Join host Lynn Debilzen in this authentic interview with Carin Paupore on Redraw Your Path!
In this interview, Lynn learns about Carin’s journey through careers of graphic design, community-based service, and entrepreneurship. Their conversation touches on:
Tune in for a dynamic discussion on life and growth!
About Carin:
Carin Paupore is a Career & Leadership Coach with True You Coaching Services, which she started in 2022 to support women in connecting with their badassery as leaders so they can feel their most confident. Carin started down her current path as she came out of a Director-level role where she never felt like she could show up as her authentic self. As a result, it completely stripped her of her confidence. She helps other women leaders make sure they do their own inner work to lead their teams confidently. Carin is an outdoor adventurer who served in the Peace Corps twice (Paraquay and Panama) - she still loves to travel and experience new cultures and places.
Connect with Carin:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carinpaupore
Find her on other socials: @true_you_career_coaching
Connect with Lynn:
Join host Lynn Debilzen in this authentic interview with Carin Paupore on Redraw Your Path!
In this interview, Lynn learns about Carin’s journey through careers of graphic design, community-based service, and entrepreneurship. Their conversation touches on:
Tune in for a dynamic discussion on life and growth!
About Carin:
Carin Paupore is a Career & Leadership Coach with True You Coaching Services, which she started in 2022 to support women in connecting with their badassery as leaders so they can feel their most confident. Carin started down her current path as she came out of a Director-level role where she never felt like she could show up as her authentic self. As a result, it completely stripped her of her confidence. She helps other women leaders make sure they do their own inner work to lead their teams confidently. Carin is an outdoor adventurer who served in the Peace Corps twice (Paraquay and Panama) - she still loves to travel and experience new cultures and places.
Connect with Carin:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carinpaupore
Find her on other socials: @true_you_career_coaching
Connect with Lynn:
Hey friends, welcome to Redraw Your Path, a podcast where I share stories of people who have made big changes in their lives and forged their own unique paths. Guests talk about their moments of messiness, fear, and reframing on their way to where they are now. I'm Lynn Debilzen, and my goal is to inspire you about the shape your life could take. So let's get inspired. All right. Hey, friends. I am so thrilled to share this conversation with you with Carin Paupore. You are going to find that it is real, it is raw, and it is really relatable. The three R's. Real, raw, relatable. a bit about Carin. Carin Paupore is a career and leadership coach with True You Coaching Services, which she started to support women in connecting with their bad assery as leaders so they can feel their most confident. She started True You Coaching in 2022 after coming out of a director level role where she never felt like she could show up as her authentic self. Ooooh, relatable. as a result, that experience completely stripped her of her confidence. So now she is on a mission to help other women leaders do their own inner work in order to lead their teams confidently and step into their badassery. Carin is an outdoor adventurer who served in the Peace Corps twice. Once in Paraguay and once in Panama, and she still loves to travel and experience new cultures and places. I feel very lucky to call her a friend, and, I really hope you enjoy this conversation. Really curious what you're taking away, and enjoy! Hey, Carin, I am so excited to have you here and talking with listeners of Redraw Your Path. and I'm curious, let's kick it off with, having you tell listeners about where and how you grew up. Give us some context to your life.
Carin:Absolutely. I'm super excited to be here on Redraw Your Path. I think I've redrawn my path several times. So it, when you mentioned it and you invited me, I was like, oh, this makes sense. so I'm originally from a rural small town in the upper peninsula of Michigan. I'm a Youper. and I lived up there for 26 years. I went to college in the UP and then eventually I ended up I was in the Peace Corps. I've lived in South America. I've lived in Denver for seven years. I lived in New Haven for a short stint, Connecticut, that is, I lived in Panama for a while, and now I am here in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. and I would say that my route here has been very circuitous. the path is just like full of twists and turns and ups and downs and cross. backtracks and all kinds of things. So that's where I'm from. I guess a little, do you want to know about my family?
Lynn:Yeah, whatever you want to share. And I will say, I know you've redrawn your path a few times, which is what makes you a perfect guest. Also, how small was your small town?
Carin:My high school was 400 students.
Lynn:Okay, same.
Carin:So not but but small. I mean, the neighboring high school was 800. which felt huge the, the town itself, has like 10, 000 people, maybe 8, 000. In the town, but it's got like a neighbor town, like a twin town, and, then I went to school in an even more remote area in the so, I don't know, that's where I grew up, that's, I, so I'm from the Northwoods, a couple characteristics, I'm an only child. I swear I don't have only child syndrome as people like to point out about. I don't know people have something against only children. I won't go on that tangent, um, I grew up with cousins. So I have a cousin who is my sister and We had kind of this idyllic Norman Rockwell upbringing in some ways, where like we were all at the family cottage, which is a very northern Wisconsin upper peninsula thing, for listeners out there. And, uh, we Um, would be at the cottage every Sunday. My grandmother insisted. We had huge family dinner, all the cousins, aunts, uncles, everyone, you know, dads are playing ball with their sons the, the women are cooking and the kids are around. I mean, just honestly, it's kind of like a Norman Rockwell painting until it wasn't of course, but which of course also eventually happened, but, Growing up, that was, really like my every single week. That was Sunday. That's what we did. There was no other option. So, I grew up with a lot of family and cousins around and I feel like that's also been really important to my values and to me developing what's important to me now.
Lynn:I love that. and I think, anytime you are in a painting, like this very happy painting, that painting eventually comes to life. And it turns out it's oftentimes more complicated. so where and how are you currently spending your days?
Carin:currently I am self employed and I spend my days working from home and building an online coaching business in leadership, confidence, and career coaching. it's an interesting uh, solopreneurship or entrepreneurship, and it looks a lot like some days I am just intense. I'm on the computer. I have client calls. I've got, I'm working on a a new presentation or a new training. Uh, and then other days, I might work all weekend and then suddenly other days like Tuesday comes and I throw up a LinkedIn post and go to the grocery store and that's about what I get done. So it's an interesting up and down journey, that involves a lot of self motivation.
Lynn:Awesome. I feel you on that and definitely the learning curve of figuring out all of that, but then also realizing for me as well. I'm a weekend worker. I love working on the weekends. I love being at coffee shops and getting work done on the weekends and being productive. Wednesdays, not so much. I'm wondering, most of us grew up with some sort of external pressure or expectations placed on us, those molds that we didn't ask for. What were some of those for you? So basically, what path were you expected to take, if any?
Carin:I think the path I was expected to take that of the the quote unquote career woman, the 80s career woman. Like, I mean, I realize in today's day and age, the idea of a quote unquote career woman is like very different from what it was then. But my mom was what was considered a career woman back in the, you know, 70s, 80s, and 90s. that was the path I think I was expected to take. It was always expected that I would. I would do well in school, that I would go to college, I would get my degree, I would start my career. it was probably expected that I would, meet a partner and get married and have kids. I think because that just seems to be, at the time anyway, it was kind of just a general societal expectation. But the career path. So my mom was a corporate woman. So I think it was expected I would be a corporate woman when I was younger. I think it was expected I would go into a STEM field just like my mom. I think though it did become pretty obvious to her early on that although I did well in math and sciences, It wasn't really my area of interest, so, you know, I, we have, there's some moments that I can remember where, like, she bought me this human anatomy model set that you had to, like, paint, you painted all the veins and then you, assembled the whole thing. I never even opened it. I never did, I never touched it. I was so uninterested and she was so disappointed. So disappointed and I still feel guilty and we're talking like 30 years later. I still feel that oh, you know, I never played with that thing. My mom done. Would it really killed me to just do the, know, uh, she's over it. I'm just have the hang up, you
Lynn:we carry those things with us and sometimes it's the unsaid expectations that weigh on us. heavier than the more explicit ones. as you were describing the anatomy toy, I was thinking of the game Operation and, how, that's, it sounds a little bit more fun than painting the anatomy piece, but I love that. so then, knowing you were expected to be this career woman and be successful in school and maybe eventually have a family, get married, etc. What was the first big way that you redrew your path from those expectations?
Carin:So I think of a context here is that my dad passed away when I was 20. So I was in college, my third year of college, not necessarily my junior year, just my third year. and my dad died. And so I think that, Like rocked my world and I was very lost after that happened because my dad and I were much closer than my mom and I and so I give that context because the I, I I transferred out of engineering. So I did go to school, started my school education, my university education as an engineering student. I then was like, nah, I just, I don't know. If somebody had just said, Carin, do you care how things work? I would have said no. And then they'd been like, then you're not an engineer. And we could have saved all of ourselves, a lot of time. But nobody asked me that question. So I ended up, transferring into an arts degree. And I, and then I ended up transferring to universities to be actually in the same town, but, to be a graphic design. So I bachelor of fine arts and graphic design is the degree that I ended up graduating with. And I think a fine arts degree was not what my mom had in mind for me or my dad. although he passed shortly after I transferred. So it was, he, I guess, didn't, I didn't have time to learn of his expectations, and I then went through that process. I had to go to school for a full four years, even though my last year I was a part time student both semesters. It just was the way the school was structured. And then instead of going into graphic design, I joined the Peace Corps. And I would say that was probably the first really big transition. And I, remember the conversation with my mom when I told her I was considering joining the Peace Corps or applying to the Peace Corps, I should say, because, you know, it's a long process. So I told her I was thinking about applying and she was immediately like, no, absolutely not. Like, why would you do this? This is not a good move, etc. And it took some time. some months and she came around to the idea a lot and was able to see a lot of value that I would get from the experience even though it was not at all what she wanted or expected me to do. So she came around to it. and I did end up being accepted and I did in fact serve in Peace Corps almost three and a half years. I was in Paraguay.
Lynn:That's awesome. and I appreciate you sharing both of those ways you redrew your path. so Just thinking about that moment where you had that aha, and I don't know, maybe it was like a gradual aha. Maybe it was you woke up in the middle of the night and you were like, I don't care how things work and are put together. But when you were making those decisions to stop being an engineering student and seek fine arts. What were the things going through your mind and what were the narratives you were having to rewrite for yourself?
Carin:not sure I could speak to that actually with the, the arts switch. I had also always been an artist and I think that we're we're told, you know, some, or there's this expectation that at 17, when we apply to college, we know what we want to do. And It's It's the most silly expectation that exists. so I think that me going into an art degree, although not what my parents may have wanted, it still was aligned for me because I was an artist throughout high school as well. but speaking directly to the Peace Corps, I think what I realized in my last semester of graphic design. Was that I actually don't like staring at a computer all day and that where I Thrive and enjoy is working with people. I've also throughout my childhood and high school I've always been a pretty heart centered person and been very concerned about the welfare of others you know, wanted to, just wanted to make a positive impact. And so when I learned about the Peace Corps, I talked recruiter at like a career fair or something, you know, and I I think I was just like, kinda disillusioned with graphic design and this idea that I was gonna have to go and be part of the, it was very idealistic, be part of the consumer machine and sell my soul and Even through college, my person who taught most of our graphic design classes, she knew that myself and some of our other, classmates, My classmates were very heart centered. We really wanted to use our skills for good versus perceived evil. I use the word perceived very intentionally, I It's just kind of a young, the perspective of a young person on the world. And We got to do a lot of projects for local non profit organizations. And knowing that, and having had that experience, and then seeing though, once you actually go into graphic design, what the early career opportunities are in that career field, was simply not something I wanted to do. And so when I saw this opportunity with the Peace Corps to make what I perceived as a positive impact in the world. And there's a lot of conversation, and that's not the topic of this particular podcast. I know you served in the Peace Corps, too.
Lynn:We could talk about it for days.
Carin:can talk about it. but you know, and the the young idealistic, and very American centric view I had of the world. I thought, Oh, I can go make this really positive impact. I can go help people and I can, I can do these things. And at the same time, not go after this graphic design thing that I felt like was going to be just me again, selling my soul. And then at the same time, knowing that back to that context that underneath it all, I was still at this point reeling from my dad dying. I think that all of that just kind of combined to me being like, this is what I want to go do. and I want to go make this impact. And I just want, I want nothing to do with the path that I've set up for myself
Lynn:Mm hmm. Mm hmm. It sounds like that loss of your father really catalyzed you moving towards something that was a little bit more in touch with what you needed and wanted and the impact you wanted to make on the world.
Carin:Yeah. Which is interesting now that you say that because I wonder, and there's no way to know, but I wonder what signals that I was getting from my father at the time about his expectations. it's been 22 years, almost 23 years. I've lived more of my life without my father than I have with. so, at this point, I can look back and see some things, but I, I wasn't analyzing. my relationship with my parents yet. And I've had so much time with my mom that I can speak very clearly to the relationship and her expectations for me and her hopes for me versus the only thing I remember really is that my dad wanted me to join the military.
Lynn:Mm
Carin:I guess it's hard for me to, to know specifically, but it makes me curious what subliminal messages I was getting from my my father's expectations.
Lynn:Yeah, that's interesting, and I think what I heard in there is we go through these different levels of consciousness throughout our lives, and especially as we get older, we spend more time in that analysis portion. but then also, it sounds like you were still very much figuring out what that path was for you and whether or not you were consciously thinking about how it related to, your father and his legacy and his leaving you, or your grief in that. There's no way to know, unless There's
Carin:There's no way to know.
Lynn:anything else you want to share about that way that you redrew your path at that point in your life?
Carin:I think the other thing that was attractive to me about the Peace Corps is that it was unique and adventurous and I felt like it would, I, I I didn't consciously think this, looking back and knowing myself much better now, I'm like, oh yeah, okay. That was just a pattern plan out um, wanting to be. seen and perceived a certain way. so, while it was an excellent decision for me, I was redrawing my path because I think the idea of the status quo the graduate, get a job, have a career, meet a partner, get married, have kids, looking at that as a path from when I was in middle school I swear, like, I ne I didn't want that at all. And so I think that I probably also sort of freaked out when I graduated. I think I was like, I'm not taking that path. And I was like, oh, look at this path. Look at that thing I could go do. That's way cooler than following this, like, societal norm, you know, that I saw my friends taking. And so I think that was also a big piece of it.
Lynn:yeah, it's the opposite of that other status quo path that you were fearing, whether or not it was a conscious fear, it was very much the opposite of that. thinking about like, okay, fast forward in your life, when was the second time you saw as redrawing your path?
Carin:Well, after the Peace Corps, I got my master's degree in international development. Inspired by my time in in service, I wanted to live abroad. I wanted to continue doing international development work. so I got my master's degree in it. And then my first role, I got hired on a federal contract to serve as a commander of a private carrier probe. serve, well, to serve, but to work as a trainer, a technical trainer for Peace Corps, Paraguay again. And it was really interesting because through grad school and through that experience, what I realized was most important to me was not necessarily the international component, but like the grassroots capacity building development. And what I saw is that I could do that internationally. And there's degrees for that. I can also do that domestically. And so I went to school in Denver and I loved Denver. And after being abroad again, I decided to move into the nonprofit sector. So it's not a total transition of a path, but it is, well, the work I did was a total transition, but It was me going from thinking, like, okay, I'm going to live internationally, I'm going to live abroad, it's a sexy career, it's going to be great, to being like, actually, I just want to serve. The community I live in, wherever that may end up being. so I I moved back to Denver. I found a role. This is a definite as far as career focus goes. I was in career development. And so I was uh, customer service and bank teller trainer and career coach,
Lynn:Oh, wow.
Carin:is stuff that I had never done before. I had training experience, adult education, but I had never worked in that area at all. And so it was a workforce development program as well in the Denver community. and I got to work with like multicultural classes of people class. I mean, like groups that were in the class. That's and that I would say that Is really foundational to what I do now.
Lynn:Yeah.
Carin:you know, that happened to just be the role that I was hired for first and also brought me to this place. I could have never guessed that I would go to it highlighted skills and talents I had that I would have never known that I had, turns out I'm really good at helping people with a resume. I was there for four years. and we had, six classes of like eight to 15 people every six weeks and or every eight weeks, I should say a new class started. And so that's a lot of people. That's a lot of resumes over the course of four years. And I found that I was just really easy. skilled at this world of career coaching and career development and training. And so I, you know, I've worked in those capacities in different fields because I definitely have bounced around fields, it always comes back to those core skills of training, coaching, adult education, training development and, and a lot of career stuff.
Lynn:Well, and it's interesting because think if if I'm a person that Let's say works in the corporate marketing world, I might be hearing you and think that doesn't sound like a big shift. However, I think you and I have had very like parallel paths. So I definitely understand the huge difference between you think you're going down this path of international development. That looks a very specific way,
Carin:Mm hmm. Yeah,
Lynn:But then that realization of, Oh, it's actually grassroots capacity building and community development that I'm passionate about. So making that choice and then through that work, discovering your strengths and, and then you are still using those strengths every day today. it sounds like. It was a self reinforcing cycle of you made this decision and then the amount you've learned and the reward you were getting over that time. Was reinforcing of like, yes, this is my right path. Does that sound right?
Carin:does. I, I think when I think about career coaching, I think about transferable skills, but those, so from there I joined the Peace Corps again, but I was as a Peace Corps response, I should say. And I did program evaluation for an education and training program in the environmental sector, but it was program evaluation. So I had done programming Non profit programming, not, uh, computer programming. And from there, you know, I worked, I moved to Milwaukee. I worked in a youth development program, but doing nonprofit program development training. project management of training programs and adult education, it's like the same exact skill set underneath everything that I've just applied to different fields, um, sort of becoming, you know, like, it's like being to put it in different context. That's not nonprofit language. It's, um, like being a subject matter expert, like you have your underlying skill set, and then you use that maybe to be a subject matter expert in one program. area, but then you kind of get transitioned over to a different department, but suddenly you become a subject matter expert in a different area, but you're still using the same underlying skill set to put it in more corporate terms.
Lynn:I love that. That translated it. I already knew what you were talking about, but it translated it for other brains out there as well. is there anything you want to share about, when you were going through that transition, like any thoughts that were coming up in your mind, narratives you were rewriting or anything like that?
Carin:I really didn't feel like I was doing something status quo. I really felt like I was doing something out of the norm, and whether I was or not, you know, I'm like, well, a lot of people take that path. It doesn't actually sound that interesting, but I can tell you that at this point, like talking with my mom, like she's super proud of me. And I told her once recently, I said, you know, the nonprofit sector, the pay is lower And then you get to your forties and you're like, Oh, retirement, you know? And so I'm like, man, I should have just gone into corporate. I should have just like sucked it up, gone into corporate. And just, like, made a bunch of money, which I know sounds antithetical to everything I've said about myself at this point, but I think sometimes we lose some of that once, we're like, oh yeah, this is what it means to live and all of the things. and my mom just said to me, she said, Something along the lines of, but you couldn't do that because it's too important to you to be making a positive impact on your community. She's like, you wouldn't, you couldn't do that. That wasn't a path that was ever going to work for you. And the fact that that I I didn't do that, that I took a different path, that I followed that pursuit of working in my community and, and supporting people and, and like really getting out of my. Small town box, and like what I had been taught growing up, and learning different paradigms of the world and, different ways that people live and how resilient people are, I think, I think I just, I took such a different path from anything I could have ever even designed for myself, if you had asked me to, and it was more to overcome what I Thought I was supposed to do, overcoming shoulds, overcoming, and it's all mental, I'm just mentally overcoming these things and moving forward and doing something that draws me in. And I, I think that that's really powerful because I think so much of what we find ourselves doing at some point, I think this is the midlife crisis, is like, we're like, wait, most of what I've done in my life has been a should. has been based on somebody else's expectation of me, somebody else's thoughts, and like, when do I get to do what I want to do? So when people say midlife crisis, I'm like, it's more like a midlife reckoning. It's just like a midlife wake up of like, why am I here? I haven't done anything that I wanted to do, and most of the things I do, I actually am not even, I'm not excited by at all.
Lynn:Wow.
Carin:Anyway, that's all I have to say, just that I think, overcoming shoulds is a big one. And I still have to overcome shoulds all the time. It's not like they're just gone.
Lynn:yeah. yeah. I mean, it's so hard. I remember the first time I heard the phrase, you have to stop shoulding on yourself. And I was like,
Carin:Hmm. I
Lynn:okay, now that I know this phrase, it's going to be so much easier to stop shoulding on myself. And I'm shoulding on myself every day, you know, and It's hard to shed that. And I know you like, Oh, it's just working through the mental piece and that's so hard.
Carin:just, just that. It's not a big deal. It's just that.
Lynn:it is really tough. and and it's brave. It is, it is brave to be able to say. You know, like, I see something else for myself, and I'm not quite there yet, and I'm going to make the shifts to get there or get closer to where I want to be. Like, I, Carin, or I, Lynn, want to be. so with that said, you know, there a midlife reckoning that you want to talk about? Is there a third way that you redrew your path that feels like it's been really big for you?
Carin:yeah, my midlife reckoning has been Shedding huge aspects of what I considered my personality. Midlife Reckoning was an identity crisis, and it was really a painful few years. This is pretty recently over the past five years, and, it was letting go. of having so much concern for what everybody else thinks. And I think, and I'm not, it's not, I'm not, please listeners, I'm not like here saying like, I'm totally a hundred percent, it's not like that yet. Growth mindset. Um, but. It is, I think outside affirmation has always been something that has really motivated me in life and gotten me through, and I've relied on that. then I I found myself in a role where I was not getting that affirmation. And in fact, it felt like Every day was a struggle and after a couple years, I was like, maybe this is what they mean when they say it's not a fit. And I was, meanwhile, I'm just like, I don't even know who I am. You know, I was in a new city and like, no friends. I didn't feel like I belonged at my job. I was just, and I'd gotten so much meaning out of work. I mean identity and affirmation out of my job that I just like, suddenly was like crumbling. And it took a few years to come around to this idea that like, the path that is more aligned for me is entrepreneurship. And I never was the person who was like, I'm going to start a business. I never, in fact, for years, my husband was the one who was going to start the business. he did. I mean, while I was working, he was building a business. He spent a year and a half just focused on a business. And, As time went on, I realized, I was like, no, I want that lifestyle. Like, that's what I'm looking for. I want to create my thing. I want to create a community. there's so much I can do and help. I can still make that positive impact. I don't have to work for a non profit to do it. I can create my business and I can have, financial security and I can make a huge impact helping people and and through their own personal challenges. And what's really important to me, what lights me up is exactly that is, is working with folks one on one or in small groups and is Helping them see, just like elevating that part inside of them that already exists, but maybe they've buried, maybe they're not fully accessing or bringing out and helping them access it and bring it to the surface so that they feel really good about themselves and their path and that they are not living in other people's expectations and helping them through that process. Because I think about it, I was like, man, if I had a coach that had been helping me through some of this, would have been a little bit easier. Training. I love training. I love putting together a training and leading a training, even online. I love it. I, afterwards I am so It's like, I know some people, it just like drains them. For me, I'm like hype. Like after I finish a training, I am just like, ah, you know? And so I just like, so excited. And so I think. Leaving my job without another something else lined up to go full time into entrepreneurship was me saying, it's time to do. What I want to do and creating a business from scratch and like learning and marketing, cause that's a whole new skill set. you know, trying to figure out my language and my copy and like, well, what do I do and who do I help? And it's like learning all these new skill sets, but at the same time, it's just so aligned for me. It just feels, it feels good. And so that's brings us to now and that's the path that I am currently on recently redrawn, but about a year and a half ago, just fully left W2 employment. Doesn't mean I'll never go back, but that's where I'm at now.
Lynn:I love that. I love that. And I heard the shift in your energy. Like I heard the excitement in your voice. And that to me is really inspiring. so does that mean there hasn't been any fear, self doubt, anything like that along the way?
Carin:Oh, gosh, no. I mean, gosh, I swear, there's fear every single day, but I'm so easily able to look back still at my former role and just feel like, gosh, that's what a bad fit felt like, that's what not living in alignment felt like, and living, I know what, what living in alignment feels like now, and I, I. It, so yeah, there's fear, but it's, it's just a matter of moving forward imperfectly committing to experimentation and trusting myself, that's, it's like as long as I trust myself, which I do, and I just keep, it's like, you lived in Colorado, it's 14er, which is a 14, 000 foot mountain, for those who don't know,
Lynn:I never did. I wasn't a true Coloradan, because I get,
Carin:okay now.
Lynn:get elevation sickness at 9, 000 feet. This is how sensitive I am, so glad I realized that about myself very early on.
Carin:But you just like when you climb a mountain, you just keep putting one foot in front of the other like you don't It's just about keep putting one foot in front of the other, stop when you need to, rest when you need to, listen to your body, and as you do that, that's how you build, that's how you get to the top. There's no other way to get to the top. So, in business, yeah, there's a ton of fear, and there's a ton of like self questioning. I'm like, is this even gonna work? Does anybody care? Like, what if it doesn't work? And it's like, well, just do it. And if it doesn't work, then try something new. Experiment, figure it out, you know? And so I think how I get through that, I don't know if that's the next question, is like commitment to self, commitment to my, to self. And when I, if I ever feel just like, oh, I just can't, I always just reach out to my clients. I just do a quick check in. I send them a Voxer message. I'm like, hey, I just wanted to check in because that always, always changes and shifts my energy or my belief in what I'm doing. fear every day, just move, I just move forward anyway. Just ignore it, honestly.
Lynn:yeah, like move through
Carin:That's not helpful. Yeah, move forward. That's not a help. That's not helpful advice.
Lynn:but it's not no it sounds to me. It's really helpful advice because it's, you know, instead of letting that fear stop you and block your path, you're moving through that fear. And even when you get to the other end of that fear, things might look different than you imagine, but you've still worked through it. built your confidence. And then also the other piece of advice you gave was listen to yourself and get in tune there. so I want to ask you a question that was not on the list, but I am just curious before we start to wrap up, but when you think back to that college student that you were, What would they be thinking about if they could see you now?
Carin:How'd you get there? What are you doing? I think that that college student would have been, would be really surprised. Really surprised. I think that she would have maybe also, though, felt a little relieved to know that all these seemingly weighty decisions are just actually not that important like you figure it out, you figure life out and that what you decide that degree is going to be. You know what, you might use it, you might not, just having the bachelors still is, means something in this world, if you, that there's a, she'd be like, wow, I didn't even know that was an option, I didn't even know that existed, all those things I had, she, like, she would just be surprised. Cause she probably also thought she understood the world. And so, uh, she'd probably be pretty surprised that there was so much, there's so many options out there that she doesn't even realize exist. And she would also probably be pretty surprised about what she learned about herself in the process and like her personality and how she was engaging and interacting with the world at that, that how she was doing it at that time isn't, wasn't, didn't actually feel authentic. Because it was so hidden. That inauthenticity was actually so hidden you know, she would be like, what do you mean? I'm not authentic.
Lynn:I love that. But she sees your authenticity now and she sees you.
Carin:be like, wow, you feel like, you seem like you're at peace. How did you find that? I'd be like, yeah, I feel more at peace than I ever have in my entire life. And. This is how I found it. Through a lot of life.
Lynn:I love that. I love that. I don't know if it's been therapeutic for you. And the goal wasn't that it was, but it's been therapeutic for me. I appreciate you.
Carin:Thank you, Lynn.
Lynn:Yeah, thank you. I'm curious. Can you share where people can find you? And is there anything you would want to promote with listeners?
Carin:Yeah, absolutely. So I am primarily and predominantly on LinkedIn, so you can find me at Carin Paupore. I think I'm the only one still. So, uh, easy to find. And, one of the things, one of my top things, I'm all about helping women bring badassery into their leadership. That's something that you already have inside of you we all have inside of us that we don't always unleash and we don't always allow to like fully to just fully live into it. And so my whole goal is to help women. understand what their badassery is and how to bring that into their leadership. And so one of the ways, things that I offer is a complimentary leadership audit. So this is a call where it's a 60 minute call where we can, first of all, get really clear on who's the leader that you want to be. Because a lot of times we get into leadership roles or even A new organization. And we kind of lose sight of what's important to us and who we want to be. So the first thing we do is get really clear on who you want to be. What is the leadership style you want to promote? What are your leadership values? From there, we look at what might be getting in the way of that. Because what we, we always start with really good intentions and high expectations for ourselves. And then things get in the way, like. small interactions and our brain might start taking over and we start negative self talk and we can really undermine ourselves. So we dive into what might be getting in the way of showing up like that leader you want to be. And then we talk through a few strategies that you can use in order to bring your badassery, elevate that, bring it into your leadership and really unleash it so that you are. Leading confidently, powerfully, and exactly how you want to be and really overcoming the challenges in your workplace. And so that is an offering that I love to offer. I love these calls. And if you hear that, just connect with me on LinkedIn. Say you heard me on this podcast and we can get you set up with a time.
Lynn:I love that. I love that. And I've gone through one of your challenges and even just when we see each other IRL and grab I always feel like more of a badass after and it helps me to step into my leadership power. So just a plug there for reaching out to Carin. thank you so much for joining us today on Redraw Your Path and I'll include your information in the show notes and I look forward to talking with you soon.
Carin:Thank you so much. Appreciate you.
Lynn:Hey, thanks for listening to Redraw Your Path with me Lynn Debilzen, If you liked the episode, please share and subscribe. That helps more listeners find me. And don't be shy, reach out and connect with me on LinkedIn. I would love to know what resonated with you. Can't wait to share more inspiring stories with you. See you next week.