Pastor to Pastor
Transformative Faith: Everyday Commission and Global Missions
Ever wondered how a Facebook rivalry could lead to a deeper understanding of faith? Join us, Pastor Jason Watson and Pastor Seth Odom, as we recount our incredible experiences on recent missions trips, from my awe-inspiring voyage down the Amazon River in Peru to Jason's life-changing worship moment that resulted in an unplanned mission to India.
In this episode, we reveal the profound impact of stepping out in faith and the significance of the Great Commission in every believer's life. Hear about Pastor Jason and Seth's extraordinary experience raising over $8,000 in just two months with the help of supportive friends and fellow believers, illustrating God's wondrous provision. We also discuss True Christ Life, our missions ministry that is making strides in India, Peru, and beyond, as we prepare to train new team members for the work ahead. Our dialogue underscores the necessity of missions in strengthening one's faith and spreading the gospel.
We shift our focus to living missionally and emulating Christ-like behavior in our daily lives. From sharing simple acts of kindness to engaging in meaningful conversations about Jesus, we explore how every day presents opportunities for mission work. Reflecting on cultural receptiveness to the message of Christ, especially noting the openness of many Americans to prayer, we emphasize the importance of living a purpose-driven life. Inspired by the blessings from Numbers 6, we encourage you to take actionable steps towards embracing a missional lifestyle and sharing this journey with others to build a community centered around faith and mission.
Ever wondered how a Facebook rivalry could lead to a deeper understanding of faith? Join us, Pastor Jason Watson and Pastor Seth Odom, as we recount our incredible experiences on recent missions trips, from my awe-inspiring voyage down the Amazon River in Peru to Jason's life-changing worship moment that resulted in an unplanned mission to India.
In this episode, we reveal the profound impact of stepping out in faith and the significance of the Great Commission in every believer's life. Hear about Pastor Jason and Seth's extraordinary experience raising over $8,000 in just two months with the help of supportive friends and fellow believers, illustrating God's wondrous provision. We also discuss True Christ Life, our missions ministry that is making strides in India, Peru, and beyond, as we prepare to train new team members for the work ahead. Our dialogue underscores the necessity of missions in strengthening one's faith and spreading the gospel.
We shift our focus to living missionally and emulating Christ-like behavior in our daily lives. From sharing simple acts of kindness to engaging in meaningful conversations about Jesus, we explore how every day presents opportunities for mission work. Reflecting on cultural receptiveness to the message of Christ, especially noting the openness of many Americans to prayer, we emphasize the importance of living a purpose-driven life. Inspired by the blessings from Numbers 6, we encourage you to take actionable steps towards embracing a missional lifestyle and sharing this journey with others to build a community centered around faith and mission.
Hey, Pastor Seth. It's another episode of Pastor to Pastor. Let's go, baby. Hey, if you don't know, I'm Pastor Jason Watson and with me, as always, my co-partner in life, that's right. And spreading the gospel and doing the Pastor to Pastor. Pastor Seth Odom from Reliant Church, that's right.
Speaker 2:I was going to call you Judas for your post this week.
Speaker 1:Look, man, I don't know if I'm going to Don't be upset with me, because I'm ministering to your people all right, I love it bro. That was actually quite comical, seeing all the different posts. If you don't know, we're obviously great friends and so we posted on Facebook. Actually, I took a picture. We were out of the ball field.
Speaker 1:I come across some of your church members, right, right and it's kind of has always been this joke between us about talking to each other's members. So I took a picture with them and I sent it to pastor seth and I'm like hey, man, I just want to let you know. I met these awesome people out of the ball field and I was telling them about cross point and then we were laughing and joking and he's I said, man, I just really want to post that on facebook. He's like go ahead, we'll do a little facebook war, that's right.
Speaker 1:No, I'm coming for yours oh, I'm sure there's gonna be some posts, I know, I know they the people you took photos with are loyal.
Speaker 2:They're faithful and loyal okay, yeah, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 1:Now it's been funny to see all the different comments and likes and things, and you know, anyway, people are always interesting, that's that's all I'll say.
Speaker 2:Waiting to see what's next. I love it, right. Waiting to see. Never let them know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1:Maybe I'll just get a picture of you before we leave and tell them that I want somebody else to jesus, okay yeah, add me to your report, okay, there you go, I'll turn it into the conference. Oh man, yeah man. So how have things been over at Reliant Church?
Speaker 2:Everything's great, bro. If you don't know, we are looking forward in the next future to purchase a building. We got the offer in and by the time this gets recorded and posted, hopefully we're on the way to get in that thing.
Speaker 1:So we're excited.
Speaker 2:We've been praying for this about two years now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's been a long time coming. Been praying for this about two years now. It's been a long time coming. So we're super excited for you guys and certainly helping pray that, uh, god's will be done and it gets you in the right place. Like you, you would say not just a good fit, but a god fit. Yeah, that's right, but you're right where he needs you, right where he wants you and, uh, so you guys can keep growing and keep spreading the gospel.
Speaker 2:That's right. That's right, and I know your church is happy to have you back man.
Speaker 1:Look, yeah, they're happy to have me back and my voice is still. You can still kind of hear man. Sunday I preached and so, if you don't know, I went to Peru, went on a missions trip, and that's actually what our conversation is about. Today is missions. That's right, because it's so big, it's a huge part of your walk in faith and it has tremendously helped us grow in our faith in many different ways, but we'll get to that. But grow in our faith in many different ways, but we'll get to that. But we're going to be talking about missions today, but just got back from Peru.
Speaker 1:First time in Peru, first time in South America period. Typically, we go to India. We've been to India like six times now seven times. I guess you're going this fall, that's right. So we've been on several missions trips, not our first mission trip, but it was my first one to South America and so it was absolutely, absolutely amazing. I'll talk a little bit about it. But glad to be back, man, glad to be uh, I was like glad to be able to preach this past Sunday, to be back in the house, to be able to preach. God move mightily. My voice is still quite not right.
Speaker 2:You preach real good man my good that Pentecostal crew right, you ain't got to scream at them for them to hear you. Well, my mic wasn't working, so I've given them all I got that pentecostal shucking of the corn, the jelly in my donut. Yeah, shucking corn, I love it, man.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so my voice is still trying to recover a little bit. But, man, awesome service uh, this past sunday, yeah, um, but yeah, just got back from peru, an amazing trip. We were on a barge in the middle of the amazon river for we were on there for five days. They did a total like a 14-day trip, um, and so we gathered with them, we landed in lima, peru, which is, I think it's the capital, it's a coastal city. We landed there and then we traveled to, from lima to iquitos, which is, look at, is where they call the gateway to the Amazon.
Speaker 1:We got on the boat, we traveled downriver for five days and we landed in a place called Pucallpa, because what they do on this trip is they go from, you get on the boat and they go to the furthest point. The whole time you're traveling downriver, you're doing training, you're having worship services, you're having uh, preaching uh services, so you're having these different. They're preparing you, um, to be ready for when you, your feet touch the ground. And so we traveled those those five days, uh, on the water, uh, four and a half five days on the water. And then we landed in Pocopo one, uh Sunday morning and a last week for less last, and then we went out ministering for two days.
Speaker 1:We had a huge crusade that Tuesday night or that Monday night, and then they got back on the boat and Because on the way back they'll stop, stop after stop, and spread the gospel in different cities, different places until they get back home, but we couldn't stay the whole time, so we got off in Bukapa, we ministered for two days. When they left to go on the boat, we got to a hotel room, we got into a plane, we went back to Lima and then we flew back home. So it was an absolutely amazing time, though man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I heard that you were sweating all day long. There's two things that I heard that I think are hilarious.
Speaker 1:I like it's funny that you heard these things. Yeah, I heard them from your partner. You went with Go ahead.
Speaker 2:I heard that when you got out of the bed it was like Jason was still laying there from all the sweat. You had a sweat imprint. Listen, the Amazon is hot, that's all I can say hey look, he said he lost 20 pounds in 10 days.
Speaker 1:Man, hey, the new diet. What is that? The Amazon?
Speaker 2:I know I was trying to do the math. You know, if Jason goes for 60 days, that's 120 pounds he'll lose.
Speaker 1:Hey, I'll be trim and I'll be fit man.
Speaker 2:I hear you man. Look, I'm glad you guys had a fantastic time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, it was man. It was an amazing time. It was physically the most taxing trip I've ever taken, just simply trying to get adjusted because you're moving. I mean, you get there, you get in on a boat and then you're eating their food, you're drinking the water it's filtered water, but it's still the traveling, all the things that come with the traveling. I won't get into the specifics because it can be rough.
Speaker 1:Your body was adjusting. Your body got to do some adjusting and so it took us a few days to get adjusted. But yeah, the heat was pretty crazy On one day with the heat index, the hottest day we were there with heat index, it was 113. So we sweat the whole time. You go to bed sweating, and I literally had to sleep with a towel between my legs to keep my legs from sweating together Too much, too much, I'm telling you, man, it's hot.
Speaker 1:And then about 2, 3 in the morning it starts getting cool and you're like all right, this is nice before the sun to come back up to heat it up again.
Speaker 2:So it's a great time yeah well, listen, if you don't know this, pastor Jay and I we've been a part of mission work for the past 10 years or so with India. Then we had some delays because of COVID and stuff, but the year me and Taylor got married I don't know if you know this we went to Nicaragua.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you remember that you didn't go, but I went with Phillip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remember that Today we want to kind of just talk about what it looks like to be missional, what it looks like to be, why missions are important, and we want to share a little bit of experience from India and you know you've heard it from time to time if you've been following us of what God's done in India and how it's really changed our life. Why don't you talk a little bit, really, how the call to missions really, really came about?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was pretty I would say young in the faith, you know, because I was raised in church my whole life, well, my whole life, all the way until I was like 13, 14. Then I went away, man, and came back when I was about 30. And so I would consider myself still pretty young in the faith. But I just found myself one day just worshiping in the house and the presence of God was just so strong and I remember just crying out and I was like God, whatever it is that you want me to do, like whatever that looks like, just open the door and make it plain. And any doors that I shouldn't walk through, just close them. I'm yours, just show me what you want. And I was singing with Carrie Underwood how Great Thou.
Speaker 2:Art. Oh Lord, come on now.
Speaker 1:We were getting it done in the house, man.
Speaker 2:You hit every note. I was backing her up. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:That's, and I'm at Clint's day just telling the Lord, whatever it is he wanted, I was his. Yeah, and I got done worshiping and this is no lie, man. I sat down behind the computer and Brother Prakash pops up Prakash Kalapala. Yeah, he pops up, man, like literally within five minutes of me finishing my worship. I sit down.
Speaker 2:You know messenger.
Speaker 1:Hello brother. He says hey brother. I feel lit of the spirit. You're supposed to come to India and I was like, yeah, OK, well, all right. Well, Lord, if it's your will, you know, let it be done.
Speaker 2:And I remember reaching out to you and our other brother. Oh, I remember you reaching out because I said I got to hear from the Lord on that one. You go pray once. You go pray for a little while, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so me, you and then Chris Dillard, we all kind of got together and we started collaborating and talking and praying and everybody felt definitely to be a part of it. Man and look, I remember and I've shared this story a few times just this past few weeks recently of us raising over $8,000 in two months.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Us going out to lunch together and people just walking up and giving us checks. That's right, like literally. I'm telling you, if God gives you the vision, he will give you the provision to go with it. Amen, and that sounds cliche and a churchy thing to say, but it's so true. Everything that I've ever experienced has been when God's called me to do something, he's provided for it to happen. I would just submit it. I was like Lord, if that's your will, let it be. That's right and literally. We raised our money in no time. Yeah, because we know this to be true about God is be eating. I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1:People would come up and say, hey, I hear you're going to India. Here's a check for $200. Here's a check for $500. Like, people would just give us money to go. So that's how the missions ministry for us started. It's called True Christ Life and we if you're not familiar with it, you can find it on social media. Um, right now, the flag the indian flags, I think on the facebook as our cover photo. Um, but it's called true christ life. And, yeah, we, we're kind of. We've been doing india for many, many years and we just expanded into peru and we're going to all nations. Yeah, that's right to preach the gospel.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm excited to be taking the team in september that that's never been and it's going to be a beautiful experience, which is, um. What we're talking about today is actually some of the training that we're going to go through with them, too, to talk about, you know, the why we do it, the how we do it, what not to do, what to do and how to keep your heart pure and the reason why you're there and stuff, and so, uh, why do we think that mission is important? Let's talk, let's hit those couple things you want to go ahead. I think one first is that Christ gave us the Great Commission, and I think there may be this misleading thing where we feel like the Great Commission was just for leaders and apostles and disciples, but really it is for all followers of Christ. Go and make disciples, and it's go, not just go to where you're familiar with, but sometimes God calls you to places like india and to peru and to nicaragua and africa, all these different places. You just got to have a heart and and the faith to step into where god. That's why he said send me and I'll go right, and you know, if we can have that heart is a great commission, is not just places we're comfortable with, but the great commission is. You never know who needs to hear the voice that's speaking through you, your story and your life.
Speaker 2:Also, pastor Jason, we can testify to this, that it enhances your faith Absolutely. Missional work enhances your faith and we've experienced many things. We had this joke for a bit that we go to India. Every time we come back, we had a new gift. Yeah, like God showed himself in a brand new way. Like our first time going to India, we experienced a new gift. Yeah, like god showed himself in a brand new way. Like our first time going to india, we experienced the gift of healing a pastor jason. Uh, the gift of tongues flowed through him. Uh, we've seen, uh, miracles. We've seen salvations, um, deliverances. It's just amazing what you can experience when you just step out in faith and say god, use me at whatever capacity you've called me to in this season and with this place that you've told me to go to.
Speaker 2:It really enhances your faith greater than anything that just a church pew will do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely it is. For me. It's what I think really solidified my faith. Yeah, and that sounds crazy, but, man, when I was first coming back to the Lord, I mean, yeah, I felt, don't get me wrong, the greatest gift we'll ever receive is not a healing, it's a salvation.
Speaker 1:That's right, that is the absolute greatest miracle you will ever receive. But when you go to these other countries and when you go to these different places and we'll talk it's not just other places, but I think for me, when we went to the other places, it took us out of our comfort zone and we focused on ministry the whole time. There wasn't—now we're pastors, we're full-time pastors, so we understand all the inner workings and business side of running an organization of people. Because I'll say this and this is kind of a sidebar yeah, okay, great, you love a home church. That's awesome, that's amazing. But at some point, if your home church is blessed and favored and you guys are growing and reaching more people, you're going to run out of room, that's right.
Speaker 1:And then when you run out of room in your home, you're either going to go house to house or you're going to get a building where you guys can actually all fit. So that's where the concept of church actually comes from. But along with people comes assets, and comes bills, and comes these different things you end up having to manage so in some capacity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not a business, but there are some business aspects to come along with ministering to people. But anyway, we experienced this in the New Testament with Paul and him feeding widows and people selling things and bringing things in. So, yes, that is absolutely part of the structure of ministry and the structure of church. But we would go to these different places. You're not worried about anything. You're not worried about paying bills. You're not worried about reports at a conference. You're not worried about—your main focus is Jesus and telling people about Jesus. That's right and, bro, that gets me excited.
Speaker 2:I feel a little fire starting in the candle.
Speaker 1:Well, but your focus, man, your focus is telling people about Jesus and, literally, like you're talking to people that you could be talking to here in the States the exact same way, just because their language changes and the culture may change, doesn't change the gospel that you're preaching, it doesn't change what you're sharing, the words you're sharing. You're sharing Jesus with them, and so your focus is on them. And so we're operating in ministry. And, as you're operating in ministry, we would walk a village and you turn around. There's like two or three kids. You keep walking. You turn around, there's 20 kids. You keep walking.
Speaker 2:You turn around, there's 50, just keep in the whole village just following you around, yeah, watching you pray, because they're, I'm telling you they're astonished by seeing the hands and feet of jesus in the flesh, like just watching jesus minister to those who they've seen have problems their whole life, right, cancer and struggles.
Speaker 1:And things back problems and neck problems and knee problems and can't get out of bed. Hadn't got out of bed in the last few years or haven't had a baby. They've been trying for two and three years. Then come back the next year and hold that baby. Yeah, that's it, man.
Speaker 2:I remember, pastor Jason, when you were talking about when you go on these mission trips or even we're talking about other places in a little bit, we're talking about what it looks like here where you're at. I remember always thinking in my mind like I'm not going to waste the time that I'm here, like it's limited, you know you're going there for just a limited amount of time.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to waste my time like I do here, scrolling on social media and just trying to keep up with the Joneses online, like I'm going to spend and dedicate this time for what I'm here because I'm on the mission field. I dedicate this time for what I'm here because I'm on the mission field. I'm on a mission.
Speaker 2:I've been deployed and employed to do the work of the kingdom here, and when your mind gets so focused, man, the faith that you start to build up is the place where miracles start happening and people become to know the knowledge and the trueness of who. Christ is man. It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1:It's a beautiful thing to see, and that's what I was talking about. That's when you but that's what I was talking about that's when you start seeing those gifts, that's when you start seeing signs, when there's miracles, because they're following you as you are spreading the gospel, because you're so focused in what you're doing the lord is not competing with anything exactly in your life yeah, he's not competing, he's just flowing through you and and, but that's what I was saying.
Speaker 1:What solidified our. You know, in many ways my faith is just. We would live out what we read in the book of Acts. Yeah, it was beautiful, bro. I mean, they would literally come out in the street just for us to pray for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we would see signs and miracles and we would see people healed who were supposed to have surgery. And we'd get back and they'd say I went to the doctor and I didn't have to have surgery.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's right, cancer is gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean healing after healing and God move after God moving. People delivered, Demons cast out of people. I mean everything you read in the book of Acts happening. And it's not that it can't happen here. It's just that in our mind, for some reason, we separate Like if we would wake up every day saying the same thing that I don't have time, saying that I don't have time to scroll through facebook, I don't have time to if we would wake up every single day and treat where our feet are as a mission field.
Speaker 1:Signs, wonders and miracles would follow. And man, the church, the kingdom and I say the church as a whole, but the kingdom, man would explode and revival would happen. You would see you. You get 10 people on fire for Jesus and sold out and go out into the street and see what happens.
Speaker 2:And the beautiful thing too, pastor Jay, is the lengths that they would travel to come and experience the power of the sea In India. I know we're just talking about India right now, but their culture and they have millions of gods. And the first lady we prayed for says I've tried all these gods, I'm going to try Jesus. That's right. And Jesus healed her just like that. She went and told, from a congregation of 40 became like 250 in a matter of minutes because she went and shared what Christ had done that first night we got to.
Speaker 1:I remember the very first time we had a service. It was in a T intersection on a dirt road and they had a tiny building that held maybe 15 people. Section on a dirt road. Yep, and they had a tiny building that held maybe 15 people, but there were so many people we had to have it in the street, so that's why we had it on the road. It was a big old open field to our back. We were standing on rocks in the middle of the intersection.
Speaker 1:There was dirt all around toes throwing up gang signs cramping up I was cramping so bad, uh, and and, and they laid a tarp out for us to stand and people just sat all down the roadway and you could tell there were people in shadows, like listening to the message, even beyond where we were sitting at. And I remember learning, man, they can do things with a drum, a snare drum, man, we can't do here, I know right With their little fingers man they be worshiping.
Speaker 1:It's an amazing time, but I remember that, yeah, that first lady who came up for prayer man and praying for her, I think she had a neck problem and she had had it for a long time. And then, right after her, was a lady with a headache who had had a headache for like over a year because of a neck problem.
Speaker 1:And these two women are healed, and every time we would close our eyes to pray for someone first time I'd ever experienced the gifts of healings operating in that capacity but we would pray for them, they would be healed and they would run into the village and tell people, and every time we would close our eyes and open our eyes, praying for people, there'd be more people. It's like they just kept multiplying and kept multiplying and so what turned into what would normally be like a couple-hour service turned into a long service.
Speaker 2:We it would normally be like a couple-hour service turned into a long service.
Speaker 1:We were tired, boss man, my feet, yeah, were throwing up gang signs on them rocks.
Speaker 2:They was cramping up and I'm, ah man.
Speaker 1:We felt like that fan in your room when it turned off.
Speaker 2:I was tired, boss, I was tired boss, but you know what, pastor Dave, let's talk really quickly about some misconceptions on the mission work and mission field and things, and I think one big one is that mission work is always overseas.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Now there are missions in the United States that you can go be a part of and you can find these people. Maybe, if you're in a denomination, there's probably a missions organization within your denomination.
Speaker 2:I know quite a bit of people go down to Atlanta and to New Orleans and these places where people's homes and different things, I mean there's so many opportunities.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's so many opportunities. We man, we were kind of a I don't know what the word is we were pretty rare. I mean, it was only God-driven that we started True Christ Life. Yeah, that's right. And we were connected with the right people to go overseas, because I've heard some horror stories of people getting connected excuse me with the wrong people and they end up in some pretty shady scenarios. Now, I thought initially that we were. I'll be honest with you. I remember getting off the airplane and getting into the car and then us stopping for fruit at at 3, 30 in the morning on side the road and it dark and I told you opening the truck
Speaker 1:I said I hope you can run buddy trust me, I'll run faster than you, big boy okay, I'll get, I might get a few of them in the headlock, but you know you're gonna get to go get us some help and uh. But no, just just just just teasing, but no, we were pretty concerned, I mean just because it was a new environment, new place, place. I was a police officer so of course I'm on alert all the time anyway. But yeah, I would say what we did was very rare for us to be able to connect with the right people at the right time. It was definitely a divine appointment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Not everybody's like that. You definitely need to be, I think, seeking God and asking him. You know where do you want me to go, when do you want me to serve? But there are the local missions within the US, there's missions probably within your city. There's missions overseas. But I think probably the most important thing is realizing your mission field is right where your feet are in the moment Now.
Speaker 1:it's amazing to be able to go overseas and see other cultures and it's amazing to wake up and not think about anything but telling people about jesus. But truth of the matter is, man, you could do this anywhere yeah, yeah, and you look at being missional.
Speaker 2:missional means to be going right and we are to be the hands and feet of jesus. Uh, we're started a new series, called in the flesh, on how we can be jesus here on earth, in the flesh, and be in the hands and feet of jesus serving people. The mission field is wherever your feet tread. You I mean you, you nailed it it's wherever you go. I'm on the ball field, in the office, at recreational sport, all types of places in the classroom, wherever.
Speaker 2:When your mind is missional, you look at every opportunity as an opportunity to share the gospel with someone. I mean, realistically, pastor Jay, if we took a poll of how much time we spend at the ball field, we spend at work, all these different places that we spend, and we think, well, I don't have time. You said it at the very beginning, I don't have time to do this. I don't have time to go here and go share the gospel. Well, here's the beautiful thing is God's not asking you to change your schedule or add anything to your already full calendar. All he's asking you to do is be intentional with the time you have. Right, if you're in the classroom, if you're already on the ball field, look for opportunities that God has already created, without adding anything else to it, for you to share the gospel. That's what it is being missional is going where you go and sharing the gospel.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Just earlier today, as an example, I went to go today's Wednesday. I'm typically off on Wednesdays, so I went with the boys to go have a brunch right Caleb's out of school, and so it was just a great opportunity for us to go eat and hang out together. And so I reached across to the counter and I was talking with this lady. I said hey, you know, how are you doing today? She says I'm doing okay, thanks for asking. I said what can I pray for you? Well, how can I pray for you? And she was like uh, you just tell her she's trying to think like I don't know what.
Speaker 1:Could he pray for me for, you know? And then she says I don't know anything particular. I said, great, well, let me hold your hand. I said, by the way, I'm pastor Jason, may I hold your hand and pray for you? And she said, absolutely, put her hand in my hand. We just prayed. My kids were sitting there beside me watching. Right, and this is the most important thing is that our kids are going to emulate what they see. That's right. And so what are you emulating to your children? Anyway, sidebar, but I prayed for the lady. We had a great conversation afterward. And then we walk out, and it was a great conversation with my kids afterward, like you know, hey, do you think you could do this? Oh no, no, no, I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1:I'm like yeah, you could. It's just a matter of realizing, man, we have a cure inside of us, a cure for sin, a cure for eternal death and a cure for hell. And so, look, if they reject you understand this they're not rejecting you, they're rejecting jesus. Yeah, they have to decide what they want to do with jesus in their life. But we do have a commission, and it's not just upon pastors, it's upon all of us.
Speaker 2:That's right that we go everywhere and that we just spread the gospel and goodness but you know as a day when you think about meals, we eat what 21 on average a week yeah, yep, some of us a lot more yeah some of us snack a lot you.
Speaker 2:But let's just look at it in this perspective. You know some people think of this conversation as very overwhelming and hard to do, but realistically it's just like I said, being intentional. Just imagine if you took one to three of those 21 meals. And you took and just intentionally spin it with somebody who needed to know about Jesus.
Speaker 1:And take a church of 100 people.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then one to three meals a week.
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, Can you imagine the influx of people coming to Christ weekly? That's it. To know who he is. I mean, that's what we're here for. That's it. We're not here to fill our calendar with pleasantries. Our goal is to share the gospel. Go and make disciples, go, share the good news of jesus. I don't know, but it's good enough for me, yeah, to want to share absolutely.
Speaker 2:God's been good enough to me that I want to give it to somebody else yeah and so when we think about mission, we have to change the way we view our missions as being. It's an everyday life opportunity. It's not about raising money and having to go overseas and there's places for that but there's opportunities each and every day.
Speaker 1:Just open up your eyes and be very intentional with your time, and I think by doing that, you're going to see God move in ways you've never seen Him move before yeah amen. That's definitely what we experienced. We saw God move in ways we never experienced Him before, but we were doing something we'd never done before.
Speaker 2:Stepping out on faith, bro, I'm telling you, that's it.
Speaker 1:It's not my gospel, it's His, and I'm just sharing it with them.
Speaker 2:That's why Peter did the supernatural, because he stepped out from where he was comfortable, stepped out in faith and was the only one, other than Jesus, to ever walk on water. What is God trying to get you to? Step out in faith and do for the kingdom, so that you can be the difference in people's lives.
Speaker 1:Maybe you don't go into a restaurant and stand on a table and preach, but maybe it's a conversation with a waitress. Hey, how can I pray for you today?
Speaker 2:Hey, you're going to talk to people anyway. Why don't you just change the content? Come on somebody I mean it's simple on somebody. I mean it's simple, that's it. It's not a hard thing, that's right. So I want to encourage you to live missionally, be going Be the hands and the feet of Jesus. It's a lot easier than you think. Don't be intimidated. It's a simple conversation. Hey, do you know Christ? Can I pray for you? Just as simple as a prayer is planting a seed that you may not. Somebody may come and water that thing, that's right. Somebody may come and harvest that thing, but there's nothing to harvest if we don't ever plant seeds. That's it.
Speaker 1:And I can't tell you, man, in Peru and what's interesting, as we get ready to close here, what's interesting is the soil, and I talk about people's hearts being. The soil is different where you go, and in Peru, where we went in Peru not all of Peru is like this, I was told by several people, but in Pacaipa, where we were in Peru, they've had a lot of culturally difficult things and they were about 50-50. Half of them would tell you no, I'm good, have a good time. They wouldn't even let you pray for them. And the other half were like sure.
Speaker 1:I can't tell you how many people were warned, the ones who said sure, how many people were willing to Jesus? Yeah, just by having a conversation with them and asking them how can we pray for you? Yeah, but I can tell you this I've done it in India, I've done it in Peru, I've done it in America, done it online in several places. But the people's hearts around where we are in America are looking for something I have yet to have. I've probably, out of a hundred people, maybe had four or five. Just tell me no you can't pray for me.
Speaker 1:That's right. What kind of return rate is that?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Where, out of a hundred people, four or five tell you no, yeah, I'll make that investment Absolutely, and you figure out of the hundred people, 95 you're planting seeds in or you're watering at some point, man come on.
Speaker 1:What a perspective. Yeah, yeah, what's going to happen, you know, as people water, as more people plant, what's going to happen as the kingdom fruit starts growing. Yeah, we've got to quit looking for everything. We've got to quit looking for big bangs to happen and look for the small miracles. That's right, the small opportunities to plant miracles where miracles end up happening. That's right, because we don't believe in the big bang.
Speaker 2:That's right. Listen, I want to say this I'm so proud of you and I know your Hispanic friends will be super proud of you for pronouncing these names of these cities.
Speaker 1:Bro, listen to me when I tell you this. I still don't know more Spanish than I knew when.
Speaker 2:I was.
Speaker 1:Oh man, I'll tell you what, though. I've got more Spanish friends on Facebook. Now, though, look at you, man, look at you. Yeah, we're working the gospel. Hey, there you go.
Speaker 2:Network band that's right, listen, are you good Pastor? I'm good sir. All right, I'm going to bless you and then we'll get you out of here. This is out of Numbers. Numbers. Chapter 6 says May the Lord bless you and protect you. May the Lord smile on you and be gracious to you. May the Lord show you his favor and give checking out this podcast share with somebody, and if we can encourage you to do one thing is start living a life that is missional.
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