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Episode 26: Shaking the Foundations: Unveiling Harford County's Struggles with Government Overreach

September 28, 2023 Live Free - Die Last Season 1 Episode 26
Episode 26: Shaking the Foundations: Unveiling Harford County's Struggles with Government Overreach
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Episode 26: Shaking the Foundations: Unveiling Harford County's Struggles with Government Overreach
Sep 28, 2023 Season 1 Episode 26
Live Free - Die Last

Get ready to discover the transformative power of community involvement in challenging government overreach. This enlightening discussion with our esteemed guest, Patrick Warren, shines a light on the ongoing struggle against the proposed development of 100 units in Harford County. We reflect on the recent events, including Team OD's activities and the critical role of the Community Advisory Board and County Councilman Aaron Penman.

Experience a deep dive into the potential pitfalls and county code violations related to the Harford County apartment project. We take a closer look at the fire department's concerns about water resources and the ability to manage an electric car fire. Prepare for an inside look into the upcoming county council meeting and the three pivotal bills on the agenda. Moreover, we take you through the Eva Mar development debacle, exploring the possible effects of a school being built in the area.

As we navigate through the constitutional implications of various proposals in Harford County, our conversation uncovers surprising insights.  Anticipate an engaging discussion on how our communities can unite to oppose harmful development and counteract government overreach. Join us as we unravel the power of citizen participation in shaping government decisions.

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Get ready to discover the transformative power of community involvement in challenging government overreach. This enlightening discussion with our esteemed guest, Patrick Warren, shines a light on the ongoing struggle against the proposed development of 100 units in Harford County. We reflect on the recent events, including Team OD's activities and the critical role of the Community Advisory Board and County Councilman Aaron Penman.

Experience a deep dive into the potential pitfalls and county code violations related to the Harford County apartment project. We take a closer look at the fire department's concerns about water resources and the ability to manage an electric car fire. Prepare for an inside look into the upcoming county council meeting and the three pivotal bills on the agenda. Moreover, we take you through the Eva Mar development debacle, exploring the possible effects of a school being built in the area.

As we navigate through the constitutional implications of various proposals in Harford County, our conversation uncovers surprising insights.  Anticipate an engaging discussion on how our communities can unite to oppose harmful development and counteract government overreach. Join us as we unravel the power of citizen participation in shaping government decisions.

Speaker 1:

We are, we the People of Maryland. Our mission is to advocate for your right to control your livelihood, your property, your family and your destiny. Our vision is to provide an organized outlet for Americans who are frustrated by government overreach. Thank you for listening to the Live Free Die Last Podcast.

Speaker 2:

Lord is getting ready to smite the enemies of freedom.

Speaker 3:

Alright, hello Harford County. This is the we the People Studios Live Free. Die Last Podcast coming to you, live from the Freedom Pod. We are blessed today to have Patrick Warren in the studio. Say hello to the people, patrick. Hello everybody and of course, the Josh.

Speaker 4:

Welcome to you. Back Patriots, and buckle up.

Speaker 3:

I think this is going to be a good one there may or may not be a mystery patriot in the pod if the mystery patriot says something, and you'll have to figure out who they are. So let's talk about a few things. One of the things we have been doing a poor job of is promoting our monthly meetings, and I think we should pick up on that. So, first thing, let's get some of that housekeeping out of the way, if you will.

Speaker 4:

Well, we've always relied on our listeners, not only to listen, but also to give us great information and good feedback. Reaching out to us is very simple Info at wethepeopleofmdorg, our website, wethepeopleofmdcom. Also on that website. If you want to join our mailing list, it's at the top of the page right there. If you're not tech savvy and you just want to write a letter PO Box 13, farstill, maryland write us a letter. Let us know how we're doing, what's going on. Got any information? Share it with us.

Speaker 3:

Awesome. So I guess we won't get too deep, but I think we should say last night we had a very good guest at the WeThePeople meeting at the Hartford Vineyard. That was Kate Sullivan. She talked about elections and election integrity and she is a wealth of information, very intelligent woman who is a patriot leading the charge to have Maryland's elections be fair, and she promised us to come on the show. We just have to coordinate with her and get the right timing, so look forward to that.

Speaker 4:

I was upset. I wasn't able to be at the meeting last night, so I'm happy that we're going to get to have her on the podcast. We really talked to her but I know what she's about. She's a good one, a good patriot for us.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we'll dive into a few election integrity things in a little bit, but do you want to start out? You got Patrick and Josh talking a little bit about Team OD. We're just going to kind of touch on a few subjects tonight and then we'll try to do something fun at the end.

Speaker 4:

That works. I mean, I think, looking at it as a week in review, there's been a lot going on this week, there's a lot going on in the month of October coming up and there's a lot going on to protect and preserve our community and our county Good stuff.

Speaker 3:

The community is waking up.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, the community is waking up. They're Faust and strong. Well, that's where I was last night, instead of being at our we the People meeting. And another amazing turnout another full room of concerned patriots, concerned citizens that are educated, that have great questions, and they're coming together Really quick not to get into the weeds on it, but in the Faust and meeting. What we're talking about is the 100 departments that are being proposed and there's going to be a DAC meeting, which is the Development Advisory Committee meeting, to approve this project. Dac meetings, October the 18th, at 9 am, of course, but what we were at last night was the Community Advisory Board meeting.

Speaker 3:

Well, they won't actually approve the project of the DAC meeting. Not that kind. How about the council?

Speaker 4:

meeting. No, it goes through the DAC and this one specifically. Again, not to get in the weeds, this is going to take it's a special project or special development. It's going to take the director of planning and zoning to actually approve the project as well. Got you.

Speaker 4:

There's a lot of layers here, but what I wanted to get into, the big surprise, the county councilman from District B, Aaron Penman, the councilman from District Snee oh, there you go, there you go. He came in and said he's been working with the developer and we made a good compromise, and I think he put out a newsletter today that he was excited that instead of 100 departments it's going to be 48 departments. The community showed up in droves saying no, I'm so excited.

Speaker 3:

Yep, I just can't Sorry.

Speaker 2:

The thing I find interesting about this guy is like when you read the announcement that he put out, it just makes him. Every time he opens his mouth, talks about this project or has anything written for him about this project, he just comes off as a shill for the developer. He's not, definitely not representing the people of District B.

Speaker 4:

He's shilling constantly for this development and Mike, you're it's it's infuriating and there's a lot of reasons why that this should not even happen. And I want to make two quick points tonight because I want to also show that this is happening around the entire county and not just Fauston. I know Fauston is coming together really strong, but every single community in this county needs to do the same and there's things that we can do. We'll talk about it a little bit later tonight. But specifically with this apartment let's begin Just to be clear. There's a track record of this developer doing these bait and switch games. You know smoke and mirrors, you know distractions, dild, switcheroo, exactly. But for this specific project, what's being proposed? He can say whatever he wants about 48 apartments, this, that, whatever, if he doesn't change that on the plans and submit that to DAC. The DAC meeting on the 18th is for 100 apartments.

Speaker 4:

And all the other traffic issues, all the other environmental issues, all the other safety issues, emergency safety issues they're all still what we're fighting against. And what I wanted to bring up specifically is this project has a parking garage underneath of apartments. That is unheard of. In Hartford County the closest parking garage is downtown Bel Air. So looking at the actual county code, it is unharmonious and it's that word in the county code of being unharmonious with the rest of the buildings in the area is very clear that this cannot be approved and that's in Article 8 of design standards for special developments, section 267-74, garden and Midrise Apartments, section 3 Design. This is specifically coming from the county code and that's what we need to understand as an entire county, that we need to understand what's being built but also how we can protect ourselves. And it's written right here that this is not welcome, it shouldn't be considered.

Speaker 2:

But again, here we are. Well, how does an underground parking garage work when you've got EVs parked in there?

Speaker 3:

Especially if it's below the water table.

Speaker 2:

What if you have an EV that catches on fire and goes up? I mean, start the whole building on fire.

Speaker 4:

And I know that the nice I like that. That was a fire. I know that the fire department has the same concerns and same issues.

Speaker 3:

They said last night at the meeting on record that they don't have enough water in Hartford County to put out one Tesla fire.

Speaker 4:

Well, I think it was mentioned that in Hartford County, in Fauston I believe, there was an electric car fire that caused 5,000 gallons of water.

Speaker 2:

I could be getting that switch up with another story, another fire that I've heard they take a lot of water to put it out. When those things go up, I mean they don't go out easy.

Speaker 3:

Don't you remember in grade school when they said don't pour water on electrical fire? Exactly Well, they don't have anything else to pour on it, so that's what they do.

Speaker 2:

But if he decides to change this to 4 to get apartments, doesn't he have to kind of go back to square one with DAC and like refile?

Speaker 4:

I'd like to hear that answer. I don't know that answer directly, but it's a good question.

Speaker 2:

I think it would cost him some more money if he has to do that.

Speaker 4:

Well, I think that there is a lot of questions in this project. That's going to cost a lot more money to explain what's going on.

Speaker 3:

So if people are interested, what can they do? Is there anything they can? Is there a council meeting or anything they can attend?

Speaker 4:

Yes, october the 2nd at the county council Monday.

Speaker 3:

October, the 2nd Monday.

Speaker 4:

Monday. Thank you for clarifying. That's a good point.

Speaker 3:

Yes, because it's usually Tuesday, Tuesday.

Speaker 4:

And it's at the county council building, 212 South Bond Street, 6 pm. The black box. Yes, you can get in the doors at 5 pm, sinewave, outside, if you want. It's going to be a packed house. It was also brought up last night that they're going to do sections. There's three bills coming up that night. There's one on the warehouse moratorium, so we know that there's going to be a ton of people there for that.

Speaker 3:

That would be the Perryman people right 3 p3 p.

Speaker 4:

So they're going to go first at 6 pm is from what I understand and then when they're done it's going to be the apartment 2nd and then the 3rd would be the terminal in it bill. That's being introduced that night. They're still trying to figure out so I guess they're listening to what we're saying they're still trying to figure out the overflow, what they're going to do with that. It was mentioned last night that they might set up like a conference room across the street in the administration office and live stream while people are waiting so they don't have to stand outside. But if you're going to stand outside and it's a nice night I just hold a sign and it says you know, no more traffic or no more apartments, no more warehouses, whatever it may be. We love Barry, not that one, oh no not that one.

Speaker 4:

Barry. But again that's Monday, october 2nd, 6 o'clock pm. The surrounding council get there early. That's something that we can do because, again, I'm going to keep saying this and harping this it's not just happening in one community, it's happening everywhere. You know, something that came out today was Ava Mars, back up back in the news where they're. You know the planning in zoning.

Speaker 3:

Ava Mars would be. What If some people are new?

Speaker 4:

Gotcha Ava Mars is a Development neighborhood. Debacle development neighborhood.

Speaker 3:

Giant ugly building off 543 between Bel Air Road and Route 22. Yep.

Speaker 2:

That was sold as one thing and ended up as something else.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, now it's an eyesore, but at least it's not inhabited by anything blue. It was supposed to be a senior living, but self-move, your.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you said it was supposed to be something else, but it, you know it gets switched over to something else. Switch over to something else. Change his hands, change his hands. So it's. I think the proposed right now is it's going to be 84 homes instead of 60 homes, or it's going to be a Potentially be a replacement for John Archer School plus an elementary school in that area.

Speaker 3:

Schools don't cost too much traffic. Exactly, they won't be able to move on that road.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. How are you going to have a school on 543 with all that? And that road is at capacity. Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean, it's like 10, 12 years ago when the council Wanted to put a school up there by campus hills and you know the. They got a big argument with the board of ed. Because the board of ed at that time realized this is the dumbest thing anybody ever heard.

Speaker 4:

there's traffic problems and they next it and they also didn't have the public water and sewer. So that's why they're now looking for a different location. But again, you look at it 60 homes is gonna struggle with the traffic. Oh yeah, the traffic's bad now right, but the fact that the developer is gonna have to put in 84 homes to make a profit with nothing, but a rat and ghosts living in that mass.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, the thing that's really interesting about this is you ever notice how it's always a Hobson's choice, like it's gonna be. You have your choice of either 84 homes or a school. It's like okay, so no matter whatever happens, like these projects that go sideways, and whenever they go sideways, no matter what happens, the developer always wins. The developer was he's gonna get to build either a school, which is gonna just destroy the roads around there in the traffic, or 22 more homes. Right, if you look at 22 more homes, the average price of those homes over there would like 600,000 or something.

Speaker 3:

Well, and and people are gonna complain about what you just said. But what the developers gonna do if they do a school, is get top dollar for the property from the county. They won't be looking for a bargain Play in the leverage that. There's nothing else you can do here. You messed up. You need to just Walk away and give us to us cheap so you can get out of trouble. That won't happen.

Speaker 2:

But it's like heads on wind tails, you lose Exactly the houses, average six hundred thousand dollars and you figure like a 25% profit. You know, on these homes, guys gonna make an extra three million dollars off of this mistake right more than that.

Speaker 4:

It's why should the community being conservative, it's why should the community have to compromise and, you know, make a decision for a bad investment? You know.

Speaker 3:

We are fortunate and blessed to live here in the Developers and the county council's county. They own it. We're just plebs.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, one of the things I always tell you is like well, you know, hartford County is business friendly, we got to be business friendly. Well, you know, there's a difference between business friendly and being market friendly. Should be market friendly. Business friendly just means I'm gonna like pave the way for my buddies.

Speaker 3:

No wait, we learned what business friendly means. Business friendly means you shall close your business and wear a mask. There you go.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 3:

That was their business friendly. I was under Barry Glassman. Business friendly was we shall choose who's allowed to work, who is essential and who is not.

Speaker 2:

Right, I completely forgot about that.

Speaker 3:

That's okay. We won't let the world forget about that.

Speaker 4:

I'm not in disagreement with you, john, but I'm also. There is things people can do, you know, and if we continue to fight, these people are backpedal. I'm telling you right now we are having an impact on the community Just speaking the truth, being out there not only us but the community themselves are speaking up right now.

Speaker 4:

They're not having this crap. I love it, it's encouraging. So again, october the second, the county council, 6 pm. Get there at 5, 4 o'clock in the afternoon, sign up, show up. If you're gonna sign up, you know, make sure that you sign up to speak. You know, make sure that you have good factual information. And it's time to time for the community to continue to come together because one one side should have factual information.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, exactly, you know, and there's three big bills, you know the moratorium bill with the warehouses. That's something that you know we need to truly consider as a community how it's gonna impact. It's not gonna just impact Perryman. There's other places within the the county that this bill can have impact too. So if this bill does not pass, the 5 million square foot warehouse that you're being proposed in Perryman could be proposed other places. These apartments that are going in and Fauston are being proposed but I don't think are gonna happen. You know, because we are fighting, fighting, fighting. That's gonna happen in other pockets of the community as well.

Speaker 3:

The, the warehouses, particularly troublesome because Travis Sunday, who's not here tonight, had a conversation. He wrote a letter to Hank Johnson Senator Hank Johnson out of Georgia and he asked Hank Johnson what might happen if they built the concrete jungle out there and he said well, the island will probably tip over. So that's something to be concerned about.

Speaker 4:

That's. That's too funny, you know. And there's, it's not just the over development of the actual building is going up, it's the impact that's having on our, our neighborhoods, in our community. One thing I wanted to bring up is the schools. So, again, what else can we have, you know, or house, can the community come together, or what else can they do October the 12th at 6 pm At the County Council chambers? Again, it's the adequate public facilities ordinance, the APFO meeting. That's a big meeting, so not a lot of people, or I guess it's starting to come to light now and again saying that the community coming together October 12th. October the 12th, 6 pm. You know long this day.

Speaker 3:

Traditionally, october 12th is Columbus Day. Interesting, they've erased that from all bits of memory.

Speaker 4:

I'm glad that you brought that up and got it, you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, I went to school back in the 80s when Christopher Columbus was a hero.

Speaker 4:

But with this meeting, what we're going to be looking at here is and I'm not sure if everybody understands in the community once a school hits 110% capacity, then the building moratorium hits. It's not until you get capacity, until kids are being 10% overcapacity, Until kids are going to school in Trailers.

Speaker 4:

Trailers you know You've got 30, 40 kids in a classroom, so this is a very important meeting, that you know. Again, it's no bill or anything. This is just a talk and a discussion right now. But that doesn't make sense to me. That's developer-friendly, that's team-OD-friendly to have it's such a high of an offer.

Speaker 3:

Well, they get a double whammy because what happens is, they know darn well, they will have to build another school. Schools are very expensive and they only last about 30 years, according to you know, the design. The design of them is for 30 years. So we have like almost 40, 48, I think, schools. So if they have to replace them every 30 years, we're replacing schools, you know, two at a time. It's a little ridiculous. Why don't they design them the last a little longer?

Speaker 4:

Well, at least the one they're replacing now Homestead, wakefield again. That's a whole different. I'm going to say this right now we need and I told you so podcast with Mama Bear and a couple of Mama Bears I got you.

Speaker 3:

All right, we'll leave some of this for that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but no, what I'm saying is so what happened, sherry? My elementary school that I went to should have been probably replaced closer to back when I was in elementary school and I'm not going to tell of my age, but that was more than a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3:

I don't know how you guys do it. I keep getting choked up. We get this pod up so high that the air gets thin and I have a hard time breathing. You guys are just like bam on it.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, something else that needs to be talked about, too, is that you know we're going to have zoning rezoning.

Speaker 2:

Hearing is coming up here in the county and that's coming up relatively soon, like in the next, I think next, couple of months. We'll give you more details on that when we get the date. But you really have to pay attention to this because this stuff is coming to a neighborhood near you. I mean, you can sit around and you can say well, you know that's happening in Falston and it's not going to affect me. You don't know when it's going to affect you because you know what this county, pat Vincenty, they can't get enough of these HUD grants. They're trying to rake these HUD grants in hand over fist.

Speaker 2:

Pat Vincenty said at a meeting one night love these HUD grants, going to try to get as many as I can. Well, when you accept these HUD grants, one of the strings attaches. You know they're pushing apartment buildings, apartment buildings, apartment buildings, because this all goes back to the Obama administration and affirmatively furthering fair housing. Take this money You've got to build high density living, because they're not agenda 2030 and like the right. The new, new building plans that they have for us do not include single family detached homes. They want you packed and stacked and you're going to have eating bugs.

Speaker 4:

You're going to have a lot.

Speaker 2:

No, you're going to have yeah, you're going to have the 15 minute cities and this is coming to the county. And you got to show up at these DAC meetings because you know you got to be involved. Once the plans are made, too late.

Speaker 4:

Also being involved in the legislative session. Going back to, you know, monday night, the public input meetings. You know we mentioned the warehouse. You know we need to have, you know, consider this bill. You know it's probably a good idea to introduce this moratorium. Now, for me personally, I'm going to mention the department one as well. Yeah, that's, we need this bill. That's a yes vote. At last night's meeting, you know, the community asked Aaron Penman, will you go on record and say that you were going to vote for this bill? And he refused to make that. Answer that question. I'm going to say that this is something we need, but it's closing up loopholes. That means no.

Speaker 3:

That means I didn't ask my boss before the meeting what to say if I got to ask that question.

Speaker 4:

Exactly Well, last time you abstained.

Speaker 2:

I got to call Josne and find out what I'm supposed to do Ding ding.

Speaker 4:

But you know last time you abstained, but these are not the apps. The end all be all absolute. You know pieces of legislation, there's more that needs to happen. You know there's more that needs to happen to protect our communities in this. You know the infrastructure does not support what they're trying to do. So, yes, I say vote on the apartment building as a yes, the warehouse building as a yes, but more still needs to happen on top of that. Don't give up with this. And back to what you're saying rezoning and all this other stuff. There's things that are happening and happening happening. There's a lot of positive stuff happening and we're having an impact right now.

Speaker 3:

So so let's not forget that a lot of the nonsense that we're seeing is really supposed to be a distraction. You, for the first time in a very long time, you have a county executive who's actually trying to, you know, make sure developing and things are done by the book and done right. So he's a bit of a roadblock to some of this stuff and they're having fits.

Speaker 2:

Fits. Yeah, he's not playing ball with their agenda. So you know they're going to take the uh lawfare route right and try to just death of a thousand cuts and character assassination, constantly claiming he's doing this and doing that.

Speaker 3:

I mean, look we're, I, hate I. We are definitely not, you know, fanboys of anybody, but this is just wild to see.

Speaker 2:

I've never I've lived in this county for 25 years and I've never seen it.

Speaker 4:

It's blatantly what's happening, like so they don't even hide it. No, and that's one thing I want to bring up right now, um skipped over a couple of things here.

Speaker 3:

I think that's okay, we have a heads up display in the freedom pod, so we move it around a little bit. That's how we stay on track.

Speaker 4:

If we stay on track, yeah, but uh, I'm going to skip over. We can close out, I think, with a review of Kate um and get everybody fired up for our next meeting, but, um, again they're doing it right in front of her face. Um, aaron Penman. I want to discuss Aaron Penman being now, um, back on the Sheriff's Department. You know that is sheriff, that's all I should have to say. You know, a county councilman and now a sheriff.

Speaker 3:

At the same time. At the same time. That seems like a conflict of interest.

Speaker 2:

I don't think you can occupy two branches of government at the same time. Nope Doesn't. I don't know, that's kind of a violation, I think.

Speaker 3:

Wait a minute. Is the school system a branch of government? No, amazingly. That's what the sheriff hung his hat on. Well, if they can hire a teacher, we can hire a sheriff.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know what? The sheriff's announcement was completely bogus. I mean, it was like a. That announcement was the most tortured thing I ever saw and I actually got a copy of that decision. And when you look at that decision this decision with uh Bennett being allowed to be on the county council has nothing to do With Tenman being able to be on the council I got I'm not even a lawyer I got three days, unless he becomes a teacher.

Speaker 2:

I got three pages into this thing and I was like the sheriff's explanation is completely bogus. There's no way this applies.

Speaker 4:

Right and I wanted to explain why that is Very specifically in the county charter, section 207, you know, that's what you know disavows or disallows him to be a sheriff and on the council, um, because holding to dual employments. But there's also case law that supports this Um Rucker versus Hartford County. Um, this was back in, I think in 1989. Um basically established that the sheriff and deputy sheriffs of Hartford County are officials and or employees of the state of Maryland, not Hartford County. So when you go back to the section 207 of the county charter, you cannot be a county or a state employee. Ah, this, that is a quote. You know that's reading right from this um, from this case law, that it specifically says that yeah, I see it Employees of the state of Maryland, not Hartford County.

Speaker 3:

It says the council members shall not hold any other office of profit or employment in the government of the state of Maryland, hartford County or any municipality within Hartford County.

Speaker 4:

How is that not?

Speaker 3:

I love it. You guys are diggers with a D.

Speaker 2:

Oh, we can read English too, as it kind of helps.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and taking it one step further, the. Maryland constitution, the declaration of rights, section eight. It's a violation two of that Um. It says that the legislative, executive and judicial powers of government ought to be forever separate and distinct from each other, and no person exercising the functions of one of said departments shall assume or discharge the duties of any other.

Speaker 3:

Right, and I can hear him now. Well, it says ought to be there you go. I wasn't saying shall be, no, that's how they talk. Back then, guys.

Speaker 4:

That is um. It's clear, it's crystal clear, and this is this stuff's got to stop. It's happening right in front of our eyes.

Speaker 3:

It's just another distraction from the fight over.

Speaker 2:

Well, Sheriff Buford thinks he's bulletproof.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that's why he's doing all this stuff.

Speaker 4:

You know it'd be interesting to see what you know the border.

Speaker 3:

He's a borderism machine.

Speaker 4:

The Board of Ethics or something you know in Hartford County or the state of Maryland would have with their opinion of this would be.

Speaker 3:

I'm sure they're going to find out. I'm sure we're going to hear it. So there's a lot of crazy stuff in Hartford County but with Mike Perutka coming out on October the 18th to the Harford Vineyard in Winery to address the we, the People meeting, this guy, mike Perutka, is a constitutional expert. He teaches at the Institute for Constituent on the Constitution. He's probably founded it right in Patrick.

Speaker 4:

He was probably considered, you know, consulted.

Speaker 2:

Consultant when they wrote he definitely knows this stuff, no question.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, if you have never heard this man speak, it's amazing, I mean, and and it's uplifting. And this, this Constitution, was so well written that, despite them trying to tear it down, despite us having leaders that do not defend it, it is still a huge obstacle for the communists that want to take our freedom. So that's why I said the last podcast that we stand on the shoulders of giants. The men that wrote that. They did a great job.

Speaker 2:

It's also an impediment to undocumented Democrats.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's a, that's a, that is a tongue the twister. So I have a couple questions, like I just kind of wanted to play a little bit, like let's just think about something, because this is the craziest Time we've ever seen in Harford County like what, if like what, what will they do next? I mean, you know, what would they allow? So? So I was thinking about that and you know almost anything, almost anything. So so I tried to think of something that would seem a little far-fetched, but I'm kind of came up with a scenario I wanted you guys to talk about a little bit, like I could see all this stuff. Now they want to create a diversion, so I could see them coming out and passing a resolution to we're gonna place a six month moratorium on all building in Harford County until we get a chance to look at Traffic studies and schools and things like that, and everybody would rejoice and we'd all go away.

Speaker 3:

And the next week they would go and say something like well, out of respect for the American Indians, we're going to make the entire rock state Park Indian reservation, despite the fact that that's a federal jurisdiction. You know, it doesn't mean anything. Nothing's going to change. We're just going to designate it as an Indian reservation to honor the American Indians. They probably call them Native Americans. Two weeks after that, what we would see is Barry Glassman and Chad Schrods I'm just, you know, picking a couple guys from the past show up at the council meeting claiming to be leaders of the little-known Era corn Indian tribe. They gonna be building well there, they inhabit they inhabit rock state Park. So by it is now their legitimate land. And wouldn't you know it, they've got plans for a huge casino funded by team hoady. That's, that's how we would. That's, that's something I could see going down in this county. Right, so we'd have in Jeritsville, we'd have a giant era corn Indian casino.

Speaker 4:

Well, so would that also then require a casino tax, just like the hotel tax?

Speaker 3:

Well, yeah, and they would probably have like a duck museum inside the casino and some type of sheep shearing exhibit. Oh man, perhaps a horse?

Speaker 4:

farm as well. That's a.

Speaker 3:

I mean, who knows what crazy stuff they're gonna come up with next?

Speaker 4:

Can't put anything past. I mean the pickleball courts, you know. I maybe the the international pickleball Association, you know. Playing fields, you know, because I heard that coming up I'm picking on pickleball. I just thought it was very funny. But again.

Speaker 3:

There's a huge crowd that loves pickleball here, and they're all really old and good for them.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know you could hit a pickle right, I don't know. Let's pickle abuse.

Speaker 4:

So I'm just waiting for the next crazy thing to come out of that that group and they loved it like pull the bait and switch, like look how friendly we are, and then they just slide it in somewhere over here where hopefully nobody's looking and this is a topic I'll be honest with you the, the over development of Hartford County is a topic for Almost everybody in the county and they're all against it that there's a such a large group and obviously, you know I'll use the term diverse group it doesn't matter, if you know, if you're a Democrat, republican we talked about this on the last podcast Absolutely, this is a community issue going on and I'll keep hammering at this and hammering at this and hammering at this. If you're in North Hartford, if you're in Edgewood, aberdeen, havettie, grace, churchville, norseville, fauston, bel Air, it doesn't matter, it's going to happen in your community, in your backyard. Don't wait for it to happen, you know, for them to start breaking ground or starting to, you know Planning these meetings, you know, come together as a community. There's things that we can do and I'm gonna, you know, list them off real quick because October is going to be jam-packed. Okay, let's them off.

Speaker 4:

Ten to this Monday coming up. Ten to Six pm At the county council. This is for three bills a warehouse moratorium bill or a zoning bill, the apartment legislation and two term limits. Then you have ten, twelve, you have the, the school issue with the adequate public facilities ordinance at six pm, october the 12th, at the county council.

Speaker 4:

And then For for personal you know, for me personally I live in district B, district Snee there is the plans so that the deck meeting, the development advisor committee meeting, where they're gonna discuss the apartment project and I'm again, I'm gonna hammer it, it's a hundred apartments at 152 and route one, that's the meeting for that project. They're not gonna say yeah or nay at that project but presence needs to be had and you know that's at nine o'clock in the morning. That's gonna be hard to, you know, pack that house. But I have faith in the community and there's a lot of people that are upset. So there is three meetings coming up right there that, if this entire county can come together, we can have an impact. We can start now Taking back the ratcheting strap effect of the good of the government, as we always talked about.

Speaker 3:

Patrick, you got anything to add before we close up this show and land this freedom pod?

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, josh brings up an excellent point. I mean, you know you really have to, you know, be involved and pay attention what's going on, because something else it's that's happening. That well, that that is trying to happen and I don't think a lot of people know about it is that there is a developer here in town that wants to put a hundred apartments on Bond Street in Bel Air from when the street where Portland hardware is going down to like the Bel Air bakery and Was to put a hundred unit apartment building there and he's asking for like eight zoning variances. He's asking for an exception on like eight. And what's eight zoning variances? Wow, there's another apartment building that's planned for Hickory over on Hickory Avenue, right there, kind of across that empty lot that's across from St Marguerite's.

Speaker 4:

They're gonna put a cross by the library.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna put a big apartment building there. So look at the amount of people and traffic that would be generated in downtown Bel Air, and People that they're gonna have moving into these apartment buildings are not gonna be people you want to be living there most of the time. I'm telling you right now, and it's gonna have an effect negative effect on the town of Bel Air. Guaranteed there's gonna be more crime. Crime is blown up in this county and the sheriff.

Speaker 2:

The sheriff spends his time ditching and whining about Bob Cassley and trying to throw him under the bus and Character assassination. I think you had to spend a little more time you know, put his cape on his tights and fight and crime, rather than you know his political adventures.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think the people would appreciate that. Anyway, I think what we're gonna do is land this freedom pod. Every crooked move you make, every corrupt breath you take will be watching you.

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Opposition to Apartment Project in Hartford
Community Impact and Development Concerns
Constitutional Issues in Hartford County
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