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FeedSheep Podcast
Thriving is...
Dan Schilling & Michael Blue dig into John 14 to explore what true thriving is and how Jesus defined and lived it.
00:00:07 Dan Schilling
Hey, welcome to the Feed Sheep Podcast where we help you hear God's voice, follow his lead, and thrive as a disciple.
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I'm Dan Schilling.
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And I'll be one of your guides now let's.
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Get into today's topic.
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All right.
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Welcome to the feed.
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Chief podcast again today.
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Hey Michael, glad to have you with us.
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Hi, Dan.
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Good to see you again.
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Good to see you.
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Let's get right into it.
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I want to open us in prayer and we're going to get right into our topic today about thriving.
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So let me pray for us.
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So, Father, we're grateful today for another opportunity to be in your.
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Just since your burden that you.
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You desire for your sheep to to know you, to hear your voice, and to walk in your ways.
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And so today I pray that we would decrease and you would increase.
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I pray that your word.
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Goes forth today in US and through us for your glory, for the good of each of us that are partaking today of that bread of life that you want to give to us.
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So I thank you for this opportunity to be the hands and feet.
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The vessels today that you flow through, so God have your way in US.
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Let the words of our mouth.
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And the meditations of our heart today be pleasing.
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To you that you're.
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We're now go forth and bear much fruit.
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We love you and we thank you.
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In Jesus name.
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All right, Michael.
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So last week the well, the last two weeks we've been talking about the here follow thrive that that's not just the the tag line of of feed sheep, but really is the mantra.
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And one of the things I want to look at today as we focus on the thriving part now is I.
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Believe there's there is.
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A process here that.
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We here we follow, we thrive.
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But I want to work backwards.
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For just a moment.
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That I I don't believe that we that we really will thrive without.
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And we can't follow without hearing.
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And I think there's a couple of things that are actually keeping.
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Us that are inhibiting, maybe obstacles that are keeping us from hearing God's voice clearly, and I think those three things, as we've mentioned, the past, our PRIDE, money, money issues and infidelity.
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And when it comes to infidel, in this case, the word actually means unfaithfulness, but I think there's more than specifically the unfaithfulness in this area really has to do with our our sexual purity.
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Are we focused on on the things that God has us focus on, whether we're single or married.
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And so one of the things I want to talk about today is the things that are keeping us from thriving.
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But give me some thoughts as we head into today.
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As you think about thriving as well.
00:02:57 Michael Blue
So I mean, as I think about the word thrive, I, you and I have a lot of conversation about words and words that we hear thrown around in Christian circles and churches that are, that are good words and and they do have positive.
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Meaning and implications.
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But oftentimes we use them kind of haphazardly and and.
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Loosely so that they really.
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Lose the precision of the meaning and almost begin to to mean something very, very different, I think.
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Of words like thrive.
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I think of words like impact.
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I think of words like blessing, like these are all words that we hear a lot in Christian circles and they mean can mean very good things.
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Very precise things, but they can.
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Also kind of be.
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Used for a lot of different things and so.
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You know, with the legal background, you know, I like to define terms and.
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And so for me, I think as we think about thriving, the tendency is probably to think of thriving as temporal thriving.
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So am I healthy?
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Am I wealthy?
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Am I wise, right?
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Those types of things are those thriving?
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And and I think the thriving that we're called into biblically is much deeper than that such that we can thrive regardless of our circumstances.
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It's like contentment.
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I can be content regardless of my circumstances, so my contentment, my thriving, isn't dependent upon what I'm doing my it.
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It's actually dependent upon somebody which is.
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God, which is Christ and so thriving, really is a spiritual.
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Yes, yes.
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Posture or spiritual place that we move into as opposed to, hey, you do all these things and everything is going to be right, everything is.
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Going to go.
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Well, because we know that's just not true and experience.
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Yeah, well, I know what I hear you.
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Saying I think it's.
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Very true.
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We've talked about it here.
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Just encouraged by a couple of testimonies already from the podcast so far.
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One of them was actually from our friend Bert, and he was telling me they would enjoy it about is that we're talking about this as a journey, not a destination.
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And sometimes in our Western thinking we we think that thriving is when I get to this point.
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Right then I'll be thriving when I get to this point of wealth.
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When I get to this point of relationship, when I get to this point of whatever it may.
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Be then I'll be thriving.
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But what we find out that it's empty.
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And so today what we want to focus on.
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Really start looking at some scriptures that help us maybe redefine especially for those of us in the Western world.
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You know what real true defining and maybe how Jesus would help us.
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Define thriving.
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And so we're going to look at a couple of.
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Context here of Scripture.
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One of the main ones that I want to look.
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At is really that John 1010.
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I don't have that one to put up on the screen. If you've got it there, you want to have me read it. But it's John 1010.
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Sure, it's the thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy.
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I came that they may have life and have it abundantly.
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And there's a couple there's.
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Yes, the eye.
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Is Jesus and that abundantly there it is, really where we take out of the thought around the thrive and that that fullness or that thriving that they got desires for us.
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Is when we're walking in the fullness and the fullness.
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Of what I.
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Believe Jesus has for us and so.
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We're going to talk today.
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Coming out of John 14, so if you wanna join us, we're gonna be looking.
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At John 14.
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We're going to start today in, in verse 11, so I just want to give you kind of the setting here of what's going on.
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So in in in Chapter 14, one through 10, I can summarize it in just about a a sentence here.
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So essentially, Jesus saying don't worry, you can trust me.
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I'm the way the truth and.
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The life and that my father and I are one.
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Together on this and then Jesus is going to start to share.
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With us, some things that we're going to tie this all together here around why we see this as helping us understand what thriving is.
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So if you want to start.
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Reading Michael, I'll put it up on.
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The screen here for us as well if folks want to read along.
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But this is John.
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14 and we're going to start again in verse 11.
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All right, verse 11.
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Just believe that I am in the father and the father is in me, or at least believe because of the work you have seen me do.
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I tell you the truth.
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Anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works because I am going.
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To be with the father.
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You can ask for everything in my name and I will do it so that the son.
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Can bring glory to the father.
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Yes, ask me for anything in my name.
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And I will.
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Do it.
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If you love me, obey my commandments, and I will ask the father and he will give you another advocate who will.
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Never leave you.
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He is the Holy Spirit who leads into all truth.
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The world cannot receive him because it isn't looking for him and doesn't recognize him.
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But you know him because he lives with you now.
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And later we'll be in.
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No, I will not abandon you.
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As orphans.
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I will come to you soon.
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The world will no longer see me.
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But you will see me since I live.
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You also will live when I am raised to life again, you will know that I am in the father and you are in me and I.
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Am in you.
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Those who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones who love me, and because they love me.
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My father will love them and I will love them and reveal myself to each of them.
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OK, Judith not.
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Yeah. Stop there, all right.
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Let's just stop there for a second.
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Look at this first portion here.
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There's several key things that I think that we want to focus on here.
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The first thing in if we go back up that I want to point out is Jesus is saying here in verse 11.
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That the father and he are one and this is coming out of the context where Philip is essentially asking him, you know, would you show us the father and and Jesus in some?
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Ways you know, it's kind of like.
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Come on, Phillip.
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You still don't know.
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Who I am, you know if.
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You've seen me, you've seen the.
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Father, we're we're on the same agenda and and when we look at Jesus's life, we'd obviously that Jesus was thriving.
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Now, at the end of his life, you know, it might not appear as thriving, and we're going to look at that in in just a.
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Moment here in verse.
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31 of this chapter, but he's telling us here something he's telling us that not only have you seen these things in me, but in verse 12 he's saying I tell you the truth, that anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done.
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Even greater ones.
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Because I'm going to go to the father.
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And so one of the things I believe this can help us to understand what real thriving is when we think about in, like in Luke, he Luke 9:00 and 10:00, he talks about how he sent the disciples out to heal the sick, to cast out demons, to proclaim the good news of the Kingdom.
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And so these were the things that Jesus was doing on a regular basis.
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Michael, I don't know if we haven't.
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If you have talked about this, but Sherry and I and.
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The boys have loved watching.
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The chosen seed.
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And there's different points and times during the chosen where one scene that I remember vividly is when Jesus had been, like literally all day praying.
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For people are coming to him.
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Come to him praying and and he comes back.
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He's completely worn out because that day he had been healing the sick, casting out demons and proclaiming the good news the Kingdom.
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And he he was went out and and it the scene was interesting because he comes back and the disciples are kind of fighting over some stuff you know internally.
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But the thriving part of this I believe that got once for each of us is as disciples.
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I believe he's called us and equipped us to be vessels that he can flow through, not not for us, but but through us.
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We get the benefits of the spirit of God coming into us, and this is part of what he's going to start to.
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Help us understand here that with the Holy Spirit.
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These are the way.
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This is the way that we can do these works and it's not about again what I want to folks here is not.
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We're not about.
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Works like the doing, but it's the.
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And and and the majority of my life, I've struggled with this aspect of being a doer instead of a beer.
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But I believe what Jesus was, how he was thriving, he was being with the father, he was in unity with the father, being in one mind.
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In one accord.
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So right.
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What are your thoughts?
00:11:08 Michael Blue
Yeah, I mean it, this is, you know.
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This is a.
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Part of really the beginning of the farewell discourse and John, so it takes up, you know, like 1/3 of John.
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And it's Jesus last words.
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The disciples in the upper room.
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And that's before he leaves.
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And really, the invitation is just what you said.
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It's an invitation to join him.
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I get it's this.
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You know, come and and and look at these great things as we will do together.
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And and I think Jesus is describing a life of thriving which we know isn't a life of comfort for these these disciples, but it is.
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I mean, just looking at the words and how he describes him as you know, have.
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Someone who will?
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Never lead you who?
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Leads you into truth.
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The world cannot receive and and he's just saying you will do these things with me.
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As we walk together and it's it's just a beautiful invitation as we think about, these are the words Jesus is saying.
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Remember these words as I go to the.
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Cross and then right from the dead.
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But these are the words that I want to leave with you.
00:12:06 Dan Schilling
Well, and you have talked about this a number of.
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Times many times and we we.
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Use just certain portions and parts of text to to prove a point that we want interested them.
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Many folks use here verse 13 and 14 as like a blank.
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Check like you can ask for anything in my name and I'll do it like, hey, you can ask for the Ferrari.
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You can ask for great wealth.
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You can ask for the promotion.
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You can ask for all these things, but I believe the the context of what he's trying to help us understand here is when we're asking the things that that we're the things of the father, the desires.
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Of our father's heart. And then he's going to start telling us here in verse 15 that if you love me, you're going to obey my commands. And I'm going to then send you this advocate, this, this one who's going to actually come alongside you and help you understand what it is that you should be asking.
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Not asking for the things that appeal to the flesh nature, but the things that appeal.
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To the spirit inside of us and what he wants to do in US and through us.
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And because he is going to in like in verse seven, he is going.
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To lead us.
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Into all truth, he's not going to abandon us.
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He's going to come.
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And be with us.
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But the folks of the world aren't going to get it because we're going to do things he's going to lead us in in ways that for others are going to say, well, that's.
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Not thriving that that.
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That would be terrible.
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I just got a testimony from again from our friend Bertie sent me this testimony out.
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I won't give the details.
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I haven't had full permission.
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But when we get a.
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Chance to share this if we are this.
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Was a story about a guy in another country who literally was imprisoned and and taken from his normal life.
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As a Christian.
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And essentially taken from his family for over 3 months and and so as I'm reading this.
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Storm thing. Wow.
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You know this and how God used it to propagate the gospel to to a group of people and think man, am I willing to go that far?
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Am I willing to allow him?
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Are those really the good works that he's wanting to do?
00:14:12 Michael Blue
Yeah, I I think I, you know, I'm looking even at at 15 in Chapter 15 where he says if you abide in me and my words abide and you ask whatever you wish and it will be done for you.
00:14:21 Michael Blue
And that's I think we have two, two polar opposite like ways we approach this passage.
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We either take it as this kind of goofy blank check.
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Whatever I want, I can get or or we just make it 100% spiritual and then basically neuter it of its meaning and and just say you know, God's going to.
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Do it.
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He's going to do.
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And I don't really have much part in.
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And so, you know, I just pray God your will and and I just kind of go along and the deterministic type and outlook on life.
00:14:53 Michael Blue
And I I think that neither one is is a proper understanding of of either of these.
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I do think that God has tremendous promises for us when we walk with him or and step with him when we do abide in him, and his words abide.
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And as there.
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Is a power in our prayers as.
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We approach the.
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Throne of God that we shouldn't die.
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So it's that.
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Yes, that's great point.
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Holding intention.
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Yeah, that we have this.
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Opportunity to walk.
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Just as Jesus.
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You know, asked for his father to.
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We we now stand in a position as brothers with Christ as Hebrews tells us, and we can ask and and approach boldly the throne.
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But that's not this again, this goofy.
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Hey I can get whatever I want because I've got this that there's there's a lot more to it and there still is the depth of God knowing ultimately his will is is superior and his knowledge is superior to us.
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And sometimes we ask for things that we think.
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They're good.
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Then in the end, aren't actually in.
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It bring aren't actually good or won't actually bring him glory.
00:15:54 Dan Schilling
Yes, yes. Well, I want to go back to 21 for just a second and I'll have you keep reading kind of to keep going here. But this 21 again reminds me of where we're heading as an organization here.
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Follow thrive and so.
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So those who accept my commands or receive his word.
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So we hear his voice.
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Those who are willing to accept it and obey.
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That are willing to follow so.
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Hear it?
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Follow it or obey.
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They're the ones who love me.
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And because they love me, the father will love them and I will love them and reveal myself to each one of them.
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And I think that's part of what's thriving and we're going to see here next of what really thriving looks like.
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Is the more that we grow in our love for Jesus and the ways of his Kingdom we our desire to do those things isn't because of.
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The the the fear of punishment or the fear of judgment, it's because we love him and our desire is because we we one know him.
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We want to be.
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One with he and the father and the spirit is also drawing us to that place as well.
00:17:03 Michael Blue
Yeah, and it's, it's.
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This question that we all have to ask ourselves is do we actually believe him?
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And this here follow thrive that?
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OK, I've I've heard and I know and and that if I follow if I actually.
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Obey. Will that lead?
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To thriving cause.
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Sometimes these things, you know, like the rich and.
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Ruler and and other people it seems like.
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Man, I'm not going to be OK or I'm.
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Not going to be quote.
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UN quote thriving. I'm not, you know, it's certainly not from a worldly standpoint.
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So then I have to.
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Trust what is your presence?
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That good is your, you know, are your gifts of yourself and and.
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And all of these other things that.
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You promised me of community.
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And and whatnot, are they actually?
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Better than the things of the world.
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And so then I hold back on the following.
00:17:49 Michael Blue
So I've heard, but I'm unwilling to really follow because I don't believe thrive.
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Thing is actually going to be what God promises, or a question was.
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That there will be.
00:17:59 Dan Schilling
So I I got to do this right here.
00:18:01 Dan Schilling
So you and I were together in February and you were just speaking at a conference.
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I'll let you decide if you want tell.
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The conference or?
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And you were asked a question at that conference and I want you to tell about that what it was.
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Don't hold back.
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Tell what was going on.
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And and what your answer was, because this was a panel discussion and but I what I want to say is.
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My time with you there were probably at least a half a dozen people that came up to us throughout and we're like, man, that was mic drop moment.
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That was amazing and I believe the reason why it was a mic drop moment is because.
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The Holy Spirit spoke.
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Through you and everybody like, that's the truth.
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And so tell us about what that was.
00:18:46 Michael Blue
Yeah, I I remember.
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I was having a pretty good laugh because, you know, at the end of the day, my answer to the question was Jesus.
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And it's like you're a Christian conference.
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And the answer to.
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Jesus name is.
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Like ohh.
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Think of it like.
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But an answer.
00:18:58 Michael Blue
That answer right?
00:19:00 Michael Blue
So it's it's not.
00:19:01 Michael Blue
That it was necessarily even.
00:19:03 Michael Blue
That profound. But it I was a part of a panel at a conference of of financial advisors, and there was about 2000 plus financial advisors.
00:19:12 Michael Blue
At this conference.
00:19:13 Michael Blue
And so it was, I was on the conference with three other people and.
00:19:16 Michael Blue
The topic that we were given.
00:19:18 Michael Blue
To discuss was how much is enough.
00:19:20 Michael Blue
Right, so this it's a great question that financial advisors deal with with their clients hopefully and and say OK, let's set finish lines, let's just not blindly accumulate forever.
00:19:30 Michael Blue
And so there it's a really.
00:19:30 Michael Blue
Good starting point.
00:19:33 Michael Blue
But I think you know we can unpack this later and maybe.
00:19:35 Michael Blue
Some other episodes of of of.
00:19:37 Michael Blue
The question and and and how we maybe even unwind the question a little bit more.
00:19:42 Michael Blue
So I got asked the question by the moderator guy named John Reinhardt.
00:19:46 Michael Blue
Good friend, and he he as we're closing out, he said.
00:19:50 Michael Blue
Michael, you know if if you could answer the question for us, you know how.
00:19:53 Michael Blue
Much is enough.
00:19:54 Michael Blue
What would you say?
00:19:56 Michael Blue
How much is enough to?
00:19:57 Michael Blue
To these financial advisors and.
00:20:00 Michael Blue
You know, as I, as I've studied scripture and think about Hebrews and think about Paul and Philippians and says, you know, I I can have.
00:20:06 Michael Blue
Much and I can.
00:20:07 Michael Blue
Have a little bit this this secret to contentment is, is who I trust.
00:20:11 Michael Blue
And so I said to him, I said the the answer, I've come to the conclusion of.
00:20:16 Michael Blue
To the question of how much is enough, isn't a number, it's a person.
00:20:20 Michael Blue
Right, I kind.
00:20:21 Michael Blue
Of left it there.
00:20:22 Michael Blue
That was it.
00:20:22 Michael Blue
That was.
00:20:23 Michael Blue
The end of it, I think they.
00:20:23
The cliffhanger, yeah.
00:20:24 Michael Blue
Knew they knew who the person.
00:20:26 Michael Blue
Was I was talking about but.
00:20:29 Michael Blue
That's true, and that's true.
00:20:31 Michael Blue
That's true.
00:20:31 Michael Blue
With contentment, all these things, the answer to the question that we're searching for isn't something it's some one right.
00:20:38 Michael Blue
And so Christ is the answer to these longings of my heart.
00:20:42 Michael Blue
It's just that I try to say.
00:20:43 Michael Blue
Yeah, but what about this?
00:20:44 Michael Blue
Or I try to?
00:20:45 Michael Blue
Append a lot on to Christ with it.
00:20:48 Michael Blue
So I'll take him, but I also don't want to.
00:20:50 Michael Blue
I don't want to let go of these things.
00:20:51 Michael Blue
But I'm going to.
00:20:52 Michael Blue
So then I end up kind of covering these things.
00:20:54 Michael Blue
I'm showing a fist of.
00:20:55 Michael Blue
The things in.
00:20:56 Michael Blue
My hand covering them with some Christianity and some verses, and so my how much is enough question.
00:21:02 Michael Blue
Becomes a good starting place, but if I'm unwilling to let go of all these things I've clenched in my hand, all I'm doing is I'm just covering it up, trying to make it look more Christian, when in fact it's just really the world covered in some Bible verses.
00:21:17 Dan Schilling
Yes, yes.
00:21:19 Dan Schilling
Well, and it's a great point, Michael, that's.
00:21:21 Dan Schilling
Why I wanted you to share it.
00:21:23 Dan Schilling
This is really.
00:21:25 Dan Schilling
Thriving is a journey.
00:21:27 Dan Schilling
And so there are points, right?
00:21:29 Dan Schilling
I mean I I got to understand that God owns it all.
00:21:31 Dan Schilling
That's that's a key point.
00:21:32 Dan Schilling
I I have to understand that I can't come out with a closed fist.
00:21:34 Dan Schilling
I I.
00:21:35 Dan Schilling
Have to continue, but the moment that I stop.
00:21:38 Dan Schilling
Growing in intimacy, the the moment I'm no longer listening.
00:21:43 Dan Schilling
To God's voice.
00:21:45 Dan Schilling
You know I'm no longer hearing him.
00:21:46 Dan Schilling
I'm no longer following him.
00:21:48 Dan Schilling
I'm not going to thrive.
00:21:49 Dan Schilling
And so again, that's why when I say working backwards is the moment I stop hearing.
00:21:54 Dan Schilling
I'm not.
00:21:55 Dan Schilling
I'm not going to follow because otherwise I'm following myself.
00:21:59 Dan Schilling
And if I'm following myself, I'm surely not going to thrive.
00:22:03 Dan Schilling
And so money, obviously is one of those key obstacles, and you and I've been around that world a long time to see it.
00:22:10 Dan Schilling
But what we're going to see here, let's keep going. What Jesus is going to continue to encourage us on this line of thinking. So once you keep going there in verse 22.
00:22:23 Michael Blue
So Judas, not Judas Iscariot, but the other disciple with that name said to Jesus or him.
00:22:28 Michael Blue
Lord, why are you going to reveal yourself only to us and.
00:22:31 Michael Blue
Not to the world at large.
00:22:33 Michael Blue
Jesus replied all.
00:22:35 Michael Blue
Who love me will do what I say.
00:22:37 Michael Blue
My father will love them and we will come and make our home with each of them.
00:22:42 Michael Blue
Any anyone who doesn't love me will not obey me and remember my words are not my own.
00:22:47 Michael Blue
What I'm telling you is from the father who sent me.
00:22:49 Michael Blue
I'm telling you these things now while I'm still.
00:22:52 Michael Blue
With you.
00:22:52 Michael Blue
But when the father sends the advocate as my representative, that is the Holy Spirit, he will teach you everything and will remind you of everything.
00:23:01 Michael Blue
I have told you.
00:23:02 Michael Blue
I am leaving you with a gift.
00:23:04 Michael Blue
Peace of Mind and heart and peace.
00:23:07 Michael Blue
I and the peace I give.
00:23:08 Michael Blue
Is a gift the.
00:23:08 Michael Blue
World cannot give, so don't be.
00:23:10 Michael Blue
Troubled or afraid?
00:23:13 Dan Schilling
Yes. And so these are some significant to me I think promises right is that if you love me you you're going to do us and the father's going to love you and then we're going.
00:23:24 Dan Schilling
To come make our.
00:23:25 Dan Schilling
Home with you.
00:23:27 Dan Schilling
And to me that.
00:23:28 Dan Schilling
You talk about thriving.
00:23:29 Dan Schilling
You know that that the, the living God.
00:23:33 Dan Schilling
Can be inside of us, and that's what I want to go back for.
00:23:37 Dan Schilling
Just a moment.
00:23:38 Dan Schilling
I I didn't hit this earlier, but here when you inverse 17 he he says to us here.
00:23:46 Dan Schilling
But he lives.
00:23:46 Dan Schilling
With you now, but later we'll be in you.
00:23:52 Dan Schilling
That he's Speaking of.
00:23:52 Dan Schilling
The Holy Spirit that that Jesus.
00:23:55 Dan Schilling
Because he was the sinless, spotless lamb was going to sacrifice his life to lay down for us, so that that we could then have.
00:24:06 Dan Schilling
That blood that covers our sins so that the spirit now could come because the spirit is not going to dwell in the same place as a as sin.
00:24:14 Dan Schilling
God's holy he doesn't in sin don't coexist, and so he's. I'm going to come and make.
00:24:20 Dan Schilling
A way for you.
00:24:21 Dan Schilling
For my spirit to come now be inside of you and.
00:24:24
What a.
00:24:27 Dan Schilling
What a great hope for all of.
00:24:29 Dan Schilling
Us right that he wants to come make his home, right.
00:24:32 Dan Schilling
We talk about the Kingdom.
00:24:33 Dan Schilling
A Kingdom is where a king has dominion and and where does the King of Kings want to have dominion?
00:24:39 Dan Schilling
Or where does he want?
00:24:40 Dan Schilling
To make his home.
00:24:41 Dan Schilling
He wants to make that home in the heart.
00:24:45 Dan Schilling
Of you and I.
00:24:46 Michael Blue
Right.
00:24:47 Michael Blue
Yeah, I mean, what and and?
00:24:50 Michael Blue
I mean, what?
00:24:50 Michael Blue
A promise.
00:24:51 Michael Blue
That he's giving and and that if.
00:24:54 Michael Blue
You, you know, Fast forward through this.
00:24:56 Michael Blue
Discourse, you know, he's given these amazing promises and they do exactly what you and I often do and say, OK God, now we get it.
00:25:04 Michael Blue
And he looks at them and says really, do you get it?
00:25:07 Michael Blue
You really think you understand?
00:25:10 Michael Blue
You don't because you don't have the Holy Spirit in you yet, and you can't understand.
00:25:14 Michael Blue
And so you try to go do it on your own.
00:25:15 Michael Blue
And what happens?
00:25:16 Michael Blue
They run away right when the first sign of trouble comes.
00:25:20 Michael Blue
But he doesn't lose them.
00:25:21 Michael Blue
He doesn't give up on them because.
00:25:23 Michael Blue
Of it, he.
00:25:24 Michael Blue
Pursues them and then he does bring the holy.
00:25:26 Michael Blue
Spirit and they do.
00:25:27 Michael Blue
See and they do experience it.
00:25:30 Michael Blue
And so it's.
00:25:31 Michael Blue
It's just this.
00:25:32 Michael Blue
It is a wrestling and it's the journey as we've talked about like this isn't something that boom.
00:25:37 Michael Blue
I've got it.
00:25:37 Michael Blue
I'm never wrestling with it again, even as I hear these words.
00:25:41 Michael Blue
I question is this what it looks like God and so I try to work that out a little bit and I stumble and I fall and I get back up and I and I pursue and I pursue and I pursue and through time God just continues to draw an air.
00:25:52 Michael Blue
He continues to be tender.
00:25:53 Michael Blue
He continues to be gentle.
00:25:55 Michael Blue
And I I began to experience more of this thriving of a relationship and intimacy with.
00:26:01 Dan Schilling
Yes, well, there's more promises here too, right? I mean, you look at verse 25. He says, you know, I tell you these things now because now, because I'm going to go.
00:26:11 Dan Schilling
So I'm giving you ahead of time what's coming.
00:26:13 Dan Schilling
So I mean, sometimes the struggle for most of us is we don't know what's to come.
00:26:17 Dan Schilling
He's telling him I'm.
00:26:18 Dan Schilling
I'm going to be giving.
00:26:20 Dan Schilling
You something and so.
00:26:21 Dan Schilling
This Holy Spirit, this advocate, this representative who's gonna come.
00:26:25 Dan Schilling
He he's gonna teach you everything.
00:26:28 Dan Schilling
And remind you of everything it.
00:26:29
Told you.
00:26:30 Dan Schilling
He's going to.
00:26:32 Dan Schilling
Be a gift.
00:26:33 Dan Schilling
You're going to have Peace of Mind.
00:26:35 Dan Schilling
Peace in your.
00:26:36 Dan Schilling
Heart that peace not like the world can give.
00:26:39 Dan Schilling
So you don't have to be troubled.
00:26:41 Dan Schilling
You don't have to be afraid.
00:26:42 Dan Schilling
And to me, what?
00:26:43 Dan Schilling
What's the value of that gift?
00:26:47 Dan Schilling
I mean, how many things in our life are we ruled by fear are are we ruled by the things of the flesh that are killing and destroying us?
00:26:57 Dan Schilling
Anything you, you.
00:26:58 Dan Schilling
Don't have to have that.
00:26:59 Dan Schilling
You don't have to be like the world cause I can bring up.
00:27:02 Dan Schilling
I mean, more money is not gonna bring me peace. More power is not gonna bring me more peace. More, you know, physical intimacy was outside of God's design, and merit is not going to bring more fulfillment and peace.
00:27:13 Dan Schilling
But what he wants for us is to receive.
00:27:16 Dan Schilling
This gift.
00:27:17 Dan Schilling
And so I think what a great promise that Jesus is trying to give.
00:27:20 Dan Schilling
To us.
00:27:20 Dan Schilling
Here again in John 14 so.
00:27:24 Dan Schilling
Any other thing else?
00:27:25 Dan Schilling
Here's one hit before we move over to Galatians.
00:27:28 Michael Blue
Yeah, I mean.
00:27:29 Michael Blue
Just thinking about I'm, I'm preaching at my church on Sunday on in Hebrews Chapter 210 to 18 and he.
00:27:36 Michael Blue
Talks about how.
00:27:38 Michael Blue
Satan has the the power of of death, and Jesus comes and destroys that power.
00:27:44 Michael Blue
But it's it's this, and we're enslaved to this fear of death.
00:27:48 Michael Blue
And I think that we see a lack of peace.
00:27:50 Michael Blue
We see a lack of ability to rest in him because we're we we don't have confidence that death isn't the end.
00:27:57 Michael Blue
We don't have confidence that we have to get everything we can out of out of this room.
00:28:01 Michael Blue
So we.
00:28:02 Michael Blue
Can't have peace, ultimately.
00:28:04 Michael Blue
And he's giving us something that is spiritual, that is living in that eternal realm to give us that peace to, to give us the confidence that that is ultimately what's coming.
00:28:15 Michael Blue
And to say, hey, look, I've defeated, I've destroyed this death that has power over you.
00:28:23 Dan Schilling
Well, the last thing I want to we're going to skip a couple verses here and just go down to.
00:28:27 Dan Schilling
Verse 31 and we're going to highlight this in just a minute. Minute, but you.
00:28:32 Dan Schilling
Want to read?
00:28:33 Dan Schilling
Verse 31 there. This is again still John 14.
00:28:37 Michael Blue
Yes, it says, but I will do what the father requires of me so that the world will know that I love the father.
00:28:42 Michael Blue
Come, let's be.
00:28:45 Dan Schilling
OK.
00:28:46 Dan Schilling
And maybe I better have you.
00:28:47 Dan Schilling
Read verse 30.
00:28:48
Just just so that's.
00:28:49 Dan Schilling
Not taken out of context for folks that are listening here because Jesus giving us some context, maybe go and read that verse too.
00:28:57 Michael Blue
Verse 30.
00:28:58 Michael Blue
So he says I don't have much time.
00:29:00 Michael Blue
I don't have much more.
00:29:01 Michael Blue
Time to talk to you because the ruler.
00:29:02 Michael Blue
Of this world approaches.
00:29:04 Michael Blue
He has no power.
00:29:05 Michael Blue
Over me.
00:29:06 Michael Blue
But I will do it.
00:29:06 Michael Blue
The father requires of me so the world will know that I love the father.
00:29:11
Right.
00:29:11 Dan Schilling
And I think why this is important, why I should have probably included this right away is I think that same promise exists.
00:29:18 Dan Schilling
For each of us today.
00:29:20 Dan Schilling
That we we are. He's given us authority. We we look at Matthew 28 when he talks about the Great Commission.
00:29:28 Dan Schilling
Says now all all.
00:29:29 Dan Schilling
Authority in heaven and Earth has been given to me and and now go with that authority that when we're walking in, intimacy doesn't mean we're not going to have temptation doesn't mean we're.
00:29:39 Dan Schilling
Not going to have trials.
00:29:41 Dan Schilling
Not that we're going to be faced with like Jesus when he went to the garden, he said.
00:29:46 Dan Schilling
Father, if there be any other way, let this cup pass from me, which was after this moment, right?
00:29:51 Dan Schilling
And so did he struggle.
00:29:53 Dan Schilling
Or did he?
00:29:53 Dan Schilling
Know what was about to happen to.
00:29:55 Dan Schilling
Him he knew what was coming.
00:29:56 Dan Schilling
Yes, but he.
00:29:58 Dan Schilling
Knew what he was called to and he says I will do what the father.
00:30:01 Dan Schilling
Requires of me.
00:30:04 Dan Schilling
So that the world would know that I love the father.
00:30:05 Dan Schilling
I mean, he was showing us what an example, what it means to thrive and I think.
00:30:10 Dan Schilling
One of the key parts.
00:30:12 Dan Schilling
For each of us if.
00:30:14 Dan Schilling
We're going to thrive.
00:30:15 Dan Schilling
It means I got.
00:30:16 Dan Schilling
To lay down my life.
00:30:17 Dan Schilling
And he told us and and Luke, right.
00:30:20 Dan Schilling
That that, we.
00:30:21 Dan Schilling
Daily take up our cross.
00:30:23 Dan Schilling
That we daily, you know, are on this journey and that daily dying.
00:30:28 Dan Schilling
To self is actually.
00:30:29 Dan Schilling
Really leading us to a life of thriving.
00:30:33 Dan Schilling
And easing modeling into us Jesus fully God and fully man comes and says, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to do this even though it's going to be a pretty painful process, I'm going to do what the father requires of me so.
00:30:47 Dan Schilling
That you know that I love him and this is what I want to want you to do as well.
00:30:54
It's good.
00:30:54 Dan Schilling
Easier said than done, right?
00:30:58 Michael Blue
Easier said than done, as as many things, but.
00:31:01 Michael Blue
What a promise to walk into.
00:31:03 Dan Schilling
Yes. All right. So I.
00:31:05
Want to kind?
00:31:07 Dan Schilling
Of on the topic here, as we're talking about.
00:31:09 Dan Schilling
The Holy Spirit, the need for Holy Spirit in US receiving that gift that Jesus made for us.
00:31:17 Dan Schilling
I'm going to move now to a portion of text here from Galatians.
00:31:21 Dan Schilling
This would be Paul's writing to the Church of Galatia in Chapter 5, very familiar to many of you. When we look at this passage, but I want to tie this in.
00:31:31 Dan Schilling
So what we're talking about here? So once you start there in verse 19 and we're going to read down through 24.
00:31:39 Michael Blue
OK.
00:31:41
When you follow.
00:31:42 Michael Blue
The desires of your central nature.
00:31:43 Michael Blue
The results are very clear.
00:31:45 Michael Blue
Sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these.
00:31:58 Michael Blue
Let me tell you again as I have before, that anyone living that sort.
00:32:01 Michael Blue
Of life will not inherit the.
00:32:03 Michael Blue
Kingdom of God.
00:32:04 Michael Blue
But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives. Love, Joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. There is no law against these things.
00:32:18 Michael Blue
Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions and desires of their sinful nature to his cross and crucified them there.
00:32:27 Dan Schilling
Yes, let's read 25 as well. Sorry.
00:32:30 Michael Blue
Since we are living by the spirit, let us follow the spirits leading in every part of our lives.
00:32:38 Dan Schilling
This context again for us to be encouraged is.
00:32:42 Dan Schilling
All of us have.
00:32:44 Dan Schilling
The sin nature.
00:32:45 Dan Schilling
All of us.
00:32:46 Dan Schilling
Have the desires of sin, but they always produce something like maybe I would rephrase that first one is, you know, infidelity or sexual immorality, right?
00:32:59 Dan Schilling
There's this process that this is what the flesh is going to bring out, that sin nature is going to bring out.
00:33:05 Dan Schilling
It's going to want us to go after those lustful pleasures, the the riches, the cares, the pleasures of this world.
00:33:12 Dan Schilling
It's going to lead us to putting our you and I've talked about this topic and you've had some great teachings around idolatry in the different idols that we have in our life and we don't even recognize them.
00:33:26 Dan Schilling
Idolatry and we look at our families and relationships, our political climate, our things.
00:33:32 Dan Schilling
In the world.
00:33:33 Dan Schilling
How much quarreling and jealousy?
00:33:35 Dan Schilling
Outbursts of anger?
00:33:36 Dan Schilling
Selfish ambition, which is the essence of pride.
00:33:40 Dan Schilling
When I put myself first, how much dissension?
00:33:42 Dan Schilling
Division, envy, drunkenness, parties all the things that we see.
00:33:47 Dan Schilling
Around us, not just outside the body of Christ, but obviously this is Paul's warning to those inside to the Church of Galatia.
00:33:56 Dan Schilling
And so he's trying to encourage us that if we if we go the way.
00:33:59 Dan Schilling
Of the of.
00:34:00 Dan Schilling
The flesh we're we're not going to thrive, which is to me, this word, he says.
00:34:05 Dan Schilling
You're not going to inherit.
00:34:08 Dan Schilling
The things of the Kingdom God has something better for us and he wants for us to inherit.
00:34:13 Dan Schilling
He wants for us to receive that gift that Holy Spirit.
00:34:19 Dan Schilling
So what are your thoughts on this?
00:34:24 Michael Blue
Yeah, I mean it's it's even as as I think about this passage, I mean both both of you know the sinful desires, central nature and the Holy Spirit.
00:34:33 Michael Blue
It says you know, the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit and says when you follow desires, the results are clear.
00:34:38 Michael Blue
So these these both of these things are products.
00:34:42 Michael Blue
Of of what we're.
00:34:44 Michael Blue
Pursuing right or or who who is dearest to us, so when?
00:34:48 Michael Blue
We pursue our lustful desire or our desires of our sinful nature.
00:34:53 Michael Blue
We're going to see our lives that are full of these types of things.
00:34:56 Michael Blue
Anger and selfish ambition and impurity and lustful pleasures, and so on.
00:35:00 Michael Blue
In my own life, when I see.
00:35:01 Michael Blue
That I'm having.
00:35:02 Michael Blue
Trouble with those types of things.
00:35:04 Michael Blue
It's probably because I I am following the desires of my central nature.
00:35:07 Michael Blue
I'm allowing those to reside in my heart, in my life and and I'm not rooting them out.
00:35:13 Dan Schilling
But then when?
00:35:14 Michael Blue
I draw near to God when I, you know, kind of approach him in this way and I begin to see myself, you know, develop and again, these aren't these aren't commands, right.
00:35:24 Michael Blue
The fruit of the spirit is not commands to.
00:35:25 Michael Blue
Be followed.
00:35:26 Michael Blue
Go be more loving.
00:35:27 Michael Blue
Go be more joyful.
00:35:27 Michael Blue
They're actually products.
00:35:29 Michael Blue
Of the life.
00:35:29 Michael Blue
Live near God as as I live with Christ.
00:35:31 Michael Blue
What you see in my life is is love and joy and peace and patience.
00:35:35 Michael Blue
And so it's not I gotta work harder to produce these things, just like I don't have to work that hard to produce the the desires of my sinful nature.
00:35:42 Michael Blue
They're natural and I don't think, oh, I got to go out and be more selfishly ambitious, right?
00:35:48 Michael Blue
Or I need to go stir up more division.
00:35:50 Michael Blue
I just.
00:35:52 Michael Blue
You know, I'm kind of cantankerous and and I get.
00:35:54 Michael Blue
In that way with.
00:35:56 Michael Blue
People because I am following these.
00:35:59 Michael Blue
So I think so much.
00:36:00 Dan Schilling
Of this hearing.
00:36:01 Michael Blue
Following and thriving, it comes.
00:36:02 Michael Blue
I'm I'm hearing I'm following and that.
00:36:04 Michael Blue
Means what it.
00:36:05 Michael Blue
What's happening is is the thriving is the product of my position.
00:36:09 Michael Blue
It's not kind.
00:36:10 Michael Blue
Of me trying to do these things in a better way.
00:36:14 Dan Schilling
So good.
00:36:15 Dan Schilling
And it's just as we kind of wrap up and wind down here just.
00:36:19 Dan Schilling
Again, to me, that God's desire for us is to be in us, right? Our our part is to daily take up the cross to daily lay down these desires.
00:36:30 Dan Schilling
I'd rather do it this way.
00:36:32 Dan Schilling
Right, I'd rather because I don't have to work it.
00:36:34 Dan Schilling
Like you said, I don't have.
00:36:35 Dan Schilling
To work it to.
00:36:35 Dan Schilling
Sin nature.
00:36:35 Dan Schilling
It's already in there, but to willingly say God have your way today.
00:36:39 Dan Schilling
Holy Spirit lead me in paths of righteousness.
00:36:42 Dan Schilling
Allow you to have more, as Paul said, that you would increase and that I.
00:36:47 Dan Schilling
Would decrease come.
00:36:49 Dan Schilling
Come and be more at home.
00:36:51 Dan Schilling
Here, take up more residence in this.
00:36:54 Dan Schilling
Part so that you will produce in me love and joy and peace and patience.
00:37:02 Dan Schilling
And he's he's wanting that.
00:37:04 Dan Schilling
But it's that's our part, right?
00:37:05 Dan Schilling
Our part is to say I want to have you be more at home.
00:37:10 Dan Schilling
Like we looked in that previous back.
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I want you to have more at home.
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In my heart I want you to.
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And sometimes that means he's gonna lead us.
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Into places that are not always easy.
00:37:20 Dan Schilling
And so we're going to continue in the future.
00:37:22 Dan Schilling
We're going to continue to be looking at what does thriving look like.
00:37:26 Dan Schilling
In in God's word and and it doesn't always look like again what we think from a Western mindset so.
00:37:34 Dan Schilling
Michael, won't you give us a?
00:37:34 Dan Schilling
Couple of these thoughts.
00:37:36 Dan Schilling
Here to wrap up some of the main points that we wanted to pull out today, when I go through those with us.
00:37:42 Michael Blue
So, I mean, I think we've talked about kind of first thing is when we thrive when the flesh or sin nature doesn't.
00:37:47 Michael Blue
Rule over us, right?
00:37:49 Michael Blue
So when when we're following, we're not following desires overseen from nature.
00:37:52 Michael Blue
We thrive when we receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, which has been promised to us, right.
00:37:56 Michael Blue
So we have this kind of gift of thriving that exists, but we we also have to.
00:38:01 Michael Blue
Engage with him.
00:38:03 Michael Blue
And finally, we thrive when we submit to the will of the father, just like Jesus submitted to the.
00:38:08 Michael Blue
Will of the father.
00:38:08 Michael Blue
So when we actually trust him that following him does result in thriving, that's when we ultimately.
00:38:15 Michael Blue
Thrive because we are are.
00:38:16 Michael Blue
Walking in obedience and submission to him.
00:38:21 Dan Schilling
Well, again, thanks for tuning in today, give you a couple of action steps from here. If this has been encouragement to share with somebody, send the link, post it on your social media, do something that is a way to encourage others because our heart is to help you hear God's voice.
00:38:40 Dan Schilling
Follow his lead and thrive as a disciple, and now you have a chance to share that with others as well.
00:38:45 Dan Schilling
So just want to encourage on that if you want to join us, we want to have you on the journey with us, we don't again.
00:38:50 Dan Schilling
Have this all figured out, we're.
00:38:51 Dan Schilling
Still growing, learning and in the process ourselves.
00:38:55 Dan Schilling
But we're just grateful that you're here with us and want to join us on the journey so you can go to feedsheep.org and find ways to connect and just be with us. And we'd love to have you. So, Michael, once you pray for us, wrap us up for today.
00:39:08 Michael Blue
Thanks, Dan.
00:39:09 Michael Blue
God, we, we desire to, to thrive and and understand thriving in the way that you have designed us to thrive and.
00:39:16 Michael Blue
So I just asked that you would fill each.
00:39:18 Michael Blue
Of us each listener with.
00:39:21 Michael Blue
A sense of wisdom and and and your presence and and peace and.
00:39:26 Michael Blue
And hearing and.
00:39:27 Michael Blue
Obeying and trusting that that what you promise is better than anything that we can conjure up or anything that we can pursue.
00:39:35 Michael Blue
Give us that perspective.
00:39:36 Michael Blue
Give us.
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That desire and and.
00:39:39 Michael Blue
I just pray that you would be with each of us.
00:39:41 Michael Blue
And draw us near to you.
00:39:43 Michael Blue
And Jesus never pray.
00:39:45 Dan Schilling
And then.
00:39:46 Dan Schilling
Well, thanks for joining us.
00:39:47 Dan Schilling
Today, look forward to having.
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You on the journey with us.
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God bless you.
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We'll see you next time.
