#10 CEO of Testosterone - Blueprint to Turning Your Life Around

We’re back with episode 10 of The Game Plan podcast with Jack Hopkins, better known as CEO of Testosterone.

We dive into Jack's experience in Thailand, taking the risk of leaving his job to chase his dreams, and the encounters that shaped his perspective. From exploring the dating scene in Thailand and Dubai to his experience in Ibiza, Jack's journey is a rollercoaster of stories and life lessons. 

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(00:00) Preview
(01:03) Early Experiences of the CEO of Testosterone 
(12:41) Advice and Mindset Shifts for a Better Life
(17:46)The importance of Sales & Strategies 
(23:12) Building Relationships & Network 
(27:25) Moving to Thailand and Chasing Dreams
(35:59) Dating Scene in Bangkok and Dubai
(48:05) Why is Personal Development Important
(57:34) Adventure, Theft, and Partying in Ibiza
(1:07:04) The Power of Making Connections

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Transcript

Jack Hopkins: 0:00

My mind's been exploded because I've really seen what is possible for somebody to do if they follow that path less travelled, because I remember working in sales jobs and trying my absolute best, like really trying hard and getting dialled in and selling stuff and making like maximum four or five grand in a month. You just need to be confident in yourself. So Cold Approach says a video I have says what to do before you Cold Approach and Cold Approach before you do that just become the man that is confident in himself. So when you've gone gym, you've stacked a bit of cash, you're feeling good, you will not find it hard to approach women anymore. When you're looking good and you feel good in your skin, you dress well. But a lot of guys want a trick so they can be a bum and go and approach a girl and get the number or whatever, and that can work sometimes. So you've got to have innate confidence to pull it off. So for most guys I'll just recommend keep doing it over and over again and if you need an opener, go up, say hello to a girl, introduce yourself. Actually, no, go up to a girl. This is one that Tate says. So go up to a girl, tell her she's beautiful. Ask her what her name is. If she asks you your name back, she's into you.

Rob Lipsett: 1:02

The CEO of Testosterone. I'm here. How did you get a title like that? Like who appointed you the CEO? Did you have to pass a board of directors?

Jack Hopkins: 1:13

We did, we did. We got it through the board of directors. No, there's a story behind that. I was in Thailand. I met Hamza and we spared together. We did our first sparring session together. Muay Thai yeah, we met in a gym a couple of times and I'd seen him on YouTube a little bit. I knew who he was, so I went and said hello and then we ended up in the same Muay Thai gym, did a sparring session together, filmed it and then he put it on his Instagram as the CEO of Testosterone. And then I took the name and I put it on YouTube and I just, I just ran with it. But after he posted that first video, I got like three or 4,000 Instagram followers in a night from his page. So people seem to like something about my persona straight from there, and that's what really got me into YouTube. Is that? That's how the name came about?

Rob Lipsett: 1:59

Yeah, Hamza's got a super engaged following, oh yeah. It's a cult. Cult leader Hamza. Yeah, it's a cult, yeah, yeah. And so for anyone who doesn't know your real name, yeah, my real name is Jack.

Jack Hopkins: 2:10

Not as good as CEO Testosterone. God damn I actually had some advice to leave the CEO of Testosterone name. To just move to my own name.

Rob Lipsett: 2:19

Yeah, yeah, cause you got a cool name, Jack Hopkins.

Jack Hopkins: 2:21

Yeah, Jack Hopkins Actually is a cool sounding name. It's not that name, but I think I'll run with CEO Tess.

Rob Lipsett: 2:25

Ostrone for a little while. Yeah, just just keep it going. One of my best mates, Joe Delaney. So his username on Instagram you know he's huge on YouTube as well His username on Instagram is Shred Bundy like after Shred and Ted Bundy, perfect. And everyone's like you. You do know that's like a serial killer. You know maybe you'd get more brand deals or customers If you change it. he's like nah it's like he's staying with it. Yeah, I want my cool name. Yeah, but he's built, like you know, a cult following as well, like a super engaged audience. So I would say, stick with it, stick with it.

Jack Hopkins: 2:59

That's what it's all about. Yeah, it's building something that people really love or feel a part of.

Rob Lipsett: 3:03

And I started actually watching our videos, I'd say six months ago. I found them on YouTube. That's crazy, yeah, yeah, and they're like. So you're quite recent, you know, and I even liked when I was looking through your videos today and sorting by the most popular stuff you're, some of your most viewed videos are only in the last like three to six months.

Jack Hopkins: 3:21

Yeah, so like you've had probably a bit of a blow up year, but I've only done it. I've only been on YouTube for one year.

Rob Lipsett: 3:27

What? Yeah, no way, are you serious? I only started a year ago. I'm an old man. I've been on it like eight years, you know the start of June.

Jack Hopkins: 3:35

The start of June, okay, I'd had a channel before. It was called Limitless Podcast. I started it in COVID and I did about 10 episodes of this Limitless Podcast and then I let it go. When I moved to Thailand, I met Hamza. That's when I started for real and did 150 days of daily videos. No way.

Rob Lipsett: 3:52

That's what it's all about. Yeah, you know, like, when you're just uploading consistently, you build up a bond with viewers, yeah, and you get way better at it, like. So I just did a podcast, not yesterday, the day before with Max Turing and today, and that was the first one I'd done in like two weeks and then now today I feel way better because I just did one, yeah, so it's like, the more you do it, the fresher you are, 100%. I want to go through the Thailand topic in a while, okay, but first I want to go back to what growing up for Jack Hopkins, what growing up was like for Jack.

Jack Hopkins: 4:26

Hopkins. Well, growing up was fairly interesting because I started in the UK but then moved to the United States. Okay, I know that I was in the US for two years. I was three years actually, from nine years old to 12 years old, and I got into acting what? Yeah, I got into acting as like a not a big child actor or anything, but I did quite a lot of commercials as the English kid in America, kind of like Macaulay Culkin. They like the blonde look and it worked well for me in America and I had an agent there and I landed jobs and stuff and started getting paid a little bit for commercials and things like that. Yeah. So from that moment I spoke about this with David yesterday from that moment, looking back, I that was the most money I'd ever made and I was like nine years old so I was getting like it wasn't a lot of money, it was like one or $2,000 for a shoot, but at that time it was crazy money to me and that got me addicted. Yeah, that got me addicted to the feeling of going in a trailer, having someone bring you doughnuts and sort of look out for you and stuff being given this money, being treated like just a bit of a style, even though it's a little commercial to me.

Rob Lipsett: 5:32

It's like the biggest thing in the world, better than me at nine years old, shitting my pants or whatever.

Jack Hopkins: 5:37

Yeah exactly, I was doing the same thing.

Rob Lipsett: 5:39

I was just doing it in the trailer. No, in style yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 5:46

I was doing it in style. But after that I was a bit addicted to that feeling of like, oh, I really want more of this, I want to be successful, I want that attention, yeah. So a lot of my childhood when I got back to the UK, I played a lot of sports. I did the normal stuff growing up, had good friends, and played football. My dad was my football coach, and had a lot of fun playing football. My dad was my coach. From five to 18 years old I ended up the captain of our team. That was amazing. Playing football and having my dad as coach, yeah. But when I got back as an agent in the UK, I was doing auditions the whole way through school and the whole way when I was younger and I got into a TV show directed by Ron Howard.

Rob Lipsett: 6:25

Yeah, yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 6:26

Called. It was a Discovery Channel thing about Einstein. I was a Hitler youth character. I was a Nazi.

Rob Lipsett: 6:34

Nice, the role you were born to play.

Jack Hopkins: 6:38

I was typecasting, I was a Nazi and that's about all I did. And then I just got a lot of rejection through that industry and I got to a point where I got to uni and I still had an agent but I couldn't be bothered to go to my auditions anymore. I was tired of it. I was tired of people saying no, it didn't feel right to me anymore and I went down a bit of a path of experimenting with drugs and alcohol in uni, as I think a lot of us do, oh yeah, and went down some dark paths. With that came the other side, went into a nine to five, worked in sales for a while, got into fighting, which sort of brought me through the other side of drugs and alcohol, got into very much. I was always into my training but just not into fighting. Fighting sorted me out. And then the move to Thailand. That's basically my story, summed up, nice.

Rob Lipsett: 7:24

I just like what you said. You know everyone. They went through that party mode and went to college and so it was obviously fighting for you. But if it wasn't like bodybuilding in the gym for me, learning by training and nutrition, my life would have been ruined. I can guarantee you that I would have been a complete waste. I would have gone off the rails. But the feeling of being consistent and being on track with my training, nutrition, same for you. And fighting I wait for the feeling, the high that I would get from going to a party.

Jack Hopkins: 7:54

So you need to find something that you value more that will keep you on track I agree, and I think for everyone, it should be training first, because it's something you have control over. That's the biggest thing. Where are auditions and things? Is always this element of non control. If I didn't get picked, it wasn't down to me. There's, maybe you just didn't like it, just didn't like me, I just wasn't. This wasn't a nazi role. What is the training? You control. It controls how you look and what you eat, and that gives you a great sense of pride. You start to build up and then you don't want to ruin your body yet literally.

Rob Lipsett: 8:28

I think now I'm blessed because I work in the fitness industry, but I just think feel free to listen, disagree with me that the foundation to success begins with training and looking after your body and your health. I think everything after once you actually master that, everything falls into place. Yeah, your confidence improves. Therefore, your business improves. You connect more people, you network with more people. Everything once you get on top of your training nutrition like people like oh, it's just going to the gym, no, no you don't get it no, it's, it fixes everything, it does but so Darren told me I think when you're in sales you had a little funny story. You got fired from sales. What's the store?

Jack Hopkins: 9:11

Behind that I did get fired from a sales job. I don't know if I told this one in the park. Was it the? Real estate one, I'm not yeah, it was the real estate one. I don't know if I told this to Darren. I don't even know if I'm allowed to tell the story. I'll tell it okay nice, nice, don't worry, fuck it you're the same space so, yeah, I got into a. I just basically, when I was at uni I got into down the path of Supporting my own drug habit. I was selling a little bit of drugs on the side. Yeah, so I'm still doing that a bit, but I wanted to get out of it. I just knew it was never going anywhere good and that wasn't what was sort of planned for me. I just know I was gonna get myself in trouble at some point, as you do if you do stuff like that. Yeah, so just decide I was trying to get out of it but I was still kind of in at the same time. So I got a job as an estate agent and I'm a man and my mom doesn't listen to the story. It is satire, satire comedy yeah yeah, anyway, we're acting. This is a character. So I got this job as an estate agent and At the same time I was still dealing. So I was in the car with this girl. There's this girl that was teaching me how to be an estate agent and do these rentals. So she was taking me around the car and she's pretty hot. I always am the estate agent, yeah, she's, she's pretty hot and I was trying to show off a little bit. She's older than me and she's so sorry I'm asking questions in the car. I did you drugs, you party a bit and stuff like that, and me just like total retard. I was just like, oh, yeah, yeah, if you need a drug, just come straight to me, I've got it. If you want to party on me, man, on me, man. And I didn't think anything of it. And then, and then later that day, I got into the office and I was doing alright, this one I've been there for a few days, but I've done alright, I was coming along, I was gonna be quite a good estate agent, nothing.

Rob Lipsett: 11:06

I got back.

Jack Hopkins: 11:07

I got caught in the office with this guy, with my, with my boss, and he sat me down and he's like so your drug dealer are you? I guess I got some too, and I was so put on the side. So I'm trying not to be Rentals anymore. You realise we definitely have you working here that's what you're currently doing for I'm dying. That is an amazing story and so did you say that job on the spot? I'm really bummed out. By going into a different sales job with seven phone systems which I stayed in for a while, I worked my way up and so I left, and after that I did, actually, after I got fired from that job, I just quit straight away, kicked everybody. I was a bit pissed at myself for ruining something.

Rob Lipsett: 12:07

Yeah, yeah I've been fired from a few jobs before and as much as we like to say I don't care, it's actually really like rejecting feeling and like, especially, what age were you at that stage? Like I was twenty one, yeah, exactly so, when I was about that age when I got fired from straight jobs as well as really lost my lazy life. And yeah, it's a bad feeling like you feel like a dumb ass. Shit job, you don't. Like you don't want to be doing and you still can't hold it. So it's a bad feeling. And so what advice would you give to your twenty year old self? What age actually? I'm twenty four, okay, nice. So what do you give your advice to five years ago yourself, five years?

Jack Hopkins: 12:54

a ago to myself it's always a tough question for me, cuz very little I want to change, because how much wisdom you gain by doing bad things or messing up and learning for sure I really wouldn't be the same if I, if I hadn't done the stuff. I would just say, and I would go back to myself and say, look, it's all gonna be alright in the end. Stick, stick to your, stick to your heart. Follow your heart and what you want to do. You know what's good, I know what's right and wrong. And I've realised that as I get older, I know when I'm doing something right and I know when I'm doing something wrong. So I just say to myself listen to yourself. When you know you're doing something wrong, stop it and start doing the right things. Nice, I wouldn't want to change too much about my past, because it's what gives you your story?

Rob Lipsett: 13:32

yeah, exactly, I'm not sure. If you look into the butterfly effect, you know the movie. What action culture I've never heard about the butterfly effect okay. So basically, it's like A butterfly, something as small as a butterfly flapping its wings on the other side of the world to trigger off a series of events that affects you, has a ripple effect, and affects so many different things. And so if you did something slightly different, like really the smallest thing different, your life could go off on a completely different trajectory. Some people are like, oh, I would change this, I would look back on this. No, you got to think of the butterfly effect. If you did anything even slightly different, you wouldn't be where you are today exactly. So that's one that I'm not a state agent. I think it's a cool job. I got mad at property last year. I got really interested in it, so that's a good one. If you send in a good house, yeah I was in boom, if I was like Not much going on now you're bad. They're living the dream. Yeah, they're honestly like, like, party and every night selling villas and eating cool people, properties, big, big game here. But so I'd say my advice, if I was to talk to my 20 year old self, same as that you know, you don't, you don't not have any regrets and mistakes, but I would say to not be afraid of taking the road less travelled. So I remember when I was in college, my college. I dropped out, but for the brief period I was in, I thought this was the only way. I thought I was like this is what we got to do. You know, we got to finish school. We go to college, we get put in a job that we don't want to do and then that's it. You have the wife, the eight yes, shit head. Kids, yeah, and that's it. Yeah, maybe going hot. You get 10 days off, you're yeah, and then that's it. And at the time I was like I want to do some, do a fitness head like to something where I can impact as many people Around the world as possible, and also do it on my own time as well. And youtube fitness was like only in america, and so when I started doing in Ireland. Everyone was like what, who the fuck is this guy think he is doing by subcursing the internet? Billy has big biceps over here, and so I want my advice to my young self to trust the process. You know, which I did, and you know, don't be afraid to take the non-conventional route. You don't have to do the thing that you've been brainwashed into doing. Yeah, that's the advice I give. And how would you say your mindset has changed over the last couple of years.

Jack Hopkins: 16:04

But my mindset in the last year has exploded. My mind has exploded because I've really seen what is possible For somebody to do if they follow that path. Less traveled, because I remember working in sales jobs and do try my absolute best, like really trying hard and getting dialed in and selling stuff and making like maximum four, five grand in a month, yeah, and thinking like I'm fucking working as hard as I can is nothing more I could be doing to make more money, and I just thought like it must take so long to get rich or make a decent amount of money. And then when you do something for yourself, when you take that risk, it just comes with all of that reward and you don't realise how easy and that something can be when you're on the right path, taking that risk which is a crazy thing for me to see after thinking Sales is the is the only way for me. In this certain job Certain sales jobs you can make a lot of money, but you have to find the right vehicle, yeah. So I'd say to somebody that's kind of stuck around that three, four Grandmart, you need to find a better vehicle or do your own thing, because that's where the real money, the real life, is at.

Rob Lipsett: 17:07

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And so what did you learn from working in that sales job? Because I want to go into a little bit of what you're doing now as your main source of income. But just while on the topic of sales, what are your three best tips when it comes to selling a product?

Jack Hopkins: 17:22

Selling a product, you have to believe in it. Yeah, and when this started for me, I had to trick myself into believing in products when I was, when I was selling phone systems, because it's a fucking phone system you got it. So if you, if you're selling a phone system, to a business that you don't really give a shit about, you have to try and make yourself believe in it. So believing in your product is huge and a customer can feel that straight away. Yeah, and you've got to understand people. You've got to be able to talk to them. People buy from, from people they like, but also people that they respect. So it's not necessarily that you don't have to be the nicest guy. You don't have to bullshit around like building rapport. You don't have to talk to somebody like, oh, how's the, how's the weather down there? What are you doing this weekend? No one really gives a shit. But if you're sharp, if you sound like a sharp guy, you know you're talking about your enthusiasm about your product, you give yourself a very good chance of selling something. And then the other thing is questions. Sales are all questions. So you ask questions to figure out what somebody really wants. Because if I'm sitting down here with you and let's say we're selling a car and I go straight into selling your Range Rover, but you're looking for a Ferrari, I can try and sell you the range all day long, but all I really needed to do is ask you some questions about what you're looking for and I could have sold you the Ferrari. But maybe some customers won't correct you, they'll just get pissed off and they'll leave. So you have to make sure you know what you're selling before you, before you sell it. So all sales are basically questions figuring out your customer, building a bit of rapport and then asking for the deal.

Rob Lipsett: 18:49

That's awesome, Nice Jesus. That was like perfectly said Smash.

Jack Hopkins: 18:54

I didn't know what I was going to sell and I was 16. Yeah, and I still sell now. Obviously it's part of the game. I said, life is sales in my opinion, and my dad is a salesman.

Rob Lipsett: 19:03

Okay, now you and your father still close, because you mentioned them with football and this as well.

Jack Hopkins: 19:08

Yeah, me and my dad are still close. Just got him. I just bought him an Omega Seamaster, the one from the Casino Royale Bond film Nice Something I've always noticed about my dad. But my dad's always given us everything we've ever wanted growing up and he's got a great house and he's done really well for himself. But I've always noticed my dad's never had a watch, Like he's never worn a nice watch or anything. So I've always wanted to sort that out. It's been on a list of things to do for a while and I was in Dubai airport and I got the Omega and gave it to him. That was pretty awesome. Oh man, what was his reaction like? Oh, he loves it, he loves it. He's just wearing it nonstop now.

Rob Lipsett: 19:42

Yeah, that's amazing. I remember, like growing up, my dad was in the army. He was extremely high ranking. You know he played at GA it's an Irish sport for his county Sligo. He was like an amazing athlete and so we were very close growing up and then around, like when I was about 10, 11, 12, my parents separated and he kind of just, you know, walked out, went out and did his own thing from really important years for me, like between kind of like 12 to 20. Then, you know, we kind of re-reignited, reunited a little bit, yeah, but only recently have we really started kicking things off again and becoming best mates and that's. It's just such a good feeling. And one of the highlights of my year was like so when I finished this villa I had it built I flew him out and we just just me and him. You know I sent my girlfriend back in for the weekend. She went off and I and I just had an amazing weekend together. Just father and son catching up, and it was one of the proudest moments of just you know, my dad's seeing this place. Oh, that's awesome yeah, so that's awesome. And I'm delighted to hear about the watch.

Jack Hopkins: 20:48

Yeah.

Rob Lipsett: 20:48

And so let's go into your business. Okay, you got a CEO. I'm the CEO, so tell me what exactly it is you do and what are your sources of income.

Jack Hopkins: 20:58

I have two arms for my business, okay. So the main business that I run now is called the new elite and it's a network for entrepreneurs guys like us that are into their fitness, they're into their health, their mindset. They want to make money online, they want to travel the world, they want to do cool things, they want to live that road less travelled with other guys, because it's so good to have brotherhood. So we put together this network of entrepreneurs. We meet up around the world. We've got chat rooms talking about various different things: crypto, money, business, all that stuff, all the good stuff, all my courses in there as well and then and then we do a lot of meetups. So guys meeting up, getting together, cigar dinners. We do masterminds as well around the world, and it's basically a network for guys. Let's say, you're listening to this now and you're making 10 grand a month, you've started your business, but you feel alone. Your friends are not on the same path. Yeah, and you want guys. You can share your stories with guys that are doing 100, 200 grand a month that you can talk to and get advice from, and I just find that that accelerates people's progress so quickly. Yeah, so we do that, but that's our main business. Is that membership for that? And we're just growing that out, building different arms to it. We're going to have locations as well, so actual clubs like club houses Go on Marbella, you've been ripping it.

Rob Lipsett: 22:10

I'd love to.

Jack Hopkins: 22:11

I'd actually love to. Marbella is amazing. My first time here, awesome place. Can imagine myself going there. But we're building out of that, so building a team. At the moment we promote leadership inside of the group, so we've got leaders in different countries putting events on Lodolads. Just got back from Croatia. They went and did some mountain hiking and then we did an event in London a couple of weeks back and then the other on. My business is for guys that are not making 10 grand a month, yeah, or not really making any money online, yeah, and they want to get into sales. So we teach them. It's a three stage course. It's called the 10k accelerator. Start is mindset and body. So all my training programs, how I got my mind right bang, just sort that out Shattering limit Just saying. Yeah, getting your head straight, because without that you can't do anything. Yeah, get your head straight, sort yourself out. Number two we've got a sales professor in there, a guy called Connor who's done seven figures selling other people's offers online. So he teaches how to get into online sales so you can sell from anywhere in the world, like through zoom calls. We've got a full course on where to find the jobs, how to become good at sales. And then the third part is for guys that maybe they found a job working for someone else, they're making 10 grand a month but they want to do their own offer. I did a personal branding section at the end of it on how I built my YouTube, my personal brand of my offers. Okay, so if they want to do their own stuff, they can, and that's the two businesses we have. So we have the courses there for guys sort of under 10 grand a month ideally $10,000 a month would go into the 10k accelerator. Guys over 10k a month would go and network and that's where they get their value from.

Rob Lipsett: 23:46

And so look, 90% of courses that I see out there. A lot of them are BS, All right. So the funniest thing is it's guys claiming to be experts on a topic and they make money off that topic, but the only thing they're actually making money off is the course they're selling about the topic. It's so funny. They're not actually good at that. So how do we know your course is legit?

Jack Hopkins: 24:12

Well, my course is run by a guy, so I totally agree with you and, to be transparent, I make my money from my courses. Yeah, so before this, I made, I did sales, but I didn't make a huge amount of my money from it. Yeah, so my money has come from online business and course sales.

Rob Lipsett: 24:27

Yes, but that's what it's about, so it's okay. I'm talking about crypto guys who've never made any money in crypto and they're selling courses about crypto. Yes, yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Jack Hopkins: 24:36

As I knew that, although I've done sales for a long time, I've not worked enough online sales jobs and I've not done the money that I wanted to do. So we hired a guy specifically to put it inside there. He runs a discord, he does a weekly call with everyone. He built out half the course. I built out the other half of the course in terms of the mindset and the fitness stuff, like I've done that.

Rob Lipsett: 24:56

Oh yeah, I've got receipts on that.

Jack Hopkins: 24:58

Yeah, for sure, and I got receipts on the personal branding as well. Yeah, so it's only that bit in the middle and then the rest is a network. So you just have to trust that the network is good and we've got testimonials and things and we seriously changed people's lives. Like I could show you some testimonials.

Rob Lipsett: 25:13

That's awesome. I've fucking changed people's lives. Okay, yeah, I've even actually seen common. I think one of the best ways to look out for if something's legit or not is, of course, reviews and testimonials. Yeah, but even like, I've seen your comments on YouTube and everything and they're awesome. You know, you can just tell that you're doing a great job. So, yeah, fair play on that, awesome. And then so when it comes to I know it's a buzzword recently, but it summarised it well escaping the matrix living off the grid. You know you're in Thailand, you're in the Bay Area here. What are some of the first steps you need to take to live a life of freedom?

Jack Hopkins: 25:46

You've got to get control of your income. That's the first thing. So if you can build out an offer and have access to your own stripe and make your own money coming into your bank and not relying on someone to pay you, that's very, very good. I would say, if you can't do that just having a reliable someone reliable to pay you in online sales, for example that you know that money's coming in and then you need to take yourself out of banking in one country. So many people are banked in one country, which is fucking awesome, like you didn't realize how unstable that whole system is. So you need to get yourself. I would recommend, if you're making over 10 grand a month, for maybe 20 grand a month, and you're not currently banking out of Dubai, that could be a really good move for you. If you're not interested in living in the UK for more than 90 days a year, go to a bank in Dubai. Also, there's many countries around the world that you can go to and you can pay a certain amount of money to open bank accounts.

Rob Lipsett: 26:40

So you go and open bank accounts around the world. What are some good ones?

Jack Hopkins: 26:42

them. Thailand's pretty good, yeah.

Rob Lipsett: 26:44

I've actually heard that, yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 26:45

Thailand's pretty good for banking. You can go there, get the right visas, do it the right way, open a bank account. Thailand's an amazing place to live. You can split your time between Thailand and Dubai. That's what I do, nice. Then you can bank in both places. You can keep your home banks as well your home credit cards. Keep a little bit there. Keep a little bit there, yeah. And then there's a couple other places. These are the only places I bank at the moment, so I can't tell you much about any more, but I'm planning to spend the night.

Rob Lipsett: 27:13

Yeah, I know what you mean. And so how did you end up in Thailand, of all places?

Jack Hopkins: 27:17

Thailand. That came from the movie the Beach.

Rob Lipsett: 27:22

And one of my favourites ever. So I'll actually tell you this, right, do you know? On Pee-Pee Island? So I don't know if it's there. Yeah, exactly where it's filmed. So I was there at the time, right, and I was with a group of friends from school. I was very young, maybe 1920. Do you know? I think it's called a banana bar. It's like an upstairs bar. I don't know if you can still go there.

Jack Hopkins: 27:43

I've never been there yet. Oh, you've never been to my bed yet, oh what?

Rob Lipsett: 27:46

Oh no, but Pee-Pee Island. I've never been to Pee-Pee Island. Oh wait, that's amazing, right. I don't know if it's Pee-Pee or Pee-Pee. Pee-pee sounds kind of gross, but right. So there's this bar and it's called a banana bar and you have to climb up a winding stairs to get to it and it's like on a rooftop. It overlooks the whole town and you can buy, like weed over the counter. I'm not big into weed at the time, me neither. Yeah. I think we'll go into that. I think it rots the brain, but anyways, at the time I would pro-legalize it. You know, I don't think it's worse, I think alcohol is worse, but I'm not into it myself, anyways. So you go up, everyone's smoking, it's a nice atmosphere, you can get really nice food burritos. There's hammocks everywhere and they have a huge projector and I remember I went up there and they're playing on the beach. That's the first time I ever watched that movie. Really, oh my God. So it was like you could see my abay from the roof, so I fell in. You know, I was with all my friends. We were having a few beers, watching the beach and basically living on the roof at the same time. It was exactly, and we were like I was broke, you know, and we were wearing the worst clothes and it was like I'll never forget. That's the first time I watched it, so I fell in love with that movie. So the size story, but go on.

Jack Hopkins: 28:57

Amazing, yeah, so I had the same experience, but just from my bedroom when I was 14 years old. I'm watching that in my bedroom thinking what am I stuck here doing this? I was only 14 at the time, so there's not much I could do about it. But it remained in my mind and I started training Muay Thai because it was a part of MMA and a great Muay Thai instructor. I started looking online for these Muay Thai camps and I was just fascinated. I made a dream board. I had a girlfriend at the time long-term girlfriend. We had an apartment together. I made it. I had an office there. I made a dream board in my apartment. I had all these trees on it and different villas in Thailand and Muay Thai camps and stuff. I met my girlfriend coming in. What's that? It's my dream, planning your great escape for the future. It is my fear of the future.

Rob Lipsett: 29:39

She's like where am I on the dream board? I don't want to do that. Yeah, so you're a dream bitch, my dream board. What's that fighting thing on there? No, she was all right to me first. She's not a bad girl, she's not a bad girl, but I'm not a bad girl. I'm not a bad girl. I'm not a bad girl, I'm not a bad girl.

Jack Hopkins: 29:52

I'm not a bad girl. I'm not a bad girl, I'm not a bad girl. No, she was all right to me first. But anyway, I had this dream board and then it just got more and more real for me and I started saving money. At the same time, I was working in sales, I always had a bit of money going away into a pot and I got to about 10 grand and I was like, well, I could genuinely move there now If I just give everything up, I could just go. Then I did. One day I got home and I broke up with my girlfriend, which was sad at the time because I wasn't doing anything particularly wrong. I just knew I had to go and do more with my life. Then I went and quit my job. That was amazing. That was the best feeling, enough fire.

Rob Lipsett: 30:28

You quit this time.

Jack Hopkins: 30:29

I quit the job and said guys, I'm off. They were lovely about it as well. They weren't bad people at all. They were really, really happy for me.

Rob Lipsett: 30:35

Yeah, I actually had the same experience. So I've been fired from a load of jobs, but the last one, or one of the ones it was kind of you know, because I was working two jobs at a time it's kind of muddled. There was one job that I quit and it was like a you know nine to six office job and the owner of the company you know, I was really young, I was like 22. The owner of the company was like yeah, well, you're not doing much around here anyway. So yeah, you're gonna say go do your thing.

Jack Hopkins: 30:58

You don't have to fire you, yeah exactly.

Rob Lipsett: 31:01

Yeah but yeah, they were cool about it and then. So you just moved to Thailand which is where I moved straight.

Jack Hopkins: 31:05

so I had to. It was around COVID time so I had to jump through a few hoops. I had to do a quarantine in Bangkok, did a quarantine in Bangkok, met these two French twins downstairs Unfortunately they weren't female.

Rob Lipsett: 31:15

Okay, I was about to say like French twins, that sounds pretty hard that sounds

Jack Hopkins: 31:19

pretty hard yeah yeah, they weren't female, but they were really nice guys and we travelled together for a bit. So we went straight to Koh Samui. We celebrated the New Year there, which was actually open. They'd opened up for New Year so we had a party there and that was my first look into the Thailand experience. I remember pulling the hot, one of the hottest girls I'd ever been with on my first night in Thailand.

Rob Lipsett: 31:39

We were just having a crazy night mate, yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 31:42

And then. So I was like, wow, this art, fucking love this place, yeah. And then we went to Phuket, spent a bit of time there, travelled around together, did Pangang, we're hanging out. I was partying a little bit. At this point. I was doing online fitness coaching through my Instagram to make money and got to a point where they had to go. They finished their vacation and I settled down in Koh Samui to get some work done and started training hard, started working hard and ended up on YouTube and then it's all gone from there and now I'm Bangkok based. I'm flying back to Bangkok. I just got a penthouse in Bangkok, which I'm super excited about. Wait, you bought one.

Rob Lipsett: 32:18

No, no, no, I'm not going to buy one. Yeah, yeah, because that's a ballsy one. That could be like that could go anyway.

Jack Hopkins: 32:25

You know you can buy condos there fairly easily. Now in Thailand there's a few. There's some good legislation coming through in Thailand for buying places. Yeah, so you can actually buy them without having to have a Thai partner.

Rob Lipsett: 32:39

Oh yes, Some of the rules have changed. There's like rules, but yeah, there's like rules in Bali, whereas, like, you never actually own the property. It's like something, unless you're Indonesian, there's some weird shit like that, yeah, yeah. So you got a nice one. You got a nice penthouse.

Jack Hopkins: 32:53

I got a nice penthouse that's rented for a year now, so I'm looking forward to that. A few me and some great friends I made through New Elite are moving there together Sick and not living in the same place, but we're all in the same building. Okay, yeah, so we're just going to run riot.

Rob Lipsett: 33:06

You are going to run the show.

Jack Hopkins: 33:08

We're just going to. We're going to, we're going to work all day. We're just going to. We've got the gym downstairs, we've got squash downstairs, sauna, pool, everything. It's going to be amazing. So I can't, I cannot wait. So, wait, wait so it's in Bangkok.

Rob Lipsett: 33:19

Would you not like to think of yourself on the islands, or is that just too unproductive?

Jack Hopkins: 33:23

I was there for a year and a half and I've had Villa on the islands and I've done that. I've had my sort of dream villa that I had on my dream board yeah, I've had that. I've had that for six months. And the truck and the motorbike I've had, I've had all of that and, yeah, just think it's slightly too unproductive on the islands. I've still got a place there. I've got a two bed, the Scott of Paul, that I can go back to. Okay, yeah, so it's an hour flight, so a lot of our boys are there, so we'll fly there on the weekends or every other weekend to get the island vibe. Yeah, but Bangkok is so much fun.

Rob Lipsett: 33:56

Yeah, you spent a lot of time. Oh, I've spent loads of time. Yeah, I did like two or three months, two months, just going around Thailand. This is before YouTube or anything, before I was doing any of that. But yeah, so I know I've been to everywhere, so I know what every island's like in Bangkok, but I haven't done it with any money. So, yeah, that's the key. I was like a broke backpacking student.

Jack Hopkins: 34:18

It's a different world. Yeah, I was borrowing money from my friends.

Rob Lipsett: 34:21

Like oh, I need another week and all that and like eating street food. I'm sure you would like to eat in the Nobu-esque type of places, yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 34:30

Especially in Bangkok. So that was kind of the other reason for Bangkok, like Samui, you can't spend money. No, you can't spend more than 10 grand.

Rob Lipsett: 34:36

It's impossible. Yeah yeah, there's no shopping. There's no shops. There's nothing there.

Jack Hopkins: 34:42

Yeah, there is one mall, but there's nothing really there. I know the mall.

Rob Lipsett: 34:45

Yeah, so actually I went back in recent years with Joe Delaney, my friend Joey D, and you know that's when we did have, you know, decent YouTube channels and BitCash and stuff and we went to that mall I know the one you're talking about and we ordered like. It was honestly like a pound of sashimi, loads of sushi, everything Every day after the gym. We would just order that and it was like 10 euro. If anything, we were eating like kings. Oh yeah, it's nuts. It's amazing. You know, if you actually want to just train hard, you know, get some sun, you can obviously go on the pass, but you know, and eat like it came pretty much.

Jack Hopkins: 35:20

It's a beautiful life. It is a really beautiful life. We had a great time there, yeah, and I love going back. I get a great feeling going back because that's where everything started. For me A year and a half there to change my life, yeah. So when I go back and I spend a bit of time there, it's amazing. But Bangkok, if you want to do it, especially if you're in business and I have to go to Dubai for obviously having my business set up in Dubai, it's very easy to get there.

Rob Lipsett: 35:43

Yeah, there's direct flights, there's a South flight.

Jack Hopkins: 35:45

Yeah, great flight path, and yeah, so Bangkok's the place for me. Now you can do everything you want to do Perfect In Bangkok.

Rob Lipsett: 35:52

And tell me right. So you mentioned French twins are there, unfortunately male, but you said you did get a fit bird on your first night. Yeah, what's the dating scene like in Bangkok or in Thailand?

Jack Hopkins: 36:03

In general, I think the dating scene is really good. Yeah, girls are so kind, yeah, and it's very easy. For a Western guy it's really easy. But, that being said, you have to be very, very careful. You have to know your way around women and the framing of relationships, because if it's easy for you, it's easy for everyone else. So you still have to look in the right places. You have to find the right kind of girl. I think you can find girls a lot easier, but some of the girls are. Maybe they just want some money from you, but it'll never be obvious. Like it is in Dubai, like Dubai is one of the worst dating scenes in my opinion, bro. It's wild.

Rob Lipsett: 36:41

What have you got from dating in Dubai?

Jack Hopkins: 36:45

I've definitely got some experiences from Dubai.

Rob Lipsett: 36:49

So what are some? red flags to look out for when dating Dubai. I'll go first. Right, you go first bro. If she's got in her bio, if it says London, Dubai. Get out of there, get out of there, and then you look at the pictures right Marjettes, yachts, you know Dior Fendi shopping everything. And then it's like it says something like she didn't have a job. And I'm like the man. Hairdresser. She must be the fucking CEO of the world, ceo of Lori Hell, or something, but it's like the math ain't math thing. So that's the first thing I would look out for. Yeah 100%.

Jack Hopkins: 37:34

I wouldn't date in Dubai at all. Don't do it to yourself. Don't do it. I think if you're in Dubai and you've got girls from maybe back home that you want to fly out and see that that's often what guys do Girls back home because you've, like a British girl that's grown up in the countryside or whatever and gone to normal school, is such a different girl to these girls in Dubai, like she will appreciate things so much more. And same with Thai girls as well. Like if you get a Thai girl, she's from Chiang Mai or something like a small village and she's never really had anything at all, and then you want to show her this kind of life. I think that's amazing. I think that's a great thing to do, much better than showing it to these girls that have had it already, like Princess.

Rob Lipsett: 38:15

Like actually royalty life.

Jack Hopkins: 38:16

They don't value it anymore. You see it in their eyes. They expect dinners. They, you go spend, drop a grand on dinner. I dropped a grand on a dinner with me and a buddy, a couple of his girlfriends too and a girl I was with, and they don't even notice it, it's just a gift, it's not even a present. Thank you, this is standard. Like it would have to be something amazing. And my girl was in my ear like not my girl, but the girl I was with was in my ear on this date. Like would you ever buy me stuff? Like show me stuff to buy. And I was like you're fucking nuts.

Rob Lipsett: 38:50

They just like, they just expect it, like they're just on their phone constantly scrolling through.

Jack Hopkins: 38:57

She was pretty hot. So she was like if we were going to be together, would you be willing to buy me this stuff? The cheek of that. And I was like. I was like what are you talking about? So the second time we've seen each other, why are we going to be together? Like, your personality is dreadful.

Rob Lipsett: 39:13

You're so annoying. So do you spend more time in Dubai or Thailand?

Jack Hopkins: 39:19

Oh, more time in Thailand. I am really warming to Dubai. I didn't like it at first but, if you've, I found a great group of guys in Dubai that we've hung out with. We ended up networking with shout out Wakar and your friends Wakar. We went to his pod. He's doing a new podcast but we found some guys that are amazing for networking with guys, oh yeah.

Rob Lipsett: 39:39

You find some real heavy hits, especially in the fitness scene. Like everyone's there, I'm going out there in December, January, February, so I'll be out there for a good few months and need to just get a play. Where do you stay in Dubai?

Jack Hopkins: 39:52

Actually, I actually stay at the park higher right next to the airport a lot of the time. Really yeah, that's really good. The hotel's incredible, yeah, really really good service. Amazing place to stay, a little bit far off the marina, but that's amazing for just chilling. I woke up early there. I wake up about five in the morning there, go to bed at eight o'clock, go to the sauna, just get my head straight and work. Because it's close to the bank I need to go to as well. That's why I stay there, nice, but otherwise we go to the marina. We normally stay at the EMA building on the. You know where the marina is. You got the W hotel. You got that little sort of jetty that comes out. Yes, there's new builds on there. One of the EMA buildings there, I think that's right in Mar. One of those new builds is on Airbnb. They're really good to stay at as well. I think you'd have gone to Pod, who lives in Dubai. Let me see who.

Rob Lipsett: 40:49

I want to say James, oh yeah, James Blackwell. Yeah he's actually out here next week.

Jack Hopkins: 40:54

He's out here for the month, but yeah he lives in Dubai for the month he's in, like a similar area. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Rob Lipsett: 40:59

I love Rixos on JBR. It's like one of the best hotels I've ever stayed at. Stayed there a good few times, but I like JBR because I like walking. Okay, I like to go for a daily walk, like an hour's walk every single day, just walk around the neighbourhood, like it's like how I de-stress Got you, just walk, get in my steps in and Dubai is motorways. Yeah, you know, there's not many places you can walk. So it's like I love staying in JBR. It's just a nice pedestrian area. The only thing I would not like about Dubai is that it's a little bit concrete. I still always have a good time when I move out there and I think I'm going to do at least three months there. But so now I was looking at some of your YouTube videos okay, and some of your most viewed videos are about cold approaches. Yeah, Okay, right. So tell me, Tell the people I know what it is Okay, right. Tell the people what is a cold approach and what's your advice for going about it.

Jack Hopkins: 41:51

Oh yeah, cold approach is when you approach. You see a girl that you like and you approach her in the street to get her number or introduce yourself to her. And the cold approach is actually ridiculously easy, like you don't need a special trick, you just need to be confident in yourself. So cold approach. There's a video where I have said what to do before you approach. And cold approach before you do that. Just become the man that is confident in himself. So when you've gone to the gym, you've stacked a bit of cash, you're feeling good, you will not find it hard to approach women anymore. When you're looking good and you feel good in your skin, you dress well. But a lot of guys want a trick. So they can be a bum and go and approach a girl and get the number or whatever, and that can work. Sometimes that you've got to have innate confidence to pull it off. So for most guys I'll just recommend keeping doing it over and over again. And if you need an opener, go up, say hello to a girl, introduce yourself. Actually, no, go up to a girl. This is one that Tate says. So go up to a girl, tell her she's beautiful, ask her what her name is. She asks you your name back, she's into you, okay. But if she doesn't, she just says if you say, oh, excuse me, let me stop, you just needed to say that you're really beautiful, what's your name? And then she tells you, and then you wait a second, and then if she says what's your name in return, she asks you what's your name, then you know you're on, then it's on, then you know you're on. If she just says, oh, thank you. Yeah, yeah, thanks, thank you. My name is, then then, then, then it's not for you. But the good thing is with that you're never gonna get anyone sort of horribly decline you in that situation and even if they do, doesn't fuck, doesn't matter, doesn't matter at all. Yeah, so cold bro. Just just about really going up to girls, being ballsy, just just doing what you need to do, just going and saying they're beautiful, or just going, introducing yourself, asking them a random question, getting into a conversation. That way I like to do it actually more naturally. So if I'm in a shop and I see a girl, I like I have a thing in my head. If I see a beautiful girl, always speak to her and I don't think about it. I just speak to her because the more you do that, the better you would come at doing this and the more girls you see, yeah, the more chance you have. If you, every beautiful girl you see, instantly in your head you think I'll probably got a boyfriend, probably turn me down. You never speak to them. It's never gonna happen for you. You'd be surprised how many times I've gone to someone I thought was a 10 and would definitely have a boyfriend and they've been pleased to speak to me. Yeah, I'll give you an example, come on. So I was in Dubai, actually, and I was, I spent the day at what's that? Beach club bistro. Yeah, barista, barista, be something yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the spot there with a. I was there with a girl in the day with me, my friend area with a couple of girls, and it was all going very well, had a few drinks together, everyone's getting on well. So I was like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be the big man here, I'm gonna book the W, a suite at the W. No, it's just like 800 pounds for a night. So booked it, bang, done. All right, just around the corner, let's go. So we go, we go to this, to the W hotel. They won't let me in. They won't let me or her in, because we didn't have our passports, what we have pictures, but we didn't have the physical okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and they're a bit strict on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, that's so that happens. I was already a little bit drunk this time so I wasn't as cool about it as I should have. Never goes down, well, and the girls obviously did not find it cool at all that I've gotten pissed off, so she's just did. She's like I'm going home but I'll see you some other time. Yeah, and I'm like fuck, I've just sent 800 quid on this hotel room. Never, never, do that. Guys, like never, never be relying on a girl to come back. Yeah, you spent money because you give off the wrong vibe.

Rob Lipsett: 45:29

I've actually had a disaster with that in that I booked a whole weekend and never do it, never ever she's like I don't wear a friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 45:45

I was pissed. I went home. I went to the apartment, me and Dario in. I was like mate, I'm pissed off, I've lost my girl, you. So what's happened? And I was like, oh yeah, they wouldn't let us in. She's gone home now. I got my passport, checked him and went up to the bar and there's 10 out of 10 Russian girls sitting on her own. And I was angry. So I just walked by, said who are you here with? And just shouted at her and she's like no one. And I was like can I sit there? And she's like, yeah, come sit with me. I was like, all right, drinks, wait, I brought some drinks. I started drinking, started drinking, started drinking with the hotel and normally you walk in, you just wouldn't speak to her. You work, you're too hot, you wouldn't see it to us feeling loose. I was feeling a bit angry anyway, so I just went for it and paid off.

Rob Lipsett: 46:25

Yeah absolutely, and you know what I'm often, when there's a super hot girl smoking hot girl, no one's talking to her. Yeah, so, like that's the advantage that you have, by just going up and spending some gain, you've gotten under lose and 99% of dudes in that room, especially just in there, and they're not talking to her. Anyways, go for the 10s boys. Yeah, yeah just go straight to the top.

Jack Hopkins: 46:47

Come on Seasons.

Rob Lipsett: 46:50

I love that guy. He's always in Marbella, is he? All his videos. Marbella. I've never met him. I just saw him take the dog. He's a legend. Yeah, he's a legend. We need to get him on the bar. Yeah, how did you get into the kind of dating scene as well? Like I, was there a bad breakup that kind of made you learn about openers, cold approach and game in general.

Jack Hopkins: 47:11

I've always been into it, like since I was really young, yeah, like ever since I was starting out with girlfriends at school and stuff and I was like 10. Yeah, yeah, nice, I was always into girls. I've always loved that stuff. So I've had a fair few different girlfriends and a lot of relationships with girls, short ones, long ones, whatever and then I just realised that often the way to get attention from a lot of guys, that's what they want. A lot of the reasons we do anything that we do is because we want it's all women. A hot girl spur on the world.

Rob Lipsett: 47:41

Yeah, man wouldn't invade countries or start businesses. If it wasn't to get the girl we want, a hot girlfriend, we wouldn't even go to the gym. No, exactly.

Jack Hopkins: 47:52

So I realised what you think, if that's why we're doing everything, I might as well do some videos on it, because that's probably what's gonna relate with a lot of guys. That's what they want to learn about. Yeah, so for me, I've always been into it, mate. I've been doing this forever.

Rob Lipsett: 48:05

Yeah, and where did you first look to learn about it? I know where I first first kind of fell into that, but it is that. Did you just like, did you read a book or watch some?

Jack Hopkins: 48:14

videos. I read the rational mail.

Rob Lipsett: 48:16

Oh yeah, rollo Tomasi. Yeah, that's awesome, that's, that's one the best. Yeah, it's a pretty savage one. Yeah, another really good one, and it's like I don't know the name of the book. It's by Richard Cooper. You know, alfa 20 red flags or the rational mail? No, no something alpha, alpha, something.

Jack Hopkins: 48:34

Yeah, I know the book.

Rob Lipsett: 48:35

Yeah, yeah he's awesome as well.

Jack Hopkins: 48:37

That's a great book, yeah. Richard Cooper is really cool, yeah.

Rob Lipsett: 48:40

I'm gonna get him on the podcast.

Jack Hopkins: 48:41

I had a mentor like not not paid for anything yeah, just a friend, a friend a much older friend who I met. I met online, actually through an entrepreneurial group, when I was first getting, before I went out to Thailand and I quit my job and left my girlfriend. I ended up speaking to this guy, david, in the states, big G, nice big G, david, humongous beard, and we just started chatting and obviously, if you're chatting with guys, a lot of conversation does go to women and I was fairly blue peeled at the time, very more traditional and very much indoctrinated into a system from the UK, yeah, and I started speaking to David and figuring out some of the stuff he was doing with girls and like and all this different things and some of the things he was pulling off. And he started teaching me about it and talking to me about it and telling me how the world really works when it comes to women and what they actually want. And he's about to think he's 36, 37. And I was 22, so he had a lot more experience with me, so he was the guy that got me into it. I started testing. I was like shit, this stuff works.

Rob Lipsett: 49:45

Yeah, yeah, it's crazy I was. So I was in like a six year relationship for my current relationship, right, and so we had a bad breakup and, like you know, there's a lot of shit on her phone that I came across and all this and it it read build me, it snapped me out of it, okay, and it was great in hindsight, you know, like we're like 24 25, so broke up but went our separate ways. But so I was like, oh, I don't know how to even speak to girls, I don't even know how to date. So I started watching like a lot of YouTube like your real social dynamics or SD and all these guys, and just the underlying message was just to be more confident, yeah, you know, and is to work on yourself and goes when you have got your life set up, well then, now it's, you can go on dates. Now the girls will chase you, exactly right. So just put yourself in a position where you're not chasing around looking desperate, yeah, whereas your life is so sick. People want to get involved. So that was like the biggest dating thing I learned.

Jack Hopkins: 50:44

And a lot of it comes down to having you read Dan Bilzerian's book the setup. I've read bits of it.

Rob Lipsett: 50:51

I've yet to read the full thing. I love that book, but I think Dan's awesome.

Jack Hopkins: 50:54

Dan is a crazy legend.

Rob Lipsett: 50:57

I hate when people say they don't like him. I've actually got, like you know, people, loads of people that have met him and gone to his parties and said he's the nicest guy ever.

Jack Hopkins: 51:05

Yeah well, I've seen basically everything Dan's, but out of all his podcasts. Yeah, he seems like a down to earth G and his books are amazing, yeah, okay and we're basically talking about it. It's all about the setup. So when you set up your life in the right way, when you have the Vida in Marbella and you're going out and doing the cool stuff and people find you on the internet and you've got some money and you're in shape, and then he talks a lot about if you want to close the deal, you you need to have everything set up in a way where it's not difficult. So there'll be guys that stay in a hotel an hour away from the club, yeah, and they try and get a couple of girls back that they've met and they say oh, where's your hotel? It's here, no, not going. Yet compared to the guy that has the hotel five minutes across the road. Bang, he gets the two girls oh, it's just over here, it's just five minutes away sweet upstairs and the girls. Yeah, it's the sweet upstairs, it's in, it's in the back, whatever the setup is so important when it comes to women, especially if you're in a young stage. You're partying, you want to just see women? Yeah, actually, you need to make sure you've got the setup, yeah, correct, otherwise you're just shooting yourself in the foot. Exactly like Dan talks about when he's. When he's younger, he used to go to this lake house that I think is one of his dad's friends had, and they go to this lake house and him and his buddy would be out on the boat and they pull up to other lake houses around the dock and be like, oh, do you want to go on the wakeboards with the girls? And they've got an activity today, yes, and after they'd be like, oh, do you want to come out of a barbecue, our place? And before you know it, they're back in there. They're into you because the setup was so easy.

Rob Lipsett: 52:31

And one of the easiest places that I've pulled when I was single . I've gone there so many times to Las Vegas, and the reason for that is because every single hotel or nightclub, every night club in a hotel and every hotel has a nightclub. Have you ever been to Vegas? I've never been to Vegas. Oh, okay, get me to Vegas, baby. Yeah, we're going. Oh so I mean, like you know, let's say you're in Omnia or Caesars Palace, whatever it is all the big nightclubs are like. You can probably picture Las Vegas, you know what it looks like. They're all just on the bottom floor off the hotel. So it's like, whatever you're staying, you're literally just like key card bang, bang. You've resumed the night afterwards.

Jack Hopkins: 53:14

Fantastic Out for seconds and seconds, yeah exactly, oh, one minute of glory.

Rob Lipsett: 53:21

That's so interesting. You know logistics, how that's kind of one of the biggest factors, and so we've also got a video that I had a good look at today and it's. It was titled how to go from a two to a ten how a guy can do that look maxing.

Jack Hopkins: 53:36

Yeah, I think it's two to nine or something, something like that, yeah something like that, right?

Rob Lipsett: 53:41

So tell me right, how does a guy go up a few levels and what does he look like?

Jack Hopkins: 53:46

Looks. Maxing is when you change the way that you look. You do everything in your power to become the best person that you could possibly be. So If you are currently sitting there addicted to video games and you've got no muscle on you and you don't have a job and you've got very little self respect and You're watching porn all the time, you could probably be around two or three, depending on the way that you look. If you've never done any self development, you can improve those numbers massively. If you just start hitting the gym, you sort your skin out, you sort your hair out, you get some, you get a stylist or you go and speak to someone. So my friend Dario, he actually said Once you got a little bit of money, go and speak to one of the store assistants in a shop. But we shop a lot now , boss of really doing some good stuff really yeah, and I love massimo dirty at the moment.

Rob Lipsett: 54:33

I know how you pronounce it.

Jack Hopkins: 54:34

I've not. I've not been there.

Rob Lipsett: 54:35

Oh man, there's one yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 54:37

I have this one in my bed, yeah, yeah yes, I've managed.

Rob Lipsett: 54:42

Besides, our quality, perfect and good prices, oh yeah, yeah, exactly. You don't even need a shop sign, you know like obviously it's great if you do, but you know there's, so there's a lot of good options.

Jack Hopkins: 54:51

There's a lot of options, but go and speak to somebody that knows style and fashion. Find somebody on the internet that you want to replicate their style, somebody that does well, yeah, and looks good, and then go into the store and say, look, I want to look like this guy. What can you recommend? Dress me up, get yourself sorted. Where is it nice? Where is nice cologne? I mean? There's so much you can do. If you're currently two or three and you start training and you learn how to fight and you start a business or you start working a job and you have all this self confidence, it doesn't really matter if you're ugly, yeah, ugly. Guys get pussy, oh, yeah like girls don't care that much if you're, if you're built and you're a bit ugly and you make, and you make money and you and your dress, well, yeah, smell good and you're well groomed. There's nothing you can't really do.

Rob Lipsett: 55:30

Yeah, I'm like hey, yeah, the girls I date are taller than me, I'm sure yeah gonna happen for me.

Jack Hopkins: 55:39

Just fuck it. You just nothing you fucking do about. Yeah, you just gotta go out there, just just go get it exactly and you know what.

Rob Lipsett: 55:44

So I think the basis is, you know, obviously losing body fat and getting in shape. But so many people like guys and even girls, they've got great looking faces and if they just like you know, and got themselves healthy and in shape, yeah, it's like you're kind of giving yourself a facelift, like you change your actual looks, like when you lose body fat. You don't just change your physique, no, change your looks as well and obviously your discipline, your mindset, yeah, and everything. So I'm a believer that a guy can go from like a tree to an eight and I like guys, especially like fade. Yeah, I get a fade every week. I'm gonna get one now, yeah but yeah. So I think guys can make huge improvements and they don't even like, realise it, and they don't realise even like the positive effect. It's not bad, it's not just a vanity thing, it's like the positive effect when you look in the mirror and you see something that you're proud of, you're proud of, the way you present yourself. It's gonna have an impact on every single thing in your life. Totally agree. And so what's the day today, life, looking like you at the moment when you wake up?

Jack Hopkins: 56:50

I know you're on holiday at the moment, but generally speaking, if, generally speaking, if we're in, if we're in Bangkok right now, I would probably wake up in the morning in the gym. Wake up Seven downstairs in the gym, yeah, work out hard. Sauna upstairs on the, on the, on the laptops team, come round. Clues, sort of sales, yeah, marketing, perhaps videographer not 100% sure yet. Might still shoot solo, deciding whether to get a videographer or not, yeah, but we're basically mapping out Okay, what's gonna be like this week, what have we got to do about how we're gonna get leads in for our courses and things go for all of that. Eat, well, plenty of steak, three steaks today, yeah, yeah, it's steak and eggs and rice. And then hit our targets for cash collected. And then go do something fun. Nice. Go and do something fun. So get, take some girls out, go for a nice dinner and have one or two of the girlfriends around and I wanted a buddy to enjoy ourselves and maybe watch a movie or something. But that's basically what life will be like. And then on weekends we would work three weeks of the month and then every fourth week we go away for an adventure. Okay, like a climb, Mount Kilimanjaro, that's the plan. Like hunting in Siberia or so no way.

Rob Lipsett: 58:15

Yeah, I love that word adventure, so British. Yeah, we're going on an adventure. And it's a thornberry. We're going on an adventure. I love adventure.

Jack Hopkins: 58:26

Yeah, there's nothing I love more than a fucking adventure. To put the phones away, yeah, but everything away to just run around in the jungle and get into an adventure.

Rob Lipsett: 58:35

Yeah, and so is Marbella. Bit of an adventure for you. How long are you gonna stay for?

Jack Hopkins: 58:38

it. I haven't got an outbound flight. I've been here the next couple of days, I think, and then I head back, I see my grandma for a birthday and then fly back to Thailand.

Rob Lipsett: 58:46

Yeah, and so, right before we go, I want to wrap things up with the Ibiza story. Tell us, tell us the story. This is fresh, this is a fresh one.

Jack Hopkins: 58:55

Yeah, so we. For my friend, my friend Dario, it is his 29th birthday and he wanted us all to go to Ibiza. He loves the clubs, he loves DJing. I never met somebody that likes to just be in the club and listen to music so much he genuinely enjoys it. For me I like it's fun and that, but for me it's more fun for getting girls and that. Yeah, I'm not too fussed by the DJs, but he loves the music. So we all went for his birthday, nine of us, and we got this sick villa, this Castle, and we were over the moon. We got off this flight. We've run a flight with Ricky Hatton. You know the box.

Rob Lipsett: 59:29

Oh yeah, no way. Yeah.

Jack Hopkins: 59:34

The flight was nuts. Everyone was just doing their thing like getting absolutely steam in on the flight. Everyone's standing up, there's music going. Couple of fights nearly broke out in a plane right now. I'm a great guy in the front. It was awesome and so we're on our way. We touched down everyone's buzz. We get in a cab, take us to a nearby supermarket with champagne, moe's and volkers and stuff like that, and we're dressed pretty well. Me and Daria both have LV bags and got Ramona suitcases and things. So we looked fairly flash and we got to the villa, absolutely blew our minds. We're running around. It was just like a bunch of little boys, just yeah.

Rob Lipsett: 1:00:14

Oh my god, he's gonna be the best.

Jack Hopkins: 1:00:17

Yeah, you always have syndrome and we've got. We found this Table football and we pulled it out of the garage. We put it in the front of the house. We were playing table football, having a few drinks. We're like all right, let's go to a club I went to, the best club in my opinion, that's really really like. Yeah, so when they're having a great night, pull a couple of Latinas yeah, you know what?

Rob Lipsett: 1:00:39

in your video you said Latino, as I was like it between them and the French twins.

Jack Hopkins: 1:00:48

I'm still a bit faded when I've made that video come back off the trip. But Latinas we went back with a couple of Latinas and got to the house and Just popped the champagne, having a great time. My friend Matt went up to his room, came back down. It's like Jack, there's a thousand euros missing from my, from my, my, my draw. And I was like that's a weird man. It's like any of the girls have been upstairs and I was like no, they haven't been. And he was pretty sure in his head Like the girls had been upstairs. Yeah all his stuff at this point. Yeah, so we weren't freaking out too much for probably just asking him Get it back. Yeah, so I went. I didn't think much of it actually. I was not really thinking straight and had a few glasses of champagne, went upstairs with my girl and got into my room and both the double doors are open. I had the biggest room there, on the balcony. Both the doors are wide open, and I still got into bed with this girl.

Rob Lipsett: 1:01:39

You're like priorities.

Jack Hopkins: 1:01:40

Yeah.

Rob Lipsett: 1:01:40

Yeah, they blow. No, yeah, it was a draft in here totally locked and then blown open.

Jack Hopkins: 1:01:49

And then I looked at the wardrobe. Both wardrobes are open and I'd hidden my. I always hide my stuff. I'm fairly Paranoid about your properties and shit anyway. So I'd hidden all my stuff in the wardrobe behind blankets and things, and I noticed both wardrobes were open and just ripped apart. The whole room was ripped apart and I noticed just everything was gone, like my Louis V bag. I had six grand in cash. My clothes, all my designer clothes, oh man they took the clothes and shoes, gucci shoes, all my stuff, my fucking toothbrush.

Rob Lipsett: 1:02:18

They took that was a good electric to fucking sick joke.

Jack Hopkins: 1:02:21

No, it was a fucking normal to plastic one and I'd already taken it out of my bag, my wash bag, and I'd put it on the side in in in the bathroom and they took it that is that is, though that's probably just like a paramoo from them there.

Rob Lipsett: 1:02:33

I fucking hate this guy.

Jack Hopkins: 1:02:34

I'm gonna take his to fucking can't have brushes.

Rob Lipsett: 1:02:37

Yeah, yeah, it's a lot of fun.

Jack Hopkins: 1:02:39

I don't give a fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they took all that. I Stop. I started going crazy. At this point I was like, oh fuck, this is. This is not good at all, because I had all my laptops for running my business, my iPads, my Documents for my Dubai business, my Emirates ID, all my bank banking cards, everything. So I was freaking out at this point and we basically read the book. The other boys got back from the club. Ever. Everyone checked their rooms, everyone's stuff.

Rob Lipsett: 1:03:13

Oh, my god, okay.

Jack Hopkins: 1:03:14

So everyone's clothes, everyone's cash, everything is gone. And then we checked outside and, by some stroke of luck, they'd thrown my passport and my hard drive of all my videos on and my documents for my business into buy and all my bank cards they just threw. Wow, just chucked them. Same with everyone else, it's like passports.

Rob Lipsett: 1:03:32

Yeah, out of the car.

Jack Hopkins: 1:03:34

The bags and they chucked them. Yeah, just out on the side of the street.

Rob Lipsett: 1:03:37

Well, do you know what? Actually that's crazy that you mentioned that I was in Miami once and I was with Mike Thurston and Max tuning and we're staying in an Airbnb and our place got broken into, okay, and passports were taken and I had a flight, the in a few hours more or less, is that like 10 at night. When we got home, I had a flight the next morning and like we're like, oh my god, you know, I was like take anything but the passport, yeah. And then the following day, like at about you know midday, some like bang or a car, like you know some hood car comes up, chucks my passport at the front door, drives off. So like they're, like they have a moment of guilt, yeah, sir, they're like I don't need this guy to stop. I was like, hey, you know, do you want to throw the phone and wallet? But they just chucked it back like that. The front yard was like a house and I was like it's so weird. I'm like maybe you could have sold that Actually mine was mine.

Jack Hopkins: 1:04:35

My bank cards are out on the drive, thrown out of the car, that's, my documents were up. So we found one of my friends. There was an upstairs room that would. None of us really went in. We went in there. We found my friend's whole suitcase. They didn't like his clothes so they left all his stuff Because he didn't have any designers in there. Yeah, and then and then we found his suitcase and in there we found they'd left my documents and my hard drive, which is good, yeah, so that was all right. And then we went nuts. We just feel like we've got a drone or sorrows, yeah, that's. We went to the police. We obviously did all of that. We tried to track the air tags, went to a few locations, scouted out apartment buildings but we thought it was a safe house, yeah, and we couldn't. We questioned a few people, it's nothing we could really do and then we just partied. We just had a fantastic time for days. We've no clothes or toothbrushes. Nice, nice, it's completely dirty or will be generous and lovely.

Rob Lipsett: 1:05:30

That's what you got to do. I liked your mindset afterwards. That's what I want to touch on and wrap up on. What was your mindset afterwards?

Jack Hopkins: 1:05:38

at the end of the day, it's only stuff and you can very quickly become your things. As you make your way up in the world and start earning more money, you start to place your value on the things that you own and when you get it all taken away, you realise that you're still left with everything that you've achieved and done. So I still felt good. I still felt like I didn't know my clothes. I'm like it doesn't make a difference. Yeah, I still have no problem with girls. I was not wearing good clothes, like it was no issue because I still have the innate thing inside of me like I can get it all back. It's not a big issue. It's about who you become, not what you acquire along the way, and that's a beautiful thing, because no one can take that. That's very nice.

Rob Lipsett: 1:06:12

And so tell me what is the game plan for the second half of the year?

Jack Hopkins: 1:06:17

the second half of the year content Mania goes crazy on the content. I want to do a lot more vlog lifestyle content. Do yeah Bangkok. Show people the lifestyle, get into that and Go yeah, go crazy on the videos. Build out our business, continue bringing on members for the new elite and 10k accelerator, keep changing people's lives and Probably do another event before the year is out. Nice event we just did was amazing.

Rob Lipsett: 1:06:41

Oh man, I just did one more day and so far it's the best day I had this year. Yeah, it's the best day. I had it in summer. Really honestly what? While? Very, not only like a proud feeling, but you know it's a party and everyone networks and everything. It's like you're kind of, you're combining work and pleasure.

Jack Hopkins: 1:06:57

You are, you really are, and they're amazing. Things like networking. I've done a lot of them myself for other groups like it, been to them and they are amazing. Yeah, they're great. You make one connection.

Rob Lipsett: 1:07:05

You make your money.

Jack Hopkins: 1:07:06

Oh they, they pay for themselves 10 times over.

Rob Lipsett: 1:07:10

That's such a good way to put it: make one connection, make money.

Jack Hopkins: 1:07:12

Yeah, one connection, I've made one connection Events before and it's paid double, triple the event. Just that one connection, yeah let alone what I learned at the event and all the other things. Man, I wish I was crazy.

Rob Lipsett: 1:07:21

I wish I had that quote, when I was marketing the. Use it for your next.

Jack Hopkins: 1:07:28

Tell the people where they can find you. You can find me the CEO of testosterone on YouTube or jack hop fitness on Instagram and my two main places to find me. Go check me out If you want any of my stuff, so linked under the videos boom. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast today and great to have you here in Marbella.

Rob Lipsett: 1:07:43

Thank you for having me, good man.

Jack Hopkins: 1:07:45

Thank you for having me as a good man.