The Basics of Buck Sweep

This podcast episode from "Coaching 101" features hosts Daniel Chamberlain and Kenny Simpson discussing the impact of free agency in football, strategies for high school football coaching, and the nuances of implementing effective offense through plays like the Buck Sweep. They dive into allocation of resources in a team, the importance of a strong quarterback and offensive line, and address defensive strategies to counter specific offensive plays. Kenny shares insights from his experience on offense dynamics, the flexibility of gap scheme plays, and the significance of specialization and adaptation in coaching. The episode also includes discussions on fundraising, coaching resources like the Gun-T package, and the importance of simplifying complex strategies for player and team success.

00:00 Welcome to the Coaching One on One Podcast

00:17 Diving Into Free Agency Moves and Strategies

01:03 Allocating Budgets in High School Football: A Strategic Discussion

01:51 The Importance of Quarterbacks and Offensive Lines in Winning Championships

04:32 Evaluating Defensive Strategies and the Evolution of Football Tactics

07:28 Simplifying Football: The Power of Fundamentals Over Complex Schemes

09:19 Introducing the Coach's Cap: A Game-Changer for Coaches

12:58 Breaking Down the Buck Sweep: Techniques and Variations

23:10 Navigating Team Challenges and Strategy Adjustments

23:45 The Intricacies of Running the Buck Sweep

24:47 Adapting to Defensive Fronts and Formations

30:00 Evolving Offensive Strategies Year to Year

32:43 Integrating Buck Sweep into Various Offensive Schemes

34:03 Philosophy of Specialization in Coaching

40:48 Leveraging Resources and Networking for Coaching Success

45:53 Final Thoughts and Encouragement for Coaches

What is the Buck Sweep?

• Buck sweep vs Pin and Pull vs 
• PS Gap Down Backer
• PS G Pull Kick
• BS G Pull Wrap
• BS T Gap Hinge

Why Buck Sweep over other gap scheme plays?

• The TE/W surface lends to
• Buck sweep gave an anchor in the run game
• Blocking needs less movement, more of a cutoff block

What is the hardest look to run it on?

• Odd “under” front
  • Put DLmen in the gaps that the G’s are leaving when they pull
• Great athlete at DE and spill (wrong arm)

What NOT to do as a Coach

• Today’s Lesson: “Be great at something - and good at other stuff”

Social Media

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• Kenny
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Transcript

0:04

What's up coaches. This is the coaching one on one podcast. I'm Daniel Chamberlain here with Kenny Simpson coach free agency has been in an uproar today. Uh, big moves everywhere. You look. I was, uh, I was pretty surprised the Derek Henry move. I didn't think he'd go Titans, but I didn't see him going up there in the Northeast. Um, I you were talking about your dolphins. Oh yeah, no, free agency is crazy. You know, and I've been around long enough now. I mean, good for those kids to get their money. You know, usually as a fan, you hate to see so and so go and you claim loyalty, but let's be honest, you know, somebody is going to offer you an extra 3 million to go move to another town. To do the same job, you're going to take that. So good for those guys to go make their money. And as a Dolphin fan, not a good year for us. You know, we lost two pretty good ones, but I think they did a good job of kind of bargain shopping. You know, my question to you is this, Daniel. So if you were a high school GM and you're in free agency, how are you allocating You know, at your budgets, they all got budgets. So are you doing what a lot of the Dolphins did this a couple years ago, where you're going to spend big money on some big stars and try to try to kind of basement shop on other spots? Are you loading your money into one position? You know, like Miami did that at DB, you know, so there's different thoughts on how you do it. I, you know, I kind of love these when they hit social media and it's the little five by five grid, right? And it's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And then you got to have one in everything and you get 20 or whatever. So you can't go all the way across the top. Those are always so fun because. It's always the top five people in the league. And it's like, there's really not that big of a difference in any of these names. Um, man, I, I honestly think that quarterback is a must have if you look at all the teams who have done it, except for, um, was it Bennett Stetson? Is that his name down at Georgia? The last couple of years, Stetson Bennett, that's it. I had it backwards of him. I don't know of a championship football team in any level that hasn't had a pretty outstanding quarterback. So I think that's one of those, you've got to go out and set the table there. And I don't know, I mean, it was an O line guy. I think that's the next step. You know, you just got to really beef up the line. And then I think with the right people there, you can make any. Athlete look good. Um, it seems like, I mean, look at like, I'm a Dallas Cowboys fan, right? We had Ezekiel Elliott who was supposed to be the, the next coming of running back Jesus Christ, and then all of a sudden Tony Pollard out of nowhere is outperforming him week in and week out. And. You know, we're going to see now Tony's leaving. Uh, Zeke went last year to the Patriots and didn't have a great year. So it, you get out from behind that bulldozer of an O line and Dallas, and you kind of see some of those average athletes might look a little more average again, so we'll see. I think that's, that's, that's my answer. I'm sure other people out there do different. It was funny as I've always been a defensive guy, but I would spend the money on offense because. Yeah, I think quarterback is, I think, a no brainer. Probably most people would agree with you. I don't think there's a guy that would say. We're going to go cheap at quarterback. I think that would be, if you have the option, it's where you put your money. I would probably say my next spot would be DB, even at the high school level. The best years I've coached are DBs have been near the top of the conference. Like it's just kind of, you can kind of offset some other things. Maybe of course we would all love to have a good O line. We'd love to have a good D line. And you can say that football's worn in the trenches, and I think that that is somewhat true. But I do think those skill kids kind of make it go. You know, if you have skill kids in different spots, and you can coach up real well your fronts, you might be able to overshadow. But my next one would be O line. Like, I would, I would think you'd go quarterback, DB. O line in today's game. That's kind of where I think if I was allocating money, I'd go there, try to find some just athletic kind of linebackers you can develop, maybe some smaller D linemen they could get after a little bit. And then on the offensive side of the ball, I think that you could, a good old line, a good quarterback, you can take average kids that will work hard that run them back and tidy in and wherever else. So, that would be my thoughts. Of course, I run a different kind of offense. If you're a Well, you know, I mean the type of offense matters, but the schemes nowadays are so non negative plays, right? Like a lot of people are still running outside zone, but you know, in my area, a lot of people have kind of abandoned outside zone because it's just asking kids that aren't very good to do too much. Uh, you can hit inside zone real fast. You can hit duo, buck sweep. Like these are plays that I think we've, we've, we've taken this non negative mentality instead of trying to break everything, let's just go get three to four yards of play, which is really an, probably an antiquated way to look at football because what is the flex bone do? What did wing T do right for years? That's exactly what they were like 3. 3 in a cloud of dust. I feel like we've gotten back there. With an explosive passing game to carry us, you know, try to get that big play. Well, that's what, I mean, that's efficient offense is, you know, the spread came around, it was all big play, big play, big play, big play. And then, because it was a defensive coordinator, the answer in the early, you know, early 2000s, even into 2010 range was, let them throw the short stuff, they're going to screw up. They're going to screw up, they're going to screw up, but now they get to the point where that, they don't screw up. So now the game has flipped for the defensive guys, to we've got to create negative. So now as an offensive guy, you've got to answer that. They're sending more pressure, they're trying to do more different stuff to kind of create a negative play. So we have to guard against that because we don't want to be in third and 12th. Or second and 11th. You know, those are spots we don't really want to be in. Uh, because we want, you know, we want to be kind of consistently moving the ball. So I think everything is cyclical. You know, I was thinking a couple of years it may flip somewhere else. Yeah. I went for that, you know, the big, uh, you know, five fronts and six front defense to really make a comeback, but we'll see, man. Um, right now it's, there's some 5 1 stuff I'm seeing. You know, what we run, we see some 5 1, 6 1. I'm trying to kind of get us behind the sticks. Yeah, I mean, it's no, no surprise because you guys are changing the game so much on offense. It's, I feel like you introduced a whole formation. You're, you're tied in wing away from trips is that we see it everywhere now at every level. And I realized you didn't invent the formation, but man, you sure made it. I think you pointed out to some people that it's hard to defend and then you gave them some ways to be successful with it and, and the defense is going to have to catch up. So I just love going to your clinics and watching you tear apart like all the common defenses because it just makes me like. As a former dc like I I want to be able to stop that stuff too and it is pretty difficult But and we're going to talk about that tonight, but I think that's kind of a, I think that's where the offense is trying to get. What do you have that's unique that forces a defense to do something they're uncomfortable with? And the same thing on defense. Flip it over. What do we have defensively that's unique? Because if I see a stagnant 3 4 or 4 3 or a traditional look. Offensively, you're going to carve that up. So you're forcing people to become creative as they become creative. You got to match it. So it's really cool to see the evolution of all that. so I ask one question then we'll get it's not we're talking a little uh, you know Buck sweet bikinis bread and butter play and we're gonna let him tell us all about it. Uh, my question is Um, I heard this spring and it might have even been at afca. I can't remember but someone said, you know Offensive coaches may have planted the seed to defensive guys to, Oh, keep it simple, right? Don't, don't add any wrinkles. Don't do anything new or fresh or, or because your kids need to play fast and just be really, really simple. And now offenses are taking advantage of how some, some like simplistic defenses have gotten. So do you think that's true? Do you think an offensive coordinator might've planted that seed and then walked away and waited for the world to burn on defense? I mean, I think it's possible, but you've got those guys on defense that I've seen. You see it at every level. Like the really good defenses are good at the fundamentals, whether they're multiple or not multiple, they're good at that. And so their time investment on that is above scheme. I think that. Fundamental football always resonate above scheme at anything you do. That being said, if you can do both, that's a pretty tough defense. If you can be really good fundamentally, and be able to show multiple looks, those are the tougher defenses to solve. Awesome. Well, before we jump in the buck sweep coach, why don't you, uh, tell some way to be simple for our staff and our players, since we're talking about simplicity. I'll probably bring a coach's cap too, I don't have one in here with me, and then the head coach academy, I don't know if I've got those on there or not. Okay. Yeah. Well, do you need to grab a cap real quick? No, I think it'll be, I can describe it. I mean, I would imagine most people who are doing this are listening. We'll talk Ace and Welchman real quick. Awesome. Appreciate that coach I know that some of you guys have noticed we have some new ads coming on and and if you want the chance to use Coaching 101 podcast to advertise whatever it is. You're trying to sell a new book If you're you know, you have a system or or whatever. I mean, I you know, I do the athletic speed movement That's kind of my side hustle with Joe Daniel, you know, we're doing that to sell speed Kenny's going to talk to you in just a minute about his coach's cap that he's uh, became an inventor and selling. So if you're looking to reach out guys, uh, just shoot me an email at chamberlainfootballconsultingatgmail. com. And we'd love to put your, your product on the podcast. Um, the, the guys that have already, you know, got us started, you can hear them there that a sports look every time, even when I go for an interview as a coach, right, I'm, I'm. Always looking to for the come up, right? I need to find my next big gig. Um, I guess that kind of sounds crappy. It's not true. I just, uh, have this year needed to get a little closer to home, but I'm telling these coaches I'm interviewing about a sports and it's, it's not for any reason, except for it's, that's an amazing way to fundraise for your school and you kind of don't have to do all the work, right? You quit selling the little gimmicky stuff. You're not putting a bunch of junk in your parents houses. Now that you could quit fundraising off your player's parents. Like this is, this is big time stuff, right? Go out and hit the big businesses that want the tax break. Anyway, they need to use that advertisement money and let them give it to you as a school. And I think you get an awesome video board. Kenny, yours is amazing. You know, I really liked seeing y'all's I've seen, I know they did Bixby's over here, which at one point was like the biggest in the nation. Um, I've seen a few different versions of that, but if you're, if you're worried about fundraising and it doesn't matter, school level, I talked with Mark over at the national clinic for Gunty and he was like, Dude, we put it in at the smallest school in Arkansas and they still were able to get the money raised. Like it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what size you are. Somebody in your area wants to advertise for you. So, um, reach out to them. And of course, Welchman over at pro com, any headset needs, you know, give those guys a call and his, his email and everything's in that ad. Uh, the coach's cap thing's still going, right? Selling like hotcakes. Yeah, it's been pretty cool, you know, so if you're, uh, because now guys are getting spring football, so I'm starting to get more. order. So basically it's a, it's a boonie cap. Um, the patent that I came up with is that the whistle attaches to the hat. And so you, you know, you don't walk outside and forget your hat and your whistle. Now you just grab one thing. I didn't like, I'd forget it. Or I didn't like 17 strings around my neck when you're trying to coach. So kind of all in one hat, the cap. Plus Fox 40 whistle. And so it's been pretty neat. We've ordered 2000 on the first end of it, and we're well through most of those. So it's going pretty quick. And, uh, I'm a big advocate for, I've had a lot of my face cut up, so I'm a huge advocate for sun care, so that kind of fit in that world of, you don't have to buy my hat guys, go buy a different hat, but you need to take care of your body. Cause I'm having, I'm paying the price of not doing that when I was younger. I weirdly enough, I remember kind of laughing at my first head coach because he always went out in long sleeves under a short sleeve and I was like, dude, you gotta be burning up, which, you know, I spent a good fair part of my life in the desert, so I'm good with the heat. So I just want to shuck all my sleeves, but now. I'm like, all right, I, I do need to wear those long sleeves. Right. And it was your Twitter post that, you know, having to go have that stuff cut out of your face, scared, scared me to death. So take care of your, your body guys. It's the only one you'll ever get, um, get, get your coach's cap. And like you said, yeah, I'm with you, man. If you got to put the one string on the back and then your whistles on the front, it's just weird, right? So, uh, get your coach's cap. Sweet. We've talked ads for a while now. Um, we'll just jump into the old buck sweep. Uh, so Kenny, we're just going to start with the basics here. Number one is just what is the buck sweet? Yeah, so there's there's a lot of flavors of Bucksweep. So I'm going to give you kind of the traditional and then some of the nuances that people are running. So if you see, a lot of people will see, hey, two guys pulled or a couple of guys pulled and they ran outside. That's Bucksweep and that's. Technically not BuckSweep. I'm not going to get into that whole debate, but basically BuckSweep is a little more rigid play, what a lot of people are running now is more of a pin and pull, like it's outside zone, which are pin and pulling. Both are great plays. I'm not here to advocate for one over the other. We actually run both, so they're both good plays. Um, and BuckSweep is very similar to that. So the, the essence of running. Uh, the sweep or buck sweep would be that you would block gap down backer on the play side. So whether that's a wing and a tackle, or if you're like us and you have a tight end and a wing and a tackle, because it came from the wing tee world. So it's run best if you have a tight end and an H back or wing, both on that side. Uh, Gus Malzahn came around. You know, 15 years ago, I made it okay to run it with no tight end, run it with just an H back. And so, and people are still running at that direction. And so, and then I've seen teams run it with just an inline tight end, uh, but it was originally designed. To have a tackle, tight end, and wing, a three man surface over there, all block the first thing inside. And that's what gap down backer means. Block the first thing in your gap, or down, which means head up, the next guy over. If there's nothing there, then you work on to the next level, the inside linebacker. So, that's the play side blocking. You can run out of a lot of looks. You could run out of like a bunch trips look. You could run out of an unbalanced look. But essentially anybody on the play side that's involved in the blocking scheme is going to block gap down back. Or they're going to block the first, kind of like a wall. Or if you think of like a hinge on a door. You know, you want it all to kind of move in one direction. Nobody turns. Nobody's reaching. We're all just first thing down. Playside guard on buck sweep will pull and he'll kick the first thing that shows up. So he's pulling to the right, he's going to use his right shoulder. We say pull right, hit right. But basically I'm going to pull and use my outside shoulder and I'm going to kick out whatever that is that shows up. So if you're running it from a traditional set, that's probably going to be an outside linebacker or a safety. If you're running it from a condensed type set, that could be a defensive end. It doesn't really matter. The first thing outside of the wing. is going to get kicked out. Our center's rules are on backside. So if you're running under center, it was a little bit different. You may just have him block to the play side. If you're in the shotgun, which a lot of people are moving towards, we tell him he's going to block pretty much whatever defenders in the A gap. That keeps it pretty simple for him. He's got whatever a gap defender might show up. Our backside guard is going to be the key to the play. So he's going to pull and wrap, he's going to go outside of the wing and inside of the kick. You know, all we're trying to do is create, we tell the clinics, we're trying to create a horizontal space. We're trying to create a gap to get a player through. And so our guard is looking for the first daylight outside of the wing. So if the wing has done his job and you have a little bit of a wall. He's going to kind of ride the wall or ride the wave as tight as he can. He wants to make sure his eyes stay inside. You know, he's going to be responsible. There's a good chance that he's going to block the play side linebacker. And there's a good chance that that linebacker is good. That collision is going to happen near the line of scrimmage. So as he pulls and he wraps, that collision is coming. Our backside tackle for us, and this is where we're not going to get into RPOs tonight, but if you were going to run RPOs, this is kind of where you can play around with that. But the base way we run buck sweep, he would be protecting the gap that the guard left from. So he's going to step hard to the center. If nothing shows up, he hinges and takes the defensive end. If something were to show up, then that's what he's got. So, we're trying to essentially, with both tackles, we're trying to close down the gaps of where our pullers are leaving, and then our pullers run pull kick pull wrap. Then, of course, if you've watched me, you can run a lot of other RPO stuff, just like you could run off outside zone. So all those RPOs you see off of outside zone or inside zone that you see everywhere, they work even better, in my opinion. Cause you're pulling guards. And so you have the ability there to be as creative as you want to be. Um, our back, we teach to get the hand off and he wants to get as close to the guard as he can get his hand on that lead guard, um, just because following the guard, we want to make sure we're going through it because it sounds like sweep. Means you would go outside, but the reality is bug sweep run correctly You're gonna stick your foot in the ground and hit it probably in the C gap Now real quickly transition over and we'll get to the next question If you want to run pin and pull is a little bit different like that one We would we would teach that we're gonna reach So we're gonna reach block with our tight end wing or tight end or whatever you've got over there. We're gonna reach block We're going to block gap down pull with all our other linemen. So that you have nobody in your gap to block down on. You become part of the pull and nobody's kicking. So that's the biggest difference in buck sweep and pin and pull is on buck there's a pull kick. We're on pin and pull, we're reaching that defender and then our pullers are working to second level. So that's the biggest difference. Both are really good plays, um, but that's the biggest difference between them. Yeah, I've seen, um, I think even some of the times that you've drawn up pin and pull, you know, I'm, like rules that don't change. And so. In my world and I've never had to install it, so I can't, I can't vouch for that. But even my center would be gap down pool, right? If he doesn't have somebody weak, shaded, shaded, weak, um, then he's going to pull. But I understand that in, in most people's world, your center is not a puller, right? He, you want him to get a snap, latch onto whatever's in his area and just, and, and set an anchor, right? So at least the offense has an anchor point. So, um. I've seen, it seems like more and more people are pin pulling, just pulling guards, right? Because we get so much of this odd front stuff. It seems like that's the guys that have the freedom to move. Um, so I, I didn't know to be honest, but I didn't even know the difference in pinpull and buck sweep with you talking about reaching versus kick and go underneath. So that's, that's a beautiful thing to know. Um, I have seen people talking about outside zone versus the pinpull blocking and how are you blocking, you know, which is, it's great. I mean, whatever one works for Well, if you. watch like the NFL, nobody's really running bucks sweep. They're all running outside zone pin pull. You know, even you watch the dolphins, they kind of made a living on it this year. It was basically, we're going to block down on the edge and anybody who's not on that edge, if you're able, you're pulling and you're out there in space and then depending on how good you get in that. You can even leave defense alignment unblocked. Like there's backside guys, you might not even account for them because they're not going to make the play. Um, we've not got into that, but Awesome. Um, Second part here is why, why buck sweep over all the other gap scheme plays? We've got power counter, which it seems like, you know, if you wanted to, you could say counter and buck sweep are very, very similar, right? You got to kick, you got to wrap, you're just pulling different guys. Um, so what makes, what makes you want buck sweep over all those other gap scheme plays? Man, I think for us, it's mainly because we have that tight end wing. And so it's become kind of our outside run. I think if you're going to run a tight end set, so like if you are, you know, you're going to run an offense and we know we're going to have a tight end involved, then I think BuckSweep. is going to be a play that you're going to want to at least consider, if not pin and pull, because you're going to have, you need to get the ability to get out on the edge or to hit C gap, hit right off, off that tight end. And so to me, it was a huge play for that. And then it also was to fit our personnel. So there are years where Bucksweep is my favorite play, but it doesn't mean that it's our best play. Like there was years where our version of belly, which is more like a power, like you were, you're talking about that's become our best play. Probably of the last five, six years, that's probably been our best play at least one or two years, or that's become our best play. However, Buck for us is kind of where we start. Just because Buck, I think, is a more expensive play to put in. And, I think you can run Buck without having great linemen. Like, and I don't mean to be ugly, but I don't know if you can run power or counter if you don't have enough lead in your pencil to get movement. Like, those plays require a little bit of knocking guys upfield. And kind of getting movement, maybe even double teams, uh, or I know for power, for sure, there's double teams involved. Buck suite is a whole lot and pin and pull the same are a whole lot more positional blocking where we may not have to knock a guy backwards. If you watch the dolphins, they're asking Jalen Waddle to block defensive ends. So that block can't be a knock a guy backwards as a much more positional. Type block, which that gives your kids an opportunity that, Hey, even if we get penetration, this play can still be successful. And so that's why I think pin and pull, buck sweep are becoming more popular is even against outmanned offensive linemen. If taught correctly, you know, they can kind of use body positioning instead of just blowing guys off the ball. So that's kind of why we start there because most years at our school. And it may change, you know, who knows, but right now I don't foresee it changing. We're not going to, we're going to be one of the smaller teams on the conference as far as size. And then last year we were the smallest team in a conference. This year we might be the, you know, we're, we're moving to a different conference with different players this year. So we might be maybe the second or third smallest team in the conference, but either way, it's going to be hard for us to just line up and run power at people if we don't have a good line. I think it's really hard to run inside zone or outside zone if you don't have a good line and a good running back. I think you can get away with buck sweep as long as you have linemen that understand how to block and they have a little bit of athletic ability, especially your guards, to kind of get out of So, to me, I think it's a play that will stand, for us, the test of time. Good line, we can be really good at buck sweep. Not great line, we can be okay at it. Or I think if you hung your hat on power, inside zone, counter, when you have a bad O line, those plays are going to be really tough to be successful at. So that's kind of why we start there, and then of course we build other plays in our offense also. Yeah, your, your RPO game and then your belly and, and, you know, kind of those are your, for lack of better term, your counters to when people can shut down your buck, right? Now you make them pay on the backside or, you know, you hit quick belly and they were trying to load up to your tight end wing and then you're just off to the races. So kind of talking about that, you know, we'll jump to our last question here. And I don't want to blitz through this whole, this whole episode. I know we could get through it way too fast, but so kind of, what are the hard looks to run on? Um, I know a lot of people around here getting, you know, those four eye tight, odd front. Um, so what, what fronts kind of give it troubles? And then, I mean, if, even if you have answers to those that you want to Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think that every front presents something different, you know, but I think basically if you were playing a team that they're heavy in buck sweep, and that's what your number one goal is, we got to stop this, then the most typical front people kind of go to is what's called an under front. Or if you're a three front guy, basically you're sliding your front of gap over. So an under front in my opinion, and here's how we would kind of define it. And again, it depends on, is this team running buck sweep with a tight end and a wing, or are they just a wing or are they just a tight end? But essentially what you want to do is try to get Defensive players stunting into the gaps they're pulling from. So which would mean your nose would want to shade to the strong side, make that block difficult for the center, or make the tackle have to come all the way down on him and kind of require a double team. So those are the two options the offense would have if you have a good nose, is the center's either going to have to figure out how to handle it by himself, and that can be tough, or they're going to require the tackle to block all the way down and basically draw a double team, which makes it hard to block your your linebackers. And then on the back side, you want to stunt your defensive end through the heel of that pulling guard. So that guard leaves and pulls. We want to try to cross the face of the tackle and go ahead and squeeze that gap down with us. Now, obviously, if you're an offense, you've got to build an answer for that, but that's two really tough looks. The other one is to put a really good athlete or really good player to the tight end wing side and what we call spill it. Which just means when he recognizes a down block to go as close down the line of scrimmage as possible. And force the running back to bounce. Because the play is not designed to get outside. The play is designed to hit inside. So if you can blow up the kick out block, there's nowhere to go. And now that player has to bounce to unaccounted for. Defensive backs, which is why a lot of teams that are running buck sweep also will adopt pin and pull because Now I can give the same look we are trying to get on to the edge And so it's it's a way to kind of answer that so there's always answers but I would think a traditional look that you see is that under front where you're Hammering the tight end wing and you're stunning into those gaps. Um, and then another front that we see, or that people like to try to run a lot is they'll try to stunt when they see the pull, they'll try to send a linebacker. Backside a gap or send the backside linebacker through Play side a gap. If he sees both pool, we want you to stunt through the A gap. So if we do blow it up, you know you're right there to hit it. So you'll see that look a lot if you decide, Hey, we wanna run Buck Sweep, and you're just learning how to do it, you're gonna see teams blitz those gaps until you show you have answers for that. And so a lot of different things you can do on that. You can try to RPO it. You can squeeze your gaps, like basically shrink your splits to kind of answer that. Um, and then, so there's a lot of different kind of cat and mouse games there. But as far as the traditional fronts, I think an under front or a linebacker who's triggering really quickly. Uh, those are the two biggest things I think you have a hard time with, or depending on what formation you get in. Almost any offense is not going to account for a safety. So if you have a safety, he's able to recognize that block and he fits, he's going to be unblocked. So if he can make that tackle at three, four yards, two, three, four yards, you know, the offense is going to have a hard time accounting for him. So those are kind of your traditional tough looking fronts. And a lot of people that run a four front, it's easy to get into an under front. You just slide it to the quick side. If you're on a three front, you just slide it to the strong side. And now you're in that traditional looking, basically a five, two that's shaded to the strong side, and that's where a lot of teams get to. Yeah, I know it's still, well, we, we tried to run the gun tee and, and there was a lot of fronts that gave us problem, which I mean, to be fair, you know, I was one of the offensive linemen or offense line coach that that year, and I wasn't great at it yet. And so. You know, trying to teach those techniques, uh, it got pretty difficult. We saw a lot of that tight front and it just came down to an offensive tackle. Who should have handled a down block with just get beat. And now we have a defensive end running free, you know, or he's picking up your rap, rapping guard now linebackers running free. So we, we've kind of dealt with a lot of that same issue. Um, a lot of the year and, you know, Kenny, we were a lot like you, we didn't have every week, it seems like we were against the next best team that we've ever faced, you know, we, we were never going to be the team that physically was dominant. Um, and unfortunately we didn't have all the, the ins and outs like you do of how to get the play, you know, kind of off and running. So. Well, it's, it's, it's a cat and mouse game and, you know, year to year, you don't know, like this year, I have no idea what I'm walking into what, because you know, that we're sitting here talking about this, I do clinics about this, I would imagine that defensive guys get paid to, so they're probably doing the same thing about, Hey, here's what they're showing, what are our answers going to be? And then you have to kind of evolve it. You know, one year we went to, uh, the pin and pull. Yeah. That was about two years ago. That became a good answer for us. Then we started coming up with different RPOs that would attack different players that were issues. Then we got into heavy this year. We got heavy into formations. Like how can we formation these problems away? And so there's always an answer, but it may evolve and change year to year. Yeah. I meant Yeah. And then, I mean, eventually you got to play the good teams, right? Like, as long as you win enough of the not good games, um, I mean, you guys went, what were you? Elite eight. Is that what they call it this to submit the quarterfinals. Yeah. Yeah. So, so yeah, I mean, eventually you're going to play the teams that no matter what, they got the dudes and the coaches and they're there too, right? They, they've earned their spot as well. So that's awesome. Um, so kind of unrelated, but kind of really, where did Nuck If You Buck came from? Oh, okay. Well, I'm an old guy. So if you're old and you listen to rap back in like the nineties, I guess, Yeah, the, group out of Atlanta? Uh, golly, I can't remember their name now. Um, hold on. I'm on Google cause I don't want to mess it up here. Um, not like if you look, was Uh, crime Mob, Yeah, Prime Mob, which I, which I remember that when I was a kid, you know, I remember that song coming out or I might've been, I'm, I'm old, so I might've been not a kid, but I remember that song. And so I was, I put it on a shirt, you know, and it kind of made sense. Buck sweep, knuck means like, like you're going to fight, you know, so kind of a theme. And then I thought, well, you know what, I'll play this for my kids because. You know, they wanted to know too. I said, Oh guys, this is this rap song I used to listen to. And after about four lines, well, you need to find the edited version of this song. So, you know, the chorus part we've kind of adopted, but the rest of it, it could be a little bit sketchy, but the idea was simple. Like for us, the mindset was, we are going to run BuckSweep and we're going to make you do a lot of things you don't like to do to stop it. You know, and, and so that's kind of the nook, you know, like you're going to fight, uh, we're going to run this no matter what. And then if you decide to do other things to stop it, then we can kind of go to the rest of our offense. But that was kind of what we wanted our kids to get out of it. If, um, if I can't major in, in buck sweep, is it, does it, does it still lend itself to be a good, like, uh, you know, alternative run play, maybe I am a power counter guy. How do I fit it into that, that same it fits into power really well. I mean, if you're running power, because here's the, what are the problems you have on power? Well, that dude squeezes everything. So when you run buck, you just go ahead and block that guy down where he wants to go and run it a gap wider. You know, it's essentially like on power, you know, you're trying to kick out that five technique or whatever it might be on buck. You just kind of let your H back. allow him to crash down and block him down. And so it, it marries extremely well. The guys that run double wing, Buck is not a big play for them, but it is a play that they use. Um, I think that if you're a spread guy and you're listening to this, maybe pin and pull would be a better option. Like we're going to run power. And then we're going to run pin and pull. So now instead of blocking powers, you're going to reach and pull our guys wider. That'd be, I think, a quicker, cheaper answer for what they're looking for. But yeah, absolutely. I don't think you have to say bug sweeps are our number one end all be all I just, we run it because I think it's a good play for regardless of your lineman size, it gives you a chance. Well, you know, we're going to run out of questions here before we really run out of time. I think it's, you know, a lot of times you preach that, like, find your thing, be good at a thing. Um, I can remember some of the first episodes recorded that we recorded here. And you, you said, um, you know, when the game's on the line, the kids need to know what plays about to come in without you even calling it, they didn't know who's carrying the ball, which direction it's going, because. We know situationally, we've got to have this, that's our bread and butter. And I, I can appreciate as a guy who's still very young at this, I'm still very new and I'm still chasing, you know, everybody, it's, there's a silver bullet. I, I swear there is one, right? Whatever it is, uh, power counter, super counter RPOs, uh, the spread game, whatever, I, there's still silver bullet for me out there somewhere. And, and even though I know there isn't, I can really greatly appreciate when someone's like. We're going to make it right. We're going to create that silver bullet by taking this thing, getting really good at it and having all the answers. And there's prettier stuff, right? There's more, there's flashier plays inside zone duos, a new big one. You know, I'm, I'm a big fan of duo. Um, but you don't have to commit to any of those. Let the new guys keep screwing up by changing plays every year. Keep running what you're good at and, uh, add a, you know, a wrinkle here and there. So. Yeah, I mean, I think you hit the nail on the head. It does not have to be bug sweep. You know, but what are you going to run year in, year out that you're going to carry? Because I'm not a big fan, and I don't want to disagree with guys that might be listening to this because there are guys that win and do this. So take this for what it's worth. I'm not a big fan of guys that say we're going to run zone this year, we're going to run gap this year, we're going to run zone this year, we're going to run gap this year. I just don't, that's not my philosophy. There are a lot of guys that have done that and been successful. So don't, don't say, well, coach Simpson said, you know, do what you need to do. I just think you're going to be better off as a coach. If you become an expert at one of those two. Types of blocking and I'm not saying you can't have both of them in your offense, but we want to be really good at gap scheme like that's what we're going to do and we're going to find different flavors of gap scheme. We're going to continue to work that and if 1 year we want to play around with inside zone or duo as a secondary play. I think that's fine. I don't think you're good to say we're going to specialize in duo this year. And then next year, we're going to come back and do gap. And the next year we're going to come back and do this. We're going to come back and do that. I think it's just the same thing as a passing game. No guys that, you know, we're going to run mesh this year and this year we're going to run not mesh. We're going to run. You know, four wide or we're going to run a four verts, whatever it is. I think you need to kind of find what's your niche, what that is, and become really good at that and then expand off of that if you want to. And the statement I heard from a lot of guys, and it relates to money, but it also relates to coaching is the riches are in the niches, like if you can be really good at that niche thing, which for me is bucksweep is becoming more popular now, but that was kind of our niche. We're really good at that. And then defensively, you know, we're really good at these three or four things we do. We're really good at that every year. And then we can expand off of that. I just would be careful. And I think you kind of mentioned that. know we've kind of already covered the lesson for what not to do as a coach. Um, you want to expound on that any further? I didn't even see it down No, I didn't. I just saw some going here. No, I think the lesson for me as a coach is, and this is Daniel. I'm going to talk right to him here. There's not a silver bullet. Okay, be great at something, be great at whatever that is, and that can be different from my program to your program to Daniel's program, and nobody's wrong with whatever it is. You know, maybe what we're great at is bug sweep and RPOs, that's kind of what we're known for. We've kind of become pretty good at that, that's what we're known for. Daniel's, whenever he takes over a program, maybe his is going to be inside his own. That's fine. You know, you know, maybe ours is going to be, we're, we're a very big cover two match team, and maybe yours are going to be your cover one thing. You're not wrong in any of those things, but you are wrong. If you're not great at something, like if you're not great at one thing, you're wrong, and I think especially offensively, like we play a lot of teams that are multiple. Like, when we play as a defense, we play against a lot of teams that are multiple on offense. And very rarely are those teams the teams we worry about the most. The teams we worry about the most are really, really good at this thing, and then they have athletes and they have answers. Then we struggle. Like the team that, we lost two games this year. Both teams that beat us had dual threat quarterbacks. Both teams could run it and throw it. That's not what beat us, and those guys hurt us. What beat us was they were really, really good at one thing. One team was inside zone, they were just, they had giant linemen, they were really good at it. And We had to sell out to stopping that. So now that dual threat quarterback looked pretty good when he threw it. The other team we play was much more of a pin and pull team and they were a big quarterback run team. So we've got to commit all these guys into the box to stop that guy. Well, now he hit both of his division one receivers for touchdowns. And so that doesn't happen if they're not really good at something else and they make us kind of play that game. Because we played other teams that were just as athletic, but they didn't really have that thing. And so we could play our base. We didn't really have to respect, we could kind of dictate the game. Those two teams specifically, they kind of dictated the game to us. They forced us into things defensively we didn't really want to be in. And then they were able to take advantage of it. So when you flip that mindset, if you're coaching offense, that's what you want to be. We want to dictate the terms of what you have to do. Be patient enough that if you don't follow our terms, we're just going to run it under your throat or whatever you're going to do. Throw it, whatever your answer is. We're going to do this. And the minute you do get into our game, now we have these answers. And so I think that's kind of the goal. So the lesson for today is be great at one thing and then have all the answers off of that thing. And then once you've done that, now go ahead and play around with fun stuff you want to mess around with. You want to play around with whatever, play around with it, but do this stuff first, before you start getting into that Awesome. Um, last mention here, you know, if you, if you haven't already reach out to either, uh, Mark or Ryan over at a sports, that's the, the Arkansas and Oklahoma area reps. Um, if you, if you can't find their number, whatever, just reach out to me at my email and I'll, I'll get you hooked up with the guys. Um, super easy fundraising with those cats. A big one here tonight, though, we're gonna talk about procom welchman. com. So if you don't know, uh, Zach Welchman, super, super good coach. He's a football coach, just like you guys are most, most likely are. Um, head coach of his own program and, you know, he found a product that he really liked. Kenny uses the same product, um, you know, it's Procom headsets because of the quality they bring to the table and Zach decided he liked them so much that he would want to start selling them. So, you know, that's kind of a secondary thing he's taken on. So if you're, if you're needing headsets, needing anything, uh, reach out to Zach at Procom Welchman dot com. Um, and he can hook you up with. Whatever it is you need in headsets. Uh, and then, you know, I, I would be doing a disservice if I didn't talk about the gun T a little bit. I know Kenny doesn't like to sell the gun T on here too much, but he should. Um, guys, even if it's, even if you have a full system, this is something that a WASO this year, we just had a defense for the freshman team. We needed to test a little bit more. We need another look. And I installed like a couple gun T plays, just a few of the RPOs drawing them in the dirt. And just letting those younger cats, you know, throw the ball around a little bit. And man, they loved it. Even the quarterback who was, I think he's probably our third string guy or whatever, it was just like. This is so much fun. So, you know, that's it. We were a kind of a power counter inside, outside zone team, but you could just throw a buck in there and pull some linebackers out of the box and hit a slant right behind, you know, like it opens up their eyes. They have a lot of fun. So if you're looking for like an additional thing to put into your system, maybe you're a new coach and you just don't have an offensive system yet. I highly, highly recommend you run over to gun T, uh, FB coach Simpson. com. Get the gun T system, um, buy a book and just install the first book. Like book one of the offensive system, I think is a great place to start. new quarterback manual is out. So that took me about five months to get done. So I hope it's good because if it I asked for it last year. And, uh, who's your quarterback coach? I, I was like, Hey, I need, yeah, Brock, man. So I'm glad y'all got Now we finally got it. You know, we got that little reps deal that we've got where we have all the RPOs, I said, okay, we're, cause I've been getting like you, I've been getting hit up by a bunch of guys with coach, what about quarterback stuff? And so 165 pages and I had to edit it down to that, uh, worth of QB stuff. So I'm excited about that one coming out. My favorite part is the cover. So part of the book is choosing your quarterback and adapting to your quarterback, which I think that's kind of. What anyone should do, but we try to talk about how the gun T does that. So my wife found every quarterback we've had that has run the gun T offense in the last, you know, we've had her about eight years, so there's, there's, I think there's 12 different quarterbacks on there. And so I sent the picture to all those kids and said, Hey, look, you know, cause basically each kid's on there. Cause the, the purpose of the book is to show that this is a system that grows and evolves. You know, kind of with your kids and so seeing the pictures on there really just reiterates how different a lot of our kids looked and it's really cool to put 10, I think 10 or 11 different kids on the cover of a book. Well, that's wonderful. So, uh, yeah, man, jump over and pick that up. Head coaching Academy. Was that Yeah, Head Coach Academy is out, Offense Coordinator Academy is out, Defense Coordinators Academy is out. I think we've got ads for those, but the Head Coach, it's theheadcoachacademy. com. Uh, we're running a special I think for another month or so where it's. As cheap as it's going to be is guys, it's the most boring, most important course you'll take. I'm not going to sit here and say it's going to be thrilling to learn about how to organize your staff, but I will say it may save your job and it may help you get a job. So I think there's value in that academy, but it's not going to be cool, like scheme, fun stuff. It's going to be, how do you do a resume? How do you go through an interview? How do you handle your coaches? How do you organize your budget? The stuff that nobody wants to talk about, but we all need. That's what's in it. It's TheHeadCoachAcademy. com. It's like a real good resource. Not one of the fun Correct. Awesome. Social media. You can find me on Twitter slash X at coach Chambo. Okay. You can also email me for anything over at Chamberlain football consulting at gmail. com. I had somebody reach out today that just wanted me to proofread their book. They're putting out a That's cool. book about, you know, just helping. I would even have to go back and read the email. Essentially, it was, you know, what we're doing here, people helping other people in the industry. And I don't even know this football related, but I thought, man, that's really cool. So anything like that, guys, I like being involved. I like talking ball. So, uh, Chamberlain football, consulting at gmail. com. Find Kenny at FB coach Simpson on Twitter and X or email him FB coach Simpson at gmail. com. And of course, FB coach Simpson dot com and get the gun t package. Like I talked about, the podcast is at coaching one on one pod. We want to thank you for being a listener of the coaching one on one podcast. We'll hope you join us next week as we continue to make the complex more simple. Please consider subscribing to show. So you always know when the new episodes are out, we'll leave you with this. 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