E63: Confronting Educational Corruption: Cyndi O'Brien Speaks Out

Cyndi O'Brien exposes the unsettling truths buried within our education system. As a former teacher and school counselor with 20 years of firsthand experience, Cyndi courageously shares her journey from the classroom to becoming a whistleblower. We discuss her diverse background in public, charter, and private schools, and the eye-opening issues she encountered, such as sexual harassment, drug problems, and the mishandling of students' gender identity disclosures. Cyndi's mission? To inform parents and advocate for the well-being of their children through her YouTube and Rumble channels.

Uncover the harrowing realities Cyndi faced as she fought against severe school injustices, from bullying to homicidal tendencies among students. Despite retaliation and being placed on administrative leave, her determination to speak out never wavered. Now away from the K-12 environment, Cyndi's YouTube and Rumble channels  serve as powerful platforms to reveal the hidden dangers within our schools. This episode also delves into the complex issues surrounding transgender and suicidal trends among students, the growing presence of school-based mental health clinics, and the crucial role of parents in advocating for their children's well-being.

Links:
Cyndi's YouTube Channel
Cyndi's Rumble Channel
Cyndi on X (formerly Twitter)

Transcript

Mr. Webb: 0:00

Are there really teachers and administrators sweeping horrible things under the rug in our schools? What happens when conservative teachers speak out and how challenging is it to be a conservative teacher or counselor? Welcome to T the Conservative Classroom, where we're teaching the truth and preserving our values. I'm your host, M mr. Webb, and I'm glad you're here. This podcast is a haven for conservative educators, parents and patriots like you, who believe in the importance of free speech, traditional values and education without indoctrination. Each week, we dive into issues that are plaguing our education system and keeping you up at night. In each episode, we offer common sense ideas to improve education in our classrooms and communities. You may feel like you're the last conservative educator or parent, but I want you to know that you are not alone. By the way, if you like what you hear today, please share this podcast with a like-minded educator, parent or patriot. Together, we can teach the truth and preserve our values. In today's episode, we'll hear from someone who spent 20 years in public education but is now blowing the whistle about what she witnessed behind the scenes in our public schools. Now let's get started. Today, I'm excited to welcome a special guest to the conservative classroom, Cyndi O'Brien. Cyndi is a former teacher and school counselor who has her own YouTube and Rumble channels as a public education whistleblower. A ccording her YouTube and Rumble About section. I'm reading this directly from that quote " hear what a former K-12 insider teacher and counselor reveals about what really goes on behind the scenes in US schools. Her revelations will shock you. So, cindy, thank you for joining us.

Cyndi Obrien: 2:09

Thank you for having me on. It's a real pleasure.

Mr. Webb: 2:14

I'm excited to get into the whistleblowing to find out what all that's about. But to start, can you tell us a bit about yourself and your background? Tell us a bit about yourself and your background.

Cyndi Obrien: 2:25

Sure, yeah, I entered teaching later in life, just like you did, and I taught English, middle school and high school English for about 17 years. And then I got into school counseling because students were always telling me their problems and I figured I would give that a try and that there were a lot of challenges with that, which we'll get into, as you can imagine. And then I finally quit K-12 after 20 years and decided that I started getting all the information out there about the things that parents should know about that goes on behind the scenes. There's too much corruption and usurping of parental rights. So I was going to. I kept saying for years I was going to write a book, but then I thought I started getting into the podcast and an X World and just thought that was a lot more fun and I was getting more immediate feedback. I could comment on current events more easily. So, yeah, I've worked at public, charter and private schools, middle school and high school, mostly with teaching English. I've lived all over the country. Originally from New Jersey, I lived in Maryland, ansas, ashington. I homeschooled my kids for a few years, so I know what that's like too, and I was a PTA president, before I got into education, I, let's see, I have a master's degree in education, slash school counseling, and another one in English. So I teach college now counseling and English and I'm getting licensed as a professional counselor. I also have a life coach side business for career coaching and, as I tell people, I'm trying to be one of the only conservative professional counselors out there. I really haven't met many. It's very, as you can imagine, inundated with very liberal theories and people that are just taking it too far. So hopefully I can make some kind of difference.

Mr. Webb: 4:40

What led you to becoming a whistleblower?

Cyndi Obrien: 4:44

Well, I guess through the entire 20 years I was in K-12, I was always finding myself in that position. It's always like I was in the wrong place at the wrong time, or maybe you can say the right place at the right time, where I would always find out something I had to report and I would always be treated badly because of it. I mean, you find that in all industries, but education is like that too. I've had to whistleblow on sexual harassment, drugs, sexual predators. I was written up in an article about how the last school district I was in was we had a parent bill of rights in Arizona. And that school district was telling us not to tell parents if their kids were saying they were transgender, even though the parent bill of rights said we had to. So I wasn't going to go along with that, but I think I'd written up for that, written up in an article about that that got around the country and lots of states were seeing lots of up in an article about that that got around the country and lots of states. We're seeing lots of people come out talking about that. Yeah, bullying, I mean anything, everything you can think of h Homicidal kids. You know so many things at schools that try to hide and I was always finding myself in a position of having to speak up and I was on administrative leave at least three times. So it's been quite an adventure.

Mr. Webb: 6:10

Wow, so are these things that happen, that you were like oh my gosh, what's going on here?

Cyndi Obrien: 6:19

Yeah, that's what I find. You know, so many people do not want to speak up. Sometimes I would have another teacher speaking up with me and then we'd both get put on leave. So it always wound up being something that I'd have to get a lawyer for and I'd get some kind. They always admitted that, obviously, that they owed me something for treating me like that, but they, you know, that's all they would do is just do these quiet settlements and, just, you know, make sure I got out of there. They just don't want people that are going to be speaking up and maybe decreasing enrollment or or, you know, calling attention to something.

Cyndi Obrien: 7:08

But the last place I was at was the worst, because at least this was a sexual predator and he even admitted to it and I was the one put on leave, which was crazy, and that happened once before, but at least the person um or not put on leave before when that's happened. But I've, you know, been, I've had consequences where they tried to retaliate for reporting someone who was sexually harassing a student or something, and usually they would try to push me out, but at least they would get rid of the predator too. This time they kept them there, even though I even went to the state board of education, they did nothing. So that was very disappointing, and I think that was just the last straw. Yeah, just to see that that person's still there. That bothers me.

Mr. Webb: 7:57

Was that the last straw, or was there something else that happened that you're like okay, I'm going to get out of teaching, I'm going to start a YouTube channel?

Cyndi Obrien: 8:11

Well, yeah, I was hoping getting into school counseling would be different because I thought, well, that's, they want you to report things in school counseling, so they should be fine with that. Oh no, it was worse with that. They really didn't want. They wanted to hear less, yeah that. Oh no, it was worse with that. They really didn't want. They wanted to hear less, yeah. And they didn't even want me. Um, they didn't even like that.

Cyndi Obrien: 8:31

I was helping suicidal kids, which I was hired to do crisis counseling. The principals would say, um, do you really have to call crisis team and parents? I said, yeah, this kid is going to kill himself and I and I'm not the one who decides when they go to the hospital. But anyway, yeah, I guess the first time something happened was, let's see, I've been teaching a few years and, yeah, it was a matter of somebody who was a sexual harassment case. He was harassing staff plus a student, and I was one of the staff. So we all spoke up and, one by one, they were getting rid of. Well, they did get rid of him at least, but they were getting rid of one teacher at a time and I was the last one left and they were making up bogus reasons, and they were giving me a really hard time, and I just got myself out of there.

Cyndi Obrien: 9:24

So that was shocking, but then it just seems like everywhere I went after that, I kept encountering that kind of thing, and after that one, I said I'm never speaking up again. I told my kids you know, but you can't do that. I mean, I can't do that. I have to look at myself in the mirror. One thing I kept saying, though, is that okay, if this job doesn't work out, I'm getting out of K-12. And then I would keep going to another job, and they'd say mom, why are you still doing this?

Cyndi Obrien: 9:53

So finally went with the last one. I think they're shocked that I actually meant it, and it's been a couple of years now, so they're. I think they're happy that that I got out of it Like I said I would. Now I'm revealing things, and I'm surprised at how shocked people are. I just assume people knew some of these things, but I have so many people writing to me and commenting. I have politicians following me, school board members, because they want to hear the latest things, but not one person has argued with me. I thought somebody on the other side would say oh no, she's lying, or this didn't happen.

Cyndi Obrien: 10:34

That's been surprising so what are some of those things that you speak out about that people find shocking? Yeah well, the sexual harassment, about how they try to cover that up, you know, and try to get rid of the person who accuses, you know or has evidence from students about it. Let's see, drugs, that's a big thing, that's covered up. I was at one school and it was almost comical because we had two police officers there on duty and it was an alternative school and there was marijuana smoke all over the courtyard. They acted like they didn't see it and I mentioned something and they'd say what are you talking about? And I mean, I'm laughing now because it's just ridiculous.

Mr. Webb: 11:20

That seems crazy to me.

Cyndi Obrien: 11:23

Yes, but I wasn't treated well after I started telling them about it and then I was getting it into my classroom because I was right next to the vents for the restrooms and I was getting sinus infections and my doctor said I think you're allergic to marijuana, so you better leave. Wow, so I had to give that excuse. Yeah, but a couple of times I've seen that happen where, yeah, they're, just they don't want to go into the bathrooms. I don't know if it's like that out there, but they want to stay away from the restroom so that they don't see what's going on in there, Even though I keep saying put guards by the restrooms out in there, even though I keep saying put guards by the restaurants.

Mr. Webb: 12:05

Do you find that it's other teachers that are kind of turning their backs on ignoring these things? Administration, or both teachers and administration?

Cyndi Obrien: 12:11

Probably both, but I think administration is particularly blind to it, and I think it might be why some of them make it to that point, you know, because they're willing to look the other way. I don't think they last very long in administration, unless you're in a very special school or area. That is okay with that, but it seems like they're really masters at just ignoring things. But the teachers know that they can't speak up either.

Mr. Webb: 12:40

And you were in the public school system for 20 years.

Cyndi Obrien: 12:45

Also charter Charter wasn't any better. I started with charter and I don't see a big difference.

Mr. Webb: 12:52

So when did you start noticing these things?

Cyndi Obrien: 12:58

I guess I've been to, let's see, the first school that I had that happen at was I have been teaching maybe five years or so and that was a charter school and if I mentioned it people would know, because it's a famous one around the country now.

Mr. Webb: 13:15

So can I say and it's also.

Cyndi Obrien: 13:17

Yeah, they also have private schools now too. But, um, yeah, and then after that that it just kept happening. I eventually went to public school because I thought, well, charter, maybe public, there's a union. Well, I thought the union was better than it would be, but I thought maybe I'll have more protections. And no, it just was more organized to be against what's going on.

Mr. Webb: 13:44

So what are some of the main differences you see in public education today versus when you first started?

Cyndi Obrien: 13:53

Oh, like when I was like 20 years ago when, I was in school.

Mr. Webb: 13:57

Yeah, when you were 20 years ago, when you just started teaching.

Cyndi Obrien: 14:00

I started well, I think there well ago when you just started teaching. I started Well, I think they're. Well. We're in Arizona here. We're almost like the charter school capital and the charter schools have really mushroomed. I thought they were a little better when we first started. They seemed a little different where the academics were better. I still think the academics are probably a little better, but they're becoming more like the public schools and we're seeing too much corruption with them.

Cyndi Obrien: 14:30

Where they're, the people owning the charter schools are becoming multimillionaires off of land deals. I don't know if it's like that in other states, but here it's crazy and you should not become a multimillionaire of a charter school. Nothing wrong with being a millionaire, but just the way they're doing it is just kind of offensive to a lot of people and I just think well, you see trends over the years. So the transgender stuff has really made everything crazy. That and the suicidal trends too, and that kind of coincided with me just getting out of teaching and into school counseling. So it's, I think it's oh my gosh, it's made everything so dangerous for kids I really worry about that you mentioning the, the suicidal.

Mr. Webb: 15:20

I really worry about that. You're mentioning the suicidal. That makes me want to kind of switch gears a little bit and talk about you becoming a school counselor. Yeah, so what were some of the challenges and what are some of the challenges of being a conservative counselor?

Cyndi Obrien: 15:39

Well, they didn't know I was a conservative counselor. I keep that to myself, but I think it was helpful for the kids because I wasn't automatically I was being neutral with transgender kids. I wasn't automatically affirming everybody, which is how you should be neutral. And at the last school I was at, there were a lot of conservative parents and we had just come out with that parent bill of rights in Arizona, and so anytime I called their parents, the parents to say I was going to counsel their kid or is okay if I counsel your kids? And they the first thing they would ask is are you going to turn them into a transgender kid? That's how, that's how we, how bad it's become where people think is going to happen. And I would tell them, well, confidentially, I'm conservative, you're conservative counselor, you're kidding? Yeah, there are some of us. And I said and then they said oh yeah, you can counsel my kids as much as you want them.

Mr. Webb: 16:35

That's awesome. Well, I wonder, I wondered, when they ask you that question, if you kind of give them a wink and a nod and say they're safe with me. I'm not a crazy liberal, I know you couldn't say anything like that, but I think it's great that you kind of let them know that your kid's safe with me. I'm conservative.

Cyndi Obrien: 16:56

Yeah, because I know I would feel like that too if it was my kid. Luckily, my kids were out by then and adults now.

Mr. Webb: 17:05

And I feel like conservative counselors and conservative teachers do try to be neutral. The conservative teachers I know they don't push their politics in their classroom. Their students don't know what their politics are. Their students don't know what their politics are. But the flip side is a lot of the liberal teachers the students do know what their politics are because they push things in the classroom. Not all of them. There's some really good liberal-leaning teachers out there, but I think I can say that generally speaking, and it'd be true 80% of the time.

Cyndi Obrien: 17:43

Oh, I know, you know, I taught government when you're to 12th graders. Oh, and it was 2016, during the Trump and Hillary election, and it was at an art school a very liberal art school and I thought how am I going to do this, how am I going to get through this government class? Because these kids were asking 17-year olds, asking me every day who I was voting for. But I fooled them somehow. You know, I just said I'm never going to tell you and I just, anytime we talked about it, I made it two-sided and made them look at both sides and at the end of the year, I had some of them come up to me and say we still don't know who you voted for. But, thank you, because we're tired of even if we agree with the teacher, we're tired of them pushing their ideas down our throats.

Mr. Webb: 18:26

That's awesome yeah.

Cyndi Obrien: 18:28

And these are very liberal kids too. So, yeah, that's how they feel, and I don't know why liberal teachers think that that's what they want.

Mr. Webb: 18:39

So, speaking of counseling and kids, I recently finished Abigail Schreier's Bad Therapy. I don't know if you've read that book or not, but it's all about over-diagnosing, over-medicating, over-therapizing Is therapizing a word?

Cyndi Obrien: 19:00

I think it is, If it's not let's just make that a word. Yes, I did read half of it. I haven't finished it yet. Yes, it's very good.

Mr. Webb: 19:09

Oh, it's a great book.

Cyndi Obrien: 19:11

It makes great points.

Mr. Webb: 19:12

A lot of what we're talking about.

Cyndi Obrien: 19:16

Yes.

Mr. Webb: 19:17

The book deals with this sort of thing.

Cyndi Obrien: 19:19

Yes, and the more that I'm very close to getting licensed and the more people I'm meeting you know, professional counselors, it's I don't know. It's been taken over by so much radical stuff. I mean it's getting worse. And the transgender movement is really sad. The transgender and suicide movements or I don't know if it's movements but trends I blame on TikTok because what I saw in the schools and what the kids were telling me is that they had suicide groups on TikTok, transgender groups. They're even having all these mental illness groups where the kids are thinking it's like a glamorous thing to think that they have ADHD or bipolar and they're coming in and diagnosing themselves. I don't know what they're doing on TikTok. I try to find out and it's very disturbing.

Mr. Webb: 20:16

So I think that does not help. Sorry, one of the things that's mentioned in the book is how I probably won't get the wording right on this, but how students are kind of wearing diagnosis as a badge as a badge of honor. They'll put it on their profiles and a lot of students you can talk to and within two minutes you know what disorder they have and what medication they're on. It's like they're very proud of it I know, yes, that's what's scary, and of course, that makes other students want to have the same diagnosis, I'm afraid.

Cyndi Obrien: 20:58

Yeah, and that's what happens in schools. You know these trends trends and that's why they started giving the federal safety grants out. They probably gave it in your state too, and I was hired under those when I first became a school counselor and all these kids were suicidal and plus it was a pandemic. But it's almost like they were given the message that if they were upset about something, the only way to cope with it was to be suicidal. And because they had gotten that message from each other and TikTok and other social media and you never know who really is. So you have to take everybody seriously. So that was the challenge. Some of them really will kill themselves, even if you didn't think they would have, if they weren't influenced. So I didn't lose. Anybody have if they weren't influenced, so I didn't lose anybody.

Cyndi Obrien: 21:43

But that was just pretty scary.

Mr. Webb: 21:46

It's really sad to think about. It's sad that there are students who really are so depressed that they feel like the only way out is suicide is suicide. I feel like those are very rare, but there's a lot more that because they've just been exposed to so much.

Cyndi Obrien: 22:09

Right.

Mr. Webb: 22:09

I think there's some that think well, I'm going to if I say this, it's going to get me some attention. And then you've got others that maybe would never have thought of suicide, but they just hear about it so much that now it's on their mind In those last two groups. That's really sad to think about.

Cyndi Obrien: 22:29

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, like when we were kids. I don't remember anybody thinking that suicide was the answer. It was probably very rare that you'd hear that. Yeah, I don't remember hearing about that until I was maybe in high school.

Mr. Webb: 22:40

And then it was very rare that you'd hear that. Yeah, I don't. I don't remember hearing about that until I was maybe in high school, and then it was very rare.

Cyndi Obrien: 22:47

I know it's it's gotten crazy, but there you do see trends and you probably see that with education. You know, like, uh, I started noticing that when I was in in the first 10 years, like you'd have all the girls suddenly in middle school and and you teach middle school too. So you probably that's the time when they have these trends. It seems like two-thirds of the girls were bisexual for about five years and then suddenly it became transgender.

Mr. Webb: 23:13

So you see this social contagion and then you see it with suicide and with everything else, I think you're exactly right on that and.

Mr. Webb: 23:23

I'm in a fairly conservative district so we don't see that sort of thing as much as some other districts do. But what I have noticed is a lot of the students in middle school that later I hear that oh, did you hear about this student? Yeah, she says she's a boy now. Yeah, this one says she's transgender now. And I think back to when I had them and I'm not a counselor, I'm not a therapist, I'm not a mental health expert, but I'm just telling you what I've experienced A lot of those students who later on in high school I hear that now they're transgender or something else.

Cyndi Obrien: 24:13

Yeah.

Mr. Webb: 24:14

I think you know I had that student when they were in seventh grade and I remember them seeing a counselor and being called out of my class once a week because their their counselor or therapist or whatever was there. So they had some issues. Yeah, not all of them, but a large percentage of them that had issues in middle school went on to later deciding they were transgender. To me that's a red flag that says this is a mental health issue.

Mr. Webb: 24:45

This is I don't know, I'll stop there because I'll say too much, and then I'll reveal myself to be ignorant about the topic.

Cyndi Obrien: 24:57

But that's what I've noticed anyway. Yeah, they're trying to say now, oh, it isn't a mental health issue, and they're, you know, changing things in the DSM diagnoses. But they are finding that there's a large percentage of autistic kids who are saying they're transgender and other types of disorders too. Yeah, there's definitely some connection and this country's slow in recognizing that and Europe is actually ahead of us. They're like banning a lot of these procedures before 18. I wish we'd follow them now.

Mr. Webb: 25:38

Maybe eventually we'll catch on. We'll figure out that it's a horrible thing to do. We'll catch on. We'll figure out that it's a horrible thing to do Actually.

Cyndi Obrien: 25:53

Abigail Schreier. She had another book Before Bad Therapy. I read that too.

Mr. Webb: 25:55

Yeah, oh my gosh, I just went blank on the name of the book.

Cyndi Obrien: 25:59

Oh.

Mr. Webb: 25:59

Irreversible Damage.

Cyndi Obrien: 26:01

Yes.

Mr. Webb: 26:03

And it's kind of about this sort of thing we're talking about right now. That's also a book I'd recommend. Now let me switch gears a little bit. So you got out of the K-12 teaching and counseling and what is it you're doing now?

Cyndi Obrien: 26:20

Well, I teach college classes at a few colleges part-time and I'm in the process of getting licensed to become a professional licensed counselor. They were able to apply my school counseling credits towards the courses needed to become a counselor, so I'm really close and so I'm doing some work with that at different agencies too, to get those hours to get licensed.

Mr. Webb: 26:55

Okay. So the reason I asked that I wanted to make sure I heard you right earlier that you're at the college level now. Do you see differences between the K-12 and college, or do you see that those students that had issues in K-12, it's worse when they're in college or gets better?

Cyndi Obrien: 27:16

Yeah, you do see some of it. I really love teaching college, though, because they basically leave me alone, which was surprising. I mean, it's nice, you know, they just have treated me well, knock on wood. But there's all different ages too, so there's a lot of different challenges with older students and younger ones. But what they are surprised about since I'm teaching English too is when they have to write an argument essay, and usually it's about something that's going on in the world. And I always tell them I don't care which side you're on, I will, you know, I'll be neutral. You don't have to be afraid of, you know, if you're conservative or liberal, and having me, you know, judge what your ideas are. And they just like sit there shocked, and they're because they've never had anybody say that to them in high school. I don't think they quite believe it until they see it.

Mr. Webb: 28:11

They probably figure out that you're a conservative when you say you know what. It doesn't matter what your views are, that's okay. This person must be conservative. A liberal would never tell us that.

Cyndi Obrien: 28:24

They don't even know if they realize that, because I thought they would figure that out. The liberal would never tell us that they don't even know if they realize that.

Mr. Webb: 28:27

Probably not, because I thought they would figure that out. Yeah, like at that art school.

Cyndi Obrien: 28:30

I thought they'd figure it out because every other teacher was telling them.

Cyndi Obrien: 28:34

But yeah, it just depends on how savvy they are, and there are plenty of. You know, in the schools that I'm teaching at, there are plenty of conservative kids and I think they're really happy that they can be free with what they're saying. So, um, but yeah, it just seems like, uh, I guess you still see a little bit of the transgender stuff, although I'm seeing less of it in college, which is maybe that's good. I don't have as many people asking me to call them by a different name because I've been teaching there for a few years, off and on. So, yeah, maybe there's promise there.

Mr. Webb: 29:12

I'd heard someone say that it's a trend and it'll pass and I didn't believe them. But now hearing you say that, I'm hoping maybe they were right.

Cyndi Obrien: 29:24

Yeah, hearing you say that, I'm hoping maybe they were right. Yeah, it's a shame. It's a really dangerous trend because of all those kids that had to suffer and then now they're detransitioning and going through the terrible. If you read about that, it's just horrible. But they have to go through the disfigurement and, yeah, people don't sit and realize, you know, and they even say that they feel alone afterwards. Nobody's realizing what they're going through. Other bodies are ruined.

Mr. Webb: 29:52

Yeah, they can never get back that normalcy. They can never go back to pre-surgery. Right, they can have it reversed, but it will never be the same. Yes, it's really sad, really sad to think about.

Cyndi Obrien: 30:13

It is Well the thing I do worry about. There should have been adults like us to tell them.

Mr. Webb: 30:19

Okay, you know what you think you want to do, that Maybe you do, but you can't. I'm the adult here and that's a life-altering decision and you have to wait until you're 21.

Cyndi Obrien: 30:33

I know.

Mr. Webb: 30:34

That would solve a lot of it. But these parents it's like they wear that like a badge of honor. Oh, my kid is trans.

Cyndi Obrien: 30:44

I know it's crazy. Yeah, it's sad that they feel like they have to go along with it. But you know, one thing that scares me are these school-based mental health and general health clinics that they're putting into schools. I don't know if it's gotten well, it's gotten to every state, so I don't know how advanced it is in your state. Yet they're finding ways to sneak it in.

Cyndi Obrien: 31:08

We thought I didn't know it was here and I was in the schools and I just found out they'd been in the schools because I went on an interview just like an undercover person because it was for a school-based therapist, and I found out what they were doing and then I realized they were all over and they were sneaking in and the dangerous part is they.

Cyndi Obrien: 31:29

It makes it even worse with the whole transgender thing, because they said well, we don't have to follow the rules of the school, the parental right, bill of rights doesn't apply to us, because you're working for the agency and as a professional counselor you don't. You can keep confidentiality as much as you want and you don't have to tell the parents anything. And that's what we're seeing. And I know somebody in Washington State. That's where it's really bad, it's really advanced, washington and California, and she had her daughter taken away from her because she was in transfer for me, and the girl went to a shelter. So that's the kind of thing that can happen all over the country once it gets really bad If we don't get over this trend.

Mr. Webb: 32:16

Well, I want to. I want to get into your YouTube and Rumble. You tell us about YouTube and Rumble channels, but before we do, I usually end the episode with the one thing you want the listener to remember. So, Cindy, what's the one thing you want the listener to remember, if they don't remember anything else about this episode?

Cyndi Obrien: 32:39

Just that there's you really have. Parents really have to keep their eyes open, eyes and ears open. They start realizing that during the pandemic, Because even school board members don't always seem to know everything that's going on. So really try to get those good school board members in there. Try to find out as much as you can like. Do public records requests. If you're suspicious of something, you just really have to be your child's advocate and then watch out for these school-based health centers, because they're going to start.

Cyndi Obrien: 33:11

I think that's going to be the next biggest threat. It's a way to bring in socialized medicine, because the whole community will be able to go to the school and get even abortions. They're already doing that Psychiatric drugs and parents don't even know the kids are getting these things, but that's. That's a whole big topic. So if you hear anything about that, you know where you're having a therapist. Come into the school, just kind of try to inquire and see what's going on. Or wellness clinics coming to the school.

Mr. Webb: 33:46

I think that's good advice, Very good advice, and I'll I'll put links to your YouTube channel and, and Rumble and X but, as we wrap things up, you want to share with us how they can find out more information about you. Your YouTube channel Rumble. I mentioned X, but if there's any other social media you want to share with us. Basically, this is your time to plug or promote whatever you want to, including your podcast.

Cyndi Obrien: 34:20

Just getting started with them. So it seems like they've taken off on X quite a bit, and so I'm trying to get that also on on rumble and youtube and spotify too. Okay, I think youtube and rumble are probably a little bigger, so, yeah, so it's just, it's it's me just starting to get everything out there that I want people to know about. But, uh, I think on X is where I'm getting more of the attention or people are listening, but sooner or later I'll get more on Rumble and YouTube and, yeah, I'll share those links with you to share with everybody.

Mr. Webb: 34:59

Yeah, I guess we kind of met on X. We follow each other on X and some of the things that you post and then people's responses it's very interesting. So I'll make sure and post a link to your X formerly Twitter account. It's at O'BrienCYND72601. I'll put a link in the show notes because that might be difficult to remember.

Cyndi Obrien: 35:26

Yeah, I know I should have thought about it. Yeah, I wasn't very savvy at social media or would have thought of a better name. I like yours. I know it's too late to change it.

Mr. Webb: 35:37

Oh, that's okay, that's no problem, at least for me. I can just put a link in the show notes, so it'll be easy enough for folks to check that out. What?

Cyndi Obrien: 35:46

about.

Mr. Webb: 35:47

Instagram, Facebook, anything like that.

Cyndi Obrien: 35:51

Yeah, I'm not real crazy about Instagram and Facebook because I find they censor too much. Even YouTube seems to be censoring people, so a lot of people are going over to Rumble.

Mr. Webb: 36:03

All right, let's see. All right, and you're let's see on YouTube. It's at K-12 Former Insider. But, folks, I'm putting a link to that too, so you don't have to worry about remembering that. Just go to the show notes and I'll put links to everything. Cindy, thank you so much for joining us today. It's been a pleasure having you on the Conservative Classroom. It's been a pleasure having you on the conservative classroom, and I know our listeners appreciate your insights and your experience and hearing about the things you're blowing the whistle on.

Cyndi Obrien: 36:38

And hopefully they'll go check out your YouTube channel, yeah, and then you can see all the videos in more detail about all these different topics.

Mr. Webb: 36:45

Going into more detail with stories and everything that sounds good. They should check it out. Thank you and until next time. Thank you so much. Oh, thanks, joey Bye That's it for today's episode of the Conservative Classroom. Thank you for tuning in. I hope you enjoyed it and learned something. If you liked what you heard. Please don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review on your favorite podcast platform. Most importantly, share this podcast with a like, give feedback on the podcast or suggest a topic by sending me an email at theconservativeclassroom at gmailcom. We'd love to hear from you.

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