Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S2., Ep. 12 - Bookstores
Ever wondered why bookstores feel like a magical retreat? Join us for an episode near and dear to our hearts--BOOKSTORES!
We share our thoughts and insights about bookstores--big ones, small ones--and we even discuss Mr. Amazon's humble beginnings' rooted in a garage.
Grab a cup of coffee and join us for a heartwarming episode that celebrates the magic of bookstores and the joy of reading.
Thanks!
~ Kate & KJ
Ever wondered why bookstores feel like a magical retreat? Join us for an episode near and dear to our hearts--BOOKSTORES!
We share our thoughts and insights about bookstores--big ones, small ones--and we even discuss Mr. Amazon's humble beginnings' rooted in a garage.
Grab a cup of coffee and join us for a heartwarming episode that celebrates the magic of bookstores and the joy of reading.
Thanks!
~ Kate & KJ
Hello.
Speaker 2:I can hear you.
Speaker 1:Okay, here we are. Hi, we're so professional.
Speaker 2:Hello.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Season 2, Episode 12 of Hero or Dick. This is KG.
Speaker 2:And Kate.
Speaker 1:And we're at it again. I'm not prepared. As usual. As normal, sorry, I actually did no research. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I think though, for our topic you would know, I mean, you could not even write some notes.
Speaker 1:I'm always good at making stuff up too. Yeah Well fact, check us people Fact check us Both my mom and my wife got me on Sunday, went over there to visit and they were both talking about I'm a BSer, I've always made up stories. I do, but not Is there a shred of truth to them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, when I was little I was Well, you know, I was a little liar Bullshit. I remember telling kids at school that I had a motorbike or whatever A dirt bike, a dirt bike. And the lunch lady busted me out in front of all the other kids.
Speaker 2:Oh, what a lunch, lady, oh.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, she didn't like me anyway.
Speaker 2:So our topic this week.
Speaker 1:Is motorbikes. No, it's bookstores.
Speaker 2:Bookstores.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it came. I'm going to give myself credit for it. Yes, you can, because we were somewhere, my wife and I and oh, it was just my wife and I. Oh, we took Julian to his Midland for his college orientation and we skipped out on Parrot Park. I've been there, we went to the bar. I would have done that in a day. The brewery, actually, we went to the Midland Mall and stopped at Barnes Noble.
Speaker 1:Barnes, noble A place that everybody hated when it first came out because they said they were going to destroy all the small bookstores. And now people are hoping.
Speaker 2:Please stay in business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, please stay in business because Jeff Bezos' garage business has taken over the world.
Speaker 2:Well, I think I have. Barnes Noble has 600 retail stores in the US, which is a lot less than A lot less, but that's still pretty good. What do?
Speaker 1:you like about that place.
Speaker 2:Well, the one that we frequent is huge and they have an upstairs and a downstairs. Also, they have a really good magazine selection. I appreciate that because I like magazines. I know it's cool to read them online, not have a print copy.
Speaker 1:It's tough, though, isn't it? Yeah, sometimes I like having a print copy. It's tough, though, isn't it? Yeah, sometimes I like having a print copy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I can breeze them on my Kindle, but I like having a print copy.
Speaker 1:The magazine selection is still pretty darn good. It was really good.
Speaker 2:I was at a Barnes Noble this past weekend and I bought magazines.
Speaker 1:What's left besides Barnes Noble? No more Walden Books.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think Walden Books is around anymore. I'm not sure, let's see. I looked up corporate versus independent and of course Barnes Noble was the only one that came up In the US. In the UK you have Waterstones.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Excuse me, which in London, in Piccadilly, there is a huge, huge waterstones Like you could be in there for days.
Speaker 1:That's yeah.
Speaker 2:Days. It's, I don't know, six or seven floors. It's got a cafeteria.
Speaker 1:That's amazing.
Speaker 2:It's you could, I could live there.
Speaker 1:Easy, easy. Bookstores are great. I don't even have to, I could just sit in a bookstore.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't have to read, I could, just it's just something, it's an atmosphere, having the books around well, when I asked jenna about bookstores, she said her pro tip is to read the book while in the store.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because when she was in about second grade we were in Canada on vacation and we went into their version of Walden's or whatever.
Speaker 1:Was it called Books eh?
Speaker 2:No, I wish it was. It was called Chapters, chapters, and I believe that they're still around, and so she picked out a Junie B Jones book.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's the devil's book.
Speaker 2:Come on, junie B Jones, they're banning those things. Why.
Speaker 1:I don't know. We just heard about it. A couple weeks ago my wife told me.
Speaker 2:Junie B Jones is a sweet little kid.
Speaker 1:I don't think so she's kind of brainy. Yeah, that's why they don't like her. You don't want smart, powerful young women.
Speaker 2:So I let her pick out a book. And then I browsed around and we were killing time. We were not in any great hurry and I was looking at a book. She slammed that shut. Well, I'm done. I said okay, you can pick out another one if you want. So that's her pro tip.
Speaker 1:Read it in the store. I like going and Brooke and I were doing this just pick random books off the shelf and open it and just see if it gets your attention or not. That first paragraph it should, or wherever it is in the book.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I know that's a harsh way to judge writers, but I think if it's good, that section should be pretty good.
Speaker 2:I don't think that's a harsh way and I know this is more a library thing than a bookstore, although it applies to any book. My mom always said take a book, open it randomly and just start reading, and if it like you said, if it keeps your attention then it's probably a book that you want.
Speaker 1:Was she like a romance reader? My mom, no. What did she read?
Speaker 2:She read everything but her and my dad really liked westerns like Louis L'Oreal and who's the other guy? Zane Grey.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:And she liked stuff that you had to use your brain for. I like that. No romance.
Speaker 1:Like literary fiction, maybe once in a while.
Speaker 2:She did say this before too, and I think this is true. She said every now and then you got to cleanse your brain with a smutty romance.
Speaker 1:Was that a book or just in life?
Speaker 2:Well, I think it was a book but you know, I didn't ask her. So I do think it's true. There's no shame. Read whatever you want.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yeah, who cares? You're reading.
Speaker 2:If you were reading, you're reading.
Speaker 1:If you're reading, you're creating it in your brain.
Speaker 2:I do know some very smart women who work like, as I can't even think of the title of their job. One is physical therapist and one is like a teacher at Cleveland University, is that?
Speaker 1:a place. Yeah, sure Sounds like it.
Speaker 2:And anyway, when they go on vacation they read the rom-coms because they're around stuff all week long, that is not romance, I get it. So that kind of washes your brain a bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that's the and this isn't related, but it kind of is. It has nothing to do with books, but the same aspect for, like, when you just want to numb out and watch something on TV.
Speaker 2:I believe that's true. Yeah, something that you don't have to think about.
Speaker 1:But still it's pretty cool because books writing it's magical because you are creating in your head. That writer can say it's a red dress, but you picture a red dress and what I see might not be what you see Absolutely. You create in the character.
Speaker 2:You can describe a character, but there's a really famous um uh sequence of books that started with outlander and they turned it into a series and I what I loved the books. I highly recommend them. I can't think of the author's name. It starts with a, g, gil globin, and I can't think of her. But just look up Outlander. Very thick book. She's got so much detail in them and I read the first one and I loved it and the series came out.
Speaker 1:On TV.
Speaker 2:On TV, hated it.
Speaker 1:Hated it.
Speaker 2:Those aren't the people in my brain.
Speaker 1:Right, no, yeah, that happens with music for me too, like If you see the lyrics first. No, like you hear the song and you see your own video in your head and then you see the video and you're like ah crap.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Then every time you hear the damn song. You see that video instead of the one you had in your head, Instead of the one you had in your head.
Speaker 2:Well, I quit watching that Outlander because of that. Like no, that's not that was a huge series jamie, and I can't think of the girl's name, jamie, whatever they are but, yeah, and I'm sure you know people love the outlander series too, uh, on tv, but not for me.
Speaker 2:They'll stick to the books yep, okay, so back to bookstores now I want to mention this place. That's heaven on earth and I I'm going to go there one day. It's called Hay-on-Way, I think it's pronounced way, h-a-y-o-n-w-y-e, and it is a market town in Wales and, depending on the source, one said they have over 20 bookstores, one said they have over 40 bookstores.
Speaker 2:And that's their claim to fame and so they have all these bookstores. They do like a festival once a year, but they pull the tourists in to come and look at the bookstores and I would totally go there. Yeah, I think that would be great.
Speaker 1:I do too, and you know what I just thought of for one of our ideas, a business idea. You ready for this? I am. We buy the rest of these little barbershops in town and each one is its own little bookstore. One's a poetry bookstore. I love it. One's fiction Isn't that a good idea?
Speaker 2:Okay. Stay tuned for that one, that is, this would be a really cute bookstore.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:And it would be doable, because you wouldn't have to. It's not like a huge space that you have to fill. No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Just put some shelves up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, we're on.
Speaker 1:You hear that, brooke, we'll let you know when that opens Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Did you know Amazon started as a bookstore?
Speaker 1:Yeah, some people forgot that I think In Jeff Bezos' garage In his garage. That's nuts.
Speaker 2:He had a good banking job too, and he quit it. He's like I'm going to do this.
Speaker 1:I hear he did well for it. He doesn't even look the same anymore. No, he doesn't. The funny thing money will do. He's like all buff and stuff.
Speaker 2:Well, he can pay for it now. Maybe he's an AI and he's just like the avatar. Oh yeah, it could be Anyway.
Speaker 1:Part of the conspiracy. I know people slam him, but he's a smart guy, he's doing something right. They slam him because he's successful. I think so, the more successful you are, the less people like you.
Speaker 2:Some people, and he had a great idea and he executed it. I think he had a wife too. That really helped him out.
Speaker 1:Probably got rid of her when he got successful.
Speaker 2:No, I think just recently they got divorced, like within the past five years. He probably got a trophy.
Speaker 1:She's helping some other guy now. She's going to make another guy successful?
Speaker 2:I hope she's just relaxing with her gazillion dollars. She got in the divorce. Yeah, they started that in 1995. And look at where it is now. I mean, look crazy. Cassidy wanted to give a shout out, or ballyhoo, to a bookstore's cousin online called Thrift Books. Did you ever go on Thrift Books?
Speaker 1:Thrift Books. Thrift Books, thrift Books. It's online.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's an online store and you can buy used books.
Speaker 1:I like used books.
Speaker 2:They are fabulous.
Speaker 1:I think that Barnes Noble should have a used book section.
Speaker 2:Well, how about John King? Did you ever go to that? That's the biggest.
Speaker 1:In Detroit.
Speaker 2:Yes, the largest used bookstore in Michigan, maybe. I don't know about the world, but Michigan for sure. It's an old warehouse in Detroit. Oh yeah, and four or five floors of used books. It's amazing. It is amazing. And don't go there in August. So, people, it is like 150 degrees inside. It's not air conditioned, it's an old warehouse.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 2:They had fans going everywhere. But, oh my God, I remember it was super hot.
Speaker 1:There's one like that in St Paul, I think, when I lived there, but I drank a lot during that time so I don't remember completely. So it was a little fuzzy, but I do remember going there. Um, on saturdays we would hit up barnes and noble, go drink for a little bit, and then we'd go to this other place. It was this big, huge old house, but I mean huge, huge could have almost mansion size, and it was a bookstore. There was three stories oh, that would be fun.
Speaker 1:That's pretty cool it's a good way to spend the saturday yeah maybe not Well that's a good way, but I just don't do it anymore.
Speaker 2:So the most famous in the US, the most famous bookstore, according to the internet, is 45th Parallel.
Speaker 1:Is it the one downtown? It's not, oh.
Speaker 2:It's not Shout out to them though.
Speaker 1:Thank you for reviving that store. Yeah, it's nice to have a bookstore. It is we won't take you out of business when we open our barbershop. Books.
Speaker 2:No, we'll be in congruent.
Speaker 1:And we'll have just used books.
Speaker 2:Oh are we.
Speaker 1:Oh, you want new books. I don't know. I don't want used paperback books though.
Speaker 2:What I love a paperback.
Speaker 1:A used one Paperback. Yeah, I think it's dirty. I guess I still love it. Look, this isn't going to work. You know what?
Speaker 2:Maybe because then I don't feel bad taking it to the beach or if a page rips out or whatever.
Speaker 1:I don't care.
Speaker 2:That's okay, it's just a paperback. I prefer paperback over hardcover.
Speaker 1:Do you think we could sell baked goods too?
Speaker 2:Are you a baker now?
Speaker 1:No, you bake. No, somebody's got to bake. I don't bake, I like cookies. I eat. Yeah, me too.
Speaker 2:So the most famous bookstore in the US is the Strand in New York City.
Speaker 1:I like that name.
Speaker 2:Their claim to fame is they have 18 miles of books 18 miles. Hmm, that's a lot of books, 18 miles.
Speaker 1:Hmm, that's a lot of books.
Speaker 2:That's a lot of books. I'm assuming they're going by.
Speaker 1:Sure, it's a strand, row by row, a really long strand.
Speaker 2:It's a really long strand Another big one.
Speaker 1:Is it in New York City? New York City, yeah.
Speaker 2:I've never been to that one.
Speaker 1:Oh, there you go, there's another really large one in portland oregon. Uh, it's called powell's. No, I've heard of powell's, have you they're online too.
Speaker 2:Now, oh, are they right? Yeah, okay, city of books is what they call them, and they're what they're city of books that's what their nickname is okay and they take them a whole black city, black in powells or in portland, in Portland. So how about independent versus corporate? Independent, of course, is usually smaller, not necessarily, but usually Sure. So that's a pro and a con, same with corporation. They're bigger, pro and a con.
Speaker 1:They're all smaller than Amazon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, everything is smaller than amazon so what do you prefer?
Speaker 1:independent?
Speaker 2:well, of course, independent. I want to support people who want to make a living at it, and I think the selection at independence can be a bit broader, because they aren't serving, you know, the big authors that you're going to hear about anyway yeah, you can get some indie.
Speaker 1:What's the deal with that? That was one thing.
Speaker 2:Brooke, my lovely wife I bring up every podcast because, unlike Jason Bateman, she pays attention to us. We're on to Conan O'Brien now.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, that's right, but anyway, it really is. Everybody in New York Times bestseller. I swear every book New York Times bestseller. I swear every book New York Times bestseller. New York, come on. That tells me the New York Times has given up too many awards Given up too many.
Speaker 2:Well, and everybody has heard of Stephen King and. John Grisham, I don't want to take anything away from them. I love them both, but we've heard of you.
Speaker 1:So if we go to an indie bookstore, you're more apt to find indie authors.
Speaker 2:The great regional local writers yes, local.
Speaker 1:Or people that you've never heard of.
Speaker 2:Right, right, mm-hmm. So again, pro and con for both of them, and the new versus used. You know the new yeah, you get a fresh book. Sometimes you got to have a fresh book.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:But sometimes I like to get those thrift book paperbacks and that I don't feel bad if they get trashed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like garage sale finds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Depends on how much they're charging.
Speaker 1:Sometimes they charge too much, but yeah, what's it going right at a garage sale?
Speaker 2:Oh a bag of books A bag of books, like when you go to the library and they have their book sale. Hmm, at the last day you can get a bag of books for like $2 or something.
Speaker 1:Probably crappy books by then. Well, it's whatever's left. What about the Apex one? Isn't there a big one?
Speaker 2:I've never gone to that one man. I like books. I do like books a little too much. I have a lot and I agree with the T-shirt that says it's not hoarding if it's books.
Speaker 1:Right, it's not. I would never wear it, but I agree with that. I wish there was books in every room of our house lining the walls.
Speaker 2:I might have that already. Yeah, that's awesome Corporate One thing I do like is they get awesome coffee shops and stuff like that they usually do have a coffee shop and you can get a cookie and yeah.
Speaker 1:But it's expensive.
Speaker 2:It is shop and you can get a cookie and yeah, but it's expensive it is, but well for us anyway who don't have access to it every day, it's a, it's a real treat I think every bookstore should have coffee, even if you just got a pot out for people for free agreed and booksellers are usually friendly, happy people.
Speaker 2:And I have to tell you I was in a bookstore this weekend in holland. It wasn't the martin the noble, it was the indie. I don't even know the name of it because I didn't buy anything. And I have to tell you, I was in a bookstore this weekend in Holland. It wasn't the Martin Noble, it was Indy. I don't even know the name of it because I didn't buy anything there, because the lady was kind of bitchy.
Speaker 1:What was her problem?
Speaker 2:You know it was hot and they were all eh. And then this torqued me too when some customers walked out of the door, they were bad-mouthing them. I'm like what are they going to say when?
Speaker 1:I leave.
Speaker 2:I'm not buying anything from you. Is what?
Speaker 1:they're going to say they were bad-mouthing the customer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they weren't like saying she's a fat ugly bitch or anything, but they were like, could they pick a more inconvenient time to ask us all these questions? And it's like you're a freaking bookstore.
Speaker 1:It's your job. You're a freaking bookstore. You want to sell a book. Answer the questions.
Speaker 2:Well, they didn't sell any to me.
Speaker 1:That's it. We're banning that store.
Speaker 2:I don't even know the name of it. I'm just banning that lady.
Speaker 1:Maybe her, I don't know. I like it when you go into those bookstores and sometimes the person they're not rude, but they don't even acknowledge you exist like the owner. I you exist like the owner.
Speaker 2:I would rather have that, yeah they're just like sitting there, dust all over them, but I, I, you know. Hey, they could at least say hey, how's it going? If you have anything, let me know. That's the kind of salesperson I like. I don't want someone following me around, oh I'd like someone, but I don't want someone bitching when I leave the store, too, to be.
Speaker 1:To be like I got the collectible stuff over here. I want to see the good stuff. You know, some of these stores must have good stuff.
Speaker 2:They must. Where is it, I don't know? Keep it out.
Speaker 1:I want to buy a first edition of something.
Speaker 2:Well, I think those are more specialty stores, you're not going to go into Barnes Noble and find that? No, yeah, but I think you can find that. I don't know where, but you can.
Speaker 1:We'll figure it out.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Maybe one of our stores should have high-end books.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But we have to get security. I don't want anybody breaking in and stealing my books. Stealing books.
Speaker 2:I'd beat them up. Want any buddy breaking in and stealing my books. Stealing books? I beat them up. My favorite bookstore that I haven't been to is called Betty's Pages in Lowell Michigan.
Speaker 1:Now wait a minute your favorite bookstore you've never been to.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, I guess you can make it a favorite without being there.
Speaker 2:Yes, I bought some stuff online. I think I raved about them before?
Speaker 1:Wait, you have talked about it. Yes, yes, yes, online. I think I've talked about them before. Wait, you have talked about it.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, I can't wait for their holiday. It's not really Advent, but it's kind of a holiday package. Yeah, and you get that package and they wrap the books right there. So you get a prize. Every time I'm going to read this book, I'm going to open it up, that's nice.
Speaker 1:Are they going to send us free stuff for plugging them? Probably not Okay.
Speaker 2:They're independent Is it Betty. Betty's Pages. No, her name is Nicole, I believe.
Speaker 1:Who's Betty?
Speaker 2:Betty Page. You don't know who Betty Page is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do. No, you're not even faking it. Who's Betty Page?
Speaker 2:She is like a person from the 40s who was kind of provocative for her time.
Speaker 1:Ooh, I like it already Cool.
Speaker 2:There's a couple movies about her and, guess what, there's some books about her.
Speaker 1:Good books or bad books.
Speaker 2:Probably some books people didn't like her. Probably they didn't like her. She was too provocative. She was too provocative, jeannie B Jones. Jeannie B Jones. She's probably reading those. She's probably reading those?
Speaker 1:Yeah, stay away from that.
Speaker 2:Jenna also did say she's still chasing the high of going to Walden Books at Christmas Like oh, that's sweet.
Speaker 1:Next to Camelot Music. Yeah, genie Sweet Shop.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Right there, kb Toys. Oh, come on, son of a bitch. What happened to them all? What?
Speaker 1:happened to us Amazon.
Speaker 2:Probably Mm Amazon Probably.
Speaker 1:Now my theory on that is if you're maybe I'm wrong, but I like to think that if you're really good at something and you're passionate about it, even if there's competition, you'll survive.
Speaker 2:I believe that's true and competition is good, but I also think you know when Walmart comes into a town.
Speaker 1:Walmart. It does, it's Walmart, it's Walmart, it does, it's Walmart, it's Walmart. It just wipe out the. It can wipe out the locals Like the shoe store.
Speaker 2:We don't have a shoe store now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but why not?
Speaker 2:We don't have a bookstore.
Speaker 1:I would go into the shoe store. That is no more, masters, and I liked it, you would. It had high end.
Speaker 2:Well, some people would, I guess I. I bought lots of stuff there, but not everybody does and maybe not everybody can afford to either.
Speaker 1:Well, you know I get.
Speaker 2:I get that. I understand it. But you know it does take away selection that type of competition and in bookstores too. We had while we had Walden's in the mall. There used to be a big bookstore downtown years ago before there were Walmart-type stores.
Speaker 1:Here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, downtown.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was in the same spot, right.
Speaker 2:Well, it was right by the state theater. I think there's a tattoo thing there now Did you ever get a tattoo there. I did not.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Did you? Yeah, oh, did you, is it?
Speaker 1:of a book.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I got it, oh this, I got that, oh this I get that oh okay, well, that's a nice.
Speaker 2:For people who can't see, it's a big pen.
Speaker 1:It's an old pen, an old-fashioned pen with the ink, and you can see the inside of the pen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it says commit, create, endure.
Speaker 1:It's my little reminder, Not just for writing, but everything.
Speaker 2:That works.
Speaker 1:Commit Anyway.
Speaker 2:That's very nice. What was my thing oh?
Speaker 1:the tattoo. Yeah, he's a pretty intense guy over there.
Speaker 2:Well, I like the tattoo. It looks good.
Speaker 1:He had heavy metal playing at full volume the whole time.
Speaker 2:Well, everybody works under different conditions. Sure, Like you wouldn't find that in a bookstore, heavy metal playing all the time.
Speaker 1:Depends on the bookstore.
Speaker 2:Do they have a heavy metal bookstore? I bet they do Like a Hot Topic kind of bookstore.
Speaker 1:There's no books in Hot. Topic no, anyway, okay.
Speaker 2:So I think it's clear that overall, we think that bookstores are heroes. Sure, I think so. And independent ones, if you can are more heroic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, because they don't have the money. The big corporate backing.
Speaker 2:They don't, but because of that they can do whatever the fuck they want, so I hope they do, so serve some coffee. Give us coffee, you know I've cut down. Have you. Oh, is that why you keep talking about it?
Speaker 1:I really cut down. I only do, are you?
Speaker 2:jittery.
Speaker 1:No, I only do one to three cups now. God, how many were you doing Eight, ten, whatever, all with?
Speaker 2:caffeine yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you ever?
Speaker 2:Eight, ten, whatever, all with caffeine. Yeah, huh, you ever drink decaf?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I did. I got to start that again.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, you know what?
Speaker 1:no-transcript. How do I really know it's half.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but it says so in the pod.
Speaker 1:It does.
Speaker 2:But we don't really know for sure.
Speaker 1:You like coffee?
Speaker 2:I do. Yeah, not eight cups a day, no, I do two cups. And then, if it's a really fancy meal and I'm having dessert at a restaurant, I get a cup of coffee.
Speaker 1:At night.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ooh, I know that's like a splurge out Wow.
Speaker 1:That's when I knew I had a problem when I started drinking coffee at 730 at night.
Speaker 2:And it doesn't bother you, I couldn't tell. I don't know, I don't sleep well anyway, oh.
Speaker 1:But no, but if I drink too much coffee I know I'm off man. I get pretty fucking agitated at night. I feel bad, like I'm just Well don't do it. That's why I'm cutting back. Okay, alright, but don't cut back on bookstores no, bookstores are awesome Because they're heroes.
Speaker 2:Who would ever call a bookstore a dick? I don't know.
Speaker 1:Depends on the books.
Speaker 2:Oh, people are so picky about what they think I should read. Mm-hmm, do you think?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like yeah, I just need. They don't want, they want to make sure, I don't want anyone to read this book, no, they want to make sure that the dress you're imagining in your head has long sleeves and is full length and isn't some little mini skirt view with a dipping. What is this? A cleavage, a cleavage hole, no, cleavage, a cleavage hole no cleavage holes, please yeah, and now you have a totally related Fast Five, don't you Unrelated?
Speaker 2:Unrelated. Let's say unrelated, so let's just start with it and see if people can guess what it is. Okay, the first one fireworks. I say dick, they're beautiful, yes, but they're expensive. They leave a mess, people get injured. You got to wait forever for them to go off at night.
Speaker 1:What about?
Speaker 2:your own personal fireworks. No, even more of a dick. Oh my God, Kate, I know.
Speaker 1:I go dick. Oh man, I don't know, I don't like going to the fireworks.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:But I do like sitting at the lake and watching the fireworks from afar.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, like I said, they're beautiful, but and they're quieter. Yeah, you don't have to clean the mess up.
Speaker 1:They're messes in the lake, though, excuse me, it is, I'll take it.
Speaker 2:How about hot dogs?
Speaker 1:That's so terrible Hero.
Speaker 2:I like a hot dog every now and then. Hot dog, here's how I eat them. Hot dog in a bun. Onions, barbecue sauce.
Speaker 1:Huh, sure, hey, do you ever go to Bob's?
Speaker 2:over there. I have been there. I got the nacho Shout out to.
Speaker 1:Bob's Bullpen.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:Great hot dogs over there.
Speaker 2:I got the nacho dog. It was delicious.
Speaker 1:Do you like your wiener skin, with the skin or skinless? I like the snappy little kogel.
Speaker 2:I like that. Yeah, and there are particular brands. Only that I'll eat. I'm not eating like a you know, I'm not eating a turkey bars or a turkey one or a chicken one. It has to be all beef and it has to be yeah, there's some at Purchase. I think that sells the winter brand maybe or something like that. I got them at Nowiki's and they're hot dogs, not brats. That's a whole different show.
Speaker 1:But back to the wieners. I don't mind like the combo dog where everything's in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, depending on the brand I like relish on it too relish is good I like um uh.
Speaker 1:Nathan's makes a good hot yeah, they do kogels oscar meyer's overrated, I think I don't think.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't like theirs.
Speaker 1:So hero, but not but sparingly dang.
Speaker 2:Now I could eat a hot dog. How about parades?
Speaker 1:no, I'm not a fan of parades sick and tired of kids running out trying to get candy.
Speaker 2:I know how do they not all get run over?
Speaker 1:yeah, and these parents? When did we start?
Speaker 2:this I don't remember doing that?
Speaker 1:who eats candy at a parade?
Speaker 2:now the parents probably throw it away or eat it themselves if it's. And these parents when did we start this? I don't remember doing that. Who needs candy at a parade?
Speaker 1:And then the parents probably throw it away or eat it themselves if it's good or yell at their kids Don't eat all that candy, but you're the dumbass that let them go out in the street and grab it all. I do like the Christmas parade a little, because the lights and it's dark. Well, it's in the evening and it's dark. Fourth of July.
Speaker 2:Sometimes if it's snowing oh it's too hot.
Speaker 1:It's always so hot.
Speaker 2:Too hot.
Speaker 1:And it's I don't want to cap on them too bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'm sure people work really hard.
Speaker 1:I like the perform, like the cheerleader people. The people are doing stuff.
Speaker 2:But the people who are waving from the back of a truck no, for what why? Yeah, throwing candy. Okay, how about Family Picnic?
Speaker 1:Hero. Not enough of those happen.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is why they can be a dick when they do happen. And to wrap it up, July 4th or 4th of July.
Speaker 1:Hero.
Speaker 2:Well, hero, overall, we don't need the two in the morning. Fireworks no, we don't. Gunshots no. Yeehaw drunk assholes.
Speaker 1:We don't need that, but getting together with the fam. Right, right Are you going water skiing again this year.
Speaker 2:You know, I never was a water skier. I tried, though I did try, it didn't happen.
Speaker 1:for me it's too dangerous.
Speaker 2:No, no, I will not be water skiing. Usually we just have a picnic and some food and maybe some people over Hot dogs. We do have a hot dog.
Speaker 1:Maybe take a book.
Speaker 2:I would love to sit.
Speaker 1:Read a little book.
Speaker 2:Just sit and read a book.
Speaker 1:During the family. What's Kay doing? She's over in the corner. Let's read a book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's acceptable at our family functions that if you bring a book that you could just sit and, you know, read it.
Speaker 1:I think it should be just acceptable. If you go to a family function and you put in your time 15 minutes talking to people, then you could just sit by yourself and do whatever, but that's not typically acceptable.
Speaker 2:Well, hopefully it's more interesting that you don't need the book. But you know, if it's nice out and you're sitting out by the lake and you want to put your chair away from everybody and read for a little while, I got no problem with that Neither.
Speaker 1:The world would be a better place if people sat alone and reflected and read books.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's so deep. But I think it's true too. People don't spend enough alone time, no, so people get your alone time in. Go to the bookstore, Right on.
Speaker 1:Okay, thanks for tuning in.
Speaker 2:All right, see you next time. Bye-bye, bye.