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Activism Adventures with Tia in the Quirky Quagmire of City Councils
Have you ever stumbled upon a suspicious incident that sent you down a rabbit hole of activism and local government scrutiny? Tia, a digital creator and activist, joins us this week to reveal her own descent into the world of voter concerns and city politics. Together, we unpack the murky waters of election integrity, from ballot bungles to camera capers at polling places. Our back-and-forth takes you deep into the heart of city governance, where clocks don't tick and sewer bills skyrocket. Tia's candid stories and my own forays into challenging local governance will keep you on the edge of your seat.
Navigating the labyrinth of local politics can feel like a quixotic quest, but hold onto your hats because we're not shying away from the tough conversations. We scrutinize the movers and shakers within city charters, dissect the challenges of enacting change, and chuckle at the irony of a broken clock stuck at 4:20 at the Board of Elections. If that's not enough to pique your interest, wait until we discuss the perplexing social media bans and sprinkle in our opinions on those high-profile conspiracy theories. With tales of perseverance in the face of legal battles and the ins and outs of community engagement, this episode delivers a healthy dose of skepticism and humor.
Wrapping up our political odyssey, we dive into the social issues plaguing Lorraine, including a hard look at homelessness and the proposed solutions. Don't just take our word for it; hear firsthand accounts of city spending gone awry and question the allocation of funds along with us. We might even inspire you to take a closer look at what's happening in your own backyard. So, grab your headphones and join Tia and me for an episode that promises to engage, entertain, and maybe even incite a bit of civic passion. Who knew that a conversation about local governance could be this gripping—or hilarious?
We want everyone to enjoy the show and really appreciate your feed back
Have you ever stumbled upon a suspicious incident that sent you down a rabbit hole of activism and local government scrutiny? Tia, a digital creator and activist, joins us this week to reveal her own descent into the world of voter concerns and city politics. Together, we unpack the murky waters of election integrity, from ballot bungles to camera capers at polling places. Our back-and-forth takes you deep into the heart of city governance, where clocks don't tick and sewer bills skyrocket. Tia's candid stories and my own forays into challenging local governance will keep you on the edge of your seat.
Navigating the labyrinth of local politics can feel like a quixotic quest, but hold onto your hats because we're not shying away from the tough conversations. We scrutinize the movers and shakers within city charters, dissect the challenges of enacting change, and chuckle at the irony of a broken clock stuck at 4:20 at the Board of Elections. If that's not enough to pique your interest, wait until we discuss the perplexing social media bans and sprinkle in our opinions on those high-profile conspiracy theories. With tales of perseverance in the face of legal battles and the ins and outs of community engagement, this episode delivers a healthy dose of skepticism and humor.
Wrapping up our political odyssey, we dive into the social issues plaguing Lorraine, including a hard look at homelessness and the proposed solutions. Don't just take our word for it; hear firsthand accounts of city spending gone awry and question the allocation of funds along with us. We might even inspire you to take a closer look at what's happening in your own backyard. So, grab your headphones and join Tia and me for an episode that promises to engage, entertain, and maybe even incite a bit of civic passion. Who knew that a conversation about local governance could be this gripping—or hilarious?
We want everyone to enjoy the show and really appreciate your feed back
what live school do you go to? I can't in McKinley.
Speaker 2:McKinley.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm Pro football hall of fames, right next door.
Speaker 3:Akron.
Speaker 1:Canton.
Speaker 3:Canton same thing to us.
Speaker 2:I know they always say Akron canton. I guess one word.
Speaker 3:All right, I think we're ready. I'm going on right now. Right, meow, here we go. There. We are live video starting. Come on, let's go get your shit together. There it is, we're live. All right, we're sitting here with Tia. Friend of Scotty. Scotty introduced us here with Tia. Somebody's got their volume up. Friend of Scotty.
Speaker 2:Scotty.
Speaker 3:I'm not even on it, so it ain't me.
Speaker 1:It didn't go down.
Speaker 3:Somebody's got their volume up.
Speaker 1:Okay, I turned it down.
Speaker 3:That's good, that was easy. That was easy, all right. So now, scotty, I was interested in talking to you because, scotty, he told me, he said you gotta meet this lady, tia Hilton. Oh boy, he said she's kind of like an activist, you know this and that, and I'm like, I'm like really, and I'm trying to figure out because I didn't know who you were exactly. But I don't care that much, usually, too often but I mean I do when I watch Ballads in front of me. But you said you were a digital creator. That's what you do. Do you do that? Is that true?
Speaker 1:So I kept getting friend requests and I would just let them sit there. And then when I, it was like we were getting closer. I don't forget what it was, but anyways, I switched it on Facebook and it's mainly for politics and running my mouth.
Speaker 3:Oh, really that's all you do. Yeah, that's all it is, and somehow I got that many followers.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't even know that many people, but yeah, that's what happened.
Speaker 3:I should introduce you to my friend Krista and Avon Lake. She'd love you.
Speaker 1:Oh, I do. I am not afraid to run my mouth.
Speaker 3:Krista goes nuts, she's like won't go on Facebook, true social only now, and she like freaks out. But yeah, she goes crazy for all this stuff. You were saying that you got interested because you caught the board of elections doing something at one time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a couple of years ago, me and another gentleman were standing out. I believe it was the same year Trump and Biden were first running. Yeah, yeah, and it was just a couple of years ago anyways. Well, we were doing something like with the loud speaker. It was a candidate that was running probably even the charter, to get it voted down, because I put it on the ballot and then the assholes hijacked it, so I had to get it voted down again. Like so, a couple of days before the cameras in the back building and it was in the paper and it's on Facebook too if you wanna share it later the cameras were facing down towards the back ballot where they drop off their ballot box. You can pull around to the back.
Speaker 3:Sure yeah.
Speaker 1:There's the box right there. Well then, the day of the election, the camera was facing directly to the tree and I noticed little things like that.
Speaker 3:So how high is the camera?
Speaker 1:It's at the. You know how the back of the building is peaked. It was peaked right there, the tree At the very top. Yeah, so the camera's just right into the tree and I'm like so it's like 25 feet Now.
Speaker 3:but are those remote controlled Like, can you, or do they have like, or is it just set?
Speaker 1:No, they don't, they look old and no, they ain't. No damn remote control.
Speaker 3:They're not. They're not, so they didn't do it. So they had to get up there and do it there might be a logical explanation.
Speaker 2:Says who Like what? What do you got?
Speaker 1:There is no, that's bullshit. No way, no way. Well then, if you remember the Dennis Flores case, where people were registering homeless people and they ended up taking it to court and found voter fraud, I can guarantee you, I know and I truly know those little fuckers were cheating.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know it for sure 100,. No question about it, I know their mojo.
Speaker 1:I know their mojo. I know how they work. There is no way. Do you know what a provisional ballot is?
Speaker 3:It's yeah. Provisional ballot is when you aren't able to either vote in person or through the digital what out. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean If you have an issue.
Speaker 3:Correct.
Speaker 1:You know how. When you, when a regular person that doesn't have a, where are you going? You're not getting out of this, well anyways. So when I go to vote, I put my thing in the machine. It spits it out. I walk by the door, I put it in that they give me my sticker. I go on about my day. The provisional ballot is they let you put it in the first machine, but when you're done you take it to the next, to the desk. Then you they fold it up, put an envelope. You have to write, you have to sign your name, put your information so you're not falsified, whatever ballot, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Right right.
Speaker 1:So that's the only reason why they're sealed. Blank ballots aren't sealed. They have to open up the envelopes anyways.
Speaker 3:Well, no, they're not saying that. They're not saying that the blank ballots were sealed. What they were saying is that the bags the ballots were in were sealed.
Speaker 1:It's not what they told me. Ed Gallick called me when I sent him the morning journals thing. He called me and he said we're not gonna let this go. He said that they're all. They were all sealed and the seals weren't broken. I said they were not blank the bag, the bag or whatever that might have been sealed or whatever. But they were saying the ballots in there because they said two of the bags had provisional blank ballots, two of the bags did not. They were filled out already. That's where they caught themselves because they told the news.
Speaker 1:The journal, yeah, yeah and then they told the news a different story.
Speaker 3:And how can there be only 50 in there? I mean, that's our hope.
Speaker 1:There ain't no 50, that's why they shouldn't be working at the board of elections because they can't put the ballots right.
Speaker 3:I agree, but I was under a strong impression from everything that I've talked about and everybody and that's just talking with David DeCronical and then also with Ed Gallick I think I talked to him after you did and I think that the impression is that what we were being told is that it's the seal on the bag wasn't broken. So those bags were supposedly handled by Democrat and Republicans. Everything was placed in it and then the seals were put on it.
Speaker 1:Well then they all need to be fired because the Democrat and the Republican no, you cannot leave the building. Why did he need to leave the building with? I still say they were filled out Like there's. No, I know how they are.
Speaker 3:I don't disagree. I think something's shady about it. I'm not saying you're wrong.
Speaker 1:Why would that Democrat and that Republican allow a man to walk out the front door into a bar? Then they need to go. Also, if you I don't know if you know like you're really good with law or whatever, but the Sheriff's Department is the governing agency for the security of the Board of Elections. So, in that room there should be a Democrat, a Republican and a sheriff. How did he get past the sheriff?
Speaker 3:That's possible, that there?
Speaker 1:was.
Speaker 3:I don't know there's always sheriff's cars back there in the election.
Speaker 1:They can't make a move without letting the Sheriff's Department know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, they're supposed to be for sure.
Speaker 1:I literally as soon as Scotty sent me those videos, I called Frank LaRose on his cell phone. I don't give a damn if it's election day or not. You got a problem. This is messing with our integrity of elections. I sent him the videos. He said we will get right on this. Then he comes back with a statement. He sent me something that I don't get on Twitter I don't give a damn about Twitter and saying that they're looking into it, but they don't think the election was compromised. I called him back and said well, you're a dumb ass and I just voted for you.
Speaker 3:Wow. Well, I don't know if I feel as strongly as you. I think that there's a strong. I think that what happened and this is my opinion and I could be wrong and I think what actually happened is I think that they actually he took because he was running the Oberlin polling center and I believe that those bags were full of some provisional empty ballot sealed the bag sealed, not the ballots and I believe the other bags may have been equipment. That's what I've said in the past, like that's what I've said, cause that's where the weight would have came from. And I mean, I'm ironical and I joke around, but they could have said that Isn't transparency the one?
Speaker 1:And they allow them.
Speaker 3:Well, they did say that. I feel like that's what they said, but they cause. They said that it's normal for them to take them at night and keep them and then take them to their house.
Speaker 1:When you drop off those machines to the precincts. You drop off every single thing for that rate. Then and there?
Speaker 3:For the precinct. They don't pick them up at the polling station, cause that's what their argument is.
Speaker 1:So they pick them up in the evening after voting and then they bring them back. They have like 15, I think it's 15 to 21 days to count those provisional ballots right. So they so after voting is over 7, 30, 8 o'clock, whatever time it ends. They, every one of those precinct people, the managers for the precinct or what team leaders?
Speaker 3:whatever they call it. Yeah, but this is before. This was the day before.
Speaker 1:So they that's what I'm telling you when they dropped off the machines probably three days before they should have. They're supposed to drop all of that stuff off too. No election poll worker ever is supposed to take anything home, anything home.
Speaker 3:Well, that's what they said all over the news, yeah that's what.
Speaker 1:That's what. That's what has me is. He says it's not uncommon.
Speaker 3:He said it's standard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like where they got their rules out of a cracker jack box, because that's not. That's not how it works.
Speaker 3:You know more than I do, because I don't, I really don't know.
Speaker 1:I took what they said for at a face value, so I take nothing any of them ever say at a face value, because I've been dealing with them for so long on other issues and I could probably tell you the move they're gonna make before they even make it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because that's how I'm up their ass, all of them.
Speaker 3:Are you gonna run for politics? Have you have any interest in it?
Speaker 1:No, I will go to jail so quick? No way. Like I've had people come to me and ask me and I'm like nope.
Speaker 3:What got you so involved originally? What really got you kicked into it?
Speaker 1:So I kept getting a sewer bill. I don't know if you heard the story over the water and sewer lawsuit. I kept getting a sewer bill. At the time my water bill was $30. That's it. My sewer bill for three months was $1800. I literally took the bill. I called. Nobody would give me an answer. I took the bill to the water department. They threw me out of the water department, told me it's a bill, you gotta pay it. If I use 3000 gallons, how do I use 30,000 gallons? I don't. Nobody, not one person, shits that much. So explain to me. The numbers aren't even adding up. So then I found out it's all my other neighbors too. I had a 90 year old neighbor. Madeline's gallery is named after her, maggie Potts. She was, I think, 90 at the time. She was getting the same damn bill I was $1800.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I took it to city hall before I met with Jack while he was running for office. I met him at his law office.
Speaker 3:It sounds like you're full of shit.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I am not full of shit. No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:I mean that's a lot of sewage.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying oh, yeah, right, that is funny, but no. So I met with Jack and he said we're gonna get it fixed. My wife pays all the bills, like blah, blah, blah. I never look at them and I looked at mine like I can't believe we've been paying this. So the next city council meeting, he says he never met with me.
Speaker 3:Jack did.
Speaker 1:Jack, did you lying motherfucker? Yes, you did, and I, my husband at that point, because my husband doesn't do any politics, anything Like he hates dealing with the city of Lorraine. He'll tell you what's happening on TikTok and around the world, but he doesn't even go to council meetings.
Speaker 1:Right, okay, he went with me that day and my husband I've never seen him do this stood up, started screaming and said you can take that bill and shove it up your ass. And the news happened to be there and they threw him out of the council meeting. So I got a forensic attorney who does like civil rights, elections, all of that stuff. We found $50 million sitting in a slush fund from the ready to serve and the EPA fees and all of that that's like. So the way I'm understanding it is 30 million goes back to the city of Lorraine, 20 million comes to Amherst where I live for overcharges and all of that stuff.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So I'm like why don't we just turn it into a class action? There's people that's the middle of a pandemic. There's people out here that don't have water. You know they're supposed to do these payment plans and stuff and then they're shutting people off. You have a fucking lake in your backyard. Why are you charging these people that much for water? And I'm getting hit for even the whole city flushing their fucking toilet.
Speaker 3:I still don't understand. So what's your sewer bill now?
Speaker 1:So my sewer bill is it's around almost where it needs to be. It still has to go down, but it's nowhere near like it used to be. I wasn't paying it. I said, fuck you, they'd hit me with a tax lien. I'd have to pay the tax lien, then we'd be right back at square one. So, yeah, we had to go to court and get it expedited.
Speaker 3:So it was essentially 600 bucks a month for sewage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but who the hell in the right mind would pay even 600 dollars? I don't think the Boys and Girls Club would even pay 600 dollars in sewage.
Speaker 3:No, I mean, I think I've paid. I think I pay quite a bit, but not that much.
Speaker 2:No, I think what are you?
Speaker 3:It's well they charge you. Your sewage is typically charged and in most cases it's charged based on your water usage. That's how they kind of judge it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's a formula that they use. It's a little bit. It's like a one and a half times whatever your water bill should be, is that? Yeah, it's something like that.
Speaker 3:So we end up with that you know what I mean with quite a bit, because we do use a lot of water, but it's nowhere near that, it's not.
Speaker 1:I mean but they're charging you for rain water. It's just-.
Speaker 3:It has happened to me in the past, but it was only because we had a leak underground and the water was just leaking away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that would be on your water bill but not your sewer bill.
Speaker 3:No, it's the same, because that's the only way they come up with your sewer bill.
Speaker 1:Well, so I don't have water from the city of Lorraine, I have water from rural water. So my bill we would get two bills every three months and it would be split up from the city of Lorraine.
Speaker 3:That's how I am too. I have a water bill from Illyria and a sewage bill from Lorraine.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:That's how we are too. We're the same way, basically, but they still base it on your water usage. They still are going by your water usage.
Speaker 1:I probably use no more than 2,500 gallons of water a month.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have every bill from the day that this started all the way down.
Speaker 3:It's literally maybe fluctuated like 100 gallons 200 gallons, but it's semi-collected corrected itself at this point and it just did it on its own.
Speaker 1:No, because we, we didn't let it go. We kept filing motions and all of that, but we're still not. We're not done. Like we're still in court, like I'm not, I don't. You're giving these citizens every penny of their money back and they should, yeah, I agree and there's no way. I my attorneys know I Don't care what you think I should take, I'm not settling until these people get their money back. Nobody can afford to live right now like that's just the way it is and typically the one that doesn't give up.
Speaker 3:Usually it gets what they Want, typically so.
Speaker 1:I'm rolling.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's how it works.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that's we met.
Speaker 3:We met a woman who she had sued because her son got hurt in the hospital and and you know she got millions for this guy he actually builds. It's really cool. He builds drums out of garbage cans. Now he's disabled, he's in Brunswick is where he's at, and he's actually made drums for Elton John and some, some big names. I mean he gets huge money out of these now.
Speaker 3:But she got millions of dollars and we did a remodel the building that they actually used to make the garbage cans and then he was had living quarters upstairs and.
Speaker 3:We, we replaced the windows and Tom Banover, who's now the chief building official for Cleveland, he was one of my carpenters at the time and he had a bow window that went in there. And a bow window has cables. You know, that's how it works. When it's hanging outside your house like that, that little roof that's right there, there's cables that are attached and that's kind of what holds the whole assembly together. Well, he slid it into a 12-inch block wall and none of it was sticking out. So he cut the cables and just slid it all in and attach it. When she saw him, she wouldn't stop. I mean they, they were flying people in from Arizona. I mean she wouldn't stop and I'm like, but it's right, I mean everybody was telling her but she wouldn't shut up and I had to go by her in a window and you know what the worst part was I, I, I, I had to attach the cables inside and slide it in there.
Speaker 1:I attached them to the steel level go by a whole new window.
Speaker 3:I yeah, I did, and I mean I'm not, that's a $2,500 window, this is no cheap window.
Speaker 1:It was a big window.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah, and, and, and then, uh, am I? And at the time John goes well, can we reuse that window? And I'm like, no, the cables are cut, but which sounds horrible. But we didn't have 12 inch block walls. You know what I mean? This one was pushed to the inside so it's resting on block. There was nothing to support, but she just wasn't gonna accept that answer, so we literally attached it to the linole and slid it in there with these. I mean they looked like this in there when they were done. You know they look like this wire does right now Just looped, it did nothing. I mean, a guy knows what he's doing, like I say he's a chief building official for Cleveland right now.
Speaker 1:The guy that actually installed it he did did a great job, but this woman wouldn't shut up and eventually I just had to give in and I think that's like I'm the same way like I'm if I know I'm right, I'm not gonna I'm not accepting defeat, like I'm gonna keep going to prove to you that I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3:Have you ever considered you're wrong?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then I oh, absolutely, it's a genuine question.
Speaker 3:I know, I, I know I have that problem sometimes. He always and if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1:And and if I'm wrong I'll apologize to you, like that's. That's just how I am, but If this whole election thing, I'm not wrong. No yeah no, I, I don't something gookie about it.
Speaker 2:They know, you know. You know that the time you was talking about where the camera was Turned on the top of the corner of the building. I think I was at the dentist at that time.
Speaker 1:Oh, you better.
Speaker 3:You know what do you? Have you ever looked at the clock on the front of the um board of elections? It's stuck. It's stuck, and guess what time it's stuck at what? 420.
Speaker 2:Is that annoy you?
Speaker 3:it annoys me, but I don't smoke weed and stuff. I don't. I don't really drink hardly even that much, but that annoys the shit out of me.
Speaker 1:I mean like it's brought it to their attention.
Speaker 3:Oh, it's been there for seven years. Somebody did it on purpose.
Speaker 1:It's been there.
Speaker 3:Since I've had this place, that's a first. When I first got I looked out and it's like 420 and I'm like the hell, that's funny and it's never been corrected and I think somebody put it there on purpose. Yeah, I would assume yeah.
Speaker 2:Whoever did the damn camera, yeah, he must have bumped that camera why he was messing with that. No.
Speaker 1:It's kind of gross.
Speaker 3:I think, in my opinion it's gross. I know there's, I know pot supposed to be acceptable one of it, but it's, it's, it's gross, it's just gross. It shouldn't be on your board of elections.
Speaker 1:I don't, I don't a lot of things shouldn't be. Like they Over there I'm, that's a whole. They had me pissed off.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, that's clear. I can see that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just don't like that. Like I don't. That's not how it's supposed to work. They, they in. The problem is they do things so blatantly in front of the citizens and the citizens will still be like oh, jack Bradley's on them on the ballot, let's, I know that name, let's vote for them. The citizens don't pay attention to nothing. That goes on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not a big Jack Bradley fan.
Speaker 1:Like I, I'm not an I'm really not a none of them fan. Like I'm I'm I just I See each one of them's flaws and I see how one is like full of drama. This one's just turning into a mini Joe Biden.
Speaker 3:You know I just don't like that the city of Lorraine is being run by the guy who got every criminal in Lorraine out of Lorraine, you know, and it's just like he's just not what you need. I mean, you need, you need somebody that what I, for one. I've always said that I think Lorraine Could benefit from like about 12 years of good conservative. You know Politicians, you know that want to bring business and want to help business and and don't want to. I mean, everything they want to do in Lorraine is like programs they always want to give free.
Speaker 1:Like and I just yeah, that stuff.
Speaker 3:All that does, in my opinion, all that stuff does is give you just enough to survive, and then when somebody has just enough to survive, they just keep doing that because they're surviving. Yeah and it's horrible. It's not. It's not what you want.
Speaker 1:I don't know it's not, and then you have. So there's a place in Michigan Like citizens don't really pay attention to their rights as citizens, like when they vote. When they're complaining about somebody on Facebook, about an elected official, I'm like, okay, you have a right to recall them. Like, get your ass out there, get some signatures, get them out of office, like what. I don't live in the city of Lorraine, I live in Amherst. I I'm fighting the city of Lorraine over things that they're doing and I have the right to do that as a Rate payer not a taxpayer, but a rate payer.
Speaker 1:But me recalling somebody out of office, I can't do that because I don't live there not for the city but for the county, which is a lot right, yeah, but for the county I can, so I'm always explaining to them, like you can do, that there's a place in Michigan that just recalled every elected official and lock the doors and there, until they start over, the citizens don't pay attention to any of where's this? A city in Michigan somewhere. I just seen it on my news thing.
Speaker 3:I gotta check that out. Yeah, what did they? Who did they recall?
Speaker 1:a citizen's initiative group, which is like just a group of citizens, got enough signatures to recall every one of their elected officials and lock city hall door. They fired all of them, citizens, don't pay attention to that.
Speaker 3:Is that allowed? You could just do that. You have a right, absolutely, you do Absolutely didn't let Trump do it when he was trying to.
Speaker 1:But, you got, like Hillary Clinton and all of them, that there people are in it up, I ain't gonna, and then I'm dead and everything else.
Speaker 3:Yeah, did you hear about? Did you hear about the, the guy that used to run the Hillary Clinton Airport?
Speaker 1:yeah, and they found him shot in the head. Obama, didn't Obama just have somebody?
Speaker 2:Bill Clinton.
Speaker 1:Swimmer diet is Like that's your two for two now, guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it happens once or twice you go well, that's a coincidence. But there's so many now where you're like Well you know, you know, you gotta start thinking. Maybe they're telling the truth, yeah.
Speaker 1:Tick-tock away because they don't want people to know the truth.
Speaker 3:Well, what is that? Why did tick-tock me and me? I?
Speaker 1:Don't know, that was just fucked up. I don't get it.
Speaker 3:I don't understand. I mean, I'm saying exactly what I saw.
Speaker 1:I can say the sky is purple on Facebook and I'm getting 30 days. You should see my ban list. I literally wrote a letter to residents of Sheffield Village, put it on Facebook about letting them know hey, welcome. You know, here's a house. Karen Chauver is gonna act in your city. I'm letting you know and giving you a heads up of what you're in for. Did say not one cuss word, no, nothing. They hit me for 30 days for groups.
Speaker 3:No kidding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I can go on tick-tock and make videos or do whatever the hell I want to do, and nothing that's weird. So it's just opposite. I don't know why I would repost it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well, I know my friend Krista and Avon, like she, she won't that, she has been. I think she had something like 40 accounts at One time, total through so throughout Facebook, and she just gave up because I'm done, I'm not going on there, no more. Yeah, cuz they just bar her and ban her every time.
Speaker 1:And and I'll like, I'll literally get on my husband's page when I get suspended off mine. I Will, and I'll just use his page like he lets you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh my, I would you know what if. My wife got barred. There's no way in hell I'd let her on my and I would, and I would act like she was a criminal. I'm like you ain't touching my shit, you ain't.
Speaker 1:But it's crazy cuz he can get on there and he can. He can say some of the meanest shit about the president. You know what I mean, and they don't do nothing to him.
Speaker 3:So but as soon as I say anything, it's yeah but, president, that that president Biden, dude, that's a rough one man, and there's nobody that thinks that's okay.
Speaker 1:My mom, yes, there is there's. There's like 14,000 people in this Lorraine County that voted for that dumbass did?
Speaker 3:I don't think they, but I think that.
Speaker 1:Or was it those ballots?
Speaker 3:it could be that's possible, but I mean I just, don't think anybody think that's okay.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's people I know that are still voting and I know that oh, my neighbor, my neighbor who is actually like it was my Distant cousin or whatever. He will get on there and argue with me or post something. He is like he's, he voted for Joe Biden and I say I love you very much and I like I love fucking with you. But no, we got to. We got to change this shit.
Speaker 3:I lost a friend of mine well, not a, yeah, I guess I kind of lost a friend. I mean, I still consider him a friend, I do anything for him. That that tall Dave Dave, now he, he like guy. He blocked me on Facebook or no he.
Speaker 3:He took on front of me and I'm. I'm not like that. I don't go on Facebook and put stuff like that. The worst thing I've ever put on my personal Facebook is I have myself listed as a deplorable. When Hillary Clinton said we were deplorable, I Just listed myself as a deplorable. That's the worst thing I've ever done and I mean I'll have a few conversations with people, but I won't post stuff. It's not what I want to do. It's not. And owning a bar, it's not in your interest to do such a thing.
Speaker 1:No, you don't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know what I mean so, so I never have. But because he knows I'm like, I'm a conservative, he just, I think, just got, I think that's what it was, I guess because he stopped coming in, he doesn't talk to me, no more, nothing but how can a person logically think Anything that's happening in this world is fucking normal or great?
Speaker 1:What about that?
Speaker 2:that was a guy that's eating everybody.
Speaker 3:What the one in Haiti yeah, yeah what yeah, you didn't
Speaker 2:hear about that.
Speaker 3:No yeah, haiti. The Prime Minister of Haiti is now like they think he's an evacuated Haiti and Gangs have taken over and they the gang. What did he call him? Barbecue, saw, barbecue. Is that head leader in a gang is called barbecue. So he's eating people he eats his, his EET eats his enemy, enemies or whatever.
Speaker 1:See, and if Donald Trump was in office, he'd said let's just drop a bomb on him.
Speaker 3:We went in we went in and we removed our, our embassy out of there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like what see it. So people actually think this shit going on in this world is Normal and they and they support this shit like everything that we're working for For our children. It's gonna be gone and people actually think it's okay.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah like.
Speaker 1:I'd rather have somebody that talks shit on Twitter in the office and our world is running a lot smoother. If I was president, I'd be talking the same shit he was.
Speaker 3:That's where I disagree. I Want Reagan back. I like somebody who's a smooth talker and can tell you with it with a silver talk. I wish that he had a silver tongue, but I understand him. In construction and being in business my whole life, I mean. That's the type of person you dealt with most of the time.
Speaker 1:But he's also letting you know like, hey, this is serious, like you don't want somebody that's gonna sugarcoat. If they're getting ready, drop a bomb on us. You want to come out and be like, hey, we're gonna have to bomb these motherfuckers or they're gonna kill us.
Speaker 3:But see, I feel like if it's serious you don't, you put more of a serious tone to it and you don't do? I mean I, that's the one thing. I, that's my. I like Trump's policies. I definitely do. I voted for him.
Speaker 1:He's a businessman.
Speaker 3:I get that, but at the same time, I don't what I wish he would. If they would have banned him on Twitter a year sooner, he'd be president right now, and that's just how I feel, and that's that's ridiculous. I mean that you, that's that's him. He needs to gain self-control in that aspect and and he won't I mean I know he won't, but I wish he would because he would be Twice the leader if he could, because you get a lot more with honey than you do with, you know, salt.
Speaker 1:It's got to use to tell me that when I would go to council meetings he would always tell me, like Tia, don't do that. And it never worked. I still. But he used to tell me about the honey and the. That's funny.
Speaker 3:It's true, I mean it's a fact, I mean it's just the way it is. I mean you got, you can still have the same policies, you can still. There's other ways, like like I remember my attorney, my one attorney that was in Cleveland, ron Greenspan. He used to when I would say something we would be talking about doing this was business stuff, somebody owed me money or something, and he says it to me Like a thug, you know, like I mean he was an old Jew but he would go, he'd go, we're gonna punch him in the mouth or we're gonna, we're gonna, you know, I mean, sucker, punch him, we're gonna. I mean that's the kind of talk he would have and he would just do it verbally and he would do it with, well, you know, in the right finesse, finesse and context of it, and he was great at what he did. But that's that's what he needs to do is more, you know. I mean like, like, what did they say? Carry a big stick, walk, walk, what?
Speaker 2:is it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, what did he used to say walks off, then carry a big stick, or something like that, something like that I can't remember out and that and that's what he needs to do. I mean, if he would have done that, he'd be double the leader For us because he'd achieve more.
Speaker 1:So do you think he'll be president coming up?
Speaker 3:I do. I don't think there's any way anybody could hold him back at this point. I don't think that.
Speaker 3:Hillary gets haves her way, or he might end up like the, the chef that was swimming in Obama's water, or the the problem with that is that If he didn't get, if he's alive at the election, once the election, once the inauguration happens, and then once he's a, once he's inaugurated, the key is to get a shitty vice president. You know what I mean? He'd be that nobody wants, because if you can do that, then they'll let them live, because they don't want to get the worst of the you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the play I would do. Who do you think should be like if you watched all of those candidates? Um, who do you think he should pick if he picks one of them? Please don't tell me that fat porky guy, because I can't stand him.
Speaker 3:Chris Christie. I hate that motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Fucking.
Speaker 3:No, I don't. I don't think any of them are out there that I would want somebody shitty like I would want, really shitty like I Would want, like I would want like somebody you would. I'd want like Glen Beck. You know that way. They just won't that. You know they're gonna let me live. They're gonna put Glenn Beck in charge. You know what I mean. That's what I would do. I would be that way.
Speaker 1:I don't know, because they think Joe Biden's normal and he's dumber than they don't nobody thinks that.
Speaker 3:Nobody, even the people voting for him, can see it. There's nobody that thinks he's doing a good job. I don't believe that. And and and. When they go to bed at night, they're thinking to themselves Did he do something they're looking for him to do in? In fact, they will report on the news if they a portion of anything he does do. Good, like you know he he was able to handle a site of steps. You know what I mean, or something I mean. I mean it's literally that they nobody thinks he's doing a good job.
Speaker 1:I can't even laugh at him for for falling upstairs, because I've done it like a million times.
Speaker 3:But not as the president in the United States.
Speaker 1:No, but I mean the first time. Okay, shit happens like that was an accident, but isn't it like his third or fourth time?
Speaker 3:away more than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was fell up the steps, fell down the steps.
Speaker 1:Fucking walk to a different room and he does get smacked with the door the other day or something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and every time he leaves that he leaves, he's just like he does look like a Roomba.
Speaker 2:Like somebody said, he looks like a Roomba every time he leaves you know what, like I said this before on here, I was like put politics aside. If that was somebody in your family, wouldn't you just pull them out of there, be like come on, it's, it's always oh yes, they like I Probably would a baker act them, which is like you can take control and but the problem is nobody wants Kamala.
Speaker 3:See, he's, he's got the smart play, he's got Kamala. Nobody wants that bitch in charge, nobody, nobody. They're like let the old man trip, fuck it as long as come on. I mean, and the thing is, is Kamala was the big vote forgetter for him, if he at the end of the day, that's where he got it, but why like how?
Speaker 3:because my mother's a lesbian and and she's pretty liberal as a whole and that, just like the idea of Kamala being the vice president and somebody that she thought would she could relate to, and that's where they got her vote. I mean they did. I mean now she's pissed that they got her vote.
Speaker 1:Oh, I have a. I have a gay aunt and I'll be damn. She would be like fuck that bitch. No way are we voting for her, yep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but my mom wasn't that way. My mom was like that was, and there was lots of people like there, lots of women, you got to remember. Most people aren't paying attention to politics, but they do see a woman that's of color and they did, and they do it and I did.
Speaker 3:You know that's just like Obama. Obama was a shitty president. He didn't do anything great Nothing. He talked good, he had a silver tongue, but he was a shitty president and his and when he was running he had shitty ideas. I mean, everything was shitty and I'm going everything. He's talking about his shit. It's garbage. He said it nicely, but it's garbage, I mean it. You, they've tried these things, you know. I mean, everybody's tried all these things before in different countries. And we're getting there. You know, like it, like it gets, it gets to a point where they, where they In a socialist society when nobody wants to work, nobody has a reason to work, everybody gets the same. Well, eventually what happens is you start to get. You know things have to go up because there's nobody earning, nobody's making, nobody's competing, nobody's, and it's just, eventually it just, it gets you there, to that spot unless you're um illegal, illegal whatever, and you get $50,000 on a credit card, cell phone bills, all of that shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, free medical free.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I told my mom.
Speaker 3:I told my mom she should just go to Mexico and just come across the border Buck retirement, she'll get away more money.
Speaker 1:The credit report goes down. If she, if anybody's, you just come back as a whole new person. I don't, I don't know my social security number.
Speaker 3:What was it? That's what I said too. Yeah, I don't know I don't know nothing, but Gito brought up a good point. That's the day they'll change it, the day you do it, I feel like oh fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that might be my luck. Yeah, that might really be my luck. That ended yesterday. Yeah, right yeah damn it. Well then I'd probably argue to make him extend it longer, or try.
Speaker 3:I mean it's just, it really is. It's, it's bizarre, but I mean that people don't see it, though. People don't pay attention to politics the way they did and you have people voting that. I mean you talk about your 18 to like, say, 25. Those people have no clue. Even yourself, you know, at 18 to 25, you pray, didn't give a shit.
Speaker 1:Well, and also so a lot of people who have felonies on their records or they're convicted felons think they can't vote and they can vote. When I was doing the charter, you know how many felons I registered to vote that's the charter.
Speaker 1:You brought that up a few times a couple years ago, if you remember, I put a, got signatures to put a charter on the ballot. The city of Lorraine is a um Statue. Statutory city means they're governed by the Ohio revised code. Well, if you make them a charter, it takes away all their power and it gives it back to the citizens because they can't put anything on the. Everything that they do has to go on the ballot, like it's. The city of alleria is a charter. The city of Oberlin's a charter. You don't see shit happen in like it's happening in Lorraine there, do you? There's only like four cities in the state of Ohio that are statutory cities. Um, Lorraine, can't know high oh, and a couple more north, but everybody else has moved to a charter. They won't allow it. They stacked the deck on me. I had, we had scotty. This is how I met scotty. Um, I was getting signatures. I got enough signatures put on the ballot. Scotty had the pizza shop On. I think it's eight street or seven street or whatever eight yeah.
Speaker 1:He didn't even know me and he gave me a shot and said here, use my pizza shop, set up your, set up your meetings. Everything provided pizza, all of it for everybody. We got a slate together of people we wanted to be on the charter. Um, and them assholes stacked the deck and the state of the state of Ohio had a opinion that they didn't want elected officials to be on a charter. How can you hold two separate positions? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:A charter is a government for the people and by the people, like we pick who. We went on there. So then they stacked the deck. I passed out slates to citizens. Talk to citizens, had so many meetings about this. The citizens still they would bitch to me about my water bills going up. They're doing this at city hall. The dumb asses still went and voted for those people. So they got put on the charter Because they don't pay attention and they don't care. They don't care unless it's something that happens to them. Then they bitch about it and then they they just go on about their business until it Happens again. Nobody wants to do nothing.
Speaker 3:Well, they're scared that nothing could get done. That that's part of it. That's the fear that they use on the other end is that nothing could get done, and that's how they.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Yeah, so the, so, the whole. The whole thing that's been going around for years is you can't fight city hall and win. That's what the citizens think of Lorraine. Yeah, yes, and you can fight city hall and win.
Speaker 3:You absolutely can who who's with on it.
Speaker 1:I ain't seen nobody do it their water lawsuit is going to do it.
Speaker 3:They ain't done it yet.
Speaker 1:We're still in court.
Speaker 3:Just wait, just wait.
Speaker 1:But that was an attempt. That was an attempt. We had them and they still voted those people. So then we had to get it all voted back down and that I'm like, why should I help people if they're not going to pay attention and they're not going to make an effort? I don't even live here and I'm trying to help you guys going around. I had four, maybe five people that helped me get signatures. Mind you, we had to get quite a few, like a couple thousand, signatures to get this on the ballot. You know hard that is in the middle of a pandemic. So if I'm doing this, I'm doing it to show you, yes, you can. So nobody wanted to help.
Speaker 1:Oh, you lead a horse to water but I like to push their face in it. Make them drink. If I have to, I will.
Speaker 3:See, that's a valuable lesson that I've learned my early on in life. You can't make people do anything they don't want to do.
Speaker 1:I know, but I can't control people.
Speaker 2:So when, when she says statutory that's what was like rape, it is to the citizens, I mean it kind of is. I was like where'd you get that word?
Speaker 1:That Lake Erie Highball. It cost you a million dollars to drink that shit.
Speaker 2:Oh, you know what was another one that kind of gets swept under the rug too. Remember the brick, black asphalt on Broadway.
Speaker 3:What happened?
Speaker 2:All the way down Broadway. They fucking put this asphalt and then they had this brick. Overlay that, like they. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit didn't last a year and they paid crazy money for that. Whoever approved that? If he's still in there.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, the auditor just went to Sheffield Village, she just quit. Karen Chauver just quit and went to. Her resignation letter was effective March, something I quit.
Speaker 3:She said I quit.
Speaker 1:She said I'm resigning, like basically I quit, no explanation, no nothing. And I'm like I thought it was Christmas, like yeah, this bitch is gone.
Speaker 3:She don't even have a degree, they can't even figure out a Careful what you wish for, though, but that's an elective position, correct?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is. So now maybe the citizens will start seeing like paying attention or whatever.
Speaker 3:We tried to get. Years ago, we tried to get Higginbotham in there, but she lost yeah.
Speaker 1:I think Jesse Tower should have been mayor and people argue with me about it and some support what I just she ran for our charter and she is the most genuine person that she should have been mayor.
Speaker 3:So how the fuck that happened that Jack got picked over her, but Because he's gotten half a Lorraine out of jail, or their parents or their parents. He got my dad out of jail. My dad made his career. You know that right.
Speaker 1:Your dad made Jack's career.
Speaker 3:Jack's big break was my dad and his brother on a murder case on 28th Street in 79. That was how was that the dentist?
Speaker 2:That was.
Speaker 1:You must have got a lot of cavities, not no more. So I've had people come to me and tell me stories about Jack Bradley, and personally I would never hire somebody like Jack. They're high-priced bullshitters, that's all they are Like. That's what he was. Because of the stories that I heard.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I'm in trouble from going to jail. I want Jack Bradley. I mean, if I'm going to go to prison, I want Jack Bradley. Period, that's all there is to it. I don't know, I don't want to hire, but if I get caught shooting somebody, I want Jack Bradley.
Speaker 1:I just Some people like the stories I've heard about him, like him being their attorneys and they got the shittiest deal or something illegal happened and he just and he knew he was going to be mayor six months before he was mayor. I don't know how the hell that happened, like people have told me. A lot of people have told me about that.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, because the other guy took the deal for the sewers or whatever, right Like he'd go to Chicago with the garbage truck or whatever.
Speaker 1:Oh, the trash bin. No, he's back in Avon.
Speaker 3:Oh, is he now? Yeah, the old mayor, he's back in Avon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how the hell did that even skate past.
Speaker 3:That's bullshit.
Speaker 1:That would have been the first red flag to me as a citizen if I lived here.
Speaker 3:He signs a deal for your bills to go up and then goes.
Speaker 1:Alright, I'm going to work for that company. They got the money to pay me now and people still defend him. People defend that bullshit Like oh, he's such a great guy.
Speaker 2:That's not a great guy. Chase Rittenauer. Chase Rittenauer was his name, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he owns like the golf course or something. There's like a crossroom lighthouse village.
Speaker 3:Well, his parents owned coalmire, sporting goods right, isn't that who that is?
Speaker 1:I thought they owned. There was like an old golf bar. That's still the buildings just run down. It's a crossroom lighthouse village over there.
Speaker 3:They may, but originally that's coalmire sporting goods. That was like they did all the like, like that's where you got your high school jacket or your jerseys or all that stuff. I mean, that's all your equipment. All that came from coalmires, which was right up here on 57. And that was, I believe that's who that was originally.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a dun. Well, it wasn't a dunn, or after that, or something.
Speaker 3:No, I don't know. Now it's old world out, or something Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:Same place I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:Is there an old golf bar that is not up and running? It's, but the building's still there On 58. Yeah, what's it called?
Speaker 2:I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1:Golden something?
Speaker 3:Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh You're talking about Did they own that?
Speaker 1:Emerald Valley. Did they own Emerald Valley? Yes, I've heard that a million times that he owned.
Speaker 3:Emerald Valley.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that, but anyways, his ass wouldn't have been going to Chicago. If I Like that, how can you not, as a citizen, question that?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that was no joke.
Speaker 1:And where has the damn FBI been? They busted the fat guy in Cleveland, the Jimmy DeMora shit and his little bag men, but how is Lorraine still not busted yet?
Speaker 3:DeMora was a little bigger than that, did you see?
Speaker 1:the way that guy was living. Oh, my God yeah yeah, but listen I Like if they would have.
Speaker 3:just DeMora was living, living.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think there's there's a few of them living like that too.
Speaker 3:No, not like that, not like DeMora. Demora was living on like 25 acres with 6,000 square feet and flying private jets and getting hookers and gambling all weekend in Vegas.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, but I think these assholes are just good at covering it. What'd you say?
Speaker 3:He was at the dentist. Yeah, I was at the dentist. His dentist was in Vegas. I had to go.
Speaker 1:What'd you do? Break a tooth? I broke a tooth, I had to fly the way I did, well, it sounds like you broke like four or five of them, as much as you've been there in the last six months.
Speaker 3:He's a very clean person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like that. I gotta go Monday too. What's going on Monday? Yeah, I don't know. We'll have to see.
Speaker 1:It's hard telling here, right, I'll be at the dentist.
Speaker 3:No, none of them have DeMora. Demora was next level. Demora was actually doing backwood deals where, like they were actually kicking back. He was giving out contracts and they were kicking money back.
Speaker 1:But he flaunted it more right. That's what got him caught. He flaunted it. That's where the problem is so here, that's the difference between here and there. They're not flaunting it as much, they're just doing their criminal shit open in the public, like we don't give a fuck if you see us or not. Nobody's going to touch us.
Speaker 3:That's a shit deal for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they may not be flaunting like that guy did, but they are just as bad, but you know.
Speaker 3:I'm a person I love to believe that people are good people and I'm just gonna, I do, I love to believe it. So then when I when I with that right, you know I mean it was shitty, I was bad, but I imagine that as it went down, I imagine that it was like I kind of always imagined that it was like you know. You know he worked out the deal, thinking it was for the city to help them out and all this to that effect. And then, you know, he heard about the position after everything was done and then took that job because it was such a good opportunity for him and his family.
Speaker 3:I hate to think that he said oh, if you'll give me this job, if I Make sure you get that contract buck those contracts up and get, because at the time I owned an apartment building in Lorraine at the time and at the time I would buy a dumpster and it was 80 bucks a month. My water bill was 60. You know what I mean. And then that was it. I was done at the apartments and then all of a sudden that happened. I couldn't have a dumpster, no more. I had my own garbage service and it all went attached to the water bill. And then all of a sudden it was. It was five times the amount it was.
Speaker 1:And I like see where you're coming from, that you want to believe there is good in everybody, but I've never seen anything good from any of them and I've done like, so I don't, I don't have that expectation, like, oh, maybe they have a good heart or a good no.
Speaker 3:Well, not every. I'm not saying a good heart, but I just think that most people aren't. I don't think that I hope that that doesn't happen. As much as that. I mean not constant, I mean it's going to happen. There's going to be shitty people, but I like to believe that there's a little more that are out there that are trying their best. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but look what they did to Mr Fligner. Don't like, for instance, what they're doing. Mr Fligner has been invested in the city of Lorraine for longer than I've been alive. You know what I mean. I mean they're just leaving that shit-hole St Joe's right there, just completely looking like it is, and now they're going to build a homeless community right by him after he asked them not to. That's doing shit on purpose and being a petty fucker, don't you think?
Speaker 3:Well, I don't agree with any homeless. I told you that right at the beginning of the interview. I'm not into that whole gig.
Speaker 1:No, because to me, if you can stand on the side of the street and hold a sign that says I need $2 or I need gas money, then you can stand in McDonald's and say how can I take your order?
Speaker 3:Well, I just don't believe they're going to drop that in the streets. That's my opinion. They'll go figure it out. I mean the fear is that they'll steal. The fear is that they'll steal from you to get their money. That's why people want to put homeless shelters if they're being, it's not because they're great people and they want to help out the homeless. They just don't want homeless people with no money and no way to make ends meet and steal in their fucking gutters they want to put where they don't live.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they don't want them in their neighborhood.
Speaker 2:You can't go downtown Amherst and have them right there.
Speaker 3:No, that would never happen. No, they're not going to do that.
Speaker 2:That's what we should do.
Speaker 1:Hey, that's your right, but you know that is your right as a citizen. For you to do that, you could do that, but they already made a deal because they threatened to sue the city if they didn't approve it. What deal was promised to where you have to actually threaten the city that if you don't pass this ordinance?
Speaker 3:Well, how many homeless people do you think there are in Lorraine?
Speaker 1:10 cities full.
Speaker 3:But I mean, how many is that?
Speaker 1:I just evicted what 52 of them from Bruce Towers.
Speaker 3:From Bruce Towers 52. And then 10th City. How many figures there.
Speaker 1:Lots of them.
Speaker 3:I mean a number. Give me a number yes, 250.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say a little more 3.
Speaker 3:3?.
Speaker 1:I'm going to say 3.
Speaker 3:3? That sounds right to me. So even if we're low on our number, say there's 500. Say there's 500 people homeless in it. How much money are we going to spend for this homeless community center that's going to go in here?
Speaker 1:We're supposedly not paying any of it.
Speaker 3:But how much money is going towards?
Speaker 1:it? I think that would be a question for Lorraine Ritchie. I would say probably 20 million.
Speaker 3:You think 20 million is the best way to help 500 people. That's the best way to build the building.
Speaker 1:No, I thought you meant how much was the building. I apologize. How much they are spending on the building?
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Oh, I think it's something like that.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying. I could be wrong. So you're going to help 500 people with 20 million, 20 million you could do a lot more for those people, yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't have to put it right on downtown Broadway.
Speaker 3:Either way. For 20 million. You don't have to do it For one. For 500 people you could take 20 million and build some better programs for them. That would actually help. You could use that money to actually bring a factory or company here that could employ those people so that they actually could just pay their own bills. You could there's a million different things you could do. You could take a couple old buildings that are in the city and kind of convert them just a little bit temporarily while you use that money to get. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:No, nothing may do make sense.
Speaker 3:If you were in business and you were going to spend 20 million for 500 employees for a temporary fix. Because, let's face it, that's what a homeless shelter is it's a temporary fix.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:You would just never do it as a businessman. You'd go. There's no way in hell. I'm doing that. I'm not doing it. That's not happening.
Speaker 1:But the city doesn't.
Speaker 2:That's going to be a constant bleed.
Speaker 3:Right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, because that's 20 million. And then how much is going to cost to run it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and they're supposed to have cops and everything on there. We already ain't got enough cops nowhere, so now you want to hire Lorraine Pleas Department to come and do it, and I think the chief already has enough on his plate dealing with stuff like he's trying to make sure our streets are safe and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3:Who is our chief now?
Speaker 1:Chief McCann.
Speaker 3:McCann, I haven't actually met him. Last chief I met was Riviera.
Speaker 1:I used to wait on him at Bob Evans years ago.
Speaker 3:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Selling his wife? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:And then the last one I knew he was like my dad knew him. My dad did too. Yeah, he was a good dude. So I don't know nothing about McCann and I don't go into Lorraine very often anymore.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I stay out of it for the most part. Not that I have anything against it, I just this is where I go to from here and home A straight stretch.
Speaker 1:You have like a path. That's all I do. It's horrible. I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's all I do and I don't get too involved in stuff.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I just I would like to have one of them. City officials appear, the ones that's for the thing that's printed From Paul.
Speaker 3:Davis over here, Good luck.
Speaker 1:I actually thought about setting a public record request for their cell phone records. What really sucked about that is when he Do it and then if they know they're going to tell me no, and then I'm going to sue him for it when his face popped up on the news.
Speaker 3:I'm like, oh shit, and he, he's a regular.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That is a drinker, but for lunch? For lunch, I don't think I've ever seen him drink. He always comes and picks up and I.
Speaker 1:So I heard this Provenza used to be the law director and then I heard the story behind it and all of that stuff and I'm like, as a law director, why the hell would you walk into a bar with those ballots and you took, you passed the bar, all of this stuff? You, you had to get it be elected to be the law director. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3:Well, you know he was fired from White's office too. He was in the prosecutor's office when I think it was what is it? Greg White or whatever that used to be the prosecutor years ago. He got fired from there too, in the prosecutor's office.
Speaker 1:So he's just a natural born fuck up.
Speaker 3:It's always drinking. And yeah, it's always drinking and shady dealing. He's just a net. Yeah, it's always drinking and shady dealings always. Yeah, and in fact he probably was in an Uber. They said his car was broke down. It's probably he doesn't have a license, if I had to guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but why couldn't the Uber pick him up across the?
Speaker 3:street. There's no reason for that.
Speaker 1:None, and he said that he put the bags over them to protect them from the weather. Your happy ass walked from a board of elections over here.
Speaker 3:But not only that. I don't know if you understand that, conn. I try to make it out. Nobody seems to want to pick that part of the story up, which to me, the bags, no, no, no. Which to me is the bigger part of the story. He doesn't walk across the street from the board of elections, he walks from way down there and then comes down the street. In fact, I took a picture, I'll show you.
Speaker 1:So how did he have you have to backtrack this for me, because?
Speaker 3:I'll show you. I got a map picture right here that'll show you the path, the route he took.
Speaker 1:He's going where I think he's going, and these people are saying that this is not illegal.
Speaker 3:So if you look at this here, in this picture, that's Garg, that's, that is the board of elections.
Speaker 1:And the Gargis Hall. This is Madhouse.
Speaker 3:And that's Gargis Hall. That's the path he took to come here. It's a very awkward.
Speaker 1:So he he's cause he's doing some illegal shit.
Speaker 3:He's right, it's that's where it looked the most shady. That to me is and that's the part they don't want to bring up. Nobody brings that up. They ignore it.
Speaker 1:So in my opinion I'm going to say in my opinion for legal reasons, so they can't try to sue me.
Speaker 2:Allegedly, allegedly.
Speaker 1:No, I'm saying in my opinion, cause this is my opinion that's some crackhead shit To walk. That means you were up to no good to walk from a behind, like with that little building it looks like a little gargoyle hall. Come around this way.
Speaker 3:That's the old window-turning place that was there?
Speaker 1:Yeah right, and the only thing that's supposed to be in Gargoyle Hall is provisional ballots that have been filled out.
Speaker 3:I don't know if all the equipment stored there would make sense that they store it there. It is.
Speaker 1:It is stored there when it's not election time. But when it's election time after everything comes out, those provisional's go in that room and that's where they count. They don't count at the board of elections.
Speaker 3:No, they count there Right.
Speaker 1:They count, yeah, so the only thing that's supposed to be in that room was filled out ballots.
Speaker 3:But I think that he would have picked his equipment up from back there. I think he would have. Honestly, I don't think they have equipment.
Speaker 1:He ain't have no equipment in his bag.
Speaker 3:I know you keep saying that but I'm just giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1:Pull up, I know, that's all I'm doing. But I'm coming in to have your back and tell you no, your heart is too good. Your heart is too good, he's a fucking crook, in my opinion.
Speaker 3:He looks like a bum, which shocked me, cause when Scotty asked me, I said he looks like a bum, dude. I mean he looks like a bum. He goes well, go see who it is, and I'm just like okay, and I go and look the crackle. Holy shit, that's Provenza.
Speaker 1:And what did he say when you said that?
Speaker 3:He goes, get the fuck out of here. He was shocked.
Speaker 1:Now let's see if the prosecutor's office prosecutes them.
Speaker 3:We'll see. The sheriffs are still on it. I know that They've reached out to me.
Speaker 1:Officer, vassant Cause I. So there's like a when you, when you want to hold them accountable, there's a chain of command you have to do right. So it's just like a Walmart you go to a supervisor, whatever. I took those pictures to the sheriff's department. I said I want to follow complaint cause I'm going to sue their ass for the selection and I the officer knew I meant what I said. So he tells me oh well, I got my coat smells like beer cause I got in the dumpster and got him out and I'm like and I'm thinking then when I watch the thing at home, I'm like nobody reported that Everybody's not.
Speaker 3:nobody said anything about that, and I'll tell you why Because we are a firm believer that that that, whoever that was, we can't prove for one. There's no proof that that's him. There's no. We can't tell that that's him. Who that's going in the dumpster? That puts that in a dumpster? We can't make out a face. You can't make out anything.
Speaker 3:They got enough food and took shit to be able to he does have a black hoodie on, and we and we went in the dumpster immediately and Gido. The only thing Gido found and at the time we had just got our food delivery so what had happened was there was a layer of flat cardboard in there.
Speaker 1:So there was really. It was normally put yeah at the bottom.
Speaker 3:Well, no, yeah, it just, it just was there. It just happened to be there. All the garbage bags were covered and everything, and there was just this flat layer of, and the only thing there was, was it a quarter miller. No, not a quarter A regular miller bottle.
Speaker 1:It was just one miller bottle sitting there, so so the theory of them being in the dumpster, from what I was under the impression, is not accurate.
Speaker 3:There's no proof of it at all. And we went in there and we couldn't find anything. No, in there. We went in there and looked for it. We couldn't find anything other than that quarter miller that was.
Speaker 1:So how many of those bags did he put in the black bags? Each black bag.
Speaker 3:Three, no three. He put three into a bag and then he had one that wasn't.
Speaker 1:But he struggled his whole way over here to carry them and then put three in a bag. And you know, you only carry a black bag with one hand. How did he struggle? And then he wasn't struggling anymore.
Speaker 3:He was struggling going into the car but he didn't carry them over here. The younger gentleman that brought them over, that walked over here with them, carried them over.
Speaker 1:We don't know who that is.
Speaker 3:I'm sure that Paul Davis does, but we haven't ever heard of that who he is.
Speaker 1:Paul Adams yeah. Yeah, Paul Adams he ain't, he, ain't, yeah, but that's the only one that would know.
Speaker 3:I mean, we have him on video putting, brought him in, but I don't know who that is. He's a younger guy, looks physically fit and but he had trouble when he carried them out in the garbage bag because they're square bags. It's not like he grabbed it by, like you say, by one side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're like. He was holding his hand under it like this it's just an oversized bank bag that has the zipper on it when you go into a bank and you're like so when you make deposits or drops. I don't know if you have like a chase bag. It was just an oversized one of those?
Speaker 3:No, it's bigger than that.
Speaker 2:It's more like a pizza bag.
Speaker 1:You know what a pizza bag is I know I'm saying it's yeah, it's very, it's like a beach bag size.
Speaker 3:It's like a big yeah, yes, like a bigger than a beach bag.
Speaker 1:But it's designed like a bank bag because it has the zipper on it. The inside of it is water. That bag is supposed to be waterproof everything.
Speaker 3:Is that true? It's supposed to be waterproof.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's my question. So that's my question why the hell did?
Speaker 3:you walk. That makes it even more shady. I get a lie.
Speaker 1:That makes it pretty shady, so that's my question, like, why did you walk from all the way over there, not protect them, if you think they need to protect it?
Speaker 3:That whole path, so that I'm showing you and then come here and put them in black bags.
Speaker 1:For what?
Speaker 3:To protect them.
Speaker 2:That makes no sense.
Speaker 1:Cause either he is a dumb ass or those people need to be fired because they were it was to hide them and I can guarantee you was to hide them.
Speaker 3:And the reason I can guarantee that is cause I watched him do it and I watched him with my own eyes as he did it. He stuffed them in the garbage bags. He couldn't get the fourth one in there, so he sat in the booth and put his coat over it. So it was to hide them. There was no question he was hiding.
Speaker 3:But you're already caught and in my opinion he is. I mean, he was hoping somebody else didn't come in here. He probably just thought it was a local, Like I was telling him this morning. I mean, if it was, if I was Provenza's buddy and you showed up over here, that's different. I mean you don't go to some random place, you don't know anybody.
Speaker 1:I think you're gonna pull this shit off. No, with big ass bags, that's a provisional balance.
Speaker 2:In the middle of an election Right ass yellow.
Speaker 1:In the middle, and there was a green one in there too.
Speaker 3:I've seen a green one.
Speaker 1:So, and each color of those bags means something.
Speaker 3:And what do they mean? Do you know?
Speaker 1:So I haven't got the like actual answer to that. So I didn't want to like say cause I don't want to, because I have to know for sure what it meant.
Speaker 3:but oh, you gotta keep me abreast, cause I have to know what it is I want to know, so you and I forgot where I was going with this.
Speaker 2:The colors of the bags.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but what were you saying? I feel like I'm having a blonde moment.
Speaker 2:You know, I got memory problem and I have to take memory pills but I keep forgetting the table.
Speaker 1:He's the donag.
Speaker 3:So, but yeah, what we were talking about was him hiding them in the bag and then covering it up with the jacket.
Speaker 1:He was already busted, like he was already here.
Speaker 2:But he didn't know he was busted.
Speaker 1:He only put him in the bag after he, when he was paying his tab. Like you're leaving, like you're making more, you're making yourself more obvious. Because you're putting him in a bag now Like he didn't use his brain. If he is a criminal, he is a dumb ass criminal. That should be on cops.
Speaker 3:Well, clearly, cause he's gotten in trouble enough times. I mean it's not like it's. I mean this is a guy that has never learned his lessons.
Speaker 1:So what is his record, though? Is it just drinking? Is there drugs involved? Is there?
Speaker 3:As far as I know, it's just been drinking. I think it's always been alcohol, so he has a drinking problem. Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I'd like to get him drunk and have him spill it. I might pay for his drinks the whole night.
Speaker 3:I don't know where he hangs out. You know what? We could all cross street, Listen, listen listen they gotta be here. I can promise that.
Speaker 1:This will go on all over air. Somebody will tell him what I'm saying. Call me buddy.
Speaker 3:I got, you I got you.
Speaker 1:We need to have a talk Right.
Speaker 3:She's gonna be like Aaron Brockovich. Yeah, she's gonna go with like the, with the short shirt and all that oh no. And vodka.
Speaker 2:Ha ha, ha ha. Was it a Miller light that was at the garbage gate? Yeah, miller light.
Speaker 1:It must be what. What did he drink that day?
Speaker 3:He had a tall Columbus.
Speaker 1:Oh well, when you want a Columbus, just call me Right. We're gonna find out the truth one way or another.
Speaker 3:I mean I don't. Yeah, I mean it wouldn't hurt to find it out.
Speaker 2:You guys can find out Monday I have a Dennis boy. Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha, he's Ha ha ha, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 3:He's hard to deal with, yeah.
Speaker 2:Ha ha ha. I totally. I don't know nothing about nothing what you guys talking about.
Speaker 3:He was normal until his first toothache. Yeah, ha, ha, ha ha.
Speaker 2:Ha, ha, ha ha. After that I got all kinds of alibi.
Speaker 3:Then he got kind of crazy Right there. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I'm just, I'm interested, I'd like to know more about it. I'm curious.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's not over.
Speaker 3:This charter thing is very interesting to me. I liked the. I didn't. You know what I'm. I guess I'm ashamed on me. I didn't even know anything about this. I had no clue about this.
Speaker 1:So we're one of only three cities in Lorraine that does it that way One of four in the state of Ohio In the state of Ohio. That is still a statutory city.
Speaker 3:And how many? How common is it in other states?
Speaker 1:It's, it's it's actually. I don't know about other states, but Ohio it's pretty good, it's pretty good, but the only thing is is the city of Lorraine brought in Gary Hunter, I believe, was his name. He's supposed to write cities, charters for cities. He couldn't tell us head from a hole in the ground or ass, or however you say that shit, Like he was just dumb. They paid $25,000 when we we were going to offer them a charter after we got everybody on the ballot. We already had one in order, so they just paid $25,000 to protect their power. And I'm like this is exactly what's happening. You have Jack Bradley, who's a mayor, Karen Shover, Joel Arandondo.
Speaker 3:Well, Karen's gone now, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but this was during the charter. You had both Arandondo brothers on on the charter, like that was absolutely stupid. So everybody they had, they just paid the $25,000 to write a charter to protect their power. So it had to get voted down.
Speaker 3:So okay, Explain a charter to me, Something I don't understand. I mean, I guess you did a little bit, but what? How does it take the power out of their hands?
Speaker 1:So the city of Illyria, for instance, when they want to change something or write an ordinance, you get like, I think, seven or 10 years you get to the charter gets to come back and meet and you can do things. But you can also petition to put something onto the ballot to have a charter amendment which is like an ordinance. But you want to amend an ordinance, correct.
Speaker 3:So is it like? Is it like an executive board Basically? Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:It's either a city manager or a mayor, like so that's so, it's not. Everything is completely different. Like they all the shit they do and like with the COVID money and all of that that they did they wouldn't be able to do any of that with the charter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, what happened with that? Jim Andrews is all pissed off about that Not getting any help out down there. I wanted to talk to him, oh.
Speaker 1:I don't know where how the hell these people blew through all this money. Their scoring matrix system for businesses absolutely sucked.
Speaker 3:I need to. I don't know anything except for what I've heard, but I've heard that if you were friends with the right people, you were more likely to get the money. Oh yeah, that's what I've heard, and I mean I don't know enough about it, but I've heard it from enough people that it sounds true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Rock Town Music Academy. If you know the Rock Town Music Hall, that's down there.
Speaker 3:No, I never heard of it. What is this?
Speaker 1:It's a like it's a Rock Town. Jack Bradley's daughter owns it. It's a like she helps them, like it's them ready to do talent shows and it's a performance art thing. That's what Lorraine needs.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, they need things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they weren't open, they weren't even in business and they got COVID money. Everybody's home was you got you had people coming out of the woodwork saying they were nurses and you're looking at them like you are not a fucking nurse.
Speaker 3:A nurse. What do you mean?
Speaker 1:Like they got COVID, COVID, extra COVID money. Like residents residents who claimed that they had businesses.
Speaker 2:All that PPP.
Speaker 3:That's the PPP also, but but that has federal that had nothing to do with the city.
Speaker 1:It had? Yeah, it did, because they filed their, their initial petition, their initial application, not PPE.
Speaker 3:Ppe money was all federal I was told.
Speaker 1:No, I was told that it was not all federal, that some of it like.
Speaker 3:PPE specifically, was federal. It was just based on payroll. I'm gonna have to Google that you had to go on your payroll. I did it. I did it myself, no you're, that's the pan.
Speaker 1:No, that there's something different then. Yeah, it's not PPE, it's something else, it's gotta be something different, but there's a lot of businesses that weren't even open that got money from the city of Lorraine.
Speaker 3:Oh, there was if you were to put in that effort and the work and, and like, I think, that Walter that owns that gym over there no, I think he cleaned house over the pan.
Speaker 1:So did the damn church, the one church cleaned house. Like I was looking cause you. You can ask for all of those as the public records, like who got money, all of the accounts and all of that, like everything. I'm looking at this list, like how did you pay them on the first round and then gave them another payment on the second round and then on top of that you want to have a special call meeting to give them another third payment for for a funeral home. Like there's a funeral, a Robinson Brown maybe, I think is the name of it.
Speaker 3:See, I don't understand how a funeral home should have got any kind of money during the pandemic, because for one, they, they, they should have been, business should have been booming for them. I mean it's a shitty thing to say, but I mean I, I mean I, I said it, I mean, I mean it, I mean I, I, I mean right, everybody's dropping dead. Knock on wood, everybody's dropping dead.
Speaker 1:These people seem to be in business, but you better drop, you better knock on wood right now.
Speaker 3:Why.
Speaker 1:Because I believe in that shit.
Speaker 3:Like knock on wood. That means you don't want something to happen. I'm just saying the truth. I mean I just that's business is good, but it is, but it is. That doesn't make sense. The business is good, you don't have a lot of them don't make sense.
Speaker 1:A lot of them that makes no sense to me.
Speaker 3:They should have made more money than ever, right?
Speaker 2:I think that a lot of that should be like there's no accountability for none of that money and they wouldn't allow anybody in there, and they wouldn't allow anybody in the funeral home either.
Speaker 1:But then when Broadway Marys tried to get something, there was like a huge fucking fight and it's like you can give these people a quarter of a million dollars. She's asking for $20,000 and you're making your fight for her life. For that that's I mean their scoring ever get any money. Um, I don't. I honestly I don't remember. I think she got like a little bit. Don't quote me, this is a question you'd have to ask scottie, because scottie would probably know.
Speaker 3:But we have. We have another mutual friend, keith marge.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, with the, the christmas tree, he said he was my brother's best friend. So I know him real well.
Speaker 3:But yeah, we have another mutual friend. He's the one who actually tells me more about broadway mary, he, he was more involved.
Speaker 1:He was an advocate for her, like a very big advocate for her. I do remember that. But I don't remember if she got, like how much she got, or I don't remember any of that. I just know that the second time she really needed it because obviously her business took a hit Like a year in the restaurant business, you know you wasn't making anything during kovat. That's not true. I made more money in, I actually got screwed when they shut us down and they said you weren't allowed to leave.
Speaker 1:I swear to god you plead the fifth right now.
Speaker 3:No, I swear to god, this community was so you're not.
Speaker 1:You weren't supposed to leave the house.
Speaker 2:No, no, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:I wasn't in business, I had to go. I was doing carry out.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I thought you were, but this community was so good to me.
Speaker 3:This community was I mean, it was I. Literally. We had police showing up Like what? Four or five times because they thought we were open, because there were so many people in the parking lot picking up to Go's, but they were literally that's all they were doing waiting for the cops would come in.
Speaker 1:There be like six of us in here working, so I hear from other businesses that they they were at risk of closing.
Speaker 3:Oh, not me, I was, but. But that being said, then I've had a rough time since I. I did more in sales than just food during kovat and food was cheap, by the way, wings like instead of paint at the before kovat where like 86 a case, I'm buying them for like 39. Okay, you know, I mean like they were cheap. So I mean everything was doing good, everything was going great. But then as soon as the next year, as soon as that happened, that year was crazy. It was a pain in the ass because they opened us up. I had a patty was open before anyone else and everybody seemed to have money and it was. It was nuts.
Speaker 3:This place had business like I never seen before, but it wasn't good business. It was. It was. It was troublemakers and garbage and we were. It was just, it was horrible. I hated it. It was not Not my typical crowd, it wasn't enjoyable. Then the next year they tore this road out and put that 12 inch pipeline in there. So then I was blocked off for a year and then the following year I just never really did. So I've actually struggled worse since the pandemic. Then I did during the pan, during the pandemic. It did great.
Speaker 1:Well, there probably will be another pandemic coming up because it's election year, so hopefully you do great for that one too.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I don't think so I think I pissed everybody off now.
Speaker 1:Why, oh, from today's episode.
Speaker 3:No from the from the. Well yeah, the whistle blowing. Actually I've had nothing but good comments from it.
Speaker 1:Actually everybody said nothing but good thing and I think I think scotty gave it to me because he knew I would take it and listen. I sent it to newsmax, I sent it to every single Person that it needed to go to I, he and he knew he knows that about me. But Um, I just think they handled that so fucking stupid.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that was not.
Speaker 1:It was, and there's been no other chatter from them since. And I haven't got no real news stories out of it, or if, if they, if they Were sincerely, it was an accident and they know the public's pissed off, they would have already released the statement.
Speaker 3:Now let's take this back to the trump thing that we were talking about. This is a perfect little thing for you to For that. This is my example, paul. What Adams? You said paugh Adams, where he talked to every news camera. He talked to every every Outlet that contacted me, gave them their story, gave them the story as good as it could be, and everybody accepted it and then moved on and that's what got printed. Trump, on the other hand, in the same situation. We're like we didn't do nothing wrong. Fuck you. And then now, all of a sudden, the news is pissed off.
Speaker 1:Well, there well that.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm talking about. About, you know, there's a right way to do things at a wrong way to do.
Speaker 1:But they still should have came out with the public, public statement about it. That's transparency to the public. Now you questioned our integrity of an election.
Speaker 3:That's true.
Speaker 1:You should bring your ass out on a podium, or hey, send him a letter inviting him to come talk about it.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, I don't know if he would either way he has.
Speaker 1:Either way. They seem to forget we are their boss, we're, we're every elected officials boss. They get in the office and think we ain't got an answer. Yeah, you do. So now I'm gonna have to send a public records request for their phone. Yeah, I want the phone records for the phone I'm gonna sue them as soon as they tell me no.
Speaker 3:What are these phone records?
Speaker 1:because I want to see I if I think what's going on. They this was planned and I it's gonna show in your phone records. You always ask when you see an elected official.
Speaker 3:I can tell you how it was planned. I can tell you how I know it was planned Because he had a garbage bag in his pocket. That's how I know it was playing yeah so I want to know. I want to know.
Speaker 1:I want to know are you the bag man and who told you what to do? If it comes from and, and and I do things like this I'll send them any city, I don't care if it's, if it's youngstown, I'll. If I send you a public records request, you have to give it to me or I can sue you. That's what's going on with the prosecutor's office right now over public records requests.
Speaker 1:No kidding if you just come out and talk and and and and Tell people what is going on and like what's, be transparent with us, it'll go away. Elected officials only do that and and deny that stuff is when they're hiding something. If you have nothing to hide, then tell us what's going on. It's our money.
Speaker 2:If you get public records request and you get the phone records, will you open them up live here?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely I will.
Speaker 3:And do you now? But if they give you the answer, do you accept it?
Speaker 1:No, because then I find something and then we're going all hell's getting ready, break.
Speaker 3:No, I mean, before you get those records, I'm saying they come out on a podium, they give you their answer.
Speaker 1:I can read bullshit, so if they give me, so no and I will be there. And I will be there whenever they come out and talk. They know I'll be there. Yeah, if you ask jack briley, he'll say he'll call me the biggest pain in the ass.
Speaker 3:The biggest pain in the oh yeah.
Speaker 1:I sent a public records request that I I overload them.
Speaker 3:So what do you? Do you ever get any once in a while?
Speaker 1:I've, I've, I've gotten plenty of them. What'd you say?
Speaker 3:Do you talk to them Sometimes, on occasion, do you get to meet and greet and talk with them at all outside of, like you're not a yelling at them or nothing, and oh, I'll go in this.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, it's a, both, yeah, it's a, it's a fake. It's hi Tia, how are you? Like, oh, the pain in the ass is here. Like, yeah, yeah, I, I don't. I take nothing. He says with face value.
Speaker 3:Well, that's any attorney, in my opinion. Yeah it's kind of how I feel about the whole Bunch as a whole, you know, and then ray carry on. Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:Oh, we love us some ray carry I know, but listen, I was a huge rate, listen, I was a huge ray.
Speaker 3:I love me some ray.
Speaker 1:Listen to hear me out, hear me out, right, and just hear me out. I have, I do like ray carry on. Ray carry on has done a lot of things for south Lorraine. He's done more than probably any of them have done in Years. Right, and he did it on his own. He didn't, he didn't ask for permission, he just fucking got it done right. But then he he was leaving and not running For office because he was having health issues. So how the fuck did he just become the safety service director?
Speaker 3:I have never heard. I want that we actually had Antonio Baez on here Prior to that happening, before it happened, when Baez was taking over for for him and the words that he was ill was never brought up at all.
Speaker 1:But if you read the paper, he said he's doing it for health reasons.
Speaker 3:I never seen that.
Speaker 1:Oh, I will share it to your facebook. But even, even so.
Speaker 3:Maybe it's just because they said it. Ray never said it to me?
Speaker 1:No, it was his statement.
Speaker 3:Okay, just because they said it, that ray never said it to me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, okay I understand what you're saying, but but here's my thing like the citizens, a lot of citizens wanted ray to run as mayor. I mean, if ray would have ran against jack and mary, a lot of citizens love mary to death like she she did. She does get down to the point for a lot of things. Like I will give that to her, the citizens. I believe it would have been a fight between ray and mary. Jack wouldn't have gotten In, nowhere near that. You know what I mean. But also only what 5 000 people came out and voted for that Fucking whole election.
Speaker 3:The only time you get anybody to vote anymore is for the, the big elections, that's it. I just don't know how they come out for that presidential, and that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but, like I said, ray might have just got out. It was probably a better opportunity for him, but and it might have been an easy and it's and no, it's not even that ray.
Speaker 3:You know, ray was already working in overland. I don't know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, at kindle.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was working at kindle and and this is an opportunity for him to be involved in a city and help not only south Orin but the whole city and it's it's a better move and he put somebody behind him that he believes and trusts.
Speaker 1:He's gotten more stress as a safety service director than he would have as had as mayor for his, for his health issues. What he said, he put more stress on his heart as a safety service director as he did as mayor. His ultimate goal it was to make lorraine a better city right.
Speaker 1:And I and I and I truly believe that, like I will never, ever say that I don't believe that, like ray, me and ray's had some long conversations. He's even gotten on me about my mouth and oh yeah. But I but I respect mr Carry on, but I just don't get why he did that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a personal reasons, but I have no idea.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure I was. I wasn't under that impression. I thought he just made the move where he could do more for the whole city and south orin as as a whole, and and put somebody that he, that he, you know, like he trusts in and at tonio bias.
Speaker 2:So what do you think about Antonio?
Speaker 1:I've never met the guy I. I literally like they. That whole city has me annoyed.
Speaker 3:I just watched the we had him in here Right before he actually months ago. Yeah, I was like that. I think it was a week before he actually right took In a nice guy.
Speaker 2:Might have been a couple days.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's a regular in here, I mean ray, are both regulars, mm-hmm, and they're both genuine and wanting to do the best they can. Um and ray is ray and him both. The one thing I say that they both have in common is that they, they like to, they like the old-fashioned family values and they that's, that's their big selling point of and that's what they want to see.
Speaker 1:And that's the citizens. Like there's so many citizens. Biggest question was how that happened. Like I'm sure If I was to see ray today I would ask him and ray would tell me, like that's just how it is. But then he's moved. I heard he's moved from south Lorraine over to the eighth ward. He sold his house. That's just what I've been told by one of the neighbors. I don't know if that's true, but he's still coming in here.
Speaker 3:I'll, I'm sure he's.
Speaker 1:This is a spot like he's always gonna come in wife come in and have dinner, but that's. They lived right down the road, so I mean yeah, but I was told that he's moved, so I don't, I don't know, I haven't seen him to ask him.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't know. Yeah, I don't. I don't know about that either. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1:That doesn't have to ask him for me next time, next time you see him I will.
Speaker 3:I will just be like definitely have money here. Yeah, just be like. Yeah, ray said he'd come up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just say tia said call her and she has a question for you and he will, because mr Carion is never given me. I've never disrespected mr Carion. If I did, it was an accident, but a few of the other ones he's got on to me for disrespect.
Speaker 3:There goes a perfect example of somebody who is genuine and what he's doing you know at all costs. Whatever he's doing, I promise, no matter what it is, it's genuine. The man has no interest in anything.
Speaker 1:Well, it will it will and I'm not listen, and I'm not saying that by any means that he is I'm. I would never say that if he was doing something I would call him out on it. It would have already been called him out on it. No, he's not.
Speaker 3:There's no ill will in that man's heart or just other. It's like. That's why I like Scott. That's me, and Scottie, that's one of that. That Scottie is one of the, the most genuine. You always know where you stand with Scottie. He's he, you know, he's just a good-hearted person, period, and I, you know what I mean, and that's just that's, that's. And ray's one of those guys too. Ray is just every. You know when you stand with ray. He's a good-hearted person.
Speaker 3:He tries to do everything like he's supposed to and he and he just wants to do better for the community right.
Speaker 1:And so Scottie, like I I do know that about Scottie and like we had probably a two-hour conversation about he wanted to know why I didn't support JD Tomlinson and I told him and we had a flat out two-hour Conversation on the phone and at the end of the day, he understood my side and how I was feeling.
Speaker 3:So, scottie, I don't support JD.
Speaker 1:So I did until the hundred thousand dollar Transparency. He's not come out and he's not told the public. Hey, what that was taxpayers money. There was no way they should have kept that hush hush. There was the way that they filed. That was completely wrong. The commissioners should have never signed off on that. It should have been used as insurance money.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So and he still has yet to come out and talk to us about it. There's so many public records requests that citizens have filed. At the end of the day, I'm on the citizen side, no matter what that comes first. If a citizen is asking for a public records request and you're not giving it to them, knowing you have to legally per the Sunshine Law, I have to stand up for the citizen. I always will. If Scotty was to do something wrong, I would hold Scotty accountable. If I do something wrong, scotty holds my ass accountable if I do something wrong, like it doesn't matter how long we're friends. Jd messed up on that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about specifically, but I love me some JD.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I'm just and listen, you can ask him like I I.
Speaker 3:Do you think JD's hot? No, my husband's way hotter.
Speaker 1:Come on be honest, my husband is way hotter, yeah I don't believe her. Yeah no, my no, no, but he did wrong by that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I don't have to look into it. I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:I don't care how long we've been friends. It it is what it is. I can't stand on that.
Speaker 3:Hey, anything else you want to add to our no, but this has been a lot longer than an hour. It has been yeah, it has been a real long. It has been long, but you've got a lot. You've got going on. You've got more things than I knew about. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm in a million places.
Speaker 3:And you're still. We're trying to get a charter. You're still trying to do that.
Speaker 1:No, I've not, not you gave up on that. No, I'm going to hit them when they're not looking.
Speaker 2:So what? What um like? Is there a specific like? If you already tried a certain time, how long you got to wait for you do it again.
Speaker 1:You could do one, every every election if you wanted to. But I want to, I want to.
Speaker 2:They're getting ready to.
Speaker 1:Brian's down. Oh yeah, I'm going to hit them where it hurts.
Speaker 3:I'm going to I'm going to one hit or quitter them this time. Get your ducks in a row.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, listen, I learned the first time you you've told us the citizens have been over and you've been.
Speaker 3:Me and Keith have been bouncing something back and forth. We want to get Guido in as mayor.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1:Hell, no, really he would. He would never be there. No, you would never be there. We'd be paying for you to go to the dentist.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about? Am I right? I mean, she's got a point.
Speaker 3:Just when you got a. You are at a dentist when everything's happening. Yeah, you were. You got a lot of.
Speaker 1:You got a long time. You got to prove yourself before you. You got to make sure all your teeth are done Listen listen, it's not for everybody.
Speaker 2:She don't have to vote for me, that's just one person.
Speaker 1:I can't vote for you anyways, she's an Amherst.
Speaker 2:What are you talking to her about me, for?
Speaker 1:Hey, my mouth is still big. I'm probably the loudest one in the county.
Speaker 3:I don't know. There's some loud mouths over in this county.
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 3:They exist, they just have. They just arguing about Dumber shit, the price of a beer or something.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you want to see it. We'll go downstairs, I will show you.
Speaker 3:No, we kicked her out, oh yeah. No pizza for you, no pizza for you, no pizza for you.
Speaker 1:So are you going to run a special for your Eclipse Day?
Speaker 3:We are. We're going to treat it kind of like St Patrick's Day. We're going to do kegs and eggs in the morning.
Speaker 1:Just go down to a three item or four item menu because of all the people coming in and people if they're hungry they're going to eat.
Speaker 3:I get that, I understand that and I think it's going to end up. I really think you're going to end up getting what you get at some point, because it's just you're just going to, I think, run out of everything.
Speaker 1:I don't, because if you get that many people in here and they don't have a kitchen, they're not eat, they're going to eat out, you know what I mean, and the mayor of Cleveland said yesterday I believe it was on the news station that it's going to be like St Patrick's Day Cavaliers Championship and a Browns Championship all at one time.
Speaker 3:That's going to be that way in Lorraine too.
Speaker 1:Oh, we're the hotspot from here to Avon Lake.
Speaker 3:Yep.
Speaker 1:So we're going to be like we're keeping our asses on.
Speaker 2:Where are you going? You coming here.
Speaker 1:No, I'm staying home. I'm down my husband's down the rabbit hole on the conspiracy theories and all of that shit too.
Speaker 2:So he's going to jump on the no he thinks, everybody thinks something bigger is going to happen.
Speaker 3:Really, if he gives you some quarters and gets through some purple Kool-Aid, don't do it.
Speaker 1:Oh, no, no, no, no, yeah, so yeah, but I don't know, we'll probably just stay home.
Speaker 3:All right. Well, it's been awesome having you on. We'll have to have you back on again when we get some more information about all the different little things, don't forget when you get them for your request. Yeah, oh, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was supposed to send you something I'm not sure, so you'll have to just tell me what I was supposed to send you. Oh, the Ray carry, was it the Ray thing about?
Speaker 3:the report. Yeah, you said that there was an article said that he was dropping out because of his health.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I wanted to say, and more about the JD thing, right? Oh, that's been Oliver. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'll be looking at that. I'm not. I mean I've trusted JD pretty faithfully, though, so I would find that one hard to believe.
Speaker 1:But that doesn't mean it's, and there could be bigger stuff in the story that we don't know about, but we want to know where a fucking $100,000 went right. I mean, that's the moral, that's down to the bottom line.
Speaker 2:He did ask my shoes on when I seen it.
Speaker 1:It sure he ain't paying for your dentist appointment.
Speaker 2:Just kidding you sure he ain't paying for your dentist appointment no I got medical.
Speaker 3:What kind of shoes did he have on? They were nice.
Speaker 2:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:He's so stupid, all right.
Speaker 3:All right, we're out of here, peace.