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Ever wished for a roadmap to navigate the rough terrains of addiction and recovery? Our guest for today's episode, Anthony Zorzetto, has walked that path and crafted his own roadmap to sobriety. With a past mired with fighting, expulsion from high school, and a crippling cocaine addiction, Anthony's journey to becoming a sobriety and peak performance coach is nothing short of riveting.
Anthony bares his soul about his life's darkest chapter, shedding light on his descent into addiction. Haunted by uncollected dues for his construction company and a failed marriage, he gave in to the lure of cocaine, a daily habit that plunged him to a catastrophic low of just 147lbs. But Anthony's story is one of resilience and transformation. With willpower and the right support, he clawed his way out of the abyss, transforming from a daily user to a sobriety coach. His passion for carpentry led him to start his own company and he also found solace in generating endorphins, serotonin, and dopamine through hard work.
Anthony emphasizes the importance of a supportive environment, understanding triggers, and replacing them with healthful activities. His personal battle has equipped him with a unique perspective to guide others on the path to recovery. The conversation also steers towards his dream of building a new age rehab clinic, a testament to his commitment to aiding those ensnared in the grips of addiction. As our conversation with Anthony Zorzetto unfolds, you'll be inspired by his courage, resilience, and his unflinching determination to help others find their way to sobriety.
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Ever wished for a roadmap to navigate the rough terrains of addiction and recovery? Our guest for today's episode, Anthony Zorzetto, has walked that path and crafted his own roadmap to sobriety. With a past mired with fighting, expulsion from high school, and a crippling cocaine addiction, Anthony's journey to becoming a sobriety and peak performance coach is nothing short of riveting.
Anthony bares his soul about his life's darkest chapter, shedding light on his descent into addiction. Haunted by uncollected dues for his construction company and a failed marriage, he gave in to the lure of cocaine, a daily habit that plunged him to a catastrophic low of just 147lbs. But Anthony's story is one of resilience and transformation. With willpower and the right support, he clawed his way out of the abyss, transforming from a daily user to a sobriety coach. His passion for carpentry led him to start his own company and he also found solace in generating endorphins, serotonin, and dopamine through hard work.
Anthony emphasizes the importance of a supportive environment, understanding triggers, and replacing them with healthful activities. His personal battle has equipped him with a unique perspective to guide others on the path to recovery. The conversation also steers towards his dream of building a new age rehab clinic, a testament to his commitment to aiding those ensnared in the grips of addiction. As our conversation with Anthony Zorzetto unfolds, you'll be inspired by his courage, resilience, and his unflinching determination to help others find their way to sobriety.
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To See The Full Video go to "Journey To Win" on Youtube
Speaker 1:
My wife's here. All right guys, welcome to the journey to win. I'm your host, brandon Thorneau. I got Anthony Zerdo here from Alberta, can? I'm super excited to talk to him today. He has an incredible story that I'm excited for you guys to hear. But, as you guys know, here on the podcast we talk about the Six Pillars Faith, family, fitness, finance, future, self and Fun and it's all about just becoming the best version of yourself. And today I'm really excited about this conversation because it hits home and you guys will know why here in just a second. So, anthony, welcome to Call my Brother, excited to have you on.
Speaker 2:
I appreciate it. Thank you so much for your time and the opportunity to be on your show.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, man, hey. So tell us, tell us real quick what do you do? I mean, obviously I can tell them from my perspective and I will, but what's your brand? Tell them what you do. I want them to know and hear that from you.
Speaker 2:
Sure, yeah, no problem. So online specifically, I'm a sobriety coach and peak performance coach. So basically what I do is, you know, outside of the traditional ways of getting sober like NA, ca, aa, I've implemented my own thoughts and thinking patterns from how I got sober and kind of put them into a 90 day program and I decided to dedicate the rest of my life to helping people who are struggling and specifically helping people who've tried other methods and it didn't work. Because those are kind of the guys that and I only work with men, by the way but those are the guys that kind of have that extra layer of hopelessness. Like if you're a drug addict, you already have that kind of, and an alcoholic, you have that, that lingering helplessness, hopelessness already. But if you've tried these other ways of traditional sobriety, then it's not, it's not sticking. Then that's kind of where I come in.
Speaker 1:
Awesome. I'm excited to dive deeper in that, but before we do, I just want to know your story. So tell me, like, what's your story? How did you get started in this? I mean, obviously there's a past, so yeah yeah, quite the past.
Speaker 2:
So yeah, I'll start from like when I was a kid, small town living, grew up in Bowling, alberta, just a little town on south of Edmonton here, and my parents split up when I was about in grade five, came to the big city and started getting getting in trouble with the city boys, getting a lot of fights and all that kind of stuff and and going down the wrong path and I got expelled when I was in high school for fighting. I used to box and this guy kissed my high school girlfriend so I had to fight him. It's kind of the rules and yeah, I fought him, won, I heard him like I knocked him out and actually it scared me quite a bit because I didn't know he wasn't moving. I didn't know what was going to happen to me or to him and thankfully he got, who's okay. I went to the hospital and he was all right and they expelled me for that and I moved in with my dad and right when I moved in with my dad I squared right away Big dude, power lifter in construction, have a lot of respect for him and he kind of got me on the straight and arrow and fast forward a little bit.
Speaker 2:
I moved out when I was 18 years old with a couple buddies saved up for a condo. I was very disciplined. I always worked out. I always wanted to make the football team and hockey team Up here hockey is football for you guys, it's a way of life, right. So made all the big teams, all that kind of stuff through working out, loved the regiment of it. So I kept that discipline. I decided to save up some money and one of the things that I noticed while I was saving up for money is that I was drinking a lot on the weekends like binge drinking, and it was normalized because I was with everybody that was getting drunk as well, and the legal drinking age here is 18. So we would just get blackout and I would get way more blackout than everybody else. And I kind of started to notice that I had this thing about me where I couldn't. I always needed more and that's for everywhere In a good way, like one more rep, one more set, but also like one more drink, one more shot, one more hour of drinking. So I decided to, instead of drink on the weekends, I decided to work at the bars so that I wouldn't drink, because I couldn't drink and I followed the rules and then I'd save up about a condo At 19 years old, first one of my family to buy a, to buy a con like out of all the kids that is, to buy a condo, really proud of it.
Speaker 2:
Put myself through Nate, which is a technical school here, so I became a journeyman carpenter, journeyman, red Seal carpenter. And then, yeah, I, just I met again same thing as when I was a junior high just started rolling with the wrong crowd, a Couple guys from the job site that were, you know I looked up to they're a little bit older, they were. They kind of had everything going like they had the bill that wanted, they had like they're covered in tattoos, they, they're just cool, right. So, whatever they were doing I wanted to do. And One day we went to this party and cocaine was there and I was like you know, I saw these guys do it and they looked like they had their shit together and stuff. So, yeah, I tried it. And the second it went up my nose. I was like I'm so screwed here, like this is a, this is something I really like, that feeling of it's just like you know, I Felt invincible if you will get to run through walls. You know I don't need it, I don't need Kevlar, I'm bulletproof. You know that kind of feeling and, yeah, it started to get. You know, you get away on me. I was doing every Saturday and then it was every Friday, saturday, and During that time I started a company, because it's something I always wanted to do.
Speaker 2:
And I started a construction company and you know I was. I was really good at the Sales part of it and really good at the construction part of it, really bad at collecting and really bad at keeping books and the back end stuff. So I used to be a pretty meek kind of guy, like not the true definition of meek, but I was. Basically I was just a pussy and I wouldn't collect money. I would listen to all these stories you know all my grandma's in the hospital and I have to pay for all these bills and I'd be like, okay, well, you know, pay when you can, all that kind of stuff, which is hilarious because we have free healthcare here I can't believe it's all for that.
Speaker 2:
And and I just was, you know I wouldn't collect and I started to get stressed out about it and money wasn't coming in but money was going out and I was married at the time. I got married at 22 years old, like pretty young, and you know she's not seeing the lifestyle I promised her. And so all at once, there's three big job sites I had to front and none of it was paying me. My wife at the time was unhappy and she wanted to leave. And then she started actually, she started drinking and she started drinking every day to like a bottle a day of wine, which was which was really difficult to deal with as well, and so at all, just kind of like five or six things all at once just started to seemingly implode on me and instead of you know Telling the truth and talking to someone and you know whether that was a Accountant or a financial advisor, a mentor or my dad, my mom, whoever I decided to just kind of bear it and I Waited too long and I got to the point of no return where I was never gonna be able to pay any of this debt back. I started not being able to pay any of my sub trades. My wife left and I just said, you know, fuck it. What's the one thing that made me feel better?
Speaker 2:
Cocaine, cocaine and alcohol, and it was. It was very accessible to me because the drug dealer and I were kind, of you know, I'd say at the time we're kind of buddies Now, obviously not friends, but the true definition of a friend, that is but so he was always there. He was always there. Every time I texted him and called, he'd show up and and I, you know, do a little side job and get some cash and I would give him money for drugs. And I went from doing Every Friday and Saturday night to, you know, wednesdays, thursdays, and then, before I knew it, it was every single day and then it was a three to four grams a day and I just, yeah, I lost, I lost my mind, I lost my health.
Speaker 2:
At the time I was very into I wasn't going on stage bodybuilding, but I worked out like a bodybuilder. I wanted to be, you know, good size. So, to put it into perspective, I was 511, I was 210 pounds and I quickly got to 147 pounds In a matter of a couple months because I wasn't eating, didn't have any money for food. Well, I didn't delegate any money for food and I just withered it away into pretty much nothing. And the condo that I bought, I bought it because it. Yeah, it overlooked this man made lake and it was kind of like a nice ravine and I bought it for that reason and I ended up getting my condo repossessed. I got my truck repossessed, everything taken, so I ended up living in that ravine for a year, which was Obviously very difficult. And, as we just discussed, I'm up in Edmonton, so our winter is our where Celsius here, so I don't know what it equates to, but minus 42 is a coldest it ever got.
Speaker 1:
That's wild, so that's cold. Yeah, dang man, it was cold. Okay, so we've heard the story of where you were. How did you get out of that situation? Tell us about that, sure.
Speaker 2:
So lucky for me. It just so happened I ran out of money and by that I mean no one wanted to hire me anymore to do little side jobs or anything like that. I probably smelt too bad because I wasn't showering. I lost everything. I just kept my tools. Mind you, I showered at the gym and all that stuff. Luckily, I paid for a whole year at the gym when I had money, so it gave me a discounted rate so I had access to the shower. I just had to get there, which was 15 kilometers away. In any case, I was three days, no drugs, no alcohol. So I started to kind of get my brain back. That's about what it takes about three days. And then you start to think about. You start thinking the way you normally do your scruples come back, your morals come back, your drive certainly doesn't, but you know who you were and you can recognize yourself a little bit in the mirror.
Speaker 2:
On day three I was behind the 7-Eleven in an alley and a guy that I used to work with. He was a tile setter and he happened to be a Christian guy and he happened to be driving and he had to fill up at that 7-Eleven and he saw me and he was like Anthony, is that you? And I was like, yeah, yeah, man, it's me. He's like what happened to you? And I just I don't know why, but I just told the truth. I was an addict for about five years, but I was heavily addicted for a year, like a daily user for a year, and all you do is lie. You lie to my parents about, you know, my house getting taken away. I lied to everyone like why don't we see you all? I'm busy, I'm working on the rigs, all that stuff, and for whatever reason, I decided to tell the truth and my buddy said, okay, well, you're going to come with me. So, and again, I didn't really know him that well, he was a sub-trade on a couple of job sites and I had maybe a dozen interactions with him before this. And I said, okay. He said, you know, I happen to also need a carpenter. I don't know how to do baseboard or anything like that. So I'll supply everything and you just stay with me and my house and my buddy's house and I'll drive you to work. We'll stay together. So I said sure, and on the way there I just started opening up and I said you know, this is where I've been. This is where I'm at.
Speaker 2:
I tried to kill myself twice. One time was just maybe to feel it out, if you will. The other time was for, you know, for keeps, and just by some miracle I didn't. We don't have, we have very limited access to firearms up here, especially restricted, like handguns, and my buddy had a safe and I tried to. I tried to trick him into letting me see it and I didn't know how guns worked, so it was like tagged and there was no magazine in it. I'm like, oh cool, and I just gave it back Like I thought I was going to be able to kill myself there and it was. I was so gone that that's what I wanted to do.
Speaker 2:
And that night I tried to OD on alcohol, cocaine and sleeping pills and again, like by some miracle, I didn't. So I told him this story and I said I'll help you as a carpenter, but I can't have any cash. I can't have any cash and in fact, you know, even though I don't have money in my wallet, I had it in my debit card and if money got in there somehow by you know, whatever, I can't have access to it. I will be lying to you. If I say I need to go park my car or I need to go for a walk or whatever, I'm lying to you. I'm trying to get drugs. I just knew at that moment. I had to just tell him the truth and that's what I did. So we he followed that. We created a plan and I just said you know, assume I'm lying if I'm trying to get away from you, if you're being annoying to me, just follow me.
Speaker 2:
And we just started hammering out small bathroom renovations and I started to become myself again. I started to get the endorphins from finishing and completing jobs. I got started getting dopamine again by lifting heavy things and, you know, baseball and two by fours and four by fours and all that kind of stuff and doing the demo. And we we had no money because he was, he didn't have that much money, he was blue collar guy. So we did everything the hard way because we didn't have money to rent equipment or anything like that.
Speaker 2:
So we were like smashing up driveways with sledgehammers and then putting those in the bin and I started to feel like, oh my God, I'm working out again, like I started to feel better, and that kind of like you know downloaded into my brain where I'm like, okay, I feel good when I get my serotonin, my dopamine and my endorphins, but I feel good when I earn them.
Speaker 2:
I don't feel good when I get them on the cheap through drugs or alcohol. So yeah, we just kind of kept progressing and we decided to incorporate and start a company together and I just started becoming myself again and I created you know, you got to know yourself to be able to create plans and execute the plans. So I decided to create plans for the week and that was kind of working alright. And then I started to make plans each day. You know I have to work out, I have to do this, I have to do that, and those are like little check marks on my list are hitting me with those endorphins and that's kind of how I got my brain back. If you will, that was the start of it.
Speaker 1:
So okay, so you had help. You had somebody come in and really create some accountability for you. You really helped, really just hold your hand every step of the way, which is like amazing that you had. You know that's, that's God given man. I mean you say that you didn't die. I mean you have a bigger purpose. Clearly that it's not. You're not done in this world yet. So you know, yes, sir, yes, by the grace of God, man, but I don't know what you believe, but you know I believe that. So what do you do now? Like it's not like addictions just go away Right, like, yeah, you're always going to have some sort of fight that you're that you're having to fight, to fight some sort of urge to want to go back to the person who you were. Right, I mean, or am I wrong? I mean I'm assuming that it doesn't just go away 100%.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, you're exactly right, it's not a, it's that that part of my soul, if you will, and my mind is always there. So I have to do certain things every day and that's why I'm successful in it. So one of the things that I, that I always say, even to my clients and to anyone, really, I believe that there's the metaphor I use, or the analogy I use, rather is there's two beasts inside of us, and there's a good one and there's a bad one, and you'll never, ever, ever, get rid of both. You can't kill one or the other, but you can starve one and feed the other. And so what I have to do is I have to be regimented, not super like, you know regiments like, militarily like, but close, damn near. I would say. I've never been in the military, so you know I don't really know, but from what I've heard, it's very. You know, buds and things like that are very like this time, this time, this time, this time. So like learn, doing some deep work and doing some self development. I've learned myself well enough that I know where, what my triggers are. You know, avoidance is key at the beginning. So you know the saying I'm sure you've heard this at Nazium, but show me your five closest friends, I'll show you your future. Very much believe in that. I had to. I had to get rid of all of those, all of those friends, because, really, what they are? They're just drug buddies and they're they're with you because you know cocaine is normal. It's it's normal to put a big pile of cocaine on a dinner table with these guys and then just do it all night. Can you imagine going to like to a meeting with, like you know, jocko and Cam Haynes and you and Joe Rogan and just putting like a big pile of cocaine and be like what the fuck are you doing? You know, yeah, yeah, exactly so, yeah, exactly Right. So I had to get rid of all those people. I had to understand my triggers.
Speaker 2:
So one of the things that works for me is rigorous exercise and Jiu Jitsu, some sort of combat. I boxed for a really long time, but now my well, when I was younger for a long time, but now I'm just into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. So I just make a, I make a plan to fulfill the needs that I need as an addict and do it in a healthy way. So I earned the big three. So every morning, 415 in the morning, wake up, have some water, have some greens, go to Jiu Jitsu. I drill for an hour with a friend of mine and then after that I do class, so there's a little bit more drilling, 30 minutes of drilling, 30 minutes of sparring, and yeah, that's how I start every single day. And yeah, then I, you know, kind of clock in at work if you will and make sure my clients are okay. I also own a construction company that I've now since kind of stepped away from. It's kind of doing its own thing now and I'm just diving into the coaching and eventually going to be building a new age rehab clinic.
Speaker 2:
So, yeah, working on that, moving the needle forward every day on all those things, is really, really important to my recovery. So, yeah as well, talking about it too, not being afraid to, you know, if a trigger comes up or I feel, you know, agitated about something, I'll talk either to a friend I trust, because that's really important, trusting the person, knowing that they're not going to use it against you in the future, finding those people, trusting to them, especially like-minded people, like you know. I can't imagine, if you were talking to a regular civilian about deployment, that you would be able to come across like you wouldn't have to be confident that they know what you're saying. Like how do you do that? Like you have to talk to a fellow Conrad, I'm sure In addiction it's similar in the way of you have to talk to someone who's been through it as well.
Speaker 1:
So, man, that's incredible. So what I got from this and you can correct me if I'm wrong I got five things so far just in my head that I put down and you know, first off, I love some of the things that you said. You know you got to starve one and feed the other. You know, and I feel like that's so true because I feel like anything that I've ever struggled with in the past, it's like when you feed it, it wants more and it wants more and it wants more. And if you don't give it more, you know, initially it's painful but on the long term it works out right Because you're starving it. And I think that three-day period is amazing of what you came up with. I think I read on your website take a drink and eventually the drink takes you. I don't know. Is that how? The saying?
Speaker 2:
goes. Yeah, it goes. At first the man takes the drink and then the drink takes the man.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, man, that's powerful. And I can't tell you, dude, how much how this touches me, because you know the military is very. I don't know how the Canadian military is, but the American military, like where I came from in the Navy, you know it's. The sayings are like you can't trust a man, you can't have a drink with. Work hard, play hard. You know mediocrity is for cowards, right. And so what do you do when you go drink? You drink. You don't just drink chill, you drink and you you know, you binge drink, yeah.
Speaker 1:
So what I came up with all that stuff, man is one change your environment. Change the people that you're hanging out with, probably change the, even the music that you're listening to, like. Surround yourself with positive people. Level up the inner circle that you have to where they're like. If I, if I, if I was thinking of you know being an essential alcoholic, I'd probably want to just completely rearrange the inner circle and people who are super health focused. So I'd go join a gym or a jujitsu gym, like you did, and just only hang out with those dudes who were like super focused on only that, you know, and not going out and drinking. I mean, that's that's powerful.
Speaker 1:
And two, understanding your triggers and I have a question on that after I get through all five. Three, replace them. Replace some of the, the, the, the activity that you were doing with probably, um, healthy dopamine hits, if I'm kind of reading that properly, right, like you said, you replaced it with fitness. So that kind of goes into what I was just talking about. Stay busy, I don't mind, as a devil's playground workshop, which is in the Bible. Which is in the Bible. It sounds like if you're bored, you're probably going to get more triggers. If I'm not mistaken, you're a hundred percent right.
Speaker 1:
And then number five is call your accountability partner. Have somebody that you could trust. It's not going to hold it against you and I love that. The question is that, all right before I move on? Yeah, absolutely, absolutely right. Okay, and so triggers how do you help people identify what their triggers are? Are they just going home and writing them down? Are they writing them down as they're going throughout the day, like what are some of the things that you do? And then I want to get into some of the coaching that you do as well.
Speaker 2:
Sure, yeah, so that'll. This is a great segue to the coaching as well, because it's part of the coaching. But so every time somebody uses like, I tell them to go back and think about every time they've used like what, what has been around you, where have you been, who have you hung out with, what's going on? And it takes a couple of tries, because usually they're like I'm in my living room and that's all they give you. And then you're like, okay, well, you know what movie was on what? What music? I love that you said music, because music is huge.
Speaker 2:
I used to listen to. I used to do draw, like do cocaine and drink, and I would listen to Rolling Stones. I can't remember the name of the song, but it's at the very beginning of the movie Blow with Johnny Depp and Goodfellas as well. It's in there and that until a couple of years ago, honestly, man, I would hear that song on the radio and I would kind of like I would feel like that and I'd be like, oh, and I would, I'd cringe and I'd change it and we're so, we're so in. You know, I believe there's there's like an energy everywhere, and how you, how you harness that energy, it sticks with you. So if you're always listening to the same song while you do drugs, you're always going to relate and correlate that song to doing drugs.
Speaker 2:
So I always get them, get my clients, to go and think about what their triggers are, and they usually have about 10 or so, and then I, you know, halfway through we really like dive into what else it could have been. And it's it's always songs, movies. There's usually, there's almost always people it's either a boyfriend or a girlfriend. That's like very toxic. And also one of the triggering things too is the lack of doing something healthy. So if you were, let's say you were a CrossFit person and then you got, you get injured and you can't do CrossFit anymore but you're, you know, a recovering addict, the chances of you relapsing go up because you can't do that escape that you normally do. So as much as that's good for us, we can't solely rely on it. Like, I'm sure, in in in the seals, you always had backup plans, I'm sure contingency plans so that's something we work on as well is the thing that you're that's helping you get through. You have to have a contingency plan in case that falls through as well.
Speaker 1:
Man.
Speaker 2:
I can see that.
Speaker 1:
I can see that cause. Guys in the seal teams even do it. It's wild because you know they're operating at the highest level and sometimes they get out and they struggle because, like you're saying, they can't perform doing the things that they used to do and they don't, sometimes don't know how to kind of transfer that energy. Like, I had a mentor man and I'm pretty sure he's Canadian, but he's named Bob Proctor. He just passed away. Do you know Bob, bob Proctor? Yeah, yeah, he used to teach. He teaches it all the time. You can still look at it on YouTube.
Speaker 1:
We're energetic beings that are vibrating. You know, like we all have a vibration. Like if you look under thermal goggles, you have a heat signature and you know it's different each person. But like our cell phone, we each have our own cell phone number. I mean, every one of us have a different vibration. That you know, that frequency that we vibrate on. And so I'm right in line with you, man, and people have to understand that. You know you're going to attract the vibration that you're currently on and so you got to change your state of being, like you got to change your energy state. And you know, I have a mentor, ed Milet, who talks about that.
Speaker 1:
Like I was in his Arita syndicate back in the day and he said you know what I do when I'm trying to get creative. I get into the shower, change my state. I go work out, change my state and all of a sudden thoughts start coming to you because you're in a higher frequency. So to me it's like okay. Well, if you're going to remain in a lower frequency, that could be a huge trigger sitting in your living room, listen to some of the other frequencies that you're used to being an addict on. Okay, change your state instantly, right. Like, change it now. Go get in the shower. Like, go go work out, go do something now, right yeah.
Speaker 2:
This is amazing because in my program to you, I teach that if you have that feeling that only an addict knows where, you're like, holy shit, I'm going to use it's not. There's like thinking about the drug, let's say cocaine or alcohol. There's thinking about it like it's this inanimate object, but then there's like thinking about it like you're going to do it and you got about 15 seconds before you make. You either feed the good beast or you feed the bad beast. And in that 15 seconds I say, once that comes up, you immediately change your environment. So if you're in the office, you go for a walk, go like leave right now and while you're walking, call me and we'll talk you off it. And that's sometimes that's literally all it takes.
Speaker 2:
The other one, too, that you said the cold shower. So if you, if you have that feeling and you're like 10 feet away from your shower, all the way, cold, even if you have your clothes on, get in and holy, you know, wake up, you know and that's yeah, that just that was great, that you just said that, because I'm like, yeah, that's exactly what I, that's exactly what I talk about. So, yeah, that's perfect and yeah, that's a great way to to mitigate your triggers and feed the good beast and start the bad beast at that moment.
Speaker 1:
I mean, everybody's addicted to something. Not everybody, but majority of people are addicted to something, whether it's you know some people. They're addicted to their emotions. They have an emotional home that they just can't get out of, and it's either fear or lack, or anger, or living in the past. I mean, some people are addicted to the feeling of living in the past, which just sounds wild, but we all know those people. You can say, hey, you know it's, it's a beautiful day, and they're like, no, it's going to rain on Sunday, you know, and they're all like angry and upset.
Speaker 2:
I can do it. Yeah, it's like, it's so sad and that's a very, that's a big. There's a lot of parallels with with addicts that use like more opioids, like that. Like that type of mentality is more of like the opioid and just alcohol type user, whereas the guys that like want to go to the next level and like don't want the party to stop, that's more like meth and and cocaine and crack and things like that. So it's it's amazing how personalities you can almost peg what they're addicted to just by listening to their, their like what they're speaking.
Speaker 1:
Interesting. Did you come from Ohio, dude? That's where I grew up. You know Ohio. There's big addictions with with pills I mean it's. I've had family members affected and it's. It's pretty wild Like they're not the same people at all. You're like who am I talking to right now?
Speaker 2:
This is not you Like yeah, just like they're having a demon, it takes over.
Speaker 1:
Literally. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty wild, so, but yeah, I mean, I mean, some people are addicted to sugar, some people are addicted to porn. You know a lot of guys are addicted to porn, oh for sure, yeah, you know so that. So I love what you're talking about because this can translate to you know, it sounds like it can translate over, if I'm not mistaken, to all aspects, almost, yeah, definitely, yep, well, cool man, well, dude, thanks for being on, man, I guess let's.
Speaker 1:
Let's talk about your website, your social media. Where can they find you? You know, obviously, if they know it, listen, if you're listening to this right now and you're not an addict, you know of an addict. You know somebody who wasn't either as an addict now or was an addict in the past. If they are still struggling, have them reach out to Anthony. It doesn't cost anything. Just have them reach out, okay. And then, anthony, I'm assuming you have probably some sort of free call that you can get on with somebody and then from there, you know, if they want extra coaching, it probably costs a bit of money, but yeah, walk them through that process maybe, yeah, sure.
Speaker 2:
So yeah, if you reach out to me on my website, depositableprinciplecom and quick little rant about that, the Roger Bannister effect is something I'm really into, the four-minute mile, and I just want to know, I want everyone to know that I thought there was a greater chance of me literally jumping to the moon from my feet from standing position than there was to get for me to get sober, and I did it, and so I want everyone to know that it's possible, no matter how far gone you are, with some work and some guidance, you will get sober. You can do it, it's possible. That's exactly where my catchphrase came from. So, yeah, you can email me at thepossibleprinciplecom, you can DM me. My handle is at mrzorzetto and you DM me, we chat a little bit on there, we book a free call, the call is as long as it needs to be and we go from there.
Speaker 2:
It's a 90-day program. We talk every single day on the phone, high accountability, and I got a 98% success rate with that right now. I got a guy that's six years sober right now and I have how many do I got now? I got several people in the program Lots that have got their one-year chip. I use dog tags you might appreciate that from the military. So instead of AA uses chips, I use dog tags and it has your 90-day, but I put it in Roman numerals, xcd, so it's not still a bit less more subtle. So the office doesn't say you know, it doesn't say 90-day, sober on it. And then every year you get a gold one that says one Y, two Y, all the way to Frith. That's forever. So hopefully one day if someone gets on my in my program they get a big stack of dog tags and they've been sober for, you know, 20 years or something.
Speaker 1:
Man, I love your mission, dude. I love, I love what you're doing. And listen, guys, I'm not just on here telling you guys to do something. I'm not doing Like. I have somebody that I'm going to pass to Anthony literally right after this call, that I know is struggling, is a good friend of mine and needs help. Man, good dude, high performer, doing exactly what you said. A high performer, somebody who's the life of a party what would he start doing?
Speaker 2:
You already know.
Speaker 1:
Yeah. So guys reach out to Anthony, follow him on social media, anthony, thanks for your time, brother. Guys, comment on this post, subscribe to the podcast, download it and get this word out to people Okay, remember what you get in life, what you give. Okay, like, like, it's just the reality If you give, you're going to get. And so what do I mean by that? Like, put this out on social media so people can get their eyes on Anthony, so that maybe, if it's not somebody that you're struggling with, but it's somebody that is in your audience, on your stories, maybe they're struggling with this, and just by you sharing this, they might be able to see Anthony's mission and the power of what he's doing right now, and maybe they're willing to send it off to somebody to get in contact with them. So let's get the word out there. Thanks to Anthony for your time, brother, and I appreciate you for being on, appreciate you. Thanks, man. Stay on for a second.