Navigating the Labyrinth of Labels: Love, Intuition, and Authentic Connections

Have you ever pondered the powerful influence labels wield over our lives and connections? Join me, Megan McDonough, with my insightful daughter Olivia Ferrara, as we explore this intricate dance of descriptors that shape our identities. Our heartfelt discussion delves into the dichotomy of fear and love, dissecting how fear can mask our awareness of love as the universe's core driving force. Together, we share our vulnerabilities and triumphs over labels, reflecting on the infusion of joy and fulfillment that embracing love brings to our lives.

Navigating relationships can be as complex as a labyrinth, but what if your intuition could be your compass? In this candid episode, I share the importance of wielding kindness, truthfulness, and necessity as tools for sculpting authentic interactions. Olivia and I tackle the tough topics of societal branding and its divisive effects, especially in the cauldron of school social dynamics. We converse about the courage it takes to stay true to oneself amid external pressures and how intuition can guide us in maintaining personal integrity even when the path seems fogged by judgment.

Ever considered the quirky social norms we all follow, like the universally accepted practice of bathroom training? It's these curious societal expectations that we scrutinize, pondering the consequences of straying from the beaten path. As we wrap up, Olivia and I warmly extend an invitation to continue the dialogue with us on Instagram at Magnetize your Light. We're eager to field your questions across various platforms and hope you'll join us in celebrating the guiding light of love and intuition in our lives. Listen in for an enriching journey that promises to shift your perspective and open your heart.

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:02

Hello and welcome to Intuitive Insights. I am your host, megan McDonough. This is where I share intuitive well insights, things that have come through either readings or my own intuition, and also where I'd like to explore intuition in general and how you can use it for yourself in your life and cultivate your access to it to create a more foundational trust of self. That's my hope, that's my goal, so hopefully, stuff here that I discuss can resonate with you and that's why I share it. I am an intuitive guide. That's why I share it. I am an intuitive guide, a yoga instructor, an actress, a mom, a lot of things and today I have two very special guests. Initially it was supposed to be one special guest, but the other special guest couldn't help himself and he just had to join in. But he did serve to have some good insights, so I kept him in there. Also this is for the moms out there. You know I had a very different experience growing up as a mom and as a child with my mother, and times are different in general. So I believe that, if you know, we have issues when they come up with our children our children come up against issues. It's good to discuss them and this, to me, is a perfect platform to discuss it and how we can learn from certain lessons. So today we are talking about labels and how they separate us. That is my opinion. I'm challenged by that opinion by my special guest, which you will find out. But I'm going to give you a couple of warnings here.

Speaker 1 1:54

One my second impromptu guest was not initially welcome and I kept in some of the parts where I wasn't showing my you know, very calm version of self, letting them know they weren't welcome into the conversation. I kept that in Because, honestly, you know, we can do our best as moms. We can show up, we can be there and and provide good lessons and so forth. But you know, there's no such thing as perfect and if you know how to do it, oh Jesus, tell me how to do it, you know. So it's kind of not my, my most beautiful self that I'm sharing with you, but but it's part of life and it's. I just thought I'd keep it in. So there is that.

Speaker 1 2:48

The second thing I'm going to tell you is I'm a one man band over here. So, um, I think of myself as that, um, that guy in the movie the music man or the play the music man is playing all the instruments at once, walking down the street wearing them all and, yeah, it never sounds good. So what's happening today is my daughter has her mic on and she cannot stop wiggling. So I took out as much of the distractive audio as possible, but I just want to give you a forewarning that there might be some not so smooth audio. It might be not as a smooth audio experience as you might be hoping for, but all this to say thank you for listening. I hope you learn something from this. I hope you get some kind of insight, some kind of inspiration. Hopefully something resonates with you and, if so, please share it, please subscribe, please like. That just helps me help more of you and it means a lot. So thank you for joining, thank you for listening, and here is this week's insight.

Speaker 1 4:10

All right, today I'm joined by another special guest. I've known this person all their life. They're a magical human, magical human, and what I wanted to discuss with them is this week and with you, is the idea of labels and how they play a role in our life and where they come from. So brands, labels, that kind of thing. But first I'd love to introduce my very creative, very kind, very loving, very beautiful and talented guest Olivia Ferrara. Olivia, olivia, how do I know you? Because you're my mother. That's right. That's right. That's how we know each other, okay, so, olivia, I want to talk to you, I'm going to have, I'm say, some things, some ideas, and I I would love to hear your opinion on it, okay, and then we can have like a nice discussion. Okay, maybe use some examples from life or whatever. So I have a theory, and my theory is that there are two things in the world there is fear, and then there's the most important thing, which is the initial thing. What do you think? The first thing is?

Speaker 2 5:35

The first thing or the initial thing.

Speaker 1 5:39

Initial is first. Yeah, same thing.

Speaker 2 5:40

Oh, okay, um, I think, hope and okay, stop, mac.

Speaker 1 5:49

When I said don't make any noise, that's not what I meant. You're making noise. So, wherever you are, just stay there until we're done. Okay, you're making noise, what are you doing? Okay, we'll go upstairs and stay there until we're done. You're making noise, what are you doing? Okay? Well, go upstairs and stay there until we're done. Okay, thanks, okay. Um, okay, what did I ask you before that? What was first thing? Okay, so there are two things in life. There's one thing, really, but in order to see the one thing, we have the second thing, and the second thing is fear, and the fear helps us see the other thing, which is the main thing. What do you think the main thing is?

Speaker 2 6:42

Is it All right? So I have two guesses. Okay, hope and happiness.

Speaker 1 6:49

Yes, I think those two things are, uh, are, um, sub, I'm going to call frequencies, so subcategories of the main thing. And the main thing is what's your middle name? Love. Main thing is love. So the one universal energy is love, and love brings everything together, love connects, love completes Right. What else does love do? Makes you happy? Makes you happy, joyful content. What else Anything?

Speaker 2 7:31

Um, it makes you pay attention. That's a good one, I like that that's it.

Speaker 1 7:42

So we got okay. Well, that's good, that's good. So fear is the thing that separates, and fear comes from the eco right In my mind, and so fear is what disconnects us, fear is what makes us separate from each other Right, and so my mind. Fear is where we get the labels. Is this boring you?

Speaker 2 8:10

no, I was just about to compliment, I didn't you're about to cough.

Speaker 1 8:14

And then I did oh okay, and so I thought you were yawning, okay. So, um, the, the, uh, the labels in our lives you, you know what I mean Like who this person is branding all that stuff. They're just more variations of labels and, underneath my philosophy and theory, there are more ways to separate us instead of connect us. Do you feel that that's the truth? Do you feel there's any truth to that, or how do you? Feel about that statement.

Speaker 2 8:45

Well, it does make sense. Um, like, if you, if you like, basically like, sometimes when you get something that's very popular in the school, sure, and then, like everybody, just makes fun of you because they think the version of the one you have is fake.

Speaker 1 9:15

And you're specifically talking about an issue you had recently.

Speaker 2 9:19

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 9:20

Okay, and so the big thing is the label of this item.

Speaker 2 9:41

What they, um this jammies, look like, and two so they can be popular.

Speaker 1 9:47

And why do they want to be popular? You think?

Speaker 2 9:49

I don't know. One of my friends wants a Stanley, another one of my friends wants a Stanley, another one of my friends wants a Stanley, and then only one.

Speaker 1 9:59

Why do they want one? You think, why did you want one? I don't know why I wanted one honestly, mac, what do you think?

Speaker 2 10:21

I think she just wanted to fit in with some of her friends.

Speaker 1 10:23

Is that true? You wanted to fit in with some of your friends, but not all of them.

Speaker 2 10:27

No, not exactly. I'm like, I'm not her friend, so Sure, everybody in the Stanley Group isn't my people.

Speaker 1 10:36

Then why did you want one?

Speaker 2 10:39

I don't know honestly. I just kind of wanted one Period. It was a new popular thing, go ahead.

Speaker 1 10:47

Mac, what did you say?

Speaker 2 10:48

It's because you have this feeling that if everybody just starts getting the Stanley, I don't want to get without the. Stanley yeah, exactly, because then everybody's just like.

Speaker 1 11:02

Well, how did you feel when you got the Stanley?

Speaker 2 11:10

I was really excited. I was really excited and I kept like asking, like, um, I kept out, I just kept being like everybody could just ask me, like when you're gonna bring your stanley, when you're gonna bring your stan, when are you going to bring your Stanley? When are you going to bring your Stanley? When are you going to bring your Stanley?

Speaker 1 11:27

Yeah, I'm just like, but you had to do what.

Speaker 2 11:30

I had to bring my water bottle from home and school home, school to home every single day, home to school to home every single day for a week straight, and then I'd be able to bring my home Every single day For a week straight, and then I'd be able to bring my Stanley.

Speaker 1 11:48

Right, you remember why I did that, so.

Speaker 2 11:52

I didn't lose it Right and all the girls, all my friends, were just like when are you going to bring your Stanley? When are you going to bring your Stanley? When are you going to bring your Stanley? At first I said Tuesday, Then on Friday I forgot to bring my water bottle, so it was Wednesday and then you forgot again. I forgot again. So I pushed it to Thursday, which was my last day, and then I forgot again. So Friday was the day I brought my family, yeah, and then I got.

Speaker 1 12:35

Do you think I'm just going to ask this Mac, you can jump in this but do you think that feeling of love, of being connected, that we all probably want? You know, but we're seeking it out in material ways?

Speaker 2 12:54

A completely God-spiritual person, like a bad guy or something.

Speaker 1 12:58

You wouldn't want that. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, that's true, but because that's kind of human nature, right to want to be together, to be connected. Brands through um neighborhood, through companies, through positions yeah, through cars, through houses, through everything, but none of those things really truly bring us together. Because they are labels and brands and they separate. Yeah, because they're defining how we're different, not necessarily connecting us on how we're the same. What do you think Although I don't know, maybe having the same thing makes you feel like you're the same. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 13:58

Well, um, I like to be my own unique person yeah yeah, except yeah, right, some people like to be that I just feel like, but I still want to be connected with all my friends, of course, and now that I brought my stanley and people just like bully me for it, I feel like stanley is just being people well let's talk specifically about that.

Speaker 1 14:33

So someone thought that your stanley wasn't real right and so they weren't gonna allow you into the group she came not.

Speaker 2 14:39

She came up with nine different reasons why it's fake. She comes up with way too many reasons why it's fake.

Speaker 1 14:47

Okay, but let's go back to that. Why do you think that is? What do you think? I don't know. And how did you handle it?

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Speaker 2 14:55

Well one, I know she said that because that's what she thought she wasn't thinking. If it was kind, true or necessary, that's right well, maybe she doesn't know about kind, true and necessary. But you're gonna show her a list of if it's kind, true or necessary yeah, so no, there's one at the door first of all, what is kind, true and necessary.

Speaker 1 15:22

For those of us who don't know, it's not necessary. Excuse me and it's not kind, excuse me.

Speaker 2 15:26

Well, when you say something. It's not necessary, I'm just when you say something.

Speaker 1 15:33

Yeah.

Speaker 2 15:34

You have to see before you say. You have to see if what you're going to say yeah, is kind true or necessary.

Speaker 1 15:43

If it's like Just one of the three or all of them. All of them yeah, okay. It's completely true Right and that's how we are genuine right.

Speaker 2 15:54

At my school though.

Speaker 1 15:55

Yeah.

Speaker 2 15:57

We do kind Mm-hmm, so is it like kind.

Speaker 1 16:07

Yeah.

Speaker 2 16:07

Is it important?

Speaker 1 16:09

That's necessary, yeah.

Speaker 2 16:11

Is it necessary wait? It's like only just at our school there's a big poster on the wall that says kind, something like that that starts with an I like important yeah, important, necessary and, um, no, something that starts with a D. Because, that spells kind oh I see Never pay attention to the posters.

Speaker 1 16:49

Well, not everybody does, because in our classroom because Well, what's good about this particular experience that you had is that it can help you decide and keep forming what kind of person you want to be right.

Speaker 2 17:06

Yeah, I don't think it's.

Speaker 1 17:11

So how do you think you can use? Well, first of all, do you know how to define intuition? If I said the word intuition to you, what would you think that?

Speaker 2 17:19

meant no, it's her turn sorry intuition, like, like does it. I think it might mean something like like enlightened, or enlightened what else Enlightened Not?

Speaker 1 17:44

quite Can.

Speaker 2 17:46

I explain Nope what else it might also mean like intuition right.

Speaker 1 17:55

Intuition. What do you think it means? Do you think you have it? First of all, I think I have it. If I knew what I meant, then I'd be able to answer that question.

Speaker 2 18:15

but so can I explain what? What do you think intuition is? I Max, I know Intuition is like, I think that, like I know, like if you feel or hear or think something's going to happen and then that actually happens, it's like you know it's going to happen, then it actually happens. That's intuition.

Speaker 1 18:34

That's true. And then also intuition is trusting yourself, yeah, yeah, that you know what's right. In turn, you intuitively know right, without someone telling you, you just know. So do you think you have intuition?

Speaker 2 18:58

So do you think you have intuition? So, without somebody just telling me to do something, I just know, yeah, most of the time.

Speaker 1 19:10

Yeah, Do you ever use it?

Speaker 2 19:13

you think and do you think it could be useful in situations when people are being unkind. Yeah, how Well, if you Like that side, the girl who's being mean to me about my Stanley starts being more mean and, like that's fake. It looks different in the picture. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 19:48

She's trying to find all the ways that you're different.

Speaker 2 19:52

I'll just show her to look up at the poster on the wall next to the door and I bet you she'll stop.

Speaker 1 20:04

Is that using your intuition, or is that using your ego to just be like leave me alone, lady?

Speaker 2 20:15

I think it's the second one. I think it's the second one.

Speaker 1 20:18

I think it's the second one too. So, but your intuition.

Speaker 2 20:24

Inspiring Necessary.

Speaker 1 20:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:28

Delightful.

Speaker 1 20:31

Delightful. I don't know if that's right, but I like it, so it's good, delightful, like I eat yummy ice cream that's delicious, oh, which could also be delightful. Um so how could you use your intuition in a situation?

Speaker 2 20:59

where someone's bullying you or being mean well. Well, instead of somebody telling me to just walk away or does not listen to her yeah. I'll just do it because I don't have to pay attention when she's, when she's being like means me and I could just walk away, my yeah.

Speaker 1 21:36

And then how do you take care of yourself? Your intuition is to not get involved, it sounds like, or to not take the bait of her instigatory.

Speaker 2 21:52

Instigatory.

Speaker 1 21:54

Okay, she's trying to be an instigator and get Olivia upset and say that Olivia is not one of them, right? So instead of getting upset, olivia says she uses her intuition, her inner, knowing that it's much better for me to walk away from this girl than it is to get upset. Yeah, and get in a fight, mm-hmm Right.

Speaker 2 22:16

Excuse me.

Speaker 1 22:18

What.

Speaker 2 22:19

Sometimes, when I think of sometimes I accidentally say instigating instead of irritating- Yep, that's a different.

Speaker 1 22:29

You're instigating me. Yeah, that's a different meaning.

Speaker 2 22:35

No, like you're making me mad.

Speaker 1 22:37

Did you change your socks today?

Speaker 2 22:38

But it's making me, it's like sometimes you feel like a mix of irritating and instigating.

Speaker 1 22:46

Sure, did you change your socks today?

Speaker 2 22:51

Yes, I didn't have a pain when I'm on.

Speaker 1 22:53

Okay, okay. So that's using intuition to do the do the right thing for you, which is beautiful, and it's also taking care of yourself, which is great, right, right. So, maybe, and and did that make you feel separate? Okay? So then, coming back to the idea of labels and brands making us feel separate, do you feel that that's a true statement and, if so, how?

Speaker 2 23:25

Well, in some ways it is, in some ways it isn't. Okay Like it is, because most of the time when all the popular people have it, because most of the time when all the popular people have it, they make sure you're fine to join the popular group because you're not popular. Say that again in your class and a bunch of other girls and all the girls that are popular have this big new thing and then you get it and they don't let you in because partly you're not popular and also they think it's fake, just like they did to another girl in my class and another girl that seems really not kind, doesn doesn't it, yeah, so that's why I'm surprised that you wanted to be a part of a group of people who are unkind to each other.

Speaker 2 24:24

Are they the class bully? Is she the class bully?

Speaker 1 24:29

It doesn't matter, that's not what we're talking about. I'm just surprised that you wanted to be part of a group that treats people that way, and I'm curious as to why. That's all. Yeah, it's okay if you don't have an answer, because I do.

Speaker 2 24:48

And then the reason that it doesn't separate us, yeah, is because, well, what if it's like something like cereal?

Speaker 1 25:00

Okay.

Speaker 2 25:01

Cereal doesn't separate us, we just eat it.

Speaker 1 25:04

You mean the brand, the cereal brand?

Speaker 2 25:06

Yeah, lucky Charms doesn't separate us, it's just a good cereal that's very sugary, or maybe like. Cheerios. Sure, that's fair. Or maybe Cocoa Puffs.

Speaker 1 25:16

Yep, those are all different cereals.

Speaker 2 25:18

Fruity Pebbles.

Speaker 1 25:19

Another one.

Speaker 2 25:20

Or possibly Trix. Yep Trix is a cereal, and I don't know a lot of cereals.

Speaker 1 25:31

I think I get the picture. There are different cereals out there.

Speaker 2 25:34

Yeah, and I also think that whoever whoever would be listening to this, gets the point yeah, they get the point, there's more than one cereal.

Speaker 1 25:48

But to your point you're saying and in fact there's not like only one grain of cereal in the world.

Speaker 2 25:54

they said there's only, there's not only one cereal, yep.

Speaker 1 25:58

So I guess my question is what can we learn from this? You know, stuff happens, right, stuff happens in life, and I personally think that when we give things too many labels, that is, and we brand ourselves in too many ways, like I'm like this and like this and like this and like this and like this and like this, it's focusing more on yourself and how you're different than on each other and how we're the same. That's my thought.

Speaker 2 26:45

I ate cereal for breakfast.

Speaker 1 26:47

Okay, so we're really understanding what I'm talking about. Okay, so how? I guess, how can we use this to, I don't know, learn and grow. What do you think?

Speaker 2 27:06

Use this to learn and grow. Say you got lonely because your thing that you got that's popular is like a quote-unquote fake.

Speaker 1 27:25

Right, because it's not the brand, so then it's separate.

Speaker 2 27:29

Yeah, I'm thinking maybe we could have an entire group of people who are fake Stammies, a fake Stammy group.

Speaker 1 27:43

That's a great idea, bud. What do you think about that, Olivia?

Speaker 2 27:46

Then if we do do that, he's laughing because I said something.

Speaker 1 27:53

Well, here I'm going to tell you a story about me with brands and labels when I was your age.

Speaker 2 27:57

Wait, can I just finish saying that 100%.

Speaker 1 27:59

Go ahead.

Speaker 2 28:07

So basically, if we do a thing, it wouldn't be all three people who didn't get a Stanley Cup, it would only be two people, because one of the girls actually had a real Stanley, she just wasn't in the club.

Speaker 1 28:22

She didn't want to be, or they didn't let her in.

Speaker 2 28:23

They didn't let her in. Why? Because her Stanley was the same color as somebody else's.

Speaker 1 28:32

Okay, see, as a mom, that makes me really mad. As a human, that makes me very mad. And when I was a kid, so I'll tell you my story I think I told you this, but I'll tell you anyway. So I went to a Catholic school so we always had to wear a uniform, right? So basically we wore like the same thing every day.

Speaker 2 28:49

Yeah.

Speaker 1 28:58

And once in a while we would have a thing called non-uniform day, where you paid like I don't know, 10 bucks, 20 bucks, something like that, and then if you paid the money which now I'm realizing is pretty ridiculous, but you know you had, you could wear not, you could not wear a uniform. And before school started we were all standing out in front of school getting ready for it to start, you know, and everyone's checking out each other's non-uniform. You know what I mean? And they're they're outfits that are like regular clothes, and my mom had got me the outfit that I was wearing and it was probably from like tj maxx or something, was like an off brand, it wasn't a regular brand. Yeah, and the popular girls came over to me and they were like, oh, this is super, is super cute, I like it. Who makes it? And I was like, um, I don't know. And they're like, no, who was the label? And I was like I don't, I don't know, I don't, I don't think it is a label whatever. And they like, put their hands inside my shirt to pull out to see what the who made the outfit.

Speaker 1 30:00

And then, as soon as they found out that it was like a no, no brand that they recognized, because they were all wearing the spree and benetton those are popular back then, you know whatever else was popular back then and that it wasn't an actual label, a brand that they recognized, right? Then they all were completely uninterested in me again and didn't talk about how cute my outfit was anymore. They didn't want to talk about it and they moved on, and for me it was very upsetting and then I also thought to myself how fake they were, because I was like you liked it when it didn't have a label, so the label doesn't matter, right, but they were acting like the label mattered. And so that was a lesson for me in my life about, right, the uh, how unimportant labels are for me. That's what helped me, you know, and so, and it felt like bullying. It felt it wasn't specifically bullying, but it hurt because it was like you're different, you're nothing. That's what it feels like Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 31:14

And so when a certain group of people tell another group of people that they're less than or not as good as, or different, then that's unkind.

Speaker 2 31:30

Yeah, just completely.

Speaker 1 31:32

Yeah, so as a mom that upsets me. Yeah, so as a mom that upsets me, but as like a teacher. Right, you see a teacher and stuff, and my question to you is like how can we learn from you? Know how? How can we take this lesson and help it sculpt us into better people?

Speaker 2 31:52

yep, so I think I know why. I think I know why they didn't let her in, because there's like only One standee group, so they thought that there's only one standee group, so they thought they were Unique. So if they were unique, then they do.

Speaker 2 32:20

You forgot what you're talking about if they were unique, then they'd have girls that aren't popular yeah so, since they were unique yeah, since they were unique then they'd um, since they're unique, because they're, because there's only one stanley group, I think they want, they don't want other colors to be there, because because then they just don't feel unique yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 32:54

It's a really good point. And the point is there are going to be the Stanley label lovers in life and there are going to be the people who say I don't need a Stanley, I don't need a label to define who I am and whether I'm popular or not popular, or good or bad or whatever, and then they'll be the people that are too afraid to step outside of the label to define themselves. What has this particular incident made you realize the type of person you want to be? I mean, I'm not saying you can't still have a Stanley, but what kind of person do you want to be holding the Stanley?

Speaker 2 33:37

the person who hangs out with their friends and pays attention and doesn't sit in the corner when they're not supposed to during math, and just the person who sits in their seat and pays attention. And the kind of person who's always around their friends.

Speaker 1 34:03

That's pretty specific, and do you think that labels should play an important role in your life Branding?

Speaker 2 34:14

Not really, unless I'm doing like, unless I just decide, um, I'm gonna be like like a singer, somebody that has to do a lot of stuff on stage, sure, and then I need like some really good labels so I could get a perfect outfit, okay.

Speaker 1 34:36

All right, well, thank you for that insight, my love. Thank you for your impromptu joining Mr McAttack, and did you guys learn anything in this talk? Did we learn anything new?

Speaker 2 34:51

I think we learned. Yeah, I learned a story about you. Yeah, you did, I learned about that story too. Yeah, but I think we learned, yeah, I learned a story About me. Yeah, you did, I learned about that story too. Yeah, but I think Olivia learned about intuition.

Speaker 1 35:02

Oh, yeah, that's true, you did, and how to use it and let you have it you know what I believe, I believe we all have intuition.

Speaker 2 35:10

Yeah, I don't know. Some people are more connected, except babies, except babies.

Speaker 1 35:15

Babies are super intuitive. No, no, no. When you came out of my belly, Mac, when you came out of my belly, you went straight for my boob for breakfast. How would you know that without intuition?

Speaker 2 35:28

You too, I mean you cried and screamed a little bit.

Speaker 1 35:34

But that's intuition. But with some baby you knew, without anyone telling you, that you needed milk from a but some one-year-olds aren't.

Speaker 2 35:48

Well, pretty much all of the babies don't go to the toilet. When they go to the bathroom, they just go.

Speaker 1 35:58

But they go to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 36:02

And in their pants. That's training. They go to the bathroom in their pants.

Speaker 1 36:06

Right, and they get trained to go in the toilet because that's what we as society deem as socially acceptable.

Speaker 2 36:14

What if they don't?

Speaker 1 36:16

It's a deep thought for another subject and another time. Okay, so we say until next time. Until next time you want to say you can find me at Magnetize your Light on Instagram, mama could you make a? Magnetize your Light t-shirt yes, if you have a question for me or Mac or Olivia, you can reach me at info at Magnetize your Light, or on Instagram, youtube or Facebook at Magnetize your Light, and we can say thank you for listening, yes, thank you for joining.

Speaker 2 36:51

Yes, and have a magical day, and we could also say goodbye. Wow, this is almost 40 minutes long.

Speaker 1 37:05

Thank you.