're noticing it, then you have a choice to go okay, well, I can choose to like continue to act or react the same way that I have, or I can see this as an opportunity to level up, to become this different version, or whatever. And the whole point is so accurate that it isn't about yes, I'm all about goals, but it's not about that destination.

Speaker 2: 18:49

It is about who you're becoming along the way. That's the deal. I believe that's why we come here, right, like, why else would we come here? Why else would we put ourselves into this 3D craziness? Because it is a way for our soul to experience so many things and growth and it is such a mirror like those people.

Speaker 2: 19:13

So a lot of my clients will say, well, why do I keep attracting? Like, why am I still getting these clients who are, you know, not my ideal client? Okay, well, there's an opportunity there for you to look at. What are we resonating out? Like, what are you putting out? You might think that up here, you're telling all you know.

Speaker 2: 19:32

That's why affirmations alone don't necessarily work, because if you're just thinking them, okay, you can think a lot of things, but what are you feeling? How do you actually feel in your body? Do you really feel excited about this? Like, is it fun to you? Is it, you know? Are you excited about these clients? Have you actually been able to get clarity on them? All of those things I think matter as well, and so I just want to like kind of go into some of what you were talking about before, using the modalities that you use and the practices you've created as well, like what are some techniques and exercises that you recommend to someone, that you do use with your clients as well, to enhance this energetic presence and magnetic energy ability well, um.

Speaker 1: 20:24

So the reprogramming process we actually do in the program, that one is quite um, that one I have to actually teach you and we go through the process. So we wouldn't be able to do it today. But one of the things that um help can help you to get started on the journey of self discovery is the soul evolution process. So I use the soul evolution process every day. In the beginning I did the actual whole process. Now I can just drop down in and just ask my soul and it's just a really fast process. So if anybody wants that, they can DM me and I'll send that to them and it's a good way to start. Okay, cool, use it for what you need for the next five years. You can use it for what you need for the next four years, or you can use it for that day. So I oftentimes use it for that day. So before I used to have a schedule and I used to say, okay, wake up at this time, do these things, and have to stick to this rigid, because that's what they told you, right, but it never worked for me and so I would do it and then I'd get off of it and then I'd beat myself up that I couldn't do it and all the stuff would go through it, until I realized you know what, like? There is no structure to this. My soul, like you said, is just here to experience. First I have to realize that there's nothing wrong with me, that I'm not broken, that my life's not broken, that I actually am living the life that I manifested, that the younger version of me dreamed of. So once I realize that, then I get to say, okay, well, now I get to create from evolution, not from need, because there's a way for motivation and there's toward motivation. A way for motivation is when you are not good enough and you're proving, pleasing, achieving, and you don't feel good enough, you're working for validation, you're working out of fear that you're out of survival. Right Toward motivation is like I'm amazing and I get to keep creating more because it's an evolution over my entire lifetime. So I get to do this experience because I get to, not because I have to, not because there's anything wrong, but because I get to. So once you can realize that shift, you reprogram obviously the stuff that, the fears, the traumas, all of those things. But then when you are so content with your life, you need that toward motivation. So this soul evolution process will help you to get in touch with that big why, and that why is going to keep changing as you start manifesting, getting closer and closer and closer to it. You have to keep changing that why to something bigger. But the way to do that is not out of.

Speaker 1: 22:49

Okay, like I don't really use dates anymore Because I would find that when you put that date there, it's results driven, there's a pressure, there's a whatever these things are. But when you realize in its experience, it's your own timeline and so I don't want to. Just, in my past career it was all results and I was burnt out, I was stressed out, I had anxiety, you know all of these things, and then I flipped it all around and that's why I'm creating this and helping people, because when you're not results driven, when you're in creation mode, you get to enjoy the process of it. You get to be like, okay, well, what do I desire to? What is it going to bring most value to my entire life, not just my business, because everything is interconnected. So what's going to bring the most value to my entire life today?

Speaker 1: 23:36

And then taking aligned action for what comes up in the soul evolution process. So I do that every single day, I do that at night before the next day to kind of plan out my day, but then I tune in that morning again and see if it shifted, because it might've shifted into something else. So the whole thing about being versatile and flexible and resilient to me is so much more powerful than the strategy and the waking up every day and doing the structure and all of those things. So once you can discover that and then I said like doing the inner power to trust yourself, to realize that everything's an experience so your, your inner truth may tell you to do something and it may not work out the way that you want it to work out, and then you perceive it as a mistake and you don't trust yourself, when actually it that was the breadcrumb that you needed to go through to learn how not to do it or to embody it, to transmute it, to then get to the next breadcrumb.

Speaker 1: 24:31

So when you realize that there's no good, bad, right, wrong, failure, mistake, and it's just an experience, then you can lean into what your soul is telling you to do without being afraid that, oh no, this is going to be the wrong decision, because actually it's the breadcrumb that's leading you to go through it, to grow through it, to then get to the next breadcrumb. And so when you can release and surrender into that you don't drain your energy, you're not burnt out, you're not stressed out, you can keep that magnetism up. So you can still be magnetized, even if you're on low energy, if you're in alignment. Alignment just because you have low energy doesn't mean that you're not magnetized, you're just. You're noticing okay, now this is a day that I go inwards, but but on those days that I go inwards, I still, if I rest, I'll receive magic emails in my inbox for trusting myself, for listening to my soul, for going inwards and and taking care of me.

Speaker 1: 25:24

It doesn't stop so. So when you do it, when you live your most aligned truth with what is alignment for you, the stuff, everything just still keeps flowing to you. It doesn't have to stop, whereas before, if you were pushing and forcing, it's all you. You're not using your energy, you're not using synchronicity, you're not using potentiality or the laws of the universe. You're like pushing a boulder up the hill. So if you stop, that boulder stops or it falls back on you, right?

Speaker 2: 25:51

so it's.

Speaker 1: 25:52

It's like you can't you can't fake energetics, and so the more that you tune in and know your inner authority. So I do use human design and gene keys as well too. I love human design to know what your type is. So I know I, I'm a generator, I'm a one three, so I know what my system works. Once I know what that is, then I dive deeper into gene keys and I find out. You know the deeper layers, which everyone can do. You can just download it. You can go to get your free gene keys and human design online and then you order the gene keys book and you just read your gene keys and every time you read it you get a deeper message, a deeper contemplation. You get to know yourself even more.

Speaker 1: 26:32

I realized my prosperity codes was the shadow of exhaustion and the gift of resolve and deep relaxation, and I was doing everything the opposite way, pushing and pushing and wondering why it was stuck. So you know like, once you discover yourself, you get to lean into it and you get to live your best life and then be rewarded for it. You know like through magic and synchronicity, and that's one of the tools. The other tool is to really take on if you choose to. This is my belief, belief code, my belief code that I chose to take on. That changed my life completely. Was that? What if our souls came down here? So what, like okay, what's the last movie that you watched that you enjoyed?

Speaker 2: 27:20

oh so many. We watched so many movies but like, okay, just the most recent would be the fall.

Speaker 1: 27:24

yeah, yeah, whatever first pops to your head.

Speaker 2: 27:27

The most recent is the fall guy.

Speaker 1: 27:29

So why did you like that movie?

Speaker 2: 27:31

Because it was fun. You know it was. I like movies that make me feel good, you know.

Speaker 1: 27:37

Yeah. And was it perfect the whole movie? Or was there like ups and downs and all of that right, yeah? So think about why your soul wanted to watch that movie and how it enjoyed it and for what reasons. And going through the lows in order to get through the highs, to have a hero journey whatever those things are right. What if our souls just came down to earth? And this is a really big movie? Or maybe this is like movie after movie after movie, like we go through one movie and then another movie and another movie, or it's all one movie.

Speaker 1: 28:07

There's no point other than to experience it and to enjoy it and to have fun with it and to like live it. So to me now, there is no point to like. There isn't like. The results are like. The goals are there to inspire me to do the stuff that I need to do, that I that to do the growth work, to do the inner work, to become the person. Um, that life just gets easier and lighter and more fun and more magic, but not because I need to achieve that anymore. It's to experience it.

Speaker 1: 28:38

And when you, when you, when you surrender into the experience, you're not afraid so much of the mistakes. You're not afraid of whether this idea is going to work or not because you know you're not afraid so much of the mistakes. You're not afraid of whether this idea is going to work or not because you know you're going to try it and then you're going to figure out if it is and if it's not, you're going to harvest the learnings, you're going to transmute it and you're going to keep going and you're going to pivot and you're going to do that. And I just tell my clients all the time it's just following those breadcrumbs. You have no idea where those breadcrumbs are going to come.

Speaker 1: 29:05

And the amazing thing is, when you follow those breadcrumbs, magic happens. When you're in alignment and you're following the breadcrumbs of what your soul really is desiring for you, whether it's resting, working, hanging out with this person doing this podcast, whatever these things are, it brings you these quantum leaps. It brings you these magic emails out of the blue, these opportunities out of the blue, like this amazing opportunity to be on your podcast. You know, like these opportunities, that quantum leap you into a whole new reality that you can't plan for, like all the amazing things that happened in this last year for me, I never would have imagined they would have happened. I put it out into the ethers and then all of a sudden I bump into someone who then this happens and then this happens and I'm like, oh my gosh, like everything is so divinely orchestrated. But it never would have happened if I wasn't taking a line to action following the breadcrumbs.

Speaker 1: 29:58

And so if you just do that every single day, trust yourself, trust that sometimes it's not always going to lead, like when I say do things the easy way, it doesn't mean that everything's perfect. It means that you're the master alchemist and nothing is going to stop you. You know where you're going and you know that you can transmute it and you're going to get there no matter what. And so when the issues come up, it's easy because you don't make it into a big thing, you don't beat yourself up and you don't do what you like. What you said say oh no, it's not for me. You realize, actually it is for me. I believe in quantum physics. Past, present, future is in the now. So if you have a dream, I believe that that's a future echo from the future showing you what's coming if you follow these breadcrumbs and it's showing you that.

Speaker 1: 30:43

So it's. It's inevitable if you follow the breadcrumbs, as long as you don't stop. But you need resilience, you need to inner power and you need to not focus so much on the outside world and go inwards on this journey and then ripple out that way. But it becomes so much more fun that way. It does.

Speaker 2: 31:02

Yes, all of that. So much there. I also am a big, big fan of human design. I discovered that probably about three years ago or so. I'm also a generator two, four and yeah, it has been one of the best self-awareness tools that I could possibly ever have discovered and also recommend. And I use it in my coaching and when I do my one-on-ones, I pull my coaching students charts.

Speaker 2: 31:32

I'm by no means an expert I don't, you know, really want to be an expert in that but I know enough about it so that I can help that person in a way that's going to be impactful for them, which I think is really important, because we all learn very differently. You know, we all are so unique and some of us are visual learners, some are auditory, some are. There's all of these different things and our human design just adds such another beautiful layer to that Lots of layers actually and you know, you can get very specific and go down that rabbit hole and it's beautiful and amazing. But for me, I mean obviously I use it in my own, for my own personal growth, for knowing my family, my kids, better and helping them as well. You know, I have two projectors and I really, really wish I always say this, but I really wish I would have known, you know, that as they were growing up. I mean, obviously timing is perfect, but I'm glad I know now and I'm able to, like, help them sort of navigate that even though they may not necessarily want to dive into all of that, they get what I'm trying to say when it comes to you need to rest. That's not necessarily. They live in a very generator world. I'm a generator, my husband's a manifesting generator. We're very all over the place and go, go, go and we have a lot of energy. We make our own energy and it can be a lot for projector kids to be. You know children of that.

Speaker 2: 33:07

So I definitely have used it so much in the last few years since learning about it, and I highly recommend you guys if you haven't yet which if you listen to this podcast you probably have, because I kind of harp on it but if you haven't, you know, definitely explore that part of you because it's so fun to learn about it. And I also believe that if you have an idea, if you have even an inkling of like, oh yeah, that would be cool, that's because a future you, another version of you has already done it and is living that already in a different timeline, so you can absolutely quantum jump there with with this alignment and this energetic that we were talking about. Um, it's so funny. Just a side note Um, I, I really have always, even before I started learning about all of this, even in my early twenties I was, I was very drawn to it, always Right, and, and I remember the night I met my husband.

Speaker 2: 34:07

This is like a really fun example and I'd love to know if you have an example too. I know you mentioned just in the last year how all these things have happened for you, because you opened up to that and trusted and have done all this work too. It's a representation of all the work you've done. You know, all this alignment. Well, it's kind of like that.

Speaker 2: 34:31

The night I met my husband because we were out in a bar, just my friend and I, and you know there was an immediate sort of like. I saw him like across the room and I just knew that there was an energetic like something that happened Right. And I turned to my friend and I was like and yeah, that guy, right there, we're going to, yeah, we're going to definitely be dating, like I was. I don't know how I worded it, but I was like, yes, I'm into that guy. And she was like oh, are you going to go talk to him? I'm like, no, absolutely not. I was like I'm going to call him over here. And she was just like, what are you talking about? I'm like, just just wait, it's good. I just knew that he had he felt it too. It's, it was just a knowing. You know what I mean. Like, and within 30 minutes he was standing right next to us and talking and then we went on our next date, the next day.

Speaker 2: 35:25

Like, it was very like I could feel it, and so I love when, like you, get real time sort of examples of that stuff happening in your life, and they show up because you know we're going to find proof of whatever we believe, right, yes, yeah, and so I want to talk a little bit about that synchronicity that you mentioned a little bit. So how does synchronicity contribute to that manifesting of our desires and how does it show up and how do you work with it?

Speaker 1: 35:57

Well, I mean, I just love the story, what you said about your husband and that inner knowing, because really it's that inner knowing that opens up the synchronicity. But a lot of times we can't hear it because the conditioned mind overrides that inner knowing, which is why the soul evolution process and why the discovery, self-discovery of your inner authority, why do your discovery of your gene keys is so important? Because it's all there. It's all there for you to read and to discover and then reprogram so that it gets louder, so that you're into your soul's evolution, your inner authority, your knowing, your inner knowing, that hit that you got when you saw him, that he was coming, is louder than the conditioned mind with the doubts and the fears and the oh no, no one does this this way. But really, if we evolve, we have to do it different than anybody else has done it before, because that's evolution. So think about the Wright brothers and all the people that probably seemed crazy during their time but innovated and did something completely crazy which changed the world. And I believe we're all born to bring something to this world. But the way that we're going to do it is not the normal way and the only way we can do that is to trust that inner knowing, that gut hit that you got when you knew your husband was there, because that's when the hits that I mean. I think back on all the things in my life, like the last career, when I knew like I had this hit and I went in and I said it and then within a couple months it already like took it to the next level, right. But the doubt gets in, like who am I to think that I could do that, you know, and all of these things. So that's really where the inner work comes into forefront. It's all there waiting for us. If you dream it, it's already there. It's just your conditioned mind that gets over the way. So when you can, I always go back to when you can know yourself and when you can do so.

Speaker 1: 37:48

Going back to my prosperity codes of deep relaxation, a lot of the amazing things that came into my life was when my soul told me to rest, and I didn't want to because my mind was like, no, don't rest. If you rest, you're lazy, don't watch TV. But I was listening to my inner authority and I'm like no, right now it's just saying to do this. So I'm going to go with it and I'd be on the couch resting and then I'd check my email and an email with an opportunity, an amazing opportunity came through and I was like, oh my gosh, this is incredible.

Speaker 1: 38:17

And then another time I got a gift card from a client and I was going to use it to take my family out to dinner. But something in my gut was like no, you need to recharge your battery first before you can ripple out, so use it to go to the spa instead. And I was in the spa and I was doing my reprogramming to be the lucky one where things were easy and they flow and I win, because I normally never win things right. I get home and a friend messages me and said, hey, you just won a brand immersion package. And I didn't even know there was a draw. And I was like are you sure? I don't think so, you know. And she's like yeah, there's only one, jotham in Hawaii. And I was like, oh my gosh, this is insane.

Speaker 1: 38:58

So when you listen to your inner authority, you open up synchronicity. It's kind of like, like if you're doing what you were born to do and if you're, if you're, if your magnetism is where, especially for generators, when your magnetism is open, it brings you opportunities to respond to, same with projectors right To wait for the invitation, but in order to get more things to respond or invitations, you get your energy as vibrant as possible. If that means resting, that means resting because I was resting and the opportunities came in. If I had pushed myself through it, I know those opportunities wouldn't have come in because they didn't. You know what I mean. So that inner knowing, you have to just cultivate that inner knowing so much to trust yourself, to know that it might look crazy to people but actually your soul is showing you a different way to do it, a different way because you different way to do it, a different way, because you're meant to do it a different way and bring that to the world. And if you follow that, synchronicity just opens up. It's like the universe has your back.

Speaker 1: 40:02

When you're in alignment, I always like to imagine like life, like a truman show, but not like they're trying to control us, but the universe is in our favor. So it's like, okay, we're doing this and we're we're listening to the hits and we're like, okay, we're gonna do this, and you're just like, oh, they're, they're listening, they're following their breadcrumbs, let's put in this actor, let's put in this opportunity, you know. And then you follow the next breadcrumb and they do it like that. But the only way that happens is you being in alignment right, and so, the more that you just live your truth, magic happens. Like my relationships have completely changed, my life has changed everything.

Speaker 1: 40:38

Everything comes from me now, and so when I start looking outwards or like, oh, I need to fix that or this person, or you know, like whatever, or judging, I'm like no, no, they're exactly where they're meant to be on their journey. I look at everybody's souls as equal power, but different, including my sons, including knowing that I don't have to worry about him because his soul chose this journey, his soul chose this movie, and so it has all the resources in it. So, whatever comes, he knows it's coming, and that brings me so much peace. So I get to believe in his highest faith and I get to hold space for him in a different way versus oh no, you know all of these things, same with my clients, same with my family. I see their highest truth, and you can even do this for them as well too, like you can close your eyes and you can see them in their highest truth.

Speaker 2: 41:27

I do that all the time for them.

Speaker 1: 41:29

Yes, and it's so powerful.

Speaker 2: 41:32

I love that you brought that up because I know a lot of moms listen to this. A lot of my coaching clients and a lot of my audience are women and I hear that a lot. This is a really big. This is really awesome that this came through, because I feel like this was really necessary for people to hear.

Speaker 2: 41:48

I totally understand that feeling of like I have an, I have adult kids, right, and so, like the older they get, the harder it is in a lot of ways, and you don't, you're not necessarily prepared for that because you're like, oh, it'll just get easier. No, there's other things that you're going to be worried about, right, especially when they're off, living away at college or whatever, and that is one of the most powerful things that I do and have done, especially with my son. I have three kids, but one of my kids I tend to worry about a little bit more right, like so you know, everybody kind of I think people listening can understand but he's dealt with a lot more things and he's a lot more sensitive and and um, worrying about him is like praying for something to happen essentially Right, and I have a, I have a very happen essentially right and I have a very deep anxiety base, right Like it goes way back, and that has been an undoing of that for many, many years and I'm continuing on that. But the thing that has helped me so much is doing that for him. Whenever I have that trigger of you know, that little anxiety ping of whatever, I just go right into that, take about five minutes and just see him living like the most beautiful life ever and I let myself just go there with it, like living in his highest potential, doing all the things that he loves, and it just brings me so much peace. But I also know that energy is getting to him, it is reaching him, and I also am certified in Reiki, so I'm putting all the energy around him, I'm envisioning all the energy around him, and it's funny because I've never told him this until just recently, and the only reason I told him this is because he came to me with an issue that he was dealing with.

Speaker 2: 43:34

He had a friend of his who was really dealing with some heavy stuff and very, very, really hard for him. He's so sensitive and such an empath and so that bleeds into codependency very easily, you know, and so it's a close friend of his and he really wanted to help this person, but he knows that he couldn't, and so this person was also sort of using him as that band-aid and it was kind of codependent relationship. And so he found himself really, really stressed about this person's mental health so much that it was impacting his life. So I shared with him what I do for him so that he could see I was like you know, something powerful that you can do that is helpful is this? And I told him and he was like you do that for me?

Speaker 2: 44:21

And I was like, yeah, all the time and it just touched him and it was like almost like made me cry thinking about it, but like he got it. He got it at a very deep level and he was like, okay, I'm going to do that, I'm going to do that for them and it really helped him. So if you guys are hearing this, maybe you really needed to hear that piece because it's a powerful thing. I'm so glad you brought that up. That's awesome.

Speaker 1: 44:43

It's so powerful.

Speaker 1: 44:44

And then what here's the other piece to it as well, too is like when you can see them in their highest truth, and when you can see that their journey might not look like how you think it should look, but that it's exactly perfect as it's meant to be on their journey exactly what it's meant to be. It gives us permission to know that we're exactly where we need to be as well too. So when we don't judge other people and we're like, oh, but actually this is the part of their story, this is their part of their movie. Maybe they're in this part, but that's the part that's going to bring them to this part, so it's exactly where it needs to be Then we get to look at our life and be like, oh, yeah, well, maybe we're in this part right now too, and there's nothing wrong with it. Then we don't need to prove to anybody that we're going to get here. As long as we know it on the inside, we know we're going to get there, and then we step into that future memory. Just like you do for him, we do it for ourselves. I'm sure you already do that as well, too, and you play with the potentiality of like these dreams that can come to fruition and you just like step into future memories of your dream life and you don't don't figure out the how, because if you try and figure out how you kill the magic, right, it's like you just put it out there and you're just like you know and you see it, and then you just follow the breadcrumbs. It's kind of like, I imagine, when we do that, when we step into the future memories, to me it's like we put something in google maps and we're like this is the destination that we're going, and then we leave it there. We know that Google Maps is going to take us there.

Speaker 1: 46:17

So every day I use Soul Evolution to tune in and be like okay, so do I turn left here? Do I turn right here? You know what I mean, knowing that each time my soul tells me, turn left, go straight, go right. I listen to it. It's going to take me there. And if I listen to it, it'll also say, hey, if you do reprogramming, it'll be like hey, there's a traffic jam over here, take this route, which looks different than everybody else. Get off the road, even though it looks crazy, and you're going to get there a lot faster as well, too, right, so as long. And then you just trust that every day it's bringing you there because you put it in, so you don't have to think about it, you don't.

Speaker 1: 47:02

And then you just get to enjoy every moment of being making every moment magical, like when you can make your everyday life magical, when you can have gratitude for everything in your life that you'd miss if I took it away right now and you were just like this is amazing, you'd miss if I took it away right now, and you were just like this is amazing, like you know, the fact that I'm here talking to you. I'm just so grateful for the clients that I have for my family. What can I do today that's going to make this fun and magical, so that my standards in life are so high that if something doesn't go my way, it doesn't matter, because everything else is so amazing, right. And then when you live like that, then it just keeps getting higher and higher and higher, instead of waiting in the old paradigm, waiting to achieve this thing to then feel good. But once you achieve it, you normalize it and it doesn't feel good anymore and then you want the next thing. So you always feel lack versus like wow, this life is amazing. And that's why I love sometimes to just take my son out of school, you know, to do like.

Speaker 1: 47:58

I live in Hawaii, so go and do something touristy, do something that's like just makes me feel alive and magical, so that life every single day is magical. So, like for work, I, when I pick up my son from school and when I come home, I most of the time. There's times where I do have to do a couple of emails here and there, but I'll put my phone on the fireplace because I know that I want to be present with him and I want to like look at him like I had miscarriages before him and after him, and so just him being here is a gift, but we take that for granted when they're having tantrums or doing all these things. So I'll just sit there and play with him and just be like, oh my gosh, like I'm just so grateful that you're here, because I know in a couple years you're not going to want to hang out with me anymore.

Speaker 1: 48:54

Exciting versus oh no, now I have to fight with you to eat dinner and do this and all of those things, but then if I have that energy around that it's going to affect my business, because then I'm miserable, right? So how do we make every moment as magical as possible, not because we want to get the results, but because we want to live the most amazing life, and then, magically, that stuff just shows up as a by-product of it. So it's like it's it's a lot of fun, it is.

Speaker 2: 49:20

I love, I love this whole conversation and I could, I can for sure talk hours about it with you. But I really want to, before we wrap up, let people know I know we kind of touched on a little bit of it and they are welcome to DM you for what you know, that resource. That's going to be super helpful for them. But talk a little bit before you wrap up about what you do specifically and how you, you know, do this reprogramming a little bit there and also how people can get in touch with you if they're interested in that as well.

Speaker 1: 49:56

Thank you so much. Well, my passion really is to so in the last, my last career, when I was at the top of my career. On the outside it looks amazing, right, but on the inside I was stressed, burnt out. I didn't enjoy it the way that I could have enjoyed it If I had the skills and tools that I have right now. I also know that I could have enjoyed it if I had the skills and tools that I have right now. I also know that I could have taken it so much farther, because my limiting beliefs had me hit a plateau. And so my passion is to help people to do that, to help them to like really where they're at right now in their life, amplify it, magnetize it, help them to enjoy it, help them to find that fulfillment while they're building, and then, as they do that, next level results come in. So that's my passion, my main passion also to help people that are transitioning from different parts of their life, because I also went through a transition as well, too different parts of their life, because I also went through a transition as well too. So I know what it's like to have this and then do like a 180 and do something else right, and then transition and make that work as well too, but do it from this most balanced way. Not before it was like work was everything, and then there was relationships and there was me time and all of that stuff. I fit into the work. Now it's like there's everything is equally. Now I'm not just building riches, I'm building wealth. I'm building my relationships, my self-care, my magic, my enjoyment, my business and giving back to the world. But they're all equally important. And when all of them are equally important, it just magnetizes everything else as well on top of that. So I do a lot of group work as well as masterminds, and then I also take a couple of one-on-ones, but only a couple per month, because when we do one-on-ones we just dive deep.

Speaker 1: 51:45

And the way I look at reprogramming is you can keep reframing it. You can keep doing affirmations every day, or you can go to the root, like imagine like you have a yard and there's a lot more and you're just mowing the weeds every single day. Or you can find the root of where it is, dig it up, reprogram it, shift it out so that that weed doesn't keep growing back, so you don't have to keep cutting it down and actually this new weed has turned into a flower and now that flower is going to blossom and bring you another beautiful, you know chapter of your life. So that's kind of like the basis behind it, because we shouldn't have to feel like we're fixing ourselves every day. You know what I mean. We're fixing our life, and the more that you reprogram, it's like you got this big bag of rocks on your back of beliefs and trauma and memories and patterns, and so each time we do it, we take a rock out and a rock out. So you just keep getting lighter and lighter and lighter as you go and you're enjoying the process of it instead of like beating yourself up.

Speaker 1: 52:49

One of the things you could always do is, when something happens, just tell yourself that this is happening for me, not to me. When I was being rushed to the emergency room from my last miscarriage, in my mind I just kept saying this is happening for me, not to me. This is happening for me, not to me. To be able to transmute it, so that you don't get caught up in all the fears and the drama and all the things and cause all this unnecessary fallout that you then have to clean up If you trust that it's for you.

Speaker 1: 53:18

And, like I said, each trigger, each opportunity, each anything that happens, abandonment, rejection, those are all gifts to us to show us what's not in alignment and when we can look at life through those eyes, so much of the pain and suffering goes away. Right, pain is inevitable, pain will always happen, but we make suffering, we hold the suffering here with the thoughts, and some of us we have patterns of being addicted to the drama. Right, because of what we get from it. Like you know, like empathic behavior and caregiving a lot of times is a trauma bond. Right, because we want to be of value, we want to, you know, like we don't feel that we're enough that we have to overgive, to have a place in this world or to fix things or to feel good that we did something for other people. But it's so much more powerful when we do it for ourselves. Because when you think about people that you want to be around, you think about like who's a powerful person that you admire, who would?

Speaker 2: 54:23

you say, I mean so many come to mind, but like I don't know why, but Dr Joe Dispenza just popped into my mind.

Speaker 1: 54:32

Yes, yes, and so by him being in his power. Why were we inspired by him? Because he self-healed himself and then he shared that with the world. It always comes from doing it yourself, embodying it and then rippling that out into the world to make a difference. He owns his power, he knows what he does works and so he owns his power. He steps in his power and then he ripples out. And then you think about him, you just want to be by him. You're inspired by him by what he's created, by what he's done. That's so much healthier than if he just came in and just tried to fix you all the time. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 55:07

And he doesn't do it for that. That's the other point. He doesn't do it to be the guru. He's not doing it for his ego. He's doing that because he is embodying his own truth and highest expression, and that's the magnet, the magnetist. You know the magnetic stuff that we're all attracted to, like we were talking about right, because so many people think right, right, there's a big difference there and that's why there's that. Oh, if he can, I can as well. Yes, because he went through the trauma.

Speaker 1: 55:40

He went through the trauma, he harvested the learnings, he transmuted it, he self-healed. He did all these things. He realized that this is the gift that he's meant to bring to this world. It's like the four-minute mile right. When someone breaks that four-minute mile, they break it for everybody around them. So he did that. He's created this morphic field. So now, when you come into it, he's already broken that limitation. So now that limitation is broken for you, because that's the gift that he's meant to bring to this world. Not to prove or please, but to go through and bring this gift to the world and share it with the world.

Speaker 1: 56:17

And like that, if we go through life that way, it's like you can enjoy the process. There's no stress, there's no fear. Anytime you feel like you're efforting or you're trying, or you're hoping that it's going to work, or you you're afraid it's not, you stop and you reprogram or whatever modality you use to get yourself back in your power, to get into your inner, knowing to know that this is all part of the journey and there's nothing wrong, then you can just keep going along the journey right, and then you don't get exhausted. So for me, anytime I'm like I feel that effort, I'm like, oh, stop, it's not meant to feel like effort, but we have to catch ourselves. Sometimes we get caught up in it and then we catch ourselves, but then you know you can't beat yourself up for that as well, because the universe gave you an opportunity to practice and so you got that opportunity to practice and you, either you know, master it or they give you another opportunity, but you don't master things on the first try. It's like over your whole entire lifetime. And so just be grateful that you had, like you said, the awareness.

Speaker 1: 57:16

The awareness is the first step. Then you catch it and you're like, oh, I'm efforting. Okay, why am I efforting? Who am I trying to prove? What am I trying to? You know what? Am I afraid of? All these things? Okay, no, it's gonna happen. It's inevitable. As long as I never give up, as long as I never stop, it's inevitable. And then you just keep going and just like I like to try and like, bring myself into my body to live life as a japanese tea ceremony, with reverence, with gratitude, with like just being in the moment as much as possible. Obviously I haven't mastered it, but I am in the process of mastering it because I'm aware of my energy and I'm like, oh, pull it back in. Just pull it back in, because otherwise you're just bleeding your energy everywhere. And then you wonder why we're exhausted and chasing our tails and all of those things.

Speaker 2: 58:02

Yeah, that's such a good point. Oh, that's a great note to end on as well. So I will put all of the links that we know, all of your links and things in the show notes so people can connect with you and find you and be in your magic because you are magic. So thank you so much for being here. This has been just delightful.

Speaker 1: 58:24

Thank you so much. I love speaking with you, I love your podcast and I love everything all the stuff that you share on Instagram and social media to help the world and ripple out into the world. So thank you so much.

Speaker 2: 58:36

I know you're going to have a lot of good takeaways from this episode. So, as always, please screenshot, share on Instagram and tag me and Jocelyn. All of her information is down below in the show notes and everything that we spoke about so that you can get in touch with her and follow her. But go ahead and tag us if you share on social as well. I always love to see that and I always want to hear your feedback and definitely want to repost as well. But, yeah, I loved everything that we spoke about and I hope that it inspires you in many ways and puts you in a really good space, because that's kind of what matters when we feel good, we can access our highest self.

Speaker 2: 59:22

We can really step into that alignment that we were speaking about on the podcast, and it's a reflection Everything is a reflection of how we're kind of feeling.

Speaker 2: 59:34

So it's not about spiritually bypassing it and sweeping things under the rug.

Speaker 2: 59:39

It's seeing it, understanding that life is going to life, and it's up to us to be able to regulate and be able to have that perspective, if we choose to, so that we can bring that energy to everything else that we do, including our businesses, attraction of the right clients when we are in that space as much as we possibly can be.

Speaker 2: 1:00:15

I know it's impossible to be there all the time, but having it top of mind and having it in your awareness is really important. These are all things that I speak about a lot, by the way, inside of Elevate my membership and, as you know, I have two levels. One of those levels is by application only it's my VIP level and that is open right now until June 30th. We are accepting new applications for the next six months. So that is a six month commitment, from July through December, and it is a photography membership and we talk a lot about business and marketing and getting clients and staying booked and making money, but we also talk about all of these type of issues as well. We talk about deeper meanings of why we're not feeling it right. This group is really special and there's a lot of vulnerability in there.

Speaker 2: 1:01:10

So, again, that's why it's by application only, because the integrity of the group is really important to me and it is female photographers only because I want to keep that feminine energy vibing. So if that speaks to you, go ahead and hit the link below. You can find out more about both levels, because my foundation level is super accessible. It's great for beginning photographers or people who just need a little taste of mindset, who need some coaching. You get one group coaching call a month with me and then a Facebook group, so you definitely get support. But the VIP level, you do get a little bit more support. You get two calls a month and we have a Voxer thread that is really active and really amazing. So if you are drawn to that, go ahead, hit the link and hit the application and let me know if you have any questions, hit me up on Instagram. I'd love to chat with you about it. A lot of people feel like they want to hop on a call first. So that's totally fine. In fact, that's totally fine. In fact, that probably is the next step After you fill out an application. I will get in touch and see if we can just have a little chat. I want to make sure that it's right for you and that it feels good for all of us, basically. So, yeah, if you are interested, let me know.

Speaker 2: 1:02:26

Also, I am closing my one-on-one books for now. I may reopen them again in another month or so, but for now I'm not going to be taking on any more one-on-one clients at the moment. So if you know that you want to look into that, let me know so I can put you on a wait list because probably going into fall, I won't be taking on as many one-on-one clients. I'm going to be really leaning heavily into elevate, both levels, because I've got some really cool things that we're going to be doing in both of those groups. One of them is going to be a 90-day challenge class, all about money, mindset and all about the things that we were speaking about on this podcast, leaning really heavy into the energetics of calling that in.

Speaker 2: 1:03:15

We do a lot of marketing and a lot of strategy in there already, so I want to add some more woo to that. And, yeah, I'm going to be creating and revamping some other things as well. So I'm not sure how many one-on-ones I'm going to take on for the rest of this year, but stay tuned and if that is something you were drawn to, let me know, I'll put you on the wait list and if not, hop and elevate, because you get some good stuff in either level and we'd love to have you. So have a really awesome week and let me know what you thought about this episode and I'll talk to you guys next time.