Ever pondered the vastness of the universe and the fleeting nature of our mortal coil? Come take a journey with me, Arlo Johnson, and my guest as we unwrap the mysteries of existence and the biblical vision of a new heaven and a new earth. Our conversation spans the impermanence of the present world, the grand scale of divine architecture as envisioned in Revelation, and the inclusive nature of salvation. We ask not just about the size of God's city, but the weight of our choices in a world where life is but a precursor to eternity.
Transitioning from celestial to societal, we examine the seismic shifts in family life, the waning of time-honored traditions, and the societal implications of changes in gender roles and fashion. With a keen eye on the transformation of community structures, especially within the agricultural heartlands, we explore the potential for societal upheaval and the resilience required in times of adversity. This episode culminates with a contemplation of Christian eschatology, discussing the tribulation, the second coming, and the puzzle of faith in the modern world. Join us for this episode and emerge with a renewed perspective on the world around you and the world to come.
Ever pondered the vastness of the universe and the fleeting nature of our mortal coil? Come take a journey with me, Arlo Johnson, and my guest as we unwrap the mysteries of existence and the biblical vision of a new heaven and a new earth. Our conversation spans the impermanence of the present world, the grand scale of divine architecture as envisioned in Revelation, and the inclusive nature of salvation. We ask not just about the size of God's city, but the weight of our choices in a world where life is but a precursor to eternity.
Transitioning from celestial to societal, we examine the seismic shifts in family life, the waning of time-honored traditions, and the societal implications of changes in gender roles and fashion. With a keen eye on the transformation of community structures, especially within the agricultural heartlands, we explore the potential for societal upheaval and the resilience required in times of adversity. This episode culminates with a contemplation of Christian eschatology, discussing the tribulation, the second coming, and the puzzle of faith in the modern world. Join us for this episode and emerge with a renewed perspective on the world around you and the world to come.
Good afternoon. This is Arlo Johnson, coming to you from Vernon, british Columbia, at about 3 pm on Saturday, the 24th of February. Hope everything's finding you well and that things are okay where you are. So I started thinking about a couple of things, and one of them was the idea you know that things are permanent and all this stuff and nothing changes. And you know. It really really is not true. Everything changes really does.
Speaker 1:
But what I'm going to mention and God says in I think it's in Revelation or someplace that I make everything new. I make a new heaven and a new earth, and in the new earth there will be no sea. That's quite a bit to swallow right there. I mentioned this before. I didn't pay really much attention to that and I don't think most people do. I'm going to create a new heaven and a new earth. That means that this is not permanent. We're on a temporary deal and that's got to resonate somehow. After all, we don't own anything. We're just here and we're here for just a short period of time. Now, when God says I create a new heaven and a new earth, he doesn't say what kind of an earth bigger earth, smaller earth, whatever but there will be no sea. It's like you got to look at some clues here to figure out what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:
In the book of Revelation it's discussed in chapter 20 or something like that, verse 20, I think it's called chapter 20, that the city of God that Jesus said that he's building and that it will descend on this planet. Now, right, there is. You've got to stop and say, well, now I believe everything that God says and what Jesus said. I believe every single word of it. The only thing I've got to understand is what he's saying. And this city of God is so large, is so big that it wouldn't fit In this planet we live on now. It wouldn't fit in the continental United States, from the Canadian border to the Caribbean Sea or not the Caribbean Sea, but the Gulf couldn't fit. It'd be hanging over over the Gulf. Now, according to the size of this planet, and this planet is not that big, it really isn't 4,000 mile diameter or a radius 8,000 mile diameter, and so it won't fit on this planet. Never, never. God never said it won't fit. He just said this is the planet, the city that I'm going to bring down. I don't know it's going to be the city of God. He didn't say where it was going to land.
Speaker 1:
Now there are those who have done calculations on this, and I had. Well, I still got it. I guess a couple pages long Earth would take what size the earth has to be for that city to sit on a flat plane On this planet? The north and south gates would be 70, 70 years over, 70 miles off the surface because of the curvature of the earth. It's such a big city that on this planet it's too big for this planet.
Speaker 1:
Now when he says I'm going to create a new heaven and a new earth and there'll be no more seat, well, where's the water going to go then? I mean, I don't know. But they said that this planet would have to increase in size three by 366 times what it is now in volume. It'll be the biggest planet, biggest thing in the universe. Now if that's spread out like that, where would the original water go to? It would just be thinned right out, so it wouldn't have any. That's the idea that the earth is going to end up being purified by fire, the whole planet.
Speaker 1:
Now think in your mind this whole planet would be one big burning ball purifying itself, because God is pure and he can't come to a planet that has been buried in sinful things or whatever. He can't be, that it has to be brand new, perfectly pure, and I guess he decides that he's having the main. It's going to be the main house in the universe. It's going to be the big place and obviously that happens. It's going to be big, big. Now, why would it be that big? Why, why does it have to be that big? Well, for one thing, to handle the city that he's developing. But the other thing is, of all these people that could be, the more I think about it, is that God is capable of doing whatever, and he might make a way for a lot more people to be saved in different levels and different things, whatever.
Speaker 1:
Maybe so many in the city of God. There's so many outside the city of God, in certain ways, terms, whatever he says that his will, his wish, is that none will perish. Well, I think there will be those who are parents, because those who just absolutely, you know, will not accept him in any terms, so they would have to perish. But it's such a mind-boggling thing to me that people hold a human race wonders around get up this morning and have something to eat and go on, go to bed, get up, get up, lay down again. They don't. They don't think about things like that. Like I mean, god is plainly saying that this is temporary. This is temporary. You're on a temporary planet for a reason. Make up your mind which one you're going to choose. Well, I'm giving you a chance to be a permanent person. Right now you're not. You're not a permanent person because you, you're born on this planet as a Physical person and you wear out and you die.
Speaker 1:
During that period, you have the opportunity to make a decision greater than yourself by far, and I have to say that I learned I didn't learn it, I, I knew it somehow when I was about 15 years old and I remember that plainly that I said to myself, you know, I was wondering about things like that at that age and I said you know, it's got to be that I'm here to make a decision about something, and I imagine I knew it was a decision about God and who God was. Because of my 15, I've been going to church and Sunday school and stuff like that for years. So I guess you know, I imagine that's why I'm talking like this today. That's because I Went to Sunday school and buggy me and my pony and whatever by myself. So it must have been a reason for it. I don't know, but I'm quite sure there was and I'm quite glad it was.
Speaker 1:
I mean, I I realized sometimes that Things have happened to me in my life, good and bad, and I guess some of them are Training deals or something. They were pretty tough. But anyway, the thing is I I Want to leave a message to you today that I think really a person has to buckle down and realize how temporary we are, very temporary, I mean. You know you can be here one day, gone the next, it seems like, and that most happens every day to someone. I see you all around me, but I hear you realize that that comes to somebody's death. For instance, let's say, did you hear George died? Oh no, is that right? Oh, my gosh, george died. When did he die? Uh, the day before yesterday. Oh, that's too bad. Oh, yeah, uh, yeah, uh, could you pass the potatoes please?
Speaker 1:
I said, well, as long as people care about that, because it doesn't happen to them, it happens to someone else. I mean, that's what people think. I mean they don't think the. That's how the mind works, you know, and it it it well, I shouldn't say, imagine God laughs at the things that happen to people and what people do I'm quite sure he does and uh, to think that he went through all this trouble just to have sons.
Speaker 1:
That's the whole thing. There's no, no other reason for this world than everything else. God wanted sons and I think, uh, women, women are a little jealous at the fact that he wanted sons. Well, there's a good reason for that. God does not want two different sexes to live forever in his kingdom, to be fighting, battling and jealousy. Doesn't need it, doesn't want it, doesn't need the womb. There's no more births, and so the women will not be going to heaven as women or be reborn into his kingdom. It will be reborn the same as if I went there. They will be the same If I'm reborn. I'm not going to be the same as I am. It's going to be a different kind of person. What I've seen or read some places, that the sons of God will be like 20, 22 year old males roughly, and that's the age and whatever I guess most of them will look like. And so what's hard about that? You just go there. That's what you're reborn to. That too, same as the man, both reborn, not the same as they are on the planet Earth. But you can bet that there will be a lot of women who won't like anybody saying that, even if they know in their heart that that most likely is true.
Speaker 1:
I said to somebody today at noon looking around in the dining room and I said you know, there's no women wearing dresses in this room. There's no women basically doing their hair up, except there's a few that have a permanent or some kind. And I said they're all wearing pants, men, same as men. And I said I don't know, I guess it's handier. They think it's handier that way, like the only what they do is they pull their hair up in a bun at the back and put a rubber band around it and call it good. They all do that. Now how should they? All but 90%? And you know, when I grew up people, women especially they looked after themselves. They had curled up hair, stuff, whatever dresses and dressed up. And you know they were treated different too.
Speaker 1:
Yes, god even says that women are not to wear men's clothes.
Speaker 1:
I don't think too many people pay attention to that, do you?
Speaker 1:
You know? But it says there says don't do it, You're supposed to be separate and different, which you are. And now you're jealous of men. I want to prove that you're the same as men. Well, good, but that gets into me. It's such a common thing that now a woman with a dress looks out of place practically. It sure looks a lot better.
Speaker 1:
Anyway, things change. That's why the everything changes, and I don't think, I think, over the period of time that I've been around, I can't say that a lot of things have been changed with the better they're not. They've changed more. They've changed more for convenience or you know, style, I guess you could say, or whatever, but usually no, homes and families have not improved. That's why they've gone down. There's no more real families. Well, I mean, there's bound to be some, but on a scale is just.
Speaker 1:
You know, I see it in my own background, in my own families. We had big families when I grew up. Now they're just dispersed and gone. Most of them are not getting married anymore, they're living with each other or whatever. There's gays and there's whatever, and there's no big families anymore, none at all. I can go back out now, and which I'm going to do in April if I can make it and it's less and less and less about what I call a family community. Less and less and less, than the older people are just disappearing and the younger ones aren't doing the same. They don't keep the same kind of family Farming communities.
Speaker 1:
It's not as bad as in cities. Farming communities still try to have a family of some kind, I believe. I'm quite sure, because it's conducive to having a family. But I think we're seeing the last edges of family life, that's for sure. I've always visualized a thing where things get so bad that people revert back to, like the survival of the fittest. People just come and take whatever they want from anybody else and say to hell. And I think that will happen Because there's things happening already. We don't have the clue that we'd have a food shortage or something like that. It can happen. Things can certainly happen in this country too, sad to say.
Speaker 1:
But hopefully all this will be over in a short time because nothing's come up yet. The bell hasn't rang yet. When the bell rings, you know you've got seven years and that's the end of it. Bangal, I mean, that's seven years and that you're going to be in the tribulation when it starts. And you had to go through seven years. The first three and a half are supposed to be very good, because the anti-crisis is going to lie his way around and do all the stuff until he's got everybody where he wants them, and then he's going to put the hammer on and then it's the real tribulation. And once that's done, it's all finished. This earth part is all finished.
Speaker 1:
Christ comes back and puts a tamper on everything, rearranges everything for a thousand years, and if you're one of the ones who is resurrected at Tata's return, you'll be working under him, with him and for him. Not a bad job, a good job. Well, here's hoping to see you in the employment lineup. You never know. It's been offered. It's there for people to accept and it's hard for me to think how people can refuse. That's what's really hard. But anyway, time to go, time to say goodbye. I'll see you again in the meantime. God bless you.