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Sean & Charlie Kady Season 1 Episode 12

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Join Charlie and Sean, along with their special guests - two renowned artists and hosts of the popular Disciplined Stoners podcast - as we embark on a captivating journey through the vibrant cannabis community. From mastering the art of rolling the perfect joint to exploring the intersection of art and cannabis consumption, we leave no stone unturned.

Ever wondered why society discourages the expression of emotions? Join us as we unravel this perplexing conundrum, delving into the taboo surrounding therapy and the delicate balance between managing our emotions and fulfilling life's demands. But that's not all; we'll also delve into the transformative power of smiles, unlocking the gateway to mindfulness. And as we engage in these thought-provoking conversations, we'll also reveal our favorite pizza toppings and share unforgettable encounters with legendary figures in the cannabis world.

Life's unexpected surprises are always waiting around the corner, and we've had our fair share. From chance encounters with cannabis icons while running errands to those unforgettable moments that leave us on cloud nine, get ready for some exhilarating highs. And as if that wasn't enough, we'll also explore the physical benefits of cannabis, from personal growth to achieving fitness goals. Brace yourself for a rollercoaster ride filled with laughter, profound insights, and raw, unfiltered moments that you simply can't afford to miss.

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Artists in a HigherOrbit

Sean Kady

Hi, I'm Sean and I'm Charlie, and this is higher orbit.

Ellevan

Higher than your shit on higher orbit? Yeah, of course it's.

Sean Kady

Show tonight we got a lot of firsts is our first Collaboration with another podcast, that's for fucking sure. Yeah, um, two very special friends. They're artists First and foremost. I would say Comedians and musicians rights. Yeah, writers, they do a lot of dough shit, writers cooking cooking, cooking show Creators to the list goes on the Gateway to mindfulness. There also the drug the Gateway drug to mindfulness. With us tonight, the discipline stoners.

Ellevan

That was so.

Sean Kady

Artist first right.

Ellevan

Yes you know, that you're so perceptive. Thank you, guys.

Sean Kady

It's beautiful.

Ellevan

I'm so happy to see it like. Fucking becomes so high class and quality Immediately, like in the flesh. You mean, oh for sure in the flesh, but just like when our podcast started. It was good as fuck.

Ellevan

Taped up, mike stand with a mic, I used to grind it out in in the tractors and the logic on our table that I found outside the library and and you have be like, I'm just like the fact that you're like a cannabis leaning podcast. It's you too, sweethearts, and it's like looking Quality. I feel so proud of happy.

Sean Kady

That's the beautiful thing about a playing so right because, regardless of the content's fucking sick. It can be on like a tin can in like someone's basement and you know, as long as the content's second you guys make good content it really doesn't fucking matter, right.

Ellevan

Yeah, yeah, true, true, well said, absolutely.

Sean Kady

I mean, we're still standing and you kept drawing and learning. So I know as you know, as we and I feel like it feels so nice to have you like we have a podcast now, which is where the last time I was on that was the first podcast I ever did with you guys, so 111 it was very magical and that's a very magical name in our world. Roughly a year ago my son wasn't born or remember that much, so it feels like really full circle and it's so nice to like return the favor.

Sean Kady

No, I appreciate you, thank you for agreeing to be on the show, because yes, you know, Feel like why got that warm fuzzy feeling?

Ellevan

inside we definitely we resonated on a beautiful, harmonious frequency together. I appreciate you.

Sean Kady

Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, charlie, did you have something to say? I felt like you know, no, no, I enjoyed that. That side is. It's exciting to have them both. You know I know that had a big day. It's big. You know, summer is huge, kind, there's all kinds of stuff going on, so it's big to be in the cannabis community and you guys are big in the cannabis community and, yes, that brings me to I think my producer is pulling out. I remember you guys remember you offered me we had like some delicious kombucha.

Ellevan

We drink kombucha all the time.

Sean Kady

Your reaction to it filled the heart with so much love, and I know you guys get down. We have this regular the store, charlie, maybe you can speak a little bit more to the product. It's actually like a kefir. Yeah, it's a kefir water, so it's Her company's. Beyond biome, three natural flavors. We actually traded store credit for this, so I love that part.

Ellevan

It's even sweeter. Let me smell this. So yeah, here take a look, charlie, which is supposed to be more.

Sean Kady

It's essentially more bio available. Right, look at that. Vitamin C and amino acids. Yeah, she uses all kinds of different Sex. Are we just swinging a moment? Are we have cops, or what are we doing?

Ellevan

You have the east west. Do you know what these flavors?

Sean Kady

are. Yeah, you have the east west crush. That's the east west crush. I anti-inflammatory antioxidant. It's got like hascaps, ascotun berries, rubo ice. I can never say that we're talk of being that was a key one. Perfectly bitter, yeah, it's kind of dry I'm supposed to be uh.

Ellevan

I like that shit. That's money.

Sean Kady

I haven't tried it, yet I'm uh.

Ellevan

Yeah, it's good. Yeah, that got some life in it. I got some culture in it.

Sean Kady

It does have culture, I do. I do have a little bit of ABV like alcohol by whatever, yeah, like 3%. I'm not mad at that.

Charlie Kady

Okay.

Sean Kady

The uber machine going off. That's funny.

Ellevan

Yeah, why? What's happening? Are you ordering over, oh?

Sean Kady

you're in, the store is open. We actually had a record day for a monday on delivery. Yay, always good news. But that that little noise like we have nightmares about that I'm sure like.

Ellevan

Okay, the fact it's a podcast In the back of a weed shop is one of my that's that's a great favorite thing.

Sean Kady

Right, that's a good idea. You guys have done a podcast where you did a podcast from poses challenges, isn't it?

Ellevan

We did. Well, yeah, we, I think, sticking next Sam and them, jackie Chowd's I think they were the first ones to do it, that I saw do it and then I was like I'm gonna do that. And then I just did a cover of their store because I wanted to see if I could build an episode around a retail space. Fine, like essentially to offer that To like like retail chains or whatever, but as like a coverage piece. But then I'm like can I simultaneously make this authentic by talking to a bud tender and getting the real experience and seeing what they know and and they're friends of ours.

Ellevan

So it was very natural because we live like right next to the block and we, you know, we, we stroll up here to Queen Street. We live before you are there. They're literally right like next door. So I do go and hang out there quite a bit. Um, just like we stroll up here and magical shit happens sometimes. But yeah, I love, I love visiting retailers. We were just a peter bro promoting a show and we just stopped and did a bunch of retailers and meant bud tenders and shen, just so cool they show you guys love too, I imagine, right as like retailers.

Sean Kady

Oh, they do yeah it's like they probably know some of your audience. I love you guys.

Ellevan

Yeah, we walked into, uh, like a bunch of stores and like what are. Like I was like what do they know you? And I'm like that's.

Sean Kady

That's cool.

Ellevan

That's amazing. It means that like we're resonating with the community and then ones that don't know you, uh, you like just like I let's talk about weed then for a minute, and then you just like geek out about weed and then you end up just kind of wanting to connect anyway. So we like we just get each other on instagram a follow back, all the bud tenders like right away, and like is like y'all Are the community, like in the voice of reason in the marketplace for people who are new to cannabis, and like why the legal market is important. So, yeah, it's really cool, like visiting and I love seeing that people really fucking care.

Rip Tip Call in with Bradley Gordon

Sean Kady

Let me make his care. Do you find people more interested in like music I know this is weird to ask, but like comedy or weed or mindfulness, on the like broader kind of general? Yeah, you guys get asked my friends in your audience and from like, yeah, what is a discipline stoner? I kind of wanted to back the truck up once there for everybody that doesn't know. Yes, sir, I feel like give us like the quick. Do you want me to read the thing?

Ellevan

Oh, yeah, we you know, yeah, I love this.

Sean Kady

Thank you for this question because I'm sure you get asked all the time, but I just figured I don't know.

Winny Clarke

Let's touch on it yeah, when he'll find like our.

Sean Kady

Yes, this feel mission statements, because I got it right away and that's why I was honored to be on your show and you guys asked me. I was like holy shit, I am a discipline stoner, I have informed lots of disciplines on many levels and uh Well, there's a lot of mindfulness. I think that goes into um your show and what you create and the juju you put out there.

Ellevan

Yeah, okay, so a discipline stoner, like quickly, just on the whole, if you will, as I find this thing, what is this one stoner just finding Is, uh, number four, one who uses the plant to elevate their disciplines and creativity. Yes, number three, an honest individual that can check in with themselves about their relationship with cannabis and other plant medicines. Number two, a cannabis consumer that uses the plant in conjunction with activities that are beneficial Mind, body, spirit to the individual. And number one is someone commit it to their work and time it become to the work and time it Takes to become a master of their craft. Yeah, so one who, like the disciplined aspect, is like your discipline, like kung fu's a discipline. Being an engineer to discipline growing weed is a discipline. Whatever you work.

Sean Kady

Anything is a discipline, I think, isn't it?

Charlie Kady

I think like yeah you won't always want any better rolling.

Sean Kady

Oh, right so rolling.

Charlie Kady

I want you to hold that thought yeah, roll something up.

Sean Kady

We're gonna, we're doing a special giveaway with Rip Tip. I love the crush grinders too we're calling in to our friend Uh the creative, creative science or the gordo scientific, our boys, bradley Gordon. Uh, he's calling in from, uh, colorado. Actually, let's go. So it's actually a first. So our first uh times times. Yes, let's see if we can get him on the phone.

Ellevan

Say it's such a good idea, hey.

Sean Kady

Bradley, how's it going, good man, how you doing this evening.

Charlie Kady

Welcome to higher orbit. Thank you very much. My pleasure, but you're happy.

Sean Kady

Yeah, how are things in colorado, how it's going on down there, brother.

Charlie Kady

Oh, not much, they mold. Getting hot for the summer down here. That's amazing.

Sean Kady

Well, we're really excited to have you on the show. You're our first calling guest ever. Uh, I really appreciate you calling. And we have um with us, the disciplined stoners. They're uh, they're another, it's like, uh, other podcasters and our friend 11 is actually using one of your rip tips right now. I was just explaining to him that we're um, we're giving away, uh, a number of rip tips to some of our our listeners to you?

Charlie Kady

I don't know, so that's part of our giveaway. Is anybody who's listening?

Sean Kady

Um, send us a question, whether it be about the rip tip or about higher orbit, and if we pick your question and answer it on the show, we're going to give you a rip tip. It's as simple as that.

Winny Clarke

That's great.

Sean Kady

Yeah, what do you do with this brother?

Winny Clarke

This is uh.

Charlie Kady

Charlie shawnd's brother, those of us who don't know what a rip tip is, bradley?

Sean Kady

Uh, you want to just let us know.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, so uh, basically, the rip tip is a reusable, more delicate glass, rolling tip um With a nine, a unique nine fold pattern that allows for better airflow, a more even burn and enhanced flavor.

Sean Kady

I think you nailed it right there, dude. I mean, I've had an opportunity to try one of these things and like it really like levels up your smoking game. For those that don't know, uh, I feel like we've noticed as a trend I don't, I don't know in colorado, uh, but like a lot more pre rules come with tips Obviously not as nice as the rip tip, but a lot more ceramic tips and a lot more like um Tips are coming with pre rules. Do you notice that in colorado?

Charlie Kady

Yeah, we are noticing that in colorado as well.

Sean Kady

And I think there's like a luxuriousness of using a rip tip, wouldn't you say, bradley?

Charlie Kady

I would absolutely. Yeah, I mean just the feel, uh, compared to a paper crush. Adding a little bit of weight to that, uh, to that roll, definitely does make it seem a little more luxurious.

Sean Kady

Yeah, I just really agree and it gives you a chance, like I think, these days, if you're a really heady person, like I saw, you guys have so many colors. You have, like the sickest, like I think we have, uh, a UFO green that kind of like resonated more with the cosmic charlie's color, so we got some of those and and some more classic greens 11's is rolling up right now.

Ellevan

He's never used. It's amazing. It smells so fucking good.

Sean Kady

We're just rolling up, uh to, to keep you in the loop there, braver, rolling up some ice cream cake times, jealousy. Uh, a friend of ours gave us some c junky genetics. They grew out, and so that is um, I can't wait to try it. We're rolling up with credible I'm gonna take one of these buds.

Ellevan

Is that okay yeah? Yeah, I'll give you some joints and return.

Sean Kady

I just hate these parties, I guess let us know what's, what's going on with the Colorado scene right now. How are, how do you perceive that, going like the legal market?

Charlie Kady

Um, it's, it's uh interesting right now. Prices are down quite a lot right now throughout Colorado. Okay, um, and that's kind of showing on the retail side of things too Interesting. You know, hash prices of grams of hash have come down dramatically in the last like year, so like rosin like you mean, are the live rosin?

Sean Kady

Yes, you know Like and what we're kind of price drop talking here, like from like that 80 to 100 dollars, some more like the 50, 60 bucks or Um even lower than that. Really.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, we're getting into like the 30 dollar grams of creamy rosin for sure.

Sean Kady

Wow, that's pretty crazy man. Do you guys see like Like you're a more developed market? In Colorado than we are here in canada and I guess I'm Do you see like I'm assuming the green market so thriving and stuff like that.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, I mean, uh, the gray market's having a difficult time too, because the prices Are so low and the regulator market are we. Yeah, exactly Any part. You know, we found that anytime that the regulated market is inflated, that's when the gray market does really well.

Sean Kady

Yeah, totally, man, I agree with you Interesting. Well, back to the rip tip man. We're super excited to have him in Canada. Um, we're looking at bringing him in here. Um, we really appreciate you teaming up with us to do this giveaway. And, um, absolutely, I had a question with you about the sizes. So, like what is the difference between all the different sizes? And like how would you pick if I'm buying a rip tip? Like how would I pick the sizes right for me?

Charlie Kady

Sure. So the sizes that is going to be directly correlated with the amount of material that you can put into it. Okay, you know you're not. You're not going to want to take a set of size seven and try to drop these brands into it. It's just not going to work too well, okay, so and that was one of the things that we found was missing the glass rolling tip. Our kid Laura was uh, uh, ability to pick a different size based on, uh, what you want to roll up Totally.

Sean Kady

So it's an air flow in mind. So keeping air flow in mind always, I guess first is what you're saying when you're rolling and what size of joint you want to roll up.

Charlie Kady

So we keep that same function. Uh, even when we have to uh, you know make the tip a little bit smaller for that size, it's still going to have to stick to the function as well.

Sean Kady

Ah, okay, okay, what size do you use personally?

Charlie Kady

I personally like to use a size 11 with about two to two and a half grams.

Sean Kady

Okay Damn, I like it. Did you do a little hash one? I want to see. I want to see how he's going to roll this. Do you find that like uh? I noticed a lot of people use rich tips with the, with the hash wall. Is that like uh? I recommended, I guess, on a bigger size too, it's, it makes it nicer right.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, Absolutely yeah. I would definitely like kind of the size 11 or 12 for a half full 11. But yeah, we have a lot of people using the rip tip with their hash wall.

Sean Kady

We, you know all right, that's amazing. I'm going to order some size 11s, uh, and get back to you. Man, I'm going to roll up a big hacker with a hash wall and uh and let you know, let you know how it goes Bradley Um 11, how's it going, man Are you almost out rolling one up with the rip tip. I want to see this, how this construction works.

Ellevan

Oh yeah, that's right. I, I, I started rolling this show.

Sean Kady

They started rolling up with a regular filter.

Ellevan

It must have been habit, it's just, I forgot my glass revolver with us. I was like sick. Yeah, we wanted, I wanted to.

Sean Kady

it looked like a revamp, very cool, and I wanted, your like, to give a Gordon your reaction to the Bradley story, your reaction to rolling up this sucker man. So I wanted to like give the user experience of what that's like, you know, yeah.

Charlie Kady

There is a learning curve. Do you have any?

Sean Kady

like pointers for for 11 years.

Charlie Kady

Um, yeah, so um for rolling the tip. You know, if you're not competent in traditional rolling, you can always wrap the paper around the rip tip and stuff it like um, so that's something that people don't really like.

Winny Clarke

Oh, I like that way.

Sean Kady

That's a great piece.

Charlie Kady

I mean, we have a lot of customers who are a little bit uh, they're not competent in their rolling ability. They don't really want some of the money just to person that they're going to be able to use. So we found that, wrapping the paper around the tip and stuffing it like a cone, that's what it helps until you can kind of learn how to roll with it.

Ellevan

Got a roll with it. Got a roll with it, yeah, you just got to you go for it.

Sean Kady

Yeah, you got it, that's awesome, man.

Charlie Kady

Well, I think it's like.

Sean Kady

I think it take. If you really want to take your, your rolling game to the next level and you like a proper air flow in your joints and you like gunky lips and stuff like that, I highly recommend you get yourself a rip tip. That's what I have to say. I have nothing but good experiences with them. Um, and keep doing what you're doing, man. I had one question for you. I know that, like the, the legend of the rip tip is that it was like you're using parts that glass artists were like throwing away right Essentially, yeah.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, um, that's, that's, you're right. So back in 2018, when we came out with the rip tip, we originally started just cutting a graph from other products that we have these art caps that we were mitigating with the multi-core tube and anything that was out of tolerance we just simply couldn't use. But we found a way to to reuse that graph with the rip tip and that was how they really got the first start kind of around around our crew here in Denver.

Sean Kady

See, that's really dope 11 just rolled one up I. You did a good job, my friend. Thanks, buddy, I think that's a that's a commendable effort. We'll have to. Uh, I'm going to put it up so that when this airs, I know that Gordon.

Ellevan

Bradley visualized this. This is what the joint is like Ready, ready. Visualized you with me you can imagine visit sex Like, just visualize sex in any capacity. It's like that.

Sean Kady

You did a good job, man. He's your host. Well, definitely have to have you by the shop, for sure.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, man, If you ever come to Toronto dude, please do let us know.

Sean Kady

And, uh, I'm hoping I can come on to do Rocky Colorado and pay you a visit sometime too. I'd really like to uh, come see, check out what the dank scene is like. I heard really good things about it.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, please look at me.

Sean Kady

Dr Colorado. Thank you so much, man. Thank you for being our first ever calling guest. Uh, we couldn't appreciate you more, and uh, well, you'll see what 11's joint turned out like on the YouTube when we posted it. Congrats, all right.

Charlie Kady

I'm excited, Thanks for having me and uh, yeah, I'm going to put it guys. Thank you so much.

Sean Kady

Yeah, it was very good to know you. Yeah, thanks, thanks, dude.

Charlie Kady

Rockton guys.

Ellevan

Bye.

Sean Kady

That's cool, dude. That was great. What did you think? I know that was like we, we had to get it.

Ellevan

It was super easy. It was super easy. Did you try to pull?

Sean Kady

this baby? No, should we get to it? Wait, wait, wait. We can't smoke right here, unfortunately. Okay, let's cut it and we're really back. We're the Disciplines Donors. Yeah, yeah, welcome back. We're here with our friends, the Disciplines Donors. Where did we land on that pizza? Where do we land on the pizza? Yeah, we, we, we're back, we're back, we're back worse.

Charlie Kady

We're going to smoke to the Gary state.

Ellevan

And that's why we're all over the place.

Sean Kady

That's why we're all over the place.

Winny Clarke

Thanks, we will definitely order a pizza we will definitely order a pizza, thanks to our friends at the Rift Tip.

Sean Kady

You can follow them at the Rift Tip and our friend, uh uh, bradley Gordon at Gordon Scientific. Follow him and don't forget, send us in, uh, your questions. You want to hear them. We're going to pick out five winners and give away five Rift Tips. So that's the end of that. Back to you guys and you're all the dope shit that you're doing.

Winny Clarke

That's a fun sound.

Ellevan

That was a cool sound, yeah. I was just thinking so yeah, now we're back.

Sean Kady

Now we're back. Shop is closed. Shop is closed. Is that the sound when the shop?

Ellevan

closed After hours, baby yeah.

Sean Kady

The pizza is on the way as 11 is said tell me what? What's your go-to pizza? We didn't finish that conversation really quickly. It's got to depend, but it always depends. Not the Brooklyn, okay, yeah, but what about toppings yo?

Ellevan

Oh, on top of it I like anchovy with the spinach and the feta, all like the the trill ass um sun-dried tomatoes, like the special vegetarian ones, trill ass.

Sean Kady

With anchovies, though no, no did?

Ellevan

I say anchovies, I meant artichoke hearts. Oh, that sounds good. Let me play you a part. Oh man, come on.

Charlie Kady

My name is Alan. This is your new song.

Sean Kady

This is me Wow.

Ellevan

Yeah.

Sean Kady

That's the end of the book. Yeah, that's hard. Thank you, here it is coming.

Ellevan

I'm coming strong. I'm coming with something that I better be solid. I'm a fucking bitch.

Sean Kady

I'm a fucking bitch. So what was the process like on this man? I listened to it today and I was like, yeah, I'm just not a musical person and that's not in my realm of expertise.

Ellevan

So how does that? How does that? How does that come about? How did this thing get going? Oh, cool question. Thank you for playing that, by the way. Much love we, the best out now Stream it. My longtime producer, fat sound, was over and he airdropped me to my computer a bunch of beats, as he does, and I played this one and I immediately like got the imagery from like the synesthetic perspective that I do when I receive the song and I just like plugged the right into logic and like with the boys in the room, like I airdrop box the link so they could play it on their phone and they could write in their phones because you can take some time to write their verses. And then I just like pretty much that verse was like pretty much freestyle and I just figured out that that little hook, but like it happened so fast, it was like five minutes and like recorded it.

Sean Kady

Do you get together with your people when you're making this stuff, or you all do it just separately and then it kind of like comes together, like obviously you're talking and communicating through the process, but or do you get together or does it just depends on the person that you're working with.

Ellevan

Yeah, it depends with what the producer is, but like he came prepared, like he always comes prepared with like. He has a little folder and a couple producers that work with me have like 11 inspired type folders that like when they make a beat they think that I would go with they put it in there and then next time they see me they're like here, kill this, and then I spit him out quick.

Sean Kady

There you go. Yeah, does this one feel different, like every time that you put it in a song? Does it feel a little bit?

Ellevan

different. Yeah, this one feels stronger, like I received that information so clearly and it resonated authentically with my personality and my history as a person of like strong work ethic. It just felt like it was something I had right to speak on and the beat just gave me the way to say it.

Sean Kady

I love that Well said man, thank you, you seem in a very good mood. You usually like a piece of that You're like it's fucking out, it's in the world.

Ellevan

Yeah, it's always nice to birth something creative. It's so fulfilling. It's like, as you said, artists first. You know that.

Sean Kady

Yes, yes, yeah.

Ellevan

I'm waiting.

Sean Kady

How's it going over there?

Winny Clarke

Feeling good.

Sean Kady

Good Sean. How you doing.

Winny Clarke

Good, we had a great day. This is a great Toronto Weave Day.

Sean Kady

Yeah, I feel like, what were you guys up to today?

Winny Clarke

We well we both did a little content creation in the morning.

Sean Kady

Okay is that like a routine. Is that part of the discipline?

Winny Clarke

I mean it's part of his discipline. Honestly, I'm still working on that aspect. I think content creation is so hard Okay does that like help?

Sean Kady

does 11 help? Try, I have to agree.

Winny Clarke

Oh my gosh, absolutely 100%.

Sean Kady

Yeah, I have to agree.

Winny Clarke

I'm putting out content like one-fifty amount that this guy put content out for my personal brand.

Sean Kady

It's super impressive guys, I have to say.

Winny Clarke

Yeah, I mean, yeah, for sure, I highly respect the hustle of like big time.

Sean Kady

Thank you, bro Just letting you know.

Ellevan

Thank you, love. You guys have enough swag right, Sean. Thanks, man, Love. I appreciate that. I haven't given you any respect on that.

Sean Kady

yeah, Both of you, no, appreciate you guys.

Charlie Kady

You guys are all a joke.

Sean Kady

Sean, no, no, no, the swag, you joker. Oh, I'm so sorry. I told you guys we had surprises. Charlie, what about the swag you want me to give it to them?

Winny Clarke

right now.

Charlie Kady

Oh what yeah, yeah yeah you got a surprise, a surprise whistle, don't you?

Sean Kady

have a, so you guys don't get enough swag right, don't get enough swag. I'll hold a key off the knob Unless we listen to your podcast. I think you guys mentioned that. What do you got?

Winny Clarke

there, All this free shit and then nobody ever books out the swag.

Ellevan

This is a what is going on right now. Are you ready for this?

Sean Kady

This is a shout out to Cleo at Limitless Print House 2.

Charlie Kady

So there are a lot of nice little funny, and then we couldn't what.

Winny Clarke

Oh my god, what Check the back?

Sean Kady

Oh my god, you guys Check the back.

Charlie Kady

What the?

Sean Kady

fuck.

Winny Clarke

What the fuck.

Charlie Kady

What the?

Sean Kady

fuck, what the fuck. There's 100,000 stitches, apparently too, oh, cleo at.

Charlie Kady

Limitless. What the fuck it's a track.

Sean Kady

You got the track. You guys always wanted the full track. Suits right, what so? We decided you wanted the unicorn on.

Ellevan

We needed it.

Sean Kady

Winnie's a unicorn because she does so many crazy things in tennis and there's nobody quite like her.

Charlie Kady

Oh, wow that was so good, so there's a little unicorn on the floor.

Sean Kady

It's cute. I love the track so cute. Yes, oh, the biggest collab in the game bitch and then I can pass Dude, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

Ellevan

Shut up. This is crazy.

Sean Kady

Safe to say to you that we're going to have to put these props to good use. This probably won't be the last time you're on the show, I guess.

Ellevan

Oh my god, you're going to be the best.

Sean Kady

Oh my god, we'll start to have like a mindfulness segment.

Ellevan

You are wilding.

Sean Kady

Of course this is so kind Dude that's above and beyond.

Ellevan

You're perfect.

Winny Clarke

I literally cannot believe it, oh my god.

Sean Kady

I actually had this thought, man, that like if I was on a desert island with nobody else, you would be like maybe a person I would want you would be a person You're in my top.

Charlie Kady

You're on my list Because I just think of like this beacon of like positivity.

Sean Kady

And just this both of you guys. To be honest, I don't know. Solutions based yeah, that's true, I just never heard of negative. I'm going to give you all hugs too, Like negative thing either of your mouths ever, and you have definitely good things to say and you always are funny and so Love you guys.

Ellevan

That is true, we do, we do.

Sean Kady

Make sure that you know that we appreciate you.

Ellevan

Oh man, thank you so much, that's really nice.

Sean Kady

You guys are awesome.

Ellevan

Holy shit Thank you.

Winny Clarke

You're very welcome, thank you. Thank you so much. Huge moment.

Ellevan

I feel like it's Christmas and my birthday all in one.

Sean Kady

Cheers to you guys. Cheers for like definitely bringing together. I'll toast to that. Let's do it, Cheers Love love, love A true collaboration.

Winny Clarke

Oh, fuck yeah.

Sean Kady

Well, I just feel like I've always just loved these guys. They put together the good juju and the like While I get. Obviously, you know you're worried about how it's going to look and all that stuff, but you're fucking dope guys, we're fucking, we're going to do a photo shoot.

Ellevan

We're going to do a photo shoot.

Sean Kady

We do a, we do a whole right at the end. So we're definitely going to go with the track suit.

Ellevan

So I love this track suit. This is so nice. I'm right now, bro.

Sean Kady

This is crazy you really getting a pants on this is the best birthday ever.

Ellevan

Nice, I love this.

Winny Clarke

This is beautiful, though, holy shit, oh my gosh this stitching is so nice, that's an official collab right there.

Sean Kady

I wanted to bring it back. I did have a question. I know we talked a lot about growing and discipline being about growth. Yes, do you find that cannabis is like a part of that spiritual journey and that growth Does it really? Does it help you personally? I know it helps me, but I was like I fucking you guys are just yeah 100% thought, right. So you guys talk your deer in the headlights.

Winny Clarke

still with the yeah, no, but we can talk about it. I think that, like for my own personal journey, like I really had to get to a point where I understood that cannabis was allowing me to reveal things about myself that needed work, and and and. Up until that point I didn't want to look at those spaces within me that needed work.

Sean Kady

I just like, wanted to hope one day they wouldn't when you're not smoking like what do you when you're not smoking here?

Winny Clarke

So when, when, when I, when I started using cannabis, like there was a, up until a certain point, I was like a really closeted smoker. So I like, oh yeah, like I didn't want to, I didn't want anyone to know. Yeah, I was not a proud stoner, unfortunately. Yeah, so what cannabis did though?

Sean Kady

To feel a bit to be a proud stoner right. Yeah, so there's reasons for that right. When you I mean, there's obvious reasons why you probably felt that way, and I think even especially pre-liculization, if you're going, this was probably like how many years ago, when, when did you make that transition? Do you feel like?

Winny Clarke

like, like 2020, man, when we started at a party.

Sean Kady

Just to destroy the stigma. But I get you, wow, I get you, yeah, yeah.

Winny Clarke

It's pretty crazy. Yeah, it was like a whole thing. Like I like went home to my parents and I was like I fucking 20, 30, I think, at this point, 30 years old and I was like I'm going to be brave and like tell my parents that. I smoke and so like I got that, I was so scared, Walked into their bedroom. I was like you guys know that like I use cannabis, right?

Ellevan

And they were like yeah, I'm like, can I keep going Like hot dog? Yeah, of course. Well, they knew how much. I smoked and it was like they were their logic was like you live with him, Like there's no way you don't smoke or like at least get contact high. They get contact high around me.

Sean Kady

They're like that's cute and we kind of knew but cannabis again.

Winny Clarke

To get back to the question, cannabis like helped me work through like traumas in myself that allowed for growth. I think that if I hadn't found cannabis, it would have taken a lot longer for me to want to process emotion, I guess. So like it, you know, opened me up to the idea of things. I guess that you know sometimes our taboo like therapy. It's not so much anymore, but at one time therapy was a really like oh, you're a fucking psycho If you go to the therapist, you know like it didn't have a good reputation either. So it just like really kind of has helped me like open my mind and heart to things that possibilities.

Sean Kady

Yeah, that's how I feel too.

Winny Clarke

Yeah.

Sean Kady

Perspective.

Winny Clarke

Such a good teacher.

Sean Kady

And sometimes it really like helps me think about things that I wouldn't think about if I was.

Winny Clarke

Yeah, but I had to get to a point. I had to get to a tipping point with my cannabis usage where I stopped running away from what was wanting to come up in me and started looking at it Like allowed it, yeah.

Sean Kady

Received it Exactly, yeah. One thing I find is, if I think that sometimes emotions I don't know about you guys, but I find that sometimes if there are emotions inside of me, if I cannabis can suppress that, but they need to come out, does that make sense? So it's not on the flip side or like do you guys know what I'm saying? I have the opposite.

Winny Clarke

You have the opposite. I repress, and then.

Sean Kady

I'm like thank you Not all the time. I just feel like sometimes I get in that mindset.

Ellevan

I know what you mean, though, because weed makes it all right for a minute, so you don't dive in and do the work on certain things. That's what.

Ellevan

I'm saying it's like you're talking about the cathartic release of emotion that cannabis allows you to feel your way through, but you are like me in the way where you maybe use it to just compartmentalize emotion instead of deal with it yes, and say, well, when I need to do that thing, I'll pay that toll in time, as opposed to right now. I need to get to work and serve my people or do this thing or whatever.

Sean Kady

You articulated that for a while there's no time for that. Yeah, I've definitely been there too. I can catch myself. I know when it's happening. Do you have to pay for it later, though. That's the question. Oh yeah, when you fucking snap. Not them. True, you were saying you went on a break. I've had troubles with breaks. They're interesting.

Ellevan

Oh, really yeah, I went on a break.

Sean Kady

I think it's an interesting thing. I still smoke every day.

Ellevan

It was just a five kind of thing Exactly, and just like one joint, just because I didn't want to and I was scared that I had a heart thing going on. It was something called costocondritis, which was just the inflamer agitation of the inner muscle tissue next to the rib and it's most likely from coughing, but it was honestly from having such tight we're talking about that nerve or something from your back, or I was pronating or I scared the shit out of me. So I started only eating salmon for like a week and stopped smoking If your shit is threatened at all.

Sean Kady

I swear to God I'll be better.

Ellevan

I'll only eat organic vegetables. We're clean thugs. I'll never do it again. Yeah, it's like fucking when you got drunk and you got problems with it.

Sean Kady

I was going to say that when you were young and you drank too much tequila for the first time Next Friday.

Ellevan

Oh man, but yeah no, so I can't remember what we were talking about.

Sean Kady

No, I think we're starting with where cannabis kind of helps you deal with it, whether it be.

Charlie Kady

Mental states of mind.

Sean Kady

Oh yeah, it could be spiritual.

Ellevan

Spiritual, I don't know. For me it literally helps put me in his zone. I think we're realizing I'm higher on the autistic scale than we thought. So like we're creating really good boundaries around, like taking time to reset before meltdowns and situations because I was diagnosed Tourette's and it helped me kind of deal with that and some of my reactions All right. So in social situations when I get anxious, I wouldn't even realize I was doing it, but when he would be like okay, time to go, I start going, like so I'd like have this tick, yeah, and then I kind of channel it into this thing that I do and where I pound my chest or my arms You've probably seen me do that, yeah.

Sean Kady

Yeah, no, I know it's great, but then I got.

Ellevan

Cardo Chondroitus for fucking banging on my chest for 10 years.

Sean Kady

Oh my goodness, yeah. So that proves how like one thing can lead to another.

Ellevan

Yeah, and so now I have to learn to internally my energy.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, a new way to do it, which is back to verbal.

Ellevan

So what about dabs?

Sean Kady

Dads.

Winny Clarke

What about Phillips? What about Dubs? You're right, I love.

Ellevan

Michigan pizza and Dubs, trucksuits, dubs, I don't know.

Winny Clarke

I don't know You're suggesting, dubs is the one.

Sean Kady

I was going to ask about meditation why.

Ellevan

I think they go hand to hand. Sometimes Meditators are huge.

Winny Clarke

Every morning, non-negotiating.

Sean Kady

Even when we don't want to, and that's part of manifesting our daily life.

Ellevan

What's your practice? That's part of not going nuts. Sit on the couch, guided meditation, for 15 minutes like Ross breathing. Calm your central nervous system. Remember that you are in a flesh-based simulation of consciousness. Get back to that zero point before you take yourself too, seriously yeah that's huge. Yeah, because I'm on the edge.

Sean Kady

I'm getting back into it. Yeah, I am. You have to just keep practicing. I think it's so hard.

Ellevan

What's your?

Sean Kady

experience with it.

Ellevan

I think you guys asked me about meditation.

Sean Kady

I did a lot of yoga in the past, before my son was born, and then I need to get back into it because I really miss it. Do it and I find myself just being stressed out. We're going to do yoga in the park bro, it makes sense, that's part.

Ellevan

I love it, the one near our place in Fort York, what's it called? Because?

Sean Kady

one is a yoga instructor too.

Ellevan

Yes, she teaches beautiful classes Wow ninja, so fun.

Winny Clarke

So many skills Coronation.

Ellevan

Kind of calm Coronation part.

Sean Kady

Okay, that's what we do, yoga.

Ellevan

And she's been like 10 years teaching yoga. She's built up this wonderful community too. Do you want to talk about?

Winny Clarke

I mean, yeah, I've been teaching for 10 years and I built up this wonderful community. That's so cool.

Ellevan

I wrote that for her See how this works. No, it's actually.

Winny Clarke

what is cool, though, is that this year actually, I have been teaching for almost 11 years now, and this year was the first year that I felt like, holy shit, I'm teaching Like. Up until now, I've just been like.

Ellevan

Flailing. Why are you having a ball on?

Winny Clarke

But not teaching, but like it was very structured and very precise and you feel like you've got some mastery, like very prepared.

Sean Kady

I mean 10 years is a long time, yeah, good job.

Charlie Kady

Yeah thanks.

Winny Clarke

I can look at bodies and like actually serve in a way that's like not looking for depths, like I'm very form focused right now and that feels different than any of my teaching before. Wow, yeah, yeah.

Sean Kady

Because I think your style of practice teaching has changed.

Winny Clarke

Very much, yeah, and it just had to do with like aging and like also getting injured myself, and that was like change the game, because I was like fuck, I didn't know this is what people were dealing with. You just never know if you don't experience it. And I went to teacher training when I was 24 and you don't know when you're 24. You just don't. You think you do. You're 24 and you don't.

Ellevan

And then the person listening and you're like but I do, and that guy just doesn't know. It's like you'll be 34 one day and you'll be like I didn't know shit, shit, I didn't, so but enjoy that, bro.

Sean Kady

Yeah, I'm like, I'm not sure if I'm 24, is sick because just be dumb for a while. All that Chinese food you're eating. I'll slap myself.

Charlie Kady

I'll go back.

Sean Kady

Eat it, eat it, eat it Open hand, sean Keating, you'll get it. Old man, that's hard Focus, focus.

Ellevan

Thanks for joining us guys.

Sean Kady

We'll play my talk with Discipline Stoners. Remember to follow at Discipline Stoners. Yeah, what do you guys say to it? It's smash the like and follows right, smash the like and follow Smash the like and follow Like absolutely smash.

Ellevan

Oh my god, you closed us. You closed us. I love this big collab.

Winny Clarke

Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, and welcome back.

Sean Kady

And welcome back to higher orbit. Shops closed now. Shops closed 11 and winning Gateway, my gateway drug to mindfulness. Round three on higher orbit, wearing some quite snazzy attire.

Ellevan

I must say dude, bless us. Like a bunch of kings and queen you are, come on.

Sean Kady

I love how you threw the whole robot to. You went for it. You threw the pants on.

Ellevan

To. I have to embrace it. I Genuinely feel Love, didn't seen. Thank you so much.

Sean Kady

We love you guys, happy to have you here. I feel like this was such a like episode of many firsts and it all went better than I could have ever imagined Fuck. I'm walking around, what a sweetie being a sweetheart right now.

Ellevan

He's being vulnerable.

Sean Kady

Smiling, I want to touch on that point.

Charlie Kady

You know I talk on.

Sean Kady

Yeah, well, you guys said you were attracted to my smile and I feel like sometimes I Smile and people get the wrong impression for me smiling at them. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. We talk about suspicious of the smile.

Winny Clarke

Yeah.

Ellevan

I mean you, right you are you are.

Winny Clarke

I think I Think it's prop maybe. Okay, devil's advocate, I think it's maybe less than you think okay. But I definitely think you're not wrong in thinking that, like it's, it's just not something that we really do very often.

Ellevan

Okay, but let's talk about this guy's smile, just between us, because because you guys, I would call you both big smile. I'm a big smile. I try to make the. I go to the eye contact in the smile, like frequently, like we're strange as we blaze a lot.

Sean Kady

And I'm mindful of my smiles. Back to the whole mindfulness thing. Like I feel, like when I choose to smile, I choose. I'm not just smiling all over the place.

Ellevan

I'm not being a smile, slighty smile, or your intention smile, yeah you smile.

Sean Kady

a lot of people, though, yeah, usually gets the reaction that I think why? Which is another smile?

Ellevan

Well, he's very so. Sean is a. We repeatedly see him at parties like either OPP, in passing, before we sat down and became friends, before you became on the podcast, and then I know this and all this great Unfolding, and now we got the biggest March collab in the game, like we how would, how would we, how we would reference you like before we became buzzer. New name Sean is like the big, sweet smile. Guy with your nice, sweet smile because like it's just heartwarming.

Ellevan

Like you have this innocence about you, don't you find that Bro over?

Sean Kady

here has the sweetest eyes I've ever seen to.

Ellevan

I see that you guys just like Did you have really good parents? What the fuck what's so bright, I'm hurt bro Mom's Charlie's mom, that's cool, no, but yeah.

Ellevan

So you do throw that smile around and sometimes I think the light is too much for people to accept, like literally, like I don't have the capacity to Understand that amount of light in my reality right now. What do you mean? People can't just snap frequency into a new understanding and perspective of gratitude. If they're in a place that's so low, where they're in a victim mentality, they're feeling hurt, they're feeling wronged, they walk around, they stab themselves and expand their pain bodies and then this blast of light, energy, love, coming at you Aggressively, telling me to change the channel upward, which is, they know, is intuitively correct. It's intrusive in their state of being, which people perceive their familiar state as being able to control the reality, just because it's familiar and it feels like they're in control. So he's demanding, he's like check this out, happy Choice. And they're like fuck you.

Sean Kady

I used to get hit with smiling Buddha all the time. Kiki would always be like you're like my smiling Buddha. It's so we brought to this. That's it.

Ellevan

Like like I want to see in the world. I guess you attract people like us. We stroll up here to see you, to see like your crew and like this, and get to know you guys more, because we're attracted to that energy and then magic shit happens. Huge, sure Bansky story.

Sean Kady

I Missed Absolute fluke, so let's talk about. Decompressed. We were like, why were the discipline stoners there? No shit. I gotta say this fucking relax okay, we're gonna get into the whole story just happen.

Ellevan

Thank you. Okay, we gotta get in the whole story, but I do have to say thank you for being such a class act. I'm like cuz. I put myself on the other side of that too, and I was like you know. I was like all of me. That's like you know. It's kind of just like you know, vibe Totally like unintentional, what so ever. So here's what happened, but I gotta give you your fires for being so.

Ellevan

For you to embrace us in your space like that we I thank you. I appreciate that. It was such a nice moment. It was really dope that we knew Mallory and she had talked about us in the car to him on their way over here. Oh yeah, that was like I was like what? And she's like it's crazy and she's like remember, I just told you about the discipline son is and he's like the podcast. Doesn't know, I was just gonna show you how quickly Homie and final bell.

Sean Kady

Boon, boon are over there to Greg. Greg Boon, so sweet and everyone was just a vibe yeah, we love all the team and Sam Hunt I'm gonna shout him on to. He was at the pop-up and that was the joke I don't. You saw in the photo that I posted he had a hand out and it's like all your hands are so beautiful, sam, you should be a hand model. I'm not a.

Charlie Kady

Sam Sam. All right, hey, charlie, how you doing? It's a Charlie. This is Shabinsky, I'm calling you got a plumbing problem with your dispensary over here. We got a couple things that need to get taken care of. Call me as soon as you get this. All right, all right. Talk to you later. That's the boys man I made him laugh.

Sean Kady

What was your experience of that? I felt like he was so humble.

Charlie Kady

Isn't it?

Sean Kady

so cool when you meet people in real life and they're just really humble and cool and chill and like Legendary folks got to move like that Down to earth, right yeah, like, did you guys catch that vibe at all? What were your?

Ellevan

perceptions. Well, we got the cool opportunity to chat with Victorine.

Sean Kady

Victorine as well, his partner, I think and she's doing that terpene company that she told us.

Winny Clarke

so much about. Yeah, the fragrance company, right, yeah.

Sean Kady

And so it's like perfume. Yeah, it's going to be scents based on cannabis derived terpene.

Ellevan

She owns the commercial rice at Gelato because, hello, how sick is that. Yeah, and sugar, I believe I just got really hot.

Winny Clarke

Yeah it's warm in here. It's a little totally people.

Ellevan

Can they use that?

Sean Kady

And infused pre-rolls though, too.

Ellevan

Yeah, they were dry after that. That day. That was just magical man. It was so fun to embrace that moment. We all had to be there for a reason. It's like Toronto weed history. We left.

Winny Clarke

Just like FYI, we left and we were flying high.

Ellevan

Flying so high.

Unexpected Meeting With a Weed Legend

Winny Clarke

We were like that was the craziest shit, Because we really just came in to be like, oh, like, we like this retail store and we're going to get a joint, because we just had loaded pierogies across the street which we never have. Like that's so crazy that we even went there.

Ellevan

And we were in a bit of a funk, right.

Winny Clarke

Like I told them, we were at home.

Ellevan

And we were like we got to get out of the house and we got to just like I was like let's walk up to Queen, and then we just like, decided to go with the flow and decided to shoot.

Winny Clarke

And I sometimes forget where your store is, and so when we came upon it, we were talking about getting a joint and I was like, oh my god, which was your plan along?

Ellevan

I knew it was there but for me it was a surprise Like, oh, look at this beautiful retail store that just like, because they'll often come up and grab something and we'll smoke a joint and kick it outside and I always leave feeling better.

Sean Kady

The fun thing I don't know is you guys are both in show business, so I felt like as soon as you came in the funny you should ever you came in you were like what the fuck is going on in here?

Charlie Kady

Because the pop up was there.

Sean Kady

There was an extra kick shit. You guys are looking at me, you're looking around, you're like this is a show, this is a setup. You're like who's coming? Well, no, you didn't know who, but I hear what I thought was happening. You knew something was up.

Ellevan

So as soon as I walked in, right Like we're just coming to grab a blend, and then I noticed the pop up. I noticed the brand, but I noticed that there was a pop up in the space that usually there's not there, like it was some other material. I'm like cool. And then, I don't know, I stopped and we were just chatting for a minute and then we saw Mallory and then when I felt that vibe, that some some wheels were turning, like it's coming in, he's coming, like there were some like vibes, well, like something was being awaited for it, I thought that he was coming to be on the pod. So I was like, oh, good for you guys, you got like a big guest, like that's sick.

Ellevan

And then I was like let me grab this blunt and dip, like all right. And then Mallory was like oh my God, this is 11 of this. My son is in. The. Introduce me to the crew that she was with. And then I was like, oh, what's up? And then, final bell, I had been waiting to meet someone from there and then, awesome home was there. Homie from there, greg.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, awesome I'm going to come in today.

Ellevan

Yeah, yeah, like it was just kind of serendipity, he was because I did.

Sean Kady

I obviously kind of knew what he looked like and we were waiting for his arrival and then he was like he had the little get Charlie's in Italy.

Charlie Kady

I was very hard.

Sean Kady

That's also was one of those ones where I was like such a pinnacle. It meant a lot to me. But when I told a lot of people about it, they're like who?

Ellevan

do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's a legend in the weed game.

Sean Kady

And unless you know the way, you know the weed game in the scene. It doesn't mean much to you, but back to that, it was like we were standing up front. I was looking at you and then all of a sudden he was just there.

Ellevan

And I just knew it was him. He just mobbed up with his lovely partner and him and they're just chill, he's smoking a J.

Sean Kady

I said you got to place together. I think, that's one of the first things I said to him.

Charlie Kady

I tried to have a hello, mr Guzman, I think I think I fully what, if you have oh gee, and you know what was funny is. I stumbled over my words and I forgot to use myself, which was a fire, yeah All right, yeah.

Ellevan

You ever do that. You know, you know somebody from Instagram or their famous. I know you from Instagram. You must know me. Can I say something you know? It's really awkward.

Sean Kady

You're just like hi, you are cool, you are cool.

Ellevan

Let me tell you though in that moment I said to win. I'm like when we look back like this is a young budding industry in Canada, when we look back like the fact that when he pulled up he's like there was, you know, like cosmic Charlie's, and there's like discipline. So there and there was, like I feel like in the story tale of this movie of this time period, it made sense.

Ellevan

Like the universe has organized the pieces, and to stand there with y'all and to be like repping Toronto in this time it felt right, it felt cool, it felt fucking sick and it kind of showed that we all have camaraderie. Because he's from the States, think about it. He's traveling to see how the weed scene is in Toronto. He's going to tell people about that. Yeah, they were like. Yeah, the like the podcast and like the way that they do a podcast on the stores and they're all buds and they're just hanging out like like we were, like we were off that.

Sean Kady

That was beautiful. We were just stopping by. Apparently we were their favorite store. I don't know. It's a cool fucking store, somebody told me.

Ellevan

As soon as you walk in the front and you see the creativity that you do with the TVs and the retro stuff and like the funky, cool, like colorful neon plexiglass stuff and the way that displays are, it's so respectable, like especially from my artist perspective like it's like you know the amount of work that goes into being that sort of experience for people when they come in for weed because, it's all part of upholding the quality pack that we got to make Right.

Charlie Kady

If our little girl is going to be respected like she should be right.

Ellevan

It's like have some fucking dope ideas in your retail spaces and you do.

Sean Kady

And that's really respect. Thank you, thanks, dude, yeah, thanks, that really is important. It really is, you know, anti corporate and like all weed culture first, you know and it's like fun, it's like, it's like you're in a lava lamp. Yeah, it's a little flow in the lava lamp. You feel a warm and fuzzy.

Ellevan

Like how weed hits you when you smoke it after school with your friends in the sunshine. Yeah, I love it. I love it.

Sean Kady

What do you guys want? What do you want to smoke up next? And you want to smoke one more before we're done? Oh, do I still have? I want to ask you guys that I was listening to our episode. Yeah, Do I still have the? Um, the Shcherbinsky's caviar cone. Have you guys smoked that one? Oh, infused. Yeah, we'll do one of those. Oh, let's do that. Let's do one of those. Let's do one of those.

Ellevan

Oh my God, yes, I'd love that. Are we going to?

Sean Kady

like in front of you, come back for like one more clip. They're so delicious yeah.

Ellevan

Do you guys have time?

Winny Clarke

for that Of course.

Ellevan

Of course.

Sean Kady

I think it's been like a day of firsts and I just feel like I want to have you guys back.

Charlie Kady

I'm so down.

Sean Kady

And we'll be like the first four, segment guest the first four.

Ellevan

The first four, the first four, the first four, the first four, the first four.

Sean Kady

I feel like we owe you guys another one. We'll be right back. Yeah, this one's donors. Yeah, we are back, we are back. Well, their final segment, our extra one, is properly toasted.

Ellevan

We just tested the caviar cone resident we made sure it was still good and it's still very good, still very good, we're calling the hotline.

Charlie Kady

Let's come back for a fifth segment.

Sean Kady

We're calling the sheesh hotline.

Charlie Kady

You might end up on our Instagram.

Sean Kady

Hi Matt Cherkis, matt Cherkis, oh no, sheesh.

Charlie Kady

Leave a message at the top.

Sean Kady

What we call the hotline. Matt we're hashing it out, buddy. We call this is a higher orbit and it's a good vision.

Ellevan

Matt, we want to see your naked pussy.

Winny Clarke

Matt we just need to know how to get as cool and sexual as you please. So we need to know here, in higher orbit, while we're high. So and then also we'd like to know what you journal about in the mornings, because your meditation process.

Ellevan

like why do you make such a dope soda? Everywhere we go, people like budget, like this is the fucking bomb yeah.

Sean Kady

Why do you make such a dope soda? That was just what's your?

Winny Clarke

problem yeah.

Ellevan

How do you do?

Sean Kady

it Shout out, matt.

Winny Clarke

We want to have a back up of the show.

Sean Kady

I feel like we didn't do it justice. You're invited back, matt.

Winny Clarke

You're invited back and maybe one day we'll try having like a fist fight for some reason, for some content.

Ellevan

Okay, bye, bye, that was fun, wow, straight up invite for the fist fight.

Sean Kady

You can take them. Let's get them on for it. I think that's because he's like the last guy you would ever see in a fist fight.

Ellevan

He's a sweetest dude. Those that don't know Matt Nice, he's the sweetest guy ever.

Sean Kady

So I don't see him getting in a fight with anybody over.

Winny Clarke

Never, he's so nice Kind.

Sean Kady

Nice. I wonder what they've done for that. I don't know, I don't know.

Winny Clarke

Well, we're probably going to show up there. Yeah, you might know.

Sean Kady

I think you did well. I imagine that's 188 pot line for those that want to call in. Yeah, oh no, I got it completely wrong.

Ellevan

No 1833.

Sean Kady

1833 pot line. Thank you, charlie. Thank you, yes, that was so fun. Did you have a question? I think you had a question you were holding on when he's funny guys, yeah, when he's funny, exactly. Hey, she's definitely funny.

Winny Clarke

I do comedy, everybody on stand-up comedian. We got fucked, okay. On the last segment. We were all high on segment three. We were like this is fucking going awesome, let's keep this going for segment four. And then we went out and smoked and got fucked and now we're here.

Ellevan

And I'm a stand-up comedian. Do you want to get down to our words?

Winny Clarke

Elevens fully trying to steal your guys' weed Just.

Sean Kady

FYI. Yeah, he really likes that one.

Ellevan

No, I'm not going to steal it, do you have?

Sean Kady

the hand of the ice cream cake times Jealousy.

Ellevan

I'm going to hold it in my hand for so long until I just melt into my skin.

Winny Clarke

So I've been doing stand-up for just over a year now, and it was something that, during the pandemic, I thought, hey, I really I'm more than like, really want to give this a try.

Sean Kady

Enjoying it.

Winny Clarke

And I'm enjoying it. And we have a show on August 18th of this year and at the Redwood Theater. At the Redwood Theater, and before the show, we're going to have a day party Amazing, yeah. So it's going to be a bunch of sick vendors outside the venue.

Ellevan

A party, a cannabis block party. There's a consumption in your lounge.

Winny Clarke

Yes, throw it out and then we're going to have a good time during the day, and then we'll see a comedy show at night.

Ellevan

Sign me up. Sign me up. Yeah, we do the comedy show and the live band.

Sean Kady

So how do they get those tickets to this show guys.

Winny Clarke

We can hook you up with the event. Bright link oh nice.

Ellevan

Just.

Sean Kady

DMS, or We'll put it in the link bio or something.

Ellevan

Yeah, yeah, we'll put it in you guys for sure, it's always such a fun show. It's our fourth installment and, yeah, we started this pre-show market and we want to give like top level unique entertainment in like cool venues. And it's very cannabis leaning in 420 community but it's not necessarily marketed on the nose like that, like anyone and everyone comes, but the pre-show market is very cannabis company leaning and that's like really cool and it's been an enjoyment to amalgamate amalgamations of many, many people. It's always a cool vibe to see the audience of rhythm and flow.

Sean Kady

Are you both performing?

Winny Clarke

Yes, yeah.

Sean Kady

And with the music improvised thing Music from 11 and then music from the.

Ellevan

Yeah, and then we did a live podcast activation on rhythm and flow to in December. So we had like a Christmas market and we did a live podcast segment with all of our vendors. So it was really cool and it was like a big pack and Jackie charges in that one and yeah, it was like. Yeah, I like kind of throwing events and then pushing the boundaries with what type of content you can execute on. And you know, we kind of just go back and forth and see like what's the most valuable. And you can see rhythm and flow one and two and I'm editing three right now on our YouTube channel too. Okay, shit, check that out. So it's just like a live concert series and I just like mix it in the house board, records it and live band man, they're so good, they improvise like.

Sean Kady

I have a question for what you guys just got popped in my head right now. I didn't think so. I didn't realize you've only been doing comedy for a year. But do you? I know you're both actors too Do you think your discipline, respectively as a musician and as a comedian, has helped make you a better actor? Is there something there? I don't know why it's popped in my head, or is that a terrible question Like why did you ask me that?

Winny Clarke

I think my discipline as an actor has made me a better comedian.

Sean Kady

It's not as trans, but yeah, but I still think that there's like, when you're doing a music, music videos I see you do music videos all the time. That's still acting, so there's translatable skills there. That's one of the other two, right?

Podcast Evolution and Challenging Stigmas

Ellevan

It's performing, projecting. It's definitely an active performance and like camera work, if you will, but like the technical craft of acting. That Winnie studies is like how I wake up and I'm obsessed with music. Like she reads scripts. She sits and reads scripts and enjoys scripts and I'm like, oh, good for you, I'm gonna throw on a beat and fucking vibe out and like that's kind of what our work day looks like in a period of creation time throughout.

Sean Kady

Any Wait is that your main thing Am I just realizing this is not acting, yeah acting is first.

Winny Clarke

Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.

Ellevan

And then comedy and then yoga she does and then like us as a podcast has, like, ultimately moved into more of a main focus recently as well. You guys have really helped your creative. I was gonna say that.

Sean Kady

Thank you.

Charlie Kady

I really know this is happening.

Ellevan

Thank you.

Sean Kady

It's really impressive the amount of content and it's really commendable and impressive.

Charlie Kady

Thank, you, thank you.

Sean Kady

Thank you for taking on a podcast and knows what it takes to be like it's crazy.

Winny Clarke

Yeah, I'm intrigued.

Sean Kady

No, you said it was hard and I know he can do it and I'm just like, oh man, and Charlie Gryffin and Marlon we've kind of realized two ever since we started this, and we're only 12. You guys have done over a fucking 100 episode.

Ellevan

Yeah, 100. And how?

Sean Kady

many, now 20.

Ellevan

Our next one is 150. Wow.

Sean Kady

So like so many people are like I want to be in your podcast and they think it's just so easy is just turning on the lights.

Winny Clarke

I know I wish it was that easy.

Sean Kady

Yeah, I do want to have you on, but and I still feel young, like.

Ellevan

I know that like.

Ellevan

If you look at Joe Rogan, I only became a fan of his like in 600s and now he's obviously so like way past that. But like in 150, he was still doing just the iMac computer live stream thing with like and it was like old school and grubby and you'd be going, you know, and I'm like, okay, I'm that version of me now, like I can't wait to see what our 600th episode looks like and how we can evolve the conversation. And I think our goal now has become less to look at life from a forced lens of mindfulness and be actually vulnerable in our experiences, in how we're pragmatically implementing these tools into our life when we come in contact with challenges. And it's funny now that, because of this narrative and the podcast, part of our focus as a business and the entrepreneurial challenges we face are from navigating the cannabis industry. Yeah, so the whole thing has become consciousness looking at itself while developing. So that's our primary goal is just like to like, put ourselves on the cross and like, show our growth and like hopefully there's some Sorry.

Sean Kady

No, I don't know why I did that.

Ellevan

No no. So, it's kind of like the podcast has become this accountability conversation that we have, where it's like we're documenting how dumb we are. Has your process all about?

Sean Kady

documenting, you know. Do you guys think your process has changed from those first episodes to now and like your preparation for guests? And yeah, what do?

Charlie Kady

you mean what preparation?

Sean Kady

Oh yeah, Prop-fucking-gurus. I had a suspicion Must have a rough idea.

Winny Clarke

Must have a rough idea hanging out. Yeah, like it's always our guests or people who are interested in so you knew some stuff on me.

Sean Kady

I remember you did some homework, you asked around. Yeah, definitely we do a bit of research.

Winny Clarke

for sure, I think that we could be better prepared, honestly.

Ellevan

Well, yeah, we admire you with this. This is blowing my mind in your organization Like Well. Shout out to my support.

Sean Kady

I have like a career behind me and a team, and I'll shout out that I'm an O2. Yeah, absolutely Anybody that is like I keep going where I'm saying it. I just feel like it's all me. I'm the reason. This is the shit right. Obviously, there's what's up my mind. That's what I say.

Ellevan

That's a I don't know, wendy and I have this back and forth of like who named this? And I'm pretty sure I named it because, like this was an effort, I feel that I spearheaded, but I spearheaded the production. You don't know who that's naming, right?

Sean Kady

But then when he's like no, I thought of it when he's like did the idea of his new symbol of the donor come first, or did the name come first, the idea?

Winny Clarke

The idea of first.

Ellevan

And then we were trying to, and then we said it back and forth in a conversation. It's like, yeah, but you're allowed to be a stoner, but you have to be focused, or something. No, and it's like because we wanted to.

Winny Clarke

I think it was a true collab.

Ellevan

actually it was a true, and you were like disciplined and I was like discipline stoner. You were like you have to be a discipline stoner and I'm like discipline stoner.

Charlie Kady

You're like that's it.

Ellevan

Discipline stoners. It was like a mushroom moment. You were like Bzzz. See that that didn't sound fast.

Sean Kady

You drew it up there. It sounded like that was it.

Ellevan

Yeah, discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners discipline stoners.

Winny Clarke

It was also still coming from a place, though, when we started, of really wanting to break the stigma that generally speaking stoner isn't.

Ellevan

Unanimous with.

Winny Clarke

Characterized as disciplined.

Ellevan

Clean, classy, quality focused no, traditionally, it's not right. Look at Matthew McComay bitch Like. What are you talking about? Like, come on. And all these good examples.

Winny Clarke

Through our conversations and through our own growth, we healed that sadness Do you guys think as artists you can put in a box, sometimes for being stoners.

Ellevan

No, I think. Oh, you made the assumption that I smoke weed because I'm an artist.

Sean Kady

I don't know.

Charlie Kady

Like yeah, I'm just saying in that career path Because, as a, why do you think we did my art?

Sean Kady

I've been like I think I'm. It assists you.

Winny Clarke

You know that I was in hallmark style films. Yes, so that's been slightly the bread and butter and I definitely have worked less.

Ellevan

Really Interesting In that genre, in that genre, but you auditioned for a really dope comedy thing and she's making really good dope strides. The door is closed some open right.

Sean Kady

Am I wrong though?

Winny Clarke

Yeah, like I don't, did the stoner parts kind of open up for you, I think ultimately yeah, Like, do I really want to be part of a narrative that is like damsel in distress, oh the rich man comes.

Ellevan

I think, paisio, you know no, I love it. It's a big gig and it's filmmaking.

Winny Clarke

Don't get me wrong. I love the stories and I love acting in them. But if I'm going, if I'm not being cast for any other reason, then I'm just like a bad actor. Like I'll take that. Like if you don't like the way I act, I'll take it. But like if you look at my personal life or the life that I'm trying to create in my authenticity and you say no because of that, then fuck you.

Sean Kady

Yeah, that's legit, Charlie. Do you think you learned anything today from the disillusioned stoners? Oh well, I almost wish you'd talk more about their. Like Myfulness Juju, why are you still in time? I've been loving that lately, but Well no.

Winny Clarke

I guess yes and no. There's lots of time you guys got to go, you two turning through a party together. Yes, the vibe is strong.

Sean Kady

We try, we try. You got to get that pizza.

Ellevan

Yes, yeah, the pizza would be good. I think the pizza is common.

Sean Kady

I think it's munchie time. Yes, unless there's anything else you guys want. Did you have any questions for us? Yes, what's your process like?

Ellevan

I'm calling for this. I just got handed.

Sean Kady

What do we got here?

Ellevan

Oh yes.

Charlie Kady

What the fuck is this dude? This is the popco. Sorry, this is not. We're not giving you this.

Sean Kady

We're not giving you guys these, but you can enter to win them.

Ellevan

Yeah, we will. We will Because there's probably a high chance, like the podcast, what are you going to do?

Sean Kady

About the share. What else you got to do? What? Are you going to do? It's higherorbitcapopco. That's how you can find out all the details to enter and we're going to announce the winner August 1st.

Winny Clarke

And these things are like, they are fancy dabs and you don't feel like you're doing something. They're my favorite. They're my favorite. I see dabs it's very future.

Charlie Kady

It's very future I feel We'll see how good they were. It's pretty.

Sean Kady

Jolly Roger says it's the pinnacle of hash technology.

Ellevan

We've tried it right, We've tried it. We've tried it in a new way Do you know Smoker Chick, try the new one.

Sean Kady

Yeah, smoker Chick, I feel like I know that handle.

Ellevan

Yeah, remind us who Sweetheart, sweetheart?

Sean Kady

We were at OPP and she was lighting up the popco.

Ellevan

She broke out one of those popcos and was like yeah, we're checking it out. And we were like popping on that shit, yeah and dude that was getting puffed out. Yeah, I was like. I was like I'm sad, you guys.

Sean Kady

So you guys do dabs On the normal or you do dabble and dabble. I don't Mostly flowers. That's like a puffin dude Flower. You'll do it like at somebody's house if they have a setup, but it's not like you guys have a setup.

Ellevan

Oh, outside, I'll do it outdoors, man. Wow, with the fire summer, I'll do it in cars. I don't care, man, I'll be in a fucking circus.

Winny Clarke

No, we don't have a setup.

Sean Kady

We don't have a setup. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. Is that where you draw the line though, or?

Winny Clarke

is it like no, we would have a setup. We just haven't invested in one.

Ellevan

We have a very. You gotta answer the one. Oh, we will.

Sean Kady

Has cannabis ever come between your guys' relationship? You guys have been together for a long time, yeah.

Winny Clarke

I was pissed for a moment when I was still in the stigma before I became a stoner.

Sean Kady

Yes.

Winny Clarke

Yeah.

Charlie Kady

Oh when you did. I did not when you felt bad about being.

Sean Kady

I did not when I was smoking, because I know that Charlie Stroh was with that sometimes, and I think that, like that's definitely a topic of conversation, we probably don't have time to talk about it too too much.

Ellevan

Yeah, it's a real bitch for a while Right.

Winny Clarke

Yeah, we were young and, like all of a sudden, cannabis became a huge part of his life.

Sean Kady

I'm like and not as big of a part of yours.

Ellevan

No Neurogapers, so it helps me focus.

Sean Kady

Yeah, someone was telling me about that and I definitely see it like that.

Winny Clarke

You know, in the neurodiverse thing, yeah, yeah, and I think overall, just like there's a transition time with weed, so like you really have to get to know it for it to benefit you ultimately. And so I don't think that smokers who don't smoke you know on a more regular basis, I don't know if they've tapped into like some of the real true benefits that THC and CWD offer, they get scared away immediately.

Charlie Kady

Yeah, yeah.

Winny Clarke

And so I didn't know that, about what it was doing to help him. Yeah, and, of course, over the course of time, I'm like you're getting better and better, like you're just like you're becoming, I'm falling more and more in love with you. You're growing into this amazing person and it was, with you know, alongside cannabis, interesting.

Ellevan

So eventually you had to be like fuck, thanks for backing that open. Yeah, thank you for saying that I love you. That's so nice. Yeah, so it helped like a lot of me to focus and live more heart centered and just start to chip away at some of the internal armor that you have and, like that, your ego identity holds in place and you tell yourself these stories, and weed helped me kind of come off some of that.

Ellevan

I understand some of the judgments and yeah, I guess you could call some of them judgments and preconceptions of things and yeah, and then just life started to get a little lighter and better. And then the more weed I smoke, honestly, the more physically fit I got. Like the more like jacked I got as a person, like the more weed I've smoked, I'm like I don't know, like you work out high, yeah, I don't even feel like it's working out, yeah, but I mean sometimes.

Ellevan

I'm at the gym, sometimes I'm not, and I'm just always high. So anything I do is high version of that yeah.

Winny Clarke

I just want to quickly shout out these shoe cushions.

Ellevan

Dude. Oh yeah, you can't deal with these. So the smell of my shoe cushion is I had a giant terrible, awful.

Sean Kady

Oh, the light cream episode with Rhianna Ford. If you go back to look at the YouTube, my legs just bowed.

Charlie Kady

I was drinking up water that day and he goes. I was doing deliveries on the bike.

Sean Kady

I think I was doing deliveries on the bike all day and then we did the podcast. So Gumblin said laughing and nothing to do drinking up water hiking, hiking everybody, and then like I, just like double Charlie horse.

Winny Clarke

Like oh my.

Sean Kady

God and just went down. It was honestly hilarious, but we got the cushions.

Ellevan

I love these. I feel cozy, I feel like I'm at a sleepover. Thanks so much for having us on. We love you guys.

Sean Kady

We're good, we love you too. Add discipline stoneers.

Winny Clarke

On YouTube subscribe.

Sean Kady

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Ellevan

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Sean Kady

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Charlie Kady

You.