Ep. 40 Using EFT to bypass the mind and get into the body (with special guest Noelle Satisfies Souls)

Unlock the power of your body's energy system with Noelle Satisfies Souls, an EFT (emotional freedom technique) practitioner and trauma release coach.  Noelle and I dive into how tapping into your body's meridians can help dissipate anxiety, stress, depression, and bypass the mind to get into the body. 


Join me for an intimate conversation with Noelle as we shine a light on the importance of emotional awareness and the courage to face our feelings head-on. We'll discuss the societal pressures that often lead us to bottle up our emotions and how EFT can offer us a direct line to emotional healing, circumventing the logical brain and tapping into the body’s energy directly.


Finally, we delve into the heart of emotional healing, discussing the critical role of self-love and acceptance. Discover how tapping can become a vehicle for confronting inner fears, encouraging self-awareness, and ultimately embracing a journey toward self-fulfillment.

If you want to connect further with Noelle, you can connect with here at https://www.noellesatisfiessouls.com or heal@noellesatisfiessouls.com

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Transcript

Erin: 0:00

You're listening to Generate a Life Well-Lived Podcast. I'm your friend and confidant, Erin Gray. I'm a former certified financial planner, turned human design, financial mentor and guide to entrepreneurs. I believe our money and our business can only thrive at the level of our emotional well-being. I empower entrepreneurs to feel confident with their money and in their business so that they can have fun now and in the future.

Erin: 0:24

On this podcast, we will explore all things money, business and self-development, including human design. I hope you enjoy the journey where I share everything that I know and am continuing to learn along the way, as I honor my heart's desires while inspiring and encouraging you to do the same. Ok, my friends, so excited to be here and I've got Noelle Satisfye-Souls on the podcast today and she is a worthiness and trauma release coach who uses EFT in her practice, and today we're going to be talking all things EFT and what is it? Why would we want to use it? How does it help us? All the things. So, first and foremost, Noelle, thank you for coming sharing your time and your knowledge with us.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:08

Thank you, erin, this is so exciting.

Erin: 1:11

So let's start off with what is EFT and just like, let's just dive in Like tell us all the things.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:20

EFT, I would say, is a newer therapeutic practice Coming on the scene, but it's actually been around since maybe I mean that is newer 1990. Ok, in the realm of therapy it is newer and it's more of like an energetic modality using acupressure points, similar to acupuncture in that way. So basically we are activating certain points in the body that line up with energy hotspots in the body to get some sort of relief. So it's amazing for anxiety, stress, depression, it's huge for weight loss these days and for healing purposes is how I use it the most and I think it's most beneficial, because what we are doing with EFT or tapping, is really trying to change belief and behavior.

Erin: 2:30

And I don't know if you said this, and maybe I was but did we talk about what EFT stands for?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 2:38

Hmm.

Erin: 2:39

What is it?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 2:40

Yeah, eft stands for Emotional Freedom Technique, and the technique is literally tapping on the different hotspots, which is why we will just say tapping.

Erin: 2:54

Yeah.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 2:54

Go ahead.

Erin: 2:58

Did you have a follow-up question? I was going to say so for the listeners. And if you're watching on YouTube, like actually show us like you and I've had a session and we tapped just with my fingers, tapping like this and I've also tapped before. And then, if you want to share and like, show the listeners like where are those and why are they there? And like kind of just break it down from the science standpoint of like why do we tap in these areas?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 3:26

And then you know, yeah, so in the body, energetically speaking, we do have those meridians or energy hotspots. It's where a lot of our biological, physiological circuitry runs through. So our veins, arteries, lymph system, they run along the same lines, but on an energetic or maybe spiritual level we also have lines of energy running in the same pattern, and so when you bridge all those different parts of us together, we just notice that correlation, that it's just this one large system of wiring, and so that is what we're trying to activate with the tapping. So, like you mentioned, erin, we do it like this, just having the motion concentrated in the fingertips, but then there's also what we'd call body tapping. So you're tapping on different spots and those are going to be the energy hotspots. The concentration of energy is running through the meridian, and so there's kind of like a gamut of areas that you would run through, and what we're doing is we're really trying to hit the concentration areas of energy.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 4:54

So if something happens to us, we experience some kind of event that was unsavory. There are different parts of our system experiencing it and on an energetic level what is happening is that it causes build up in an area, so the energy is no longer flowing, and there are different modalities to help restart the flow of energy, and tapping is one of them, but what's interesting, this is happening on a physical level also. So there's a huge correlation between, let's say, ibs symptoms and past or childhood trauma, and so people don't know these correlations where it's our entire systems being affected in different ways. But when you really look and line them up, there is that patterning. So I forgot where I started. Where did I start with this?

Erin: 5:57

Just one is the showing, like when you say meridians and then go ahead and then where actually do we tap. I think sometimes and I always go back and compare, old Aaron would have been like what, what is this? And I think for the understanding and the knowledge if we understand something sometimes we're more likely to it kind of opens right the doorway of what is this, how does it work, how? And so when you say meridians, you're also using the word energy, hotspots, interchangeably. And so going back to emotions, energy and motion, when we like energy is just constantly moving within us, like emotions is just energy.

Erin: 6:47

And you said sometimes you're using IBS, which we could go down the whole rabbit hole of health and like emotions, but with our emotions, I don't think a lot of us understand that if we don't express it, if we don't transform it, get it out, however you want to say, right, we repress it. Most of us repress or suppress or just bypass completely that energy is still in our bodies. And so what I hear you saying is that with the EFT tapping on those certain meridians, those points in our bodies, that allows us to almost break free that energy that has been stuck there.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 7:35

Right, and so maybe bridging the gap in understanding. So let's just say there's a spiritual hypothesis, there is one, but whatever your spiritual worldview is, if it holds space for things like past lives or layers of the body, this will be more palatable for you. But go with me, it would make sense. So this is coming from the Hindu and Vedic traditions, and we call them koshas, and koshas are layers, and so the theory is that the human being is made up of layers, and so the outermost one is going to be what we see when we look at each other, our beautiful faces or physicality. That's the outermost. And then, as you go, layer in to layer in to layer in, those layers get a little bit more precious and fine, and then they require a different kind of handling. But the thing is again, when something happens to us, all those layers are getting affected, and maybe it's because of the way our society is.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 8:46

Now. There's been a lot of emphasis put on one of those layers. So you have a physical, then you're going to have a mental layer, and then in between those two you have an energetic layer, and then the other layers, past the mental layer, they're getting more and more close to what we would say is divine. You know, you're what, the universal oneness within us.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 9:12

So that is the theory, where that's at the center, and then there's like a layer upon a layer upon a layer going outward that make up the human being. So after the mental layer, mental layer moving outward, that's more affected by earthly reality. But then as you get closer to what's divine right, the center, at the core, it doesn't need as much protection from what we're experiencing in the world. So we really want to focus on the physical, the energetic and the mental layer. But again, we put a lot of emphasis on the mental and we know why that is. That's how we were raised, you know, prioritizing logic and rationale and so that, plus, at the same time, we're taught less and less about our bodies, about our emotionality.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 10:01

And I like to think like you were saying. Do you say energy in motion, emotion? That's beautiful. That's beautiful because I think of the energetic layer as energetic slash, emotional, yeah, and it's also our Chi layer. So everything that's happening with us, you know, is the difference between someone who's living in someone who's not. You still have two human beings, but it's that essence that brings us alive. That's what's in the Chi layer. So you're thinking breath, you're thinking energy and you're thinking emotion.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 10:35

So, because we're taught so heavily about mental capacity and prioritizing that, we attach that with safety. So if we're not talk about our other layers and everything is just about the mental layer, when something does happen to us that's traumatizing, we kind of associate with the mental but we forget about the other layers, or we are never aware that work needs to be done there. But again, when something is happening, it's happening to all those layers. So if we're doing the work of like oh, this is something about me that I'm not liking, I would like to get over this behavior, let me go seek assistance. It's going to be a modality that speaks to our mental layer.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 11:26

Talk, therapy, affirmations, even meditation, calming the mind, those are all mental level things and that is going to be very effective on the mental level, but because more things are happening, more things within us are being affected that are not getting dealt with, things will just get stuck and stays. So because we're moving, as my spiritual guide would say, we're just moving a little chi, that's all we're doing. We're moving a little chi with the tapping that is speaking to our emotional level, and so it's like a bringing the pieces together, doing stuff to facilitate and ease whatever the mental went through, or the mental iteration of the memory, things to assuage what's going on energetically. And then you also want to be doing things that help you out physically, because all those layers are being affected. So we have to undo what was done across all those layers or levels.

Erin: 12:28

Yeah. I love that Because I think yeah, because I think a lot of times people or we're taught, like you already said, right, like in society, it's like, oh well, we go talk to someone, but that keeps us and I know our head is part of our body.

Erin: 12:41

And also it's very logical, rational, right. First is what I think EFT does is it kind of bypasses the mind and it just gets just straight into the body. Right, and just as an example, you know, like when I, when Noel and I were doing my session, and you know, some of the things that we were working through, is just like this, this ability to say and be exactly who I am right, because a lot of us, right, have been brought up with like, don't say this, act this way, right, and that's that. I don't want to say stuff, but that's the word that's coming to mind like get stuck in there.

Erin: 13:20

And so it's not like we're talking to the 43 year old Aaron, right, we're talking when we're doing this work of EFT. We're talking to the 10 year old, the 12 year old, right that, that, that something occurred, an instance happened, and then that emotion was elicited, and then it, and then I call it like trapped right, like trapped emotions, so maybe you can talk about that, but like it is a way to bypass the mind and then to just it's just like a fast track, right, like to get into the body, right, yeah, yeah, to get into the body. And so you know why? Why do you want to explain? Why do our emotions and maybe this isn't the best way to explain it, but why do they get trapped?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 14:07

They get trapped because we have become disconnected from our bodies, and so it goes back to those that layering. They're meant to work together, or mental and or physical and or emotional. Those pieces are meant to work together. But how many times have we heard, let's say, we're a little boy, or you know, strong, black female syndrome. You know, you know, don't, you can't be weak and you can't cry. Stop crying, don't cry, but. And then that that causes a feeling of, oh, you know, well, there's something wrong with me, you know, yeah, yeah, First of all, who loves me is telling me crying is not acceptable, and so we'll stop that down to be accepted. So we stuff it down where we don't have to deal with it.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 15:01

But when we're doing that, we don't get to understand what's happening, we don't get to learn the system, and so we develop, of course, a fear of what we're hiding from, yeah, and we just get disconnected. It's not safe, feeling is not safe. What if they overtake me? What if I get overwhelmed? What if I can't control? Control is a huge part of this whole thing, and when we're in our minds we feel okay, you know, at least I got control, I have a good grasp on the situation. You know, I don't want to look weak and be in my body and feel, but it just has to work together.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 15:41

If you are an embodied human being which is something I say often your hair as consciousness in a human body, you're going to have to use it, it has to be a part, it has to be integrated for you to be healthy. So that's what the problem is is that disconnects that happen and you can tell. You know, you're like feeling uncomfortable, you're like no, no, no, I don't want to feel that. What is that? No, and so we just jump up here and we stop, like the breath gets shallower yeah, I was going to say shallower, okay and it gets caught in the chest. That's Emma, hi, emma.

Erin: 16:22

No, I was having to babysit and she didn't plan for it. So for dog sitting and Denise and Nuff, you're sitting right now.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 16:33

Yes, but we get disassociated. For safety, we do that, we want to understand, we want to control, we don't want to feel like the weak link in any capacity. So the system has to work together, otherwise things get stuck. Yeah, we have to do the undoing on all the different layers and because emotionality is linked with weakness, that's something that's shoved down and in. Yeah, absolutely the answer of the question yeah.

Erin: 17:05

Gabbermotte talks about this. He talks about trauma and he talks about, like, what actually is trauma and he defines it and I'm paraphrasing. But he just says it's like a disassociation, it is a betrayal of yourself to stay connected to someone, mostly your caretaker or your parent. And so, like you're saying, when we deny what we're feeling like, stop crying, don't be scared, stop whining we are denying our feelings in that moment so that we don't lose or break connection with the person. I mean, let's just be honest, our parents, caretakers. It is safety, they feed us, they put roof over our head and then if you go back genetically, like if you did speak out from the tribe, that did mean death. So there is a in ourselves. There is that survival based need to belong, to connect, because connection equals safety and food and housing and all of those things that we need to right, to survive.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 18:21

So to say a little bit more about why the emotions get trapped. So we're disconnecting. Obviously I said that a million times, sorry for the repetition, but we lose the ability to self-regulate. We forgot what that is like. Like if you just watch babies and you had one, so let me know if this is accurate Boom, she would breathe, her belly would expand out first.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 18:52

You know that's how babies breathe, because that's how we naturally breathe, and it's when we go into fight, flight or freeze that the sympathetic nervous system turns on, and when that happens, people, like everything else, kind of turns off.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 19:11

When your sympathetic nervous system turns on, you're telling the body alert, alert, we're in danger, there's no time to eat, there's no time to digest or food, there's no time to sleep. We just need to run or kill something. So it's all of this adrenaline, and then everything else we need to function is shut down. The thing is, though, we're in a time where we get in that state by being stuck in traffic, and we stay there the entire day. It's meant to be like a temporary state. We're supposed to switch back to rest and digest, parasympathetic, where or functioning or internal functioning turns back on, but we don't get there, and so that's what the shallowness of breath is and all of those things, or energy is getting stuck mind and then like chest, and we need it to be all the way, flowing up and down the center channel, your meridians. It needs to be flowing energy for anything to heal, for anything to be released.

Erin: 20:20

Yeah, and so I just want to circle back to because the sympathetic nervous system you said this, but like always remember, like the S and the S right Sympathetic nervous system is our stress. Right, like that is a healthy state to be in when we need it to be there. Right, like back in the day when you were having to fight, when you were having to run, and like you already said. But most of us actually live in that state on a consistent daily basis. Right, and you said it.

Erin: 20:51

Like being in traffic, looking at your monthly financial statement in your business or your credit card statement in the, from your personal standpoint. Right, or you're late to an event or just there's so many things that you are living in on a consistent basis from the stress in being in the sympathetic nervous system and you're at this elevated state all the time and your body isn't meant to stay at that state for a consistent amount of time. Right, like you said, going back to the parasympathetic with the rest and digest with. I would call it more like relaxed. Right, like it's just like when you're thinking about when you're eating in order for you to be able to have nourishment and food. Right, like to take in the nourishment from the food you're eating. You have to be in that state and a lot of us stay in the opposite right. We're in that sympathetic, stressed state the majority of the time.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 21:51

And that's where the physical aspects of the problem starts. You know, whether we connect the emotional and the physical symptoms or not, that's what's happening. So we don't, we're unable, we've shut off our ability to digest food properly, and this is something that builds over time, you know Cause. Then we have to cope with it, because life is gonna continue to life when we have a tummy ache. So we do what we need to do, but it's just we build this cycle of being dependent on the behavior, the coping strategies that already take care of the problem, and those coping strategies keep us again in our head. So, again, everything that's in the body just gets trapped there, cause it's not getting enough attention. And I think that was a shorter version of what we were trying to get to.

Erin: 22:37

That's okay. And I wanna say for those of you listening, because Erin, several years ago, would have heard this podcast and would have been like going down the shame spiral of like, oh I'm noticing what I'm doing and then having all of this shame and guilt around what I'm doing to my body and you know what I've done, and all of these things, and that isn't the goal. The goal is to bring awareness right To. Okay, this is what I may be in and these are the tools that I can use to help me be in a more balanced state.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 23:16

We have to honor that. We don't know what we don't know.

Erin: 23:19

Yes.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 23:21

We have to forgive ourselves for the things we didn't know, and it's a part of the healing, that self-improvement piece. I'm like tempted to do some tapping for that right now, but we'll do it, I guess, after we talk about the methodology, like you were trying to do earlier. We'll do that.

Erin: 23:39

Yeah, so when? I guess that would be a good. You know, questions that I have is like when can we use it, how do we use it, or how do we know when we want to use it? You know, like that would be a perfect example of like, if you're noticing that shame or that guilt come over you, like this is a perfect time to stop right and to be like, okay, because this is coming back from childhood. Right, Like you did something you didn't notice. You probably got in trouble for it or got reprimanded, or you know, nobody can make us feel shame and guilt, and also people say things and then that elicits a response and an emotion within our bodies. Right, and so, yeah, go ahead.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 24:28

When we can use it. This is a depends question, but in large it's whenever you want. So I do feel like tapping is most effective when you're pairing it with spoken word. So if you are, you know, in a conference room I mean, we don't really do that in person anymore, I guess so you could just be, you know, your camera off, and then you can do it, it's fine. But it is something that you want to speak while you're tapping, and we're gonna get into that a little bit more, but essentially, you have it at your command whenever you need it, which is what's so great to do. This is a great way to find the C word control. You know, this is how we really regain control, by figuring out how to self-regulate, and you can do that whenever it's needed. So, did you have questions or anything For?

Erin: 25:28

those of us that, like I think, those of us that are in the self-development world, we throw around words and we think everyone else knows those words right, Versus when we say self-regulate what does that mean to you Like? How do you use that word with your clients?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 25:46

So self-regulation, that's the most important tool that you as an individual have. You know for yourself for being out in the world, and by that I mean, when you get triggered, the ability to bring yourself back to neutral. When you're highly in any kind of unsavory state, you have the ability to get back to neutral. You know with a reason If we're talking about an emotional or an energetic trigger. So you know, not like we're not gonna go into the negative example, but yeah, like how quickly can you get back to baseline?

Erin: 26:28

How quickly can you get back to maybe that parasympathetic state, or would that be a fair?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 26:36

Yeah, a really good question and I think the most correct answer would be depends on the level of the trigger.

Erin: 26:43

Yeah.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 26:45

But the biggest and most important tool or step is awareness, yeah, and knowing that you want to be back in a state that you feel like you have a level of autonomy, you know, not like you've been swept away by your emotion or by the situation, or you are.

Erin: 27:05

It might be a justified reaction, but you not wanting to be there, like I want to feel that, like I have agency over myself, yeah, and I want to say here too, of I heard this years ago and I thought, or I interpreted as I need to get to base, I need to get back to how I was feeling before, I was triggered as quickly as possible, and what I want to encourage everyone is it is not to bypass what you are feeling Like. I'll give you guys an example. Like the other night, there was a conversation that Jason and I my husband and I had, right, and then he went and did the exact opposite of what we had talked about, and so in that moment, right, I was upset, and so, if I was trying to hurry up and push myself to get back to baseline, I wasn't ready to get back to baseline, right, I wanted to feel angry, I wanted to feel upset, because that is the emotion that I was experiencing, and I think sometimes we hear, you know, we hear these things and then we use it against ourselves versus to enhance our lives. We use it as another tool or weaponry against us. Like, well, I shouldn't be mad.

Erin: 28:27

It's like, no, you absolutely should be mad, because that is the emotion that's coming up and out of you in this moment, right, and so what I want to encourage each of you is to be be aware of what is the emotion or what I mean. You don't even have to know the emotion, it's just like, where is the sensation in your body that you're feeling this, and allow for this to come up and out. Like you know, he said like do you want to talk? And I'm like absolutely not. Right now. I want to be mad. Let me be mad, right and we've worked on that right Like it's okay to be mad, it's okay to feel anger, and so, allowing yourself to have these emotions and then feel them, work through them, allow them, release them and then come back to so it's not a, it's not a like oh, I feel this way, I need to hurry up and get back here.

Erin: 29:15

It's, I feel this way. I want to feel what I need to feel, release what needs to be released, seen, you know, hear what needs to be all of it right, and then I can get back to my regulation.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 29:31

These things happen in phases, in levels, in steps, and, if we're honest with ourselves, we don't love hearing that we would like to be fixed, healed, back to where we need to be immediately, immediately. Can we have that happen? We can? For it to be sustainable, I don't think so. You know, it is going to always be a process. So this is a good like. This is a good thing to start working on things like self-grace and patience, you know, and at the same time, you're going to feel a difference, because this is how this modality works, and it's going to be maybe jarring or surprising at first, but that's just because we're not used to talking about energy healing or the energetic layer, and that's what's missing. And earlier you had said like. Did you say like a fast track? Or what did you say? That you have to keep providing?

Erin: 30:36

Yeah, like we want to like, oh, it's just a way to bypass, like we bypass the mind and we just get to the body. I think yeah, I think I said fast track right Like, yeah, it's a fast track way to get to the body.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 30:46

Mm-hmm, yeah, and it speeds up the healing because you're addressing all parts of you. So, even though it seems like something silly, like, oh, I'm just tapping on myself and saying something, but then you're like, oh, I feel better, you know, and it works that way because you're bringing the pieces together, it's like connecting circuitry, literally, and then just seeing the whole board light up. That's what's happening, you know. So when can we use it? Whenever we want. How do we do it? So, tapping, especially if you're new to it, we can keep it very simple, okay, and so, literally, you just be tapping all 10 fingers together. And so I said, oh, it's easy. But then I get a little OCD about it, where you wanna make sure that you're tapping with some oomph, okay, mm-hmm, Oomph in there, and you wanna see if it can get the very tops of the fingers tapping together. You wanna make sure you're pinky and your thumbs are in the process. So this is option A. Then you got option B, which we could call the karate chop point. So you make like a kind of like hand and then you're just tapping on the pinky side edge. And then you have the third option, which is to do the body tapping, running the gamut, and so what we're doing is we're catching, kind of like, all the hotspots in the top half of the body, and when you run the gamut, you're actually hitting the hotspots. When you're tapping with the fingertips, just finger tapping, it's kind of a catch-all, because all of the meridians they end in the fingertips. That's why that works so well and that's why this also works so well. So I would always recommend this.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 32:47

If you're just getting started, however, we can go through the actual gamut of the tapping points. How do you feel about doing that? Yeah, sure, okay. So you start at the top of the head, the crown of the head, and you can use both, or you can use one or the other, and then there are going to be some spots where it's awkward to use both hands. But you start at the top. You can just do it for a breath or two. You're going to move to right above your eyebrow just a second. So Erin's doing it with one hand, you can do it with one or both, it doesn't matter, the effect is going to be felt on both sides. Then you're going to come to your temple. There you go, and then a little bit more gently under the eye.

Erin: 33:41

And just so everyone that's listening, that you're not watching on YouTube. You're not doing it super hard, but you're for sure tapping enough to where you feel it.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 33:54

And then you're going to come to the philtrum, cupid's bow, so right underneath the nose, that little soft dip spot. And then you're going to go to the chin and then you're just doing like a mid tempo, tapping 10 or so taps We've probably done 20 by now and then you're going to locate your collar bones, like that area, but it's going to be that dip. There's like a soft little soft spot there. That's what you're tapping on there. Then you're going to find a rib cage, so like right at the breast bone.

Erin: 34:30

I always say like underneath my bra strap for women right Like is that, oh, you're going to your breast bone first.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 34:38

So, like your sternum, yes. And then underneath, like the armpit, so the armpit or the bra, and so that's it, and then you start again at the top of the head.

Erin: 34:54

So let's dive into, because you start off when you're doing this and I always advise, like or suggest I should say suggest that if you're new to EFT, work with someone you know and if Noel resonates with you, reach out to Noel. But like, work with someone for a couple of times to get you to understand like where are you tapping and getting the feeling and like the actual process of doing it. And so I think a lot of times what holds people up is because you actually start when you start tapping. You actually start tapping and saying and I'm air quoting the negative parts, right the things that you don't want to say, yeah, that you don't want to say thank you, I'm like what is the word I want to use? Yeah, that you don't want to say. So, like, let's say, we can use my example for last week, right, like I was saying, like what were some of the things that we were saying that people can understand? Like it was about saying what I wanted to say feeling love, no matter who. Like being feeling safe to say what I want to say even if people disagree, right, like that's kind of what we tapped on.

Erin: 36:04

So some of the some of the like, like, let's just use a what would be the air quotes, negative things that I wouldn't want to, that I would want to start with and that sometimes we don't necessarily want to say, because I think we've been taught in the self development world, right, like, oh well, don't focus on the negative, don't focus on the negative vibration, stay positive. Stay and that is true long term, right, that is true as a baseline emotion If you are feeling fear, if you are feeling anger, if you are feeling stress, if you are feeling resentment on a consistent basis, then what that does to your body and your cells and what you are attracting is going to be more of that. And also, in order to clear and let go of some of that in your subconscious, you say those things to release them. So, the things that I was, that I was focusing on from a negative, I'm trying to remember, like what were we talking about? From a negative air quotes. I'm saying negative because I don't believe in positive or negative, but like a vibration wise, right, like the energy that that was holding was a lower vibration emotion.

Erin: 37:12

So, like did I say? Like what was I saying?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 37:20

Basically, you weren't wanting to revel in a good feeling moment while other people's situations are not good, yeah, yeah. So whatever comes up in your head, you know the mean girl version of us in her head when we think we, you know we have that moment. Something happened throughout the day and we find ourselves just ruminating on it, Like why did I do that? Why did I do that? Why can I say this? That mean girl is who you want to have the microphone when you start and so start, even though and then you, just you bring up the words on it. You bring up, like, the irrationality of the situation and how you're feeling and, like Erin was saying, this is really triggering. But this is the whole point. We do want to feel the trigger and give it some validation, that it comes to the surface. That's the first step of changing. So in that situation, some things were like I don't want to talk about this and I can't really say what I'm thinking.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 38:31

Yeah, Because, how am I going to say this way? You know, yeah, I don't want to have that situation. You know I can't say, oh well, my life is perfect or my life is great, you know. So things like that, just the fears that you're having running in the minds. This is your time to speak them out. And so what I've been saying to clients lately is we're always going to have, especially if you are more cerebral, you do resonate with the mental energy more.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 39:02

And if you've been doing, you know, your fair share of healing work, we get into this. Oh, you know, puppies and rainbows like kind of nice. It wasn't so bad. You know, I can't say how I really feel Like it's a very therapeutic, nice cover up. You know, we're trying to make the situation nicer because we have an understanding. We're like yeah, we know that that person probably had a bad day and a bad start. You know, and they're not a terrible human being, you don't want to do that in tapping, that's not what we're doing here. You really want to give yourself permission to get a little irrational upset, upset like your five year old self. Yeah, you're going to forget the intellect that you are now the rational human being and you want to take it back to the five year old fear, because that is what is causing you to still be triggered right now. That part of it I didn't get dealt with back then Absolutely.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 40:04

You just say whatever comes up, that even feels scary to say, and this is an important piece with tapping, you just say what you feel. I even want to talk about this. I don't want to do this. This is stupid, this is not going to work. Tapping my fingers together this is not working.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 40:21

You know, you say what's coming up, and so a big part of this is resistance and way resistance words. It's very sneaky. It's a very sophisticated system within us that we don't really know we have and knows us very well. So, as you're tapping, this is another reason why we're like just tap here so you can concentrate on the verbage and putting your energy toward finding whatever you need to say these things that's out loud, these scary things that you don't want anyone to know, that you're thinking, just say them, you know, but that takes so much energy. So you want to focus there because there is going to be resistance.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 41:03

You're trying to heal and get over something and your resistance is like no, that's not safe. That's new territory. We don't do new. Yeah, she thinks it's safe. We don't know. We don't know we could get hit by a bus by doing this tapping thing. We're not doing it, we don't know what's going to happen. So we want to speak that whatever is coming up for you, you speak it. You know and I don't want to sound like an insensitive bitch you speak it. Speak it with a tapping Yep, and then I deeply love and accept myself anyways, which I know how it sounds. But we want to consider that again. This is not supposed to make sense to our rationale. We want to make the part of us that's still hurt and stuck and does not feel like it's safe to be seen.

Erin: 41:56

Yeah, because the five year old, the seven year old, the 10 year old, the 12 year old, whatever age it is, that wasn't okay to feel what they needed to feel right Like we are, like you said, bypassing the mind, bypassing that conscious, and getting into the subconscious, getting into the body, getting into that little kid that wasn't validated, wasn't seen, wasn't heard, and you are doing that for yourself now.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 42:23

And so yeah, and so to really have like a successful tapping session, it's not super complicated. You want to tap your fingers together, take a deep breath and be honest with yourself first. Honest with yourself, honest about the situation. Do you know that meme of the dog sitting in the burning flames and he's just like it's fine? It's fine. And that's when he's just like drinking his coffee. And we're not doing that in tapping, not at first. You know you want to really give those flames some attention.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 43:04

You know I don't know how I'm going to do this. I'm stuck in traffic and I told my mom I was going to be on time this time and now I'm late and she's going to hate me forever. I'm such a terrible daughter. You just let all the things, even though they don't make sense, come up. I deeply love and accept myself anyways and I want to know what it feels like to and then you put in what you want to happen. You know and I want to know what it feels like to forgive myself for this. I want to know what it feels like to connect to my body.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 43:40

I want to know what it feels like to give this a try. I want to know what it feels like to love myself. I want to know what it feels like to not punch this guy in the face, whatever it is, whatever you can reach for, you know, that's how you start your practice with yourself. You keep it short, you keep it punchy, you keep it sweet, you keep it real. It's not about perfection. It's not about hitting all the marks. It's about waking up a part of your body and connecting with yourself. In this new way. It's really going to start liberating you from things, things that you need to be liberated from.

Erin: 44:21

Yeah, I always say like when we you know we want to put a band-aid on shit, it's like still shit underneath the band-aid, right Like we actually need to, and Noel's waving her hand like and it smells too.

Erin: 44:35

It's like we have to let those parts of us be seen, right, like it will continue to. If it's not this specific circumstance, then it's going to keep happening until you're able to see it. And able to, you know, they always say, bring it to the light, or to expose it, or to you know, see it and feel it, because it is begging to come up and out. It's just we don't give it the time, we don't give it the space, we don't value those parts of us that weren't seen. And so, you know, I always say like to each of you, like you have to play with this right, like there is no right or wrong way. It is just to physically, you know, get that, like you're saying the meridian part. You know, like tapping, just to keep it simple, just tap, like what Noel says, it's just tap with your fingers, right, like all your fingertips together, just tap and then just say it right, and then do this and then check in with your body, like how do I feel? You know, and some of the things that, noel, you can elaborate on this. But, like, for me, I typically cry, I typically yawn, burping is what happens a lot, but first and foremost it's always crying because it's like, it's like seeing that part, like that's. I think for me, like the crying happens first and then, as I'm, as I've released that then it's the yawning is typically the energy that moves or the burping, but that that initial is always tears.

Erin: 46:04

Tears fall and not to cry. And yeah, I mean, and that's the thing, right, like is allowing the tears to fall. Like we, we want to cry because we haven't allowed ourselves to cry. Like the joke in my house with my husband years ago was like my wife never cries. Like where are all these women crying? Like my wife never cries and it's like, yeah, because I was just shoving everything down right and I didn't give myself the space or the time to cry or allowed myself to cry. But then once I realized like oh, wow, like I've got a lot of stuff that needs to come up and out, right, like crying all the time. Like we cry because we feel love, we cry because I'm angry and frustrated, we cry because I feel hurt, right, like it's okay to cry, like it is.

Erin: 46:49

I always tell my kid, like why do we think crying or pooping is any different than yawning? It's just because we have a story around, yawning over, crying or pooping. It's all a bodily function and sensation, right, and so allowing, allowing the tears to fall like they're meant to. I always say like if you cannot keep, your emotions are like a beach ball. If you're going to try to keep and hold the beach ball underwater, at some point it has to come up, right? So giving yourself. Here we go back to worthiness, right. You're worthy of feeling what needs to be felt. You're worthy of 20 minutes of you and yourself allowing these emotions to come up. You're worthy of the feelings that you're feeling. Right, it's okay to be upset about XYZ, because that was probably something that wasn't okay when you were younger.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 47:50

Going back to being afraid of these things you know, wanting to allow the tears or whatever else comes up.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 47:58

Here's the thing about connecting to the body and about tapping specifically and more about the non-physical part of our bodies connecting with physical, our bodies only going to present something to be worked on, that it is ready to be worked on. He's a part of this team. I know some of you don't believe me. Some of you feel like your bodies are to get you, but they're not. And if it's coming up for you, if you find yourself with Erin or me, it's probably like you're ready to do this work. And so, even if it feels scary, because you're like I'm going to get overwhelmed, I'm going to end up crying the entire day, I'm not going to be able to handle it, you will. Even in the moments, the throws of it, you're like, no, I'm going to die. You're not going to die. It feels that way. But if it's coming up for you, it's because you're ready. Your body is not trying to ambush you.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 49:01

Sometimes I think it's the other way around. With that mind, body, you know. And if you are like I want to trust what you're saying, but I can't, you're like, even though I don't trust what these women are saying, I want to know what it feels like to try it out. This is what it's about Just getting used to trying something new. Yes, I want to know what it feels like to try something new and it'd be okay, yeah.

Erin: 49:32

This is what I always say is like are you willing? Right, like it's not that somebody else has more courage than you or is different than you or more special than you. It is none of that. It's just where is our level of willingness, and some of us in the beginning it's not that much and that's okay. Right, like knowing where your level of willingness is, knowing you know where is your and I've talked about this on previous podcasts like Window of Tolerance, really, like, what can your nervous system handle? Right, like, in simplest terms, like if you've never walked up to a stranger before and asked them for a phone number, that might be outside your window of tolerance. Right, for me, my family thinks I talked too much to everyone. Like my window of tolerance in that regards isn't? That wouldn't be outside my comfort zone, right, and so it's not a problem. Are you more practiced? Right, in feeling these emotions, in doing these things? And you know.

Erin: 50:38

But my window of tolerance, like we talk about money, right, like my window of tolerance was using my funds for some people I might be like that's no problem at all. What is you know? What is? What are you so bothered by? It's like, but that was my, that was my wound, for sure, and that was my oh goodness.

Erin: 51:00

Like that was outside my comfort zone, way outside my comfort zone, right, and so it's just like, where is our comfort zone? We want to go a little bit outside, like we do want to. We do want to stretch it just a little bit, but not so much that it just shuts us down. So maybe, if you're starting and you're learning what this is, maybe it's just a minute of doing this right, seeing what it feels like 30 seconds, dipping your toe in Just a little bit. What is this about? Like, maybe it's just like you looking at more YouTube videos and like researching what this is right, like. So it's. It's where are you along the journey of like, okay, where am I willing? What? What am I willing to explore and look at and also giving yourself the time and the space to feel what needs to be felt when it comes up.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 51:53

Yeah, yes, I like to say that because it's a fun thing to say, but it's true. It took us a while to get where we are as satisfied as we are, you know. So most of the time, it's going to take more than you know tapping a couple of times it's going to take more than a couple of weeks, a couple of. Some of us have been doing this for decades. You know and this is not to be discouraging it's that you are making the little small steps that you need to be making you know, I think that's a.

Erin: 52:35

That's a really good point, because I've had people ask me that are 50, 60, 70 years right?

Erin: 52:41

Like, oh my gosh, if I've got 60 years of anger, is it going to take 60 years of of anger, you know, for me to release it?

Erin: 52:47

And my answer is always probably not right, like no, for sure. No, and also, we're in a mo, we are a human being, right, in a body that has emotion. So when you're doing this, this work you are going to, there is maybe going to be more of a time period, right, where you may feel more anger. Yeah, and also, but you're not going to be angry all the time for the rest of your life to in order to release it, right, or, or there might be sadness, or, but that's all natural, air quotes, whatever normal is right, like that's just part of the process, because you have to think about how many years of sadness you haven't seen, felt allowed to be there, right, and so it's not going to take you the same amount of time that it took you to have it all. And also, yeah, like, like Noelle's saying, and it's also not going to be like, okay, I've done two taps and I'm done.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 53:47

Right, and this is where it gets. It comes back to connecting with the body and beginning to be empowered by knowing yourself. Some people super, super intimidating and scary, and I get it, but it's because of that, like specificity, that Erin is talking about, where it's going to be different Windows of tolerance for each person, and so it is going to slow you down a little bit if you're caught up in a. Well, I should be doing this, I should be getting these results, because Noelle Satisfysoul says that I should be seeing results right here today at 2pm. You know, that's not going to be as accurate as the Intel, the data for my data loving people. That's what you're collecting from your body. It has so much rich data about who you are, how you trap emotions, how you get um, you know, triggered all of that and how you release things. It just takes some re-diverted attention towards self. And again, I get why that's scary, because we've been taught you can't do that. That's selfish. We need to be about everybody else, but it's super important, yeah, and we.

Erin: 55:07

I'm sorry, Go ahead, noelle, and that's it. Yeah, I mean, when you, when you're thinking about the should, when you're thinking about all that you're thinking right, you're not in your body. And so noticing, like celebrating that awareness, oh here I am in, shooting. Okay, that is all mental. That is not the point of EFT. It is to feel the emotions and be there. So just even noticing that like, okay, I'm in my shoulds again celebrating, okay, this is what my mind likes to do, but the whole point is to be in my body, to feel what it feels.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 55:45

And even if it's like, okay, this feels uncomfortable, and then I also want you to ask so, what does discomfort feel like? This is another thing about getting into the body and allowing and having the mind help. This is not about not thinking.

Erin: 56:02

Yeah.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 56:03

Or existing without the mind. Yep, it's about the connectivity all of you together you know, and so it's a good practice to. Okay, I'm anxious, I'm really anxious right now. This talk is making me uncomfortable. Okay, so we have those kind of like surface level mind descriptive words, yeah, and turning them into feeling words, like adjectives hot, cold Is that a tingle sensation? Does it feel heavy? Where is it feeling? Okay, how do I know I'm anxious? Is it because my chest is tight? You know you want to get descriptive. Not. Oh, this is anxiety. What does anxiety feel like in your body?

Erin: 56:55

You know.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 56:56

Yeah, that's a really good practice for allowing the mind to get into the body, you know, because you're giving your mind the task of coming up with these descriptive. It doesn't make you think of a color, but you're focusing on the body.

Erin: 57:10

And it's so important to you. Know, you're saying like I'm feeling. It's just I am feeling anxious. You are not. I am not anxious, right, I am not sad. It's just we are experiencing these feelings in our bodies in this moment and so allowing some of that separation. Right, it's not who you are. Sadness isn't who you are. Anger is not who you are. It's just you're a human being feeling these sensations and like Noel's saying, right, Like it feels tight in my body right now.

Erin: 57:41

It feels tightness in my chest, or it feels very closed off in my chest right now, or my face and my neck is getting really hot. Or, like Noel's saying is like what are those feelings? What is that sensation, what are those? Yeah, like you're saying all that descriptor so you can kind of give it some space. I guess, If that be a good way to describe it, like give it some space of like you. It's almost like you're kind of higher up looking down. That's why I kind of view it right, like oh, what's going on down here? Versus like I'm in it and this is. This isn't me, it's just an experience that I'm having right now.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 58:24

Really well said. It is the difference of like perspective. Yeah, and noticing that separation, I'm not sadness, I am not anxiety. You know I'm experiencing a moment that's making me a little anxious or a lot anxious. You know I'm experiencing some anger. Now you don't have to walk around me like I am experiencing anger, you know, but it's like you don't want to do that separation.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 58:54

You know, you are you the capital Y, I was going to say with a capital U. I have to think about that, the capital Y. And you move through the cycles of things, the cycles of emotion, and they're there to tell you about just how I'm out to geek out, but amazingly knocked together and amazingly calibrated you as an individual are. It is so mind blowing and it's very on purpose. And these things, these emotions, these things that you're going through, are here to tell you something. And so you want to think of EFT and tapping as a tool to get some more information, like get some more of the tea, like what is happening with me, you know, not from a what's wrong with you, it's. I want to understand you being, you know. So, yeah, it's a lot.

Erin: 59:54

I think you can talk about this, for I love it because I always say, like I didn't use to think this way, but our body is our only home. It's the only home we'll ever have, and so, being so loving towards it, and if that's a stretch, you know, you could even just start with like I had to be, like I have a body.

Erin: 1:00:12

Most of human, all of humanity has a body. Right, like I couldn't go to, like I hate myself to, I love myself, right. Here we go back to window of tolerance too much of a stretch for my nervous system. But I was like you know what can't argue with. I got a body here, it is right, and so you know, just noticing and allowing that we do have a body. It is so intelligent, it is here for us, it is our home, and giving it the, the time and the space and the love right that I would say that it needs, right, yeah, absolutely, and and it feels good, right.

Erin: 1:00:51

Here's the thing and I said this on other podcasts and I say this all the time it's not that being loving to yourself is the right way air quotes and that beating yourself up is the wrong way, air quotes. It's just that it feels really, really good in your body when you love yourself, when you talk lovingly to yourself, when you allow yourself to cry, when you need to cry, when you hold yourself because that probably might not have happened to you when you were little or right like it just feels better. And so you, the listener, right, you just get to play with it, you get to see like does it feel better? Do I want to continue to do this? Right, like there's always say like there's no right or wrong, it's just. Here are some ideas for you to explore and what feels good for you.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:01:39

Yeah, and this is I just hear, even though I can hear you guys. But I hear someone out there thinking yeah, but I might do, I like, do I deserve to feel good, you do, oh yeah.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:01:50

Oh you do, and it is such a problem. We've really done some work on ourselves. In this day and age where we are as a species, where we we don't believe in our own deserving or worth, and if you think that's not affecting how you're showing up in the world, oh boy, oh boy is it? You know, and this is this is why you would want to use this technique, even if saying to yourself, oh, I'm worthy of this, or I deserve this, you know, is, if that is too much of a stretch, like you were saying earlier, aaron, you take it in chunks. There is tapping verbiage that says you know, I deeply love and accept myself anyway, and I can see people struggle with that line alone. And if that is you, you add in even if I don't, don't today, you know, because again, you're speaking, you're getting okay, you're getting comfortable with speaking what's there, you know, and that's really important. If you want to, then get over it, we're not going to fake positivity, no thing.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:03:04

We're not doing that. We have to address how it's showing up for you specifically, for for us to get you specifically the relief that you specifically need, you know, yeah, so it's so important to just speak. What's there if you're not loving yourself in the moment? And I want to know what it feels like, because don't you? Don't you want to know what it feels like to love yourself? If you don't know what that feels like right now, I want to know what that feels like. I hear that it's nice.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:03:30

I want to experience that you know whatever you can reach for it is good enough that day. Happy fingers together. Even though I don't want to do this I don't want to get out of bed today I deeply love and accept myself anyways. Even if I don't, maybe next week, I will want to deeply love and accept myself anyways. I know this is triggering for some people to hear, but again, it's taking one baby step forward instead of trying to take on too much at once. That doesn't feel authentic. Yeah, yeah.

Erin: 1:04:03

I love that and I always say like we have we have more than five senses, but our five senses, right Like, it's for pleasure, it's for fun, it's, you know, like we use our nose to smell beautiful things, we have vision to like see amazing things that bring us pleasure and taste and touch and hearing, right Like, all of it and our emotions is is for pleasure, it is for fun.

Erin: 1:04:26

And so, like you said, I mean we've been brought up and like that struggle and that, like our bodies, like you're saying in this intuitiveness is like when we aren't feeling, when we are feeling those lower vibration emotions, that is telling us that we are off course, right, like because we are sent here to have fun, to feel pleasure to I got body chills just saying it like just feeling good. Right, we're meant to feel good and so it's our little flashlight, right To be like I'm off course, right Like if I'm frustrated, you know like I think about Erin. Four years ago, frustration was probably my primary emotion I felt on a daily basis. Yeah, that was showing me some things are off right, we're not. We're not on course with what, what we came here for. So it's.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:05:20

It's terribly important, so important to just know and being able to tell what's going on with you. There's just so much data there, so much data.

Erin: 1:05:28

Yeah, we're laughing because zoom keeps freezing. Okay, so is there anything else that you want to say? Or you haven't said, that I haven't asked you, or that you want to comment on?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:05:40

Give it a go. If you're not, if you're skeptical, you're literally just tapping your fingers together. Yeah, see how it feels. Yeah, that's someone to do it with you. Perhaps you know, give yourself the opportunity to try something that might shift something for you. You know it doesn't work. Doesn't work even though it will. You can always go back. Want to? Yeah, so that's the only thing I would say no.

Erin: 1:06:10

Well, thank you so much. We'll probably have another podcast on worthiness, deserving and all the things, oh yeah.

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:06:17

That's gonna have to take a week long event.

Erin: 1:06:21

So tell, tell everyone. Where can they find you? Learn about you. What would you love to share?

Noelle Satisfies Souls: 1:06:26

How you can find me at worthinessembodiedcom. I am on Instagram at Noel Satisfies Souls. There's not much to see there right now, but you know, stay tuned. Yeah, see what's going on there.

Erin: 1:06:42

Okay, I'll put it all. I'll put it all in the show notes and, yeah, thank you so much for all of your time, all of your knowledge, all of it, of course.