Season 2 - EP #10 - Plant-based Anti-inflams, protect Sheezel, North lower than low and Higgins to get off

Season 2 - EP #10 - Plant-based Anti-inflams, protect Sheezel, North lower than low and Higgins to get off

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S2E10_1

[00:00:00] Wayne: I'm Wayne Cary and this is The Truth Hurts. Welcome to The Truth Hurts. Here we are for episode 10. Tony, good to be back and uh, well, good to see that you. I've actually, your attire's gone from check shirts with an umbrella, striped shirts and an umbrella. And now I've got no umbrella and a tee on. So you've finally conformed.

[00:00:25] Tony: Oh, well, to your way of dressing, yes, Dark, and welcome to you. Um, I've given the umbrella the flick, even though it's raining. And you've got a, 

[00:00:32] Wayne: why have you gone the, the, uh, crinkled up tee? 

[00:00:36] Tony: Well, just Country Road thought they'd, uh, donate one of their best blue numbers to me. But why, why are you all of a sudden dressing down now?

[00:00:44] Tony: Is the pressure got to you? No, well, no, the pressure has not got to me, but all of my shirts that were, uh, designed by my tailor up in Sydney, Shane at Rochford, they're getting washed. Oh, Shane. Is that a little plug for I could be, yes. 

[00:00:59] Wayne: Oh, you're [00:01:00] kidding me. But he, he designs my shirts. You're kidding. You've got a shirt designer, you get your shirt specifically made for you.

[00:01:07] Wayne: Correct. So clearly not designer shirts. 

[00:01:09] Tony: Oh, well, no, they're business shirts, which are made for me. From Thailand or? No, from Italy. We used to, oh, from 

[00:01:17] Wayne: Italy. You're kidding. That striped shirt you had on, actually, everyone should go back and have a look at the last episode, look at that striped shirt. Do you know how much that cost?

[00:01:27] Wayne: What? That shirt. How much? 340. Okay. It doesn't matter what it costs. It's what it looks like. And it looks fantastic. I'm glad you've, I'm glad you've gone the T because you look much more relaxed. Hopefully it comes out in your performance. 

[00:01:41] Tony: Now I'll tell you what. Thank you. Thank you, Wayne. What about, now I've joined the T shirt gang.

[00:01:46] Tony: Now I don't have the ability to get 100, 000 a year from Nike like you. 

[00:01:50] Wayne: Talking about. Talking about performance, I am getting sick of, so down in Torquay on the weekend watching some kids footy, which is great, beautiful [00:02:00] day by the way, Melbourne put on again 22 and sunny yesterday, might be the last of them but it was sensational, just kids footy, sausage sizzle, bag of mixed lollies, I love going to the, is local footy not the best?

[00:02:14] Wayne: Bar on heads, kids running around on the sand. Did you sign some autographs? Just, uh, beautiful. I actually did sign, I signed a crock. What? Shoe? Shoe . And I signed a footy. 

[00:02:25] Tony: Well, it's better than that kid at the GWS who had his head side. You know, I 

[00:02:27] Wayne: love, you know, I love about the young kids. Very respectful.

[00:02:30] Wayne: Young boys. Came up a little group and they little fella had a brand new Sharon. Yep. And it was, uh, one of the indigenous balls, you know, so it had the paintings and it was a really good looking footy. And I could see that it was in good Nick. And I looked straight at him. He's had all these mates there, and they came up for a photo and I said.

[00:02:48] Wayne: You don't kick that on the road, do you? And he goes, no, never kick it on the road. It's a good lesson for all the kids that do not. If you get a new footy, you look after it. Just like you look after your boots, 

[00:02:59] Tony: you 

[00:02:59] Wayne: look after [00:03:00] 

[00:03:00] Tony: your t shirts, your tools. Yep. Hey, well, that was an unwritten rule. If you got a new Ross Faulkner or a new Tommy Sharon, you do not kick it on the road because it scuffs the red leather and then it changes the dynamic of the ball.

[00:03:12] Tony: A lot of kids, 

[00:03:13] Wayne: a lot of kids don't now. You see them kicking it out there and I, you know, if you're only getting one footy for your whole childhood, you're going to look after it. And by the way, I'd never got it bought from you. I had to win it. Yeah, 

[00:03:23] Tony: but particularly gonna cost 170 bucks 

[00:03:26] Wayne: and once, and you're down in the, you know, when I call down that way of the Torkey way and, and Ocean Grove and Bow and Heads, that's, it's like little country town and it's the, the kids are very respectful.

[00:03:38] Wayne: So I had a ball down there, but talk, getting back to the pressure, I'm sick of. people coming up and it started with these kids. Oh, how North Melbourne, you know, they said it in a respectful way. It's, it's bordering on embarrassing now, North Melbourne in the way they're, um, going about their football season.

[00:03:54] Wayne: That's strong comments. Well, strong comments because I thought at the start of the year, although they got [00:04:00] beaten, there were periods within those games where they were competitive and they actually outscored their, their opponents. And it looked like, okay, you know what, this is going to be, we can, you can build off the back of this.

[00:04:13] Wayne: And the reason why, and people say to me, and, and this, you know, the only time you talk about North is when you're being negative. Well, you There hasn't been too much to, to cheer about. And if I remember rightly last year when Brett Ratton had them and then, you know, right at the end when Clarke, I thought there were some green shoots as I like to call, they started to show they were competitive.

[00:04:37] Wayne: They could have won a few games that they didn't win. One was against St Kilda, one was against Sydney. Remember they had extra man on the ground, whatever it was. So they've had, they've had a lot of success. You looked at them and thought, wow, now another pre season under the belt. Yep. And this club has actually gone backwards.

[00:04:53] Wayne: Oh, look, I thought they were In hindsight, I'm going to say this as well. I was wrong. I think losing Ben McKay was a massive [00:05:00] mistake. On what he delivered at North, I understand why they said But they could have matched, I think they could have matched The offer. The offer. And kept him. I now look at how they are defensively, and how he is going at Essendon.

[00:05:14] Wayne: And you sort of go, well, wow, but then again they wouldn't have got that draft pick, they wouldn't have got the player they've got now. I understand all of that. But this is a club that is, I mean, you know, you've got Eddie McGuire coming out saying they shouldn't, I'll just say, I love Eddie McGuire. I love him.

[00:05:30] Wayne: I think what he's done for the game and, and you know, what he did for Collingwood, but some of the, some of the stuff he comes up with and the suggestion about North, you know, moving, that's not going to improve North. North is not going to kick another five goals head by moving in from Arden Street. They are okay.

[00:05:48] Wayne: That thought couldn't work out though. They are, they are. Have they already 

[00:05:51] Tony: considered they should leave Ardensville? I'm not 

[00:05:52] Wayne: sure. They're okay. They're off the ground north of, better than they've ever been. They're certainly better than when we played in the 90s, but in the [00:06:00] 90s we actually kicked goals and we won, and we won footy games.

[00:06:03] Wayne: So what do you want? You want to be strong on the ground or off the ground? Well, invariably you want both. But right now. It's a 

[00:06:10] Tony: bit like the chicken and the egg though, isn't it, Duck? You've got to have one to be the other? 

[00:06:14] Wayne: Well, you'd, it'd be great, it'd be great to have. And like I said, they've got great facilities, they've got everything.

[00:06:21] Wayne: And maybe that's the problem with them down there. Maybe they start to think they're a bigger club than what they are and got away from the roots of, you know, what made this great club. And I remember it was the people at the club. It was the, you know, your trainers and all of your, all of your staff, your boot starter, your door, door person.

[00:06:37] Wayne: It didn't matter who it was. And I could name them all, but I won't because we haven't got long enough, but great people. You know, and it was a great club and, and the vibe, it was a good vibe. Hawthorne very similar. They're the same sort of club in, in that way. They, you know, the family club as they were called.

[00:06:56] Wayne: But I, I, whenever I look at North, I [00:07:00] just don't see, yes, Wardlaw, yes, Sheazle, Yes, you know, well, Larky, Larky, All Australian last year, they've got some great, LDU, they've got some really good talent, uh, you know, Bailey Scott, he's, I think he's finished in the top three in their BNF the last three years, so they, they've got, you know, Zerha, everyone's talking about Zerha, you know, not signing with the club, well the way Zerha's playing, I'd be, I'd be just trying to get whatever you can, I mean, he's not setting the world on fire, and in Klarko's defence, He'd said this year, he needed all of those middle rung players to step up.

[00:07:36] Wayne: And if they all step up at the same time and perform, and then your younger players then just fall underneath, and you only have to look at, you know, a few other clubs. Look at West Coast now, all of a sudden, now that Yo and these guys are standing up, then the young kids come up underneath them and all of a sudden they're playing some consistent footy.

[00:07:57] Wayne: It also raised the big question [00:08:00] now, and Dennis Page, my ex coach, who by the way, couldn't admire anyone in this life more than Pago, but, you know, reading in the Herald Sun that he said that Sheisel should be, you know, made captain next year. I couldn't be, I couldn't disagree anymore. Why? Well, he's 19 for starters.

[00:08:21] Wayne: Yep. He's, he's playing off a halfback flank. He's, he's taking all the kickouts and this isn't degrading. He's last year's BNF winner. We know he's a star. He's super talented. Making this kid captain when this club is where they're at. And they're literally on ground, not off ground, on ground. They are on their knees.

[00:08:40] Wayne: Yep. Yep. Yep. They could not be, could not be any lower than where they are right now. Now we thought a year or two ago, I think they're at their lowest ebb right now. You cannot do what Melbourne did to Trengove and Grimes years ago. They destroyed those two boys, making them captain when they were in that, in that state.

[00:08:58] Wayne: Yep. You've got to [00:09:00] make a more senior player, whether larky or someone like that, or you know, but have a senior player. lead this, lead this club for the next, for the next few years at least. Yep. And then, and then you bring in Sheisal. Well, let's Sheisal or there might, you know, it might be someone else. It might be a Warden or in three or four years it becomes Cabot, but it doesn't matter.

[00:09:19] Wayne: You do not throw this kid to the wolves because the social media and the media itself, I mean, he would just get slaughtered. Getting beaten by that amount every week. And, you know, the pressure that comes along with that, I think would be a horrific mistake. What's a bit like Patrick Griffiths? And the other part, and I said this last week, is the pressure to push him up onto the ball.

[00:09:45] Wayne: Let's get, it doesn't matter where Sheisel plays, everything, all of a sudden this young kid's the messiah. The pressure that's building on him, he's the messiah. I, I, I'm, I'm a little worried to be honest. And it's concerning that [00:10:00] everyone's talking about this kid and I know we're talking about him now but I'm talking about him in the sense of take the pressure off the kid and stop talking about him going into the middle of the ground and North will be better if he goes into the middle of the ground.

[00:10:10] Wayne: North will still lose by eight goals if he goes into the middle of the ground. Now will it be better for Sheisel? Well, I, I would argue clearly they don't think it would be at this point in his career. They know more than us. It is just concerning that, you know, the, the, Alistair Clarkson is not getting, I think, the desire, which comes back, desire and effort, right, they are the two ingredients that you just say, and they go hand in hand.

[00:10:41] Wayne: Effort is showing desire, right? And I don't see that. You look at Ross Lyon, now everyone, and yes, I work with Ross on Triple M, and everyone say you're pally pally. No, no, no, no, that's not the case. I look at, when I look at teams that Ross Lyon coached, he gets [00:11:00] automatic results with effort. and desire. St Kilda, for all those experts out there, Kingy and Kane and Gaz and you know, whoever, you know, all the, all the experts, line St Kilda's talent up with North Melbourne's talent.

[00:11:16] Wayne: And I guarantee you, it's not that much different. I'll tell you what, St Kilda go over and play Port Adelaide, who have got, you know, Rosie and Butters and Francis and Horn Francis and these guys in the middle of the ground. And then you look at what they got forward and all like behind them. And you, and you go, well, hang on.

[00:11:34] Wayne: They got beaten by 10 points on Port Adelaide's home ground. Now that is, that is effort and that is desire from St Kilda. Right, and that is with their midfield, Bob, by the way, you know, some of their better midfielders not playing great footy St Kilda I'm talking about. So, that's what's disappointing when you look at this footy club right now.

[00:11:56] Wayne: You go, well, hang on, St Kilda, Ross can get this out of St Kilda, [00:12:00] why can't we at least get that from North? And everyone's going, oh yeah, but they're just kids and, you know, they've got a lot, yes they do, but they showed effort and desire last year. Under a different coach? They showed it last year and they're now not showing it, so Do you think Clarke Co.

[00:12:16] Wayne: is the answer? Look, I'm not hanging this all on Clarke Co. I've always said that it comes back to the players but is it a system thing? Has Clarke Co. softened too much under the woke world that we live in and, you know, not being able to be maybe As, as strong as he once was, which made him the super coach and, and premiership coach that we know that he was at Hawthorne.

[00:12:43] Wayne: Has he softened too much for this group? I, that's the question that I think needs to be answered. Yeah. Do you concur? I do 

[00:12:51] Tony: concur, yeah. I think it's a really good question because when it comes from somebody like you who holds a very powerful voice in the game and you play at the club, I [00:13:00] think people stand up and take notice.

[00:13:02] Tony: But the other, the extension of the question for me is, okay, one, if you've got all these fantastic opinions, what are you doing about it? What do you mean, what am I doing? As a former club champion, how would you like to No, as 

[00:13:16] Wayne: a former player of the footy club, and as a dad who has got a son, and daughters by the way, they all barrack for North Melbourne.

[00:13:27] Wayne: The three of them. The three of them all barrack for North Melbourne. And Carter's decided to, you know, he's got all the, for Chrissie, he's got all the gear, and his birthday. Yep. Got all the gear. Um, the North Jumper, the shorts, went out rebel and, you know, bought all the stuff for him. So he's ready to go.

[00:13:45] Wayne: Oz kickstarts this week on Saturday morning, right? And he's going to have all the gear on and probably going to get teased off the park. What boots did you get him? Nike. He's got the little Nike swoosh. And you know what? More [00:14:00] importantly, they're black. We're just playing black boots with a swoosh. Yeah, that's good.

[00:14:04] Wayne: A coloured swoosh. Well everyone's got coloured boots. Oh yeah, no, I like that. I like it. Simplistic. Yes. But he's chosen and I'm in a, I'm in a difficult situation because I actually want, now I'm off my ban from last week, I want to take him to a game of footy. 

[00:14:20] Tony: Just to remind those people, the ban for PETA, right, for four weeks?

[00:14:23] Tony: Yeah, for four weeks. 

[00:14:24] Wayne: So, I want to be able to take him to a game of footy, and I'm trying to pick the game where I take him where We're going to show a little bit of fight and he doesn't come out of the ground saying, well, I'm going to barrack for the team that they just played. Is that a serious concern?

[00:14:40] Wayne: I'm really serious about it. He's got kids everywhere already saying, oh, why are you barracking for North Melbourne? And you know, what is it, dad? You teach him just like, you know, you have the conversation about Anzac Day on the weekend, not suggesting that the two are similar, but, You know, you talk to him about that, I talk to him that North are, you know, building and there's young kids and you know, you've got [00:15:00] Sheisal and you've got Wardlaw and you've got Larkey and you've got these young, young players coming through and in a few years they're going to be okay.

[00:15:06] Wayne: Well, I, I, I wouldn't be honest to him at the minute if I said they're going to be okay because at the minute, like I said, they're, they're, they're going that way. I didn't think when you finish bottom. You could go further down. 

[00:15:21] Tony: They are the only team of the 18 without a win. Yeah, well. West Coast was going to sack Adam Simpson a month ago.

[00:15:28] Wayne: But you can't be bottom and get worse. And they are. So, So Oz kickstarts this week. He's going to have all his North gear on. Has Carter chosen a favourite player yet? No, no, no. Well, that's when you go to the game, when you go to a, a live game of football, right? So he's, he hasn't even sat down and watched the whole game on the TV yet.

[00:15:46] Wayne: But I want to take him to a game this year, in the next few weeks. But picking the game to go to now, Hawthorne probably would've been a, a good one given that they might've got a win. They got smashed there. Adelaide on the weekend could have been a good choice. They [00:16:00] got smashed there. Adelaide hadn't had a win either, like.

[00:16:02] Wayne: You know, which game am I going to take him to where he's not going to come away going, Oh Dad, I think I might jump ship. 

[00:16:08] Tony: Yeah. Well, the other thing is, I'm hoping North Melbourne CEO Jennifer Watt and the President Sonia Hood and the Coach Alistair Clarkson are all listening to the Truth Hurts and say, Well, let's make it a day about it.

[00:16:19] Tony: You know, Wayne Carey's son is coming. What 

[00:16:22] Wayne: are 

[00:16:22] Tony: you doing? Are 

[00:16:23] Wayne: you serious? Stop 

[00:16:25] Tony: talking rhubarb. Just listen to me for a second, just turn around and say, we've got this kid, we want to see the future of our footy club, with young Carter Carey, we'll put a number 18 on his back. He's 

[00:16:35] Wayne: not the future of the footy club.

[00:16:37] Wayne: I want, I want him, I want to, I want to be able to say, I was with Corey McKernan on the weekend, I spoke to Mark Roberts the other day, we, I speak constantly with a few ex teammates about how North are going. Some of them are more involved, you know, in, in their head and in their hearts than others. No. In their 

[00:16:58] Tony: heads.

[00:16:58] Tony: Well 

[00:16:58] Wayne: some are, and, [00:17:00] and. I think some would like to be more involved physically. And I want to. Take him to a game of footy now What about the serious just show a bit of show that desire and that effort so that you know We I you can go to a game of footy and be proud of you for the welcome 

[00:17:16] Tony: back as a past player 

[00:17:17] Wayne: because at the Moment he's anyway He's, he's just got to get a kick at Auskick first before you start talking about being saviours.

[00:17:23] Wayne: Is that right? True. Now the other thing is He'll be judged harshly on how he goes at Auskick. 

[00:17:28] Tony: Well, he's got good genes. You 

[00:17:29] Wayne: weren't, you weren't here last year when we had a, a topic about participation medals. No, I 

[00:17:34] Tony: was in Sydney when I was, I was listening in Sydney. Not a big fan. Nobody should be a fan of participation.

[00:17:40] Tony: And speaking of participation, is it true that you were asked to go on the board of the North Melbourne Football Club last year? No. Yes, you were. No. Yeah, you were. No. Or is that something 

[00:17:52] Wayne: that you would aspire to? Let's, no. Certainly not. Let's talk about, while we had a quick chat about St Kilda, and it would [00:18:00] be remiss of us not to talk about, uh, Ross Lyons pre game speech to Fox Footy?

[00:18:04] Wayne: Jack, oh. No, he, oh, I love, I do love Ross. He bamboozled everybody. I do love, I do love Ross, but I tell you what. He gets results. He gets results straight away. And St Kilda might have only had the two wins this year, but they've been competitive in all their losses, and unlucky in a few of their losses, and took Geelong to the, uh, to the brink down at the Cattery.

[00:18:23] Wayne: Higgins. 

[00:18:24] Tony: Let's talk about Higgins. Just before you start on Higgins, they are 14th. Any Ross line team should not be 14th. Look, 

[00:18:31] Wayne: you didn't listen to a word I said. I did. Look at the talent they've got. St Kilda are no more talented than North Melbourne. North Melbourne's young talent, I think, is better than St Kilda's young talent.

[00:18:42] Wayne: But anyway, there's experts out there that look at it more closely than I do. I will say this, Higgins, The three match suspension that they've automatically given him. This is a, you're not going to take another three weeks off, are you? No, this is a classic case of, no, this is another classic case. If they [00:19:00] know that that'll be challenged and he'll get off.

[00:19:03] Tony: Yep. 

[00:19:03] Wayne: Despite 

[00:19:04] Tony: Aaliyah Lear concussed. Well, Aaliyah Lear, 

[00:19:06] Wayne: one, we, we, I talk about this, this is why I, I, this is why I don't miss about being on, on radio and TV every week or weekend. And that is because you just get sick of talking about the same crap year after year, holding the ball, the, you know, the tribunal, the score review system.

[00:19:27] Wayne: It's all, it's all the same. And Aaliyah, you have to protect yourself. Aaliyah was trying to kick the ball while he was being tackled. And that's why, invariably, he got, he got himself knocked out. Now did the Higgins contribute to it? A little bit. But when you've got a bloke over 100 kilos, and him trying to kick the ball as he's being tackled, The onus is on him to protect himself.

[00:19:50] Wayne: And I saw two or three players on the weekend as well, actually put their heads down, so it hit the ground so they would get a free kick. Totally agree. Players have got to stop doing that [00:20:00] as well. 

[00:20:00] Tony: And the AFL. The Carlton guy, when Toby Green launched at him, he did the same thing and he whacked his head on the ground, deliberately to entice a penalty.

[00:20:09] Wayne: So, talking about low Tony, uh, Serge, the best, uh, oh, the best footy out the game. Talking good numbers. It is. Well, good numbers. We weren't too bad on the weekend. We were close. The draw. The draw. The draw. The draw, uh, uh, buggered us up a little bit. 

[00:20:24] Tony: Well, is to go back last week for our, uh, choices on the Anzac Day, you chose Jordan Ngoi.

[00:20:30] Tony: Yeah. And I chose Scott Penelbury. Yeah. Scott Penelbury got put. Yeah. Holding the ball twice. Well, we could 

[00:20:35] Wayne: have, yeah, we could have had, uh, well, Zach Merritt, but, uh, anyway. Serge, they are the best, uh, they are the best up and coming out. I wonder 

[00:20:43] Tony: what their odds were for the draw. 

[00:20:46] Wayne: Would 

[00:20:47] Tony: have been big. 

[00:20:47] Wayne: Well, you could probably, uh, you could probably ask him, but let's have a look at Thursday night's game.

[00:20:53] Wayne: The 

[00:20:53] Tony: showdown. 

[00:20:54] Wayne: Showdown. Now, the one thing you know about a showdown is they're always close. Now, Adelaide, [00:21:00] Did North Melbourne play them back into form? Simple answer. Yes. Um, not that they were out of form. I mean, they had a, they, this is the only, they beat Carlton. They did. A couple of weeks ago. What, three 

[00:21:12] Tony: points I think it was at Marvel.

[00:21:13] Tony: Yeah, 

[00:21:13] Wayne: yeah, yeah. So they beat them. So Adelaide are at 2. Which is, uh, Not too bad showdowns. They're generally close. So you don't expect this to be and what a Port Adelaide 

[00:21:23] Tony: 1. 84 So 

[00:21:25] Wayne: 1. 

[00:21:26] Tony: Collingwood two weeks. The island beats and killed her by 10 or so on the weekend 

[00:21:31] Wayne: Yeah, no, they beats and killed her by 10.

[00:21:33] Wayne: Yeah. Yeah, so 2 1. 84. So always a boy. Who do I like? You know what? I get the feeling So Port Adelaide who would I I don't think playing Great footy, Aaliyah Aaliyah is going to miss. Um, I, I'm, I like Adelaide. Really? Yeah, well especially, you know, 2. That may, that may come out a little bit too. Okay. Um, remember, it's uh, it's Monday [00:22:00] evening.

[00:22:00] Wayne: So, uh, yes, my old team. By the way, they're playing for the, uh, 

[00:22:05] Tony: No, 

[00:22:07] Wayne: I wouldn't have thought so. And uh, Friday night. Now 

[00:22:10] Tony: this is big. 

[00:22:11] Wayne: This is massive. Massive. When have we had, and I know we said this about Anzac Day, excuse me, I said this about Anzac Day, but when have we had a Carlton Collingwood game as big as this one?

[00:22:23] Wayne: So the Blues, favourites. Yep. No, can you believe it? 

[00:22:28] Tony: Blue's favourites. 

[00:22:28] Wayne: Favourites. 1. 86. Well, barring their loss 

[00:22:32] Tony: against Geelong, they've been very good this year. 

[00:22:35] Wayne: 1. 86. The pie's 1. 98. 

[00:22:39] Tony: Who do you like? 

[00:22:41] Wayne: I, you go with who you trust more. 

[00:22:43] Tony: What, you don't? They've got 

[00:22:44] Wayne: more, well, Carlton have got more firepower. 

[00:22:48] Tony: Yeah?

[00:22:49] Wayne: But, I trust Collingwood more. 

[00:22:51] Tony: It's a really interesting statement. 

[00:22:53] Wayne: Now remember, I reckon this is the game that, uh, was it Jamie Elliott, was it last year that Jamie Elliott kicked the big [00:23:00] goal from the boundary? Carlton should have known it was the year before. And then he turned 

[00:23:02] Tony: around and went like that to the crowd.

[00:23:03] Tony: Maybe that was the year 

[00:23:03] Wayne: before, but it doesn't Oh, he's very good at it. This is going to be a massive, massive game. I will go with the pies. So, I've gone the two underdogs. Now I know they're very close, but still they're the underdogs according to the surge shares. So, um, surge shares, surge price. 

[00:23:24] Tony: You're going to put them on the stock market?

[00:23:25] Tony: Well, oh boy. 

[00:23:27] Wayne: Um, so I'm going to go with the pies and the crows. 

[00:23:31] Tony: The pies and the crows. Now what about Saturday night? 

[00:23:34] Wayne: Yep. And I'm going to go. So 

[00:23:36] Tony: Melbourne's at 2. Yep. And the cats are at 1. 85. 

[00:23:40] Wayne: So I'm going to go with the underdogs again. 

[00:23:44] Tony: Interesting. 

[00:23:44] Wayne: The D's. 

[00:23:46] Tony: No, I like Geelong. They're too good. 

[00:23:47] Wayne: Okay, so who are you tipping?

[00:23:49] Tony: I'm going Geelong, Collingwood, Port Adelaide. 

[00:23:53] Wayne: Okay, so we've, uh, well, we're pretty much, uh, complete opposites. So I'm going the D's, [00:24:00] the Pies and Adelaide. All underdogs according to the, uh, according 

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[00:24:41] Tony: Um, I was just about to say something then about, uh, St Kilda. Oh, about Jack Higgins. The discrepancy in height. Jack Higgins is 177 centimetres tall. Aaliyah Aaliyah is 196 centimetres. That's two thirds of a ruler. It was just the action. It was, 

[00:24:59] Wayne: it [00:25:00] was obviously Higgins underneath trying to bring him down and Aaliyah Aaliyah trying to kick the ball, which then took his other leg, which so he loses complete balance.

[00:25:09] Wayne: And there was only one thing that was going to happen from there. So, you know, Aaliyah Aaliyah should have just been said, okay, I'm caught here holding the ball and he wouldn't have been knocked out. So in 

[00:25:19] Tony: saying that, Duck, in all sense of seriousness, what would satisfy you for Jack Higgins to sit out?

[00:25:27] Wayne: No, he'll get off. I think 

[00:25:29] Tony: he gets a 

[00:25:29] Wayne: week. No, get off. He should get off. Because Aaliyah Lear contributed more to that than what Higgins did. 

[00:25:35] Tony: Do you think it then comes down to the discrepancy of the AFL tribunal, or is it how good your lawyer is? 

[00:25:42] Wayne: Probably. Well, it's toss a coin with the AFL. 

[00:25:44] Tony: Yeah. 

[00:25:45] Wayne: So it doesn't matter how good your lawyer is, in my opinion.

[00:25:49] Wayne: Something a bit more positive. 

[00:25:51] Tony: I was going to start on that same game before you go there. The Charlie Dixon, running back with the flight of the ball last quarter, almost, he'd probably saved the [00:26:00] game. Charlie Dixon, I know he's six foot seven or whatever he is, had Jamie, I stood next to him the other week.

[00:26:05] Tony: He's a monster. He's a monster. Oh, he's a big fella. And then the beard goes well. He ran back with the flight of the ball, backing back into a pack of I think three or four, took the mark. And I thought if it wasn't for Jamie Elliott's spectacular Mark Anzac Day, that should have been Mark of the Week. to do what he did without looking back at who was coming and to take that mark with both hands.

[00:26:29] Tony: It's fantastic. Yeah, he's a big guy when he's on. 

[00:26:33] Wayne: Um, Port Adelaide, they, they don't lose games with him. He kicked four straight. They don't lose games when he's playing well. Yep. Let's touch on Jamie Elliott, because that was an absolute rips off. Was it? What? It was a, it was a, it wasn't a great game of footy in terms of, you know, the skills and everything else.

[00:26:48] Wayne: But it was a great game of footy because of the, uh, day. Yep. Um, and because there was some unbelievable highlights in it. Did you go to the ground? That was, no, no, no, no. I just, uh, I just, uh, Watched it from home [00:27:00] and, like I said, sat down and explained, uh, to, uh, Carter about what Anzac Day was and everything else and how big it was and it, it was, it was, I thoroughly enjoyed the day.

[00:27:11] Wayne: Was he, was 

[00:27:12] Tony: Carter enthusiastic about why the men in suits are coming on? Yes, yes, yeah, no, he And the hundred thousand people standing in silence? He was, he was. Where, 

[00:27:21] Wayne: where is What, what, what, what, is anyone separated in your mind from where they will finish in this AFL season or, you know, obviously Geelong are undefeated.

[00:27:31] Wayne: I don't, for what it's worth, um, they obviously, uh, good win on the weekend against the Blues. They had a good win last week, like I said. Yeah, beat Brisbane. Finally playing, although when you look at where Brisbane are at. Well, so I thought that was the win that sort of said, okay, well, you played a good team, but the way Brisbane are going, you sort of go, well, look what, look what GWS did to them.

[00:27:56] Tony: Yeah. Speaking of GWS and Brisbane, do you [00:28:00] find that Lockie Neal finds himself in trouble far too often as the receiver? Well, with Cal Ward, he's sort of getting touched in the throat and falls down and same thing happened when the Lions played Carlton. I think there's another game where Lachie Neal found himself in some trouble.

[00:28:15] Tony: Well, when you're the, when you're a prime ball mover, you do get niggled at. So you, you, generally your, your retaliator is a lot. Yeah, it just seems to be, he seems to be the one every week. I don't know whether he is targeted or whether he's faking it. 

[00:28:28] Wayne: Well, he's a good player, 

[00:28:30] Tony: so. Callum Ward doesn't go after anybody.

[00:28:32] Tony: I think, I think GWS are the team to beat. Well, there was no green, no Coniglio, no Taylor. And look what they did. 

[00:28:41] Wayne: And you look at what they did at the end of last year, they followed that on. Um, they're a, they're a serious 

[00:28:47] Tony: footy team. And I love the way they move the footy. Can they beat Sydney this week?

[00:28:52] Tony: The, uh, second v third? Battle of the bridge. They don't like calling it that anymore, do they? That's because three quarters of the Giants players live in 

[00:28:59] Wayne: [00:29:00] Bondi. Um, can they? Yes, they can. It's at the EEGs it. That's right. It's Saturday. Saturday afternoon. We actually, actually, we might go, I'm gonna be in Sydney, so uh, I might go to the, uh, I've been invited to the game.

[00:29:12] Wayne: Yeah. I obviously get tickets anyway, but, uh, I think that's, you've got my 

[00:29:16] Tony: number Friday night, don't you? We do. There's, uh, yes, we or you and somebody else. What do you mean? Oh, um, am I coming? ? Oh, 

[00:29:25] Wayne: well, uh, you can be my plus too. No, it's, uh, New South Wales, New South Wales Hall of Fame. Is 

[00:29:33] Tony: it 

[00:29:33] Wayne: inaugural?

[00:29:34] Tony: Inaugural. Yes. It sounds like a big night. 

[00:29:37] Wayne: Well, I don't know yet. I'll let you know how big a night. Well, if you're there, do you want to come? 

[00:29:42] Tony: I would love 

[00:29:43] Wayne: to. Have you got a, you can't wear that. The suits you've been wearing in here. 

[00:29:49] Tony: Oh, I'll dress up. You've got to go back to Rochford. It's actually a 

[00:29:53] Wayne: black tie event.

[00:29:54] Wayne: Yeah. I'll ring, I'll 

[00:29:56] Tony: see if you're allowed. Tell them they'll get a maximum amount [00:30:00] of exposure on The Truth Hurts. Oh, I'll see if you're allowed. So who wins out of Sydney in GWS? I'm gonna say GWF. I like it. Particularly, look, I think if those three boys can come back, Well, Toby's definitely coming back.

[00:30:19] Tony: Toby's definitely coming back, yes. He's had a week rest, he'll be, uh, he'll be fresh. Yeah, he was jumping out of his skin. Generally, 

[00:30:25] Wayne: you know, when you're around this time of year, I know he obviously would have loved to have played, but in the end it didn't matter. Just to have that little freshen up, he'll be, uh, he'll be running on top of the ground.

[00:30:37] Wayne: It'll be, it's gonna be a great game to watch. And he loves playing well against Sydney. I can, I can say this, I won't be at the game. You won't? Nah. We don't go up, I don't go up to Sydney weekend away to go and watch a game of footy. Well are you going to walk with sand in your toes down the bollard with jes?

[00:30:53] Wayne: I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll be doing a lot more fun stuff than watching a game of footy. I know what you'll be doing, sitting at the 

[00:30:59] Tony: [00:31:00] pool deck of the intercontinental drinking a daiquiri. I'll, 

[00:31:02] Wayne: I'll watch the uh, I'll see highlights of it, but I certainly won't be, uh, watching it. Um, What? I'm 

[00:31:10] Tony: just gonna, I'm gonna warn all the pubs and bars in the eastern suburbs of Sydney.

[00:31:15] Tony: Why would I go up for a weekend away? Wayne Carey is coming, ladies and gentlemen. Why 

[00:31:18] Wayne: would I go to Sydney for a weekend and go and watch footy? Well, you'd go and, um That's just, that's bordering on stupidity. 

[00:31:25] Tony: Mate, Sydney, the SCG's a great ground, and if you have 

[00:31:27] Wayne: access to a box Yeah, I live in Melbourne.

[00:31:29] Wayne: I can go to games of footy all the time and I'm going away for a weekend. You don't go and watch footy. 

[00:31:35] Tony: Yeah, okay. Well, there's a lot more to do in Sydney. There's, well, there is. Like 

[00:31:40] Wayne: sunshine? Well, I've looked at the weather. I think Melbourne's going to be better weather, but it doesn't matter. Um, have you noticed that there's even an Olympic Games on at the minute?

[00:31:50] Tony: Only this year. Channel 10, when Channel Nine puts up that little, um, watermark at the top right of their screen. Was it Paris 2024 is channel not Channel seven have the Olympics, aren't they? They did. I think Channel [00:32:00] nine took it off them. No, I don't think so. Well, yeah. Well, who did? London Channel Nine.

[00:32:04] Tony: Did they? Yeah. Oh, so it's, I think, was it Tokyo two years ago? Yes. Yeah. Was it 

[00:32:12] Wayne: two years ago or three years ago? Uh, either or. Well, covid buggered everyone. Yeah. Well, 

[00:32:16] Tony: it's every four years. 

[00:32:17] Wayne: Yes. I Thanks Tony . I, I know that it's every four years, but because of Covid it, uh, it's changed. Yes. So it's a shorter gap this year, but I've, and, and I've gotta be honest, I don't watch a lot of free to air tv.

[00:32:31] Wayne: Yep. I'm always, you know, you're on Netflix or Stand or what is your favorite show? Mine. Yeah. You know what? I'm gonna go back and watch. Well, just to change the subject, I'm gonna go back and watch revenge. Do you remember that series? Is that, what's that, um, Gorgeous Emily Van Camp? Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm going to go back and watch that from the start.

[00:32:48] Wayne: Because I didn't, never got to the end, so I'm going to go back to the start and watch it. Anyway, what was, oh, the Olympics. Yeah. Does anyone even know that it's on? I don't think 

[00:32:56] Tony: anybody cares that it's on. 

[00:32:58] Wayne: Really? Well, 

[00:32:59] Tony: [00:33:00] why? We're talking about the Olympics. It doesn't have the same invigoration and or profile.

[00:33:05] Tony: But why? I think there's elements of cheating. Where's the advertising? Where's, where's the, where's the fanfare around, you know, our great athletes? Your mates from RM Williams, they dress all the athletes. Twig. Tweet. Andrew. Um, yeah, but why? Look, I don't know, but I thought at least 10 years ago. You should 

[00:33:27] Wayne: be, you know, driving down the freeway and, you know, seeing that, you know, the Olympics are on and such and such.

[00:33:34] Wayne: Like, I'm not seeing any of that. Or am I just oblivious? Is it out there and I haven't seen it? No, no, no, 

[00:33:39] Tony: you're not oblivious, but I just don't think the same fanfare is. Covering the Olympics because the generation of today and tomorrow don't really care about it unless you are designated Which is probably the wrong word unless you are involved in that sport.

[00:33:55] Tony: You don't really care 

[00:33:57] Wayne: Yeah, well, I disagree and I and I know the [00:34:00] numbers were huge. No Channel 7 definitely had Did have 

[00:34:03] Tony: it. So maybe they bought it back off them. 

[00:34:05] Wayne: Anyway, it doesn't whoever has got the Olympics Start putting it out there a little bit more and let's get excited around our great athletes.

[00:34:13] Wayne: Oh, I think you're 

[00:34:14] Tony: right. Is Hamish McLaughlin doing something? Of 

[00:34:16] Wayne: course, 

[00:34:16] Tony: it 

[00:34:16] Wayne: is, it is Channel 7. Channel 9 Addicts. I remember Hamish, I remember BT put in for the basketball. Yeah. This is, here's a funny little, uh, funny little story. Any day? BT, get your ears ready. About when the Olympics, yeah, so, You're right, Tokyo.

[00:34:35] Wayne: Where were they the year before, uh, the four years prior to that? Was it, uh, Sochi? Was it Seoul? Sochi? I don't know. Anyway, BT went to Lewis, Lewis Martin, at Channel 7 and said, Well, you know, I, I follow the basketball. I'd love to, you know, be involved in the basketball. And it's, uh, you know, I think, being BT, I should be given the right to go over.

[00:34:59] Wayne: So he [00:35:00] wanted to be flown over. Yep. It was, it was during, it was right at the, it was definitely the, um, it was Jaffa during COVID. No, it was the COVID because they're only taking limited. a skeleton crew, as they say, over, but BT wanted to go over and, and, you know, call Greece via the USA. And he basically BT wanted to, you know, he wanted to, no, he wanted to rub shoulders with the USA team.

[00:35:24] Wayne: That's, you know, real, like he thought, you know, I'll be out there, LeBron, I'll be caught. Yeah. I'll be, you know, talking about that big bird and LeBron.

[00:35:34] Wayne: That's what he thought, and he'd be doing the Aussie games and you know everything else and my understanding, well not my understanding, I think Lewis said to him well, you know, you're going to have to, uh, you know, work on the names, you're going to have to know the names of all the uh, you know, the grief players, you're going to have to know, you know, the, the Afghan, you know, all that.

[00:35:52] Wayne: So, and once BT sort of looked at the thing and thought, okay, so I'm going to have to study and know all the, he said, yeah, no, I think I'll stay [00:36:00] at 

[00:36:00] Tony: home. That's, is that a true story? That is a true story. So what, BT thought he was just going to go and interview the Australians and the Americans. He basically 

[00:36:08] Wayne: thought he was going to go over there, sit back, commentate on the Aussies and what, and 

[00:36:13] Tony: yeah, the big 

[00:36:13] Wayne: games, the big games.

[00:36:15] Tony: What and then sit in the media centre and be a rockstar. And 

[00:36:17] Wayne: well, that's, you, that's a true story. And, and once he found out, he'd have to do the, you know, the, the other games. Yeah. Not so Like Romania and Not, not, not, not the big, uh, names. 

[00:36:29] Tony: Hey, now BT, we, uh, actually teased our favourite commentators about three weeks ago and still haven't done it.

[00:36:35] Tony: Haven't done it? We might have to put our heads down. While we're 

[00:36:37] Wayne: on, former colleagues And, and great colleagues by the way, BT. He makes me laugh. So that, those little stories make me laugh. And the other one that made me laugh, and I don't believe, uh, rumor and innuendo, but I read, uh, about Billy going on a reality TV show.

[00:36:54] Wayne: Now he's done, he's done the jungle. Yes. And I, a little birdie tells me that it might be the [00:37:00] amazing race. For Bill? For Big Bill. He's not the greatest runner. Well, it'd be like the tortoise and the hare. Who do you think he would duel with? Oh. I don't know. But is that, I wonder if that's true. Well, if it is, there's smoke, there's fire.

[00:37:15] Wayne: If it is, then, uh, I, I think that you tune in to watch Bill. He's very, very, very good. He's very funny. I'll actually call him. I'll, I'll give him a buzz today and find out what, uh, which one it is. He probably contractually can't talk about which one it is at the moment, 

[00:37:30] Tony: but he did, but 

[00:37:31] Wayne: at least he was honest.

[00:37:32] Wayne: And they said, why are you doing it? He said cash. He's not still playing, surely it won't be dancing with the stars. He's just come back from New York. I think 

[00:37:40] Tony: he had a pretty fairly hefty credit card bill. He wouldn't be doing any of the, you know. He wouldn't be doing SAS. He wouldn't be doing SAS. Not like you, where you tore your shoulder in half.

[00:37:51] Wayne: He's, yeah. So, you know, well done though Bill, but I will find out. I find it funny if it is the amazing 

[00:37:57] Tony: race. Yeah, speaking of former colleagues, we [00:38:00] had Mark McClure and Kenny Hunter on last week for their fifth quarter foundation. Went down to the Botanical and the Gilson and the Botanical Gardens across the road for your amazing photo front page of the Herald Sun Yeah, it's good to be on the front page for good reasons.

[00:38:14] Tony: Yeah, that was a very good photo. They did extremely well. I could have What could have done the best what I stopped a bit more he could have given you a better t shirt but I tell you what we did say after you made a dash for Carter school the CEO of the Formula One Grand Prix here in Melbourne Travis old You We've seen walking out of the Gilson and five minutes later, his lunch pal, Andrew Demetriou.

[00:38:39] Tony: I wonder what they were doing, uh. 

[00:38:41] Wayne: Well, hang on, let me guess. Probably eating. Well, they're going to a restaurant. Yes. Would that be fair enough? Well, it would be. You're just looking at a different angle, but maybe they're just going for lunch. 

[00:38:56] Tony: Yeah, that could be. Okay. Well, it's not a puzzle. No, it's just [00:39:00] interesting to see that, you know, these people who are former colleagues just catching up in South Yarra.

[00:39:04] Tony: Talking about, um, 

[00:39:06] Wayne: going for lunch, I have, and everyone knows, I've, I've had a couple of, uh, froffies in the last 10 weeks, only a couple. Right. Yeah. Two occasions. I've had a couple of beers in 10 weeks. I'm off the, uh, I'm getting off the, uh, anti inflams. I'm gonna get, oh, breaking news. I'm gonna get off the antiinflammatories for good because I've, I've got off my bum and done a little bit of research around CBD oil.

[00:39:34] Wayne: This is beautiful, and I know this is, I know there's heaps of people out there, and I've spoken about a little bit about this before, but come across a, a. A, uh, CBD company called cma clinic.com au. Yes. Yep. CMA clinic. Right. And gone online booked the doctor, and I'm gonna see the doctor tomorrow to actually get prescribed CBD oil so that I [00:40:00] don't have to, you know, keep popping anti inflams anymore.

[00:40:03] Wayne: Is 

[00:40:03] Tony: that how you do it? 

[00:40:04] Wayne: Uh, well, well, I do. Now, 

[00:40:08] Tony: are you? Do you use CBD oil to, uh, get your hundreds together? 

[00:40:12] Wayne: And I won't be dropping any oil on a casino table. 

[00:40:16] Tony: Okay. 

[00:40:19] Wayne: This is plant based CBD oil. Well, 

[00:40:22] Tony: you'll be allowed in, um, Crane Casino with your CBD oil. Well, well, well, 

[00:40:26] Wayne: well. 

[00:40:28] Tony: Are you? I suspect. 

[00:40:30] Wayne: Well, it comes from a plant.

[00:40:31] Wayne: And it is medicinal. No. I assume you just don't drop it on the table, but I, I, it's no, it is liquid, right? It is that easy. You know how I do the mosh, you do all the mosh online. That's exactly that. So people out there think it's, you know, I'm telling you now, this would have once again done my research on it.

[00:40:50] Wayne: So sleep, sleep, obviously the anti inflammatory, anxiety, all of those things. It can, it can help with. So [00:41:00] I'm going to give it a full go. I'm not thinking you can have it without that element in it. I'm going to give it a go and give people update and we're going to sort of follow it through and make sure.

[00:41:11] Wayne: Cause you, I assume the first time you take it, you don't just bounce out and. Thank you. It all depends on how 

[00:41:16] Tony: it reacts to your body. 

[00:41:18] Wayne: You've got insomnia at the best of times. You probably, we don't need you eating a whole packet of Tim Tams after. I 

[00:41:25] Tony: usually do. 

[00:41:27] Wayne: So what have you got 

[00:41:27] Tony: it for? What are you prescribing CBD 

[00:41:29] Wayne: oil for?

[00:41:30] Wayne: Well, where do you want me to start? So shoulders, shoulders, neck, two biggest things. So I've got a serious neck injury where, You know, if it went any, well, it's three, three discs that need replacing in my neck. Three. Are you going to have that done? No, because I've, I'm popping enough anti inflammatories to keep myself feeling okay and I'm exercising, which also helps.

[00:41:56] Wayne: So you keep the joints moving. That all helps. I'm getting [00:42:00] osteo. I'm doing all of that. So all of those things contribute, but I will, you know, you've got to, every time you take anti inflammatories, you've got to have a full stomach. Yeah. Because you can get an ulcer in the stomach. 

[00:42:12] Tony: Yep. 

[00:42:12] Wayne: If you don't. So if you don't take the In actual fact, I think Danielle Laidley, uh, I think She had a really bad ulcer from anti inflammatories after, after she retired from footy.

[00:42:25] Wayne: Is that legitimately anti 

[00:42:25] Tony: inflammatories? 

[00:42:27] Wayne: Yeah, and I think there was a number of different players that have had a lot of problems with ulcers and things. And they are, it's a very serious, it burns a hole in your stuff, like it's a serious Because it creates the acidity in your gut. It's a serious drug.

[00:42:40] Wayne: So the CBD oil, um, I'm hoping, well clearly it's going to be better for you. Yeah. I'm hoping has a way better result as well. And all that also helps with, like I said, apparently sleep and all, all of those other little things that help, um, with your hair stimulation, get a little bit. No, I'll keep popping those pills.

[00:42:58] Wayne: Well, the mosh, you've got to, you've got [00:43:00] to get the mosh. You've got to, you know, the Fred Astaire's still there. Yeah. He's got good Fred Astaire. Yeah. Well, I haven't got a possum on my head just yet. So that's the most important thing. So cmaclinic. com. au. So you, you. And I know you get a little bit of, uh, you get a bit anxious.

[00:43:15] Tony: Yeah, I've got a shocking sleep habit. Yeah, you do. What, what's it called? My, I take Stilnox. Oh, are you serious? Yes. That is just, that, they're terrible for 

[00:43:26] Wayne: it's the only 

[00:43:27] Tony: thing that keeps me asleep. Don't they send you, don't you go sleepwalking and all that for them? Yeah, they can. Sleep driving, sleep everything.

[00:43:33] Tony: It is, they are border, still knocks are bordering on being banned. So why are you taking them? Because it's the only thing that puts me to sleep. Well, you're gonna, you're gonna do this as well. Yeah, well, sign me up. Yeah, well. You can be our guinea pig. 

[00:43:46] Wayne: You've gotta go online. You've got to order your own and you go and speak to the doctor.

[00:43:50] Tony: Yep, 

[00:43:51] Wayne: and then it'll be 

[00:43:51] Tony: prescribed So it's all legal for all your fans out in In podcast land. Do you know what the cost is? No idea yet. I've got the appointment [00:44:00] tomorrow. Okay. Well, we look forward to it So next week there should be some improvement Well, I hope so. I might come in here and bounce it around.

[00:44:07] Tony: No, I'm serious about that. I'm looking forward to that. Does CMA Clinics have a, um, retail post? They've got an outlet? Or is it just everything online? It's all online. Okay. Well, my understanding, I'll find out tomorrow. Yeah, beautiful. So, the Olympics is done. We've forgotten, we're not talking about that anymore.

[00:44:25] Tony: What about, what about, um, Buddy Franklin? We're going to Sydney on the weekend. What did you think of his lap of honour yesterday? 

[00:44:32] Wayne: Uh, 

[00:44:33] Tony: classy, 

[00:44:34] Wayne: um, I thought well done to Buddy because, You know, he's been at Sydney, played longer at Sydney in the end than he did at Hawthorne. What did he play at 

[00:44:42] Tony: Sydney, 11 

[00:44:43] Wayne: years?

[00:44:43] Wayne: Nah, I think it was 10 or 11 and about 9 at Hawthorne. But he, uh, you know, Premiership player, two time Premiership player, superstar, kicked 100 goals at the Hawks. Started his career there, they give him a chance, you know. 

[00:44:56] Tony: I wish he had have won a Premiership for the Swans. Yeah, well, he did everything [00:45:00] but got to Grand Finals.

[00:45:01] Tony: Oh, he played in two Grand Finals? Yeah. I think, you know, people were critical of the deal when Andrew Ireland crowded it. It's worth every cent. Times, a hundred. Plus some, yeah. Mate, he was sensational for that. He does 

[00:45:13] Wayne: look awkward, uh, when he's in there. when he's in the spotlight as well. I think the way he embraced the thousand goals and the way he handled that with all, you know, the crowd and the way he got off the ground, the way he's handled himself, you know, with his lap of honour at Sydney, the way he did it on the weekend, uh, he can drift off into the sunset now.

[00:45:32] Wayne: And if he wants to be incognito, he can. And I think 

[00:45:36] Tony: he's still Buddy 

[00:45:36] Wayne: Franklin though. No, I know, but He doesn't have to do any more laps of honour. He doesn't have to go to nightclubs. No, no, no. His next thing, he'll be inducted into the Hall of Fame and that'll 

[00:45:46] Tony: be his next public appearance. What does Buddy do, though, in terms of, do you reckon he'll be able to assimilate into day to day life?

[00:45:56] Wayne: Well, 

[00:45:56] Tony: how would I know? You've been in a similar position. Yeah, [00:46:00] but how, I don't know what Buddy's, I assume, You know, you know, it's got things sorted. Yeah, well you would hope so. We're losing a 10 million dollar house in the Gold Coast. Good on him. 

[00:46:09] Wayne: They look like they've got their life set up. He'll be, he'll be, he'll be fine.

[00:46:12] Wayne: But I think it'll be done. On the low down rather than in the spotlight, so well done to buddy Yeah, I thought that was fantastic and I reckon that's a good way to wrap it up. Oh just 

[00:46:21] Tony: before we wrap it up Why do you do that every week? 

[00:46:23] Wayne: Well, 

[00:46:23] Tony: because you'd never ask whether I've got anything else to say, okay Well, you okay.

[00:46:27] Tony: Keep going. Well now St Kilda. Now, we know Ross has got the on field stuff sorted. Oh, I thought we'd Hang on, it's a Segway Wayne, hang on So you know Ross Lyons got everything sorted on the field. They're, they're aspiring to success and they're up the Ascension letter. What about their off field? There's a little birdie that tells me that, um, 

[00:46:44] Wayne: Oh, so we're going to go with a rumour again.

[00:46:46] Tony: It's not a rumour. 

[00:46:47] Wayne: Okay. What? 

[00:46:48] Tony: That, uh, former West Coast Eagles CEO Trevor Nisbet might've just jumped into favouritism for the St Kilda CEO's job. 

[00:46:57] Wayne: Oh, that'd be big for St Kilda. That'd be massive. He's, he's, [00:47:00] uh, highly, highly, uh, Thought of. 

[00:47:04] Tony: Thought 

[00:47:05] Wayne: of. 

[00:47:05] Tony: Sought 

[00:47:05] Wayne: after. Yes, correct. 

[00:47:07] Tony: He was behind the West Coast Eagles juggernaut and, um, he got them a couple of flags.

[00:47:11] Tony: Yep, it'd be a big, uh, it'd be a big get. He would be massive. So, well done. Finish on a little newsy bit. Yeah, people love news, cause you can't make them laugh, so I tell them what they don't know. You're just laughing at your own gag. Alright. We've been hanging around you too long. Thanks Tony. Thanks Wayne, I enjoyed it.

[00:47:30] Alright.