Hero or Dick - S2., Ep. 11 - Weddings

Thanks for tuning in to yet another episode of Hero or Dick!

A very special BALLYHOO! goes out to Steve, Emily, and the Knitting Gang!

Do wedding traditions have timeless appeal, or are they just outdated rituals? Join us this June as we celebrate the wedding season with a deep dive into the many facets of marriage, past and present.

We start with a look back at our highly praised Taylor Swift episode and then transition into personal wedding memories and beloved wedding films like "Father of the Bride" and "My Best Friend's Wedding."

From the ancient origins of weddings to the influence of the Industrial Revolution and the introduction of marriage licenses in 1929, we cover the historical evolution of marriage ceremonies with a humorous nod to the dowry system.

As usual, thanks to you Dear Listeners for making Hero or Dick a success!



~ Kate & KJ

Transcript

Wedding Traditions and Customs

Speaker 1 0:00

Yeah, okay, we're here.

Speaker 2 0:02

Hi everyone. Hello, Welcome to Hero or Dick.

Speaker 1 0:06

Yep Episode 11. Season 2.

Speaker 2 0:08

I thought it was episode 10. No, episode 11.

Speaker 1 0:11

10 was Taylor Swift, which we received tons and tons of emails, texts and mail from.

Speaker 2 0:18

Overall, I would say Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 0:21

I like her, I still like her.

Speaker 2 0:22

Yeah, I don't like her music. Sorry, but I don't dislike her music, I like her. I still like her. Yeah, I don't like her music. Sorry, but I don't dislike her music, I just.

Speaker 1 0:30

It's not for me, but I like her. Did you listen to her anymore or watch any of those videos I mentioned? No Thanks, jack Black was talking about Taylor Swift. That was going through that Instagram thing, which I'm trying not to do very often Because you go places like far away.

Speaker 2 0:47

It's a rabbit hole, yeah.

Speaker 1 0:48

Jack Black was talking about how much he respects her artist. Can't believe. He said she's not an artist. Now she's a movement. She really is.

Speaker 2 0:56

I hope he didn't mean like a movement and because of our podcast.

Speaker 1 0:59

Yeah, oh, I'm sure that's really profound, taylor, you can just send us, the commission check yeah, anytime, anytime. So what else is going on in life?

Speaker 2 1:09

Well, besides the stuff we're going to talk about, Our episode today is about weddings, because it's June and that's wedding month. I just got a hey look at what you were doing a year ago picture, and I was at a wedding. Hmm.

Speaker 1 1:24

Yeah, whose was it? It was my niece and her husband Billy and Sarah.

Speaker 2 1:30

No, emily, and oh my God, I lost his name Rex, mr Emily, mr Emily, oh my God, That'll come to me it was a fun wedding. No, they did a good job. It was at a place where everybody stayed there, or a lot of people stayed at the resort.

Speaker 1 1:50

The Grand Traverse Resort. It was downstate Like American Pie, American Wedding Did you see, that one I did not. God damn it, Kate. That would be good research for this.

Speaker 2 2:01

It would have been. That was actually.

Speaker 1 2:03

American Wedding.

Speaker 2 2:06

That was one of my favorites out of the series oh, out of the series of American.

Speaker 1 2:10

You can imagine, though, stifler he was a bad guy again.

Speaker 2 2:13

Well, you know, it's got to be a movie. There's lots of movies about weddings, Lots and lots of movies about weddings.

Speaker 1 2:20

Since we're talking about weddings, we are. Father of the Bride, that's one of the best.

Speaker 2 2:24

That is a good movie, both of them. The hot dog bun scene there's an old one and a new one New-ish.

Speaker 1 2:30

Oh yeah, there's an old black and white one. I'm talking about the Steve Martin one.

Speaker 2 2:33

Yeah, yeah. And then there's a Runaway Bride.

Speaker 1 2:46

That's a wedding movie that was pretty good.

Speaker 2 2:48

Yeah, what else my Best Friend's Wedding.

Speaker 1 2:52

That was pretty good too.

Speaker 2 2:53

Yeah, shit, weddings apparently make a movie.

Speaker 1 2:57

Yeah.

Speaker 2 2:59

Do you know when the first wedding was?

Speaker 1 3:02

Hold on. I'm looking at my notes. No, I did all this research, but it was so long ago. Kate and I were supposed to meet last we were, and then weddings came up. You know life weddings. No, when was it?

Speaker 2 3:17

so the first marriage ceremony was about 2350 BC. In Mesothonian that's not a word, but that's as good as I can get at. So it was probably a destination wedding.

Speaker 1 3:37

Probably.

Speaker 2 3:37

Probably. I don't even know who got married. It just said so. I have no proof of this. It was 2350.

Speaker 1 3:47

BC. That's a long time ago. That's a long time ago, it was a long time ago.

Speaker 2 3:51

Yeah, they're probably divorced by now. Oh god, yeah. And then weddings really started becoming popular, though, in the 1800s why?

Speaker 1 3:59

because I'll tell you yeah, I want to know okay, because people have more money.

Speaker 2 4:04

You know, before 1800s, before the industrial age started, people just scrambled to survive, right? Well then they had some extra money and they're like, why not throw it at a wedding ceremony? And apparently it's taken off so people got married for money people got married because they had Well, no people had weddings elaborate, more elaborate weddings Because they had money, because they had money With the Industrial Revolution and that crap, right, right, and so it used to be. You'd get married to get the, not the bounty. What's it called?

Speaker 1 4:38

Dowry.

Speaker 2 4:38

The dowry.

Speaker 1 4:39

What you wouldn't get it.

Speaker 2 4:41

Well.

Speaker 1 4:41

You would get it.

Speaker 2 4:42

Well, you would.

Speaker 1 4:43

You would, I wouldn't, oh, I would, for my kids, kid daughter.

Speaker 2 4:47

You would, yeah, get it from the boy. The female's family would give the dowry.

Speaker 1 4:53

Usually, which sometimes.

Speaker 2 4:56

But not always Could be, Could be good.

Speaker 1 4:58

A goat.

Speaker 2 4:59

It could be a goat. That could be good though.

Speaker 1 5:01

Homemade bread for life.

Speaker 2 5:03

I would take that Homemade bread for life. I would take that Homemade bread for life. Show me who I got to marry.

Speaker 1 5:07

Yeah.

Speaker 2 5:08

Well, show me the bread first.

Speaker 1 5:10

Yeah, it does depend on the bread. Did you hear that?

Speaker 2 5:13

Sorry about that.

Speaker 1 5:15

Came up deep from inside Legal marriage.

Speaker 2 5:18

We're just going to skate over that. Legal marriage didn't really happen in the US until 1913. That seems late. Legal marriage didn't really happen in the US until 1913. Hmm, that seems late.

Speaker 1 5:28

Could only white people get married?

Speaker 2 5:30

No, I think everybody could then Okay, but then in 1929 is when all the states had laws that require marriage licenses.

Speaker 1 5:39

Wasn't that during the Depression?

Speaker 2 5:40

Well, 29, so yeah.

Speaker 1 5:42

Maybe that's what brought on the Great Depression, I don't know.

Speaker 2 5:44

Maybe everybody got married and now they're depressed.

Speaker 1 5:47

You know. Back to the money thing though.

Speaker 2 5:51

It's always the money.

Speaker 1 5:52

I think that too. Marrying for money, Not a get yourself a sugar mom or a sugar daddy, but combined incomes. You know, or you get family money or you get money at the wedding.

Speaker 2 6:08

Yes.

Speaker 1 6:09

You know, aside from the whole diary thing, it's kind of a financial decision, it can be a money maker.

Speaker 2 6:14

People do it not for tax purposes, people do. People do do it for insurance.

Speaker 1 6:19

You still knocking all those kids to work in the farm.

Speaker 2 6:21

People get married.

Speaker 1 6:22

Those are tax write-offs.

Speaker 2 6:24

For a lot of reasons.

Speaker 1 6:26

Love.

Speaker 2 6:26

Love. Hopefully is the first one We'll see. Yeah, commitment.

Speaker 1 6:30

They say, love will grow too, though.

Speaker 2 6:32

Pregnancy is a lot. It has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 1 6:35

Some of those people shouldn't get married just because they're not going to.

Speaker 2 6:38

I don't think it's true any longer, but it used to be true. If you were knocked up, you either got married or I don't know.

Speaker 1 6:47

Yeah, Now what was the legal age then?

Speaker 2 6:50

It depends on the state. Oh yeah, it does. It really depends on the state. Hey, isn't it like?

Speaker 1 6:54

16 in Michigan or something.

Speaker 2 6:55

I don't know If you get signed off Michigan or something. I don't know, if you get sick, sign dogs 17,. I think, okay, I don't know. Another reason is merging of families.

Speaker 1 7:05

Power.

Speaker 2 7:06

If you're royalty or if you are like Polish mafia. Okay, or I was thinking like if you are a Spaniard and you want to conquer the UK, you marry someone from that bloodline.

Speaker 1 7:20

No shit yeah Well.

Speaker 2 7:24

Another reason is religion.

Speaker 1 7:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2 7:29

Okay, well, yeah.

Speaker 1 7:31

Some people can't marry somebody that's not the same religion.

Speaker 2 7:34

Right, it seems archaic now, but it was a big deal not that long ago, what happened to love? Love, true love. There's another one, princess Bride that's got a wedding in it. Yeah, shrek too, oh Shrek. Wait, did they get married? Did they get married? Yeah, I think in the no at the end of it. Did they marry? And the donkey was singing the monkey's song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 8:03

What about that? Till death, do us part thing.

Speaker 2 8:06

Well, again, the vows can be kind of archaic.

Speaker 1 8:10

It stems from Christian wedding ceremonies apparently.

Speaker 2 8:12

I believe that Obey the husband.

Speaker 1 8:15

Well, damn right, marriage is seen as an unbreakable sacramental bond.

Speaker 2 8:22

Okay, that's what they said, white wedding dresses, oh, the whole wedding dress.

Speaker 1 8:29

Innocence, purity.

Speaker 2 8:30

You can spend a lot of cash on a wedding dress. Some people do.

Speaker 1 8:37

Yeah, where do you stand on that? I know we're getting away from all your facts there.

Speaker 2 8:40

Well, I tried not to get into wedding dresses too much, because that could be a whole other thing but like the spending, I guess the spending of the money. To me it's a wedding is just that it's a day in your, it's the first day of your life together in a marriage. So if you want to spend a lot on a wedding and you have the money, whatever, but don't mortgage your house, don't mortgage your parents' house, don't borrow so much that you have this big, beautiful wedding and then you know.

Speaker 1 9:13

You're screwed.

Speaker 2 9:14

You don't have any money to start your life with.

Speaker 1 9:16

Start fighting because you got no money, exactly, but you got that beautiful dress hanging in the closet.

Speaker 2 9:21

That you wore one time. Yep, mm-hmm. I do think it's a great idea they have rentals Mm-hmm, or to buy one that is, you know, already has been worn.

Speaker 1 9:35

I got a wedding dress story for you. Okay, my wife is always surprising me, but it started off early because, um, she's very low key, keep to herself, doesn't like being the center of attention, which was very interesting when it came to trying to plan a wedding, especially when you have a mom like mine who is very creative and out there and wants to do everything. And then her family was the same way Both good, but Brooke is very and I am very kind of you wouldn't know that private, quiet, and so she kind of kept it all in the down low. And her dad did give her money for a dress, which is great, but Brooke only wanted a few hundred bucks and she went out and bought a really nice.

Speaker 1 10:14

She looked beautiful, of course, most beautiful person in the world, I think that I'm wedding, but it was me and Julian sitting in the dress place I forget what it's called, and it was just. She came in and she tried on two dresses, I think it was, and I think it was the very first one she tried on and she's like how do you like this? I like this one. I said it looks great. She's like, okay, and that was it. I mean, it took 30 minutes maybe.

Wedding Traditions and Preferences

Speaker 2 10:34

Wow she would not be good on that. Say yes to the dress show because it's the drama that makes the shows like that and a lot of people do try on a lot of dresses. Excuse me, and I think what you, um, I know. When Jenna got married almost two years ago, she said she wanted a certain kind of dress until she started trying on dresses and she changed her mind. She said I didn't even know, I wanted a dress like this but I want this one.

Speaker 1 11:06

I guess everybody's different right.

Speaker 2 11:11

Anyway, yeah, you can spend a lot on a dress. You can spend a lot on a wedding, which is why some people elope. What is your take on elopement?

Speaker 1 11:21

I told both our kids to do it.

Speaker 2 11:22

Please do it I offered a ton of money. I'm like if you elope, I will pay you off.

Speaker 1 11:27

Well, the thing is like weddings. I don't know, I'm just anti, I don't know.

Speaker 2 11:31

Well, I think this is true. As soon as you decide you're getting married and you start making the list of guests to invite to the wedding, somebody's pissed.

Speaker 1 11:42

Yeah, oh yeah, somebody's mad. Yeah, you had a story about that.

Speaker 2 11:46

I'm not going into it because. I don't want to relive it, but people get mad.

Speaker 1 11:51

For dumb reasons. It's not even about them and they get all pissed off.

Speaker 2 11:53

It's not about the guests at the wedding. It's about the two people who are getting married.

Speaker 1 11:58

So the guests at the wedding.

Speaker 2 11:58

It's about the two people who are getting married. Oh yeah, so when Jenna got married, I said we'll help you, but you decide. I'm not making any decisions, I'm not insisting on anything. It's your wedding, do it how you want to. And I just talked to somebody last weekend who said, boy, jenna's wedding was just the best, also, I think, because they served only beer and wine and not alcohol. Okay yeah, it was not a cash bar, so I don't know A lot of people don't like that either. Nicks on the cash bar Traditional.

Speaker 1 12:33

So types of weddings There'll be less people that will go to weddings if there weren't alcohol there.

Speaker 2 12:38

Probably, probably.

Speaker 1 12:40

Probably A lot of people skip the wedding.

Speaker 2 12:42

It does.

Speaker 1 12:43

I've been to too many. I fucked the wedding up because I was drunk, because you were drunk. Yeah, I was 21 years old. It was on my birthday.

Speaker 2 12:53

Sorry about that, jason. They were kind of asking for it.

Speaker 1 12:55

Jason, they ended up getting a divorce Could have been bad, juju, because for it they ended up getting a divorce.

Speaker 2 13:02

Well see, could have been bad juju Because of me, but anyway, alright. So types of wedding, so civil wedding, Civil it's not even a wedding, it's just a civil service where you just get married.

Speaker 1 13:10

Courthouse or wherever?

Speaker 2 13:11

Yeah, so you're legally married, then of course you can do religious in the church or temple or mosque or whatever. My favorite is a destination wedding.

Speaker 1 13:22

Yeah.

Speaker 2 13:24

Well, I think it depends on the destination, Mike. What?

Speaker 1 13:26

did you guys do.

Speaker 2 13:27

Well, we eloped without leaving town.

Speaker 1 13:30

No, she didn't.

Speaker 2 13:31

We didn't. I watched my life we didn't tell anyone we were getting married except Cassidy, who was about eight, anyone we were getting married except Cassidy, who was about eight. And we went to the Justice of the Peace and got married with Cassidy in tow. Used a couple people that we happen to know because everybody knows everybody and they were our witnesses and they didn't even know we were getting married. In fact, we walked up there and she said Are you here to pay a speeding ticket? No, actually.

Speaker 2 13:59

I'm getting married, cool. And then we had asked our parents to go out to lunch afterwards. And told them and we went out to lunch and we told them we got married. And then I remember, when we were leaving the restaurant, the waitress said to my mom and my mother-in-law she said I didn't know you were married or I didn't know you were related.

Speaker 1 14:19

And my mom said I didn't know you were married or I didn't know you were related, and my mom said we didn't know we were related when we walked in here. That's cool, though. Yeah, it was fun, because it should be just between you and the person I don't know. Yeah, it was fun and the few people you wanted.

Speaker 2 14:29

And we didn't want a big wedding or anything. We did miss out on a lot of gifts come. We didn't do that, we could have a new blender come on you want one, I'll get you a blender. No, um also types of wedding indoor or outdoor. Those outdoor ones are a crapshoot yeah, they are yeah, because you just don't know what it's going to be like. I was at a wedding a couple years ago just pouring. Can we go inside? Nope, wanted wedding.

Speaker 1 14:58

It was raining the whole time it was pouring, excuse me. Outdoors, though, I mean indoor ones, can get pretty decked out, but the outdoor ones can be really pretty.

Speaker 2 15:10

Oh, they're beautiful if the weather is beautiful or if it's on a beach or something like that, Sure it's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 15:16

What's your take on the flower thing?

Speaker 2 15:21

I think again like dresses man you can go nuts, drop a lot of cash on them you know there was originally to ward off spirits oh, is that why again. They carried like herbs and garlic and stuff no kidding oh, okay yeah, well, how do you feel about throwing the bouquet and the garter? That that tradition?

Speaker 1 15:38

I don't like it, the garter thing. Every time it would come up I would disappear. I'd go outside hide in the bathroom. I think it's like come on.

Speaker 2 15:45

Yeah, you could put a garter. You don't know who's going to catch it. It could be good, it could be really bad.

Speaker 1 15:52

Keep your eye on the guys that are trying to get those garters. It's usually some lazy uncle, sorry.

Speaker 2 15:59

Sorry to all your uncles.

Speaker 1 16:02

Everywhere Uncles everywhere.

Speaker 2 16:03

Another thing that came about because of COVID really is a micro wedding, so it's a small wedding, like less than 30 people or so, and during COVID, of course, it became very popular.

Speaker 1 16:16

Perfect. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 2 16:19

But again and 30 people, so you get 70 people pissed off at you.

Speaker 1 16:24

Whatever Ushers.

Speaker 2 16:26

Ushers and bridesmaids.

Speaker 1 16:28

What about those? Wait, groomsmen, you got groomsmen. Bridesmaids, bridesmaids and ushers, ushers.

Speaker 2 16:35

And don't forget flower girls ring bearers. Some people and don't forget flower girls ring bears Don't have a dog as a ring bear either.

Speaker 1 16:40

I actually just talked to somebody who was the guy that got to walk the dogs down the aisle. Two dogs, I guess, with the rings for each person.

Speaker 2 16:52

But they're big into the hunting and hunting dogs Well, and some people are very you know, their dogs are their family. I get that. But dogs don't want to be ring bears, they really don't want to do it.

Speaker 1 17:01

They want to lick someone's butt. The ushers.

Speaker 2 17:08

Ancient.

Speaker 1 17:08

Roman times. You know what they were for.

Speaker 2 17:11

To keep people out of the wedding.

Speaker 1 17:13

Kind of yeah, to protect the bride, make sure she didn't get kidnapped. Oh, that seems that's a harsh wedding man, I want to go to that wedding.

Speaker 2 17:22

Do you? I bet you can. I'm picturing it like medieval times.

Speaker 1 17:27

Yeah.

Speaker 2 17:28

You ever eat at one of those.

Speaker 1 17:29

No, I have not. I haven't either.

Speaker 2 17:31

I'm not big into the Renaissance, no, I mean it's kind of cool, but I haven't gone to a Renaissance fair either, which.

Speaker 1 17:37

I would do that.

Speaker 2 17:39

And my sister Sal hey Sal. She got married at a Renaissance fair.

Speaker 1 17:44

Did she know?

Speaker 2 17:45

She knew it was a Renaissance fair and she wanted to do something. That was her second wedding and they wanted to do something kind of unique and my that was unique. I was not in attendance, but she rode an elephant. Oh my gosh. Are you kidding me right now At a renaissance fair At a renaissance fair wedding, because that ties in with the Indian weddings.

Speaker 1 18:10

They're like week-long things Now that would be something, but that's pretty pricey.

Speaker 2 18:14

Well, you gotta have money to do a week-long anything.

Speaker 1 18:18

But I always thought those were neat because they're very colorful. They'd carry on for days, days and days. She rode an elephant.

Speaker 2 18:26

Yeah, at a renaissance festival. Yeah, on her wedding day.

Speaker 1 18:30

Yeah, that's memorable. Are they still married?

Speaker 2 18:32

Yes, they are, hey, Jeff. So I want to give a bow to the knit ladies who gave me a lot of good wedding info. The knitting ladies Okay, so I was with them last weekend. We went to a fiber fair. That was Barbara, linda, marsha, dee, nancy, julie, paulette, lori and Beth, and maybe I think I covered everybody, but they have. They give me a lot of good information and I want you to know this is what they thought were heroes Was dancing at a wedding Cake. I always love the cake. Happy bride and groom.

Speaker 2 19:12

Because it really is about them. And then the dick part of it Did not like a cash bar. Nobody likes that. No Drunken wedding party or relatives, yeah. And like we talked about, as soon as the invite list is made, somebody's offended mad whatever Yep. Yeah, they also said and I thought this was helpful hero, part of it family reunion, you know.

Speaker 2 19:44

The dick part, family fights, family reunion, family reunion, the hero of a wedding, a small, intimate wedding and a dick part was like a tacky, cheap wedding, or one so stupidly large and expensive that it seems unnecessary.

Speaker 1 20:01

Yeah so thanks, ladies. Great input.

Speaker 2 20:04

They were very helpful. They did did say one more thing they said was keep it personal. That makes it a hero, and keep it a wedding is a step into marriage sure and then the dick part wedding for the sake of wedding, because all your friends are doing it or because you feel you have to. That's not cool.

Speaker 1 20:25

Well, I think that's what people fall in the trappings of that.

Speaker 2 20:28

They do, they're trying to make other people happy instead of doing what they want to do, yes, instead of doing what the two of them want to do.

Speaker 1 20:35

You're better off just pissing people off and doing what you want to do you are, than suffering you are because then you remember the day as you wanted it, as you wanted it.

Speaker 2 20:42

Yes, absolutely so. Do you have anything else to add about weddings?

Speaker 1 20:49

Well, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 20:51

What you got.

Speaker 1 20:51

You covered most of the destination weddings, the family gathering, the cultural preservation. So tradition you know.

Speaker 2 20:59

Tradition. I get why some people do it. Tradition. Yeah, that's a wedding movie too. Yep, a fiddler on the roof.

Speaker 1 21:06

Divorce rates 40% to 50%.

Speaker 2 21:09

Yeah, I gave one year gave somebody. This is what magazines still cost quite a bit. So I gave him a gift and then with that gift I gave him a magazine subscription and before the magazine subscription ran out they were divorced.

Speaker 1 21:28

What was the magazine subscription?

Speaker 2 21:29

I think it was a Better. Homes and Gardens Did not work for them. No, you think that did it.

Speaker 1 21:35

All the pressure of that magazine.

Speaker 2 21:36

The pressure of the magazine.

Speaker 1 21:37

Yeah, I did have a few bizarre things. In parts of Austria, rural Austria, friends kidnapped the bride during the wedding reception. Oh, it's a prank. They kind of challenged the groom to find her.

Speaker 2 21:50

What if he doesn't? I guess, no marriage, no wedding.

Speaker 1 21:54

No, no wedding. The longest engagement on record lasted 67 years. Oh, the couple married when they were both 90 years old.

Speaker 2 22:01

Wow, were they sure of it?

Speaker 1 22:05

Maybe, maybe they didn't know they were going to marry him?

Speaker 2 22:07

Did they get divorced? Maybe they didn't know.

Speaker 1 22:09

And then in France you can marry a dead person, as long as you have the president's permission. It's a practice that was rooted in tragic events during World War I, so apparently people wanted to marry their dead soldier.

Speaker 2 22:24

Oh, that's sad.

Speaker 1 22:26

Yeah, you're kind of locking yourself in there. You are, because how are you going to get a divorce from the dead? You?

Speaker 2 22:30

think of all those quick marriages that happened during wars. You know I'm going off to World War II and I'm going to be in D-Day. Should we get married? You probably should before you leave.

Speaker 1 22:40

Mm-hmm. What about the dudes that got married over there? Did they meet there To like?

Speaker 2 22:48

France Women from France and UK.

Speaker 1 22:51

Yeah, wherever Just soldiers yeah they brought them home, yeah. I like that.

Speaker 2 22:55

Sometimes, yeah, yeah, just think, if there wasn't a war they would have never met. So some happy endings.

Speaker 1 23:01

Yeah.

Speaker 2 23:01

Not everybody dies. I just watched a bunch of DJ movies because it was the anniversary of it oh. So they were on like all day long and a lot of people died.

Speaker 1 23:11

What's one of them? That's all right if you don't remember.

Speaker 2 23:16

Well, the best one is they being Private Ryan.

Speaker 1 23:19

Oh God yeah.

Speaker 2 23:21

And I always feel like I owe it to those people who were there to watch the first 25 minutes of it and it's so tough to watch Brutal. It's not a wedding movie. No If you're looking for a wedding movie, don't watch that one, but it was really good.

Speaker 1 23:36

That is a tough one.

Speaker 2 23:37

Yeah.

Speaker 1 23:37

It's a great movie.

Speaker 2 23:38

It is a wonderful movie, so, okay, back to happy weddings.

Speaker 1 23:42

Happy weddings.

Speaker 2 23:48

No, I got so okay, back to happy weddings. Happy weddings, um no, I got nothing else, I know that well, stress that comes with it. Oh, my god, it's so again it's like do what you want to do, you do, even if. Even if everything goes pretty smooth, it's still pretty stressful, you know, um, but you know, maybe that means you have commitment to to this person. If you're willing to go through all that BS, then when I was getting married, we did it small you had a micro wedding.

Speaker 1 24:12

It was pretty much, we only had six people.

Speaker 2 24:13

I was in a meeting.

Speaker 1 24:14

I said nope, I only had like six or eight people at the actual ceremony. It was in the old church that we used to own out in Heron. That was really cool having such a few people there. My buddy Mike played the piano for us. It was all junky piano. We played the piano as Brooke was coming in, but I was such a wreck, I'm telling you, like I couldn't even look at her while I was saying the vowels because I was going to bawl Crying, crying, crying.

Speaker 2 24:38

Like, if I think about it, I'm going to bawl.

Speaker 1 24:40

Like I felt bad because afterwards, like you didn't even look at her, I'm like I couldn't. If I would have looked at her, I could have not made it through my vowels. There's no way I could have.

Speaker 2 24:48

Oh man. Well, Jenna and Mike got married in a planetarium, which was cool.

Speaker 1 24:52

I think it's called the planetarium, the planetarium from South Park.

Speaker 2 24:58

I don't know South Park.

Speaker 1 24:59

I only know a few things.

Speaker 2 25:05

Anyway, so they got married. So they got married in planetarium and during the ceremony, they had the sun coming up. Oh man, it was really nice yeah and what was great for the mom of the bride who was crying is it was kind of dark, nobody could see me? Yeah, the baby's getting married, but I love jenna and and they did it right so good job.

Speaker 1 25:27

I kind of hope my kids do elope. I don't know That'll be tough watching them get married.

Speaker 2 25:32

It was really emotional and you know, during the rehearsal I can do this, I can do it.

Speaker 1 25:42

Last Tough. Not because I'm not going to, I'm not, you know like, oh, I hate horrible.

Speaker 2 25:46

No because no, it's a big deal. It is a big deal yeah.

Speaker 1 25:50

Oh my God, Just thinking about it.

Speaker 2 25:52

Yes, yeah, it's tough stuff. It's an emotional time, yeah.

Speaker 1 25:55

Yeah, go get married in Hawaii by yourselves, kids.

Speaker 2 25:57

Well, send me some pictures opposed to a destination wedding for them. Anyhow, here's some fast five wedding-related fast fives. Okay, so bridal showers, which they now most of them are. You know it used to be just the women and then they'd shower gifts on the bride. Now they're co-ed, so they have the groom there too. Sometimes he doesn't want to be there. I was at a couple. I was there too. Sometimes he doesn't want to be there.

Speaker 1 26:28

I was at a couple. I was like yeah, I don't want to be here. You want me to tell you what I think.

Speaker 2 26:31

Yeah, you're always big oh dick. Shower Dick. It's nice to get the presents but, man, you got to go through a lot to get them.

Speaker 1 26:37

I feel bad for the bride, like all the games and the stupid stuff Stupid games.

Speaker 2 26:41

They're really stupid. Yeah, sorry, you win Sometimes I shouldn't say that there's people listening.

Speaker 1 26:46

I like that stuff. There's nobody listening, that's true.

Speaker 2 26:49

How about bachelorette parties?

Speaker 1 26:51

I don't like those either. Or bachelor parties you see them come out, it's like come on, oh yeah. Every time we.

Speaker 2 27:07

I think people go and there they are wearing the sashes and they're drunk and it's like, really, this is how you're gonna celebrate getting married. I don't know, this seems stupid.

Speaker 1 27:10

Yep, and then at a bachelor party, you get a stripper and watch porn well it doesn't make any sense do people do that still? I don't know. I think if you want to do something, hang out with, go golfing or go fit go do something with your buddies, don't get a stripper, it's just an excuse. I don't get it.

Speaker 2 27:27

How about? Well, we went through this one, garter.

Speaker 1 27:31

Don't like it.

Speaker 2 27:32

Dick Agreed. How about the dollar dance?

Speaker 1 27:38

Ah Christ, I'm going to say hero because you know what I like. The idea behind it Get a few bucks for behind it, you get a few bucks. You get a few bucks, but again you got the uncle that's dancing for too long, yeah, stuffing 20s in her garter belt or whatever. Sorry, that's terrible. What kind of weddings have I been to I?

Speaker 2 27:54

don't know. You need to go to different you know, did you ever have to do?

Speaker 1 27:57

no, you didn't.

Speaker 2 27:58

I had to dance in a bucket oh, okay, that was, that was something, but it was a baby a baby pool wasn't a bucket. Because you were the older sibling and Kevin was getting married.

Speaker 1 28:09

Yeah, that was not fun, I know.

Speaker 2 28:11

I think I was at that wedding. Was it at the armory?

Speaker 1 28:15

I can't remember. I thought it was Maple Ridge Hall, but it could have been the armory.

Speaker 2 28:18

I don't remember anything, I don't know. You know we're going to have a podcast about. Memory, my memory loss due to alcoholism.

Speaker 1 28:27

But yeah, what was the next one?

Speaker 2 28:34

The last one. We did cover this one too. But just to clarify cash bar Dick Dick, total dick, yeah. Why don't you just charge them for the meal too? That's a good idea. No, it's not. You want people to come and celebrate you getting married. You're giving them a meal and a couple of drinks. Sure, dance on the dance floor. Oh, one thing I want to mention that Jenna would not do at hers was certain different dancings. No, chicken dance, which she didn't do too. Why are people doing that at a wedding? I don't know, chickens don't have rhythm.

Speaker 1 29:07

No, Neither do people.

Speaker 2 29:09

They should have done the Soul Train line, but they didn't. But we did do a conga line and that was super fun.

Speaker 1 29:14

You love the conga line.

Speaker 2 29:15

I do love the conga line and actually at Jay and Laney's wedding that was the most recent wedding I was at in Seattle, which was a great wedding, beautiful venue, it was just perfect and we did do a conga line there too, I think it's because you like destination weddings. Well, yes, that's true, and I do like a conga line, because they weren't doing it. And I went up there and said let's do a conga line. They're like yeah.

Speaker 1 29:39

And then they did. They worked the macarena in they worked that frickin' alligator thing.

Speaker 2 29:45

What's that alligator thing?

Speaker 1 29:48

I don't know that one. Hokey, pokey, I don't know. There's some where you roll on the floor. Oh, I don't know that one. You don't do that in your nice clothes.

Speaker 2 29:52

No, no, that's just not cool. But I do think it's fun to dance at a wedding.

Speaker 1 29:57

You like dancing.

Speaker 2 29:59

I do, I don't like it. You're not doing it right.

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Speaker 1 30:04

Then you need to get in the conga line get out of your mind and get into your body so, overall, I say weddings are heroes if you want them to be yep, I agree, or they can be dicks as well they can be alright, that's what I got about weddings yeah, yeah, that's all I got too. I got all the stuff we can talk about, but we can do that after this. Yeah, what are we doing here? We got an email address. It's herordick2023 at gmailcom. You're right, somebody write a fucking email. Cassidy knows it.

Speaker 2 30:42

Cassidy sends us emails Somebody other than Cassidy should send us an email.

Speaker 1 30:46

Just so we know it works. Oh, you know what? I should have brought up our stats? They came up earlier.

Speaker 2 30:50

Oh okay, Do you want it? No?

Speaker 1 30:53

Okay, because I forget the logic.

Speaker 2 30:54

Next time we'll have that.

Speaker 1 30:55

Yeah, we should.

Speaker 2 30:56

Yeah, because it will be season 2, episode 12.

Speaker 1 30:59

Yeah, what should we do for that?

Speaker 2 31:01

I don't know why don't people email us. You can text us too, yeah.

Speaker 1 31:06

Or if you see us. Or if you see us, write us a letter, send a carrier pigeon.

Speaker 2 31:11

We'll take it all Well. Thanks for listening. Thank you.