Ever find yourself on tiptoe at a concert, struggling to see the stage over a sea of heads? Grab your platform shoes and join us as we swap stories about the highs and lows of being height-challenged in crowded places, all while taking a stroll through the vibrant streets of St. Louis with our latest guest, Braden – a local influencer who's shaking up the scene in the most unexpected ways. This episode is a roller coaster of laughter and candid reflections as we peel back the layers of content creation, personal growth, and the quirks of our beloved city.
Imagine attempting to squeeze a lifetime of high school memories into every new adult conversation—awkward, right? Well, we're tearing up that outdated script and getting real about our journeys since those cap-and-gown days. From the country music dreams we never knew we had, to the fashion faux pas that keep us grounded, we're unearthing the raw and often hilarious truths behind our personal narratives. Braden, voted Influencer of the Year in St. Louis, brings his own tales to the mic, sharing the bittersweet moments of forging an authentic path in the digital spotlight.
Dive into the heart of St. Louis with us as we navigate the tricky terrain of working with local businesses. While brands may sometimes steal the show, our commitment to stoking the flames of the local creator economy is unshakeable. Whether we're ruminating on the potential of food truck gardens or fanning the excitement for rollerskating in Forest Park, this episode is brimming with ideas, inspirations, and a fierce love for the community that's made us who we are. Tune in for an unhinged conversation where creativity meets real life, and where every laugh is matched by a nod to the hustle it takes to make our mark.
Ever find yourself on tiptoe at a concert, struggling to see the stage over a sea of heads? Grab your platform shoes and join us as we swap stories about the highs and lows of being height-challenged in crowded places, all while taking a stroll through the vibrant streets of St. Louis with our latest guest, Braden – a local influencer who's shaking up the scene in the most unexpected ways. This episode is a roller coaster of laughter and candid reflections as we peel back the layers of content creation, personal growth, and the quirks of our beloved city.
Imagine attempting to squeeze a lifetime of high school memories into every new adult conversation—awkward, right? Well, we're tearing up that outdated script and getting real about our journeys since those cap-and-gown days. From the country music dreams we never knew we had, to the fashion faux pas that keep us grounded, we're unearthing the raw and often hilarious truths behind our personal narratives. Braden, voted Influencer of the Year in St. Louis, brings his own tales to the mic, sharing the bittersweet moments of forging an authentic path in the digital spotlight.
Dive into the heart of St. Louis with us as we navigate the tricky terrain of working with local businesses. While brands may sometimes steal the show, our commitment to stoking the flames of the local creator economy is unshakeable. Whether we're ruminating on the potential of food truck gardens or fanning the excitement for rollerskating in Forest Park, this episode is brimming with ideas, inspirations, and a fierce love for the community that's made us who we are. Tune in for an unhinged conversation where creativity meets real life, and where every laugh is matched by a nod to the hustle it takes to make our mark.
There's always like an angry guy that's like 5'3 and he's like sorry man, I can't see, I can't see and I'm like, oh, dude, my bad man, you know, pick him up, put him in front of me.
Speaker 2:Pick him up.
Speaker 1:Like he's a toddler Bro, I got you Like, like I. I.
Speaker 2:Bro, I got you.
Speaker 1:Bro, I stand with my short community, I stand with my.
Speaker 2:You can't. You got to sit crisscross applesauce with the short community. This is my degree. As you can see, it is really, really tattered Now, oh, wow, I just hit the mic. Wow, it's just this terrible. Um, this is my degree, my overly tattered beat up degree. Do you see how crappy that is? You see that the, the, the, oh, my God, what. This is the most chaotic episode ever. I can't even I can't even get through the intro, bro Dude what just happened. This is my degree. God, this is my.
Speaker 1:This is my degree.
Speaker 2:Welcome to the. That did it, that did it. You see that that throw did it.
Speaker 1:Dang Wait, can you pick it up? Can you pick it up? Yeah, we're going to have to get you more adult books, because these kid books they're not holding down the table.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that did it. Oh, that did it. Right there, that toss. The inside of the degree is actually separating from the actual like case. I've done it, dude. Wow, oh, it's separating. Should I just go ahead and do the do the honors? It's already coming apart.
Speaker 1:It's been devalued. I mean, once Canva came out, your degree became pointless.
Speaker 2:And now, Degree destruction, asmr. For those of you that have tuned into both the audio and the show, this guy is not new. We did a live episode actually right out this window. I'm not even kidding, it's right there.
Speaker 1:But for those of you that don't know who are you, my name is Brad and new year knew me, so this is going to be a different version of the podcast. What? Oh sorry, Brad and STL.
Speaker 2:Anytime somebody says that, I get scared because like that's like a preface for what?
Speaker 1:I mean you know it could be a preface for what's to come in the next few weeks that's, you know, taking years to get here that on the next time, you know, a few months down the road when I'm on your podcast again, maybe, hopefully kind of that, I can talk about what is going on. Right now I have no idea. Okay, I'm confused.
Speaker 2:So you're the intro. This guy is a content creator, a foodie, a vlogger. Actually, you were influencer of the year yes, yes, 2022. Yeah Voted influencer of the year. That's a pretty big title.
Speaker 1:It is especially like when I came into this not even wanting to really be an influencer. Yeah, I'm just like I live in a really cool city and I'm like let me hype it up and show people that and it was at a time where that wasn't the norm Back in the day, right 2020, which was just a few years ago, and so A whole panorama thing. Yeah, born and raised here in St Louis, I've always seen the potential. It's a great city for a lot of great people that are trying to, you know, bring us to times, bring us up to the times, but we also deal with a lot of stuff that keeps us behind us. Keep us behind of the New York. Excuse me, I feel like I'm all over the place.
Speaker 2:Behind the New York I don't know what.
Speaker 1:This is the fourth time we recorded a podcast. We've only used one and even that one time was so chaotic yeah.
Speaker 2:Now you and I have actually recorded what four times now, like not even Never used them. None of them have seen the Internet. I know there's, they exist somewhere, like the files are still out there of us recording a podcast in the previous studio, but now they don't. The difference this time around is the fact that I have actually intentionally put my camera up higher so that I appear taller, and if you look on your camera you actually look way shorter because, guy, this guy, all right, our recent beef. He has been roasting me because I'm five nine, which, if you Google right now, hey, what's the average height of a man in the US? It's five nine, nothing remarkable. No, you want it, you want to go there.
Speaker 1:No, I was freaking. I don't want to be a tree. I've never wanted to be average, so why would I settle?
Speaker 2:at average I like from it about five feet nine inches tall my height.
Speaker 1:So I've been out of the dating scene for a very, very long time since the year. Like Twitter came out back in the day, I guess it's X now.
Speaker 2:Rest in peace. Twitter.
Speaker 1:But I heard like women, they like guys that are taller than six foot. So whenever you were on those apps, did you lie? Did you wear those like shoes?
Speaker 2:I lie. No, I owned it, I owned it. Whenever I was before I found my girlfriend I was like yeah, no, I'm. I didn't like call it out, I wasn't like drawing attention like yeah, I'm five, nine short king. I'm not like Cody Co.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like.
Speaker 2:I I'm not going to like what am I supposed to do? How am I going to hide that? I don't understand when dudes lie about their height on dating stuff. It's like, yeah, I'm six foot, Like I see these like TikToks and stuff that people are like yo, what's your height, bro? And then they're like, yeah, I'm six foot. And he's like I have a tape measure, Can I find out? And they're like, no, Is that real? That's real. It's real. Like that's actually content that exists.
Speaker 1:Where do you think that insecurities came from? Of height?
Speaker 2:Probably because we get a lot of shit for being quote unquote short. There's nothing wrong with being five, nine or below. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:I mean, most of the pants they sell in stores are made for you guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you can find clothes anyway, like I could go to Target right now. The like five racks that they have for men in Target I can actually utilize. You can't? No, you have nothing there.
Speaker 1:Oh, and then there's always like the people like, oh, you can go to big and tall. I was like, listen, you said big and tall. I am very skinny and tall and it's still hard to find pants.
Speaker 2:Do you ever get tired of people asking you what the weather is like up there?
Speaker 1:I think they only ask because they want to get on my level that was like the most Kanye LeBron answer I've ever heard in my life. No, I don't get it, I get. I get asked that more by, like old people, the well lived people. Yeah, how's the weather up there?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's like oh, I don't know why. Like we default to a horse voice when we're talking about, like, old people voices.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, some of them don't even sound like that I used to work in a nursing home and a lot of them do. Oh, OK.
Speaker 2:Well, you guys think the.
Speaker 1:Intel, especially if they were like a singer. You know, their voices are so like raspy. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But it's got swag to it. So you were, you worked on a nursing home before, oh my God. Content creator.
Speaker 1:So back in the day I worked in a nursing home, I was in the dietary department. I used to do the dishes. You know, wait what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is like dietary makes me think like you're back there, like, oh yeah, we got to make sure they get their macros hit. We're whipping up the meals, you know that's all those other.
Speaker 1:They like I scooped out the serving size, but I always make sure there's enough for me to try some of the food too, you know? Ok, he's a growing boy, you can't tell growing boy Dude, I'm six, I've peaked at six, five.
Speaker 2:I don't know that.
Speaker 1:How many, how many.
Speaker 2:OK, I'm gonna hit puberty again. I don't know.
Speaker 1:At what age did you stop getting pinches for your birthday? Because you know they say a pinch.
Speaker 2:My birthday is coming up and I still plan on getting a pinch. All right, maybe next year. You know, what's crazy is like. Up until senior year of high school, I think I was like five, seven, and then senior year is whenever I grew to five, nine, I was like a little twig. I look like a mixed Harry Potter and then like I voice was higher like this, and then all of a sudden I turned into this. What you see today, you just like, yeah, like plateaued.
Speaker 2:I like grew through middle school and like early high school, then I just stopped. And then I discovered facial hair one day and I was like oh shit.
Speaker 1:And then you went to from five nine to five nine and a half with the curls up.
Speaker 2:So whenever I do the curls, sometimes if I'm like I could be five, ten today, I just go. It's the hair guy. We got to get a hair cut like Louis height.
Speaker 1:So whenever, so whenever you're like waiting to get your license, your driver's license. Oh bro, I put the hair up.
Speaker 2:I've you put it up. Oh yeah, oh dang, yeah, not that. Well, there was one of them that said five, ten.
Speaker 1:See, I get haircuts just because it's so inconvenient, because there's always that person like, oh, I can't reach up there and they're trying to like push it up the wall. So you're like damn.
Speaker 2:I need to look six, four today.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh yeah, I got to look six, four, but yeah, I think I'm six, four and three fourths.
Speaker 2:What I thought. You six five. Well with the hair. Why are you lying about your height?
Speaker 1:How.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:It's because I'm trying to get drafted by the NBA. That's how you do it, like on paper, I'm six nine. If you meet me in person, I am six five. For those those who are listening, you're listening to two people with substantial differences that get along like we can talk about good stuff on this podcast.
Speaker 2:Why are you insinuating that people that are different heights that don't get along like this, like there's an ongoing beef.
Speaker 1:For some reason. Never mind, there's some people that are so mad like that. I'm, I'm tall, I'm like who cares?
Speaker 2:I'm tall, why do people like get aggressive with you. They just seem like trigger fight or flight and people.
Speaker 1:Man like sometimes I'm not like OK, I'm at a concert just like everybody else, I'm having a good time, I'm innocently standing there, but I just don't see the people behind me and I'm like, oh, I apologize, but then there's like this, like an angry guy, that's like man, this is now Wait, no, no, wait.
Speaker 1:I got to hear there's like I'm interested now there's always like an angry guy that's like five, three and he's like sorry, man, I can't, I can't see, I can't see and I'm like, oh, do my bad, you know, pick them up, put it in front of me.
Speaker 2:Pick him up Like he's a toddler. Bro, I got you Like. I got you, bro.
Speaker 1:I stand with my short community, I stand with my.
Speaker 2:You can't. You'll see above everybody. Yeah, you got a needle, you got to. You got to sit crisscross applesauce.
Speaker 1:Right, that's a short community. I'm not going to lie, though, like when I go to concerts, especially if it's like an outdoor one. It could be dark out there and I will have sunglasses on and a hat, and somehow there's someone will send me a photo of me and it's like ahead above the rest.
Speaker 2:And that's how tall you are. I'm surprised you don't just like see moonlight. I'm sure, like you don't even have, you don't need night vision, you just see.
Speaker 1:Fair yeah.
Speaker 2:Fair Right up there that is.
Speaker 1:it is bright hanging out with the stars. I hate this. I hate that he has bars about this.
Speaker 2:Have you rehearsed this?
Speaker 1:No, no, wait for this.
Speaker 2:No, I got eight hours of sleep last night. This wasn't even the script for the episode, by the way. This is all just freestyle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I drank three cups of coffee today, remember.
Speaker 2:You remember I said by the time I got to your stomach Huh, damn, that was a good one. Yeah, I got jokes to come on.
Speaker 1:All right, what do you guys talk about in this podcast? What do you talk? Ok, I have a studio space.
Speaker 2:So, quite literally, he has been here for so many recordings. He's seen it on our television that we broadcast podcast crap Twenty four hours at, not 24 hours. It's not like you can pop in and be like, yeah, I'm going to watch some podcasts. This isn't like a movie theater.
Speaker 1:Bro, Taylor Swift did a whole concert thing like tour.
Speaker 2:I do not want that in here. I was like don't do that, with people screaming and twirling and dancing what we're saying on the podcast. I don't need people bringing in fake degrees and weaponizing them in here. I don't need that, Dang that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's scary. All right, you know, people go watch this and just like start taking our jokes. Like what if we like go on TikTok three months from now and someone's saying the exact same thing we just said? And you know, I guess that does happen all time.
Speaker 2:This, this is actually a really good segue into a topic I've been thinking about. That's been on my mind, for I think we need to raise the price of podcast equipment because too many people just be yapping. I agree, you know, it's just. I think we need to raise the price of podcast equipment because too many people are yapping, too many people. I saw three people this week say I started a podcast and it's like what's it about? It's just me talking and hanging out.
Speaker 2:I'm like what's it about With who Wait just by themselves? I'm like, bro, you got to have substance this episode. I'll be honest. The substance is us roasting each other for height. But we're both content creators and we'll get into that in a minute. I talk with content creators on this isn't my degree. I throw the most valuable thing I own and it is disintegrating and like that's. That's why my podcast is special.
Speaker 1:I sponsor this. Like what if they give you a whole nother one?
Speaker 2:I think they're going to look at this and be like, wow, that's an excellent candidate for for sponsorship.
Speaker 1:I'll give you my Lindenwood one.
Speaker 2:My Lindenwood. Oh yeah, you have a freaking masters.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and we're not talking about golf. Oh, bars. Ok, yes, I do have a master's.
Speaker 2:When's the freestyle? Because let's be real, and every content creator character arc. You drop a mixtape or some type of album. Eventually, every content creator becomes a musician at some point. When is yours coming? Because clearly you have the bars. Thank you.
Speaker 1:I know you've had Finnegan on the show.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and that exact chair actually.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a good friend, a good person. He's in music, you know, so it does seem like I know Colin. He's been on the show, he's done it. Yeah, has Josh.
Speaker 2:Not yet, I don't think.
Speaker 1:I don't think Josh has done it yet you know it's funny, I have the connections I could probably put on a concert. Would you have?
Speaker 2:gone to Nellie's music college when it was around.
Speaker 1:I mean that would have been pretty cool. He had vocal, he had the music college and he had pimp juice. That would have been the place to be in the mid 2000s.
Speaker 2:I feel like we don't talk about that enough. In St Louis we don't there was a whole like college from Nellie to get started in music. It was extreme Institute, it was from Vaterok College and they cut ties in 2018. I really don't know how to respond to this, did you? Know about this.
Speaker 1:I didn't know Really.
Speaker 2:No man, yeah, he had a whole partnership with Vaterok College and there was like an educational program for upcoming musicians.
Speaker 1:Do you think he just sponsored it, so it said Nellie's School of Music, or do you think he was actually part of it? I guess I'm not sure We'll find out. I'll have them on my podcast. I guess we'll find out, like he'll be here eventually. Yeah, let's be real.
Speaker 2:Like, but no, there was a whole educational program like a whole Institute, and it was like all over the Midwest.
Speaker 1:So yeah, I don't think I have the music gene in me.
Speaker 2:But then again there is Auto Tune, Bro, there's a lot of people that don't have the music gene in them. I'm not going to draw names, because fan bases might go crazy and I'm trying not to get canceled yet, yeah.
Speaker 1:I have to make it before I get canceled I think if I were to get in any genre, it would be country going down the South Road in a rusty old Chevy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big black Chevy going by the tractor.
Speaker 1:But yeah. So if I were to get to any genre and be country, whenever I went to school in Southwest Missouri it was all country right, eight out of 10. But it's like literally, if I come up with like 10 songs, I can perform those songs for the next 20 years. I can grow my fan base. They're gonna play the same songs on the radio. I'm gonna end up in stadiums and it's literally the same 10 songs and I just gotta add maybe one song every other year, bam.
Speaker 2:You really do just like have a feature on somebody?
Speaker 1:Do they have a? Figure it out and I don't have to dance.
Speaker 2:That's true. You just have to like sway. Yeah, I get cut off shirts, so I don't have to look like have some guy with the banjo Dude, you gotta have another one with a harmonica. You can even like get away with somebody that's just doing the triangle.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And call it the acoustic.
Speaker 1:I would say I think it'd be neat if I learn the guitar.
Speaker 2:I think that would be neat Hitting up the barn Drinking some real beer.
Speaker 1:And stitching up with some yarn.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, we got sweater knitting in the building.
Speaker 1:Hey, we're out here.
Speaker 2:Hashtag Instagram threads On this podcast, are you?
Speaker 1:about to interview me. Yeah, no, I actually thought about it for a second Like tell me about it.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right here, let me get in character for being interviewed. I'm ready.
Speaker 1:Now I'm gonna bring that up. What is this guy on? What is this guy on?
Speaker 2:You know what Funny story I bought? I think I bought these. No, I bought these from Foot Locker. I went to Foot Locker to go pick up these blazers, these Nike blazers. I love blazers, they're great Timeless shoe. All right, I go to pick these up. The guy is like oh, you're here to pick up these blazers. I didn't know people still wore blazers. And I'm like I didn't know, people still work at Foot Locker. Don't diss the blazer. The blazer is a timeless shoe and it is. I mean, wouldn't you agree? Wouldn't you agree? It goes with everything?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I would have hit him back with like aren't you supposed to be one that knows about fashion, Like bro, like?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, that's a weird way to say that you're out of the loop, like I mean you should have kept that in here. Yeah, foot Locker and fluorescent.
Speaker 1:Bro, that was shoe-carnival. Come on man. Oh, there is a shoe-carnival in fluorescent.
Speaker 2:It's over. It's over by that Schnooks and that Barnes Noble, and that's where I went to high school. Do you think that question's outdated?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's like I think it's perfectly acceptable to ask somebody like let's say, ok, you just got out of high school, you're off at college or maybe you've like, probably like up to like 19 or 20. But it's just like that's, that's something I don't know. That's just a weird question to ask people. And it's like fun when people come from other cities, they move to St Louis and people, what high school you go to? It's just so weird. It's weird, sticky. I've legitimately gone to several colleges and we can talk about that, but it's like I think I don't know, it's just, and you can't mention that. If you share those as a short, I am perfectly fine, because that is like, thank you for the consent. Yeah, this is my consent, but like, like it just needs to be retired man. Like I agree, people get offended by like if, like I look at people like huh, the high school, like I'm 32 years old and you're still asking me that, like, what area of town do you live in? Like it's so weird.
Speaker 2:It's like, doug, you're 54. Yeah, why are you concerned with where I went to high school? Oh, I know you went to state for tennis. Ok, I know you went, it was great, you were JV, ok. But why does that matter? Now you have a mortgage, you have kids that are actually in college. They're past the high school phase. Where did they go? You know like why are you asking me, why is that relevance right now?
Speaker 1:There is more to your life than your high school.
Speaker 2:This is a self-checkout at Dearbergs. Why are we talking about high school? I'm literally just here to get a Gatorade. Is that how you plug? Your sponsors like that I wish that was a freaking sponsor. Dearbergs, let's have a conversation, but no dude, it's like it's the most weird venues that you get asked that to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just how I get taken back. There's like you know, I'm used to people talking like hey, what's your favorite place to eat? You know, what do you have coming up, and then someone's like like you just meet them. Hey, it's nice to meet you, how are you doing? And it's like what high school you went to? And it's like I just it's so confusing.
Speaker 2:They're like I went to South City and I went here.
Speaker 1:Well, I just want people to know there is more to them than the high school they went to. Like I had a great time and I was like, like, was it like Homecoming King Class Clown.
Speaker 2:I don't know how you do. You were Homecoming King. Yeah, like so I had a good time, what the hell.
Speaker 1:Dude, I had a great time.
Speaker 2:I was Class.
Speaker 1:Clown, I got that too, but I was like I've never.
Speaker 2:Sorry, this is just my. My crowning achievement is just another one of your accolades.
Speaker 1:Bro, it's Kate and I were just talking about all these like professional designations I have and I'm like, yeah, all those certificates, all those professional designations are all in like the little bun, like the container, and they're like I hate this guy.
Speaker 2:This guy, I'm never having him back on the podcast again. He just, he came here just to one up.
Speaker 1:No, I can't even find my degree. I can't find my master here and he's Homecoming King. This is this is yours.
Speaker 2:Now that's your degree. Congratulations, thank you, and shake right now. We can't we. Uh oh, yesterday we had Caden, who is currently over here. Dapped up, caden, it was crisp. He did the same Chris, when we went to do that, brought some like it sounded like. And then there's this guy walking in the restaurant. He's actively. He did a drive by. Laugh at us.
Speaker 1:Right, he like look like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he looked and he's like he did the shoulder, the shoulder left like. I was like you know like you try to keep it and your body's just like no we got to let the people know we're laughing.
Speaker 1:Do you think that's how it is when J Cole and Drake shake hands on stage? Man, yeah, that was like the worst handshake.
Speaker 2:I, I just it was like we both was like After we shook hands with. Caden, like Caden, like I ran away, he was like I don't even know, bro, I, I want to be seen with us.
Speaker 1:I looked at you and I was like, oh, don't fuck this up. And then we just it was that's, that's.
Speaker 2:I think that's what did. It is the fact that we both knew each other and we knew that we couldn't, we couldn't fuck it up and I think that put too much pressure on us and we just fucked it up beyond recovery, like to the point that it was a public embarrassment there were and somebody saw it, so shout out to him.
Speaker 1:I hope he's listening.
Speaker 2:I hope you had a good meal.
Speaker 1:You went to a good restaurant.
Speaker 2:We were at corner 17. You went to a good restaurant. Yeah, I hope you had a good meal. Good meal, yeah, you got a little bit of entertainment before you even got through the door. But I'm I'm also sorry that you had to witness that because, like I, I still haven't recovered, because that was the most like with Caden it was boom, and then another one boom, and then ours was.
Speaker 1:Would you rather get canceled or uninvited to the barbecue?
Speaker 2:Give me cancel, give me cancel, don't uninvite me. If you uninvite me, that's just like that cuts deep. You were, you were there, but then you did something that made the council revoke your invitation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, like, if you get canceled, there's always an audience for you. You're just canceled in front of, like the media eye or like the front. Like you know, you're probably not going to be seen here and there, but you're still selling out?
Speaker 2:Probably still like shun you uninvited to the barbecue. Uninvited, it's bad. I'll be uninvited.
Speaker 1:It's bad I've been moving out to Winsfield. At that point you have to have no choice. I'm going to Winsfield or Finton. That's all you.
Speaker 2:Those are your two options.
Speaker 1:I'm going to Finton open up a food truck factory or something.
Speaker 2:A food truck, a food truck garden truck factory food truck garden.
Speaker 1:That's what, if I ever got uninvited garden. That's where I'm going. We need a roller rink in Forest Park. I mean, that's kind of what they're doing with the Steinberg, I think.
Speaker 2:I saw like they were like talking, do you?
Speaker 1:know how to skate yes. What I don't. Well, I'm like a giraffe on that. You're like over here like a.
Speaker 2:I could see that. I could see being like oh, and then like have those cartoons sound effects?
Speaker 1:They're like hey, tories, are us Hire your boy? I'm just saying Sponsor by the new mascot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for Tories are us Jeffrey. Yeah, they spelled that really. They spelled that really white. What G, e, o, f, f. Oh Geoffrey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like all right. So yeah, shout out to Caden. Hopefully people are entertained.
Speaker 2:You know, Caden and I actually did like podcast style clips before the podcast was even a thing. We did like the the tier list and the the draft picks. We got to bring that back.
Speaker 1:Let's we do have to bring.
Speaker 2:Caden.
Speaker 1:And don't forget about my podcast Y'all if you want to see all this podcast. He already has enough.
Speaker 2:Ok, he got. He got the the homecoming. Did you get prom king to?
Speaker 1:No, my best friend got that, we, we. We is like. We established early on like, hey, you go for this one, I'll go for that one. I wanted the homecoming king because the whole school voted for that. The prom was just for the people that went there. I wanted everybody to vote. And do you ever go to concerts with a step ladder?
Speaker 2:No, I actually have somebody put me on their shoulders, so then I like wave around like a baby. One time I held a helium balloon, just to like get a little bit of levitation over the crowd.
Speaker 1:My guys out here living the up life, just to see I am.
Speaker 2:I am. That was based on a true story. My life of Dante yeah up is actually my life.
Speaker 1:So on this podcast, is it? Do you usually have these kind of no, actually, you know what you are like right now. I would compare this to that. Like Oprah Winfrey, barbara Walters who else have like groundbreaking interviews?
Speaker 2:Whoever those people? Because people don't see me like this usually that's true, nobody sees this side of Brad and see, this is the sign of an excellent interviewer is whenever you get somebody to open up and talk about some real shit that they don't talk about on other shows. Ok, he's trying to keep his together because he knows it's true, all right, what we're doing here is revolutionary, and if I was a company, I would sponsor that.
Speaker 1:Like man we got to, we got to get more bread and on Dante's podcast we got to start sponsoring. It's not that hard.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty simple concept it's just look at what I sacrifice to make this. Do you see? Do you see the? The? The sacrifice here? This is a is a representation of so many sleepless nights Editing this podcast.
Speaker 1:Editing.
Speaker 2:Well, I guess during this I was editing really shitty YouTube videos, like the videos I made whenever I was still getting this terrible, not even on the Internet anymore. They're gone. You were in Bear, did you archive?
Speaker 1:it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're archived.
Speaker 1:I have like.
Speaker 2:I remember my iMac only had like 256 gigs of memory, so I bought an external hard drive to like export my videos to, and it was awful because it was like one of those old-fashioned ones that would take forever. So I still have it. I don't know if it still works, because you know how those go bad after like five years. I don't know if it still works, but I like to think that it does, because that's where all the old exports are at.
Speaker 1:I feel like one day you'll be able to sell that for a lot of money, so make sure you preserve it. Yeah, I'll sign it.
Speaker 2:I need to make like a backup of it, because I have probably 10 of those just for YouTube.
Speaker 1:So if I sponsored your podcast, I could put like a sticker right here, right, if?
Speaker 2:you sponsored the podcast. We didn't even need to have this here. Like that could be gone this could be all you.
Speaker 1:So if you're watching, you're listening to this and you wanna sponsor Brad and STL, make sure to do that, because I'll no this is my podcast.
Speaker 2:I don't know where he's getting that from. This is original Dante's podcast. He has his own. Okay, go to his. I'll float his logo over his face right now. That's where you can find his crap. This right here. This is original Dante. This is mine.
Speaker 1:What do you think the retention time on this episode is gonna be? Probably way.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I feel like this is gonna either be the best or the worst, Because I ask a lot of questions about content and creation and I have other influencers on here, but this is unhinged and completely off the script. We haven't even talked about what you even do, that's right. Except for, like three adjectives that I threw out 40 minutes ago.
Speaker 1:I was always saying my name is Brad and STL, Born and raised here in Salem.
Speaker 2:Did you catch that? He just code switched. He just code switched right back to PR.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, man, it's a yeah. There's no PR training in this interview. No, I create a lot of digital content. Really. Just it's fun, like why not live life? Create it, been in the corporate world for a long time and your creativity and your ideas they get crushed. And so if you create for yourself and I know that it's been many years in the making, but it's very fun, but it's a lot of work Get your elevator music on you. Look at it on purpose.
Speaker 2:I was actually singing a very sad song that they put on PETA commercials.
Speaker 1:Some Cheryl Crowe home of. She's the queen of Kenneth Missouri Really, yeah. Or like the hometown, like when you drive in, like you know, like hometowns, they always have like that one thing they're like small, that's a hometown, small towns, like in Salem, we're like, oh, the arch. And then other people, other people know Nelly before they know the arch. That's true. Kenneth Missouri, home of Cheryl Crowe.
Speaker 2:You know what People sleep on Missouri, we have a giant. I was gonna, okay, I'm gonna say this about the arch it's a giant half of McDonald's logo with no color. It's great, okay. Kansas City, the city of fountains and apparently the city of Taylor Swift. St Joseph, missouri Eminem is from there. Did you know that, did you?
Speaker 1:know that.
Speaker 2:He moved to Detroit, but he was born in St Joseph.
Speaker 1:Missouri. How many fountains are in Kansas City, though?
Speaker 2:Apparently a lot, but I'm gonna be honest Every time I've been, I haven't seen a lot.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen a lot, just on the.
Speaker 2:In.
Speaker 1:Springfield.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's millions of tons of cheese. No, that's Oceola, Missouri, when? Okay, what's this? Since apparently you know so much about this, you well traveled Missourian? What's the deal with the tons of cheese that are buried in caves in Missouri?
Speaker 1:Probably preservation. Why do you need that much cheese? You know, I really don't.
Speaker 2:I have no answer for that Like what I need to know the thought process here. Why is there so much cheese buried in caves in Missouri? Why does that exist? What are we saving that for? Is that like somebody, some rich person's? Like stockpile, like they're waiting like man if the apocalypse comes up? Hey, at least I got cheese. You need sharp cheddar Gouda, maybe a little bit of Parmesan that they don't got Provell, though.
Speaker 1:I mean it's like if you watch season one, episode four of the Walking Dead, you see that there's a need for that Cause. If, like you say, if we're and so specific of a reference, yeah, like if you're ever in a situation where you don't know where your next meal is gonna come from, but you know that there's a good chance of food in the cave, just gonna eat cheese for the rest of your life. No, make that cheese, make that, make that cheddar. Why?
Speaker 1:does he have bars what was that thing called where they like took away the alcohol Prohibition Prohibition, the prohibition of cheese, the prohibition of cheese.
Speaker 2:What is it outlawed cheese I don't know, bro.
Speaker 1:I mean, you see where the Wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Have you seen the way Missouri thinks we?
Speaker 2:have overlooked a key thing here what if a rat finds out? What if Master Splinter is hiding?
Speaker 1:Came to Missouri. Probably already has, I mean with the film credits. How do we?
Speaker 2:verify that it's still there? True, like do they have security on payroll to guard this cheese? Mr Beast cannot find out about this, because then he's going to be like he's going to be like I bought a cave full of cheese and he's going to give it away to some random person. How long does cheese last for? Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not a cheese manger, but I think that's the case.
Speaker 2:I think that's why you have Parmesan and stuff that's like hundreds of years old, you know they need to make podcast equipment more expensive because otherwise you listen to that. We need to make it more expensive. We need to make it more expensive. We need to make it more expensive. We need to make it more expensive. We need to make it more expensive. We need to make it more expensive because we're living on a black land where millions of kids are still together, which makes me aggressive.
Speaker 1:But if we're being headed, you know. You know, if Secretary ofitating forünebug can't get out, there's no room for that, they're going to want towang for the world.
Speaker 2:You know we're living too far from anybody the point of attention they wanna be. Look at me, look at me. Look at me. Like I saw a post that was like main character energy, and I can't remember the details of it so I'm not gonna misquote it, but like it was talking about yeah, everybody wants to be the main character, so bad now.
Speaker 1:See, I don't, and I think that's how I end up in those situations and stuff, like I would rather create cool stuff for other people than for myself, but then I'm always there Like it's interesting.
Speaker 2:You're better than me because I want the views and clicks.
Speaker 1:Bro I-.
Speaker 2:Okay, cause that's how you get the sponsors and that's how you can make a living.
Speaker 1:I want the sponsors, but yeah, I agree with you. Views and clicks. Views and clicks that's it, don't.
Speaker 2:I don't wanna get to the point where, like you know your Mr Beast level that you can't even. He was on a podcast. I think it was like a year ago, but he was like I went to this grocery store and there was like somebody that noticed me and they were like taking a photo and then they put it on their Snapchat story and then, before you know it, like once you take the first photo, you can't be there more than 10 minutes because then you're gonna have a swarm around you. So I never wanna be at that level. No, honestly, like 100 plus million subs, 150, 200 million subscribers, I do not wanna be there.
Speaker 1:I don't wanna be there. I would love to manage those people.
Speaker 2:But for now, yeah, no, maybe I am a little clout hungry Kinda. You have to be at the beginning, you gotta be clout hungry.
Speaker 1:I would say for me it's more like just give me the credit where it's due and don't take all like if you get inspiration from something I do, just like you know, give a shout out like or say, hey, I was inspired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, inspired, by this.
Speaker 1:Or, like you know, I'll talk to you. Or Lando, like hey, I'm thinking about adding this to my video. I see you're doing that. Is that cool? Like just run it passing, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't just like immediately assume that just because, especially here in St Louis, which we will save you the details of that- Future episode.
Speaker 2:That's a future episode. I do a state of the creator economy address every year, like I'm president or something I don't know, but I talk about things, and this has been a honestly repetitive topic of like. Stop taking inspiration from each other, stop copying each other, stop ripping each other off. St Louis is not that big of a city. If one of us does something, it's not hard for most of us to notice they're a lot. I mean, that's how we were able to get in. Like honestly, I look back and I'm like damn, I got in some pretty crazy rooms for somebody that only had like 1500 followers on Instagram back then and like not even a thousand subscribers on YouTube. St Louis is not a hard city to like get noticed. But with that said, like don't be original.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I think you know the reason a lot of companies still work with us to reach out to us is because, oh, not a lot, but when they do it's, they know what they're gonna get. They know we're consistent, they know we've kept a good name, they know what we're about and a lot of times they look for that over that. You know, dude, if you were to get started today, you can like on at least. You know, even in this scene you can grow to, you know, 10,000 followers in like three, four months.
Speaker 2:If that I'd argue that it's easier to start today.
Speaker 1:Way easier, way easier back then, because I started making content back in.
Speaker 2:like I started my Instagram account like late 2018, like late fall and it was growing pretty steadily. But, like honestly, I think if I would have started today I would have had more success, because now there's also more people watching.
Speaker 1:When I would say, too, it's like for me, my big thing was showing people what can be done out of here. Yeah, and so which has been good. But it's also interesting because, like I'll do something that's really, really unique and different. And then it's like people will come right in it, right behind me, and it's like let me do that, can I do that exact same thing? Or companies will see what I do.
Speaker 1:Instead of hiring me, they'll like, hey, breton, how much would you charge for this? And I would tell them which is in it? A lot. And they'll just hire someone else to do it for free. And so it's like I'm trying to show people what can be done, because nowadays you don't have to move to Coastal City or I want to say you don't have to, but I understand why people do. You can do things out of here. But the way St Louis, st Louis just got to they just have to treat creatives a lot better. And it's not like a sense of entinement. It's like you can just say it's business, right, we are helping people come to the city, we're helping promote these businesses.
Speaker 2:And we're essentially an extension of the tourism board. Yeah, just independent creators, but they won't support us.
Speaker 1:Like I mean, I'll say they aren't supporting us and we're the one like we had some of it Not right now.
Speaker 2:yeah, no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that one person told us like hey, do you guys work for the city? You guys are really selling me on this. The person when we were on the roof front yeah.
Speaker 2:Yes, somebody was like yeah, do you guys work for the city? Like, do you guys?
Speaker 1:No, we don't.
Speaker 2:I can't even get a response to emails from a lot of businesses here when I'm like there's this concept that we could do, we could pull off. That would be, and I would even outline like here's the benefit for not just you but like your business, the city, your visibility, your brand, your notoriety.
Speaker 1:This is why you should do this, and then they're like mmm, it's not in the budget, but then they hire someone to do that.
Speaker 2:So that's why we gotta be careful on giving out ideas. That's why I've had, whenever I talk about like I'm not a St Louis creator anymore, I've had a lot of mixed reception to it. Some people are like, well, are you not about the community anymore? I'm totally for the community, you're very much for the community.
Speaker 1:I'm a city resident.
Speaker 2:I support a lot of businesses in the city. I do most of my like everyday shopping, all this eating out, all this like purchasing of things in the city.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I'm very much so a city person, but whenever you get disrespected so many times and like people try to take advantage of you so many times and they try to take your intellectual property, once that happens enough, unfortunately, you have to like set a boundary and say, yeah, sorry, I'm not gonna allow that to happen, because it's happened so many times, too many times Been very nice about it. A lot of these programs that you see were started by us, mm-hmm, that are now super popular, but we don't see the benefit from it.
Speaker 1:You know they'll reach out and they'll ask us to do like 10 things and then, like I'm any, like I'm happy to help any local business, I really am, like I'm a resource. I understand St Louis marketing, social media, people, right, I understand those things. But when you start asking for very detailed stuff and I have an agency myself I tell people like you know, if we have it in the budget, hey, this is what we have here, you go X amount of dollars. If I don't like, hey, you know, go experience it please. You know, don't try to spend over 150 or something.
Speaker 1:But when you tell people you gotta do all of these things and then we just say, hey, can I get one more thing, one more appetizer or drink so I can showcase it like this? Also, can I have a gift card to come back and actually experience it, which is a very reasonable thing to do, not only as a person like you know. It's showing real community Because we're going out there and we are highlighting this for your client, and so it's like we're taking the time you know they're not paying our phone bills we're taking the time to like, highlight this place for you, help your client out, and all we're asking for is, if we wanna go with our girlfriends you know someone in our family, a friend, like can we just go and also enjoy it Because, like, otherwise we're going there to work for you, for free.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Now, if a restaurant I reach out hey, you know we need some help reach out to me, but it's like some of these other entities, we're not even asking a lot, because then when you do mention it to them, it's like oh, I thought you know we're here to support local. It's like we're also local businesses.
Speaker 2:We totally are.
Speaker 2:We're local businesses, if you think about it, we're essentially advertising channels. That's what we are, because we like what people see on our pages. They look at, they really recognize what we're posting. They pay attention to the details, they pay attention to what we say. That holds value Because we have the power of influence to get people in the door, to get people thinking about oh, maybe I do need to go there, we can go on a date night there or, you know, maybe this would be good for whenever my buddy's coming down, like we can go hang out there, we'll grab a pint. I don't know. You got to understand that we are just an extension of your marketing and your advertising budget. We're just another channel. What just think of us as like a similar vein to traditional media like magazines, publications, web articles television.
Speaker 2:You know, like we're just influencer. Marketing is just another part of that. So while a lot of us do this stuff for fun, it's also something that has production costs. Like, I'll just be candid, we have a studio. This is rented. These lights there's two giant lights here had to buy those boom arms Including the microphones, these, these sure sm7b's yeah, they cost money. Table the, the mics back here. The cameras, the lenses, the memory cards, the tripods. Time to edit the freaking Millions of squares of foam. Yeah, they're currently on the wall. Like all of this in the editing the computer, the software. It's not a hobby at that point, mm-hmm and we want to help.
Speaker 1:We really do. But it's like I, what you're gonna see with us is like the way st Louis has always been ran. It's always been like all right, well, if you're not in with us, you're not like we're not gonna let you succeed in our city. But the beautiful thing about the time that we're in, we can create our own stuff. We can create our own media outlets.
Speaker 1:As much as we want to work with you know, local companies to help even advertise on our channels, and I'm very fortunate I have really great partners. But I'm thinking just overall. It's like look and I say this to my following all the time I want to work with local companies, even the local big companies that are in town. Whatever we can do to advertise, I will try. But when you start seeing me work with companies outside of st Louis, everybody in the city, everyone that follows me, should understand that I had tried. I tried the places that I've supported for so long. I have tried to work with them and it wasn't reciprocated. And I don't even ask for a lot like a money or anything, just like, hey, can we sponsor this, sponsor that, because what do I do? I pay a creator to help me. I'm keeping my money local instead of paying mark zuckerberg for ads.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's like when you see we, see me, see you working with places out of town. We tried y'all.
Speaker 2:Yeah that's it record we did, we tried like a lot of these opportunities that you see With.
Speaker 2:I'll even I'll even mention one the Hertz thing that I did with the tesla Mm-hmm. I pitched that to a couple local businesses, first Because, for a bit of context, my car was stolen. I was looking for, you know, some way to make content out of it. So I was like, okay, let me see if what an ev is like here in st Louis, or like I can go to x number of restaurants and do all this stuff in this car sponsored by this local business. I tried pitching that to local businesses and None of them were on board with it. Mm-hmm. But somehow A national brand, hertz, said yeah, we can make that happen. Yeah, we try. Okay, we try. It's just if you, if we Approach local businesses with these ideas and these concepts and they say no, we're not gonna keep like pushing, pushing, pushing, because no means no, like it just respecting your respect in your boundary and your budget.
Speaker 2:But we've tried, and there have been deals that I've done with national brands that have been you know, I I've asked for a lot less, like a fraction of what I would charge a national brand for the same deliverables, and a local business will be like, yeah, no, that's not in our budget, we're not gonna do that, but then a national brand doesn't even bat an eye at it. Yeah, and it's just like we're trying. We're trying to support local and at the same time, though, we kind of are indirectly, because we're bringing those opportunities to st Louis and developing the creator economy and actually building a foundation that other people can build upon. Mm-hmm, which is, I'd argue, is something that we've been doing since we started our pages.
Speaker 2:Yeah but that's not really talked about enough, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:No, it's not. And then we try. We say we're trying and we Are, I am trying. But I will also say I've tried. So I'm open to working with companies outside Uh of st Louis and I will always. You know, I I spend, like I buy like over 90% of my food now and I'll still support those businesses in that way. Yeah, but I would love to have it be. Hey, this series is sponsored by this st Louis company. Yeah, I, I don't know, I did I. I don't know if it's just like the old school legacy st Louis stuff that they're doing. I don't know if maybe they just don't know, because anybody can tell you with advertising and marketing how much it makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, go to a baseball game, and everything's advertised everywhere.
Speaker 2:You can't look anywhere, or not?
Speaker 1:but we everything's advertisements in your field of vision and it's crazy because, like literally Bless, powered by Company from st Louis, you know it could do it could it's, it's so crazy and it when we you could have your logo here on the microphone said, every time that somebody is Looking at us, the see your logo right there in frame but it's like you, like I'm at a point where I Don't want to sell like that, like you know what, yeah, if, if we can't get it here, we'll try to work with someone outside. I actually allowed them a poor. They'll approach me, but then also, then I'll create my own companies, I'll create my own endeavors. I'll Draw you know, I get people's when I, when I have their attention, I'll throw them to.
Speaker 1:To this taco festival I'm helping out. That gets 16,000 people. You know I'll get 2,200 people to a pop-up bar that I put on. If that's what it takes, because then you know what, when people come in to pop a bar, that's revenue for that local businesses, the local vendors. So we can make sure we're actually keeping it all local. I get paid for my services and guess what? Then I pay the videographer for stuff or I pay other people for stuff. So if we have to do that our way, you know I say if, now that we're doing it, that, doing that Like that, I feel good, we just got to get more people on that page. We, we're really trying, um, and we've tried.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're trying to change the narrative. It's 2024. Y'all got to get with the program Um seriously, and whenever we talk to people that are from other major cities, they're like whoa, like we had a conversation with somebody from out of the country recently Telling them about, you know, how the st Louis influence or scene works and how the creator economy works, and they were asking us questions and they were like we would just respond with how we honestly see it, which is transparency, and they were like what?
Speaker 2:I would have imagined that st Louis would be further than that.
Speaker 1:It's a 20 billion dollar industry, 20 Iliad and the way st Louis feels, because this is how it's always been, they've only allowed a few entities to survive and run. You know, but luckily, you know, we're, we're built different, but it's uh, resilience, yeah, like we, we're doing it for different reasons. We're not doing for their quick buck or a quick clout kind of thing, but yeah, it's just, I don't know it's, it's crazy. It's a 20 billion dollar industry. When I and this is why I no longer Want to work with certain entities or certain things in this town is because I've mentioned it and if we do meet, maybe it's an NDA, because they'll take your ideas and run with it, but literally drawing out how we can build a creator economy, and then they are like oh, wow, okay, great, that's great, and then they don't want to. You know, help sponsor that thing, that's going to draw in a lot more people to their stuff, but they'll do the watered down version of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they'll do the zero sugar, gluten-free version of what we want to do and that's them, because I, I'm, I'm, I'm over it.
Speaker 1:I'm from st Louis. I'm gonna highlight my city and the thing that always sticks with me is what Murphy Lee said. He's like because I was like why did you guys wear the, the jerseys backwards back in the day, you know? And he's like we represent the people, we represent the player more so than the team, and I think that the thing here in st Louis is a lot of people, we represent the, the other people in this city, more than we actually do with st Louis, because st Louis there's always so much crap we have to deal with and when, like every so often, I have to watch that clip, I need to release that episode.
Speaker 1:But when he said, I was like that makes so much sense, you represent that, that person. Like we know so many good people that keep us around here, but there are so many systems and the structure of st Louis that it's like Guys, look, we're trying to bring you up to times, like we don't have to have everything so watered down and get the basics. Like we could have cool stuff like this. St Louis deserves nice things. We don't have to just settle. But you know it's, it's crazy, I get to talk to some people that are Expanding out of st Louis and they, you know, go to another city and they're treated like a king or queen and st Louis. They have, to like, write up a whole proposal and then get told no by someone, and then that someone will hire someone else to do it or they'll take that and pitch it to another entity, yeah, and then they do it with them, done with it.
Speaker 2:I'll be honest, I'm done with it dude a lot of really good treatment outside of st Louis too, oh man you a lot, a lot Yep.
Speaker 2:It's like it almost feels like a toxic relationship, because it's like I'm here, I'm loyal to st Louis, but at the same time, though, like If I was just after opportunities, I would have been out of here by now. Because why would I stay here? Because there's so there's a lot of people out there that are out there, you know, mm-hmm. Because why would I stay here? Because there's so there's other developed scenes in other cities. Yeah, like I would have moved to Chicago by now LA, new York, atlanta, any of those places, even Kansas City.
Speaker 1:Oh, to move there there are a lot of people that look up to us too, and that's what helps keep me going sometime.
Speaker 2:Like people look up, like they look to us for inspiration sometimes a little too much so, but they look to us for inspiration.
Speaker 1:Go out, create Just do it, just just don't. Don't ever wear anything Nike without just doing it.
Speaker 2:Sometimes I don't want to do something. Damn the blazers bro. The blazers bro. Sometimes you got the kicks on too.
Speaker 1:Some, some days I'll throw on adidas, because I'm like Matt and I ain't, I ain't doing.
Speaker 2:I ain't about doing it today, I'm just. I'm just chilling, I'm vibing, yeah. No but, with that said, we are looking for Studio interns if you want to learn. Yeah this stuff. If there's a science here, it's not just hit subscribe, it's not just that, it's, it's a lifestyle facts. But I think I'm sorry, I had to like burp, but then it just didn't come out. So I'm actually gonna end the episode here, because a we've been yapping and podcast equipment needs to still be increased in price and be that camera's almost dead. So boom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I think that's a good stopping point. So thank you, braden, for having this, this wicked conversation with me about height, about light skin tendencies, and then about st Louis and being a creator and opportunities and like the stuff that people ain't paying attention to. Like I feel like they're sleeping on us for sure, like specifically us. I feel like we're slept on Influences in the city just because that's their loss.
Speaker 1:It is it is at this point.
Speaker 2:Just don't, don't recognize it's I mean it goes for really any relationship you have with anything is like Recognize what you have while you have it and like you're gonna miss it if it does when it's gone. Not saying we're we're like moving out of st Louis, but If that does happen, like don't be like. Oh yeah, all right, I love Braden's work, I love what Braden does, I love Braden's videos. Or oh Dante, you make all those cool youtube videos like oh my gosh, I like I've always come on so love to people and give them their flowers while they're around and for any creator that you don't like.
Speaker 1:Let's say you don't have the opportunities to do things and you're pitching a companies and this and that it's a lot more work, it's a lot more hustle, but they're they're. If they're not going to support you, just know there. There is a community out there for you.
Speaker 2:So you got to just put more work in and create your own, and I'm not going to fault anybody for going to other cities because, like I, can't, I can't anymore, I get it.
Speaker 1:I really can't, I get it 100%.
Speaker 2:Like I can't. Like I said, I've received such good treatment from other cities.
Speaker 1:Same man, it's just the unfortunate.
Speaker 2:True, I'm not going to sit here and you know, blow, smoke up your ass and be like oh yeah, st Louis has been the best to know, st Louis why?
Speaker 1:is we go to again.
Speaker 2:Right, fuck you.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Thank you for tuning into the episode. That was aggressive, thank you for tuning into the episode. We'll see you in the next one. And yell cut kaden.