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"Understanding Enneagram Type Sixes: Motivations, Strengths and Relationship Advice"
Damon and Kelly dive into the Enneagram type Six, The Loyalist, in this insightful episode. Learn how Sixes are driven by security, support, and belonging. Discover their strengths as troubleshooters, team players, and protectors. Hear how many Sixes serve in helping professions like teaching, law enforcement, and emergency response. Kelly shares tips for supporting Sixes by building trust, listening to their concerns, and encouraging measured risks. Damon adds how Sixes need reassurance and emotional connection. Tune in as Kelly and Damon analyze how Sixes seek certainty in unstable times and how to bring out their courage. Don't miss next week's show when a special guest Six joins to share their Enneagram journey. Whether you're a Six or know one, this episode will help you nurture healthy relationships.
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Damon and Kelly dive into the Enneagram type Six, The Loyalist, in this insightful episode. Learn how Sixes are driven by security, support, and belonging. Discover their strengths as troubleshooters, team players, and protectors. Hear how many Sixes serve in helping professions like teaching, law enforcement, and emergency response. Kelly shares tips for supporting Sixes by building trust, listening to their concerns, and encouraging measured risks. Damon adds how Sixes need reassurance and emotional connection. Tune in as Kelly and Damon analyze how Sixes seek certainty in unstable times and how to bring out their courage. Don't miss next week's show when a special guest Six joins to share their Enneagram journey. Whether you're a Six or know one, this episode will help you nurture healthy relationships.
#enneagram #personalitytypes #sixes #relationships #podcast
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https://www.instagram.com/faithandcommunity/
Welcome to Enneagram U with Damon and Kelly, where we explore the mysteries of human personality and help you learn more about you, whether you're a skeptic or an enthusiast, together we'll take you on a journey of self-discovery using the ancient wisdom of the Enneagram. This is Enneagram U. Hey, everyone, welcome to Enneagram U. My name is Damon, I'm here with my friend Kelly, and we were just talking.
Speaker 2:The party has started.
Speaker 1:The pre-party. Yeah, we were just talking about Hogan's Heroes and I'm like do you know how old that is? How did we even I know nothing. I know nothing. We were like what. When I say I know nothing, what is that from? And we're like Hogan's Heroes, I think I was a little kid.
Speaker 2:So much of that show went way over my head. I just knew that they were able to get by with a lot of stuff even though they were prisoners of war. They made prisoners of war look like having fun.
Speaker 1:It really did. Yeah, it was based on some movies. I think there was a movie Stalag 13. Yes, okay, old old, maybe even black and white.
Speaker 2:Yeah, stop.
Speaker 1:Stop talking, Damon.
Speaker 2:That's not what this is about.
Speaker 1:We can chase the rabbits. It's fun and that's what we've been doing. Pre show here yes, and so how are you feeling today? I'll let you start.
Speaker 2:I'll start. Actually, I am feeling a bit concerned and ready to get some biopsy results. So, yeah, I've had this condition with my mouth basically since last fall and almost two weeks ago had a biopsy on my gums and they said I should hear within a week or two.
Speaker 1:And it's two, it's getting to two and I haven't heard yet. That's probably a good thing. Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping that it's not like or we've had to send this off to like some specialty lab. You know, it is one of those things where faith is now in process. Yes, it is, it's hard, it is hard, it is hard.
Speaker 2:But you know, recently at Woodcrest, the last few sermons I've done have been about peace. We've been going through the gospel of John and John 16, where Jesus said you know, I'm telling these things so in me, you know I'm telling these things so in me, you will have peace, you know, because he's overcome the world. And then I did a message on John 20 and where he, you know, after the resurrection, came back and said peace, be with you and that really our peace has to be in God. And yet we want so much for that peace to come, like I want the peace to come and just knowing everything's good and I do feel a peace.
Speaker 1:I'm just so ready to get that call so and so you kind of just named your truth right there. Yes, yes, you know you feeling anxious, is that the word you use? Well?
Speaker 2:I would say anxious is part of that too, so concerned um just ready to find out?
Speaker 1:yeah, just anxious about what those results are going to be your last message was on listening and you could tell that I didn't even listen to that. I was was listening, yes, but I am concerned with you. Yeah. And how was that biopsy?
Speaker 2:It was not fun? Ooh, because you were saying your gums.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's kind of sensitive stuff.
Speaker 2:And I've got a really great periodontist and he kind of walked me through just like okay, we're going to numb your mouth, like even you overthink, like swallowing and I don't know, and I think I think my heart rate was like one 20.
Speaker 1:Well, that's that's not in the procedure, I mean that's okay, I can feel it pounding Like like am I going to have a panic attack?
Speaker 2:That's what I wonder. I'm like, if this goes on much longer, I may have a full blown panic attack but no it, yeah, it was. Uh, I think afterwards my husband was waiting in the lobby and I came out and, um, he was like, yeah, you looked kind of white and I said, well, I just feel like it was. Yeah, it brought up a lot of anxiety.
Speaker 2:I just, uh, didn't hurt so much, um, but yeah, then just took that day off just to let that heal up and well, we will pray and think about you as you wait your results and hope so much for the best. I will hear this week. You will hear yeah, I think so. Yeah, anyway, I'll keep you posted. Wow, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I complain about my shoulder. Well, I mean we have our own load. You know, here's why we're so old, because we're talking about Hogan's Heroes and all our aches and pains yes, all you see them quite often.
Speaker 2:You appreciate your medical professionals because they're like friends and family. They're expensive, friends and family. Yes, anyway, yeah, okay, how are you feeling?
Speaker 1:I feel good. I feel good. I recently, at one of my jobs, backed off on the music part of it, which I don't know if we've even said that on this show or not. I can't remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Some people know that listen and others don't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we talk about so many crazy things, but in one of my jobs I do some technical stuff and also some music stuff and is at the church and I let go of that probably a month ago.
Speaker 2:And so.
Speaker 1:But there's been a transition period where I kind of have to help, and I'm still kind of helping with some of that, but not a lot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so I feel good. There's some relief there, um, because you know I do work full-time at VU all the time, right, 80 hours a week, I think, 44, something like that. Just just for all the all of of your, all of the executives listening right now it's right, gotta be close to 45, right.
Speaker 2:That's a good balance, though at least you're not 80.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, because if I said 80, I know they call me on that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd be like okay, damon, that's not healthy, I know I had to back off anyway.
Speaker 1:So it was like you had two full-time jobs it felt like that a little bit and it feels more like now a part-time job and a full-time job, but I'm at that season in life where I don't have little kids and et cetera. So I have more time, and what would I do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, mow the grass. I would mow the grass and sit on the couch and watch dishes and dishes.
Speaker 1:I'm already doing that, you know my wife doing those now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have to, because my wife is not at home right now.
Speaker 1:She was a lot of noise.
Speaker 2:Yes, how many excursions is this so far this year? I don't know. I mean, I'm not one to talk three yeah, no kidding france.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what is with what, it is with you two, but I'm still here and now she's well, someone's got to hold down the fort yeah, you and my husband, you know. Thank you both, yeah and we do and we party when you're gone. Anyway, yes, um, she is on a well-deserved vacation and break with her sisters and some friends and having fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah, here's how I know they're having fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't heard from her.
Speaker 2:And she's begun now at two weeks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean two or three.
Speaker 2:I don't know those dishes are piling up high.
Speaker 1:Two words, paper plates. Thank you, that will be helpful. That's where we're at at this point.
Speaker 2:Any birthday. Thank you, that will. That will be helpful. That's where we're at at this point. Any birthday gift ideas? Just get damon disposable dishes, right?
Speaker 1:no kidding, yeah, no kidding, um yeah, so I feel good about all that good about feels relieving to have a little bit more breathing room and some of that actually in that role it it is like you know you have to produce some things, you know right music, etc. But it's also any kind of an emotional um mental thing too, because you're always planning for the next thing. When you do church work, folks, Sunday's always coming.
Speaker 1:And so there's kind of that, you know so and it still is for me, but not quite at the level uh at that point. So I'm sure something else would come up. But right now I'm taking a breather.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's good, yeah, so I feel good about that.
Speaker 2:Well, boundaries are good and just knowing like, okay, what are some things that can be my options with you know different things that I do with work and my time.
Speaker 1:Yep, absolutely. Yeah, good, we'll see, we'll see. But today we are going to move into a new number.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's June, and so we're going to be talking about the six.
Speaker 1:You know, in May there were five weeks. In May there were, and we did the number five yes, and it's May. It was the fifth month and I finally realized all that it's okay, because it only took half the year. I know I'm like Kelly has a plan here.
Speaker 2:I guess I didn't communicate that.
Speaker 1:I don't know no.
Speaker 2:I just don't listen. Well, okay, so maybe you need to listen to the sermon from yesterday again even though you heard it.
Speaker 1:I was right there, yes, but I was running a camera, yes, Well, listening is not easy.
Speaker 2:I think you know a couple of the statistics that I use were really convicting that you know 50%, or right after we immediately hear someone talk, we only remember 50% of what they said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would totally agree.
Speaker 2:Even less if we aren't a fan of what the subject is or if we don't like them. So only 50% and then an hour later, 20%. Yeah, I do like you, so that could be the test. Like this is why you don't, this is why you remember what 1% even the topic like, because maybe you're not a fan of the topic.
Speaker 1:And I don't know, dropped to 50. Yeah, I mean that could be it.
Speaker 2:Take or leave the speaker.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, I've dug myself a hole that will never come out of.
Speaker 2:On this month, yes, this month, it's six, so we'll look at the loyal person, the six, and you know, just as a reminder, the loyal person. They are motivated for safety and security, okay, and they are very faithful friends. They're probably our friends that we've had for a long time. They're the ones that are gonna be connecting with us, reaching out to us. They can be loyal and faithful to so many things. So these might be the people that have been loyal and faithful to the jobs that they've been in. Like I think about, I would say probably my mom is a six, and so she worked for the state of Missouri. From the time she worked once my sister and I were in school until she retired, and so you know, and I think so often sixes might stay in jobs that they don't necessarily care about or maybe care for, but they have to stay because that's what you do, that's loyal and faithful.
Speaker 1:I've heard that sixes are often school teachers.
Speaker 2:Okay, and I don't know. I just read that somewhere. Can you believe?
Speaker 1:I read yes, yeah, well, and they're school teachers.
Speaker 2:They're oftentimes, too, those people that are working hard to keep us safe. So policemen, firefighters I think RVU safety and security team probably many of them are made up of sixes.
Speaker 1:Probably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they just think through the grid. Since they're motivated for safety and security, what is going to keep me and others safe?
Speaker 1:And we've said this many times, but are there more sixes than any other kind of number? According?
Speaker 2:to Richard Rohr. Look at me, drop that name. Look at you, Well yes, he says that the majority was it 60%.
Speaker 1:Well in the United States, In the United.
Speaker 2:States could be sixes. But again, I think we have to look at that in terms of even some of our history, like you think of after World War II, this whole promotion on, you know, just even different opportunities for people. That's when the scouts really came into being. So you think about scouts, boy Scouts, girl Scouts, now just scouts. But you know their motto is to be prepared, and that would be the motto of the six to be prepared for anything. And so they really help us to be prepared, like here's what the plan is, in case you know, there's a storm, a fire, a shooting.
Speaker 1:I mean they just are very, very loyal and looking through that grid, Okay, and in your teachings around Veterans United have you found a lot of sixes in? The because we said usually on certain teams there's usually one, five, maybe a four if they're lucky, but there's, they're just sixes coming out of our ears.
Speaker 2:Well, and I don't know that there's so many on teams. I mean, there definitely are sixes on teams, but I would say maybe two or three on a team. A lot of times we see ones, threes, nines. Those are probably the predominant twos, the predominant numbers. So I think, with sixes though, what I share a lot with our employees is that probably on the other side of the call, veterans are probably going to have some connection to a six.
Speaker 1:And so knowing that that's who we're probably serving.
Speaker 2:As we put, we like to say, heroes into homes. Kelly, that's a value add to this company.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think so. Yeah, if you know that that says a lot. I mean that gives you some just leveraging communication.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, it helps us to really reach the person that we're working with, because, you know, one of the challenges then for the six, their besetting struggle is fear, and so being able to recognize that and know that, you know, even as we look at being in relationships with people, that's going to be a predominant part of our relationship with sixes is that knowing that sixes are going to have that struggle with fear.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay. So now I have to kind of just ask a question.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:If people that were in service mostly could be sixes. Right, they struggle with fear Because they're the most courageous people that we know, right? Okay, you can talk to that a little bit, speak to that a little bit, well, and so I think yes, so there are two sides of the six.
Speaker 2:So, and versus all the other numbers, the six really have two different counterparts. So one would be the phobic six. So the phobic six tends to run when they're afraid, and so the phobic six will attach to a strong entity, a strong person, a strong system, in order to feel safe. Then we have the counterphobic six and the counterphobic six. They are working to make the world a safer place, so they actually run into what is scaring them to try to conquer that fear or to make the world a safer place. And so I would say, those that have gone into the military, they could be more of that phobic six, and so they're attaching to a strong entity. So they're attaching with or being a part of, you know, one of the branches of the service, because they're going to help to make the world a safer place, but they're going to do so, you know, as a part of a team.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's the first one you talked about yes, and then the second one are the people that, just like they, just run toward.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they just, and that would probably be and I could see both of them, but probably those that would be the firefighters. So they're going to run into whatever they're fearing. I mean you think about even 9-11.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It takes a special person to be willing to run into the buildings, as they just had planes fly through.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:The rest of us would probably be just like running away. You know, our heroes are the ones that run into those, and they're the sixes.
Speaker 1:How helpful is that. That is really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so you know where that is the strength for them too, for those of us that are in relationship with them. We want to be able just to understand that about them, because you know so them. We want to be able just to understand that about them Because so often, if we are in a relationship with a six, they're going to be looking at things much differently than we are. They're going to be looking at again, let's say, if we're working with a six, they're going to be looking at how do we keep the people that we're working for, the people that we're working with, safe? So they're going to be thinking about worst case scenarios. They're going to be thinking about plans for all kinds of different things.
Speaker 1:Right that we aren't Now here in our studio area in the underground area they do active shooter training. Yes, so our team from VU will come in and do that, and if those guys are sixes, that totally makes sense to me.
Speaker 1:They scare the bejeebies out of everybody, by the way, and then they just as an aside here, then they pull out the Nerf guns and then they do like boom boom, boom, boom, boom and yeah, and everybody just has to duck and run and and use all the things they just taught them, like here's what, here's where you should go and what you should do when this happens, and they, they, they do it in such a quick manner and I think you should just hear, I'm in my office and you should just hear the chairs.
Speaker 1:just to hit the ground, Everybody's going everywhere and it's quite exciting and scary and all of that, but it's well, you know much needed.
Speaker 2:Right and I can see where that would be really life-giving for a six because they have helped now to make a plan and preparation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's serious stuff. I mean, you know I'm laughing along with it, but it is. It's super serious. Well, again.
Speaker 2:You just think like it just feels needed and necessary, but also like crazy to take a day.
Speaker 1:It's a bit surreal.
Speaker 2:Yes, and to have you know, have experiences where you're shot with a Nerf gun or like yeah, just having to think through like, okay, so what is my plan if somebody comes in with a gun?
Speaker 1:And the rest of us.
Speaker 2:Don't think about that. We don't want to think about that.
Speaker 1:Right, right. And so I have tennis balls and Nerf balls all over my office that have just lodged in different places.
Speaker 2:Or your own bombs to throw if they get too close to your office.
Speaker 1:I have a collection. I have a collection.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but these would be our sixes. They just help us to plan and prepare, and so you know what we want to help sixes as we think about them. You know, just thinking through worst case scenarios is you know that that is helpful if, like, we're preparing in our jobs for, like, an active shooter, but for a six, those worst case scenarios don't stop. And so even being able to give them a space where they can process some of their fears, you know, to be able to process, and just for their hearts to recognize that they're not actually going through an active shooter coming in, you know, or they're not going through, whatever the worst case scenario would be with their family as well, and so we can really help them to be able to process their fears.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's definitely some strengths there, but there's also kind of a negative side to that.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:They have to watch out for, and then we have to be aware of.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because for them. I've heard it said that sixes need to go to worst case scenario make plans so then they can come back to what reality is worst case scenario make plans, so then they can come back to like what reality is. But for some sixes that can just get especially if they're in more of that average or unhealthy they can go to worst case scenario and actually live there you know, because it's just like but this could happen, but this could happen, but this could happen.
Speaker 1:That feels paralyzing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, and that's where fear can be paralyzing for sure, okay, yeah, yeah. The other thing I would say about the six so if we're thinking about sixes, especially like the phobic six that tends to attach to a strong entity or a system or even a company, that sometimes those phobic sixes can then lose trust in themselves and then that can create more of a codependency with a person or with a place or with a system. And so it's really healthy for a six to be able to be encouraged to really trust themselves, that they can be courageous in their own thoughts, their own perspectives. Again, the six is in the head triad and so if we can encourage them to move into trusting their gut more, like we were talking with the five being that holistic person, like, okay, what is my gut saying, what is my heart saying, not just my head, because they're in the center part of the head triad, so they've got both wings are in the head too, so they can really get stuck paralyzed in the head too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so one of the things we would want to say to the six is to learn to trust yourself, and not just trusting yourself by what you're thinking, but, like, think back and look at like, whatever your experience has been where you have trusted yourself and it's worked out, you know or exercising that trust by stepping in and doing something. So not just thinking about it, but through exercising it and through your experiences as well, yeah, okay as well, yeah, so interesting.
Speaker 1:Just again an aside a military person you know. They go into one of the branches and attach to that branch of you know, military, and someone is kind of telling them what to do and where to go and they have all these rules, and it's yes, sir, and they go forward and they don't question.
Speaker 1:That really does lean into, maybe not always trusting themselves, because they're a part of the system that does it for them, right, right, and they could lose that. They could lose that self-worth. Yes, I don't know, I'm guessing. Maybe I don't know, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2:Yes, even some of the after programs for the military, once they get out of the military, because they've been so accustomed to being in that routine, really allowing an entity that they trust, like our government and our military, to guide and direct them. Then to be able to step away from that and now to be able to trust themselves and having to kind of rebuild that that bridge now into okay, this is my, you know my call, you know on what I do with my life and those kinds of things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and even when someone is directing you and telling you what to do, there's some self-trust where you actually have to execute what's being asked. Yes, for sure. So they have that. They do. Sixes have that. Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know, going into the military or even going into even. You know some of the helping professions like firefighters, policemen those kind of things.
Speaker 2:You know they have their routine, even though you know, we know, that not everything is routine. You know a policeman's not going to know how many call outs he or she's going to get, or you know those kind of things, but they're just, you know, in this routine of OK, this is what we do, this is the plan that we follow. This is the protocol, which I think they find really life-giving too. Wow.
Speaker 1:Good stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So I'd say another thing for the six that we would want to say to them is even though you desire safety and security, you can't always be secure, but you can deal with your feelings of fear. And so for them, I think, recognizing you, know cause so much of what they're trying to do is to try to feel safe and secure, but knowing that okay you can only do so much, but you can deal with your, your feelings about that.
Speaker 2:So that's important too, yeah, and you know, as we say to all the numbers, to process your feelings and to live in the truth. So you know that relationship with self.
Speaker 2:But then you know, for those of us that are in a relationship with a six, you know a few things that we want to recognize besides just the fact that we want to be a listening ear for them when they are experiencing fear and insecurity, is that trust is a really, really big deal with a six, and so if you break trust with the six, it's going to be a journey to build that back.
Speaker 2:It can happen but that can be a real challenge. And so for them, let's say, if you're new in a relationship with a six, they're going to ask a lot of questions in just building up that trust. One of the labels for the six has been called the responsible questioner, and so it's just them being able to ask questions so they can build up trust. And so I would say, if you're new in a relationship, don't be surprised if a six is going to just ask you a lot of questions. Also, if you've been in a relationship with a six and trust has been broken, there's probably going to be a lot of questions to try to build that trust again.
Speaker 1:Still with the questions, yes, still with the questions.
Speaker 2:So because sixes do need that reassurance. And then also it's not just reassurance from what you say to them I mean, verbal reassurance is helpful but also what they're going to observe.
Speaker 1:You know again, Hence the amount of time.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, because you know trust. I've heard it said it takes time and consistency and so a six is really going to engage in that Like they're going to want to see over time. And so, again, if you've broken trust with a six, they're not going to be immediately like oh okay, I trust you again. You know, where maybe we, as the gut triad, we're going to almost have this radar of, like this BS radar.
Speaker 1:So if someone has broken our trust and we're like and they're like.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know I'm broken, please forgive me. We're going to sense like okay they really are broken and we can move forward.
Speaker 1:That's not real, yeah, or?
Speaker 2:no, it's not.
Speaker 1:And so then we're like we cut them out of our lives. So if you're going to break trust with the six, do it when you're really young, so you have time to break. If you're old, like me, there's no time.
Speaker 2:It's over. And then also, they really have a deep appreciation for people who are genuine and authentic, and I know that's for the majority of people too. But again, just knowing that you can be genuine and authentic with a six, they don't want you to put on a mask. They want you to be who you are, because they're going to watch and make sure that you are who you say you are. And if you're not, they're probably not going to continue. Maybe that friendship with you Fair, that's fair.
Speaker 1:And not going to continue, maybe, that friendship with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fair, that's fair. And also, you know we talked about sixes going to worst case scenario. So for the rest of us we're like, oh, I don't want to think about active shooter trading. But you know, for them, actually thinking through that planning is comforting to them.
Speaker 1:Right, I see that. Yeah, I mean that gives them security and safety.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, I think I shared maybe once about the office manager we had that just was telling us like we don't have a protocol for if there's a tornado, or we don't have a protocol if there's a fire, or what do we do if there is an active shooter? And I remember just thinking what is wrong with this person, like why are they thinking through that? Well now I know you know she was a six and just it was comforting to her. Yeah, just OK, we've them to trust themselves more and to also take measured risk. So you know any way that we can encourage them, like maybe if they're looking at some different options, to help kind of talk through that with them being a good listener again and just not having to fix it for them. But to, you know, encourage them like, hey, look at what you've done in the past and you know, I think this, you know, is a measured risk. It's not going to be one of those things like, oh, let's do something just off the wall, sixes aren't going to do that but to let them know that they can trust themselves, they can trust their ideas. So that would be another thing.
Speaker 2:And then also I would say that in close relationships, especially so these would be like significant others or like really really close friends is to know that sixes really need emotional attentiveness, and so, again, they're in the head triad.
Speaker 2:But to be able to help them to connect to what they're feeling and to really just maybe ask them some of those helpful questions like you know, how are you feeling about this, or how did you feel? Or have there been other times you felt like this Just helps them to connect a little bit more deeply because that is really life-giving for them. But then also to be able to really bridge that gap and to get to that emotional depth through conversation. And so you know, I think about some friends, that I know one friend in particular that I'm thinking of, who's a six, and you know just the fact that you know she needs that kind of close relationship with others where she can really engage in conversation. Now, for those people that may be more introverted, that can be difficult for having that depth of conversation, but being able just to know that, to say that you don't have to be the only person, but they're probably gonna go deep with their closest people so that they can have that emotional attentiveness and that conversation with people.
Speaker 1:It seems like a bit of a journey because with a six you're telling me trust is super important. It's important to all of us but for them much more so, and then wanting to have those deep conversations. So the trust has got to probably come first, which is going to take some time. And then so that relationship evidently has progressed quite far for that to happen.
Speaker 2:Yes, that's right. Well, and you know with that too, because sixes are loyal people, once you have gained their trust, they're probably going to be that friend for life. But the other thing we would want to say to that too, is that we may have to help sixes because, let's say, early on, maybe when they've been more unhealthy sixes or average sixes, they may have friendships that aren't healthy for them, but they're loyal. This is where you get that loyal to a fault, and so you know being able even to again have them process boundaries maybe with some of these friendships who you know people that aren't healthy for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then the last thing that I would say, you know, as far as our relationships with the six, is again, because they can get so caught up in overthinking that if they could do something to like, just step into action. So it may be, you know, let's say, if we work with the six, you know it may be saying, hey, can we go out and just do a walking meeting where we can talk through this?
Speaker 2:So where it's not just like being paralyzed in that fear. You know so. Doing something active, talking about your fears, doing something in the body, that can be really helpful for the six too.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So that's yeah, shoo-wee. That was really good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no kidding, I thought it might just be a little dry. That's the six, holy cow.
Speaker 2:That was a lot yeah that's exactly right.
Speaker 1:I wasn't sure what was happening with the six, but man, that's a lot of great stuff. So, yeah, you're probably going to have to slow this podcast way down or rewind it.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:To hear all that again. I know that I probably should because I wasn't listening.
Speaker 2:Well, it's helpful and you know recognizing. You know for you, damon, as the nine, your arrows go to the six and to the three, so you may find yourself resonating with some of this.
Speaker 1:I, the nine, your arrows go to the six and to the three. So you may find yourself resonating with some of this. I refuse to comment on that right now until I listen to the podcast again. But yeah, yeah, I did, I did as you were talking. I was thinking, thinking deeply about. Yeah, I have some of those six tendencies for sure, Probably both positive and negative.
Speaker 2:Well, and that's, I think, how the arrows tend to go you know, we can engage both the strength and the challenge for those numbers Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, thanks, kelly, that was great, and join us next week as we talk about six again.
Speaker 2:Is it a special guest next week? Next week will be the special guest.
Speaker 1:Oh man. Can't wait to see who that is because I don't know who that is right now. The surprise guest All right. Well, tune in next time and we will talk to a six in person talk to us six in person.
Speaker 2:Yes, bye Kelly, bye Damon.