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Sports Scandals, Social Development, and Concrete Chaos: Stories that Unite and Divide

April 14, 2024 James Tucker & Santiago Lopez Season 2 Episode 18
Sports Scandals, Social Development, and Concrete Chaos: Stories that Unite and Divide
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Sports Scandals, Social Development, and Concrete Chaos: Stories that Unite and Divide
Apr 14, 2024 Season 2 Episode 18
James Tucker & Santiago Lopez

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As the whistle of tax season comes to a close, we find ourselves weaving through the rich tapestry of life's highs and lows, from the sodden trenches of construction sites to the heated debates that crown sports legends. Jim Brown, a beacon of Cleveland pride, sparks a conversation that spans the gridiron to the gavel, dissecting a legacy entwined with the fabric of American history—yes, we're talking about the O.J. Simpson saga. We don't just stop at the trial; we pull at threads that reveal the cultural quilting of the '90s, the Rodney King incident, and the societal ripples that followed, all the while pondering how AI could one day throw a wrench in the gears of truth.

Gather 'round as we share the lighter side of collective memory and the quirky tales that connect us—from workplace banter during the Simpson trial to guiding our kids through the thicket of puberty with humor and a dash of bewilderment. We unravel the knots of childhood development, weighing the influence of siblings against the solo journey of only children. It's a wild ride through the past and present, as we reminisce about the days when "Who Shot J.R.?" was the cliffhanger that had everyone talking, and consider how today's dramas play out in the theater of social media—even from behind bars.

Strap in as we navigate the current affairs shaping our world, from the ominous drumbeat of international conflict to the evolving landscape of national security. We aim a lens at the resilience of communities, the perseverance of local businesses, and the everyday moments that spark unexpected joy or frustration—like that concrete delivery that nearly went awry. We wrap up our chat with a candid exploration of racism, cultural misunderstandings, and look forward to the simple pleasures of tailgating with our furry friends. Join us as we share stories that celebrate, challenge, and connect us in the tapestry of life.

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As the whistle of tax season comes to a close, we find ourselves weaving through the rich tapestry of life's highs and lows, from the sodden trenches of construction sites to the heated debates that crown sports legends. Jim Brown, a beacon of Cleveland pride, sparks a conversation that spans the gridiron to the gavel, dissecting a legacy entwined with the fabric of American history—yes, we're talking about the O.J. Simpson saga. We don't just stop at the trial; we pull at threads that reveal the cultural quilting of the '90s, the Rodney King incident, and the societal ripples that followed, all the while pondering how AI could one day throw a wrench in the gears of truth.

Gather 'round as we share the lighter side of collective memory and the quirky tales that connect us—from workplace banter during the Simpson trial to guiding our kids through the thicket of puberty with humor and a dash of bewilderment. We unravel the knots of childhood development, weighing the influence of siblings against the solo journey of only children. It's a wild ride through the past and present, as we reminisce about the days when "Who Shot J.R.?" was the cliffhanger that had everyone talking, and consider how today's dramas play out in the theater of social media—even from behind bars.

Strap in as we navigate the current affairs shaping our world, from the ominous drumbeat of international conflict to the evolving landscape of national security. We aim a lens at the resilience of communities, the perseverance of local businesses, and the everyday moments that spark unexpected joy or frustration—like that concrete delivery that nearly went awry. We wrap up our chat with a candid exploration of racism, cultural misunderstandings, and look forward to the simple pleasures of tailgating with our furry friends. Join us as we share stories that celebrate, challenge, and connect us in the tapestry of life.

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Speaker 1:

Good morning. Here we are, sunday morning. April 14th Means you got to go pay your taxes tomorrow. File your taxes or file for an extension. Whichever I mean one way or the other, right.

Speaker 2:

Got to be filed.

Speaker 1:

Huh.

Speaker 2:

It's got to be filed.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, yeah, you got to file at least your extension by tomorrow. Yeah, I would say, what's? Uh? What'd you got going on this week? Anything this week? Yeah, I've been working a lot.

Speaker 2:

You've been working a lot. Oh yeah, oh. You're talking about this past week or the coming week. No, this past.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, oh you're talking about this past week or the coming week? No, this past week. Yeah, yeah, it works Crazy With all that rain. You guys are working that much. Huh, yeah, that four don't care. Well, it's all under roof right yeah, leaky roof. Is it leaking?

Speaker 2:

That was a spot. It was leaking pretty good the other day.

Speaker 1:

The pretty good the roof on it it is on it. It's leaking pretty good. Yeah, probably, probably a hole for a freaking unit or something, right I?

Speaker 2:

don't know, but hopefully they shut it down right before we were supposed to. We left like we didn't put in the last 40 yards or something because of the rain. Yeah, it was puddled up right there, so they didn't pour that part, or something.

Speaker 1:

Huh, so there's Brian.

Speaker 2:

He's on already I seen him yesterday I was running around stores seen him. Would you go shopping? Yeah, I went and bought some clothes and groceries.

Speaker 1:

Clothes and groceries. Okay.

Speaker 2:

Brian's just running around looking like he was lost in there did you see?

Speaker 1:

we lost one of the greatest running backs of all time the greatest running back of all time, not the greatest I said one of the greatest at the time.

Speaker 1:

He was the greatest. No, he wasn't. Who was jim brown? It ain't never anybody but jim brown. Come on now. This is cleveland. What's the matter with you? It ain't never anybody but Jim Brown. Come on now. This is Cleveland. What's the matter with you? Did you see that interview they did with one juror. They interviewed the one juror. They said they asked her if the innocent verdict was payback for Rodney King and she said absolutely. She said how many other jurors he said he asked her. She said 90% was just given payback for Rodney King. And for our younger viewers that don't know what Rodney King is, my wife didn't really know the whole story behind Rodney King. And for our younger viewers that don't know what Rodney King is, my wife didn't really know the whole story behind Rodney King, but it was LA race riots. It was probably the first time you've seen that. Well, first time we've seen it. I know Cleveland had some riots too, right, yeah, before we were born.

Speaker 2:

Right, it was like in the 60s.

Speaker 1:

But the ones we remember were the LA race riots where they chased, they chased that rodney king down and then they were just beating the shit out of them, like just literally beating the shit out of them. And then the day that they prosecute or they went to court or whatever and they found them all innocent, they just burned the fucking city down for like five days. Yeah, they said 50 people died. It was crazy, it was nuts. So the woman says that that that's why they did the innocent verdict. That was it. That's basically the only reason. Like they just felt like it was revenge, which is shitty, because OJ was I mean, he was black in color, but that dude hadn't hung with black people in a long time. He was living the white life for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what was them gloves that he was selling on the commercials?

Speaker 1:

isotone isotona's if the glove don't fit, you must acquit. I'm seeing things that are saying that that they think he was covering up for his son, that he didn't even do it his son. I think his son did it. Yeah, I mean, you know, the is too. The one thing that never did set well with me is the isotonic glove that they did find is a large it wasn't an isotonic. Yeah, it is. Well, it was that type of glove.

Speaker 2:

No, I thought it was a leather glove. That's why I shrunk.

Speaker 1:

No well, I think it was an isotonic leather, though I thought. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 2:

I don leather, though I thought I don't. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but it was large though, wasn't?

Speaker 1:

isotoner, uh, a vinyl like glove.

Speaker 2:

It was like a was a name brand. Yeah, and it was a, it was a vinyl glove.

Speaker 1:

You might be right, but it was a large is my point. And like we use large gloves. Like in the kitchen, we can't use large gloves. They're not big enough, we use extra large. What's the odds that oj simpson, the greatest running back of all time, had large gloves? It just doesn't sit right with me. You know what I mean. He wouldn't have had large gloves. Large is a small size.

Speaker 2:

When you're talking, yeah, but there's all kinds of reasons why. Maybe he brought the wrong gloves and was like, oh shit, I'm just throwing them, they don't fit.

Speaker 1:

Who brings gloves to murder somebody and brings the wrong ones.

Speaker 2:

Who murders anybody?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. That's what they're saying. They think that he, just like they'd say, he actually might've did something for his son.

Speaker 2:

I never heard of anybody reading that book.

Speaker 1:

It's out though. It is out there. Yeah, I need to read it now. If I did it, he said if I did it this is how I would have done it yeah yeah, he did it.

Speaker 1:

Well, a lot of people say that, a lot of people. But other people say he didn't, that he was covering for his son, and you know, even the one I watched like because when I seen that I'm like I never really heard that theory and they showed the one son, as in her son no from his first marriage, jason Simpson, I don't know, no, from his first marriage, not her own child.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no, no, not that that doesn't happen, that could happen just the same. I mean, people are fucked up in this world. Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, that's all over the news. Now they're talking about it again.

Speaker 2:

I, that little fucking white dude that was his buddy that hung around all the time. I remember he was all involved in it too. What the fuck was that dude's name?

Speaker 1:

That was his buddy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like he helped him run a house shit, he hung out with him.

Speaker 1:

Tonto Kato. Yeah, Kato, something like that. Kato, Kato, Kato.

Speaker 2:

I forgot about that dude.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know what happened with him he knows what happened. You think so Fuck, yeah, you know who. I think knows who happened and what happened is that dude that was driving a Bronco. That's who I think knows what happened. Probably what was his name that played with him in Buffalo.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but he probably was telling the whole story.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm sure he did I. I'm sure he told him everything. I'm sure he knows exactly what happened.

Speaker 2:

Brian said, he did that shit Kato.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, brian said Kato Kato Kaelin, right, isn't it? Kaelin Kato Kaelin. Or maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. That was a long time ago.

Speaker 1:

That's a long time ago. I mean, it was a big deal.

Speaker 2:

You couldn't watch nothing. It was all over the news, it was every channel. It was crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but can you believe? The jurors saying that they like it was because it was a lot of black jurors and they were like saying, yeah, it was basically revenge for Rodney King.

Speaker 2:

Nah, I doubt that.

Speaker 1:

That's what she. She was the juror. She came out of her own mouth.

Speaker 2:

That's her saying it.

Speaker 1:

That ain't the rest of them saying. It did it that way for that reason. That's her guess. She said my guess is 90 of us were for that reason. I mean I wouldn't have put the two together but but I mean the rodney king thing was fucked up man. They beat the shit out of that dude then it. But then they ended up. Didn't all of them ended up getting prosecuted, like by federal court or something, or state court or something?

Speaker 2:

they all ended up going to jail I remember I've seen a remember I seen a clip on you know how, because he just passed there's a lot of clips out there now about that and then they had that one guy, that one cop, that was fucking everything up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the problem with it, that they had a bad cop involved in it. And that's where a lot of people say they think he was trying to plant evidence right early on.

Speaker 2:

Then he kept playing the fifth, so they were like get out of here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right, yeah. And then they had that goofy what was her name? The prosecutor girl or whatever. That was like she got ugly, she was real ugly and then she kind of like as the trial started going on.

Speaker 2:

She got nice clothes yeah, she started styling it up. Get your hair done yeah, she started showboating. She thought she was going to be a celebrity.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I ain't heard of her. I don't even remember her name.

Speaker 2:

Look you on the podcast. Your hair is still a mess. You don't care.

Speaker 1:

I don't give a shit. Wait till I get famous. Yeah, get a new dress and everything. Mark Furman. Yeah, what was the woman's name? How's Brian? Don't remember all this shit.

Speaker 2:

He's probably googling it.

Speaker 1:

You see that big old pause oh, it could be well, I don't know. We're delayed, it's a delay. Oh well, we're on a delay. Like it goes slightly delayed whenever it comes across yeah, he's googling I just think it's crazy. I just find it. I wonder what happened with the cleveland thing. I should look into that. That's something we should look into. The riots in cleveland oh yeah yeah. But yeah, la was like crazy. That was like for I was unrest forever you know what I mean that was nuts.

Speaker 1:

And then people like amanda don't even know about it. You know, because she was what? Six years old when it happened, or something you know. That's pretty wild. You put no clue. Yeah, I don't remember her name either. Google, google it. But she was all over it. She's the one who fumbled the whole thing, right. For the most part, that was her right. I think she fumbled.

Speaker 2:

No, I think.

Speaker 1:

I think Furman fumbled too, but yeah.

Speaker 2:

For her putting him on there.

Speaker 1:

But I think she did the most fumbling, I think I'm pretty sure. I think that, like because the common Common sense to me is, if that glove says large on it, I don't try to put it on OJ's hand period, I just don't. I mean I can't fit in a large glove. I know OJ can't fit in a large glove. Well, that was probably his lawyers that made him do that. No, she wanted it to go on. Yeah, she wanted it to go on, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah that was, she didn't fight it.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. Okay, yeah, okay, like the glove was there and what it had blood on it or something.

Speaker 1:

It was in the driveway. Yeah, it had all the blood on it and everything. Yeah, it was in the driveway. I think it was left in the driveway.

Speaker 2:

Maybe it was two people.

Speaker 1:

They say there was two footprints. That's what they say.

Speaker 2:

Both.

Speaker 1:

They say both smaller foot feet too, like nine and eleven or something like that.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying, that's what they say. I don't know, anyways, that when he got in trouble for the other shit they were, that was retaliation for him getting away with that one oh yeah, for sure oh yeah, you got what? How many years for that shit?

Speaker 1:

I don't even remember, yeah like well, but he was like it was. It was armed robbery. I mean it was armed robbery, his shit or not, it was armed robbery. I mean it was armed robbery, his shit or not, it was armed robbery regardless. He put a gun to him and took his shit back, but it was armed robbery.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I can understand that one.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that kid can't Give him my shit. No, I'm just kidding Marsha Clark. He just looked it up. That was her name, marsha Clark. He's right, marsha Clark.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I remember her. Yeah, she came in looking so homely. She started putting on ooh, look at this nice dress.

Speaker 1:

I wonder how that works. She became so famous. Did her career take off after that? Or did she have a good career after that? Or did that just kill her career because she fumbled it? That's what I wonder. I should look that up too.

Speaker 2:

You know, after that she probably had so many interviews that paid so good. You know what I'm saying. She probably had a nice nest egg after that you think so. Probably.

Speaker 1:

See, it seemed like people just didn't like her. There was just something about her.

Speaker 2:

You just didn't like, yeah, you come out looking homely and all of a sudden you're starting to, instead of the court, the case. You know what I?

Speaker 1:

mean, yeah, I got to do my best.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I got to do my best. Nine years, is that what he got for that? But that's armed robbery, though. I mean armed robbery is still armed robbery. Technically, none of that shit was his anyways, because that was all memorabilia stuff. So he was stealing back shit that wasn't even his really Right. That should have went to the families of Brown and Goldman or whatever, right.

Speaker 1:

Well that's probably who auctioned it off. Yeah, probably, but I think they stole it. I think these people actually stole it. Oh yeah, yeah, it was shit that got stolen for sure, because somebody stole the OJ bus too, remember, like the Heisman bus.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't remember that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, people were stealing shit, for sure.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember that yeah people were stealing shit, for sure. I don't remember that shit, man. That shit was so long ago. How long ago was that, oh God?

Speaker 1:

That's 30 years. Yeah, 94, I think I think it was 94,. I think I think the court was going on in 95, but I think it all happened in 94.

Speaker 2:

I remember thinking, when it was on tv, like, oh my god, it's still on. You know what I mean. Like they was going on on that, oh, yeah, that was breaking into everything.

Speaker 1:

You couldn't watch it on that and back then we didn't have like all the like channels you have today.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you were stuck on a few channels and you had to watch this shit or don't watch tv.

Speaker 1:

yeah, I mean you had cable, still you could go watch, watch HBO or something, but I mean you couldn't watch like any kind of news or anything like that. No way, you couldn't do that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was the first thing.

Speaker 1:

Then they said to over and over uh, worst part about that whole thing with the with the thing is not knowing for sure if, if, if he actually did it, cause there's a lot of there's a lot of suspicious stuff, and it's all mostly because of Mark Furman, right.

Speaker 1:

You know, what I mean. Like if it wasn't for him that you it would probably be a cut and dry case, but that guy just fricking fuck it all up, yeah, and he made and it like that Cause I remember didn't he have like I didn't watch that documentary enough. I should have watched it, that one. It was just out. I didn't see none of that. It was like I think it was on Netflix or something.

Speaker 2:

It was like it was like the OJ Simpson, it was like the whole thing was going down. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I at first and then you just got tired of it. Yeah right, it's like okay, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2:

I mean it was interesting back then a lot of the way that he carried himself after. That was kind of stupid yeah, I remember.

Speaker 1:

I remember like everybody just being like like. I remember this old man that used to work with us. I remember him being in the middle of the, in the middle of the job site, and he starts doing the cabbage patch and he's going oh, jay's going to jail. And he was an old man, dude. That shit was so funny to me because I was I mean, I was 20 years old at the time 21, 22.

Speaker 1:

that'd be crazy man like you never know, like 20 years from now they'll be like just straight evidence, straight evidence that he didn't do it. I mean I, you don't know, because you see all this stuff that comes across the internet that influences you one way or another yeah, and you start to wonder.

Speaker 1:

And they, like I said, they have, they literally have things out there on the internet that say that there's two size shoe prints neither one of them being his size shoe print that are on the job on the on site. You know what I mean. So I mean, yet you don't know. And now what that's even worse with this ai shit where they could just make somebody say something they didn't say, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

They might have a cold confession come out.

Speaker 1:

Right, yeah, right read the oj if I did it book, but Act like you did it in OJ's voice and they probably can just do it automatically. That AI shit's scary bro, yeah, you ain't kidding.

Speaker 2:

We said that exact same thing last week.

Speaker 1:

Yep, yep, yep, last week. It's scary. It is definitely scary. The funny thing is, this week that's been going on with me is dylan, and we talked about it last week. It's funny because we were just talking about it like you remember what it was like to be his age or whatever, and all that stuff. And then all of a sudden we get an email from the school and it's a link to a youtube video they're going to make them watch about puberty.

Speaker 2:

It's funny for us, but it wasn't funny back then.

Speaker 1:

I mean, we were laughing in the classroom. I mean we were laughing just the same, but I thought it'd be funny for us to watch it. You want to watch it? No, what do you mean? You don't want to watch it?

Speaker 2:

No, I don't, it's funny. Okay, you watch it. You want to watch it? No, what do you mean? You don't want to watch it? No, I don't it's funny. Okay, you watch it.

Speaker 1:

Tell me how funny. No, no, it's right here. I got it geared up, it's ready to go. We're going to go step by step through it.

Speaker 2:

I'm cool.

Speaker 1:

You don't want to do that.

Speaker 1:

No and they don't do the things in that video that we were talking about doing. Like, like, they didn't explain things. They just kind of tell you it happens. They don't explain it to you really, yeah, that's weird to me. Like, like we got told. Like, because it talks about like wet dreams, all that stuff like it's, like, it's into, but it just tells you it happens. It just tells you that it happens. It doesn't explain to you that you know, like, like. I remember they told us that like the semen builds up you know what I'm saying and that it just has to come out or whatever. It's not like women who are born with all their like. It didn't explain any of that, just like, yeah, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 2:

Like this is just gonna happen I don't know, just in general, being in school, what do you think you took from it?

Speaker 1:

From the video back then?

Speaker 2:

No, I'm talking about school.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think I learned plenty in school. I think I mean, you don't think so.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think you learn how to. That's why I don't like that homeschooling. I think you learn how to deal with people. Better Social skills are the best part of that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, social skills are the. Social skills are the best part of that yeah. Social skills are the social interaction is. What you get more than anything out of that is learning how to deal with other people. Yeah, and you get that from preschool, from if you can go into preschool. Like, like Lexa when she was in, uh, I remember Jen fighting for her to go to preschool and I thought it was silly. Like you pay to go to preschool. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like, like, it's like why they're not even teaching them, or nothing.

Speaker 1:

That's how I thought, but I didn't. I didn't even go to kindergarten as a kid, I flunked kindergarten I never went to it I flunked it no, I never went to kindergarten.

Speaker 2:

Why? Why I don't play?

Speaker 1:

no, I never went to kindergarten. I was never in kindergarten, I went straight to first grade. So to me it didn't make sense, to me.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean? Well, yeah, you didn't experience it. That's why Right.

Speaker 1:

But then when she was demanding about it for Alexa and Haley and it's like I get it now it does teach them how to listen, behave, interact with other kids, all that stuff. But these videos and stuff that they show like I don't, I don't, I don't know, like with me at that age, at 11, I think I pretty much understood most of those dreams and had talked shit with friends over that already. You know what. I mean, but I feel like Dylan hasn't, because they don't socialize like they used to know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Well, he kind of does, don't they go outside and play.

Speaker 1:

But it's like I mean the the one group of kids that are down the street, they're like they're very religious, they're, they're, uh, muslim and they're very religious, so they might not really have the like that kind of stuff going on and we certainly don't have nothing like that talking about or going on in front of them you know, know what I mean In front of Dylan.

Speaker 1:

So then that leaves you with. You got Edward across the street who I don't know if he would be, I don't know what he, you know, brings to the conversations. I mean, I've never heard anything. I know I've I've heard him cuss like on the ring cam and stuff, but I mean, for the most part I think all those kids are like pretty innocent right now.

Speaker 2:

They're still young Give them another chance.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, but I like I'm saying like at 11, I was already like when they showed me that video I understood most of it already. You know what I mean. I don't know that I understood the like science behind it, but I knew about it. You know what I mean. Like they're not even really explaining the science too much, they're just giving you that it's gonna happen type stuff. You know there's no real science about it, but I I thought it was. I mean it was funny. Like I put it on and I I'm like it's fucking. You can't help but laugh like when you got. It's like, and he's got to deal with this right now you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like I feel bad for him, I gotta bring. I keep forgetting what's that I got a couple things for him.

Speaker 1:

Anything good.

Speaker 2:

I'm not talking about it.

Speaker 1:

What was?

Speaker 2:

it them coins and stuff.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the coins, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he loves to collect his coins and shit like that. Brian said preschool's a must. Did you go to preschool, brian? Did you go to preschool or no? I don't remember, I don't remember yesterday I don't think I went to preschool. I don't think that was a thing, really that much when we were kids, was it Like I don't remember anybody, like I remember when we got older. I remember like Head Start showing up, like seeing Head Start, whatever that was.

Speaker 2:

You know what? I think it's different too if you got siblings. What do you mean? Just your social skills, like a single kid. It's a little different, you think so. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1:

Well, we played in the neighborhood more as kids too, we would just be out with the neighbor kids.

Speaker 2:

But I'm just saying I'm saying preschool compared to if you got siblings at home. You learn them social skills at home.

Speaker 1:

You do with your siblings.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because they got experiences other places or whatever. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

And you learn social skills from them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you learn how to cuss them out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's different. That's cussing them out.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm just saying you learn from your siblings.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean you learn from them, but the social interaction is like it's different, because you don't have to watch yourself around your family like that you know what I mean Like you do out in public. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

I think having siblings helps.

Speaker 1:

Like you say, you learn to cuss them out and in school you learn learn to cuss them out and in school you learn not to cuss them out.

Speaker 2:

Well then you learn that when they get their ass whooped.

Speaker 1:

You know not to do that.

Speaker 2:

But I'm just saying I think siblings makes it different, like I think a single kid's got a better imagination, like a kid that's the only one he's got a better imagination, I think sometimes because they're by themselves a lot.

Speaker 1:

You know, it's a good argument. I don't know, I really don't know. I was a single kid, but not as a little kid like, because I was. I mean, my mom was out living with, uh uh, my grandparents, so I had bobby and danny and Clifford and everybody in the house with us, you know what I mean Until I was like maybe 11 and I finally moved out and then I was basically a single you know, but you already got most of that, what I'm talking about by 11.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so I really was never a really a only child. I mean, I was, but I wasn't. I was only child to my mother and that was it.

Speaker 2:

You know I mean, but I wasn't really like.

Speaker 1:

I was always in that family environment. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, we, we you're ben, you I might have got social skills and, like you say, I don't know that's a good, I don't know. We could ask. We could ask who do we know that was an only child? Sean nat was an only child, I think, right. I don't think he has siblings. I could ask him. He do we know that was an only child? Sean Natt was an only child, I think right, I don't think he has siblings. I could ask him.

Speaker 1:

He's the one that's a stand-up comic. Maybe he did have a good imagination.

Speaker 2:

I know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

It could be you might be right. You didn't have a good imagination growing up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but I had two sisters and they was just totally there. You know what I'm saying. So I was kind of about just friends. I wasn't always with my sisters two girls, like I didn't want to be around them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, does that the fighting with your sisters is that did that? I'm sure that happened.

Speaker 2:

Why are you going to talk about that?

Speaker 1:

No, I'm just saying how do you?

Speaker 2:

think that affects relationships when you get older. I've been wanting to kill women. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:

My sisters used to beat me up. Yeah, I'm sure they did, I'm sure.

Speaker 2:

Women still can. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:

They probably still want to.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I don't mess with them.

Speaker 1:

But I mean, I'm just curious like what you think, like does that help? How do you think interacting with your sisters affected you with girls, with girls as a relationship goes?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I'm single. I don't know, probably not too good.

Speaker 1:

You hated them, you hated your sisters. Then, huh, I ain't living up. I seen how they act. Yeah, I ain't living with nothing ever again.

Speaker 2:

The stories you hear in the behind the walls. You should be like hell. No, I don't want to hear this.

Speaker 1:

You know what?

Speaker 2:

the worst thing was you come home and there's just soap operas on and stupid shit like that and you're like ah. Your sisters watch soap operas and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they got into it at a certain age and I'd just walk in the house and you couldn't touch the TV. Like you said, there was only a few channels back then we didn't have TVs. You got the living bathrooms now and the kitchens and everything else. No, we didn't. We had one major tv and that was it. Yeah, maybe your parents had one, maybe. So I'm like you come home you got soul propers on dynasty and shit like that and you're like what the hell next? You know, I'm hooked on dynasty. I gotta go hope dynasty's on.

Speaker 1:

I never watched Dynasty ever, oh my God. I never watched it. I think I was just a little too young.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, who shot JR? And all that bullshit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I remember that being the big.

Speaker 2:

Thing who shot?

Speaker 1:

JR, but I didn't know anything. I still don't know anything about what actually went on with it. I think I was just a little too young for that. It was his wife.

Speaker 2:

His wife shot him yeah, I don't know spoiler alert yeah, how's that spoiler 30 years ago?

Speaker 1:

it's more than 30 that's 40 years ago. Yeah, that's a long, long time ago.

Speaker 2:

That was a big deal what was called dallas, that was dallas, and then there was a spinoff that was called uh. What did I just say?

Speaker 1:

I don't know what you just said. I thought you said I thought I was thinking it was the same thing. Dynasty, yeah, that's not the same thing, and it was dynasty oh really I believe it was a spinoff.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I didn't know that, I just thought you said man, it was 40 years ago, I can't remember all that shit yeah, I didn't watch none of that shit, none of it.

Speaker 1:

I remember watching like I liked like, uh, what was the one with the butler, what was his name? I loved that show. Who's boss? No, that's two, that's like older, I'm talking when we were kids Like Benson or something, maybe. Oh yeah, was it Benson? Is that what it was called, benson? Yeah, I like that show. I remember watching that Happy Days. I remember watching that. I don't remember watching any like Dynasty or anything like that you didn't have two sisters in the house that were older.

Speaker 1:

Well, I had my mom and my aunt Bonnie and they'd whoop you, no, yeah, they'd whoop you, yeah, and my mom and my aunt Bonnie, I mean that stuff went on, but I don't remember ever watching it Like. But I don't remember ever watching it Like my grandparents would watch TV in their room Like they'd watch Hee Haw. They loved that shit.

Speaker 2:

They might've been watching porn. No, the door was open. That's even creepier now.

Speaker 1:

I think Hee Haw was their porn.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, her shirt's got a little drawer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean that was. That's all I ever. I don't remember any of that like fricking ever, like none of those shows, but I like nowadays do they have soap operas in the daytime anymore? Do they do that?

Speaker 2:

I'm sure they do, but I don't know of any. I feel like a reality TV replaced soap operas for the for women, I bet them soap operas are still out there, you think so for women, I bet them soap operas are still out there, you think so, oh, they were hooked on too tight? I guarantee there are really.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah yeah, I don't know like they were so stupid, though the storylines were so dumb.

Speaker 2:

You're like oh my god, yeah, I don't know my mom watched them, but you look at my sisters and my mom and you're like they're all intelligent, you know what I'm saying and then you think he was watching his shit like the storylines are so stupid like the one okay, guy gets killed or whatever. A couple months later his twin brother comes back and all this shit. You're like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

so they're just like basically fighting, fighting with them, and don't want to pay him his money or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know what the hell he comes back with, uh, with his twin brother johnny newman just said that, uh, young, and the restless is still on how's he done?

Speaker 1:

yeah, johnny, how do you know? Are you watching that? Yeah, I think most of young women now don't do that anymore. I think they watch like reality tv and stuff now I think, more than they watch soap operas, I don't know. Well, women aren't sitting at home anymore either.

Speaker 2:

Right, you know what I mean. They're at work.

Speaker 1:

They're at work. So those daytime things, they're very limited people to watch those anymore.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'd say yeah, you're right, a lot of women are out there, yeah they're working now.

Speaker 1:

Back then they didn't as much.

Speaker 2:

I mean, there was ones that did, but yeah, no, my mom worked and she still watched them because it was after she got home soap operas were really. I thought they were like at noon or something there was some at noon and it was somewhere later on. Really some at night.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, like I know, like dynasty and all that was. But like the, the, like the real ones, like young and the restless and guiding light and all that stuff that was like daytime wasn't it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was like three or something, four yeah really, I thought it was like noon, I don't remember, but I know we used to have them on our tv all the time randy can't live without his gh.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what gh is. That's tarina my cousin. I don't know what gh is, though you know what gh is. I don't know what GH is, though Do you know what GH is. I'm sure she's going to say Johnny Newman said I grew up watching all that stuff in an interrupted Little Rascals. Yeah, I loved Little.

Speaker 2:

Rascals too. I love me some Little Rascals.

Speaker 1:

I like the road where they had the big giants and shit, the big old peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and shit. I like the Three Stooges, Little Rascals. I loved all that stuff.

Speaker 2:

I was into the westerns man GH's General Hospital. Oh yeah, yeah, all right, all right, all right. Yeah, that was the main one too. Yeah, I remember that we watched that one. That was like one of the main ones that was one of the main ones.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, for sure, I thought Young and the Restless was. I didn't know it was huge. I'm like, oh my God, these people act like it's for real.

Speaker 2:

It was bigger than the Diane wedding. It was huge when Prince Charles came. Luke and Laura.

Speaker 1:

Luke and Laura. I remember those names Luke and. Laura, I remember that that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

They were like that was a big thing, man. I was like holy shit, it was like the whole world was invited to their wedding. I was like holy shit, the whole world was invited to their wedding. I was like this is nuts.

Speaker 1:

That don't make no damn sense. That's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Then he died a week before, and then his twin brother took over. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1:

Now the new soap operas are just watching the real shit. On Victor Newman he said I don't know who that is. That sounds familiar, though.

Speaker 2:

Luke the Lord, that shit's funny.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, victor Newman does sound familiar, but now it's the days it's like watching. They watch real life shit going on like on their social medias and stuff like this what's her name? Remember we were throwing. I said somebody needs to get rid of that. What's her Gypsy needs? Somebody needs to get rid of, uh, that. What's her gypsy Rose? She needs to get rid of her fat.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, she got rid of them already. For real.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's. Now she's with another weirdo that she was. It's so apparently she was like dating a guy in prison and then started dating this one. And then, yeah, she in prison and then started dating this one and then, yeah, she went back to the one she was dating prior to this one in prison, like and I, and now she's all over social media showing her, like, showing hanging out with him or whatever did you see that one where that girl married, or that guy married a girl with two heads?

Speaker 1:

yeah, my wife showed me that, yeah, the girl, well, that she was real, like she had her own show too, like, or they had their own show. The two, the two, somebody, I, yeah, people are fucked up too.

Speaker 2:

I saw a tiktok that said this is the only they.

Speaker 1:

I was like what the hell how does that work? Now there's two of them. What is? How does that work? That's that's. But I don't understand, like, I don't like. How do you marry one? Only? He only married one. He didn't marry a girl with. How do you marry one? Only he only married one. He didn't marry a girl with two heads, he married one of the two girls with it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy, that's weird.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it is weird.

Speaker 1:

How is it one? I mean, I get it, but that's weird, that's really weird.

Speaker 2:

It's definitely different. What the hell. But, yeah, that one was wild. People are horrible on that one.

Speaker 1:

That's fucked up, oh yeah, it's definitely horrible, that's like.

Speaker 2:

There's things you make fun of and there's things you don't.

Speaker 1:

It's just like come on, yeah, yeah there's not much, but you worry about people like much I mean. But you worry about like people like that I do. Anyways, I think like there's got to be something wrong with the guy that wants that. You know what I mean. Like something seems, I mean. I guess maybe you fall in love and do it, but like maybe he just has a fetish for like weird shit. You know what I mean. Like it's.

Speaker 2:

I don't know Well what I mean.

Speaker 1:

like it's, I don't know it's well, maybe they're happy, whatever, hopefully well, two, and what about the other one, the other head that's over there going? Are you guys done yet?

Speaker 2:

no, it's. They joined in probably what else can you do? You're stuck there, I don't know well, how does it?

Speaker 1:

do you know? Have you looked into her? Like is she? I mean she like, like, how much do they like? What do they have two of and what do they? I know they have two heads, but I think they only have two arms, two legs. I don't think they have like anything else.

Speaker 2:

twos I wonder who controls the legs, because they walk. You know what I'm?

Speaker 1:

saying yeah. I don't know how that works.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, that's a weird one, but I know that they that. Hopefully they're happy.

Speaker 1:

Those ones can't be separated.

Speaker 2:

I don't think Right.

Speaker 1:

No, I think one would have to be killed off basically for one to survive. I think is the way that one worked. Yeah, there's, I don't know, or no, maybe even. Maybe they can't even do that. I think that maybe it was like because, like the way they're controlling different parts that you need, I think, if I remember something weird about that one Because that was a show, there was a whole show. Amanda used to not really watch it, but I would see it on here and there coming through when she was watching all her, because she likes anything that's on that. The hell is that channel she watches, with all the crazy shit, with all the truth and reality. I forget what the hell it's called now I can't remember, not Lifetime, but what's the other one.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but yeah, that's a strange, I don't know. Hopefully they're happy, whatever.

Speaker 1:

Johnny Newman, he's a minute man. He said close your eyes, it'll be over in a minute. That's horrible. Yeah, how does that even work? I can't even imagine the whole. I don't know man, it's nuts.

Speaker 2:

I've seen it and I'm like what the hell Is this real?

Speaker 1:

We went after. We went after, uh, uh we went and posted all the, all the little clips. That was pretty funny, Do you see it of? Of? Uh, Tony, to mock you, Listen. First of all the weed part. It was weed, it was weed. Madhouse Bartok.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, okay. No, you and the mouse in your pocket, but yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, they released the video. I mean it's released Like it was released and there was like a little barcode you could scan in a paper, watch the whole entire video.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Of him being arrested. Well, you know what? Yeah of him being arrested. Well, you know what the thing that's crazy about it is? It's kind of like I hate to say it kind of want to complain about cops too much because I like cops, but I think they gave him special privilege. Oh, for sure, I mean, if you get a DUI at the gas station and drive into the pipe.

Speaker 2:

They're called the Mr DeMacchia.

Speaker 1:

Well, not only that, they freaking don't even put him in jail, they just let us, like they tell me they're going to have his wife come get him, and then I think his parents actually came and got him and like let his wife come get the car. Like they just Wow, yeah, he never went to jail, nothing, he just like, literally. I mean he has to go to court for it and all that.

Speaker 2:

What city was that?

Speaker 1:

Lorraine Wow, lorraine, yeah, yeah, it's right. There at that, it was right there at that gas station right across from the hospital.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they didn't ever arrest him, nothing Like. I mean, they went in and booked him and had him pick him up, that's it. He never had to go into jail, nothing.

Speaker 2:

Well, sometimes that's how it is, really yeah. No, not for DUIs, yeah, no they put you in there to let you get sober, not if you ain't driving, he was driving. I'm talking about after they had people pick you up. I don't think that's a big deal.

Speaker 1:

I don't know of anybody that's happened to.

Speaker 2:

You know people that that's happened to. Yeah, you go through all the things. That's it. It's not that big a deal. What?

Speaker 1:

are they going to hold you?

Speaker 2:

for.

Speaker 1:

For DUI. Make you bond out. Yeah, bond out.

Speaker 2:

If you bond out right, then you just get out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't even think they bonded out. They just said let them pick them up. You can't get bonded out until you go in front of a judge and get a bond. Dude, you have to go in front of a judge and the judge has to set bail, and then you can get bonded out. I don't know about that. Yeah, he should have been mug shot, I agree. I think he got special privilege in that.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I bet he got he's not, he's not unbusted.

Speaker 1:

He's not what he got, he's not. He's not unbusted, he's not. He will when he goes to court and all that and whatever he has to do Eventually at some point. I'm sure he'll get on there, but yeah, he won't. Yeah, I mean, it's just I don't know. I think he got special privilege.

Speaker 2:

I agree with you there.

Speaker 1:

You see the way he was talking to him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it was definitely a special privilege, I wouldn't have got treated that way. That's all I'm saying I wouldn't have got treated that way they would have said sit on the curb, shut the fuck up. No, I'm just kidding, they probably would have they would have handcuffed me right then, for sure.

Speaker 1:

Well, did you see the kid that got pulled over for DUI?

Speaker 2:

got arrested for DUI and charged with DUI?

Speaker 1:

Which one and where was it? Was it Iowa, I think? 20-year-old kid, college kid athlete got pulled over. They're having him do the sobriety check and he's killing it, by the way but he's not listening to anything. They say for the most part, like they're telling him take nine steps, he took 11. But perfect, you know what I mean. They're like well, why are you he's not listening? Why did he take 11? And he's like dude, pull out the breathalyzer. They never give him the breathalyzer and give him a DUI because he doesn't listen to the instructions properly, even though he's clearly. And now he got paid for it.

Speaker 2:

He was probably being a little rebellious, that's all.

Speaker 1:

Well, he was irritated because clearly he was sober. Dude, you could see clear as day the kid's sober. You could obviously see he's sober. They're telling him to walk the line and he's like. He walked like 11 steps and they're like why didn't you do this? Why didn't you call him out loud? Like I said, it's like your 20-year-old kid. You just got pulled over. You're nervous as shit, like you're trying to listen. I mean it's bullshit. It shouldn't be that way. That's just a bunch of bullshit. And then, yeah, and then Tony DiMocchio, they're just like you know, whatever He'll, let you do your thing.

Speaker 2:

Okay, sir.

Speaker 1:

Did they give?

Speaker 2:

him a sobriety test?

Speaker 1:

I don't know what the test he refused to blow? Did they give him a sobriety test? I didn't see one in the video and I watched it If he ain't totally, 100% guilty.

Speaker 2:

on that, this court system's messed up.

Speaker 1:

He might have just been tired. He might be just a hard worker that was tired and fell asleep Up against the gas pump.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

He might have been it's a possibility. Just like them. Ballots, well. Well, I don't know it's, it's, it's really weird, though I mean it's, it's, it's. I just don't like. I, I just don't like special yeah, the favor to them yeah, I mean I've had to do the sobriety test, you know, and I luckily at the time I had had two beers that day, but it was over like four hours or three hours or something and I got pulled over.

Speaker 1:

That was because my friends put the cellophane. I remember that my my uh, when I had the convertible Sebring and my friends saran wrap the whole fricking car. So to be a smart ass, I just poked a hole hole in it, sat in between them and drove down. Just drove away, the cops pulled me over and then they give me a sobriety test, which I passed. I was fine, but yeah I don't know it was, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Not good, yeah well seems like that tony's going to a downward spiral.

Speaker 1:

He, he sure does. There's bigger fish to fry in the world right now. Oh yeah, I mean he's just doing like you say. He's on a downward spiral. He needs to get his shit together.

Speaker 2:

All he got to do is go get his little treatment rehab. Think about shit, stop doing stupid.

Speaker 1:

And stop, yeah, trying to beat it. That's the biggest problem, I think, with most people is they don't want to admit that they're having problems. They just want to like they think everybody's just coming down too hard on them or whatever.

Speaker 2:

It's nitpicking kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, everybody's just nitpicking this and that and they don't want to just admit I did wrong. You know what I mean. You know it, just it. Just that's just how that's most of people's problems until they correct themselves Deflection. Usually, once they correct it, it's because they've come to grips with what's really going on. Typically that's how it goes anyways, and that's what I think he needs to do is come to grips with this as something that you know was within him. It's not anybody else that's being the asshole, or you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

That's what I said the other day, remember, I told you.

Speaker 1:

What'd you say?

Speaker 2:

How I was going to start acting.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm, yeah, you came to grips with it. Yeah, really.

Speaker 2:

I came to grips. I am an asshole. I'm not going to change, not. No, you said you were little bit of a liar.

Speaker 1:

That was a white lie.

Speaker 2:

One of those white lies? Yeah, we talked about that. I said I'm going to be nicer to people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, and you gave up on that already.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm always nice.

Speaker 1:

It's funny because, jessica you came in, you were so mad about something, jessica did I forget what it was. You're talking shit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, was she talking shit? And you were angry and you're like and I've been being nice to her lately.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what she said she goes. She said something. I said something and I I forget what it was and I go, I go. You said what guido go off on you? No, it was. She was saying something about, she was telling one of the new girls about you or something. And then I said, but Guido don't like her and she goes. No, he's been really nice to me lately and I go. And it was right after you told me that, like like the day before you had told me that or something, I go. He's nice to you, like lately, lately, like recently, she goes. Just now he was a little bit ago I go really.

Speaker 2:

I was just now, he was a little bit ago. I go really. Yeah, I go, what the hell.

Speaker 1:

I didn't go in on her. I was shocked. I was like what the hell? She was too. But what are we going to do if we go to war? What are you going to do about that?

Speaker 2:

What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

what am I going to do? I mean, what are we going to do? What's? What are we going to war?

Speaker 2:

it's gonna be our military, new military. We have nothing to do with it what if they come this way?

Speaker 1:

dude, it's freaking crazy right now. What's going on, like they're like freaking building up on I, on israel, like iran yesterday sent like I forget how many they said like drones that they had. Iran attacked israel yesterday, last night. Then I mean America's kind of got to protect Israel. So now, like now, what are you doing? I mean it's like that Middle East it's ready to explode and the worst part is Israel's like the only country, it's like just Israel, and then everybody around them doesn't want nothing to do with them. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't know what the hell is going to happen today.

Speaker 1:

They even said Russia's got fricking troops built up on for, dude, it's bad, it's it's it's bad. Then then Putin was making some kind of talking about nuclear war again. You know what I mean. But see, you know what? One thing that happened that really kind of probably put the kibosh on, that china came out and was like, yeah, that he didn't. They didn't say russia specifically, but they said if you're talking, if you're threatening with nuclear war, that can never happen. And that they basically based, told them shut that down, shut that down now. Yeah, because china's like his biggest ally, you know what, what I mean, but that's the biggest. That's to me. That's like, because I, what'd you start?

Speaker 2:

You can't come back from that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, you just can't, no that's, that's, and it's not a winnable war. There's nothing you can do to win that. There's nothing you can do. It's just not possible. But I'm pretty sure it's going to happen. I think World War III is like. I mean you're all of Europe's planning it right now. I mean it's. I think World War III is inevitable at this point. I think it's happening, I think, and the Middle East has been building, for I mean this has been going on since the you know like what early nineties, late eighties. I mean that it's been like just building and building, and building and building, and that's just it's time to erupt. I think, and I don't think that you have the right president in control. I mean he's too wishy-washy and he's just not that. I think he's caused problems.

Speaker 2:

You know what?

Speaker 1:

I mean Not standing where he should, and you know, I don't know, but definitely, definitely is not a good situation and it's I mean. I mean what are you going to do? And that's that could be horrible, and what? What would it be like if they come here Like well, I mean I get it, like it's, it's, this is the roughest place in the world to come to, because it's far away.

Speaker 1:

first of all, Well, yeah, we're standalone for the most part. You don't have anybody. That's real close. I mean Russia's pretty close, but they got to come through the cold and through Alaska type stuff. But I mean either way, I mean it's like once you get into the United States, I mean everybody's armed Everybody.

Speaker 2:

We've got hillbillies, They'll take care of it. Yeah, but I mean you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

they come in, like, like, if they come in like they were. They ain't getting that far, like if you're talking like pistols, don't help you with like missiles and rockets and they ain't getting all that close. You don't think so, mm-mm, never. You don't think so, mm-mm, never. You don't think it'll ever happen? Mm-mm, I think it will. I don't. I think that nuclear is something that they don't want to happen, but I think they're okay with throwing bombs. I believe that.

Speaker 2:

Man, you know we got some kind of defense out there.

Speaker 1:

They ain't going to reach here? Do we have anything like Israel?

Speaker 2:

Israel's frickin' Iron Dome is amazing. I'm sure they do. They probably got shit here.

Speaker 1:

We don't even know about? Well, we don't. That's the problem with the new technology, like, where do they come? That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

See, they don't even have to have a missile to counteract a missile. They could use a laser.

Speaker 1:

now, A laser, just a laser, does it. I know they said they were taking out the drones.

Speaker 2:

And then they got man, they got lasers to cut trees. Now, that was pretty slick.

Speaker 1:

No, I know, but they were saying they're like with the drones, like that's how they're doing the. I guess that's it. Some of those drones that got taken out were taken out by the ones that I ran, Just, I guess were taken out by American ships with lasers, I guess.

Speaker 2:

The drones were. There's got to be some. Honestly, it would have to be terrorists in the infrastructure, like in already.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that have been coming across the border for the last. How many you know what I mean. Yeah, for the last year that can buy guns anytime they want, anywhere they want.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's where it will come from. It won't come from, and they know that everybody knows that I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I think that that's a sad, that's, that's. I think that, um, thinking you know anything is a is a stupid move, in my opinion, right, but I think that's how it would be.

Speaker 2:

It'd be from it within.

Speaker 1:

It won't be missiles coming in and all that I don't know, obvious with long-range missiles and stuff now and, like I said, you got other missiles that It'll be from within.

Speaker 2:

It won't be missiles coming in and all that shit I don't know With long-range missiles and stuff now, and, like I said, you got other missiles that'll hit that missile or you got lasers that'll hit that missile?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but what happens when they can make them to hide them as they come in? You know what I mean? Because that's what I mean. You've got that going on. Yeah, we have a ship with lasers over there right now, brian. They said that ship is what hit some of those Iran drones that went over there, some of them.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying. We got some stuff. Like I said, I don't think it'll be like that, I don't think it'll come in, I think it'll be already in, like they might be setting a bomb up right now somewhere.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. It'll be from within. No, it's you that would make the most sense, but I wouldn't know anything. There's anything that could be a possibility? Anything I mean, there's nothing that that I mean yeah, look at 9-11.

Speaker 2:

They took over the plane.

Speaker 1:

It's something, it's it's whatever right that's that's the biggest mistake you can make in war is thinking you know what they're gonna do, what the attack is gonna be. You can't. You got a plan forever. Any possible thing that you could think of, they can think of.

Speaker 2:

But I'm saying I honestly don't believe it's going to be coming in, it's already in.

Speaker 1:

You think it's already here already?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1:

You think the sleeper cells are still here, for sure, you think that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't think they're going to. Hey, let's throw some bombs over there. Hey, let's throw some bombs over there. That ain't going to happen. It's a waste of time. That's not going to.

Speaker 1:

Maybe they use it as a distraction, but that ain't what's going to happen. I don't know. I don't think that that's, I don't think any of it's unheard of. I think anything could happen, you're right. I mean anything could happen If you get. If you get like like we've got our, our stealth bombers and stuff, now they, they get stealth drones that just come in. I mean you, it could be anything, dude. And and then, like we say we are there with the technology, but we don't. I mean you're telling me our technology is better than everybody else in the world, but that doesn't mean they don't figure out one thing that's better, that's a and that. And once it takes it, all it takes is for the wrong, you know like.

Speaker 1:

Russia or somebody? Oh yeah, You're not. I'm not saying you're wrong to think that. I just think that you have to be prepared for everything, I think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm sure they are. For that part, they probably focus so much on that. They ain't focusing on the inside.

Speaker 1:

And there's probably like there's probably a weak spot that they feel you would come in and in in the united states. I'm sure there is. I'm sure they think that there's a spot that's the the weak spot to come in. You know what I mean. Like coming in, like like we went into normandy. Even though normandy wasn't weak, it was the weakest. That was our best link in you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

you know what's? The biggest news thing right now is that diddy shit and I ain't been paying attention to it.

Speaker 1:

I was kind of tired of it yeah, diddy's like, now it's world war after yesterday, after iran attacked israel, that's, that's the news story right now. That's that's it. That's that's like because world war three is at the cusp. That's I mean. It's like, yeah, that's scary, you know. And the problem is with those wars like that, nothing gets resolved. Right, you know what I mean. That's that's what happened. World war ii nothing, I mean. World war ii, I guess things got resolved, I guess to some degree, like japan's is like they never went against us again. You know what I mean. But russia, who was our ally at that time, has been against us ever since. So I don't know, it's weird. Nothing in, nothing out. It's all a distraction.

Speaker 1:

Everyone wants to port, wants the ports. Well, yeah, that's yeah, you want the ports. That's, that's immediate. Or you build your own. That's that's what we did in Normandy. That was the whole point of Normandy is, we came in and we built our own port right there. They basically built floating docks to bring shipping so they can bring ships in and bring all of our equipment and everything in. At Normandy, they just made makeshift ships that they floated over here from, I guess, england or something, I don't know where it was, but I mean, I just wonder where they think that weak point is, I don't know enough about it, but I wonder what it would be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I ain't turning on the news. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I'd catch my shit on the TikToks or whatever. Yeah, I think that most people are getting their news that way anymore. I think that's why the news like they actually have their own TikToks.

Speaker 2:

Well, workers, people that are working, are working so much. It's like like you. How often do you get home? No, not very often.

Speaker 1:

And then when I am home I have stuff to do. I'm like like yesterday I was home, I was getting together everything for Scotty's over there trying to figure all that up. You know what I mean? The border of mexico, yeah, that's the easiest way in. He's right, they got an open door. Yeah, I mean it's like. It's like mafia shit, you know, like like mafia type stuff. Mexico, who's our friend? You know, maybe that's gonna be going to be like like, uh, you know Barzini, he's like working a deal with them.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh yeah, and then let's a man, and then just such a greedy country, God that's what Cuba did. I mean, that's what Cuba was doing when they let Russia bring missiles in back in the sixties you know, that's scary, it's a scary thought to even think about.

Speaker 1:

You know, I I mean, could you imagine that's? It's nuts like to see, I mean to see war in your own country. Like I mean other people other around the world. They see it in their own country all the time. That's not uncommon in a place like israel or baghdad or you know what I mean, any of those. But Ukraine, russia, that's just not. And here, like we just don't see it.

Speaker 1:

Like we just never in our lifetime we haven't seen it. We haven't seen it for even World War II, any of that. We didn't see it here. You know what I mean Not on our own soil, not like in front of us, not like when you watch like that, like civil war movies and stuff, and they're talking about you know the, the, uh, their, their backyard, you hear cannons going off. You know what I'm saying, like that's, that's scary shit, you know, having that all happen right in your own land.

Speaker 2:

But I mean, at some point I think right now we have a better chance than we will in the future. Like I'm glad it's, I ain't glad, but I'd rather it happen now than 10, 15 years from now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, the problem is, I'll tell you why? Because all the guys will have purses by then here, well you know that's part of the why I think they might come and attack us.

Speaker 2:

Why.

Speaker 1:

Because I mean, look at who's. To the rest of the world, the people that are running are, I mean, we've got people in office that are transgender, like military people that are transgender that like, is a guy wearing a skirt in office, and to the rest of the world that shows like they think that Weakens us. They think that in their head they think that they're weak, whether they are or not. I don't I'm not saying he's smart general, I don't know what he is, but into the rest of the world they see that as weak. They see it as an opportunity to get in and they feel like they can outthink them or what. You know what I'm saying? And, quite frankly, if you're transgender and you're running any branch of the military, you're, there's something wrong with you. You shouldn't be allowed, in my opinion, mentally you shouldn't be allowed to run any branch of the military. I mean, I just you're going to get some controversy.

Speaker 1:

I don't care. I mean, there's something that the problem is is that nobody wants to admit that there's a mental health issue. When you think you're a girl, you know what I'm saying, right. And if your emotions and mentality can't deal with, Reality.

Speaker 1:

Reality. How do you run the country or run anything in this? You know what I'm saying. Like that doesn't and I'm talking military, specifically like that. This is yeah, I never heard of that. You've never seen that. What? What's her name? What's his her? I don't know what the hell. Yeah, I'll show it to you whenever we're done, I'll find it for you. That's crazy. Yeah, you never seen that. Oh, yeah, and that's.

Speaker 1:

And the other thing is, there's women too, like I think, like biden has, like, I think his like, out of his top, like 10, I think, three are like women and one's a transgender, and I, and to the rest of the world, that's they, they're afraid, like the rest of the world thinks that that's crazy. You know what I'm saying. Like those countries like like, uh, I don't know what, what like russia or uh, china, or they just look at that as like that's, like they, they see that as us being weak and that they can beat us. Period. Bill said look at, they've got it. That's part of the plan. They said. But you know, I mean, who knows what the plan? I don't know, but I mean I think that that in the face of the world, I think it looks bad.

Speaker 2:

Well, with all the stuff going on, you know why are they just letting people come across that border like that?

Speaker 1:

Because Trump wanted a wall. So now he has to do the anti-Trump thing and not have a wall. It doesn't make sense. The Democrats were the ones that were like in Clinton's era. That was who was fighting to stop illegal immigration. The Democrats did Now, all of a sudden, because Trump, as a Republican, decides that he wants to stop immigration All of a sudden. Now it's like you can't do that. That's the worst thing you could possibly do, even though that's what they've done their whole life, but you couldn't come to Canada like that you couldn't come through Canada like how they're doing through Mexico.

Speaker 1:

No, no, because Canada controls their borders. They don't put up with no bullshit. Yeah, canada don't play.

Speaker 2:

But that's what I'm saying, without the political end of it. I'm just saying you already know that shit's going on over there. You know what I'm saying. So why wouldn't you just make sure that fucking border is secure? That's all yeah it doesn't make sense. It's making it seem like why is this such a big problem? How can our military not stop people from just coming across?

Speaker 1:

They can In fact Texas put put down there, and then Biden sent guardsmen down there to try and stop them from stopping them from stopping them. Yeah, that's that I mean. That's just doesn't make any damn sense. It doesn't make any damn sense at all, they're they want to protect and it's their state.

Speaker 2:

They should be able to protect their border. I heard nothing else about that I should look into that one. I don't know about.

Speaker 1:

I don't think like they really stopped texas from doing it no, they were cutting down some fencing those that they put up because they were putting up. Texas was putting up their own border wall and they started cutting it down. It was just like chain link. That's all just at eagle pass, though they're only doing that like at that eagle pass for real.

Speaker 2:

They cleared that whole field out so they could see everybody coming across and stopping them and everything else yeah they wasn't, and it wasn't that much like it didn't take much to do.

Speaker 1:

It is what I'm saying no, it just takes the effort. You know what trump saying he wanted a wall was enough that nobody even attempted it, because most of those people that are coming in aren't Mexicans. They're usually like coming through Mexico, across from Venezuela or or South America somewhere. They did, but they don't know. But that's legal though. That's all legal, tarina. That's the problem. Nobody has a problem. We have an agreement with Mexico to let to come in legally. We have that same green agreement, but they're not following by it. They're just coming across the border and then they're making up that.

Speaker 2:

well, man, there was this big thing on that uh app that you didn't have to like check in you.

Speaker 1:

You didn't have to check in, you, just had to fill this stuff out onto some stupid app that didn't even work. No, he's going to load up his smoker. He said he ain't got time to listen to us. Oh, he ain't got time for us. He ain't got time for us, he's smoking some ribs. He said Bill loves to fuck with his briskets and ribs.

Speaker 2:

Who's?

Speaker 1:

that Bill McCoy. He was a carpenter I worked with for a long time. You met him actually when we were working, when you came and worked with us for a little bit at that job right across from the Ohio Theater in Cleveland, he was the one who had cancer At the time. He had just had tongue cancer. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2:

He was the had just had tongue cancer.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no, no. He was the one that had tongue cancer I'm talking about with Joe. You came and worked with me a little bit. He had just had tongue cancer, he had just had surgery.

Speaker 2:

That was me and your brother, right.

Speaker 1:

Mm-mm. No, I'm talking about when you came and worked with Joe For that little bit of time. We were framing out that uh, 11 story apartment building right across from ohio theater. Just so you came and worked for just a I don't know, maybe a week. He didn't work long, but he was there, he was. He was there at the time. Yeah, he had.

Speaker 1:

He's had cancer twice. He was. He had cancer when it wasn't like when it was no joke to afghan, when he was 17 years old in the 70s he was like 70s, early 80s, something like that. He was like had to go to the cleveland clinic and be there for two years. Wow, you know what I mean. Like he went through it when he was young, like where he lost all his hair and like bad, and then he had it again, like he was fine for years and then he got it again. Um, probably about 11 years ago, 12 years ago, something like that. He got it again and he had to cut a portion of his tongue out and he was having trouble speaking and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1:

He good now, right now, he seems to be pretty good. Yeah, I mean he's a little bit of an asshole, but he's pretty good yeah, he's, I mean he's a he's, he's a little bit of an asshole, but he's pretty good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he ain't got time for us. I know that.

Speaker 1:

I mean, he's really like, if you call him right now and bullshit him, go hang out with him. He's a cool dude, he's fine, but when you get on a job site he can be an asshole to everybody. I don't know what it is. He just came up from that old school.

Speaker 2:

I was going to say people got that fucking switch in them when they go to work. They're assholes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he's like that, that's who he is for sure.

Speaker 2:

But some people just like they want to get it done, get it done right and get the hell out of there. You know what I'm saying. So when they get there, they're just focused on getting it done, getting it done right.

Speaker 1:

Well, bill's one of those guys. He's brother kevin's real lazy and it makes kevin actually better. But I bet that, yeah, because he's not going to put any extra work like bill will not cheat anything. He will do everything. Like he will never cut a piece of drywall that doesn't get rasped when he cuts a stud. He'll take his time and make sure there's no chance you're going to like catch a burr on it when you're done.

Speaker 1:

Or I mean it's just, he's just always and he's always been that way. You know what I mean and it's it makes him slower and it. But he's very like he does everything particular. Yeah, he does. He does a very good job at what he does. He just gets on everybody's nerves because he'll talk shit about them taking shortcuts. At the end of the day, it's about getting paid. I mean, you got to take, not shortcuts, but you can't take that much time to cut a stud and if the drywall is going to fit, you don't need to rasp it. You know what I mean? Or it's just. It's just, it's silly, it's just that's, but that's how he is you know, it's like the old jake love if it fit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 1:

Well, he actually he actually. He actually was a laborer first for his dad back when his dad had his big company, and then, when I topped out as a journeyman, he became a carpenter, but he served an apprenticeship. He was actually my apprentice actually. So he actually served his apprenticeship with me most of it a big part of it anyway but he already had so much experience at that point and his dad owned the company so it made it like hard, you know, I mean because he didn't listen to shit. He said, yeah, clearly it was like I remember wade one time said something about why are you taking my studs? Because, like we would have to go. We were half, we were doing a dialysis center and we would have to go get these studs and bring them over where we were working and cutting them as we go and Bill just grabs his studs instead of going to get his own, just being an asshole because that's who he was and he's like dude, why are you taking my studs? And Bill's like they're all my studs. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1:

He's all my studs, like you know I mean, he's just how he is, it's just it's who he is, it's just, I mean. But like I say, good dude, but at work he can definitely be an asshole, no question about it. No, no question. I don't know anybody that flips a switch like that when they go to work. Not that much, I mean. Everybody does maybe. But you know, different people have different things. I remember my ex-father-in-law would go golfing and he was very straight-laced, like you know, salesman type thing, that golf boy. But he get on a golf course. That motherfucker turned into tupac.

Speaker 2:

He thugged the fuck out dude.

Speaker 1:

He started walking with a limp and shit like I'm like who the fuck is this guy?

Speaker 2:

you know that tapping Tours coming out, that's pretty popular around here.

Speaker 1:

What is it?

Speaker 2:

Tappan, it's called Tappan Tour. What is that it's a tour they do like a golf tournament. They do every year.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, it's a golf, so you go to different ones or something. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

They go to one, they rent out the golf course or times or whatever, and then they have a big old thing. Every year they do it different golf courses around here.

Speaker 1:

Really.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't know all the details of it, but all my uncles get involved. My nephew's doing it this year with my dad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I always like going to golf outings. You ever went to a golf outing?

Speaker 2:

Man, me and Vern used to go golfing. I didn't like it.

Speaker 1:

You like going to golf outings. You ever went to a golf outing man. Me and Vern used to go golfing.

Speaker 2:

I didn't like it. You didn't like golfing. I like it, but I don't know.

Speaker 1:

But what about outings though I'm talking about? They're fun like scrambles, because a scramble, the way it works is there's four of you and then I don't know the best, you play the best ball. Only you know what I mean. So I mean they're fun and you're just drinking and having a good time, and they usually feed you. They're always fun. I always like golf outings.

Speaker 2:

I just never really got involved in it. Maybe if I did, Like when I got in the pool I was really good and that was a lot of time. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

It took time. Yeah, golf definitely takes pride. You'll never master golf. That's the chase You'll never master that shit.

Speaker 2:

See, I don't agree with you, I'm just good at what I do.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead, then Get to work, nah.

Speaker 2:

I see the years my dad put it at my uncles and shit and they're all good. But I'm like they're real good. I'm like, eh, it'd take too many years to do that shit yeah, you got to.

Speaker 1:

Constantly it becomes your life and that's an expensive-ass sport to do too.

Speaker 2:

Man, they're older, you know what I'm saying, and they're fucking killing it out there and I'm like damn.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, anthony puts in the time for it. He's pretty good too. Actually, him and Jay are both pretty good, okay, but he's been the same thing. He's been doing that shit for years, him and Jabe, I mean. Every time they get a free minute, half the time they call off for work. That's what they're going to do. They're bullshitting and they're like fuck.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my belly. And then you ain't got pictures on Facebook.

Speaker 1:

Oh, look at this hole Fuck. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, they definitely like their golf. I yeah, pretty much. Yeah, they definitely like their golf. I don't know about, I don't know if Anthony calls off. For that reason I'm assuming he, I guarantee he has. But Jay, I think, does it a lot.

Speaker 2:

Jay don't probably care, he's like I'm doing it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, jay don't. Yeah, he's something I don't know. Well, anthony's got to pass because, like, they accept him not coming in when he can't come in because of his heart or whatever. So they just kind of accept it for what it is and that's just how it is, I guess. But, jay, definitely they get weirded out. Yeah, they get irritated with him because there's no reason for him not to come.

Speaker 2:

Bullshit, he had to play golf.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but that's it. It's his reason. He literally, jay, will literally call off and say I got a bellyache. I swear to God, as a grown man, you know what I mean. In his 40s he'll be like my tummy hurts. I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2:

I don't call off much work. You know I'm not going to make it, but if I wake up and I got a bellyache or something, I'm not driving a fucking concrete truck, any truck, so you'd call off for a tummy ache. I'm not going to have the shits in a truck. No, it's not happening. You're fucking right. I'm calling off.

Speaker 1:

You would call off for a tummy ache. I never picked you as that type.

Speaker 2:

I never really had to, but I will, so you don't go to Georgia's before work, never, and you know what, and I don't you know. We try to support the local businesses around here and I went to Georgia's yesterday. It wasn't good, it wasn't good, it was not good.

Speaker 1:

But you go a lot and it is good.

Speaker 2:

Well, they don't have the same cooks.

Speaker 1:

They don't.

Speaker 2:

No, remember, robert used to be a cook there.

Speaker 1:

He's not there at all.

Speaker 2:

Not there at all. No kidding I don't think so, but them who gets a runny omelet.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you had a runny omelet. Yeah, that's not good.

Speaker 2:

And then this other girl I know was there, she had a runny omelet. His was so bad he had. I told him. I said he didn't want to say nothing. I said, hey, that omelet, you know, a little lady's trying to talk us into like well, you ain't half of it, and he goes, yeah. And then I seen this and he pulls up all his wetness and shit and then she's like okay, I'll take that off.

Speaker 2:

You know, like at first she was trying to be an ass and now he was like yeah, and then I seen this and he pulled it up and she's like oh okay, I went there not too long ago, me and Keith Marsh, who just is there.

Speaker 1:

He said hi to you anyway, he's on Bar and Grill page. But we went there and everything was good. And that wasn't when he was there. Everything was.

Speaker 2:

I thought everything was great, I don't know what was going on. And then the fucking prices Crazy up.

Speaker 1:

Well, they have to dude. That's not even their fault. You can't blame them for that dude. That's what it is. I mean, never mind the food, the electric bill, like you know what? My electric bill was $1,400 this month. There's no air conditioning on right now. $1,400. It's unreal, I mean. So that's not even counting, even counting, like, the fact that food is more, and you know what I'm saying. Like they have to they, there's nothing they can do about it double shit.

Speaker 1:

They have that, dude. That's what are happening to our bills. When I first started this place, I used to an expensive week of buying food for the restaurant. We did more food back then was like twelve thirteen hundred dollars. Now a normal week is twenty three hundred dollars, I mean. So? I mean, it's not it. There's no way, dude, that's it. They have to. That's just the reality of today, and that doesn't even count utilities and everything that have skyrocketed on top of that but anyways, they can't let it cook on the grill that long.

Speaker 1:

No, and I'm sure if they lost a cook they're going to have some growing pains.

Speaker 2:

Well, that was a while ago. Robert left, it wasn't just like last week.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, when I went like I said me and him we went I got to say like two months ago. No, me and him went to Georgia's probably before it was before vacation.

Speaker 2:

maybe it was a month ago maybe, but anyways it was so bad and I'm like what the hell, I don't know I was like scotty got me some soup yesterday.

Speaker 1:

It was pretty good yeah, he goes no, no, no, not from the corner place on Oberlin Avenue right by Dizio's where the old bistro that's. It was good, it was like, but man, I put the. It had the hot oil. It's like a Chinese type thing. It was like shrimp and orientals and like it was. It was really good though it was. I smashed on that shit last night but I put too much of the hot oil in it. My mouth was on fire. That shit was good though it oil and my mouth was on fire. That was good though it was. It was really good. It didn't stop me from eating it, even though it was. It was really good.

Speaker 2:

I had to go check out some more of their different soups man, there's a little oh speaking, like you know, talk about work, and so we're delivering all this concrete to ford and this little mexican dude boy, he's about five, five, mexican dude boy, he's about 5'5". And you know, you gotta have the concept of gravity, you know what I'm saying. So if you got your chute like this, the concrete ain't gonna come out too good, right, it's gonna back up Like you're gonna get it all over the place. So he likes it high, he likes it by his chest. It's poor.

Speaker 2:

I'm like what the hell is wrong with this guy. If you take it down, he'll say huh, so. And then he wants to go super fast and he's having you back up and forward. So you're, you got, you got reaction time from when he says it to you. Right, you know what I'm saying. So he's saying that, like right now I need it to be moved up. So he's telling you now. So then you got to react, and then you got to hit the button to make it go forward. So then the truck got reaction time.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

So it's piling up on him, right. So he's like man, I'm like there's nothing I can do about it. That's you controlling the back. You know what I'm saying. So I'm like, okay, so I leave it high, let it fall all over the concrete. And then he's going back and forth, back and forth, back and forth.

Speaker 2:

So I'm like this motherfucker don't get it Like he just keeps doing this shit. I'm like all right, so I was taking my time to hit reverse, so I pile up on them. So then all these dudes are yelling at him. I was like you're gonna change, I'm gonna change it around where you look bad, not me. So I would go like this okay, reverse, then the truck got time to react and it takes tom, then he's got a pile. So the other dude's raking that shit, looking at him like what the hell you doing? I'm like quit telling us, go back and forth. You could do it if you take your time. You know what I'm saying. You don't have to us to go back and forth. You can do it if you take your time. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to have them come back and all this shit, right, right right, so I'm like you're making it worse for you guys Not me, it's you and all our drivers are pissed off at this little Mexican dude. So then we got a Mexican dude who drives with us, one of my good friends, so I said yeah. So then later on I said I said your uncle said to give you this. He said what I said a burrito.

Speaker 1:

Did he have a green card? This little Mexican guy Can he speak English?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's an asshole, everybody hates him. They're like this little motherfucker. At first he was okay and then I don't know if he's trying to impress everybody.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, dude, you're fucking up, just relax, he probably watched some TikTok that showed that when it shoots up it's better.

Speaker 2:

Man. I'm like, dude, you got it up to your chest. And he keeps like if you take it down, he'll tell you to take it up. And I'm like I'm not taking it up, no more. In other words, instead of leaning down, all he has to do is scoot up on a chute. You know what I'm saying? It's an angle, so you scoot up a little bit more, but I'm like do whatever you want, I don't care. So I just go like this, when I go to reverse, and he'll go forward. I'm like okay, fuck him.

Speaker 2:

So everybody's bitching about this guy. They're like if he get the fuck out the way, oh. And then another thing is the guy that backs us up. This guy, he's got one of them, little lights like an airport, so he goes. He's going like this, telling you to back up. Then he goes like this and he's telling you to turn and all this shit. You ain't got to do all that. Just tell me where you want the truck. You know what I'm saying. So, basically, you're trying to steer my truck. Go this way, go that way, go this way, go this way, go back, go back. And you're like what the fuck? So I'm like just point to the fucking spot you want us at.

Speaker 2:

Jesus Christ, we're just turned all the way crazy and shit. He's doing all this shit. I'm like what the fuck? This ain't a plane, bro, just fucking point where truck. It's a fucking straight shot, fucking, let me come in, fucking dump the shit.

Speaker 2:

He's gonna do this shit. You're like what the fuck? I'm like this asshole. And then you're just so frustrated. Now these dudes are just pissing you off and shit, and then they're talking shit about us. I'm like these motherfuckers are retarded.

Speaker 2:

They gotta shoot, like when we get done. So when your concrete runs out okay, there's still a little bit in the truck so they'll say you're done. So then you turn your truck on full speed, like your barrel Right, spin out fast and get all that little leftover out. So they'll be like you're done. So then you fucking put it on full speed. Before you put it on full speed, they're already scraping out your chute, telling you to leave. Now that rest of that shit ain't came out yet, right? So now you're driving to go clean out your chute and there's all kinds of shit in your chute and then we can put it in the the pit. We got to put it in a pit to get rid of it. So then they're saying you guys are filling up the pit. We're like you guys are leaving the shit in their chute. So i'm'm like these motherfuckers, I'm going to fix them this week.

Speaker 1:

They got an app forward for you to dump at.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's like four of them and they're full every day and I'm like they shouldn't be full If you scrape out the chute.

Speaker 1:

No, the concrete should be in there, right, so you just got that little residue in there. And they're paying for more concrete too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like just aggravated all day. It's just a concrete driver dilemma, I thought you had some good ones out there.

Speaker 1:

I thought, as what Out at Ford? I thought you had some good cement guys out there. They ain't our guys, no, I know, but I thought you had some good guys out there. No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

The guys. They're really happy right now. They don't have to do that shit. They're standing there just watching, oh I see, watching, oh I see. But those guys when they're doing other shit, those are good guys. I got you, I got these guys that are pouring this floor. Man, they're just that dude with that fucking. I want to shove that thing up his ass. I'm like dude. And then he's here, like there's like four lanes that you're. One truck's coming here, one truck's coming here, one truck's coming. So the one guy that's backing us up, he's telling us to go in a certain area, right, the mexican that's backing us up, he's telling us to go in a certain area, right? The Mexican that's holding my shoe wants me over here. So then, as soon as he backs me up to where he wants me to go, it sounds racist.

Speaker 1:

when you say the Mexican, can you just say the guy, the little guy.

Speaker 2:

Well, anyways, the little guy wants me to go over here. So now this guy done backed me up with all this shit all the way over here. Then this guy's like, I'm like oh, this motherfucker, it's crazy man, it's so crazy. Like the speed could be so much better if they would just just dude.

Speaker 1:

You should just record one of the instances it's like because he's can't.

Speaker 2:

It's like because he's telling me to go forward and back. I ain't got time for that.

Speaker 1:

No, you need to get your camera like set up, set up on my mirror.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I was like look at these dumb fucks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you should just set it up on there.

Speaker 2:

The little guy yeah, not the Mexican of mine that drives, he talks about him too.

Speaker 1:

Does he call him a Mexican though?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

He does.

Speaker 2:

I think he calls him Theo, Theo Uncle. I told him that too. I said Theo said he just busted out laughing. It was so funny.

Speaker 1:

I said Theo said, Theo said yeah, your.

Speaker 2:

Theo said that's funny shit.

Speaker 1:

Oh my.

Speaker 2:

God, these guys is so fucked up Like this guy will go through all this shit to back you up over here. And the other guy is like shaking his head going. You're like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

Somebody gave him that thing. They like bought it, yeah, and now he's just got to use it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm like dude, and then you can't really tell. You know what I'm saying. He's going like this. So you're like, when you're looking at it, it looks like it's going like this and you're like, where the fuck am I going? I'm like dude, just stand where you want us. That's what he should do. He should stand where he wants us and then we back up to the side of him, that's it.

Speaker 1:

That's all you got to. Is this at night, though, because you guys are doing it at 3 in?

Speaker 2:

the morning, no, because well, it is at night, but I'm saying inside the building it's dark anyways.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's just dark in there, yeah there's lights in there. So there is a reason for a lighted wand? Yeah, but it's goofy, bro, it looks like a fucking airport thing and shit.

Speaker 2:

He's all like, oh, go that way, and you you're like what the fuck? You know, like it really doesn't, our boss uh, he was, uh, we was on his job and careful what you say no, I don't give a fuck the dude.

Speaker 2:

Uh, he's. Another one of our workers is doing that shit to me. My boss got mad. He's like you ain't gotta do that, you just point to where you want them. You know like, back them straight up to where you're at. You ain't got to do that, you just point to where you want them. You know like, back them straight up to where you're at. You ain't got to do all this. You ain't driving the truck. So I'm like he's right Now. I'm looking at this guy like you ain't driving the truck.

Speaker 1:

Did you say something to?

Speaker 2:

him, yet it's close.

Speaker 1:

This week he's going to get it. Yeah, I would just tell him this is crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's just ridiculous. Like you're just, and then he like he'll go like this, and then you turn that way. And as soon as you start turning that way, he's telling you to go the other way. And then you're like what the fuck? And it's so big, you ain't got to do that. You know what I'm saying? Just stand there, I'll pull right beside you. You ain't got to do all this shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah right, you're trying to drive my truck he's trying to.

Speaker 2:

He's trying to put you on the hitch man, that dude had me fucking so hot both of them both oh the the, the, the little guy.

Speaker 1:

What was his name?

Speaker 2:

theo, theo, it was so bad man I'm like, oh, but it's just not me you get a pass, though.

Speaker 1:

I think I think puerto ricans are allowed to call mexicans mexicans white guys just. But it's just not me. You get a pass, though. I think Puerto Ricans are allowed to call Mexicans Mexicans White guys just aren't. It's just white guys that aren't allowed to do it. You know what?

Speaker 2:

the thing about when people say Mexicans don't like Puerto Ricans and all that bullshit. That's stupid. First of all, that is not true. The other thing is that that's like a Polack don't want to be called a German. You know what I'm saying? It's just two different nationalities, that's all. So when they're like, are you Mexican? They don't get mad that they're not Mexican, they get mad that. No, it's two separate things.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's not that they hate Puerto Ricans.

Speaker 2:

They just don't want you to.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they get offended when you call them Puerto Rican if they're Mexican or Mexican, Right right.

Speaker 2:

And it's not that they don't like Mexicans, it's that they're not Mexican. That's all. When people say you Mexican? No, I'm Puerto Rican, Right right.

Speaker 1:

So it kind of sounds like it is. But I'm just saying you get a pass, is all I'm saying. I think you're allowed to do that. Like we can't do that shit. I don't do that shit. Though White guys get murdered with anything they say. Do I really say anything stupid like that? I don't say racist shit, I don't.

Speaker 1:

Except for that little midget guy. No, I've never heard you say anything racist in my life. I've never. I mean I that's, but I think Lorraine's unique in that. I think that we just all kind of grew up in a melting pot, and I'm sure there's other places in the world or in the U? S that's like that, but I know in definitely in our like. If we called each other, like if we were talking about your race, it was just being funny, like just fucking with each other, and it's no different than making fun of you for being bald, you know what.

Speaker 2:

I think that's just our ignorance.

Speaker 1:

What do you mean?

Speaker 2:

Like like the way we talk is just ignorant and everybody's acceptable to it. And, Laurie, what do you mean? We say stupid shit. It's offensive.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's just the people in the rain are very offensive.

Speaker 1:

Who says it?

Speaker 2:

man, you go to other places like louisiana I'm not talking, randy teeter I'm talking about you go somewhere else and they don't talk like we do.

Speaker 1:

They find that shit offensive yeah, but they're, but they're, they're segregated.

Speaker 2:

That's why we weren't and I think they look for it. They look for something to say hey, you know, you know what I'm saying. Like they're, they're on the defense of it, you know what I'm saying, who is? And other places, like when we go around the defense of it yeah, they're waiting for somebody to say something like that and they point it out and like, here you say something, they just kind of just flow with it. You know? Like yeah, because I think we were segregated more than I think they were.

Speaker 1:

I think they were segregated more than we were. I think we were so integrated that it like yeah like when someone talks shit about a puerto rican. It almost feels like they're talking shit about you because you're from lorraine. You know, what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Like it's like, it's just these, uh, all my friends eat more rice and beans than me. I don't know. Know they're white.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I mean I've had some good ass pastas and stuff from white people too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and then I don't that racist shit, that racist card. It really aggravates me.

Speaker 1:

You think that we say I don't hear a lot of it. You hear a lot of it around here.

Speaker 2:

What.

Speaker 1:

Racist things coming out of people. Hell yeah, I don't hear it no more, like I used to.

Speaker 2:

No, no. I used to hear it a lot more, a lot more when I was younger.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when we were kids, yeah, oh yeah. When we were kids it was constant. I mean, that was constant, but I don't hear it no more ever. I really don't. I can't think of the last time I heard like something that I felt was like other than you and it forward. I mean what? The little guy. But no, I mean I just never, yeah, I never, I really don't hear it too much my friend gerald's deal, he's gonna listen to this gerald's theo.

Speaker 1:

Gerald's theo gerald's theo yeah but yeah, I mean, that's just. I don't know, I don't know if that's normal. I don't know, I don't know and I really don't know. I don't know the that's normal. I don't know, I don't know and I really don't know. I don't know the answer to that. I don't hear it no more, though. I know that, I know I did at one time and I don't anymore no, I don't really, and when I hear it, I'm offended by it yeah, I don't and I I've heard it from people that really offend me by it, but I won't put their names out there.

Speaker 1:

But there's people that I've heard things from, not lately but within the last 13 years, that have offended me. I've heard it come out of their mouth and I felt almost like how does that come out of your mouth? You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

So how are you so racist?

Speaker 1:

How am I so racist? Since when have I been racist?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, but everybody says you are.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know what that's about. I don't get that.

Speaker 2:

I've heard that shit. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

Speaker 1:

They say I don't have black people drinks in my bar. That's what they say. What the hell is black people drinks? How does that I mean? What is it that I don't have in here that makes me not have black people drinks in my bar? I don't know. I really don't know.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't matter If there's a certain drink that doesn't sell in this bar, you just don't carry it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I mean I have anything that I know of that black people drink.

Speaker 2:

What do you have that black people drink?

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean, they drink Patron, they drink Henny, they drink I don't know Same as everybody else, right, yeah, so how is it? Black people drink, I don't know Black people do drink more Henny than I. I mean that's rare. Like like, do you have Henny? Oh yeah, we have Henny, okay, cool, I mean I, I yeah. I mean it's Cognacs. I mean I mean from like why people just make up this shit and then it sticks. You know what I'm? Saying like they just make up shit and then it sticks and absolutely right.

Speaker 2:

I've heard it and I'm like how he's got black grandchildren. He's one. I'm one of his best friends, I'm like well, I grew up with my.

Speaker 1:

My mom was with the guy named herman, which was a black guy. When I was little right.

Speaker 2:

I'm like I don't. It aggravates me. It's not that I'm sticking up for you, it's just the truth is the truth.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the truth is the truth.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that just fucking aggravates me.

Speaker 1:

No, I grew up listening to rap music. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Your mom took an angel when you was younger.

Speaker 1:

He's Puerto Rican, it's just an easy Well, that's because her best friend was his mom.

Speaker 2:

That was Puerto Rican. What I'm saying. He's raised as your brother. So then you got. I'm like, how the fuck is there any part of racism comes into that? And I think it's an easy out. That's all it is.

Speaker 1:

It's easy to say to white guys racist, that's all it is, that's all it has. But they don't know me, they don't know I of that they just you know, they just assume he's a white guy, you know, and he owns a business. They don't even realize that I don't like. They probably all think I have some big ass house somewhere, like I live in a small house.

Speaker 2:

I don't have.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. Like I don't live.

Speaker 2:

I'm not living La Vida Loca by any means, but that's what they think you know I'm just saying that shit aggravates the shit out of me too my mom said now I have a sugar mama, that's called a wife.

Speaker 1:

Your mom was with herman when I met you. That's true, herman died, like last year, I think something like that.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, that, just that shit aggravates the shit out of me, because I'm like you can say a lot of things about jim, but that that's one you can't, because it's just not true and I'll point it out yeah, I mean, I am an asshole.

Speaker 1:

No, if you counted, if you took like of the people that have been barred from this bar, okay, if you took like, say I, because there's got to be what 50 that are barred from here you think that many. I bet you, I would bet money. There's 50 that are barred from here, who barred most of them. It's a mix. I mean you've barred a lot. I ain't going to say you haven't, but it's a mix. Amanda Santiago and you have barred the most For real. Amanda Santiago bars a lot of people For real.

Speaker 1:

I didn't know that she don't play, amanda, don't play, she ain't going to Hell. No, she don't play. She'll call me up like this person is not supposed to be in there and I'll be like why? And then she'll tell me the whole story. I don't even know anything about it.

Speaker 2:

See, I know the people that I've barred they probably coming in because I ain't been here. You know what I'm saying. Like they think they can sneak in, they go, giddle ain't never there now, but if there's 50, I guarantee you only probably five are black. I don't even remember any Well that I know one, the one that jumped behind the bar and all that bullshit. Who that outside on the patio? I wasn't here that day.

Speaker 1:

The jump behind the bar. Well, I know the girl that knocked over the motorcycles. Oh yeah, she was black. She was black, okay, yeah, that's what she told me. I was racist because I wouldn't serve her, even though I served all her friends that were all black, okay. And then she knocked over the motorcycles. And then the other one is that kid that was out there that Bo beat up the one that was always, but he was out there beating his girlfriend up. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget his name.

Speaker 2:

No, what about the one that jumped over the trans? That jumped over, some stuff happened.

Speaker 1:

The trans.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, something happened.

Speaker 1:

She was black.

Speaker 2:

I think yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

But anyways, I wasn't here for that.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I borrowed it, so there's three I mean that's out of 50. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, like my mom says, I can be a dick, but it doesn't make me racist, right.

Speaker 2:

Right, and that's what I was trying to get at. Yeah, to that point, my mom made it for you.

Speaker 1:

She put it out there for you. She goes I agree you can be a dick, but I mean I don't know, I don't know where it comes from. I think it's the easy out for people to just say it definitely is. You know what I mean? I know that, like of all, like there's even like people that like get called racist, that like, like, even like my uncle dale, they call him racist. He's not racist by any means. He's not. I mean he doesn't agree with sagging pants and stuff like that, but that's an age thing.

Speaker 2:

He's an older guy and he just thinks that that's disrespectful.

Speaker 1:

We should call that racist by age. What's?

Speaker 2:

that Racist by age?

Speaker 1:

It's not racist by age it is. He just doesn't like the style of it. I don't either.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, doesn't like the style of it. I don't either. Yeah, I, I just I get it. Yeah, but my I.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, but my shit sags now, my god, I'll be sagging. I try my ass, just ain't there no more.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my ass just fucking gone. I'm like god damn, I'm pulling my pants up all day long.

Speaker 1:

I told you. I think that's why my freaking kidneys hurt because I got the belt so tight trying to keep it up on my ass because I ain't got no ass, no more. Dan was here yesterday, by the way, dan, who, like my Uncle Danny, is that who he's talking about? I don't know, does my Uncle Danny even know Brian? I didn't know. He even knew Brian, like that I have to. I don't know, because Brian was like my east side friend. I was like my mom's friend's son on the east side when I met him. Yeah, he means Danny. Yeah, I think he's in the parking lot right now. Actually, brian, that's a whole other issue. Yeah, that's not made for podcasts. Why not Just go ahead? You like to put it out there? What's that? No, I don't know what he's got going on. I don't want to be involved in it. It's the last thing I need. But, yeah, my mom will probably call me anyways here in a minute. I'll get the vent there with my mom about.

Speaker 1:

Danny Good.

Speaker 2:

I want to hear it. So that thing we're supposed to be doing, you talk to him lately.

Speaker 1:

I've paid for it. We're ready to go. We could take, I think, up to like 12 people with us or something. Overall. Yeah, but when we go, if we go and we set up mobile with that other mobile one and bring the laptop, I think I can make it work just fine, but it's only two person.

Speaker 2:

Hey, can we get that Hummer or that truck?

Speaker 1:

We probably could.

Speaker 2:

Let's get that truck, that'd be cool.

Speaker 1:

Keith would probably be down with that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'll drive that bitch.

Speaker 1:

Whoa whoa whoa, whoa, whoa. Keith would probably be down with that. I'll ask him. I'll talk to him. This is a dog park thing too, so anybody with dogs that wants to get a come out for it. It's a. I should look at it, I guess, before I start telling everybody what it is. But it's, it's a, it's a dog. I forget what it is it's. It's. It's a dog pound thing, it's like for it's a tailgating event for dog pound, for the Browns, basically. But it's, bring your dogs.

Speaker 1:

It's like you to bring dogs to the dog park and stuff like that. So that's, that's what it basically is. I mean, it's it's a cool event. It's like their 12th one. So he claims that he had like four people ask if we were going to be there, Cause I guess they normally have quite a few that come in for podcasts. So he said he has four people but he might have been full of shit just to get us to come, I don't know. So it'd be like the only dummies there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it could be, but whatever.

Speaker 1:

I'm a lot of times the only dummy there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

If you're the smartest guy in the room you fucked up, that's right.

Speaker 2:

You're in the wrong room.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, it's going to be fun. That's May 4th, may 4th.

Speaker 2:

What day is that? A Saturday. It's a Saturday.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, may 4th, a Saturday, and I think we're going to bring the laptop and set it up and the way I've been doing it now, anyways I'm doing, I'm linked off my phone anyways right now, like my internet it, like the phone, does way better. So I'm just going to I think we'll be able to just roll with it. I just don't want to have to bring all of this and I have that mobile setup but it's only a two-person setup, but if we sit down and talk with somebody, just one of us will step out and the other, one can talk with them, yeah, something like that, yeah, if we have like a guy we're interviewing, I'll just set him next to you and you guys could just stand right here with the mics, like this?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, that ain't going to happen.

Speaker 1:

And then, if we have a girl, I'll do the interviews. They can sit over here with me. Sure, your wife will like that. She's probably going to be the interviewer. Yeah, all right, gonna be the interview? Yeah, all right. Well, we're gonna go shoot some guns today. We're gonna go doing some ski shooting, so, um, I gotta go run to the store, so I gotta get out of here, go shoot some guns sounds good, all right, we're out of here. Peace.

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