Have you ever felt the pull of a deeper connection with the universe but struggled to find your pathway there? Kirsten Askins, astrologer and yogi, joins us to share how astrology, yoga, and a range of holistic practices can be the compass to guide you to your higher self. With her rich experience and as the founder of Hanu Yoga Studio and Holistic Arts Center, Kirsten offers her insights on tapping into intuition and aligning with spiritual growth. Our conversation is a treasure map for the soul, leading you through personal anecdotes and professional wisdom that unveil the art of nurturing our often-neglected energetic bodies.
As we navigate our spiritual journeys, the challenge of maintaining balance in our increasingly complex world becomes apparent. Kirsten and I take you back to our early brushes with spirituality, comparing them to the current quest for authenticity and heart-centered living. We reflect on the transformative power of spiritual practices and the importance of intuitive teaching, sharing stories that shine a light on the journey from self-doubt to becoming conduits for higher energies. This episode is an invitation to explore the interplay between creativity, intuition, and the duality of love and fear, inspiring you to honor the energetic part of your being as much as the physical.
Wrapping up with a celestial flourish, we announce the 'My Mission' theme for our upcoming C3 monthly meditation meetup, coinciding with the full moon in Sagittarius. Whether you're a meditation enthusiast or a curious newcomer, Kirsten's guidance in using astrology as a tool for self-discovery promises to be enlightening. We leave you with a sense of anticipation for the next full moon, where you can join us in exploring the soul's mission and perhaps illuminate the path towards living your most authentic life.
To receive your own personal Intuitive Soul Reading and personalized workbook visit: https://magnetizeyourlight.com/intuition
Have you ever felt the pull of a deeper connection with the universe but struggled to find your pathway there? Kirsten Askins, astrologer and yogi, joins us to share how astrology, yoga, and a range of holistic practices can be the compass to guide you to your higher self. With her rich experience and as the founder of Hanu Yoga Studio and Holistic Arts Center, Kirsten offers her insights on tapping into intuition and aligning with spiritual growth. Our conversation is a treasure map for the soul, leading you through personal anecdotes and professional wisdom that unveil the art of nurturing our often-neglected energetic bodies.
As we navigate our spiritual journeys, the challenge of maintaining balance in our increasingly complex world becomes apparent. Kirsten and I take you back to our early brushes with spirituality, comparing them to the current quest for authenticity and heart-centered living. We reflect on the transformative power of spiritual practices and the importance of intuitive teaching, sharing stories that shine a light on the journey from self-doubt to becoming conduits for higher energies. This episode is an invitation to explore the interplay between creativity, intuition, and the duality of love and fear, inspiring you to honor the energetic part of your being as much as the physical.
Wrapping up with a celestial flourish, we announce the 'My Mission' theme for our upcoming C3 monthly meditation meetup, coinciding with the full moon in Sagittarius. Whether you're a meditation enthusiast or a curious newcomer, Kirsten's guidance in using astrology as a tool for self-discovery promises to be enlightening. We leave you with a sense of anticipation for the next full moon, where you can join us in exploring the soul's mission and perhaps illuminate the path towards living your most authentic life.
To receive your own personal Intuitive Soul Reading and personalized workbook visit: https://magnetizeyourlight.com/intuition
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Speaker 1:Yeah, let's just go see where this goes. You know what I mean.
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Speaker 1:All right, all right, so we're recording, right, okay, good, okay, good, okay. This week, with Intuitive Insights, we are exploring our intuition with my friend, kristen Eskins. Kristen has been a student of astrology and yoga since she was 18. She's now on her second.
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Speaker 1:My name is Kirsten Kirsten. Oh my God. I keep saying Kirsten and I know it's Kirsten. Fuck me, kirsten.
Speaker 2:Askins.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
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Speaker 1:And as soon as I said it, I was like I need to check that with her. Okay, we'll start over, okay, okay.
Speaker 2:As here we go, here we grow.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay. This week we were talking all things intuition and the exploration of our spiritual journey with kirsten askins. Fuck me, askins, askins. Right. What if I can keep saying it wrong, okay, oh no, it's so easy, I know it's so easy.
Speaker 1:Okay, because now it's in my head wrong you know this thing okay okay, this week we are here with my friend, kirsten askins, and you can't do it that way now I'm nervous about it. This is like what I would talk when I would, uh, my, I would help my yoga teacher out, like with some you know workshops and stuff she would do virtually, and I would always like panic. Even though I knew the words in Sanskrit, I would panic and say them wrong. You know?
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Speaker 2:I'm like this Stick your tongue out. Ah, I learned enough from pictures. Yeah, that's an actor.
Speaker 1:I was going to say that's an acting thing, yeah, okay. Okay, today we are talking with my friend Kirsten Eskint Fuck me. I'm going to say Just say Kirsten.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm going to put.
Speaker 1:Kirsten Askins. Askins, kirsten Askins. Oh my God, maybe I'm getting a divorce?
Speaker 2:Am I getting a divorce Because you can't say my last name? I'm just kidding, I don't know. I'm going to go back, all right. Okay, I just don't like my last name, kirsten.
Speaker 1:Askins. Okay, this week we are talking with my friend, kirsten, as Kristen Askins. She has been a student of astrology and yoga since she was 18. She's now in her late 50s. Both of those artistic expressions in the 80s did not have the formal training, so she sought out teachers on her own and apprenticed to learn one-on-one we call it guru cool style in yoga, and since that time she has grown in practitioners and trainers. And over the years, kirsten has completed formal schooling in both astrology and yoga and considers each lifelong commitments of practice learning and teaching commitments of practice, learning and teaching.
Speaker 1:Kirsten feels that all art is a way to know yourself and to connect to your higher self and has always been drawn to astrology and yoga as tools to wholeness and wellness. Kirsten is also a certified aromatherapist Reiki master teacher also a certified aromatherapist, reiki master teacher, tarot reader and is currently learning herbalism from the East and the West. In 2011, she and two other committed teachers opened Hanu Yoga Studio and Holistic Arts Center, located in downtown Barnegat, new Jersey, which I've been to, and it's a fabulous studio. At Hanu Yoga, you can find yoga, astrology, reiki, tarot, acupressure and sound meditations as a way to know yourself and be amongst others who wish to do the same. Welcome, kirsten.
Speaker 2:Hi, how are you Awesome Wonderful. How are you Awesome Wonderful? How about?
Speaker 1:you, I'm good. I'm good Now that my mouth is functioning properly. I was having a hard time spitting out words earlier Happens to all intuitive beings. We are all creative beings.
Speaker 1:I have this theory that we're hybrid beings, so we have our physical body and we have our energetic body, and we do a lot of things to maintain, to rejuvenate, to keep healthy our physical body like eating properly, exercising, rest when we're out of battery and our energetic body doesn't always get the same amount of attention. I feel like now there's more opportunities and ways in which to revitalize our energetic body, but in the past, like when you and I were growing up, there wasn't a lot of options. Like I said in your intro, you had to seek out. I said in your intro, you had to seek out. So, and I also believe that we all are on a spiritual journey, whether or not we know it or not. So my first question to you is what and how did you come about your spiritual journey and evolution? Like what? Do you remember what the inciting incident was that put you on this path?
Speaker 2:I remember I wasn't really raised with a in the, in a religion, so to speak, although there was Catholicism around me through my grandparents. Neither of my parents were churchgoers, so to speak. But I remember, around 13 or 14, needing a God connection, wanting to have no God in some way, and I approached my mom about it and she kind of passed me off to my grandmother, who was already attending church you know, Catholic church and I did have to go back. I kind of retraced all the steps that you have to do to be in the Catholic church, meaning I mean, I had had the baptism but I did like the CCD and the communion and all of that stuff. But then again I felt like that there was a failure there for me. You know, I'd asked questions to the in my CCD classes, to the nuns, and they were like don't ask questions, just trust, and that that didn't resonate for my, my mind. I mean, I do, there's some sense of trust, but there's certain questions I had that I wanted answers to.
Speaker 2:And, um, I did have a, uh, a member of my, also a member of my family, who was, uh, very religious, uh, like, uh, like I want to say not Christian, but I can't remember the term, but ultra, ultra religious and I kind of learned a lot from them but also said, yes, something's not clicking. So I reached out to. I grew up on the Jersey Shore, I went to school, to college at NYU and there it's, the Mecca of the world of cultures. Walking around New York talking to Buddhists, talking to Hindus, studying astrology, I found a teacher who was teaching astrology to NYU and Columbia students and have continued to grow since then, just learning. I feel like I learned from all the different religions, which we all can do and just take what is true for me um so that sounds so similar to what I my path.
Speaker 1:So I wanted to want to resonate with that. I, um, I grew up catholic in a catholic family and went to a catholic and I jokingly have a bragging badge that I got kicked out of every religion class except for my senior high school year class, because I would always challenge and ask questions and when I didn't get the answers I was like, well, why are you testing me? But then when I went to Los Angeles, I had this whole period where I went to a different kind of church and denomination.
Speaker 2:I went to Buddhist temples, I studied Kabbalah, I went to different Christian and Catholic churches and temples, all for the same thing, to find the nugget of truth that resonated with me, you know, which I think is very interesting, that you did the same yeah, I, I, um, and I do remember being um, about five, but between the age of five and seven, um, kind of going on my own, I used to play this game called magic garden and I would, in the town, okay, did you make potions and stuff? Well, not at the time, but we lived in this beautiful, at the time, old Victorian town on the shore here and I used to illegally go to all the neighbors' gardens. So I think that's a little my Scorpioio rising, you know just uh.
Speaker 1:I know, but I did the same thing. I would, I would. We would play like magic and witches and we would make. We would take um stuff from everybody's yard and garden and make, like you know, mix it together and make potions and, oh my God, this is. I think we have the same lives in different areas.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes. So I remember that time, you know, before you get really into the school, of just and now I feel like I'm back to that person again, of now I'm back with the plants and the herbs so much, and that's a big part of just returning to not only the physical but also the spiritual, just seeing within me and the plants, um, reflecting this god or spirit or whatever word you want to use, spinning up lines of communication. Yeah, I feel like all you know they all these years of just being in school or being conditions to live a certain way, and now trying to kind of come out of that conditioning and back, return back to, yeah, to a normal, what is normal lifestyle and holistic being well, it's all about balance.
Speaker 1:Right like it's it's. It's balancing those two hybrid bodies, the physical with the energetic right yeah yeah, and coming through physical means and energetic means and and so forth. I feel yeah, and I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do remember it being like in the 80s, being like I. I used to work in New York City. I worked at Merrill Lynch. I it killed me. I thought, oh my god, I can't. Everyone dressed the same, everyone. There was no heart. I felt there. It was like a fear-based like. Everyone thought they were going to lose their job at any moment. I'm like what is going on? This is what people aspire to. So I really thought I had made a wish. I remember writing in my journal I wish more people would go into massage, go into these healing modalities. And now it's here. Right, I feel like massage, go into these, you know, healing modalities. And now it's kind of it's here right, I feel like wow, really, my dream has has happened.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and still more to go right, still like more and more to go, but it's definitely an awakening and, um, I did, I have connected. I do like I have a meditation practice that I found in, I want to say, 2017, that has deepened my connection to physical body, to light body. Yeah, that has really helped me. But also continue to learn and grow and and teach what I learn, um, through the studio, through, through classes, through astrology yeah, and so do you have a particular um.
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, let's go back. What is the what's the meditation practice you did you? Is it a practice of someone else's, or is it something you cultivated personally?
Speaker 2:I use well, I did join the Y everything that Yogi Bhajan has taught, which is kind of like the whole, that's a whole nother method. So I guess I'm I am kind of hybrid, hybriding myself together in my own way and also learning. I'm learning the Tibetan, um kind of teachings as well. So I think, yeah, I've just tapped the surface of what there is to learn and do, and I just noticed too that now, um, it's all coming together in the sense that, um, people are putting together like the um, western, eastern, eastern, everything's like merging into one. We're not saying the chinese medicine is the best, or the indian or the, it's all like, okay, let's all come together, let's all create and know, learn from everybody. Yeah, see that happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah absolutely like. There's truth everywhere, right yeah, yeah and yeah so. I've been teaching yeah, how long have you been teaching?
Speaker 2:I've been teaching since 2000 yoga and I definitely use, like I am definitely a a channeling teacher.
Speaker 2:You know I feel like I don't shut off me because I'm, I'm, I've gotten used to it, but I'm the last person that wants to be in front of everybody. I'm, like I did it at the time. Like I did it because, like not a lot of people were doing it and I was like, all right, I'll do this. And now a lot of people are doing it, but I'm still doing it. But I feel like, yeah, I'm, I definitely to get in front of everyone and to speak and and to present. I just shut off myself and I allow another energy to work through me 100%. I wouldn't be able to get in front of people if I didn't do that.
Speaker 1:So is that so you basically turn, allow yourself to become a vessel for wisdom to come through. So and then that's in your yoga teaching, or in all, all modalities that you utilize, or 100%.
Speaker 2:I would say all modalities. I definitely used to it in the yoga teaching but doing that for so long. But yeah, 100%, whether it's being an astrology reading or the tarot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just I know and so what's your, since we're talking all things into it? So, first of all, would you call that intuition and if not, how would you define?
Speaker 2:intuition Well.
Speaker 2:I guess good, good, good question. Yeah, I guess maybe I'm not pushing myself aside so much, maybe I'm working with spirit and me, and I think that's what we all need help, a little help from our friends, so to speak. Um, so, yeah, I think intuition is being guided by good. You know being making that choice.
Speaker 2:I think every moment, um, we have a choice to align with, whether you call it christic energy, right, the christ within, every moment you have a choice to raise the your, the christ within you I'll use that word because I come from that like lineage of, of belief, um, but whatever word you want to give it that once you align with good, um, then you have, then christ has risen, or the good has, or god has risen, or you're you, you're, you're good on earth. I know in the yogic philosophy that they teach that it kind of makes sense to me that we're in this place, or loka, or location, and loka in Sanskrit, that, um, we have the blessing on earth to experience heaven or hell, that in the seven uh, seven heaven realms above us, no hell. In the seven, hell realms below us, no heaven, but in this location we get to have both. So lucky, right, lucky us that you know it's always and it's a willful choice, and that we have a choice at any moment, no matter what we're experiencing, to decide or to perceive either.
Speaker 1:Right, it's almost like an Instagram filter, right. So you can choose the positivity filter or you can choose, you know, the fear based filter to see the images. Same images, different filter. Yes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good way to put it. Yeah, I love how the, how the world around us shows us really who we are Like. I remember one of my uh, dharma Mitra, one of my favorite yoga teachers. He always said you know, we're wireless. We're as that computer system developed around us.
Speaker 1:It just reflected back who we are yes, it's the, with the hermetic principle as above, so below as within yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, so, um, so, using your intuition is so.
Speaker 1:So this is something that I've been reflecting on a lot lately, and that is that there are speaking of this subject, there are two. There's one energy, there's one energy, and that energy is love and all of its sub frequencies, right? So joy, peace, happiness, generosity, graciousness, gentle, you know, and in order to see that we have a dualistic world that incorporates fear and all of its sub frequencies, world that incorporates fear and all of its sub frequencies, and so the fear helps us see the light and the light helps us see the fear, right, and so for me, the intuition is an element of light and the ego is an element of fear, and we have such a fear-based society right now because we have more. So I also believe that, in our hybrid being systems, our brain is our physical body brain and our heart is our energetic body heart. You know, or, and you know what I mean by that. I guess I don't know if that makes sense, but so the, the master of the energetic body is the heart and the master of the physical body is the brain. And we have so much more knowledge now, there's so much more information, that the imbalance of physical to energetic, and I also think that's probably why the rise of all these energetic modalities is coming up to help with the balance. But it's creating a very, you know, anxiety-based society. You know that pulls us off track. So going into these energetic modalities helps connect with that heart centered brain or power system and with the intuition.
Speaker 1:But do you find and I find I find myself doing this all the time, like you know, when I'm teaching I teach in a very similar way where I kind of intuitively what I call feel, see, feel, hear, meaning like I hear it through feeling and I see it through feeling what's going on with the students in order to sculpt the class a certain way, right For what they need for balance. They need for balance what I'm doing, come forward, um, but you know, when the class is over, I, you know, go back to my life and I find myself going down these neur it's hard not to so reminding myself of the intuitive element, the energetic element within me. It's a daily practice and it's simple but not easy. So my question to you is do you have something like that or do you, you know, what is your process to go from? Um, being an intuitive vessel, are you able to maintain it in everyday life and, if so, how? And if not, do you have guardrails that let you know where you're off?
Speaker 2:yeah, I have places I go that I it's tough, I um, I have a hard time maintaining that that love um, but that's really that's it. Once the heart, yogananda says that the heart does not know fear.
Speaker 2:So if you're, in your heart, you're, there's no fear. So just even physically, energetically, just dipping back into the heart, kind of just putting your awareness into your heart, breath work, these are all ways, but yeah, there's places I go that I feel it's it's, it's hard to stay in that love. And so I try, you know, I try to.
Speaker 2:I use everything, whether it be the essential oils, yeah, the breath work or yeah, meditation or a call or the mantra mantras are really powerful to you know. Keep your mind on away from the fear, um so all of that stuff.
Speaker 1:But yeah, go ahead yeah, I was just gonna say you, you mentioned art in your um and creative expression in in your studio um, and why you cultivated it and is that are? Do you? Are you an artist or do you just like to use? Because I find I was always a. When I was a kid, I was a drawer and a painter. I just loved creative expression. It's just who I'm that I can't help myself. And I, when I lost touch with my intuition, which it just kind of was like life layers, life layers, life layers, until the next thing you know you're buried and you don't recognize yourself, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then when you start peeling off those layers, right Like in reconnecting back to your intuition, For me my creativity just sprung to life, and so for me, creativity is an access point to intuition and intuitive play. So I guess my question is is how do you utilize that and do you feel the same way about creativity?
Speaker 2:I guess my question is is how do you utilize that? And do you feel the same way about creativity? Yeah, I feel the soul speaks. The soul is not linear. You know, we have such a linear culture. The soul is not linear Soul, it's like a dream, so it doesn't make sense sometimes. So that's kind of the thing with creativity. You can come out of that linear thinking.
Speaker 2:But all I think, all all art, whether it be dance or song or you know readings, anything that you know, you all, creativity is that divine feminine expression, shakti, yeah, so, and then you are co-creating that whole. You are a part of that, if you choose. So, yeah, I think that it's so important to let each soul have its way to, or many ways to express itself in in whatever form that it feels like it wants to show. Yeah, so, yeah, create, create, create. That's what this earth plane is about. That's what, um, you see it, you see happening all around you every day, through the, through the plants, again through right Through the birth of a child, everything through making of a meal, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And so what drew you? I'm now I'm just going to take us back to astrology. So what drew you to astrology? Because'm just going to take us back to astrology. So what drew you to astrology? Because the other, uh, which is an energetic thing, but it's also kind of physical, because we have the planets, right, we have physical bodies, um, you know, uh, but energy it's like a hybrid right, like it's physical planetary bodies but energetic qualities.
Speaker 2:Is that correct? Yeah, I think there are archetypal energies that are available to us. You can speak about them in Jungian archetypes or I think they called it the 12. I forget the 12, something of Hercules I was remembering. It's kind of like the same thing that's in every culture, whether you want to call it planets or what's available to us. Like I, when I was 18, I thought I was going to college I thought isn't there astrology here?
Speaker 1:Like I, guess it comes from past life.
Speaker 2:Like I was like, why isn't there astrology at this college? Like I didn't know, like why I thought you know like, isn't that part of the coursework? I was so naive and why you didn't have it. Actually I was like, and they still don't have it. But, um, there's some schools in London that are um university. Um, but yeah, I guess I was like isn't this already? Shouldn't this? Why can't I?
Speaker 1:I thought I could study that and I'm serious and I actually wanted to study herbology, but they didn't have it in DeKalb Illinois so I was like why don't they? Herbology is like an option.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So you, that has to be to me a past life thing, like where you just come in, know, like, wait, how is it? Why isn't this here, um? And it really is this, no matter what you choose, it's all the same information. Whether the plants are like the planets, it's the same thing. The planets are in the plants, it's the same word, almost. Yeah, so you can go to like a Mars plant or a Venus plant or a sun plant, and so it's just, it's really all the same. It gets to be very, almost basic, but yet, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I was lucky to find this guy bob marks, I think he's still around that said, hey, I want to. You know, he used to wear a suit and he would teach. He taught us. He wanted to teach um students astrology to make it more, uh, like a logical or more acceptable. I guess not that. He was like this hippie.
Speaker 2:And then when I I actually I had, like I call it my early retirement, I kind of my dad died when I was 27. And, um, I, after he died, I just was like I watched him work his whole life, get sick and die, never really, um, you know, enjoyed a retirement or anything like that. So I thought I'm not going to do this with my life, I'm not going to work and then die. And then, you know, so I, I, I got rid of everything and I moved to Hawaii for seven years and yeah, yeah and so, and there too, I searched, searched for the plants and it was still like real hidden. You know, they don't even get me started with that whole culture, but, um, and I feel like I've had past lives there for sure, um, but um, oh so, and then, while in Hawaii, I met an astrologer who I learned a lot from and you know he I'd ask questions. He'd like here, read this book, read this book. He had an amazing library, so I kind of apprenticed him and then got back to the States, or you know, to the mainland, and self study, self study.
Speaker 2:And then I took like a course. I love this one teacher. I took his course in uh 2017, just to, you know, feel like I had an official uh certificate, so to speak. But um, you know, still, it's still, there's so much to learn. I'm just delving into the medical astrology. There's so much with that there's it's amazing.
Speaker 2:It's amazing there's, and even they said, like back in the day, if you were a physician, you were an astrologer, like it just yeah, it's so much in the chart, you know, whether it be physical or mental or emotional. They say carl john was an astrologer, that's you know, his daughter carried on his. Uh, so it just, you know, just seemed like a normal thing to me. I, I didn't know that it wasn't at the time and now I love that, yeah, I, I it's everywhere, like it's so accessible. It's. This whole internet thing is just, you know, there's the kids below us are they speak the language already, like and Like, and even you know cause in Hawaii too, there was more people from California. They were kind of ahead of us with, like, they knew at least some astrology, but it's like another language, right, and so, yeah, so, whether you and there's so much information in the chart, so it's just it just always I was always drawn to it. I can't say it just seemed like, doesn't everybody know Well?
Speaker 1:it definitely sounds like you came in with some. You came in fully loaded in that department as far as a past life right, like when you were like okay, I'm going to finish my work now, where are my resources? Yeah, what was I going to? I was going to say something and I cannot remember.
Speaker 2:I feel like, too, that my age, like I do feel like a bridge between, you know, the older, older people and the younger people, where it's like I feel like when I went to, when I graduated college, we still hadn't computers, weren't really a thing like I remember typing. We had computers but nobody was making you get on a computer. I really I type, I type my last paper. I remember in the kitchen and sitting in the kitchen typing my with the white out. You know it's typing, yeah so, but I did have to go back and learn.
Speaker 2:You know to be in the kitchen typing my with the whiteout. You know it's typing, yeah so, but I did have to go back and learn. You know to be in the world to learn computers and stuff. So I feel like our. I don't know if we're the same age, but I do feel like, yeah, we're that bridge between you know.
Speaker 1:I do feel that way. I think isn't there what's, what's the planet that? Isn't there a planet that's a gender that does generations? Is that, is that pluto, or is it that it's kind of like a generational planet?
Speaker 2:is it pluto? There's three, three, three. Yes, pluto, uranus and neptune are generational, and so I feel like they take so long. Is that why, yeah, they take long through a sign?
Speaker 1:Uranus is the quickest yeah, um, but I do feel like if we're in the same generation or not. With that there is, I do feel, my generation and hearing you say it now just echoes how I've what I've been experiencing is that in feeling, is that, you know, I'm looking at the older generation, which is like my parents my parents were very young when they had me but they're like in the baby boomer generation and there's so much fear in them but that was a lot of it was from the generation prior, you know, which was war generation even more fear, fear, right. But then you look at the generations um, younger, and they're coming in, speaking astrology, talking tarot. They're like, like, and no big deal. You know, there are no hang-ups about it, there is no um. There are other things.
Speaker 1:I think they're going in some cases, maybe going a little far in the labeling, which to me is separating people more than conjoining them or connecting. But and that's not every place. I'm just, you know, and I just I just I see that because society now is one big marketing thing. You know what I mean Like, yeah, and in order to market something, you have to label it and package it. And you know I mean like, yeah, and in order to market something, you have to label it and package it and, you know, have a brand and um, but it also then you limit it too. But anyway, that's a whole another discussion. But the point is is I feel like our generation is kind of it's bridging the gap. It's like it's the spiritual seekers. We're kind of the ones that are opening up the door, you know, for this next generation to just come in, you know, basically balls out and be like, yeah, I'm a spiritual being, what's up, you know hello, yes, yes, yes, I'm here, yeah, yeah, it's um.
Speaker 2:yeah, we're bridging for sure. So I I do have a lot of students who are older, um, and also younger, but, yeah, I feel like I can assist them in um, in whether it's going to be the transition to death and then also life. But, yeah, the next age coming in is the Aquarian age, although astrologers do say that we're really just on the cusp of that. This is not going to happen for another hundred years. The true shift. So we're in that, yeah, it doesn't start for another about a hundred years. I don't know what the truth is, but that's the, it's the word where we have a cut.
Speaker 1:Say again that's the word on the. I said that's the word on the astrology street that's the word on the.
Speaker 2:I said that's the word on the astrology street, yeah, where people say we're in it, um, some, no, no, we're not in it yet, but we are setting the stage, you know, for that which the aquarian age will be a age of experiencing divine. Where we're coming out, I see an age. That is where we, you, just had to believe. You may not have had an experience, but believe, but now, as things change in the ether, that it will be more of and and yoga says. Yogananda says, if you are usually, peace is the first, uh, emanation, right? If you're experiencing peace, you are. If you are usually, peace is the first emanation, right? If you're experiencing peace, you are yoked, you are joined with divine, and then, after that, the love and the bliss and the joy, all of that. So just remembering that, that's the main thing, that's it.
Speaker 1:I have one last question for you. You ready, kirsten? Yeah, okay, do you um feel like, well, I believe everyone has a purpose. Do you know what your purpose is and how are you activating it?
Speaker 2:it. Well, you know, um, I do look at the chart um for um direction and in my own chart I have, and we look at the one of the most important things are what are called the moon's nodes. So I have I was born in a, in a nodal axis of um, scorpio coming from Scorpio going to Taurus. We have the flip of each other. Yeah, I think we're probably nine years apart, would that be? Yeah, so we're good for each other. So I do know that the grounded passion, or passion being Scorpio, grounding, being tourists, is what I need to do, and I also need to partner with people and not do everything by myself, because it's I have a first house, seven house, polarity back. I can't believe. I've been. I've been teaching places. I've been.
Speaker 2:2004 is when I kind of started teaching in the area that I'm in now and I'm still teaching. I can't believe it. It's been 20 years. I feel like I just started, yeah. So I feel like, yeah, I definitely had some. I definitely met my grounded passion where I didn't move around. I didn't move around where, cause I've definitely moved around a lot in my life. I didn't move around where, because I've definitely moved around a lot in my life I've done things for, like I've which is following the Mars cycle, two and a half years like let me try this, I don't like this, let me try this. Oh, I don't like I've done I've been almost in every industry, yeah, uh, and that's not always good to switch, you know. But so I do feel like, wow, I okay, I got my grounded passion, I met that. I'm still still evolving. So, yeah, I feel like I fulfilled that, that mission of wow, oh my God, I've been, I've been teaching the same places for 20 years, the same places for 20 years.
Speaker 2:That's Taurus. And doing soul transformational, which is Scorpio, right, or something that you're passionate about. Or helping others kind of meet, just helping others to feel good, which is part of aligning with spirit, right with, which is what you said to be in love. So, um, yeah, so I feel like I'm on the next and where we opened in 2011 on, yeah, yeah, I'm in, I'm in my second um, which is the jup 12 years. I'm in my second Jupiter cycle. So now I do need to. And you know, also the studio, like I can't believe, over the years I've stuck with that. Like it's just wow, it's unbelievable for me, for someone who, like I said, had pretty much changed every two and a half years, had pretty much changed every two and a half years, um, but now, so I have this space where I can still expand and grow from and, yeah, not sure where the herbs are going to take me. I'm open, um, but they that. Yeah, that's a an interesting that you wanted to study herbalism, right?
Speaker 1:I did. I still like do it as a hobby. It's. I mean, I love plant medicine. It's I love it. It just makes us so. You know the word. I've just been ruminating on the word Santosha a lot lately and I've been introduced. I teach a lot in Chicago public schools and so I've been introducing it to the students, that word, and what it means, which is contentment. No reason to worry or to yearn or to regret. You have everything you need. That's hard to do, to do that simple but not easy. But, um, the plants are another reinforcement of that.
Speaker 2:You know we have everything, yeah yeah, and that that school system is another kind of environment for me, depending on where you are, where it's like it's hard for me to be in that space because it isn't natural, right, and there's sometimes situations where like, wow, if I did bring a plant in here, it wouldn't grow because there's not natural light or you know. So how can you put a person in here? Put a person in here, um, but yeah, you know when the systems are being altered, we know those big systems because they don't fit. They don't fit the the evolution, they they're not going to make it into the aquarium age no yeah no, yeah, everything is.
Speaker 1:Change is the only constant right yeah, yeah, so, uh, yes, definitely.
Speaker 2:And you, when you said um the santosha, it reminded me of um and to live in. You know you have everything that you need. It reminds me of the um. Is it even alexander? Do you know his work, dr? Even alexander, no, wrote proof of heaven.
Speaker 2:He wrote proof of heaven and he had a near-death experience, um, which was so beautiful the way he explains it. That um, he, he saw a woman riding a big butterfly, uh, and said to him exactly that you had, you have everything that you need, there's nothing to fear and you are eternally loved. And I always think that and sometimes teach that that, yeah, unless you, if you don't believe that in your heart, you have to rewrite your own heart, your own disc, disc, right, you have to read, we have to reboot the system, and that's always a constant reminder. And it turns out in that story that he was adopted and that woman was his pre deceased sister riding that butterfly. Wow, it's crazy story. Yeah, and he, you know, since, since then he interviewed hundreds of nurses and doctors who have also talked to patients who have had near-death experiences.
Speaker 2:It's just interesting, right yeah, again bridging that, that those places um so yeah that was.
Speaker 1:That's, I think, a perfect place to end our talk. That visual, I love that visual. Um, thank you so much, kirsten, for joining me. Um, if you are in new jersey, you can visit kristin and her beauty, or, kirsten, fuck me you can visit Kirsten and her beautiful studio, hanu Yoga, in Barnegat, new Jersey. What's a good email for you, kirsten, if anyone was looking to you for, say, astrology or any of the other modalities you're an expert in.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you. It's Kirsten K-I-r-s-t-e-n at hanuyoga h-a-n-u-y-o-g-acom what does that come from hanuyoga?
Speaker 1:I see the turtle. The turtle is your, your little logo. Is that from hawaii?
Speaker 2:it's so funny because actually turtle is hono and I've gotten people over the years. You spelled turtle wrong. I'm like no, because hanu is the hawaiian word for breath I knew, but also um, so I, but it's also um a marma point, which the marma points are in india are 100. There's 108 marma points that are healing points. So it's the point. It's just below your um lower lip. It's in the center, on your chin, if you press there oh yeah that's scorpio point, it's courage and passion.
Speaker 2:hanu because it's hanu means jaw, so it's that part of the. So I'm like, oh yeah, jaw, yeah, jaw, yoga, no, but yeah, and that's the Marma point.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love that and I did not know that, and I'm, I'm again, that's. You've just touched on another one of my hobbies, which is acupressure and Marma therapy, and I think you were sisters in another life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, learn the marmas, for sure, and the varmas, which are the points that you know. Those are the deadly points. There's a few varma points yeah. So, yeah, these are all, and it's in the Chinese medicine, it's in Tibetan, all of those things, yeah, so it's like a we are little.
Speaker 1:It's almost like at one point I had this visual that we were like little robots in a way and that, um, the acupuncture, acupressure, marma points are like the manual to um operating function for the physical body and energetic, really, because it kind of they kind of connect both, don't they?
Speaker 2:yeah, they said that who, um, if you? They taught the marmas too, not only for topical healing but also for surgery. They knew that if you cut into those marma points you wouldn't feel as well. So it is, they're like these big energy um crossroads in the body.
Speaker 1:So they did teach, thought that they would, they would not, um, they would also not like either. I don't know if it was muscles or tendons or whatever, but on the marma points during surgery and then leave it that. You know what I mean Like. So it would be an extra pressure point on the marma point, did you see? Have you seen that?
Speaker 2:No, like, what do you mean? Like, hold the point while they're.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so. So when I was initially looking, reading about marma therapy some book that I had this is now years ago in my 20s and it was a surgical marma therapy book like it would talk about the surgery aspect of it and that I mean they would not, um, I guess it would be like it was either like I don't know if you can not tendons or muscles I don't know what it was but that they would make the knot on the marma point and then, you know, sew the body back up, so that it was like an internal, consistent acupressure. I feel like that's what I read Now. It was a while ago so I could be inaccurate about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes sense that they knew these were energy. They're little chakras, really little chakras, all over the body. Um that, if you know, you don't, you want to avoid cutting them right because it's true.
Speaker 1:So Kirsten is going to be joining us on the C3 monthly meditation meetup group and we are going to be looking at that's on the 28th of May and we are going to be looking at that is when the moon is full and in Sagittarius, and we are going to be looking at my mission is the theme for this meetup. So we're going to intuitively look at what our soul is calling us forward to an astrological lens, what our astrology chart is guiding us towards. So if you're interested in learning more about that or joining us, you can email me at info, at magnetize your life, or get more information under the community tab on my website. Magnetize your lightcom and um, thank you so much for joining us and thank you, kirsten, for uh, this is, this is wonderful. I want to keep talking to you Like we have to have more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot of comment for sure.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, we'll talk to you soon and um big buckets of love, Take care. All right, I'll edit that.