MAHD House Bar Talk
Madhouse Mayhem: Bar Banter, Court Celebrations, and Community Chronicles
Ever wondered what really happens behind the bar at your favorite local hangout? Join us for a side-splitting episode at the Madhouse Bar and Grill, where we recount the hilarious return of a patron named Sway after his infamous altercation. We'll take you through the daily grind of bartenders like Hector, whose mood swings have become a running joke amongst the staff. This episode is packed with laugh-out-loud stories and an unfiltered look at what it’s like to be on the other side of the bar.
Our conversation then shifts to the incredible makeover of a local basketball court that turned into a grand community celebration. What started as a simple art project evolved into a symbol of unity and pride, complete with "Lorraine Proud" decals. We'll also reminisce about the good old days of booking legendary musical acts like the Marshall Tucker Band and the Average White Band, while musing on the ever-changing landscape of country music and the possibility of high-end country bars in different regions.
Get ready for a whirlwind of topics as we tackle everything from LGBTQ+ cultural symbols and Hollywood acting talent to Shaquille O'Neal's latest antics and the eerie predictions of "The Simpsons." We wrap up with a heartfelt discussion on the decline of industrial cities like Lorraine and Youngstown, capturing both their former glory and present-day challenges. Whether you're here for the laughs or the deep dives, this episode has something for everyone.
We want everyone to enjoy the show and really appreciate your feed back
Ever wondered what really happens behind the bar at your favorite local hangout? Join us for a side-splitting episode at the Madhouse Bar and Grill, where we recount the hilarious return of a patron named Sway after his infamous altercation. We'll take you through the daily grind of bartenders like Hector, whose mood swings have become a running joke amongst the staff. This episode is packed with laugh-out-loud stories and an unfiltered look at what it’s like to be on the other side of the bar.
Our conversation then shifts to the incredible makeover of a local basketball court that turned into a grand community celebration. What started as a simple art project evolved into a symbol of unity and pride, complete with "Lorraine Proud" decals. We'll also reminisce about the good old days of booking legendary musical acts like the Marshall Tucker Band and the Average White Band, while musing on the ever-changing landscape of country music and the possibility of high-end country bars in different regions.
Get ready for a whirlwind of topics as we tackle everything from LGBTQ+ cultural symbols and Hollywood acting talent to Shaquille O'Neal's latest antics and the eerie predictions of "The Simpsons." We wrap up with a heartfelt discussion on the decline of industrial cities like Lorraine and Youngstown, capturing both their former glory and present-day challenges. Whether you're here for the laughs or the deep dives, this episode has something for everyone.
We want everyone to enjoy the show and really appreciate your feed back
We're number one, jimmy. He's being cheap ass. You know I'm like damn.
Speaker 2:You heard it here first Right, right, right.
Speaker 1:We're the best you know. They say people that cuss are more honest, so I'm an honest motherfucker. Put the fish away, reggie, it don't even hurt to give birth anymore.
Speaker 2:Not for me, nothing to it. Okay, let's do it. Come on, I'm ready, I'm ready, I want to do it, I'm ready. I got one on right now, jimmy and Guy Mad House Bar Talks baby man, this is a bunch of shit, if you ask me.
Speaker 1:That makes no sense.
Speaker 2:Morning. Madhouse Bar Talk on top of Madhouse Bar and Grill. Here we are having coffee, talking shit.
Speaker 1:It's what we do. We do it pretty well too.
Speaker 2:Well, we enjoy it anyways. How's that?
Speaker 1:Crack ourselves crack ourselves up.
Speaker 2:Right, I'm hilarious. Yeah, uh, any good stories this week uh hector's been doing better hector hector's doing better.
Speaker 1:You think he listened no, but he just so aggravated with us.
Speaker 4:Oh really.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we do it the way we want. So he just kind of gave in.
Speaker 2:Oh, I thought for sure, maybe he listened. He's like, ah fuck.
Speaker 1:No, I don't know. I should have asked him. You listen to podcasts.
Speaker 2:It was funny because Sway asked if he could come back in the bar, you know yesterday I think and he messaged me he goes, you know, hey, can I come back in the bar? And I'm like, nah, I said after you know what went down with everything. I said, no, I don't no interest in you coming back in the bar. I mean pretty much when someone gets barred for something like that, you know, I mean it's just not gonna happen. And, uh, he goes. Well, I didn't rob him. You said I robbed him. It's like I never once there's nothing in me that said robbed. I didn't even think he robbed him. So I know, I didn't say he robbed him. But it was funny though, because then, whenever I go, I go, I never said you, I argued with you, or that you robbed him. I said, but I don't want to sit and argue with you, or nothing. He or that you robbed him. I said, but I don't want to sit and argue with you, or nothing. He goes. No, I'm not trying to argue, he goes, by the way.
Speaker 1:Good, show, I thought, maybe I should let him know You're a listener. Come on back buddy Come on. Beat up whoever you want. I run into him once in a while. He's a good dude.
Speaker 2:I liked him, but that was wrong what he did, like I don't know. I mean it's just the way, it just was wrong. I mean you just you can't do that. It was like an older guy, drunk. I mean granted, the guy was being an ass or whatever, but he wasn't hurting nobody, he wasn't trying to be violent.
Speaker 1:He was a little vulgar and shit.
Speaker 4:That little vulgar and shit this way.
Speaker 1:He took it upon himself to handle it the wrong way right.
Speaker 2:Right, I mean there's a lot of these guys come in and they're vulgar. That doesn't mean it should end like that, you know right. So the week went good. So what?
Speaker 1:we can't use hector no more nah, hector did pretty good this week so no more hector.
Speaker 2:So then now, what do we call them when they're fucking up?
Speaker 1:still call him hector. He's still hector.
Speaker 2:Oh okay, all right all right, yeah, all right, good enough. I got some hectors that work here, yeah, and frustrated with people not doing their paperwork the right way, and stuff like it's. I don't understand. It's so simple, you know what I mean, but then it's like it's never, just never, done right ours is simple too.
Speaker 1:I don't do it right really I just crumbled that shit up, put it there, and I turn it all in the same way.
Speaker 2:I crumbled it up, oh jesus yeah, I mean I it's, it's not. Ours is on a clipboard, like it's just there. All you gotta do is, before and end a shift, just do each thing. You know what I got? That's it.
Speaker 1:That's all you gotta do, you know and I, like you, prepare for work and I got the nice clipboard that opens up you can put the paperwork in there. I'll just keep it in my car, you never take it to the truck that's ridiculous yeah actually is what that? Is that's just ridiculous. So fucking, go, go, go. I'm like fuck that yeah, that's not.
Speaker 2:I don't know, that's not cool. Yeah, who's part? Mine or theirs? On your part, I mean, you know what's so hard about filling out a little bit?
Speaker 1:I don't get it well, you don't run like I do, so you'll see, you don't know I don't run like you do.
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:man, it's constantly running. When you clock in, you're just running from that point to clock out. It's crazy.
Speaker 2:I mean, I work pretty hard all the time I like it.
Speaker 4:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know, bartending is that way too, you clock in, you're, you're busy, that's a bartending is like it's one of those things like not bartending, just service in general, smoking, any of that stuff, that's just it's a lot harder than people realize, like how hard people are actually working. Like it's it's nonstop, like I that's stressful, like when I have to bartend. It's like I know, like I can't stop, and I don't know how these girls do it, where they'll just go like relax and go smoke a cigarette and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I just I can't, I feel like I got to get apart around you. Yeah, you've got to get stuff together before.
Speaker 2:I mean you really do. I mean I'll slip out and smoke like three. I'm like Hannah. Hannah does that. Three hits, four hits, I'll do that. I rarely get a chance to sit down and enjoy a whole cigarette, unless a man just comes in or something and takes over for me while I go do it. It is, it's actually hard work. I mean it really is hard work and the kitchen might be worse times, you did it once no, I did it way more than once.
Speaker 1:What are you talking about?
Speaker 2:as a bartender yeah you did it with help other times, but you did it one time on your own and I did a fantastic job. I've done it more than once.
Speaker 1:Stupid you have, yeah, since when I've done it on a patio a couple times.
Speaker 2:By yourself. Yes, I don't know of that one. I know of one on a patio by yourself A couple times. You ain't been here, you don't know. Oh yeah, I'm never here.
Speaker 1:No, now you're here a lot, but I'm saying, when I did it you wasn't. You was doing all kinds of stuff At that time. Now you're more focused on the bar A little bit yeah, well, I had to be for a little bit.
Speaker 2:You know, I went to that Quaker Steak and Lube thing yesterday. They were like last hurrah. They were giving away all the memorabilia and stuff he had on the walls. What'd you get? I didn't get anything. No, they were like raffling them off. So I didn't even sign up for anything. I just kind of was like looking around, walk like I just wanted to walk through it.
Speaker 1:I mean, I built that place why wouldn't you want to have something from the narrow ear?
Speaker 2:I would love to have, but I I didn't want to put in the effort to go find where I got to file out and all that. I just didn't want to. I just didn't put in the effort. You know what I mean. I just didn't. But I mean, yeah, it would have been cool to have that. It'd be cool to have the whole place. Actually, that place is a gold mine.
Speaker 1:So what do you think the whole problem was with it? Like, why is it shut down?
Speaker 2:They gave it to that corporate. They handed it over to corporate.
Speaker 1:And that's what they did with Vermillion right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, vermillion's, the same way, Like corporate, were just like damaging it. It's just not doing the same. Just like damaging it, it's not, it's just not doing the same. When he, when they, when, when larry and pat, or corky, corky and larry's, they called it, but um, when they had it, dude, they had that place all the time jumping and I know like scotty was booking the bands and like they were having like big name bands there and like I mean literally like everybody's, like oh, it's packed.
Speaker 1:Yesterday it was like that every weekend dude every weekend, like it was like that it was so packed back in the day I used to ride by and be like I ain't going there.
Speaker 2:It's too damn packed, yeah you couldn't get in if you wanted to, or you'd have to park across the street or something. Yeah, it was crazy and it was like that every weekend. They had it going like that then, when they took over, they just kind of let it go to shit.
Speaker 1:That's why I was so surprised at what happened. Like it just Pat.
Speaker 2:I talked to Pat. I thought that it just became too much work. But Pat said that actually he had gotten divorced at that time. He was married to Mercedes. He said he got divorced and he decided to move down to Florida and get out of here florida and get out of here, so he wasn't going to be here to run it. So that's why they brought you know, and larry didn't want to do it by himself. So he said he, you know, that's why he went you know and let corporate take it over and basically became a landlord to corporate for it.
Speaker 2:But I mean, I don't know that that to me that that place is still a gold mine. I mean I walked through it. It still looks great. I can't believe how good the building has held up. I mean because you know we built that like it's been a long. It's a 20, 20 some years, I think we built that. It's been a while that thing was built and it still holds up. It's pretty nice.
Speaker 2:I mean, and it's funny because somebody went up the stairs in the back and went up on the roof through the hatch, you know, on the roof. And it's funny because Scotty goes. Did you see that some guys were up on the roof and I'm like. I'm like was his name Jimmy Dean, because opening night when they opened that place, my partner back then, jimmy Dean, did the same thing. He was up on the roof and he pissed him off.
Speaker 2:Pretty good, going up on the roof he was pissing, he was drunk and pissing everyone off, but he, like he went up on the roof and was like showing people, like where we built the parapets and how we built this and that, like I don't know why he just he was he's, he's kind of like I don't know, that's just how he is. I guess I was just enjoying the moment, relaxing, but he was off showing everybody what all we'd done work-wise there. And then it was funny because then I think it was Bobby and Scotty, I think, got in a fight that opening night too, and like Jimmy gets in the middle of it, you know, then they team up on him.
Speaker 4:It's like they're brothers, they're going to fight.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 4:mean. But don't get in between it, you have nothing to do with that. You know what I mean. So Jimmy was just really screwing things up that night.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that was opening night. Now here's closing night to it. Yeah, it would be nice. It is a nice place. It could do something big for the right person to come in there and really put in the effort it's got to be, though you have to put in the time. If I remember right, I want to say they even had like a pr person back then, like someone who just handled public relations, and I think that you almost have to when you're moving that kind of. I mean, that's the way that thing was jumping all the time and it was like.
Speaker 2:it was like black river landings does on the weekends, but at up there every weekend yeah, some little smaller scale right, not not much smaller, though mean they used to have some big bands and stuff there, Maybe bigger names actually than what they have at the landings. Honestly, I mean I don't know who all played there. Scotty knows because he booked them all, but I know one of them they said yesterday was Gretchen Wilson. I don't think we've had anybody as big as Gretchen Wilson down at Rocking on the River, Not that I could think of, but yeah, it was kind of cool walking around checking it out. Did you make it to bike week this week?
Speaker 1:Hell. No, I made it to my bed. I was tired.
Speaker 2:I wanted to go to bike week but with that going on Saturday, I'm like yeah, I'm going to go there instead.
Speaker 1:Plus, last weekend wasn't it raining or something. It was raining. Yeah it was raining last weekend, right.
Speaker 2:Well, didn't it just start today, or not today, thursday?
Speaker 1:I think last weekend it was raining. Oh, I thought it started Thursday. I don't know.
Speaker 2:I thought it started Thursday.
Speaker 1:It's over now what you got going on this week?
Speaker 2:I don't know yet, I haven't figured it out yet. I know I'm supposed to interview Darius tomorrow, but he's so limited when he can come in. I've been trying to do it when you can be here and he can be here, but it's just not going to work. So he's going to come in at like noon or something tomorrow. So, yeah, he's bringing somebody with him too, like somebody else that's involved in the grind league. That's kind of fat.
Speaker 2:That whole thing is kind of fascinating to me because it's weird, because I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm like it. Maybe I'm simple-minded a little bit, or neanderthal-ish, or whatever you want to call it. But like I don't understand that. Like, literally, you paint the basketball court and it turns into this major thing, like it, just literally all you did was paint it. You know what I mean? It just seems like it was so simple to me, but yet it's gone, it's gained so much attention, it's gained so much ground. I mean it's, it's really it. You would, I wouldn't think that in my hot mind that you know, like alexa, my daughter, she would see that she thinks that she understands. That doesn't make sense to me. Like but it, but it's. I'm. I think it's awesome what they're doing down there with the park, the painting. I mean one way or the other. I don't really know where that matters, but what part oakwood?
Speaker 1:park. Well, it's almost like you're doing a city job, that right I'm sure that the city's supposed to take care of that why is it such a big deal?
Speaker 2:somebody else's that well, no, but it's not just, it's not, it's not just like sealed or nothing, it's. Have you seen it? Oh no, it's sharp, like it's like they did it up. It's actually the logo of of the grind league. Now it's, it's, it's, yeah, it's pretty badass actually. Yeah, but my point is like an artist did it, yeah, like an artist came in and like striped it and like they it's got lorraine pride on it. They put like decals on the back boards, oh well, I mean it's, it's.
Speaker 2:It's not just like they painted it white you know what I mean or black or whatever. You know I'm saying it's, it's blue, and it says lorraine proud, and it says all kinds of stuff like that yeah, but what I'm saying is like that's cool, Like you said, I don't think it should be great Morning, scotty, morning Tia.
Speaker 2:Hey, scotty, we were just talking about it. We want to know what acts you had at Quaker, what the big names were Like. At least four or five of them, tia said her niece did the painting on the ground, her and a small group of kids. That's cool, yeah, I mean, I just wouldn't think like that, like to me, like painting that that, like that wouldn't seem like it would make everything just jump, like that like it does. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:well, that's cool it is, it's amazing, you know. I mean it really is amazing, but I mean I, I just so it's interesting to me is what I'm saying. I kind of want to talk to him about work because I mean they literally made it to the all-star.
Speaker 1:When you said painting, I just figured you just repainted it.
Speaker 2:Marshall tucker band, the average white band. There you go. Scotty was the one booking all those. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Well, he should have, that's his profession, ain't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's his wheelhouse for sure. I don't know if country music is his wheelhouse. Music is music, I guess. But Scotty loves him some R&B. He's like you and me, he likes R&B.
Speaker 1:Well, he should have got some boys and men and some some uh new edition and something like that yeah, that would have been cool, wouldn't it shit?
Speaker 2:that would have been awesome I guarantee I wouldn't have missed those yeah, I mean I I like country music, but I mean I definitely r&b is my nowadays. Yeah, I feel like the country music today is like the same, almost like as r&b really just a different beat in the background yeah, but it's not even.
Speaker 2:It's even moving more towards a pop beat, like a lot of it is. It's not even like it's like that old hank williams type. You know what I mean. It's like it's got that like actual pop beat to it anymore. Yeah, it's pretty crazy the difference how it's changed. I've seen that thing that said that. I think they said that people that listen to country music also listen to R&B and rap. It's like that's the three genres those people listen to. Believe it. Yeah, that's pretty wild to me. Keith said that that would be a good country bar over there, quaker steak. He said he's showing me these this place in uh uh era era. Is it era new mexico? New mexico, where he was at that, they have this country bar and everybody's got a dress code for the guys and it's all like high-end country bar.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying yeah it wouldn't work here.
Speaker 1:High-end country bar no. That's what he's saying this is not New Mexico.
Speaker 2:I said, every area is different.
Speaker 1:You gotta find what hits here like I think country would hit here. That ain't what I'm saying. I'm saying the high-end dress code stuff.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's working yeah, because it's hard for a guy to go to a country bar high-end dress code when he doesn't have wranglers and yeah, he's a blue collar worker.
Speaker 1:See those people in mexico in that area, probably your ranchers that got money, you know. I mean it could be. You might be right, but when you come here, lorraine, where's the nearest ranch around here? Ain't no ranch around here? You got considered country boys, which ain't really country boys. Were born here in lorraine, like me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are rednecks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so there's a difference. Right yeah, so you might have a cowboy hat and some boots, but I'm just saying you're not going to have outfits to go there constantly.
Speaker 2:You know, what I'm saying and dress the attire of country music at your city.
Speaker 1:That's not going to happen. They got boots and T-shirts here. They'll go in there.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. Like you get down in, like texas, in that area, them dudes be like they got wranglers and they're you know, them bitches are ironed to the.
Speaker 4:They're ironed so tight that they're actually.
Speaker 2:Jeans are faded at the crease because they're, because they're, because they've ironed the shit out of them, fading that shit out like some old military guys yeah, right your shit all the time my dad used to iron my clothes for me.
Speaker 1:He would iron my clothes for that.
Speaker 2:He would iron my clothes for me and he'd do them up when he'd iron them. That's like when you were going to do something you'd have Dad do it, because he'd lay that shit out.
Speaker 1:Yeah them creases so tight they'll cut somebody if they come too, close yeah.
Speaker 2:So summer is officially here. June 1st, they said, is the official kickoff of summer. Yeah, it's also the official kickoff of Gay Pride Month. We'd be involved in that a lot. I just don't understand. I'm kind of slated. Why do the gays get to pick what they get? All the good stuff, Rainbows, the first month of summer, apple martinis this is just ridiculous. I mean, don't we get anything? Next they're going to take the sunshine. They kind of did when they took the month of June.
Speaker 1:Well, the rainbow too, you know. But bullshit Sometimes, man, when you can't beat him, you got to join him.
Speaker 4:No, there you go. I would, but it sounds like a pain in the ass why my mic sounds low.
Speaker 1:Is your mic sound low? Yeah, you're always trying to lower my mic and lower my seat and all kinds of shit no, your mic is up, exactly as mine is.
Speaker 2:Don't sound right, or turn it up on here on your headphone. There you go right there, that's good, okay, all right. Yeah, I don't, I mean that's just, I don't get it. I mean I, just I, I just I, I like a rainbow, just like everybody else.
Speaker 4:I see a nice rainbow.
Speaker 2:I'm like oh, that's nice. I like June, that's my. I mean, the boats are going in the water. Summertime's here, I mean Take all the good stuff. Father's Day's in June. Just don't make sense. Why do they get all the good stuff?
Speaker 1:You can't beat them, join them. I'm not saying they can't have some good stuff.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying I mean, if they want the rainbow, that's fine. You get the month of November. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:If you want the month of June, the rainbows are ours.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And apple martinis should be for everyone, yeah you're taking all that shit back.
Speaker 4:I want it all back, that's it.
Speaker 1:Fuck this. You have a little rainbow air freshener in your car Bumper sticker. You're like I'm taking the rainbow back.
Speaker 2:Well, the rainbow bumper sticker remember in the 90s? Did you guys ever do that? Like you could find them in a gas station and put them on your friend's cars and shit. Oh, we did that all the time at work. We were childish like that. For sure. We were definitely putting rainbows on people's trucks old trucks.
Speaker 1:The only thing I'd have any involvement with the rainbow was skittles, that's it the skittles, that's it, so you only taste the rainbow you're laughing, but you got a leak right there I know I do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got. I got a couple leaks. I think it was already wet up there and I drilled the hole and put the light in and then that made it come through. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think so. Yes, uh, bobby was telling me I got to get up there and redo that I told you, I sent you, I sent you a video of it.
Speaker 2:No, I, know, I know, but Bobby was saying he wanted to do it this year, get it all set up and do it, get up there. It's just two spots, I think that are. I get this one here and I get one over there by the desk too. You know that, get me. But yeah, yeah, summer's here officially, and that's good for the gays. I guess I guess we have to wait until July to enjoy summer, I don't know. But also it is the month of Trump's birthday Flag Day. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I knew it was going to come up.
Speaker 2:June 14th, flag Day, so he's only a couple weeks away from his birthday and he's a convicted, guilty felon. For his birthday that was felonies. Yeah, well, it's not technically felony what he was charged with, but the judge sat there with the jury and goes hey, so if he's guilty of the two things then it is a felony. But he never had to show what the other thing was. Like it just I don't know the whole thing is like, because they showed, like the juror, like when he or the judge talking to the jury and he's basically explaining to them that that, like you don't even have to be guaranteed on this. Just, you know, if you think that it's a, it's it's, you know, one of the things he did wrong or something you know. It's just like it was bad how he was and it's just. That judge is just a piece of shit.
Speaker 1:Is that the same judge?
Speaker 2:that was that weird guy I don't know, because that had to do with the land values. Yeah, that was the banking system, land values. I don't know if it's the same attorney or judge or not. I really don't know. I heard it, I didn't see it, so I don't know if that was him.
Speaker 1:I didn't pay attention to none of that Because I seen him.
Speaker 2:That guy was creepy, creepy looking, the first one that you're talking about I don't know if that was the same one or not, I have no idea. Honestly, it seemed like it was he's acting the same. How's that? I mean this whole thing is because what happened was that cohen was his attorney, which was trump's attorney, and basically cohen paid Stormy Daniels off when Stormy Daniels accused Trump of having sex, I guess, and it wasn't even like I don't think she was accusing him of rape, it was just like extramarital sex or something.
Speaker 1:So Cohen paid her the money, but she had to do that if he was the president.
Speaker 2:What have sex on that side? Only if you're Kennedy and Clinton Clinton, okay, that's it. That's the only ones that are allowed. But this wasn't. He wasn't president then. Anyways, this was prior to him being president.
Speaker 2:So the argument was or what they were going after him for is basically not that he paid or none of that stuff. What they were going after him for is basically not that he paid or none of that stuff. It was the fact that he listed it as a legal expense, wrote the check to Cohen and Cohen wrote the check to Stormy Daniels and he actually paid Cohen enough money to cover Cohen's taxes for the amount that was sent to him. So he didn't avoid any taxes, so there was no tax avoidance trying to go on or anything like that. And uh, basically they are saying that, that that that's illegal because he didn't list it as I don't know like, maybe that should have been as personal and not a business expense, which is whatever. That's all a misdemeanor, bullshit.
Speaker 2:But they're saying because of that, that's him and Cohen conspiring to affect the election and that's why it becomes a felony, which they don't even have the jurisdiction to mess with. That that's a federal, you know, federal jurist. That's federal jurisdiction that has nothing to do with the state of New York. You know what I mean? And that's what they're basically finding them guilty of is affecting the election. And it makes no sense, like, and I mean, yeah, because he was trying to just settle the case out of court. Basically, I mean that doesn't make any sense why I mean a lot of people in power settle cases out of court.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying A lot worse than that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they're saying it's like because it was Cohen and him and, by the way, cohen's his attorney so anything he'd done that would have been through the advice of his attorney, right? I mean, isn't that the job of your attorney, to advise you?
Speaker 1:how to handle a situation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you just listen to your attorney. I mean he's the. You know, he's the one that I would find guilty. And, by the way, he's lied to all kinds of people he's been on. He's been caught lying on the stand to Congress and he stole money the money that was when he took the money that, the payment for stormy Daniels and his extra. He tacked on another 60 and he got caught for stealing that too. That's why he's not Trump's attorney. No more Unbelievable, and that's that. But either way, that's it. That'll get overturned. It's the same shit. It'll just get overturned. I mean, he's found guilty for now. And and the Democratic Party gets to say, hey, trump's guilty, they like that. They like to say he's a felon, he's a convicted felon. They like to say that. So Robert De Niro can come out and talk shit, fuck him. Anyways, I ain't watching another Robert De Niro movie, nope.
Speaker 1:He's a good actor.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. He was acting out there when he was giving that thing. He's reading it the whole time, the whole time. He's reading and reading, and reading and reading. He's got it right in front of him. You can see him. He's reading it. He's acting when he was out there. Oh, he's a good actor. Either way, I'm still not watching none of his movies. No more, no, I won't watch. I'm going to burn my copy of because I got the Godfather. I'm burning, I'm burning number two.
Speaker 1:I'm burning number two he is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 2:He was a great actor. I mean his movies have been great, but I'm sick and tired. I mean you don't think that it's ridiculous that these people in Hollywood or that are uber rich and are living these crazy different lives than us, come out because they can, because they are popular you know what I mean? They can just come out and have a press conference. That's what he did. He had a press conference. All the news channels showed up. He stands in this right in New York and he tells you basically how he feels about Trump. I mean I don't get that. You know what I mean? I mean I guess I do because I have a podcast, but no, no, nowhere near all those news channels showing up and everything else, just for you to say you don't like Trump.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Our podcast is getting pretty popular.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you know what I'm saying. Like I just, and they don't. Their opinion doesn't even shouldn't matter to the average Joe, it just shouldn't. What the hell does Robert De Niro know about trying to pay his taxes, or trying to get his frickin' electric bill paid before they shut it off, or how much gas is going to cost him or any of that stuff? What does he know about that? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'd argue that Keith and Scotty Campana, who both have some serious money, are more regular Joes than that guy is by a hundred, by a time, by a million times. I mean, he's living in new york, like you know. He's worshiped everywhere he goes because he plays people on tv well, maybe you should be an actor.
Speaker 1:Who you? Why so?
Speaker 2:you could do that, so I could do the same thing yeah, you go on there and tell them your political views. Well, you know what the thing is with him. You say he's a great actor. I'm going to argue that I don't think he is.
Speaker 3:You're crazy.
Speaker 2:I don't, you went too far. He's playing the same fucking character. Everything it's the same character. So what? It's good that you a great actor? No, and he, it was different. He didn't play. Dustin hoffman was a good actor, listen, and he wasn't that character. Yes, he was. He's always that, care, even when he plays a grandpa, he plays that character oh yes, he does.
Speaker 1:He always plays that character. He went too far.
Speaker 2:He's a great actor no, get the fuck him, he ain't shit, you're mad.
Speaker 1:I bet if we'd asked you fucking three weeks ago, if he was a great, you'd be like he. He's one of the best, of course.
Speaker 2:No, I would never say he plays one character, that's it. That's the same fucking character every time. Because, you're mad at him? Fuck him. I mean Dustin Hoffman. How many different roles and people have he been? You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Well, you can say that about anybody like Tom Cruise. You know they're different.
Speaker 2:You know who's a great actor and I hate to admit it who? Will Smith. That is one of the greatest actors I've ever seen. Even though I hate him. How I mean he can play any role. I mean I've seen him play everything from goofy to funny to dead serious, to like broken like, and it's realistic, I mean it's. He's good that that is somebody who is a great actor.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean well there's a lot of them.
Speaker 2:John torolta I thought was a really good actor until these I kind of feel like he's the same way, always played the same role. No, I do, I don I don't think so.
Speaker 4:He's bullshit dude. He's disco, danced in every movie since 1975. And nobody even knows about disco. And he's still doing disco. He did a commercial. He's just trying to bring it back. He did a Santa Claus commercial where he was dancing disco.
Speaker 1:You know how people are trying to bring back Fanny Pack. He's just trying to bring disco back. You know how people are trying to bring back Fanny Pack. He's just trying to bring disco back. That's all that is.
Speaker 4:He's been trying a long time. Every movie can't end in disco, it just can't. I mean every movie dude Somewhere he dances.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm just saying, every one he's a dancer, yeah, I guess. I mean I'll say he's a good dancer, then okay.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna say he's a good actor. No, there's older movies were really good what grease no uh you liked grease everybody liked grease.
Speaker 2:No only women like grease I was touching my feminine the only reason men watch grease is some chick made him watch it you got it on video?
Speaker 1:uh, well, maybe I have?
Speaker 2:I have daughters. Yeah, they probably do.
Speaker 1:My daughters probably wanted to watch I probably watched it probably three times a day. No, I don't watch that shit. But no, like that's the ultimate chick flick I'm talking about. Like what was that? One where he had a baby talked or some shit.
Speaker 2:Look who's talking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he didn't dance in that one, did he? Yes?
Speaker 2:He danced in every movie, always danced.
Speaker 4:There's never a spot where he doesn't dance. He dances, it's what he does.
Speaker 1:I don't know about that.
Speaker 2:The only thing he did do was he gave us that great line. There's only one thing to do at a moment like this Strut, Don't forget this. Oh, Pulp Fiction Now that was a good movie. Pulp Fiction, that was actually a good movie.
Speaker 1:He played in a lot of good movies.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying he didn't, I'm just saying he didn't play a good actor, de.
Speaker 1:Niro was a good actor.
Speaker 2:I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, fuck, robert De Niro. Good actor, my ass. He played one role his whole life, still playing the same role. True story. No, yeah, it's the same character, it's not they're like, when they're like, we need like a.
Speaker 1:Heat was different. Uh well, when he did that boxing one with sylvester sloan, that was different. When he boxed at one with sylvester sloan when they came out of retirement and fought each other what was that? I don't think I seen that movie see, and then I think you're making that up. I'm not making it up. What movie is this? I don't remember what it's called.
Speaker 2:It wasn't that long ago sylvester sloan did a movie where he wasn't.
Speaker 1:It wasn't't a rocky no, and then both and he was boxing yeah, and both of them guys came out of retirement to fight each other robert de niro, yep, how's he gonna fight rocky? Man, it's a movie. I don't know what to tell you. It was on it. I'm gonna call bullshit. Okay, bullshit if you want.
Speaker 2:I think you made that up. No, I didn't. I think you did Look it up. I've never seen it. I've never seen no movie like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, anyways, that one. What else?
Speaker 2:I've never seen it. I've never seen it.
Speaker 1:Somebody's going to tell us what it is. Hold on.
Speaker 2:They ain't yet. Everybody's like what the fuck's he talking about? They're like gito's making shit up let's see
Speaker 4:there's no way he'll go to to prove himself right I'm right.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:whatever, and next you'll tell me you've seen sasquatch yeah, it worked, oh shit you know, my truck unlocked itself again yesterday. Oh, I was on the phone with you when it, did it yeah you think somebody has a fob like from the air, like because I know like on my ford I could unlock that bitch from blocks away with my fob. You think somebody's like blocks away with a key fob? I bet it is. It's got to be something like that. That's not cool, dude, that's just not cool.
Speaker 2:I don't like that. When I lock my truck, I assume it's locked. I don't want it to. You know what I mean. I don't like that at all. Don't like that at all, Not even a little bit.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:What's it called here? There you go. What's it called? Grudge match, grudge match, yes, who else watched it? Has anybody ever heard of grudge match? It was just made for me, I got, apparently. What year was it made, grudge match?
Speaker 4:yes, in 2013 I had never heard of that movie. It was there.
Speaker 2:I want to know what it's like rankings are like. I mean, it's probably less popular than our podcast. Definitely, I've never heard of that.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, so you could say it.
Speaker 2:What apologize that you found some random movie and and I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I'm. The thing is is that I'm not going to say that. I don't think the app would do it. I think because that's logged in. Amanda, I wouldn't think so, but I'm not going to say it. Only reason I'm not going to say it is because I haven't seen the movie, and if I do, I probably would say it's the same fucking character, probably, probably, probably, because it's probably the same character. He plays the same damn character, okay it does.
Speaker 1:Did he ever win an oscar?
Speaker 2:did he? I don't know. Probably. I don't know, probably. I have no idea. What would he have won an oscar for? Probably the godfather let's see has robert deniro ever won? I'll punch it in has robert deniro? Has robert deniro? Don't be getting all thing about robert deniro because he's in. Ah bam, he got a oscar for playing veto. Corleone and the godfather, part two, just, and jake lamotta and the raging bull oh yeah, I forgot about that one yeah the raging bull, yeah two oscars yeah when was the last time he won one?
Speaker 1:Probably the Raging Bull. Yeah, it was 1980.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, 1980 was the last time he won an Oscar.
Speaker 1:Fuck him, he sucks.
Speaker 2:There's great actors that never even got one, so yeah Well, I don't think so, but he's got two. I don't think that's true. He's got two. I don't think that's true. He's got two. I don't think there's two. I don't think there's great actors that didn't get any, oh for sure. No they're just not great.
Speaker 1:Has Tom Cruise ever got one?
Speaker 2:I'm sure he has, on what Top Gun at least? How can you not get one for Top Gun? Maybe that was a great movie. Check it, that was a great movie, check it. Or maybe his Mission Impossible? What about Will Smith?
Speaker 1:Think he's got one he had to have.
Speaker 2:He had to have Collateral Beauty, that one, in fact. I think I know for a fact that he did the one.
Speaker 1:I think I know for a fact that doesn't even sound right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty fucking sure.
Speaker 1:I think I know for a fact.
Speaker 2:Pursuit of Happiness, I think I remember he did. I'm pretty sure that was a great movie. No, he's a great actor. I'll give him his props, even though I don't like him. Robert De Niro plays the same character, so what?
Speaker 1:Who cares? He's got two Oscars.
Speaker 2:Good for him. It doesn't give him the right to tell Americans how to vote. That's all I'm saying, because he can pretend to be somebody, one person who, clearly the character that he always plays, would vote for Trump. I'm just saying right. So I mean, I guess he is acting because because I mean, every character he's ever played would have been a trump supporter is all I'm saying. All right, let's move on. You know who? You know who actually reminds me of robert de niro, that what was that mayor or governor of new york? What was? Why does he remind you he does when he would come out? He would come out. I guess he talks like him, I don't know, he just kind of always did, maybe because they're both from New York.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it could be. It's very possible, very, very possible, very, very possible. But anyways, my point is what do you think about Hollywood? You think Hollywood should get that, don't? You think they should just sit down and shut up?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I really don't think they should be pushing political views.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I just just sit down and shut up. First of all, you lost half your audience or irritated half your audience, you know, and especially right now. I mean, there's people that won't care, but half the country is definitely in love with Trump and you just pissed them off. Why? What's the point? You know what I'm saying? Why would you limit your ticket sales like that? What's the point of that?
Speaker 3:It's just stupid.
Speaker 2:And people need to honestly just not go to his movies. They need to show that support. So these people stop doing it. The other one is lebron james. I mean, I love lebron james but I I get tired as bullshit like freaking his, his liberal like freaking I, I get tired of it. It pisses me off. Like he wouldn't go to see trump in a white house or something when he won the championship, wasn't that him? Wasn't that lebron remember? And then, uh, um, what's the other one that was really irritating to me, that that that was Kyrie's pretty political yeah, well, he's not political, he's weird, like he's just like out there, like he thinks he's a flat
Speaker 1:earther or whatever and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's freaking, killing it, though, man.
Speaker 1:I think Shaquille is too.
Speaker 2:I've never heard politics out of Shaq.
Speaker 1:No, not politics. I'm talking about flat earther.
Speaker 2:Is he yeah no. Shaq's smarter than that? No, he's big enough he could see around a curve. You kidding me. I'm telling you he can't believe that. Yeah, when you could see the curve, how can you believe that?
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:No, shaq, believe that, I don't know. No, shack's not a flat earther. Yes, he is. I see now you're gonna make me google again. This is bullshit making me google all night.
Speaker 1:You keep googling my shit and it's always true that that shack's a flat earther.
Speaker 2:Yes, is shack a flat earther yes, he is I did see a thing where shack was saying that video of shack, a flat earther, the earth is flat. I don't know if that's him or not. I don't know if that's what he's saying or not. Let's see.
Speaker 4:Let's see what shack has to say oh shut up.
Speaker 1:Always try to fact check me and you're always wrong. Let me have a cigarette. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:you're gonna find out here in a second okay, hold on, I think we got it right here. All right, we'll go ahead and put that one on. We'll check it out, we'll watch it, we'll see what it has to say.
Speaker 3:It was my sound off, my sound off ah, there it is all right o'neill says there are three ways the human mind is manipulated into believing things what you read, what you read, what you see and what you hear. He references the elementary history lesson of Christopher Columbus discovering America before steering off course to how Columbus didn't actually discover a new land Because fair-skinned people with long hair and peace pipes were already there. The reasoning behind O'Neill's Earth is Flat, claim he drives from Florida to California all the time and that he doesn't go up and down at a 360 degree angle because it's flat. During his rant, he posed the question have you looked at all the buildings outside? While rejecting the idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's all bullshit. Come on, dude. That's just some guy saying it. Shaq's just funny, dude, he just talks shit. He's funny.
Speaker 1:I don't know, that's just shack being shack he's just a funny guy, but you didn't put the one where he's actually saying the shit yeah, that's because if it did it, they wouldn't put that video, because it'll be.
Speaker 2:You clearly see, he's being funny. Shack's always talking shit and being funny. I don't think that that's actually they try.
Speaker 1:Tried to say something about Kyrie talking that flat earth and Shaquille was like, yeah, I agree with him. Huh, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. Okay, shaq, don't believe that I love Shaq.
Speaker 1:When's the last time you talked to him?
Speaker 2:Shaq, I talk to him every night, okay, so that's what I'm saying. I listen to his podcast, though, but what I was gonna say is they asked him if his rings were real, and one on one of his podcasts, and he said he says uh. He said no, he said it's all scripted. He said he was in the finals or something. They were getting ready for the finals, and he heard what? Who was it? Phil jackson telling the book of book, the hotel outside of indiana, or something like that? And they, like indiana wasn't even in it yet. You know what I'm saying. So, like he goes, it's scripted. You know what I mean, but I don't think he actually believes. I think he's just starting up shit on his podcast, because that's just how he is.
Speaker 2:But anyways, I was looking at. The other thing I was looking at was I was looking at because I was talking with Scotty and I was talking with. He was there with Tom Orlando, the one that runs the clerk of courts for Loring County, and I was sitting there talking with him and I guess his brother works for a place called Evergreen Podcast in Cleveland where they actually take on podcasts and monetize them and do all that stuff or whatever for them and they put them out on platforms, they edit, they do a lot of stuff for you in the process. They just use you as the talent essentially, and you get paid some of the monetization. But he was saying that most of it is, you know, the crime stories and I had seen that before. Like the number, like I think. Like I forget what it was and I don't want to make it up, but I'm gonna. Anyway, I think it's like six of the top podcast, top 10 podcast are crime stories, like true crime stories.
Speaker 1:No, I believe it.
Speaker 2:That's like, that's the biggest one and that's what theirs is. But why? Why is that Like? Why does somebody want to put a podcast on and listen to a true crime story? I don't get it Like it does. I've never done it, have you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I've listened to them.
Speaker 2:You've listened to them, yeah, now if I see them or a TikTok or something, I got to go to the next one. Like they clickbait me for sure. I got to see the rest of the story, right, but I don't. I've never listened to the podcast like that.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I'm. It's like a clip.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'll watch the whole thing and then I'll go to the next one to get the rest of the story. I'll do that.
Speaker 1:Well, that's smart, but I don't actually go and listen to the actual podcast ever, I don't know. But once they catch you, you're locked in.
Speaker 2:Is that what it is?
Speaker 1:You just got to have that hook.
Speaker 2:You got to have that hook and then you're dragged in. I listened to one yesterday it started off as a clip and then it went on and then you just went to. How many clips did you go to to see the whole thing.
Speaker 1:No, I just watched that whole clip, that's all.
Speaker 2:Just one clip. Yeah, oh See, I've like literally went and watched like three or something on something. See that answers your question, but I haven't watched podcasts, though. Is what I'm saying, Like? I mean, I know the clickbait thing is the way to go. I get that.
Speaker 2:I understand that I don't know why. That is like as America's, like, it's like we're just or not America, just the world. It's like a train wreck, you can't help, but you just want to know. Right, Like you gotta look, you gotta check it out, like it's, it's weird, I don't, I don't understand that. Well, if you knew something's going to happen I saw that. They said that Alex Jones, in like July of 2001, said that they were going to fly planes in the World Trade Center. The terrorists were.
Speaker 1:And there's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2:And that they were going to blame Osama bin Laden for it. He literally called that out in July. I saw I think it was a Tucker Carlson that was talking about it and he goes dude, he's got some kind of like special powers, that's what he said, so does the Simpsons yeah, they call some shit out too, don't they hell? Yeah, do you think it's like they say with nastro, not nostradamus, how they say like he just makes these random statements so many and then eventually?
Speaker 1:something's gonna stick. So. So if you put out so many, something's gonna happen. You know like you're gonna.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna land but and and the simpsons have been out a long ass time, dude, but there's so much detail, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that trump elevator one is like almost spot on that's the 9-11 one is spot on too yeah, there's a bunch of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there is, there are. The problem is, as you watch it, then you get nervous. Then because now, now, like the one that's out now with the simpsons- oh, and then they had nuclear. They had the kobe bryant one too oh yeah, something like that they did too, or was that bullshit? Was that after the fact?
Speaker 1:and they, just, like somebody, made it up. I don't know, I'll have to check that one out, but I think it was.
Speaker 2:Because I did see that skit and I'm like is that real? That can't be real. If that is, then that's creepy.
Speaker 1:That is kind of creepy where do they make the simpsons, though?
Speaker 2:probably on mars. I mean, if it's in la you watched, you were constantly watching like kobe flying, probably back and forth, you know about, like I didn't know he was flying like all the time, like a car right, but an helicopter right. I didn't know that, but if you lived in that area, you would know that you know what I'm saying like how would you know that you see a random helicopter going over?
Speaker 2:You wouldn't know that was if you lived in LA I would bet you know that Kobe flies everywhere. I just kind of feel like you would know that you know what I'm saying. I just feel like you would.
Speaker 1:But anyways, just the coincidence of the Simpsons is just creepy.
Speaker 2:Oh no, you're not wrong. You're not wrong, but the thing that's out now is like I think it's like frickin' nuclear holocaust or something is like what they're showing in one of their cartoons. Swear to God, there's like nukes going off in there. So I mean, then you got to worry, like you know. Damn, simpsons are that good. They need to cut that show off.
Speaker 1:How many years has that been out?
Speaker 2:It's been out a long time. I think it first year was like well, the first year they actually opened up was like 90, 90, 92, somewhere in that range. Even if it's 91, it's got to be 90-ish. I think I bet it's 90-ish, probably Somewhere around there, because I remember I was working at campbell's buffet when it came out and I remember it hit with me because I think that the the running line that was on the previews for it was like you hear that dad, you can lay around in your underwear and scratch yourself because he's going over to like the burns is and he tells them that make yourself at home or something. That was the big running like that was the preview that was going around everywhere was him doing. And I remember thinking that that that's my dad, that's some shit. I would say to my dad 87, yeah, but see, now is that that's not when it came out, that's probably when it was on tracy allman.
Speaker 1:So the first appeared on television in 1987.
Speaker 2:And that's on Tracy Allman though. Right, yeah, but then when did the actual show come out where they had their own show? I don't know. That was like separate 89. Okay, so I knew it was close to that. Yeah, 89. That's a long ass time, dude.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah Shit. Can't think of anything else that lasted that long.
Speaker 2:No, there's nothing else that lasted that long. I mean, maybe these soap operas maybe actually Like, does General Hospital still on, young and the Restless and shit, I don't know. I mean that stuff has been on, that shit was running forever, so it might be possible that something like that. Yeah, I don't know, I have no clue.
Speaker 1:What do you got on your little notes?
Speaker 2:My notes, I think I just I think we kind of hit everything. I think for the most part, I just I'm kind of bummed. I wanted you in that for that interview. You always end up not being able to be here for the interviews, and I don't like that. Well, I'm kind of bummed. I wanted you in that for that interview. You always end up not being able to be here for the interviews, and I don't like that.
Speaker 1:I really can't help.
Speaker 2:Could quit your job.
Speaker 1:Ain't gonna do my job this time, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You're heading out to. You're heading out to Youngstown, that's right. You lost a cousin, right? Yeah yeah, I forgot about that.
Speaker 1:You yeah, I forgot about that, you're doing?
Speaker 2:you're leaving right now? No, I don't know. Am I leaving the morning? Am I late now? Did you find that tire? No, you didn't find it. No, that's not good that's it, yeah, so um how long that? Uh, you said it's tomorrow. Services are for tomorrow for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much family do you got in Youngstown? A lot, and how come they're in Youngstown.
Speaker 1:My dad's from here, my mom's from there. They met somehow when he was down there. She come back here.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, so that's all your dad's family, or all?
Speaker 1:your mom's family, all my mom's family is down there.
Speaker 2:I got you. There's a lot of them Really so she's got no family up here.
Speaker 1:They move back and forth. Some of them will come out here and move here for a while and then they're like I'm going back home, and then they come back and other ones come up here.
Speaker 2:Youngstown's cheaper to live, though right Like a lot cheaper.
Speaker 1:House-wise. Yeah, you can buy a house cheap.
Speaker 2:That's it, though.
Speaker 1:Everything else is pretty much the same. Yeah, it's only an hour and a half away but it's different down there.
Speaker 2:I've been, I've worked there, I've worked down there a couple times and it's just, you can see, it's like. It's like looks depleted. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like lorraine has times where it's looked like that it's. It's actually on an upswing. Now it's starting to really look a lot better than it used to. You know what I mean. But there was times when it looked depleted. But I think even when it looked depleted, youngstown looked more depleted right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But I had the same issue here as they do there, where the mills the steel mill closed yeah, is that what it is. They had a big steel mill there years ago and it closed but they were like big boys at one time.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah they were like, youngstown was like because it was.
Speaker 1:A central hub is what it was and it was mafia and all that stuff like richard prior tells that story.
Speaker 2:You ever seen that one with richard prior that he was playing a comedy club in youngstown when the mafia? Did you ever see it? Probably probably it's probably one of the funniest skits. He said that they weren't gonna pay him. They weren't gonna pay him and he came in with a little fake gun and they just were laughing yeah. They don't play.
Speaker 1:They don't play down there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that. So it was like a little bigger. I think then maybe look, man Lorraine was pretty big back in its day, but I don't know that we had like big acts, although Richard Pryor probably wasn't a big act back, he was probably just hanging out.
Speaker 1:But that was like a, like I said, that was a central hub. You got New York, you know, and just everything comes into that area, so it was real populated at one time they got.
Speaker 2:they got waterways and stuff. I never paid attention. I don't remember.
Speaker 1:They just like I said, that mill was huge like ours, but it was actually. I think it might've been bigger, I don't know, it might've been about the same, I don't know. But you go there now it's all grass and just tore out. Oh, they ripped it all out, not all of it, but most of it. Yeah, really yeah.
Speaker 2:You think they're going to do that here? Yeah, they should. Yeah, I feel like that's probably the right move.
Speaker 1:It's either go 100% and open it up, put the money in it whatever it costs, or just end it.
Speaker 2:You. The problem is, I think, like you said, where they've got to turn it to grass. I think that's the problem, Because once they're done with that mill, it's going to have to sit like 50 years or something.
Speaker 1:No, that didn't take that long over there. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:Grass growing and shit, no, no grass will grow, but you won't be able to develop on it for like 50 years. Oh, yeah, yeah, they won't let you because the EPA soil testing.
Speaker 1:unless you want to like, pull all that soil out and like take it somewhere and treat it and bring some other dirt in and all that well, there was a guy that had a machine.
Speaker 2:I'd have to look that up. He had a machine and this is like going back into like 90s. He had it where he could go into places like that and literally like grate the soil and it would like the. The soil would actually come up in the machine, clean up and then re-drop back down Because he was using it to do landfills when they had landfills. That was the machine. He had built it, developed it and it was literally he was bringing I don't know whatever. I know he was doing the landfills with it for sure, like making nice topsoil, clean topsoil on top of the landfills. But I don't know, maybe, maybe you did the one at valley view well where it's all cave in asia yeah, well, they had all that methane gas and they shut that down.
Speaker 2:Remember? They bet that's crazy over there where they built all that it's just still brand new.
Speaker 1:Just sitting there, yeah, just still sitting up with it yep, looking at it on the top of the hill.
Speaker 2:Yeah, getting a swing at it when you're at the. What is that place called top top golf?
Speaker 1:you're right there looking at it when you're at top golf you gotta worry about it exploding and shit.
Speaker 2:No wait, it's probably a little further, but um further away yeah, youngstown was.
Speaker 1:It was real popular, like in 87. There was a lot of action out there, as in hot, like I don't know. There's a lot of shit going on. I used to go out there when I was a kid in the 80s got my license and shit. I'd run out there to see family and it was popular back then.
Speaker 2:It was like banging back then, oh yeah, because I mean I was there, like when I'm saying I was there probably like 95 it was. It was pretty depleted at 95. But it was dangerous.
Speaker 1:Like real dangerous, like bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's not good. No, lorraine, lorraine, lorraine's never been real dangerous, but it does have.
Speaker 1:It's got its moments.
Speaker 2:It's got its moments, but it's never been. And I remember, like probably like eight years ago or something like that. I remember seeing like a news article it like eight years ago or something like that. I remember seeing like a news article it was like the first homicide in Lorain in like two years. I couldn't believe it. I'm like two years. We went two years without a homicide. Wow, I was shocked.
Speaker 1:I don't think Youngstown had two days without a homicide. It was bad.
Speaker 2:When I was a kid I would watch the news. That's how stupid I was. I was a little boy. Now I'm talking four or something. I was like on a dial TV, okay okay, get to the point. All right. I remember watching it and thinking why do these people keep going to gunpoint? Because they were getting robbed at gunpoint.
Speaker 1:So you thought they were going to it.
Speaker 4:I'm like if you keep getting robbed, why would you go there? It doesn't make sense. Sense. People always get robbed at gunpoint. Why are you going there? I didn't understand.
Speaker 1:I guess I don't know ain't it weird, like little stupid things you remember, like just yeah, because when you figure it out you feel so stupid.
Speaker 2:That's what it is. Once you like, you're like oh damn it. You're like you're mad at yourself for even like thinking and even though you're four years old, you're still mad at yourself that you didn't get it right. You know what I mean? I know like that we were talking about it yesterday, like the one guy that come into work, his name's rob, when he was a carpenter and we were working over there. We're building the fourth floor tower over there. We were redoing it at uh, we it's, I think it's now. We used to call community hospital back in the day. But and on the far west end, those four floors there, we were there for a couple years working on that and he was one of the carpenters there and I was there. And the one morning he comes in and he's just got this like like, kind of like goofy look on his face but kind of like a grin or whatever, and he goes, he, he goes. He's telling me that he's trying to spell words with his kids at home.
Speaker 4:He goes, and I told him it was thermometer he was a grown man and this happened the night before and he, he was so distraught from here, remembering, saying that that the next morning he's bringing it up to me. I barely even knew him at that time. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:That it was thermometer that he had said because he felt so stupid, you know. So that might be what it is. You just feel so dumb. You might. You know you ever did anything like that every day every day you do that I don't. The one that really sticks with you.
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:Really I have I've done a lot of them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just like weekly, but I'm just saying I don't have one that sticks with me.
Speaker 2:I do some of them. I remember being like 11 or 12 years old in church and they were doing like they were doing like a quiz, something like that, and they said they said what, what, what's on found on a man and not a woman? And I blurted out penis.
Speaker 1:He said that one before still sticks with me.
Speaker 4:I still think about like god damn it. How did I say that I'm so stupid? All right, I think we're gonna get. Hopefully it's gonna stop raining, I don't know. Still think about it Like God damn it. How did I?
Speaker 2:say that I'm so stupid. All right, I think we're going to get. Hopefully it's going to stop raining. I don't know, I doubt it. Enjoy the day. It's supposed to be, no, I think. By noon. I think it's supposed to be gone. Yeah, I think so. I think I'm going to head home and play with I got a new pressure washer, I got an electric one, those things are they any good or no?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I haven't messed with one, really.
Speaker 2:You've never messed with an electric one at all. No, pretty nice size one, though it's like 3,200 PSI Technology.
Speaker 1:Man Never know, it's probably great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it wasn't that cheap. I could have bought a gas one for the same price, but I just thought, boy, it'd be nice to just plug it in, especially on a patio. We could plug it in, not worry about if it starts, if the oil mixtures or anything. You know what I'm saying, just do it. So I grabbed it and I want to do the back of the house and stuff. There's some green stuff growing on there, amanda, that's why amanda wanted it, and then I want to bring it up here and do the patio. I might do it tomorrow morning, maybe while we're while we're not busy. But yeah, I guess it's time to get out of here for anybody who's still watching it. Don't look like there's many.
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