1 Peter 1:1-12

Hey fellow journeyers, Ken and Steve here, inviting you into our lives for a laid-back yet earnest chat that's all about the highs and lows of walking with Christ. Ever found yourself chuckling through a sermon because the pastor hit a nerve, especially when it comes to those sneaky cravings for junk food? That's where we kick things off, sharing our own foibles, then pivot to a heart-to-heart on how to distinguish between just wearing the label 'Christian' and truly trekking as Christ followers. Our pastor's preference for the latter term really got us thinking, and we're eager to share those reflections with you.

Join us as we unfold the pages of 1 Peter, finding comfort and camaraderie with early Christians who stood firm against the gales of their time. Imagine our amusement when we hit a geographic speed bump, mistaking ancient Turkey for the vast continent of Asia—thankfully, we have Google to set us straight! We don't shy away from deeper waters, either; we dive into the symbolism of blood sprinkling and what it really means to be chosen by God. Laughter might be our default, but we promise there's a healthy dose of learning tucked in there, too.

Wrapping things up, we realize we've lingered a little too long on the opening verses of 1 Peter, but isn't that just the way with good conversation? We barely made it to verse 12, but that's the beauty of Scripture—it's so rich that you can't help but pause and ponder. So, while Steve apologizes for the tangents (which, let's be honest, you love us for), we both hope you'll come back for more next week. We promise to pick up right where we left off, continuing to discover the timeless relevance of this profound epistle, and sharing our journey, warts and all, with you in The Regular Guys Bible Study.

Transcript

Ken: 0:12

You are listening to the Regular Guys Bible Study Podcast, the Bible study for regular guys by regular guys. We are your hosts, Ken and Steve, and we are just regular guys studying the Bible together.

Steve: 0:25

Not theologians, I'm not, so we are just regular guys studying the Bible together, not theologians. I'm not so sure we're regular guys.

Ken: 0:32

Um, yeah, okay, why aren't we regular guys Steve?

Steve: 0:36

We're irregular guys.

Ken: 0:38

Are you saying Because we're weird, okay, we're a little strange, but you know what? Everybody's weird yeah. I'm not referring to regular, as in your coffee trip every morning actually right now I'm not a regular guy, that's that's been a problem lately, steve, I need to. What's going on?

Steve: 0:58

well, I think work stress, isn't it?

Ken: 1:01

no, I'm not that stressed from work really. I should be stressed.

Steve: 1:06

You're stressed because you're not stressed.

Ken: 1:09

No, I think I just haven't been eating very well, honestly. Why are you doing that? I'm lazy. All right, it takes an effort. Like you know, we have carrots at home and I'll see them there, and I think I wonder if those are still good.

Steve: 1:31

You wait for them to go bad and then you throw them out.

Ken: 1:34

I don't feel like checking, I'll get potato chips instead. I'm not a big potato chips person, but I am a corn chip. You know a good yeah, I prefer corn chips too.

Ken: 1:48

Yeah, the heb, especially those heb uh sea salt, you know that's why we don't keep chips in the house I keep telling page, I don't want junk food in the house because she and she says, well, just don't eat it, you don't have to eat all of it. That's my wife voice, by the way Then who will eat it? It's just the two of you, I know. But she has this ability to like, take two chips and eat them. Oh, no way, or she'll bake this thing of cookies and she'll eat two cookies, or she'll bake this thing of cookies and she'll eat two cookies, and then I'm okay, I'm just going to eat this fifth one and that's it, and I don't know. It's really frustrating, but hey, that's not what we're here to talk about. Steve, we are, as regular guys, we know what I would call us regular christ follower christians, as regular as christ follower christians can be maybe and do you know why I say christ follower?

Steve: 2:59

christians, because there's a lot of people that claim to be christians that aren't really Christ followers.

Ken: 3:05

Yes, and our church, our pastor, uses that term a lot actually, yes, he does Christ followers instead of Christians, because Christians these days, who knows what that means?

Steve: 3:15

Yeah, so In fact someone asked me that question just Friday night.

Ken: 3:22

That wasn't a question, so I don't know what question they asked.

Steve: 3:25

They asked are you guys Christian? No, it was. Do you go to church? And they said what denomination? And then I was just kind of frozen. I was like, well, it's a Bible-based church, it's non-denomination. Oh, me too. Yeah, Okay, yeah.

Ken: 3:47

Okay, yeah, okay. Well, I don't know what that means really. Yeah, but that was a good story. Yes, yes, it wasn't. That was what we call a potato. Steve, I think you're right. I think you're right, all right. Well, we are studying 1 Peter. This is our first discussion on 1 Peter. It is Steve. Did you do any research on 1 Peter? Just the little paragraph, that's really all I did too, because I thought that was sufficient.

Steve: 4:22

It's very similar to James.

Ken: 4:25

It is, and you know what. It seems like they were written about the same time. It does feel that way. I mean, according to 1 Peter, I think James might have been written a little bit before 1 Peter.

Steve: 4:37

According to this, I think they're saying James was written around 55, if I recall, and this is mid-60s and this is mid-60s and this is mid-60s, but they were both to persecuted Christians.

Ken: 4:50

Yes, they were both to the same. It seems like they were both to a similar group, if not the exact same group. So do you want me to read this little introduction paragraph? Do you want to read it?

Steve: 5:09

I'll read it. It doesn't really matter, I'll read it.

Ken: 5:11

So this is from the ESV. There's a little introduction. This is not the Word of God, this is just an introduction of historical, some historical context around 1 Peter.

Ken: 5:24

And it says of historical context around 1 Peter. And it says the readers of the apostle Peter's letter were confused and discouraged by the persecution they were encountering because of their faith. Peter exhorted them to stand strong, repeatedly reminding them of Christ's example, the riches of their inheritance in him and the hope of his returning again to take them to heaven. Peter explained how Christians should respond when they suffer because of their beliefs. Called the apostle of hope, peter's primary message is to trust God, live obediently, no matter what your circumstances, and keep your hope fixed on God's ultimate promise of deliverance. Suffering is to be expected, but it is temporary and yields great blessings for those who remain steadfast. Peter probably wrote this letter in the mid-60s AD.

Steve: 6:19

So how old would he be? Because I think he was probably younger than Jesus.

Ken: 6:23

I would think he was 20 maybe, so he'd be when. So now this is just being he'd be like in his 50s then, and it'd be yeah 50 yeah, 55, maybe something like that.

Steve: 6:37

Yep about our age steve, well, yours, I'm not that old, well I'm older, you're not.

Steve: 6:48

I'm 52. Gosh, don't rush it, okay, sorry. All right, I'm going to read the chapter, the whole thing, no, just part of it. Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who are elect exiles of the dispersion in Pontus, galatia, cappadocia, why don't you go ahead and read this? In Asia and Bithynia, according to the foreknowledge of God, the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ, for sprinkling with his blood, may grace and peace be multiplied to you. Wow, easy for me to say it wasn't. Well, yeah, it was pretty bad.

Ken: 7:40

It's okay. It started you know the names are understandable and then it got you. It just got worse.

Steve: 7:45

It started you know the names are understandable and then it got you sad. It just got worse.

Ken: 7:48

I got tongue-tied and then I started crying Okay, where are these places, ken? Okay, I'm going to read it again because I was laughing.

Steve: 7:58

I want to hear how you say the names. I was laughing so hard.

Ken: 8:00

I think I distracted everybody from being able to hear it.

Steve: 8:04

That's why I couldn't read it.

Ken: 8:06

All right Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who are elect exiles of the dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia.

Steve: 8:17

Ah, that was fake laughter.

Ken: 8:24

Oh, yeah, that was Cappadocia, Asia, Bethania. According to the foreknowledge of God, the Father, in the sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with His blood, may grace and peace be multiplied to you. I did it no better than you.

Steve: 8:51

I think you almost did exactly what I did.

Ken: 8:54

I think I did Gosh, okay, do you know? Sometimes when I read this, especially on the morning, that we're going to do the podcast, I try to read it out loud, and I did not do that this morning.

Steve: 9:12

You would have certainly asked me to read this first part. Then I might have at least.

Ken: 9:17

Yeah, that would have been. I would have known what to expect. Did you look up where these places are? They're in the Bible. You didn't look, jesus, I did not look.

Steve: 9:29

So you have no idea where these regions are.

Ken: 9:37

I think these regions are all east of Jerusalem and South of Jerusalem Wrong, all right, where are they?

Steve: 9:52

They are all up near the Black Sea and basically are present-day Turkey. There's one or two that might not be present-day Turkey, but it's all basically right up in there. So they're north, they are north.

Ken: 10:06

Okay, did not know that.

Steve: 10:09

And I didn't know that there was ever a place called Asia. That was just this tiny little thing instead of all of Asia.

Ken: 10:19

Oh yeah, when it says Asia, I thought it meant Asia, no.

Steve: 10:23

Like it's a tiny little chunk up there by the Black Sea. Really.

Ken: 10:27

Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, Huh. You know what, Steve? I learned something today and we should call it done. You know what? We're not going to do that, and because? Not because it's not good that we learned something, but because you know we got to keep going. But I appreciate that you look that up that's interesting.

Steve: 10:48

Is that why some people take offense if you call them asian, because it's not really representative of asia. What isn't asian? One of those piece non-pc terms now is it?

Ken: 11:03

I don't think so. Oriental is? Oh yeah, because an oriental is like a rug. An oriental rug it's like an object. Yeah, it's an object, it is not a people, but that's been like that for a long time.

Steve: 11:23

But people that come from the Orient aren't Oriental.

Ken: 11:27

No, that is considered one of those things you should not say, steve, and please forgive us if we're offending anybody. We're trying to learn. Actually we're not. Yeah, this isn't intentional, that was not humorous, so but. But yeah, so Oriental is considered offensive to a lot of Asian individuals, and I do believe there are. I do think you're right, though Asian is starting to become a little, because it's such a big area, I think it's considered it's also like the most populous populated area on the planet.

Ken: 12:15

Right, but so when you think of Asia, you don't. When you think of Asians, do you think of Indians?

Steve: 12:24

No.

Ken: 12:24

Because India is in Asia, rightia right?

Steve: 12:27

well, not this asia it's only a small part of turkey.

Ken: 12:30

No it's the same spot, it just grew.

Steve: 12:33

Oh, they added water and it's like one of those sponges yep, it's one of those growing sponges, all right, all right.

Ken: 12:41

just for those listeners who are confused, that part was a joke. It wasn't really one of those sponges where you add water to and it grows. Oh, all right, this is. We are getting so far down.

Steve: 12:59

We are really off track, we are.

Ken: 13:01

I don't know what's going on, but we got to get on track. Okay, focus, focus, steve Focus, focus. Is there anything you want to track? We are. I don't know what's going on, but we got to get on track. Okay, focus, focus, steve, focus, focus. Is there anything you want to say in there?

Ken: 13:09

that was it okay I just wanted to point out where these places were I have some questions here oh, it's, it's these things that we just read and pass by and we don't pay any attention to, like in the sanctification of the spirit for obedience to jesus christ and for sprinkling with his blood. What does that mean? All right, first of all, sanctification of the spirit but is that?

Steve: 13:43

isn't this talking about Peter himself? Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who are elect exiles of those places, according to the foreknowledge of God, the Father? No, this is talking about the elect chosen in all these places about the elect chosen in all these places in the sanctification of the spirit. Oh, maybe. Obedience to jesus christ for sprinkling with his blood. May grace and peace be multiplied to you. I'm not sure it could be either. Who is that? Is he talking about himself?

Ken: 14:18

I think he must be talking about, or is he talking about the?

Steve: 14:20

people. Well, it feels like he's doing it to provide sanctification of the Spirit and to provide guidance.

Ken: 14:31

I think they've been sanctified by the Spirit already.

Steve: 14:34

Well, he's providing guidance for obedience to Jesus Christ.

Ken: 14:40

The guidance Guidance Another rabbit trail, okay, yeah, okay, I can see that.

Steve: 14:49

For sprinkling with his blood.

Ken: 14:52

In sanctification of the spirit. Okay, I think he is talking about himself. He is sanctified by the spirit and this is for the obedience, for obedience to Jesus Christ and for sprinkling with his blood.

Steve: 15:09

Which feels like an Old Testament reference to me. Like of the Old Testament sacrifices, they sprinkled the blood on stuff.

Ken: 15:18

What did they do with it? Did they sprinkle?

Steve: 15:21

I thought it was.

Ken: 15:22

Maybe they did.

Steve: 15:23

Someplace they sprinkled. Did they sprinkle? I thought it was Maybe they did. Someplace they sprinkled.

Ken: 15:26

Did they sprinkle it on people?

Steve: 15:29

I don't think so.

Ken: 15:30

Like they put it on the doorpost in Egypt.

Steve: 15:36

That's a good question.

Ken: 15:37

I don't know the answer to it? I don't know the answer either.

Steve: 15:40

But I thought they sprinkled it like on the altar.

Ken: 15:43

I mean, it's gushing off the altar too. I don't know, maybe I don't know. I just don't know, steve, maybe they dipped their hand and sprinkled it as some kind of ceremonial thing. But the blood? We know what the blood symbolizes, right? Yes, the blood symbolizes the forgiveness of sin. Okay, right, do you agree with?

Steve: 16:06

that I agree.

Ken: 16:07

Okay, so he's referencing that, at any rate for sprinkling with his blood, so I guess that would be for forgiveness of sin. May grace and peace be multiplied to you.

Steve: 16:28

You know I never greet anyone like this. The farthest I ever go is hey, what's up? Hmm okay.

Ken: 16:38

Yeah, that's true. I need to work on my greetings, especially in your emails yeah. Yeah, that'd be good to greet people like that in emails.

Steve: 16:47

They would never read the rest of the email they would not Too long, didn't read.

Ken: 16:51

Yeah, all right. Why don't we move on, steve? We should Do. You want me to read this one?

Steve: 16:59

I guess it's my turn again, since you botched it. After I botched it, all right, go ahead. Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again, to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled and unfading, kept in heaven. For you who, by God's power, are being guarded Kind of Pauline there, with the length of that sentence, if you have been grieved by various trials so that the tested genuineness of your faith, more precious than gold that perishes through, we are not going to be able to read tonight, oh my gosh.

Ken: 17:59

What is going on?

Steve: 18:00

More precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls. Obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls. Concerning this salvation, the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories. It was revealed to them that they were serving, not themselves but you, in the things that have now been announced to you through those who preach the good news to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels long to look. Now, if you ever needed a reason to read the chapter ahead of time, or read along with us, I think you've just experienced it.

Ken: 19:13

Yeah that's true. And when the prophets prophesied, when they prophesied, Steve Prophesied.

Steve: 19:23

I always have trouble with that word.

Ken: 19:29

Oh, my goodness.

Steve: 19:31

And you know what? I even wrote it on the side, but my notes weren't showing Prophesied.

Ken: 19:40

So you know you struggle with that word I do.

Steve: 19:42

That's just a normal struggle. Yeah, and every time I see that word.

Ken: 19:46

Well, that's understandable. Every time I see the word epitome, I read epitome. I have to read it twice, because the first time my eyes see it, it's the epitome. See it, it's the epitome.

Steve: 20:14

And also with colonel the uh, colonel, not like a colonel of corn, but like a general a colonel in an army, right?

Ken: 20:18

so all right, wow, wow, are we ever going to finish this steve? I, I don't know. All right, this is a really long chapter. It's going to be the way we're going through it, all right. So you said, okay, you just mentioned your notes. What notes do you have for this section?

Steve: 20:37

Surprisingly, not a ton. So I point out to verse 7, which is so that the tested genuineness of your faith, more precious than gold that perishes though it's tested by fire, may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Okay, the question I had does this apply to us or only those persecuted for their faith?

Ken: 21:16

I mean, I think it applies to us if we are tested or if we are persecuted for our faith. Have you ever been persecuted for your faith, steve?

Steve: 21:25

I don't think I have but I disagree with your answer. Really, yeah, all right, why? I think our behavior and attitudes in any sort of trial should reflect our trust in him.

Ken: 21:40

Okay, you're right, you're right, you are right, steve.

Steve: 21:46

Wow, he said it three times.

Ken: 21:47

it must be true well, he didn't show up, it didn't happen. Um, no, you're right. Yes, I agree that. Yes, yes, yes, that's all I have to say. So you failed, I failed, yes. You failed the question All right, what else do you got there, steve.

Steve: 22:13

Well, they have neither seen him nor do they now see him, but they have faith that they will see him.

Ken: 22:21

Let's see, where is that?

Steve: 22:22

That is verse 8.

Ken: 22:25

Yes, though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

Steve: 22:41

See, now, that part I definitely think applies to us Because we've not seen him and we don't see him now. But the part I kind of disagree with and I think maybe Peter's just being super optimistic is the rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory. I don't, I guess maybe I'm just not expressive enough, but I don't feel like I do that part all that well.

Ken: 23:13

Um, yeah, yeah.

Steve: 23:19

Wow, that is great feedback Would you like to expound on that?

Ken: 23:29

Yep, it's sort of like the what's the show King of the Hill, when they sit there and they drink their beer on the?

Steve: 23:35

side of the road.

Ken: 23:35

Yep, yep, that's what I was doing. See, yep, yep, and we're in Texas, so it works. Yeah, why is that, steve? Why don't we have this inexpressible joy?

Steve: 23:53

well, maybe we do have it, it's just inexpressible okay, hold on, hold on, let's see.

Ken: 24:04

Though you do not see him now, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory.

Steve: 24:14

I think you could take that word two ways.

Ken: 24:17

I don't think it means the way I just used it. Yes.

Steve: 24:23

I think it's more than can be expressed, not that it can't be expressed at all.

Ken: 24:28

So you know what I believe that we should take this and kind of say something is wrong with us, that we're not filled with that inexpressible joy. You know, when I accepted Christ I was filled with that inexpressible joy and sorrow. It was a really weird thing in my like sorrow for my what was coming, because I had to, I basically changed my whole friend group.

Steve: 25:07

Stopped being a bully at school. I wasn't a bully?

Ken: 25:11

Yeah right, Look at me, Steve. Who could I bully, Anyway? So what happened to that inexpressible joy?

Steve: 25:31

I don't know.

Ken: 25:34

We have let I think we have let the world and just the grind of life. Zap that joy right out of us. I'm going to zap that joy right out of us. I'm gonna zap that joy right out of your life. I'm gonna do I don't think that's the song. No, it's not the song. No, okay, but it fit A little bit.

Steve: 26:03

So I have one more thing for this section, but it's in the next paragraph. Did you have anything for the first paragraph?

Ken: 26:09

Well, I had something above, let's see, all right. So you know he talks about our inheritance. So you know he talks about our inheritance, which some people dwell on all the time as believers.

Steve: 26:39

Like the future in heaven? Yes, aren't we supposed to, at least in some respects, I know.

Ken: 26:47

Always look towards heaven. I think we are supposed to, at least in some respects I know. Always look towards. I think we are supposed to. I never find myself dwelling on the inheritance that awaits from that awaits me. Why is that? Is that wrong of me?

Steve: 27:04

so me personally, the times that I think about heaven are when I'm struggling down here. I try to put it in perspective and be like oh well, this is just now and for a tiny blink of an eye compared to you know, in heaven, I'm not going to care at all about this. So why should I care now?

Ken: 27:31

yeah, I don't do that.

Steve: 27:35

I should. I think I did that several times in the last week you know?

Ken: 27:39

I mean, I do think about the when I'm, if I'm going through something that seems hard to me or unfair to me, or wish it were different. You don't really want to do it. I do think about you know what my life on this earth is so tiny compared to eternity, but I don't really think about what that eternity is. When I'm saying that, I do just realize that this little thing is not important I noticed you were pointing down now.

Steve: 28:21

I don't think this is appropriate conversation, ken, so steve steve, just stop right there.

Ken: 28:29

Oh, my goodness, I thought we were regular guys all right anyway. Um, and there's one other thing I noticed already. So the first book we studied as the regular guys bible study study was John.

Steve: 28:47

The second one, no, that was the second book.

Ken: 28:51

What.

Steve: 28:52

Didn't we do like?

Ken: 28:56

Oh, we did Ephesians. Ephesians, you're right. Okay, I don't remember Ephesians, I don't either. And how we did it? Maybe we, okay. Anyway, I can't remember about Ephesians, but I know that the last three, john, james and now Peter, very quickly in their letters go to trials. John and James both talked about rejoicing, having joy through trials, because blah, blah, blah, you know, god put you through these. And here we go again, in the very first chapter. Let's see In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials so that the tested genuineness of your faith, more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire Sorry, I've got to burp, no wonder I can't read, I'm burping May be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. So already these three different authors, john, james and Peter, all have written about the rejoice in suffering, and I know Paul does it In some places. I don't remember if he did it in Ephesians, if he talked about joy and suffering in.

Ken: 30:30

Ephesians yeah, I don't remember either, but I found that to be interesting.

Steve: 30:35

That is a very insightful thing you stumbled across, Ken.

Ken: 30:41

I can't tell if you're making fun of me, Steve. No, I'm serious, All right thanks.

Steve: 30:47

I didn't catch that, all right.

Ken: 30:49

All right, well, that's all I had for that paragraph. And then you said you had some notes for the bottom one.

Steve: 30:57

So that service I was at Friday where somebody asked me about going to church was actually the first part of a friend of ours' daughter having her bat mitzvah, bat mitzvah, bat mitzvah I don't know how you say it so they're Jewish, they're Jewish and we went to a Jewish service that night. Okay, and as I was reading this last paragraph, I was thinking those guys really need to hear this. I was thinking those guys really need to hear this Because it's all about their prophets and all that stuff that they just refuse to see.

Ken: 31:39

You know what I think would have happened if you had been Peter at that point.

Steve: 31:48

I would have stood up and preached it, yeah probably so why didn't you, steve? Well, I didn't think of it until later, when.

Ken: 31:55

I was reading the chapter.

Steve: 31:57

That's not entirely true. I did pray for them while I was there in the service.

Ken: 32:06

Yeah, so I'm not really getting on to you, steve, but I do wonder if I'm not. I'm not persecuted for my faith because you don't do anything. I don't share it openly.

Steve: 32:25

I did wear a tie that had the books of the Bible on it, and most of them were not Old Testament books.

Ken: 32:31

Whoa, you were so bold. Wow, how many people came to Christ for that.

Steve: 32:37

I had a lot of people say I like your tie.

Ken: 32:39

Oh good.

Steve: 32:41

And the mother of the girl I said is this gonna offend anyone? She goes no, why I'm like? Because there's a lot of books on here you guys don't read.

Ken: 32:51

Yeah, a lot of these books we say that you killed Jesus.

Steve: 33:00

Ken, we all killed Jesus.

Ken: 33:02

We all did Alright. Do you have anything else in that section? I don't. I don't have anything in that, okay.

Steve: 33:14

How are we doing on?

Ken: 33:14

time. We have 33 minutes. I think we got some time, if we're not stupid in the last section.

Steve: 33:22

Well, that'll be easy, because I have no notes for the last section.

Ken: 33:24

Really.

Steve: 33:26

Well, I suffered from the whole start at the top and read through it.

Ken: 33:31

So I mean, we can stop here um, if you want, I do have some things I could talk about let's go through it and no, let's, let's stop here I say we stop stop here. We're gonna stop here, but I'm gonna talk about that second paragraph a little bit, because, um, he does go into this thing about the prophets and that they prophesied I'm sorry, prophesied, as you correctly pronunciated it.

Steve: 34:04

I think you mean enunciate.

Ken: 34:07

Enunciate. Anyway, it says I'm going to read this last paragraph again. It says concerning this salvation, the prophets who prophesied about the grace that was to be yours searched and inquired carefully, inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating when he predicted the sufferings of Christ and the subsequent glories. It was revealed to them that they were serving, not themselves but you, in the things that they have now, in the things that have now been announced to you through those who preach the good news to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven, things into which angels longed long to. So he's talking about the old prophets that foretold the coming Christ, and you know the way he presents it is that they were inquiring about when is this?

Steve: 35:11

What does it mean?

Ken: 35:12

What does it mean? When is this Christ coming, Inquiring what person or time the Spirit of Christ in them was indicating. So who is this that is the Christ, and when is this going to happen? They knew when they prophesied these things. They knew who they were prophesying about. And then it says it was revealed to them that they were serving, not themselves, a future generation. So they knew so. According to Peter, these prophets knew that this the Christ that was coming, would not be coming in their generation, which I'm not surprised about.

Ken: 36:05

You know, I was thinking when I first read that. You know why does he say that? But every other time a prophet talked about something that was going to happen, it was now and it was like for the next seven years there will be famine, and then seven years after that it. They had these times. God would reveal times to them. But then when he talks about the coming Christ and the suffering and his glory, there was never any kind of a time around it.

Steve: 36:44

Doesn't Daniel give some times? What does he say, is it 14 generations, or something like that?

Ken: 36:53

Oh, I don't know.

Steve: 36:55

I thought there was something on Daniel like that. Why don't you look it up, steve? I wouldn't even know where to start, other than Daniel. Well, I know Daniel's a big book.

Ken: 37:05

There's a Google thing called Google Daniel's a big book. There's a Google thing called Google Daniel. Let's see predictions on Christ.

Steve: 37:29

All right?

Ken: 37:29

Well, look at that. Was jesus arrival accurately predicted in the bible?

Steve: 37:38

um and the messianic timetable according to daniel the prophet.

Ken: 37:47

All right. So Daniel actually knew it was going to be much later. The angel Gabriel gave Daniel a prophecy pinpointing when the Messiah would arrive. Let's see, let's see. I don't see where it says how long that would be no.

Steve: 38:18

there's something about 77.

Ken: 38:26

62 sevens, 62 sevens. What's 62 times seven? Hey Siri, what is 62 times seven?

Steve: 38:37

Well, here it says, but here Gabriel was using a play upon words in the Hebrew text, pointing out that, insofar as Messiah's kingdom was concerned, it was not 70 years, but 77's of years, a total of 490 years.

Ken: 38:59

Okay, and then oh, wow, and then that was in 538 BC. So, wow, it's like really close. That means it was like according to that, if all that, if all those calculations are right, it's like 14 years off.

Steve: 39:21

Well, 14 years off, of what? Well, I know I know it's in the right ballpark. That's pretty impressive.

Ken: 39:30

So, anyway, the prophets knew that Christ wasn't coming now. And then it says things by the Holy Spirit. Hold on. I think it's talking about the apostles. Now it was revealed to them that they were serving Okay, not that part. And the things that have now been announced to you through those who preach the good news to you by the Holy Spirit, sent from heaven, things into which the angels long to look, what does that mean?

Steve: 40:15

I think the angels have been waiting for Christ to come since the beginning of time.

Ken: 40:22

But it's things into which angels it not, but it says things into which angels long to look in the present tense. I'm going to check a different translation.

Steve: 40:40

real quick Things that have now been announced to you through those who preached past tense. The good news to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven things into which angels long to look.

Ken: 40:59

This is what the NLT says. By the way, it is all so wonderful that even the angels are eagerly watching these things. That kind of makes sense. I'll go to an niv which is a more respected even angels long to look into these things, I. But I kind of like the.

Steve: 41:20

I think the nlt might have the right but it gives me a picture of a bunch of angels sitting there eating popcorn, watching a movie as time plays out down here.

Ken: 41:33

They didn't have that back then. So, they might've had popcorn, but I know they didn't have movies. They did have plays, I guess. At any rate, um the angels are excited about. What's going on is what. I think, that's talking about. All right, so I think we're going to stop there. We only got through chapter, I mean verse 12 of 1 Peter, mainly because we're buffoons. Steve, I think you're right and I apologize to everyone for our buffoonery, but I hope I don't. Man, you don't even care about our listening audience, do you? I do?

Steve: 42:26

I just think they probably got a chuckle out of it.

Ken: 42:28

They might have and I hope they did.

Steve: 42:31

Or they rolled their eyes and said don't ever download this podcast again.

Ken: 42:35

Unfollow. That's okay. Whatever it is, it is. But you know what? I hope you will stick back. Come back with us for the rest of chapter one at least. We're going to start in verse 13 next week, see you then, yep, I forgot to hit the outro, steve, so it's a little delayed, but now we can still talk and do stuff and act like we're carrying on a conversation as we're leaving.

Ken: 43:10

Oh, that's a good idea, okay, hey, everybody, thanks for hanging in there. The Regular Guys. Bible Study is a Chasm LLC production. All rights reserved.