Healing through Ancestral Clearing: An Inspiring Journey with Elizabeth Kipp!

Hello Beautiful souls! Are you tired of being held captive by chronic pain? Ever wondered if there's a way to overcome it without solely relying on medication? For anyone who can relate, this episode is a must-listen. Our guest is stress management and historical trauma specialist, Elizabeth Kipp, who shares her inspiring journey of rising above chronic pain, anxiety, and addiction. Elizabeth's testimony reveals how shifting to a positive mindset and exploring alternate healing strategies led to her recovery from an agonizing ordeal that lasted 40 years. You'll be amazed to hear how mastering one's mind can truly transform one's life, especially when dealing with chronic pain.

We take a fascinating journey into an often overlooked aspect of healing: ancestral clearing. Unresolved traumas and imprints are not just personal; they can also be inherited, lying dormant in our DNA, manifesting as blocks or limitations in our lives. We discuss how ancestral clearing helps clear these inherited energies, opening avenues for forgiveness that lead to inner peace. The potency of energy work and prayer in the context of healing chronic pain is also highlighted, alongside the value of integrating daily practices like yoga and mindfulness for overall well-being.

Lastly, we enter the realm of quantum physics. Wondering how it fits in? Just wait till we share insights from renowned scientists Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein about God's existence and the power of prayer. We emphasize the need to consider our energetic body in conjunction with the physical body for holistic healing. Moreover, we all hold responsibility for the energy we emit. Therefore, it's high time we acknowledge and harness this power for personal and collective healing. You won't want to miss our enlightening discussion on the transformative power of ancestral clearing, energy work, and the profound impact our mindset can have on managing chronic pain.

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Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:11

Welcome, beautiful souls, to another episode of Enlighten Elevate. Thank you so much for being here. We are now in the holiday season and I'm going to be releasing some extra episodes as a gift to each and every one of you. I'm so grateful for you. The holidays can be a joyous, loving and fun time, but they can also be very stressful and very challenging for others. Not everybody has a loving and supportive family, and many have lost loved ones that they dearly miss at this time. My guest this episode just wrote a post about this and I really wanted to share it with you because it is such a beautiful message and I didn't think there could be a better way to introduce her. Elizabeth wrote it is the season of the light. No matter the darkness, the light abides in all of us. Let kindness, the enduring strength of the light and our awareness of its awesome power continue to lead us through all. What a beautiful message, sending so much love to everybody in the world. Thank you for being here and please enjoy this episode.

Speaker 1: 1:18

Welcome to another episode of Enlighten Elevate. I am so excited to introduce my guest today, Elizabeth Kipp. She is a stress management and historical trauma specialist who uses trauma-trained and yoga-informed addiction recovery, coaching, ancestral clearing, compassionate inquiry and yoga to help people with their healing. Elizabeth healed from over 40 years of chronic pain, including anxiety, panic attacks and addiction. She now guides others to unleash their healing power, find freedom from suffering and live a thriving life. She is the best-selling author of the Way Through Chronic Pain Tools to Reclaim your Healing Power. Welcome, elizabeth, I'm so honored to have you here.

Speaker 2: 2:01

Thank you so much, Kelly. It's my honor to be here.

Speaker 1: 2:04

So, elizabeth, tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into the field that you're in.

Speaker 2: 2:10

Well, yes, thank you. I suffered with chronic pain for a long time and the doctors really didn't have a answer, which is why I suffered with it for so long, because they really didn't understand the nature of it. Their answer at the time, which would have been back in the 1980s, their answer was opiates and benzodiazepines, which is an anti-anxiety medicine. That's a pretty potent combination and I was on it for 31 years until I finally found a doctor who understood the nature of chronic pain and knew that opiates and benzodiazepines don't heal that. She had another answer.

Speaker 2: 2:49

Anyway, I learned a lot about pain along the way, and I learned a lot about a head of science background too. So I knew that the doctors were strapped, I knew that they were stuck and they didn't have an answer. This is the best we can do for you, and I knew that scientific paradigms change and we get new information, and so I just kept looking and I looked really outside of science as well into the energy. Healing techniques like Reiki and acupuncture was considered outside of Western medicine, and yoga was considered outside, and massage that kind of stuff. So those things were very helpful for me, keeping me flexed, as flexible as I could be, and I did the best I could with natural foods, but when you're on opiates, your digestive system is so paralyzed you're not taking in much nutrient anyway, so it's a problem. Anyway, I finally found a doctor who understood the nature of chronic pain. I went into his pain management program in 2013. I walked in there with 40 years of chronic pain and 52 days later I walked out with no pain.

Speaker 1: 3:58

That's amazing.

Speaker 2: 4:00

It is amazing and he never promised that would happen. He said he could help me reset my stress response. He knew I was having panic attacks, which is an effect of the long-term benzodiazepines. You take them because you have panic attacks and you end up getting them if you take them too long. That scenario within addiction. Specialty of mine now is a coach helping people as the doctors of TITRE, the patients off, been along benzodiazepines. I'm a great coach in that space as I've gone through it. I know the tricks. It's tricky getting off those. It's a real shift in the nervous system to try and come back to a regulated nervous system and I've walked that path.

Speaker 2: 4:39

One of the things that I experienced during the pain management program was really a shift in the mindset. I had walked in there thinking I'm a victim of this pain. It's doing it to me. And one of the first questions that Dr Prescott asked who managed? Dr Peter Prescott was the director of the program. One of the first questions that he asked, one of what did his class was and it wasn't just to me, it was the whole class.

Speaker 2: 5:08

There was about 20 of us in the room all suffering from the same some kind of combination of drugs that he was helping us detox from. We all had this because we were on it because of chronic pain. And he says what are you doing to contribute to your pain? And I thought to myself he is asking that question in this room, he's got a lot of nerve asking that question in this room but I didn't say anything, I just thought it. I didn't watch what happened because he's going to get in trouble, sure. And I realized he had a few more sentences later and I realized what he'd done by asking that question. He completely is a very empowering question. He actually flipped my script because, instead of me thinking, oh, the pain is doing it to me, he opened my mind to consider that, oh, maybe there's something I'm doing that's contributing to this pain. Therefore, I have power here, where I never thought I have power before, other than to just take it.

Speaker 1: 6:16

If you've got the power to contribute, you've also got the power to take that away. That is mind blowing.

Speaker 2: 6:22

That is mind blowing thing, yes, and I was like who are you? I want to know all the stuff that you know. He passed away in 2016, but he left us a book Conquer Chronic Pain an innovative mind body approach and it's available on Amazon. It's a great book on chronic pain. There's exercises in the back. I've done these exercises. They're very effective and it's a great companion to my book, the Way Through Chronic Pain Tools to Reclaim your Healing Power. His is done at the doctory researchery. It's an easy read, but it's data and sure millions of it, and Maureen is more.

Speaker 2: 7:04

I really wanted to capture the voice of a chronic pain sufferer, because we're not really honest in that space where we either complain all the time or we don't say anything at all, and neither one of those things are really the truth. I had this thing for so long and I was in so many in and out of so many hospitalism, surgery and this and that, and I've been in and out of so many doctor's offices. I've sat with so many chronic pain patients over the years. I know myself well, but I know them too, and we have certain things that we certain ways that we adapt to the chronic pain experience and I wanted doctors, nurses, family members, healthcare workers that work with chronic pain sufferers to know what that is, so that when they, when they're working with a chronic pain sufferer, or if you're in chronic or if you're in chronic pain, you understand the territory. So between Peter's book and my book, I think we're covered. And for the listeners, chronic pain is any pain that's felt 15 days out of 30 for three months or more physical, mental, spiritual, psychological. It's all the same to the brain. It all sends the same signal it hurts. So the brain can't tell the difference between a broken bone and a grief experience or a broken heart. It's the same signal. Any of those signals that's felt first, 15 days out of 30 for three months more, is chronic. These two books cover that.

Speaker 2: 8:30

Anyway, when I was in this treatment program I was being treated for chemical dependency as well, because I had been always medicine first up in an opiates for so long and benzodiazepines were also addicted. I was on a campus with 100 patients. 80 of them went to relapse school in the afternoon and 20 of us went there to the pain management. Not everybody was a product pain sufferer and I asked my counselor what about relapse? What's the story with that? Because I'm not getting any training in that and she said oh, there's an 80% relapse rate in the first year. So I was like I didn't like the odds for that. I thought I'm doomed If this is going to be harder than I thought. And the second thing I thought was what's wrong with this recovery model that we're using if we've got that high of a recidivism rate?

Speaker 2: 9:17

In that moment I thought when I get out of here I'm going to dedicate my life to seeing what I can do to raise to change the trajectory there on the relapse rate. I want to shift the needle and that's why I got into the work that I do. So that's why the trauma specialty, the historical trauma, the yoga very helpful trauma and trauma informed yoga so very specifically targeted and the ancestral clearing work they're all super powerful in this space of trying to find stability, trying to get the nervous system to find a new healthy normal. In a space where we've been adapting, addiction is really an adaptation and unhealthy strategy. But it's a strategy to deal with unresolved trauma and we need so that the body, the whole living organism, gets used to living in a certain frequency, a certain. This is the way we do life kind of thing and we want to. In recovery we can shift it, but we want to find stability within that shifting space. We want to find stability within the new healthy way of life. So that's where my work is pointed.

Speaker 1: 10:26

Sure, you're meeting people where they're at oh yeah, and then helping them to work through yeah, which is really amazing. I saw this on your website and I thought it was so cool. You wrote ancestral clearing is profoundly simple and simply profound and I thought, wow, that is just really how, exactly what it is. Let's talk a little bit about ancestral clearing For the people listening who are not sure about it's a healing modality, about what it targets and why we might need it. Do you want to Sure Love?

Speaker 2: 11:03

to. So ancestral clearing is a label for a modality that was pioneered by Howard Wills and developed and taught currently taught by John Newton of Health Beyond Belief. If you want to go to the source, you can go to John. I'm one of his practitioners, so I took the training. I took the first training out of pain track that I could. So I took the training in 2014, in May of 2014, and I've been in the work ever since, not just as a practitioner of it, but as a student of it, as a consumer of it. It's a very powerful practice. So what is it At this point?

Speaker 2: 11:43

At levels one and two, he used to just have five techniques and now, with level three, he's done an additional five or so, almost a dozen techniques, different ways that we can get to help people release the imprints the kind of like trapped imprints of unresolved trauma from the past. We don't really use the word trolla, unresolved energy. I use the word trauma because I've been traumatized and I work in that field, but strictly in ancestor clearing, we might work on the effects of unresolved trauma intergenerational trauma but we're not therapists or doctors, so we're very careful about how we word things and we don't make claims about. We can heal this and heal that we do the process and the person that's experiencing they report in because there hasn't been any scientific studies done on this. So full disclosure on that, but lots of anecdotal information, lots of anecdotal testimonials about how beautifully it works, and I was so surprised when I first experienced this. I was like what is this thing? Is it? Can you repeat it, and is it measurable? And does he teach it all those things? I was so surprised.

Speaker 2: 13:00

It's based on the understanding that we are coded within the DNA, really epigenetically with the information from the past, genetically and epigenetically with information from the past, and the unresolved trauma comes through. There have been mental studies done in science on this which we could go into. I don't think we have time on this podcast, but everybody can look it up. They can look up generational epigenetic changes and it's very interesting what they found. Rachel Yehuda has done beautiful work on the actually cortisol levels, which is a stress hormone Cortisol levels of a holocaust survivals and survivors or their descendants, and then the rest of versus the rest of the population, and they see that the descendants have different cortisol levels than the population that hasn't been exposed to that. Now the good news is that you might be more susceptible to stress there because of those generational experiences. Right, and that's not the only thing that's been resolved in the system. But we can always rebuild our capacity for resilience so we can shift that by practices and different embodied practices and change the way the nervous system lives life.

Speaker 2: 14:25

We're not really at the mercy of the things, this information we come in with. We're just ready. We're ready. We're affected by the things that happened in the past. People here will know things like oh, I've got this thing in, like I have worry, energy. I saw my mother worry and I saw my grandmother worry and I saw my father worry. I saw my aunts worry and I saw my maybe they had great grandmother. Oh, that's what my great grandmother did. Those kinds of things, those behaviors, were made with mirror neurons which we mirror each other. That's part of how we develop and how we learn how to get along as social animals when we're young, and so we mirror each other and it's natural that we have these things. But some of these behaviors are not healthy. Ancestral clearing is a process that helps us release I say release what is no longer necessary. It helps us. That's why yoga does that too. Yoga does it in a different way.

Speaker 1: 15:22

How would somebody be able to identify if they have limitations or blocks?

Speaker 2: 15:30

Great question, great question. Some of the things are unconscious. We say what's the current layer, what's the current issue? If I have an issue around, by the way, there's a war just broke out in between Israel and Gaza. So, as we record this, that just happened and it was interesting.

Speaker 2: 15:53

The way I reacted to that was I noticed right away the felt sense in my body around getting that news. Not that I was sitting in front of the newspaper watching a bunch of stuff. I just heard about it, I got the download and I got the summary and that was enough for me. Then I had to do some inner work because it was quite activating. So it activated, I felt it in the nervous system. Now that's a natural reaction. The question is how much of that is healthy and how much of that is left over from all the wars that my parents went through and my grandparents and my whole lineage went through. How much of that is from that. I really had quite a pretty much a full body reaction and I'm sure many other people are having that reaction on the planet right now. Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 16:46

The question is, what is that? Yes, that's a concern, but if not affecting my immediate future, it's not a threat to me personally, right in this moment, right. So what is that about? So that's what I'm saying. There's so much let down also, there's not just fear, but there's a great let down that why can't we just have peace? That's a whole other piece. So there's past war experiences and then the wanting the world to be together, and that's a whole other piece. And all the difficulty around community and that comes into, also brings up family issues, when families dysfunctional family. So there's a lot involved in one incident and how people react. They say oh, something triggered me. What's the stuff under the trigger? What's the stuff that the one event sets off? A chain event of a chain reaction of different things in the body because they're unresolved issues.

Speaker 1: 17:43

I'm so glad you just brought that up, because triggers are unresolved things within ourselves and I know, depending on what we're being triggered by, we don't want to admit that. Right, we're like, no, there's nothing wrong with me, there's something wrong with the other person or this. We don't want to be look inward and see what is this really about.

Speaker 2: 18:03

Oh gosh, when I have a reaction, I'm responsible for my experience and I'm responsible for the suffering or the happiness around my experience. If not, the experience is making me suffer or making me happy, it's my reaction to it, it's my perspective in it. That's the piece and that's the hard part for people. Yeah, I understand.

Speaker 1: 18:26

That's a really good way of describing it, though I really like how you just explained that. That's really good. I love that.

Speaker 2: 18:33

That's straight out of the yoga sutras.

Speaker 1: 18:37

That's good. So let's we can pivot a little bit and go a little bit towards. Oh, we didn't finish with ancestral clearing, though.

Speaker 2: 18:43

Your experience of it. I think I said there's almost a dozen techniques that he uses, but I can use one of them on the podcast in this sense of the term.

Speaker 1: 18:52

Let's do that.

Speaker 2: 18:53

Yeah, let's do that what it feels like. So we do the work in the form of an ask to the creator of all that is whatever you call that. You might call it creator, infinite divine spirit, god, something, and we're asking you to help us release that which no longer serves us, which is this unresolved energy and this unresolved stuff in the system that came from our families, and we use the word forgive to mean we're offering up that which no longer serves us. Everyone that's listening here and it works. We're doing it live now, but it's just as powerful on the recording, because we do the work in the present moment and whoever's listening is in the present moment. We can access the past, present and future all at once through the present moment. So it works. It works like that. So everyone that's listening, if you could just notice the sensations you're feeling in the body and maybe note the number from zero to ten in intensity of that sensation and just breathe normally and let these words pass over you, it just takes a few minutes.

Speaker 2: 20:08

Infinite Creator, all that you are a source of, all that is, was and never will be. We ask, humbly and bravefully, that you help everyone listening to this and all of their relationships, all of their ancestors and all their relationships throughout all relevant times-based dimension realms, lifetimes and incarnations. For all the times they felt let down by life, by family members, by relationships, by anyone representing the Creator in any name or form, for any time they felt let down by the Creator or any time they turned their back on the Creator or felt the Creator turned his back on down. Please help everyone involved to forgive each other and forgive yourselves, please, and thank you For all the times you were abandoned, not supported, nurtured, loved and cherished the ways that you needed, times you didn't support, nurture and love others in the ways they needed, anytime you were of integrity with another or another out of integrity with you. Please help all of you to forgive and release one another. Forgive and release yourselves, find peace with one another and find peace with yourselves, please and thank you For all war, battle, holocausts, genocide, persecution, slavery and justice of any kind, any oppression, any misuse of power, position or authority, politically, judicially, medically, spiritually or in any other way, for any slander, libel or any other misuse of the power of the word.

Speaker 2: 21:38

Please help everyone involved, directly or indirectly, to forgive each other and forgive yourselves All that happened, please, and thank you For all hurts and wrongs physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, sexual, financial through thought, word or action For all that happened and all you made it mean. Please help all of you to forgive one another and forgive yourselves, for the highest good, please. And thank you For all suicide, incest, murder, rape, abortion, infidelity, infertility, miscarriage all of it, anyone involved directly or indirectly. Please help all of you to forgive one another and forgive yourselves, please, and thank you For anyone who is stubborn, judgmental or bullied, for the times you didn't follow the knowing of your heart, for this and all regret. Please help all of you to forgive one another and forgive yourselves, please, and thank you For all hurts and wrongs to the earth, the life of the earth, native, indigenous, first Nation and Aboriginal people. Please help all of you to forgive one another and forgive yourselves For all that happened, no matter what it was. Be at peace with one another and at peace with yourselves, please. And thank you For any time you withheld love, any time you manipulated or violated another on their free will, for any time anyone did this to you. For any time anyone was trapped physically, emotionally, mentally, sexually, financially, spiritually or in any other way. For any time anyone felt forsaken and forgotten, locked up and forgotten or condemned and forgotten, and for all the associated inverse burden.

Speaker 2: 23:18

Please help everyone involved to forgive one another and forgive yourselves, please and thank you For all betrayal, stealing, gaslighting, backlighting, jealousy, secrecy or lying, for any time words were left unspoken just to keep the peace in the moment and any resulting resentment. Please help everyone, forgive each other, forgive yourselves, find peace with one another and find peace with yourselves, please and thank you For any time you felt believed or were shown you were enough, for the times you tried to earn or learn your way into the value of your family, your relationships or into the grace and love of the Creator, for all that led up to this and all that arose from it. Please help all of you to forgive each other. Forgive yourselves, please and thank you For all empathic hurts and wrongs, times you took on others, unresolved issues, carried your shoulder their burdens. For all adversity, struggle and hardship you saw, especially as children, for all dark night of the soul experiences. Please help all of you to forgive each other and forgive yourselves.

Speaker 2: 24:24

All family members and relationships, times this was done to you, times you did this to others. Please and thank you, god, all that you are. Please and thank you For the times you weren't shown or encouraged to stand up and speak up and do things in your way, for the times you didn't feel safe to say no when appropriate. Please help all of you to forgive your parents, family members and relationships. Help them all forgive you. And help you all forgive yourselves For the times you were attacked, blamed, judged and misunderstood. Many times you did this to others For any manipulation, deceit or rejection. Please help all of you forgive each other and forgive yourselves for once and for all. Please and thank you For all hurts and wrongs. Anything we left out. If it serves the highest good, we include it now, for all that happened and all you made it mean, everything that led up to and arose from, hurts, wrongs, limitation or burden of any kind that's not serving the highest good.

Speaker 2: 25:22

We ask all of you, everyone involved directly or indirectly, to forgive your parents, your grandparents, siblings, children, grandchildren. Help them all forgive you. Help you all forgive yourselves, please and thank you. You're all a family in lineage. Help you forgive your cousins, aunts, uncles, step in, laws, hidden, secret foster, adopted and all other significant people, beings, family members, relationships, role models and authority figures. Help them all forgive you, help you all, forgive yourselves. Infinite Reader, all that you are. Please and thank you for the highest good. Please help all of you to release all weight, pain, burden, sin, death, debt, negativity, limitation, all superstition, energy Spells, hexas, curse, is white magic, black magic, real or imagined? Please and thank you, please and thank you, please and thank you. Just take a nice big breath in and let it out and notice how that feels in the body and what the number is compared to when you started.

Speaker 1: 26:25

That is powerful, Elizabeth. When you started to just speak the words, I could feel things releasing in my body, just as you were speaking the words out. That is extremely powerful.

Speaker 2: 26:39

Yeah, it's interesting For me, having been trained in research, I'm like I want to measure it Right, I want to know what the measurement of that is. But my science mind has to take a backseat in this practice, because we're working with energies that science can only measure, that can only comment on that which you can observe, measure and describe, and we're working with energies in all. It is not just in the science-y part. My poor mind has to just appreciate the clearing. I feel clearing in that and I do this all the time and I feel cleared as I do it. It's interesting how much burden we all carry. It's just been undissolved and lineage. I know my parents had no idea how to do this and certainly my grandparents didn't have anything like this either. They just didn't have it. Anyway, it is prayer work. Prayer is very powerful. This is just a very targeted prayer, yeah.

Speaker 1: 27:39

Absolutely. Prayer is powerful. I think there's studies that have shown that. I'm reading one of Dr Joe Dispenza's book and he talks about studies that they have done with the power of prayer where it actually helped the group of people, because in the quantum field everything is now. The study actually showed that they got the benefits way back when it first started. There you go, it's like a mind-blowing thing. Prayer's work is so powerful and he has a lot of what you were speaking to with the ancestral clearing and people carrying resentment or anger or whatever. That's all programmed and if that's what you're thinking about or that's what you're holding on to, then that is what you're training your brain to do.

Speaker 2: 28:26

That's true. Yeah, that's true. I love his work. By the way, there have been studies where people have gotten together and done prayer work and they've seen an effect in communities. They've seen a positive effect. What happened to me? As soon as I got the word about the war at Israel today, after I was like, oh my God, I sat right down and I just dropped into prayer because I knew lots of people. I knew lots of other people were too. There's a collective, a lot of people are doing that today. Yeah, Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 29:04

I think I've learned too. Even when we go through things or somebody hurts us, I think something profound for me that I've learned through healing and forgiveness is that the only way that person who you had a difficulty with is going to get better is if you pray for them and send them love. Hating them and wishing ill is not going to do anybody any good.

Speaker 2: 29:29

We have to take responsibility for the energy we're putting out into the quantum field 100% Right, so yes absolutely, and I take responsibility for what we see the world as we are, not as it is. So the work this is why yoga, by the way, the work is to clear all the blocks I have to seeing the world the way it is.

Speaker 1: 29:57

That's so powerful. So yoga is very popular and I know you have a very substantial yoga practice right. You do it twice a day, oh no.

Speaker 2: 30:07

Once a day. But I teach. I have a practice that I do in the morning. Sometimes I do it twice a day. It depends on I might do it later today, but it shouldn't have been going on. But I normally just have a morning practice. I have a little bit of an evening before I go to bed kind of practice, but it's not the same as the morning physical practice.

Speaker 1: 30:25

When you work with people who are chronic pain, again you are like anybody can do yoga, we can do it from a chair, you can do modified poses, so you bring yoga to people. I'm sure a lot of people who hear yoga they go oh, I can't bend my body that way or I can't do this, but you can in a modified way. Right, you have a way of teaching people.

Speaker 2: 30:46

Oh yes, Also, yeah, and yoga is not all about poses, though it's partly. That's one of the eight limbs, there's a whole. I do an integrated practice which incorporates all eight limbs and with someone who has chronic pain once, I would start them with a breath practice, which is another one of the limbs, pranayama. I would start them there. I would just get them to breathe. That's because the nervous system is just so tight and we're not breathing properly. And, by the way, I've had a couple of compression fractures and it was like, oh, I can't do my practice, but I like I use it.

Speaker 2: 31:19

Sure, I used to take a big breathe. It was like I got the compression fractures right where the nerves go into the lungs. So it was, oh man, hard to breathe, but I knew I was going to have to. Really, our first nourishment is breath, so I knew that in order to heal, I was going to have to find a way to bring breath in, a powerful breath, just the best I could as I was healing. So I still had my yoga practice. It was just modified. And meditation that's another level of the meditation is hugely powerful in the chronic pain experience because you're retraining the brain instead of being in chaos. Chronic pain brings all this chaos to the brain. It trains the brain to calm. When the brain is calm, it can heal.

Speaker 1: 32:05

I think meditation is so helpful for a lot of reason, but calming yourself. And are you familiar with who David G is?

Speaker 2: 32:15

I know who he is yeah, that's the son of him as a teacher, but I know who he is.

Speaker 1: 32:21

Neither have I, but I liked how he described yoga. He says he starts the day and ends his day with it, because it's like bookends, and I thought that was such a cool way of describing it. And he's really cool too. He has some really, I think, some really beautiful stuff out there for people to access. So the eight limbs of yoga do you want to explain what they are?

Speaker 2: 32:41

I know we talked to you about but I think, for the purposes of this broadcast, what I'd really like to get people thinking about is paying attention to their breath. It sounds again profoundly simple and simply profound. We're born on an inhale and we die on an exhale, and the quality of our life depends on the quality of the breath in between. That's really where I get to stem, because I don't really know the level of the listener here and I'd like to everybody to have an idea of, as you said to before, yoga is now. We start with the breath, which is happening now. We're either inhaling or exhaling, and if we're holding our breath, hopefully that's conscious and it's not because we're upset or we're afraid, but we're actually. So I begin my day with a very specific kind of breath practice as part of my yoga practice. That helps wake up the system which is called alternate and also breathing. You all can look it up you just inhale on the left and then you exhale on the right and inhale on the right. Exhale on the left, inhale on the left again, switch and exhale on the right, inhale on the right, switch, exhale on the left and repeat. That actually activates both sides of the brain when you breathe in on the left side. That's the calming center. It stimulates the calming center of the brain. When you breathe in the left, the right side, it stimulates the energizing center of the brain and it helps you start balance the emotions and balance the hemispheres of the brain. It's a great way to start the day when we start with three to five to 11 minutes of that nice, long, slow breathing and then the bookend on the end of the day is one practice that I do Once. I just breathe in the left, nice, long and slow and breathe out the right. That's all it is. It's a breathe in on the left, breathe out on the right. As I inhale on the left, I'm imagining the life force, energy coming in with the breath, with the air. Then as I exhale on the right, I'm letting go a piece of the day. So inhaling on the left, bringing in life force, energy, exhaling a piece a day on the right as I exhale, that's a very interesting calming way to get the body prepared for bed.

Speaker 2: 35:10

And I was given that by one of my teachers and when I was in early, had just gotten out of that pain management program and I was wrapped up like a top. I've been so wild, my nervousness was so tight I hadn't unwound it yet and my body. As I said, when we breathe in on the left side, we're stimulating the calming center in the brain. So I'm giving the nervousness and the signal calm down and we're giving also giving it a signal that it's safe. I noticed I was so grateful that I had that practice because when I first started doing it it was 11 minute practice.

Speaker 2: 35:48

For the first 10 minutes and 45 seconds my mind is I forgot to do this and I did that and I have to go back and do this and what about that? And I'm doing this tomorrow and that's just like this. Yeah, super busy mind and I'm supposed to be breathing here, and anyway, it was very interesting to try and the mind was very insistent he goes, I got this thing to do, I got things to do, whatever, all that kind of stuff, and I'm still breathing and I'm watching the mind do the stuff.

Speaker 2: 36:16

I'm still breathing, but at the 10 minute and 45 second for days and days when I first started this, all of that stopped. The mind stopped, the body relaxed and I was like I had 15 seconds of peace until the 11 minutes was over. This is really interesting, it's a pattern and then the body got the message to oh, this is a prize. It was like I trained the body to get used to like oh, we can relax when we do this. So now, when I breathe in on the left I've been doing this for so long it just automatic. The body just says, oh, we're safe. It's interesting, but I was so wound up that, even though I'm breathing on the left side and stimuli in the calming center of the brain, it took a while for the brain to actually say she actually means it.

Speaker 1: 37:03

Sure, it means it, because we go all the time. Yeah, so we're not used to taking time to be quiet.

Speaker 2: 37:11

That's right and it's a great way to get the body prepared for bed. It's a really powerful way. That's the bookend on the end of my day and a gratitude practice. I have a little gratitude prayer. I do it night, I get up with a gratitude practice, with a gratitude prayer, and I end the day with gratitude prayer as well.

Speaker 1: 37:28

Yeah, that's beautiful. I think gratitude is very powerful as well.

Speaker 2: 37:32

Yeah, I think Dr Joe says a lot about that too.

Speaker 1: 37:35

It's grand, he does, he does Him and a lot of other people. Because gratitude is so important in our lives, we should never be focusing on what we don't have. We should always be focusing on what we do have and be grateful for what is the best moment?

Speaker 2: 37:51

Yes, but here's the thing. Listen, this is what I do, the work. I do that focusing on the scarcity. That's an lineage, and this is the fact that Mr Clarenwork is somebody's. This is the thing for me. I don't know how to shift my focus, and we do the assistant Clarenwork and that just melts away. It's really interesting. You may have to do it more than once, but depending on how easily it is for you to release it, that's an example of an ancestral frequency. Something that's happening in this moment has a root in the past. That's unhealthy. It has a root in the past and more than likely, it's got a root in the lineage. That's why I do this work and that's why I went into historical trauma to clearly understand what's happening in that space.

Speaker 1: 38:37

And when we heal something in our lineage, then the younger generations behind us, correct, they don't have to experience it because we've healed that in our lineage and DNA.

Speaker 2: 38:48

From a quantum viewpoint. Absolutely, we're healing, we're in the present moment, we're doing the work in the present moment. So the past, president, the future, all are accessed through the present moment. That's just the power of it. It's so cool. You brought Joseph Spenz's work in. He's really cool and he's amazing and he's got a lot of people doing studies and stuff on his work. He's got an old system going on and it's quite complementary to what I'm doing, for sure.

Speaker 1: 39:13

Yeah, that's amazing, Elizabeth. What else would you like to talk to the audience about today? Any closing thoughts or something you want to leave them?

Speaker 2: 39:22

with. I'd like to talk about something that came up yesterday that kind of surprised me and it would be interesting for your audience perhaps. I don't want this to be controversial, but I'm just going to tell you what happened. I had a friend who said that because Stephen Falking and Albert Einstein said there is no God, that she stopped the wish, she doesn't believe in God anymore. There's no God. And this was a person who's trying to heal and she has a religious background and so a lot of let down. So one of the things we find in ancestral clearing and in the chronic pain spaces people have a lot of let down in their lineage. Things have been let down about one thing or another.

Speaker 2: 40:00

I was taken aback by that because my view on that whole the creator energy is this everywhere at once. It's everywhere and, including in me and you. It pervades everything. So I was like I thought to myself wow, where exactly is Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein looking for evidence? What lens are they looking through to make these judgment calls? And I'm not even sure that the person who said that to me I'm going to have to go. I didn't go up and look Stephen Hawking, there is no God. I did look at that and he actually what he really meant was the laws of nature would be his version of God in quotes, that energy, and so there is no God. What does he mean by God? You know what I'm saying? So we have to be very clear about terms and what we're talking about, because people take things to mean things that maybe aren't optimal, and for her it was very depressing, and so it was interesting to sit across for her and trying to open the door to guide her to opening her mind to another possibility.

Speaker 1: 41:13

Yeah, and I think with Albert Einstein towards his later research and studies, I believe he changed his mind a little bit on God and in the creator.

Speaker 2: 41:22

He was very spiritual yeah.

Speaker 1: 41:24

I do agree. I think at one point he was there is no God, but I believe, as he did his studies, because he tried to disprove quantum entanglement and he couldn't. He couldn't do it, he couldn't do it, he tried and so, which I think he called it spooky action. That's it Okay, you got it, yeah. So I think.

Speaker 2: 41:47

Let's define that for listeners. So quantum entanglement, spooky action, what happens over here affects what happens over there because we're all connected. Right when I'm we're talking about the power of prayer, we're all in the field together. When I'm sitting here sending out a prayer right to a part of the world, you know that's with love. Right that's at war. That has a specific action. But if I was sitting and sending resentment, and how could that happen? And all that kind of energy that has an action, that has an effect as well. His work on quantum entanglement and spooky action prove that. This is why it's so important to be to understand we're all in the field together and we have to be responsible for the energy we're putting out because it has an effect.

Speaker 1: 42:48

It does in the case of the power of prayer. That's why it raises people up. I believe that the more inner work we do, the better off in the collective, because if we can work on ourselves, that is actually the best way to contribute to more peace and just a better outcome for everybody is you got to do the work on yourself. The more we heal, everybody heal.

Speaker 2: 43:13

That's right. That's the work of yoga to clear all the blocks to joy. Those are their internal blocks. They're not blocks out there, they're the ones that are inside.

Speaker 1: 43:24

I think on a deeper level took people actually really understood spooky action, that they maybe would be less likely to hate or hurt another, because when you're doing that it's coming right back at you.

Speaker 2: 43:36

You're hurting yourself. It's going in lots of ways. Yes, you're hurting yourself. You're affecting change. It's powerful stuff. Anyway, it was an interesting conversation around. It's like a fish saying there is no water. Where are you looking? You're in it. You can't see yes.

Speaker 2: 43:55

You know it's like that. Anyway, interesting the thing is if we understand that energy is in us as well and that the healing power is not in a doctor or a nurse or a therapist, it's in us. But a doctor and a therapist and a nurse and all the healing people, they're guides to help you optimize your experience so that you can heal the best way that they can show you, but they're helping you optimize the body. They're not doing the actual healing. Don't be confused with that. Right? Yes, that was a mistake I made earlier. I just kept looking out there with the power was here.

Speaker 1: 44:40

I think in the Western model too, when you go in, there's no talk of energy right or the energetic body. It's the physical body. When you go into the doctor, you're talking about where is the pain and the physical symptoms, but you're not considering the energetic piece of that when you go in. We all have an energetic body. We all have systems that correlate with the physical one. So I think maybe there's that piece of it too that you're not considering that component. It could have an effect.

Speaker 2: 45:09

This integrated. The Western model at the moment is this reductionist model. I have X-rays that look, I have a broken and displaced bone at the base of my spine, the fifth lumbar. It's held together with. It's held in place with a bunch of hardware. But at the time now, but when doctors look at that X-ray, if they're only looking at the X-ray, which is what they did for years, this is the way it is.

Speaker 2: 45:34

This is, you know, they made this assumption that I wasn't going to heal. They made an assumption. They said we don't want to heal this, therefore you're not going to heal. They never asked why I wasn't healing, they just assumed I wouldn't.

Speaker 2: 45:47

And it's interesting because you could look at three different patients that have a back that looks like mine, a spine that looks like mine, and you'd have three different outcomes. One, there'd be somebody who, one of the people, would be in pain all the time. Another one would be in pain only when they're stressed and the other one wouldn't have any pain at all. And how do you explain that? Just looking at the X-rays, at the physical, you can't. This is why chronic pain is a brain disease and it's a mind-body-spirit issue. You can't separate the two. This is the beauty of yoga. Yoga recognizes this and more on when Soda. Joseph Spenzup, by the way, he understands the integrated system. He's an integrative doctor, his approach is integrated and what I'm getting there is really not the way the Western model is set up, with the insurance companies and stuff, and there's some pressure in the system to change the system, but it's taking difficulty because of how awkward the system is.

Speaker 2: 46:41

That's a nice putting it.

Speaker 1: 46:42

Yeah, yeah, wow, elizabeth, we've had a really cool conversation today. All the things that we've talked about. I think it's been really dynamic and I think people are going to take a lot away from this. How can people work with you? How can they get in touch with you?

Speaker 2: 46:55

Sure, thank you. You can find me at my website, which is elizabeth-kipcom. You have to put the hyphen in between Elizabeth and Kip, otherwise you'll get a web designer and a photographer who's one amazing, but she's not me, elizabeth-kipcom. You can find me there. You can contact me through the website. I'm all over social media and you can book a session on the website. There's lots of free resources, lots of blogs and there's a bunch of it Sister Clearing prayers you can get too. There's lots of resources there for you. Take a look.

Speaker 1: 47:28

Beautiful. I will have all of your links and the link to your book, the other book that you talked about. I will have all of that in the podcast notes so you guys can just go right there and click to find Elizabeth. I want to thank you so much, Elizabeth, for your time and for talking with me today. It's just been an absolute pleasure to meet you and talk with you and work with you. I just want to tell you that I honor the light that you are in this world.

Speaker 2: 47:52

Thank you so much, Kelly. It is my honor and I'm so grateful for your platform. Thank you, Elizabeth.

Speaker 1: 47:57

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