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Episode #87 Ronald B. Wayman Healing Journey: From Health Challenges to Life Brain Integration Expertise – Embracing Energy Kinesiology, Holistic Healing, and Spiritual Business Practices
Have you ever wondered how to align your heart, mind, body, and soul for true healing? Join me, Tracy Searight as I welcome Ronald B. Wayman a life brain integration specialist with over thirty years of experience in guiding people towards inner congruence. Ronald dives into his journey, sparked by health challenges and transformative mentors, leading him to energy kinesiology. Learn about his unique approach that combines nutrition, sensory integration, and emotional processing to help individuals achieve total alignment.
Are you curious about the myths surrounding energy work like Reiki and acupuncture? This episode tackles common misconceptions and highlights the importance of both physical and mental aspects in holistic healing. Ronald shares invaluable wisdom from his client interactions, emphasizing how every challenge can be a growth opportunity. We also provide insights into what qualities to look for in energy workers and traditional Eastern healing methodologies, ensuring you make informed decisions on your healing journey.
Do you struggle with balancing spirituality and business? Ronald offers practical advice for aspiring healers, encouraging self-practice, continuous learning, and setting fair prices for their services. Discover his contributions to the Empower Life Kinesiology school and its collaboration with advanced scientific training from Australia. As we celebrate Ronald’s remarkable healing journey, we invite you to connect with him online and explore his insightful books, ensuring you don’t miss out on this transformative experience.
Ronald B. Wayman has devoted the past three decades to passionately coaching individuals to empower their inner storylines to become their best selves. As an Empowerlife Brain Integration Specialist, a licensed massage therapist, Empowerlife Kinesiologist and Emotional Coach, Neuro-Energetic Kinesiologist, and Food Enzyme Consultant, Ron underscores the significance of empowerment and congruency within the heart, mind, body, and soul. He wrote a brain integration and mindfulness self-help book called Life Centering. He enjoys teaching Life Centering techniques to family, friends, and clients. He is the founder of the Sensory Dynamics Center and co-founder of Empowerlife Kinesiology; a body and mind energy school. He helped create a spice blend, herbal blends, and essential oil blends for health and brain/body integration.
Ronald Wayman and Denise Wayman Scholes are co-founders of Mindbody Dictionary, which helps bridge the gap of understanding the powerful connection between the mind and the body.
Ron's extensive work integrates applying breakthroughs in body energy systems, integrated body movements, brain neuroscience, nutrition, sensory integration, focused emotional processing, and motivational heart-mind empowerment. Constantly exploring new techniques rooted in traditional eastern healing methodologies, he empowers practitioners to experience and facilitate remarkable physical, emotional, and energetic alchemy. He wants people to find the truth within their body, heart, and mind, which brings them back to their authentic soul. Ron and his wife, Janette, are proud parents of six children and grandparents of 18.
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Ready Set Reiki is a journey
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This is Ready Set Reiki, a podcast about Reiki, the universal energy life force, From the curious beginner to the seasoned master teacher, welcoming all systems, all lineages and all levels. Reiki is a journey and not a destination, and on this Ready Set Reiki journey, we refer to ourselves as guides, as we too are traveling, learning from each other and supporting each other as well. And with that said, I am your guide, tracy C Wright, and joining me on this journey today is Ronald B Waman. Now, ronald has devoted the three past decades to passionately coaching individuals to empower their inner storyline to become their best selves.
Speaker 2:As an empowered life brain integration specialist, a licensed massage therapist, an empowered life kinesiologist and emotional coach, neuro energetic kinesiologist and food enzyme consultant, ron underscores the significance of empowerment and congruency within the heart, mind, body and soul. He wrote a brain integration and mindfulness self-help book called Life Centering. He enjoys teaching life centering techniques to family, friends and clients. He is the founder of the Sensory Dynamic Center and co-founder of Empowered Life Kinesiology, a body and mind energy school. He helped create a spice blend, herbal blends and essential oil blends for health and brain body integration. Ronald Wyman and Denise Wyman schools are co-founders of Mind Body Dictionary, which helps bridge the gap of understanding and powerful connection between the mind and the body.
Speaker 2:Ron's extensive work integrates implying breakthroughs in the body energy systems, integrated body movements, brain neuroscience, nutrition, sensory integration, focused emotional processing and motivational heart-mind empowerment. Constantly exploring new techniques rooted in traditional Eastern healing methodologies, he empowers practitioners to experience and facilitate remarkable physical, emotional and energetic alchemy. He wants people to find the truth within their body, heart and mind, which brings one back to their authentic soul. Ron and his wife, jeanette, are proud parents of six children and grandparents of 18. Welcome, ron, to Ready Set Reiki.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you, it's good to be here. Yeah, with all that, I don't know what else I can say. That's quite a mouthful.
Speaker 2:That was quite a mouthful right.
Speaker 3:Very great, Thanks Well with, with.
Speaker 2:That said, tell me about yourself okay, I'll do that.
Speaker 3:Actually, when you read that I was listening. Did you add in the mind body dictionary in one of the books that you mentioned?
Speaker 3:you said life's? You probably did. I was hearing so much and and. So because that's how we got onto the show, because we just released MindBody Dictionary and I'm very proud of my niece, denise Wayman-Skolls, who helped me work through it and get it done, and I'm really excited. So a little bit about myself.
Speaker 3:I've been in this work over three decades and having lots of fun and, of course, lots of learning, and my parents were already into health and they have uncles that were chiropractors. My father started on that path and went another one, but I took another path for a while and I ended up becoming an energy kinesiologist and because I wanted to go down a little different path with emotions and meridians and energy work, and I went and did my work with reiki for a short time and and then with other techniques I've I don't know how many classes I used to take and books I've read I was counting up all the books that I've read over the years and I kept finding more books and more books and more books. So but I I found that I started this work partially because of what happened to myself and my wife Several years ago. She had issues with a pregnancy that caused skin rashes that they couldn't resolve, and it took us several doctors to figure out, and they eventually gave her prednisone while she was pregnant, and then, later, when I did this work, I started to figure out actually what happened, putting two and two together in my research, because three of the pregnancies she had a very severe boils it was boils on her body and also I had health problems throughout my life, injuries and other issues that caused a lot of pain. So I had quite a bit of pain, and so this work came about in my seeking, partially because of that, due to pain and health reasons and ultimately, though, a man walked into my life in a business I had several years ago.
Speaker 3:Man walked into my life in a business I had several years ago, and he started to talk in ways that very much interested me about the mind, about spirituality, and I started to take interest in what he had to say and I started to think differently, and, and so most of my work is centered around helping people transform their thinking and their sensing and feeling into a unified form in the body.
Speaker 3:So, whether I'm working on meridians, or whether I'm doing chakras, or whether I'm helping them with their nutrition because I've studied nutrition extensively too, helping them with their nutrition because I've studied nutrition extensively too. It all comes back to a oneness of the mind, the heart and the body, and so when I'm doing classes or seeing people privately, they really want to get it. They really want to understand why they're stuck, because, no matter what, you could have the most perfect product for them or the perfect energy for them, but if they're still stuck in their belief system and they can't really get it, or they're stuck in their grief, in their heart, or their body has memories in their cells that are stuck, it's going to really take them a long time. So I spend a lot of time massaging it energetically and mentally and emotionally. So, anyway, there you go.
Speaker 2:So would you say that this work found you or you found this work?
Speaker 3:I think it's more. It found me in some ways because I mean, obviously, obviously I started to seek answers when we had our health problems and and and we did go to the standard places medically and alternative. But you know, when people started walking into my life and I remember this one codependency book that came out and I started reading it, that's when codependency was new I mean, this is back in 1980s and and it was just like what. And this guy walked into my life. And then this other man that I mentioned, max, he, he was just there and all of a sudden I went whoa. And so I think I think, in some ways, when it, when it came, it came. And then I remember the first class I took on emotional processing and I went wait, I heard it's like I already knew how to do the whole procedure, it's like it was a knowing and I was coming home, basically wonderful, wonderful, so you would say, that led you to make these connections.
Speaker 2:you know, integrating body movements, the brain, neuroscience, nutrition, sensory integration, focused emotional processing, this motivational heart, mind empowerment, all that you've learned on this journey, from all these synchronicities, it's just amazing.
Speaker 3:I mean, you brought up movements again and thank you because I have a whole workshop based on that, because that's a part of it, and the sensory is a part of it and the mind is a part of it. So actually I don't think we ever need to stop learning. I mean, why stop? Why not keep expanding and growing ourselves?
Speaker 2:Sure, sure, and it wasn't mentioned in your intro, but we chatted a little bit before and you said that you did have a little bit of experience in your journey with Reiki, even though you may not be using it to the fullest extent now, but it was a part of your journey, correct?
Speaker 3:Um, I, I remember, uh, one of my clients said that it was appropriate for me to at least have level one. So I went through level one after I had started the work and then I went to retreat and someone else said to me uh, you need to do level two and three because of the type of work you're doing. I said, okay, like you said, it kind of shows up, and but every day that I work with people, I mean it is similar to the Reiki field. The way I experience Reiki is you're connecting to dimensions of people's fields and understandings and sometimes I get visual, sometimes I have body sensations, sometimes I have understandings of the mind that Reiki practitioners do. They go in, they go into a realm. I do craniosacral I didn't mention that and that's a similar field to Reiki, but different, I mean, obviously, but you're getting a vibration of resonance, looking at the dissonance and bringing them back home.
Speaker 2:So you know, Right, it's all energy work right. It gets that heart, mind, the body, the soul. It helps with imbalances right In the body. That's all all energy work Right. It gets that heart, mind, the body, the soul. It helps with imbalances Right and the body. That's our goal Getting things in balance. So we're getting kind of, yeah, the same end goal here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we are.
Speaker 2:Wonderful, wonderful. So in your work, you know you've been doing this now. For what? Three decades? What is a common misperception about your work?
Speaker 3:what? Three decades? What is a common misperception about your work? Well, obviously the most common misperception is people can't believe that you can touch the body or, you know, be near the body. I know a lot of Reiki don't touch. So I do both. I do acupuncture meridians and then I do chakras and off-body. I do both.
Speaker 3:A lot of people can't believe it. So I always do a little demo on new individuals that show the possibility of having an electrical energy pass through people okay, and help them understand that it exists. So I help take away that visual part of our brain that likes to doubt. You know, if they can't see it, they don't believe it. So that's one thing that happens. They have to see it to believe it for some people, and the irony of this is sometimes if we don't have enough belief, we won't see it.
Speaker 3:The other one that the blockages would be misconceptions is that our mind is so powerful and, even more important than our body is, has so much memory that can negate all the work someone does in cognitive therapy. I have many therapists, social workers, psychologists and others that I've known over the years. Some are still clients and they come to me because they want to blend the body and and and the mind. So a lot of people say, well, yeah, the mind can do it and they forget about the body. And some people say the body can do it, forget about the mind.
Speaker 2:It's actually all of them yeah, it's getting that biofeedback in the body. I love it correct so what is something you wish your younger self knew about your current profession?
Speaker 3:I think when I was going through some of the experiences I had because of I had some trauma that I didn't mention and a lot of people go into this kind of work because of trauma and that there's hope, work because of trauma. And that there's hope Because I for a while there I went into a hopeless and then I went into a denial and I pretended that all of that didn't exist. So I think a hope, you know, way, way back when Also, maybe just a little awareness, but maybe just a little awareness. But when I say that, though in some ways I'm glad I didn't have as much information then as I do now, because that shaped me, that molded me, that obstacle that times a thousand was really important for my resiliency, my determination, my courage, my depth of desire. What happened to my experience may not have happened the same if I had all the answers right, so in some ways it's best that I didn't know that much.
Speaker 2:Right, right, you know, if you think about it, if someone handed you a preview of the chapter of your life and as you're reading it, would you feel at that moment you had the courage to answer that call Right. So, maybe kind of blindly walking through it, they're like oh, here I am, instead of knowing beforehand.
Speaker 3:Well, the ahas are so valuable. You know, working with people and having them crystallize from within themselves and having that haha is worth more than okay. This is exactly what it'll be. And if we go too much in the exactness, we go too much from the left brain and we don't allow that right brain emotional experience to happen and they don't value it as much. So, um, and, by the way, when denise and I worked on the mind body dictionary, if she would have told me that it's going to be 733 pages, I probably would have went. I don't know, I don't know if I can, I don't know if I can make a book 733 pages, but it just, it was just organic and I just kept adding and, kept adding and and like oh, wow, okay, so it's so valuable to just experiment actually with life, right?
Speaker 2:Right, right, cause you probably never would have thought three decades ago you would be doing this today, right? No no, no.
Speaker 3:No, talking to a great person like Tracy.
Speaker 2:Thank you, you're not so bad yourself, all right. Our next question is what has working as an emotional coach for three decades to support individuals to power their inner storyline teach you? What did it teach you?
Speaker 3:Well, actually it's taught me a lot, because that's that's when, uh, I do my writings. It's actually the people that teach me. So my understandings of one help me on the next person, and so they are my teachers and actually everyone's my teachers mantra I I started to do before this work because when I was really into it doing mastermind work and really kind of just not kind of I was way into it I understood that, wow, I can learn from every part of my life. Learn from every part of my life. So that's one of the things that taught me that storylines are a way of having a perception that has a unique view that really can teach each of us something new. And so when someone has an enemy, let's say they may not call them an enemy, but they get all upset. That other person is a teacher. They can teach you so much. Rather than be in complaint or whining about it, you can actually embrace that moment and say, well, what is valuable here? Why, what's happening in this moment with that other person? That's challenging me.
Speaker 2:That's interesting that you said that there was a season, a season in my life where someone was really challenging me and it was someone that I had to have frequent communications with, and every time that person would call I just frustration, just really things that I kind of didn't like coming out of myself, and I actually began to change. I changed my phone, that person's name to teacher, so that way, when I saw that this is what was teaching me, you know what I don't want to react to right, how I don't want to behave, some of the way this person talked and treated others was an example, a teaching moment for me as a human being, and I had that for several years. When the phone would ring up, there's my teacher.
Speaker 3:And that's a great attitude of gratitude that is so amazing Good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this person again very much a thorn in my side, but someone I really had to be involved with. So that's how I, that's how I framed it, I reframed it.
Speaker 3:I, that's how I framed it. I reframed it so and awesome. And so the next thing that is is a little deeper concept and that is, let's say, someone is afraid of something, or, or let's easier is depression. So let's say, someone's depressed, always hopeless, just poor me, and and they're in a victim state. And they don't mean to, they don't want to be, but it's just where their body took them.
Speaker 3:Now, in research they found if they put electrode in the brain and they go a certain direction with electricity and a stimulus, they can actually create a depressive state. Or if they go another direction, they can create a hyper giddy state. So I know that those people are just stuck in that frequency. So then I, then I look at their belief system and I say that so what they've taught me is how does that belief system and their state correspond, and what are they running from? So I look, and what are they running from?
Speaker 3:So I look at what they're running from, and oftentimes depression is running from anger or running from, of course, anxiety, and so you can actually just be able to. They teach you actually right there. Say what are you afraid of, what are you running from, or what belief structure is making you want to hold on to depression? What is so precious to you that you need that state? I'm using that as an example because it could be anything actually. So I mean, we could go on all night about different conditions and things like that and what they've taught us.
Speaker 2:Well, the next question is whether it's for your own personal growth or referring your clients. What qualities do you look for in an energy worker or in traditional Eastern healing methodologies?
Speaker 3:Well, I know this may sound odd, but the first thing is the leader of whatever that tradition's doing. If the leader is proclaiming that you don't need anything else but this, I shy away from that because actually, acupuncture is valid, chiropractic is valid, nutrition is important, different types of energy work is valid, and so I look at that if there's too much ego. The next thing I look for is not only integrity of the individual who is adding it up or the individual who's teaching it, but the integrity of what is being taught. Is it supporting people? Is it building them people? Is it building them or is it trying to keep them stuck?
Speaker 3:And you know slaves are victim to, you know what is happening in their life. Are we supporting the individual? Is the condition, is the methodology supporting their whole body and mind and heart? Now, some don't, they just support the mind, but within that, are they supporting the individual to be empowered? So, you know, balance, congruency, things like that. And yeah, and I, you know, looked at Ayurvedic play with that, of course, the chakra systems and acupuncture meridians and et cetera, and as a system those things hold up very well. So Right.
Speaker 2:Right, so you are teacher, you are founder, you are author. So what advice would you give someone who is just entering this profession?
Speaker 3:Experiment with not only different methodologies for yourself, but experiment, allowing yourself to try different methodologies, and then bring what resonates to yourself home, practice on yourself. Those who think, oh, I'm doing pretty good, I don't need this, but everybody else does, uh, that's, that's dark, in my opinion. Eventually, um and um, yeah, I had. I had a professional come in one time. He says what do you do? I don't understand. He was, he was next door in an office and I just said, um, well, I do energy work, emotional work, mental, on and on, and on and on. And he says that doesn't make any sense to me. I said, well, that's fine, I've got a little time, just come up, get on the table, I'll do my stuff. And so it came up.
Speaker 3:We were doing a little emotional work, so there were some points I was pushing and touching. I mean not pushing, touching and it was about his mom, and so I just went on. He says my mom, I have no issues with my mother ever. And I said, okay, that's fine. He said you cleared it up. Oh, yeah, in college I did that long time ago. I have no problem with her, no, I just. We got to stop right now, which I knew right. Then he did still have issues with his mom and but I didn't say that to him.
Speaker 3:I says well, let's pretend, let's just pretend you have issues with your mom and go back in time because you wanted to know what I do. So I know that was a little sly on my part, but he pretended and all of a sudden he started getting upset and then he cried and he talked all about it. He did the whole process and we did the energy work and brought him back home, worked with his beliefs and he went wow, that was amazing. Well, and I said that was really amazing because you were just pretending yeah, that was, this is awesome. So. So when you start out, you know you'll get people like that. That'll doubt they'll. They'll say, oh, you can't do that or you shouldn't do this. As long as you keep the people safe, you keep yourself balanced, you be balanced, they should be balanced Both. Then just just play with it. Come to understand. The doubts are because people are afraid. The doubts are because people are not ready to take the next step in their life. They're scared.
Speaker 2:So just just keep things in balance and take things a step at a time that's great advice and to be playful with it, because you never know what resistance you're going to get. But you put it in a really nice way with that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 2:Our next question is what books do you recommend, and that can mean your books as well.
Speaker 3:Well, thank you, and so I thought about this question. I listened to some of your podcasts and actually actually you're very considerate and a great host and so it was fun to listen to them. So I'm going to talk a little bit about my books in just a second. But, you know, I thought about, oh, you know, all these books there's just it goes on and on and on, and a lot of your listeners will have read several of them. It goes on and on and on, and a lot of your listeners will have read several of them.
Speaker 3:But one popped out that I've been enjoying and I'm actually going through it a third time, and it's a book called and there Was Light, by Jacques Rousseau Lucerne. Okay, now, it's about a story with a Frenchman that lost his eyesight at age seven. He lived in World War II timeframe and he became part of the French resistance and then they used his ability with intuition to help find and filter out anybody who was dangerous to be a part of their resistance. And he did it as an older teenager, so he was very young when he became a part of the resistance, and they used him because he had such great intuition he could smell the darkness in people. He could sense it. He said he got so good at his intuition and so aware he pitied those who are not blind. He said I can see, I can feel things that people have no idea. It's a great book on intuition and it's hidden. I didn't even know it would be that good on intuition, but it's one of the best books on intuitions I've ever read. And so uh with for Reiki practitioners, I think it's a great book personally. Um, and you know there's other other books and I I could go on and on about that, but that's a real good one. And there'll be, like now, the other ones. You already talked about a couple of them, and so the mind body dictionary is just come out, and so a lot of people have read similar books like feelings buried, lied, never die, louise Hayes books they're all fabulous.
Speaker 3:This one's a little different and that we provide a healing mindset, a troubled mindset, because it starts with the troubled and then it goes to the healing. Then we provide affirmations and then supporting foods, because I'm really into getting the whole thing together and each condition that we have we have over 250, I've lost count now and provide several statements that allow the person to really understand, rather than single words, their statements, so that it helps bridge the left and the right brain, because I do a lot of brain integration and that's so important. So by by having statements it bridges the two much easier. By having statements it bridges the two much easier. And then they take the healing mindset and they can actually start working on ways to achieve that healing of arthritis or diabetes or blood pressure or fear, it doesn't really matter. And then those supporting foods are really nice and of course, the affirmations. And so it's not just a book, though. We have it as an app so people can download it from their app store or play store. It's also an ebook, and so some people do all three.
Speaker 3:And I have to joke, after it came out I didn't realize how much some people used it, but I had a lady that told me after I talked to her. She said oh, I got to tell you something. I've got rid of most of my other books. By my bedside and by my bed on my nightstand All I have is the Bible and your book. I said, ok, I appreciate that, but I, you know she was just saying to me she used it all the time. She wanted to look stuff up. She wanted to connect and it was. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3:And the other book, life Centering, is more about. It starts about meditation in regards to your brain, so it talks a lot about the left brain and right brain. With meditation it's more simple than some of those complicated brain books and those books are fabulous. There are several books out there. This one I want to crystallize it, bring it to language that people can use, and so I really, I really like it because it helps the beginner use something of value. So if you have clients that don't quite understand the left and right brain stuff how to bring in meditation, how to bring in the emotional work because it has emotional processing in it then this is a great book to have them start. And of course, the MindBody Dictionary for Reiki practitioners is fabulous because you can just look it up, you can scan, say oh, that's one for them, and then they can just use that affirmation. So, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2:Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. I love that right next to the bible.
Speaker 3:What a compliment well, not everybody said that, but it was fun well, it just took one person.
Speaker 2:That's all you need right?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, well you know, um, well, you know. Well, you know these things is as, the more you become intuitive because anybody who gets into this work becomes more intuitive they become more connected and you get a knowing when you work with people. So that book is a knowing book, it's it. That's what I wanted to come across Like when they they read about a condition, the person goes, oh, how did they know me. When they read about a condition, the person goes, oh, how did they know me. So my nieces, my niece and nephew's children, they're teenagers and they first time they picked it up and they looked at their conditions, they looked around the room. I wasn't there, but they looked around, said is Ron there? Is Ronald there, you know? And because I wanted them to have that feeling when this book came out, so, and that's what a practitioner wants, they want to be in their field so much a Reiki practitioner, of course and have that knowing, come and help the person really rise and transform through their condition.
Speaker 2:Right, so Love it, love it. So I mentioned in the beginning some of your other modalities, so remind us again what are your other modalities that you offer, and do you offer classes, trainings, online in person?
Speaker 3:It would be a beginning book, just to gather information, to understand it. After that, then in our college we have Empower Life Kinesiology. That's part of Empower Life trainings, and Empower Life Kinesiology is one that takes the meridian system and finds a way to get answers to whatever the condition is that a person has. It could be emotional, mental, physical, it doesn't really matter. And so we use motor or, excuse me, muscle response testing, of course, but it's done in a way where it's stress test rather than a yes, no, so we can do it intuitively. So a lot of times I have a knowing where to go, and then we start out with understanding energy. Then we go to somatic work and then we blend in the mind with it and then we go back into emotions. So I teach a whole section on emotional work. I teach a whole section on somatic work, and so do my co-workers.
Speaker 3:Tammy and Debbie have worked really hard. They have a lot of courses that are really helpful in doing that. And then, after we get through that, then we go into advanced work. So you can do work about hormone problems. You can find out energy work on exactly acupuncture points for your hormones, your neurotransmitters cells in each of your organs, each of your muscles, and then we go into classes about movements so I can take this movement with another movement, put them together and do brain integration. Put them together and do brain integration. And if someone does those movements every day, they can help their ADD, adhd, help their blood sugar. It is remarkable how movements can also change everything. So I know I keep talking about all these different things going on because they're all going on. They're just it's amazing what is out there. So, anyway, so I I've tried to bring it concise. Hopefully that wasn't too much for the, for the show it's not.
Speaker 2:We have many different listeners, you know, from massage therapist to yogis. So yeah, and reiki masters, yeahiki masters.
Speaker 3:Yeah, love it, yeah. And so, for example, we have a medical massage therapist here that I work with extensively on some clients. He loves the movement and the reflex work. And then I have other people that don't want to touch the body and they just want to do emotional work, and so then they do that work. And other people that just want to deal with the mind is so yeah, it's, it's inviting to anyone, and so in the college they're welcome to do that. And you know, if, if people are saying way, whoa, that's too much, then they could just contact mind body dictionary on the website and just say, hey, I'm interested in extra little courses at that level which are profound, and yet they're not having to learn anything about acupuncture, meridians or anything like that. So you know, it depends upon where people are coming from.
Speaker 2:You take them where they are.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Whatever?
Speaker 3:Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Right, perfect. So where can we find you? How can we get in touch with you?
Speaker 3:So two different ways. I mentioned it just briefly just now, of course, mindbodydictionarycom and do the contact us, and then you can ask questions there and Denise fills those. And I mean, if you are interested in that, that'd be great. But you can even go there for the Empower Life Kinesiology. Also. The other way, if you want to look up Empower Life Kinesiology or Empower Life Trainings because it's forwarded Now, um, I mean, if you really want to find me, uh, I I'm in West Jordan, utah, um, and you can look up my name and find me that way too, and that's fine. But that's how I I prefer is going through the websites. That way they can take care of your needs, um, and, and you know, if you need a practitioner or you need extra special care, then they can do that for you, okay perfect.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you, ron. This ends our little journey together here with the questions, and I'm going to lead you as our journey continues into the questions from social media. So we have listeners that submit questions and I narrow it down to three. So I have three questions just for you. So here we go. The first question is what has been some of the biggest challenges you have faced in integrating spiritually with your entrepreneurship?
Speaker 3:I think in the very beginning I'm thinking about 35 years ago, when I was playing with the idea of actually doing this part-time, full-time kind of an idea was the question that and the doubt people had how can you charge for something that's spiritual? I think I mean that just came to me as you asked that question. I haven't thought of that for gosh years now and and I played with that quite a bit because you know a lot of people locally here Well, you know you shouldn't be paid for anything spiritual, and so what I came to understand one is that I should always find a way to periodically give my services to someone who is poor or very disadvantaged and just offer it and not do all of it that way. Because one of the things I found well, how could I have an office, how can I have a center, if I just did it without any pay at all? I mean, I could live on the street and beg for food and then work on people. I could do it that way, but then I wouldn't be able to serve most of the public that the best way to serve the public was to have a way to have income and then offer services to someone that was disadvantaged periodically not all the time, but just some of the time and it's kind of like a tide.
Speaker 3:You're giving back because I don't believe anything. We have any gift, we have knowledge, our ability is without a gift from the divine? I think everything we think, feel sense is always from the divine. We are so blessed, and so why should I be greedy by saying, well, all right, it's all mine, I, you should pay for it. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:The the payment isn't about, um, what it is out there in the work market. I'm, this is not a job, this is service to me and I'm giving to the client. They will pay for some of those services, right, and they will give money for this, but the money is a sharing For the amount of energy that I put into my work and teaching. It does not equate to the dollar amount I'm receiving, not even close. It's worth far more than what I'm receiving if it's monetary point of view, but from the divine view, they're giving me so much of their soul that it's worth just being with them. And then the dollar stuff helps me have lights, helps me have a building, helps me buy new trainings, helps me actually provide more opportunities for more people. That's how I take it.
Speaker 2:Right, right. Well, thank you for addressing that, because many, especially the newer practitioners, have that difficulty because they want to be of service, but they also know it's an exchange of energy and putting that out. So where do they price themselves, how do they value themselves? And then you always have that client that may kind of well, why does it have to be this way? And then there's no consistency also in these fields where the prices are so radically different.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, all over the place, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Right, and even in the same city you can have maybe $100, $200 difference.
Speaker 3:And sometimes it's the capacity of the individual, maybe their technique capacity, but also their confidence capacity. And so an individual who is afraid to charge more than a very small amount, then work on building confidence in your own ability to feel worthy, good enough, lovable, capable, courageous, trusting all the positive values, build capacity, and then it'll be easy to build upon that and add more charge to it. And you know, every once in a while I not only give a free session but discount it sometimes for those who are, you know, not able. That's fine, there's nothing wrong with the discount. I don't believe it's. It's. Am I discounting myself is the problem? So when I work on someone who, let's say, is half price, I don't have a lot like that, but if they are, I don't give them a half price deal on my work. They may pay less, but I give them the same, and then I get even more greater understanding and I don't feel taken advantage of. I give them the same. I don't. I don't discount what I do.
Speaker 2:Right. I often especially like with trainings. I'll spin it as here's a scholarship that you can apply for and tell me why you know you would like to do this training and they write, they tell me their story and then I'll work that into a scholarship for them, taking a certain percentage off the training. So that seems to make it a little easier for them that, oh, I want a scholarship or I earned the scholarship, that's great.
Speaker 3:That's good, I like that.
Speaker 2:So our second question is can you tell me about your Empower Life Kynology, Body and Mind Energy School? I know you touched on that a little bit in our last section of questions, but tell us all.
Speaker 3:So it's Empower Life Kinesiology, that's how you pronounce it. So it is energy kinesiology. In the United States and Canada, kinesiology at the university is the study of muscles. Okay, so energy kinesiology is using energy and muscles combined, and so empower life is is the name I apply to it because I want people to be empowered. So people learn about muscles, they learn about organs, they learn about body systems, they learn about how things work together. Then in, and then we add to that, of course, the mind, the belief systems and the emotions.
Speaker 3:Now another part of the college is I'm licensed in the United States to teach and distribute trainings from Australia, from NK, that is, neural Energeticiology, from a individual, hugo tobar, who has spent uh decades developing his work, and so we uh have joined it together here in the us with our work, and so people can have a very advanced energy um work. From a scientific point of view it's very science-based. So it's genetics and hormones and neurotransmitters. It goes into the brain in very detail, all the parts of the brain. You can get detailed points to know where and what to do. So it's quite remarkable work.
Speaker 3:And then in the school we do brain integration to hold it all together. So it's actually a complete work, going all the way from the very simple to a very complex. So I deal with very complex individuals and I'm prompted internally to just not mention all of the major conditions that we deal with. But yeah, there's several of them, so it is a regular school. They can do an independent study, or they can say oh, I want to do it with a group where there's a labs that we do videos, so it's easy for them to do it, and then the labs are online so they can have one-on-one with a teacher.
Speaker 2:Okay, beautiful online so they can have one-on-one with a teacher Beautiful. And our third question how do you think spirituality can play a role in the broader business world?
Speaker 3:I think that all things are spirituality. I feel all things are spirituality and I sense all things are spiritual. So if spirituality isn't in the business world, eventually it actually collapses upon itself. Now, on a basic level, that means values. That means people have ethics and they're true to their core values, ethics and principles. To me that's part of spirituality. That is really basic to it. In entrepreneurship, in the business world, if you don't know what your principles are, write them down immediately, find out what they are and start being true to them, and then you will be successful. If you're not successful in your world and what you're doing, if you're not successful in your world and what you're doing, it's because you're not being true to your truth, and so being true to your truth will enable you to actually be more successful. Then, on a higher level, then spirituality is acknowledging God's hands, the universe's hand, in everything and really applying gratitude for everything. How it's a great honor to serve the public, because it is a great honor.
Speaker 2:Wonderful, wonderful. Well, we have finished our questions, but is there anything else that you would like to add? I know you created a spice blend, herbal blend, oh, yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess you know I, I don't know it's, it's just on the weekends. You got to do something extra, you know? Um, yes, uh, there's an herbal blend I that I worked on with jan uh and uh she she has also contributed and and that blend was to help people with diabetes and cravings and actually has been helpful in a lot of other things. So it was developed for specific people and so people have been able to use it for their health and I just use it now. On cooking, I went to rice potatoes is very savory. It's only missing for an Italian blend, oregano, and some people add it in, but we don't because it's just whole in itself. It's made to be holistic. So, yeah, we did do that. My main thing is not that culinary arts, because I wanted to support clients, so I just decided let's do it. So we did it.
Speaker 3:The other is essential oils. Now, I love essential oils. All these companies are fabulous. There's many companies out there. I don't like having any contention between companies. That's silly. What I want to honor where people are coming from. These oils are not to be in competition with that.
Speaker 3:But I needed two blends I couldn't find and that is to deal with the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic nervous system, to deal with the atlas and axis. To deal with how, how to? You know the, the, the calm and restore part of the body. And you know the, the aggression. Let's get out and do it part of the body.
Speaker 3:So clear and light is a blend of multiple oils frankincense, thyme, etc. There's multiples and it works so well that when people get the oils then they can figure out acupuncture points to apply to those oils specifically for conditions. And so, before I came over, my granddaughter says I have a cough, what do I do? I didn't have time to talk to her as I did the other day, because I wanted to do this right here and I don't like doing that. I want to spend time when they want to ask questions, and so I told her I'd call her another time and so I gave her some oil points to help her with her cough, and those kind of things are really nice, as well as other things. So, yeah, I've developed some things and help other people develop. Yeah, that's the little fun side note.
Speaker 2:Wonderful, wonderful. And is there anything? Just want to make sure. Anything else you want to add?
Speaker 3:um, well, you know this is a lot of information. So, uh, have fun, have fun. And if anybody wants to learn how to coach you, know how to deal with all this and advance their, their career, yeah, please give us a call. Or yeah, get the mind body dictionary and have some fun with it, and and and I really honor those who also have so much understanding and hopefully what we do helps other people wherever they are.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you so much, Ronald. What an amazing journey. I mean, my goodness, I have felt that I have come along on this journey with you over the three decades here, that you've had all these experiences. It's amazing, so well, well done and you know.
Speaker 2:Ronald wants to help people find the truth within their body, heart and mind, which brings one back to their authentic soul. So check it out, check them out online, get the book, get it a part of your bookcase there, fill it up, love it Well, thank you so much. All right, my friends, our wonderful listeners. Thank you so much for joining me on this journey. If you're interested in your question featured on Ready Set Reiki, reach out at wwwreadysetreikicom and find me on social media. So I'm Tracy Seawright and this is Ready Set Reiki. Thank you.