Talking VR and AI with Toye Onikoyi

On this episode of AI Wave, host Chris Parisi interviews entrepreneur and engineer  Toye Onikoyi from Providence, Rhode Island. Throughout their conversation, Chris and Toye chat about the latter's virtual reality (VR) lounge, The Bubbler, and his personal invention, the Muse Mirror which employs artificial intelligence (AI) to recommend skincare products for the user. 

Moreover, Chris and Toye talk about the importance of retaining technology-focused talent within Rhode Island and positioning the state as a leader in the AI Revolution.  Toye, who went through the Providence Public Schools and graduated from University of Rhode Island, understands firsthand what students are capable of here in the Ocean State.

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Transcript

Toye [00:00:00]:

It. We have the talent. It's about keeping people here, like you said. And this is a great time because if you think about the iPhone when that launched, this is that time for the next generation.

Chris [00:00:22]:

Hey there, folks. I'm your host Chris Parisi, and this is the AI. Wave, the only podcast that combines the world of AI. With business, with a little touch of Rhode Island being the leader in this AI.

Chris [00:00:32]:

Revolution.

Chris [00:00:33]:

And today we're chatting with Toy, who is from VR lounge, the bubbler, as well as a startup called the muse mirror. Really interesting stuff. We just caught him right after the Apple's announcement of VR. He had some great things to talk about and how he's using AI. In his businesses. Brilliant stuff. He's a brilliant individual, and it was a joy talking with him. You're going to enjoy this episode. Stay tuned.

Chris [00:01:08]:

All right, welcome. We have our guest here toy a thank you so much for joining us today. We're really excited to have Toya to talk about all of his entrepreneurship the VR, AR, AI. You name it, this man is behind it. But tell us a little bit about yourself. You're a lifelong Rhode islander as well, is that correct?

Toye [00:01:29]:

Yeah, born and raised in providence, Rhode Island, went through all providence public schools. feasi, Isaac Hopkins classical, went on to uri, so I stayed in Rhode Island, and then after that worked in Middletown, Rhode Island, on the navy base. And yeah, straight up Rhode Island.

Chris [00:01:51]:

Did you commute to Middletown across the bridge every day. Wow. So you're a special Rhode islander, then, if you actually cross the bridge and go into Middletown to go to work.

Toye [00:02:02]:

Yeah, I did that every day, but I liked it because I felt like I needed time from getting up and working, and that was kind of like my destress time and getting myself kind of prepared for the day. So I actually liked that 1 hour to just myself music.

Chris [00:02:23]:

And now these days, you don't have as long of a commute. Right. You have a business in Providence called the bubbler VR lounge. Tell us a little bit about that.

Toye [00:02:37]:

Yeah, so the bubbler, it's a virtuality lounge, arcade, soda bar, and it kind of came about from when I was working on the navy base. We were doing things in virtual reality in the training, like training simulator, and I wanted to have more people experience the kind of technology I was working with every day. So I had to open up a space, kind of helped from a friend. She opened up a dance studio, and I was like, I went there and I was like, how'd you do this? And she was like, I just went to the owner and asked for space. And basically from that meeting, I drove by where the bubbler is today, right near the north end of province on Charles street and spoke with the guy who owns it and he spoke with his realtor and just got it. That day, I didn't really know what I was going to do, but I knew I had something to do with VR.

Chris [00:03:44]:

Wow. That's an unbelievable genesis story of many entrepreneurs. Like, I have an idea, I have a passion, I have a vision. I'll figure out the rest later. Right. But as long as you have those elements, any entrepreneur will be successful. And it has worked out for you so far, which is great.

Toye [00:04:03]:

Yeah, no, definitely. And trying to utilize I definitely utilize the time, it was COVID, like, in the middle of COVID when this was happening, I got the space at the end of 2020. And at that time, people was kind of, like, against commercial. They thought like, oh, COVID commercials is dead. So I kind of utilized that. I went to the owner. I was like, you're not going to rent this place out. You're not going to rent this place out. Let me come in here a couple of months for free. I'll turn this place around and give me six months, and after that, you can start charging me. And that worked.

Chris [00:04:43]:

Wow.

Toye [00:04:44]:

Was able to have the space and kind of gave me time to kind of flesh out my ideas and really turn it into what it is now.

Chris [00:04:53]:

What are some of the lessons and challenges that you face? I'm sure what it looks like today is different than it looked like at the end of 2020.

Toye [00:05:02]:

Is that right from when it looked like before?

Chris [00:05:05]:

Yeah, like the VR Lounge. I'm sure it looks different in the business model. What have you learned over those years?

Toye [00:05:14]:

So I first opened last year at the beginning of 2021, and I would say definitely have a plan. Have a business plan fully before you start putting a lot of money into something.

Chris [00:05:37]:

You said last year. You mean two years ago.

Toye [00:05:41]:

So I got the place in 2020. Right. And then wow. You're right.

Chris [00:05:50]:

Time flies when you're an entrepreneur. We're in 2023.

Toye [00:05:54]:

We are. I open in the end of 2021.

Chris [00:06:01]:

So you've been doing this for over two years now?

Toye [00:06:03]:

Yeah. Wow. Tired of 2021. I was just building this space out, and then I opened at the end of the year, and all of last year I was open. So not definitely having a plan, one of the things that really helped me out was buying the building. And that was something that just really helped with just everything in that business. Owning the building gave me the opportunity to capture more revenue on top because there was apartments on top. So I still had even more flexibility there to really flesh out my ideas and try to find that product market fit there.

Chris [00:06:49]:

I love that. We did the same thing at Trailblaze. We purchased this unit instead of renting it. And another thing it does is it holds you accountable. Like, this is it. I'm invested in this place, and we're going to make it happen. And that's a brilliant move, but on your part and for our audience, if they're like, what the hell is a VR lounge? What do you do there? Tell us about it. Do you have all these VR sets? And is it more because it's the bubbler lounge, right? Is there also beverages? Tell us a little bit more about what it's like if I were to walk in there.

Toye [00:07:27]:

Yeah, so the bubbler, we have different VR stations. So you could go there for like, VR entertainment. Right now we have three stations, and basically you pay for time. So you could go there for an hour. You could play different VR games, experience different VR experiences. For that time. We also have a soda bar. And it's funny how that happened. So I'm in the bubbler, and I'm trying to figure out how I could add something to it. I'm thinking food, I'm thinking snacks, exotic snacks, different things. My friend calls me, my friend Victor calls me. He's like, can you pick me up at the airport in Boston? I'm like, yeah, drive to Boston, pick him up, pick him up at the airport. And then he's like, you'll never guess what I just experienced in Utah. And I was like, Utah? I was like, what was going on there? He said they have these soda bars and soda lounges soda spots.

Chris [00:08:28]:

The Mormons are not allowed to. Really?

Toye [00:08:31]:

Yeah, they don't drink alcohol and think coffee as well. Soda is like their thing. And then when he's talking about it, I'm like, that's it.

Chris [00:08:42]:

Wow.

Toye [00:08:43]:

So introduced these dirty sodas where we mix carbonated sodas with different syrups and we put our own twist on it and put frozen fruit purees in it and then kind of mixed it all up. And me and my friend, just a couple of months, just coming up with different recipes. And that kind of added to the dynamic of the bubbler. But we also do different things now where we do different events. We do like, tournaments. We do smash tournaments every Wednesday, we do virtual reality tournaments. We have this art session that we do once a month. And our last two sessions, we added AI to it.

Chris [00:09:24]:

Okay.

Toye [00:09:29]:

So we do VR art classes. And in these classes right now, you're doing an oil painting, kind of like Bob Ross oil painting, right. Virtually in the VR. In VR world.

Chris [00:09:44]:

Yeah.

Toye [00:09:44]:

You are in the VR world at the bubbler. And all the other people who are there, you guys are also in that VR world.

Chris [00:09:52]:

Okay.

Toye [00:09:53]:

So you could see what other people are painting in the VR world.

Chris [00:09:58]:

Okay, very cool.

Toye [00:09:59]:

And the AI part we added was we're teaching people about generative AI, like stable diffusion mid journey. So before we go into the VR, we're creating these generative images and showing them how to do that, how to prompt it. Right. And then we're importing those images into the virtual reality, and then they're actually painting those images. So it's kind of like a step process, learning about generative AI, learning how to prompt generating those images, importing those into the virtual reality app where they all are, and painting that image on a canvas. And the fidelity is really good. Like, when you're touching the canvas, it really does feel like you are painting.

Chris [00:10:47]:

Wow. So we're talking about incorporating AI and VR and making it fun, right. Being creative about it, which is when people think of AI, they may have a little bit of nervousness or complexity to it, but AI is accessible to everyone, and there's a lot of fun and creative applications to be used with AI as evident in what you just gave as an example on the VR side of things. But speaking about AI, this is the AI wave. We do want to talk about something else. We heard about you. You have another entrepreneurship business going on. And I saw that the idea was kind of an idea that came with your girlfriend and her making a request, and then your developer programmer brain was like, I think I can engineer a solution. Is that right? Tell us a little bit more about that.

Toye [00:11:41]:

Yeah, it started as a gift to her. We usually make something for each other. Anniversaries, for example. We make something for each other, and I'm like, I'm an engineer. Make something that she could use every day. And that was kind of just the objective. Like, okay, I want her to use this every single day.

Chris [00:12:00]:

I love how your engineering brain was like, all right. My objective is to have a practical application that she could be using every day. I love that out of you.

Toye [00:12:09]:

Yeah, that was basically that. And then the mirror, the smart mirror is what came from that she posted online. It got a lot of traction.

Chris [00:12:21]:

Her gift was a smart mirror.

Toye [00:12:24]:

Her gift was a smart mirror.

Chris [00:12:25]:

Wow. Gentlemen, what are you getting your significant others? Is Toya got his girlfriend, made a smart mirror, but that turned into a business because people were probably like, wow, I want that. Exactly.

Toye [00:12:38]:

People was like, I want that. I want that for a year. I was like, no, good luck.

Chris [00:12:46]:

Got enough on your plate.

Toye [00:12:47]:

Yeah. And I still was getting those requests after a year. So that's when I was like, hey, maybe there's something here that I could try to build not only for her, but for more people. And that's kind of like, how that journey started.

Chris [00:13:04]:

And what does that look like now? Is it a smart mirror that is more for the beauty industry. How is the prototype currently being applied?

Toye [00:13:14]:

Yeah, it's basically for beauty, for makeup, for skincare, currently. Right now, we're looking to go into fashion and fragrance in the future, but we really want to help people get recommended products and services in that space that is personalized to them. Because usually right now, you may go to a store and you might get a product, and it might be recommended to you from a professional there. And they're like, okay, do you have dry skin? Yeah, I have dry skin. Here's, use this product. And not everyone that has dry skin necessarily has the same skin. So what we want to do is really personalize from that kind of category to the individual and recommend them product services, content based on that.

Chris [00:14:09]:

That sounds amazing. How would that work? I'm assuming there's some AI programs in the back end of that, but I'm assuming there's some type of sensors that's reading the data points on your skin and what your face structures look like. And how does that output work in the sense I know you don't want to give up the secrets here, but in simple terms, it's at an individual level, and it's recommending. Based on what factors? Whether you have dry skin or not. What are the factors involved?

Toye [00:14:42]:

Yeah, it's recommended on skin type, age, skin tone, undertone, and then various other, like, skin metrics. Okay, so all of all of those things and combined, there's aggregated data with that, and it could spit out specific information. Now, that's one data point. Right now, the goal is to use that product over X amount of days that gets recommended or service that gets recommended and to see are you improving or not? And that's the real sauce. The cycle in actually seeing is this product actually working for me and for businesses, it's a good way to test the efficacy of that product. Is my product working? Is it not working? Who is it working for? I used to think it's working for women between 25 to 30. Now, can we help you to understand this is working for people who have this level of amount of pores, this level amount of wrinkles, and trying to get on that level of personalization for businesses. Right, but then also for the individual.

Chris [00:16:11]:

So that's a win win. I mean, at the individual level, they're going to be able to understand what products would be best for their personal situation. And I've never heard the term skin metrics before, but they're going to get that data, the businesses to like you said, it's almost like having a trial where you are going to see what product works for what demographic, or what type of skin type, skin tone. And that's really valuable data. That's also probably training your algorithm too, I assume, right? At the same time you're training your algorithm, your model, that can tell. All right, let's start recommending this product more for this factor and that product less for what we thought was going to be the right solution.

Toye [00:16:55]:

No? Yeah, 100%. And like you said, it's training. It's like a never ending feedback loop, continuing to learn that individual not necessarily the category, but that individual. And there's a lot of things in this space, especially just the computer vision space in general, especially in terms of different skin tones, because sometimes people and products are trained on specific skin tones where it could leave a whole nother category of skin tones out. And right now, there's this new scale. It's called the Monk Scale by Dr. Monk. He's a professor at Harvard and he created this new scale. It's relatively new, just a couple of years, and it has ten different metrics on this scale where what people usually use right now in dermatologists, they use the Fitzpatrick scale. They have six scales of a range of skin tones. So this one is ten. It's called the Monk scale. And that's what we're using on the back end within our AI to be able to help recommend these products and services.

Chris [00:18:16]:

Wow, that's great. So it's also for good causes that we're being more inclusive to those that may be excluded from the systemic way of doing things. Like you gave the example of the Fitzpatrick Fitzpatrick or whatever. Now we're using the Monk scale. That's great. And you're using AI and all this, as you talked about. And one thing that I always love hearing is when we bring on local entrepreneurs like yourself. And you've been using AI for years. We just had Dr. Prashant, the Paul, he's been using AI for over a decade. Right. And it's already here in this ocean state. And that's why I believe we just had a press release that's going out, and by the time this is published, it already will be out about saying, why not have Rhode Island be the leader in the AI. Revolution? Right? We were the leader in the American Industrial Revolution. Why not? The AI? Revolution, right? And that's what I'm really talking about. Whether we're talking to state officials or fellow entrepreneurs is let's make Rhode Island that hub for AI. Right? We have the talent in our universities. We're small enough to be adapt and quick on our feet, and we already have a lot of the infrastructure, whether it's the startup community like shout out to Ri hub, or whether it's entrepreneurs like yourself that are already here building AI tools. I just had a call with someone else that earlier today, they've been using AI for several years and building all of these unbelievable tools right here in Rhode Island. So I think it's the perfect time to take advantage of this, be proactive and have more folks like Toy, who was through the whole Providence Public Schools. We have the talent here. Let's make sure we train them, give them the investment that they need, and make Rhode Island the hub for our AI. Revolution. What do you think about that?

Toye [00:20:14]:

God, I think that's amazing. That would be amazing. And I think it's possible.

Chris [00:20:22]:

Exactly.

Toye [00:20:24]:

We have a lot of things that are attractive about Rhode Island. We're on the coast. We have beaches. We're attractive that way. Just like the West Coast has the same and I think it's a collective, like you said, like the entrepreneurs, it is the investors, it's bringing money and investment in here. It's government, the state, the cities, looking at AI and trying to build the current infrastructure from transportation around these type of technologies like AI and generative AI and just AR and VR, all these technologies. Like looking at this first in a collaborative effort, I think that's how it happens. And you mentioned the American Revolution and the Carnegie's, the Rockefellers, they worked with the government at times to make things happen. And I think that's going to help push that agenda forward.

Chris [00:21:38]:

And what I'm calling on the state leaders for is to create an AI task force. This AI task force should be inclusive of all industries. All types of folks that are invested in this will be impacted. This I'm talking about education, higher ed, and also at the state level, I'm talking about these industries, defense companies that are here, right. In Rhode Island, Middletown, you talked about that yourself and entrepreneurs like yourself and also the VC side and the investor side. I mean, we got to put all of these folks in the room together, have the AI task force formed so that we continue to have this conversation and let Rhode Islanders know. AI. Does not have to be scary. It can be pretty exciting. It could be an opportunity to turn the state into the destination for all young talent. When it comes to technology, we're talking about AI. You talked about VR, AR as well. Why not Province? It's a beautiful city. We have that tech hub being built around the CIC building.

Toye [00:22:36]:

Yeah, no. 100%. And there's a bunch of different initiatives that are here right now, like Winter Circle. Juan at Winter Circle doing VR and AR with education.

Chris [00:22:51]:

Tell us a little bit about that because you're on the board for that, right?

Toye [00:22:54]:

Yeah. And basically Winter Circle is a way to get the education system on board with AR and VR, equipping the classrooms with these headsets to give an immersive experience to these students that they they wouldn't really get to experience. And it's inner city kids, they wouldn't be able to experience high quality education at that level where they may go to college and then maybe another school in Jersey, you know what I mean? And the kids are experiencing those type of technologies there. So that's what Winner Circle is kind of about, really introducing those technologies to inner city kids.

Chris [00:23:41]:

I mean, that's what it's all about. We have to educate that young talent that we have and get them prepared for the new world, the new economy. That the way that the world will be looking like in five years is going to be vastly different than what it looks like today because of our exponential growth. And also, I know you're probably chomping at the bits to talk about this, but we're recording this the day after Apple just released their newest, latest, and greatest mind blowing technology for their VR AR solution, their immersive solution, spatial computing. I mean, the floor is yours. Toy. Tell us a little bit about what your thoughts are.

Toye [00:24:28]:

It's amazing. It's like everything kind of just imagined it to be. It has the sensor suite in it to really just nail that immersion. It has the see through pass through. The great thing is that you could see the person's eyes, right? And it's not really their eyes. It's just a generative makeup of it. It's not their real eyes because so.

Chris [00:25:04]:

It'S just an output that is just emulating what their eyes are looking and where it's looking.

Toye [00:25:11]:

Exactly. And they didn't mention it, but from my understanding, I believe they're using the Gan, and that's like a generative adversary network. And I've seen them use it twice in their explanation. They used it once for the front eyes, and they use it again for when they're talking about FaceTime. So when they're doing FaceTime and they have the headset on, people who are in that FaceTime are not looking at them, but they're looking at a generative image of themselves. So when they're moving around, they're looking at that generative image that looks pretty lifelike. And I believe they're using a Gan for that too, a Gan filter for that, and basically just a way to kind of just regenerate you yourself.

Chris [00:25:59]:

Wow.

Toye [00:26:00]:

But in all, I think one of the most amazing things about it is just a human interface where you could use your hands and gestures to move it along, also your eyes to be able to control what you're about to click.

Chris [00:26:19]:

Yeah. Wow. I did see that. And they said that based on where your eyes are moving, they have a predictive analysis to it where it knows what you're going to click based on just almost like your thoughts, but really, it's like your eye rapid movements. Unbelievable technology out there.

Toye [00:26:40]:

Yeah, it's amazing.

Chris [00:26:44]:

And how does that affect a business like yours? I know this just came out yesterday. You may not have the time to really collect your thoughts.

Toye [00:26:55]:

In terms of the bubbler, I think it's amazing where I could have these headsets and maybe in a co working space type of thing, where I can have these headsets. People could come in and work from the headsets and be able to do a lot of their work from it and go about their day. I'm thinking I'll be able to use it various different things.

Chris [00:27:23]:

That's interesting because our content director and also our agency director, Dan Alexander, he was saying, oh, my God, if I could just design websites with this on. And you have like, multiple screens just completely immersed into it. The options are just limitless with that. So I can see that. And even we have a hybrid model here at Trailblaze, where two days you're remote. Imagine those remote days. We're using the VR set so that we can almost feel like we're more together. And we have Ezra Winters, our content director. He's fully remote. It would be nice to maybe have virtual Ezra with us from time to time, but the technology there is just rapidly changing. And that's why I think Rhode Island needs to be proactive about whether it's this AI revolution. Obviously, that's our focus here on the AI wave, but any type of high growth, high tech that like the AR and VR, let's be those leaders and invest in our children, in our higher ed education system, in our businesses as well. Let's equip them and equip our workforce with the skill sets that they need, because that's the key thing. You can have these startups, but if you don't have the talent to fulfill the roles, then you're not going to be successful. And they're going to want to go to Silicon Valley, they're going to want to go to New York City, where there's more talent out there. But we have the talent here, so we just need to retain them, right?

Toye [00:29:00]:

We have the colleges. We have Brown University in Providence, right. We have Uri, great engineering program. I came out of it, so I 100% know that.

Chris [00:29:10]:

Right.

Toye [00:29:12]:

We have the talent. It's about keeping people here, like you said. And this is a great time, because if you think about the iPhone, when that launched, this is that time for the next generation. And you think about the amount of money that came from people making apps. Think about Instagram, think about Facebook, think about all these apps, right, that made billions of dollars just from the app, right?

Chris [00:29:39]:

Right. Just the app. Not even the product itself.

Toye [00:29:42]:

Yeah, not even a product. And this is to your point, the apps, right? And Apple made the iPhone to make those possible. Now we have the headset. Now we need to make the apps that are going to make our lives better, the infrastructure better. And this is how we can also be that leader in AR and VR. We make the apps for the headset that's going to help the state, the world, you know what I mean? We do it here first, and people will come, just like people go to Silicon Valley, like you said.

Chris [00:30:18]:

Wow, I'm getting excited. Rhode island, did you hear that? If you think you have the next idea to build the next Instagram, let us know. Reach out to us. We'll put you in the right position to make your vision happen, because we want talented folks like you to stay here in the ocean state. And there's a lot of tools out there. There are a lot of great programs for upskilling workers, for businesses. The Department of labor and Training has some great on the job training programs, work immersion programs to give you the funds to hire people and test out. We're using it ourselves. We're hiring new folks in the AI space, and they're not going to have any knowledge of it coming out of college, for instance. But we'll train them on the job, get the funding from the state, and now we're helping to retain that talent, build up our small business and train that individual so that they can go on and maybe create the next Instagram, for instance. So I'm really excited about this. Toya, you pumped me up even more, and I didn't think that was even possible because I'm so passionate about this and there's hope out there that Rhode Island can be that tech leader for AI, for VR and AR. And Toya, you're a great example of how we can just ensure our talent that's here in Rhode Island stays in Rhode Island and grows in Rhode Island, which you've done here with the bubbler, with the museumra and probably more entrepreneurship opportunities that you have in the pipeline.

Toye [00:31:50]:

Yeah, I agree.

Chris [00:31:51]:

So tell me a little bit more before we wrap up. Are there any other spaces or technologies or business opportunities that you have your eye on?

Toye [00:32:05]:

I would say just in terms of industries like the degenerative AI, just industry looks really good in terms of things, what we're looking to do with the Muse and Muse mirror, everything in that space, especially how I talked about Apple using that Gan technology. We're looking to use that a lot within the Muse mirror, too.

Chris [00:32:35]:

Wow.

Toye [00:32:37]:

And looking to really do a lot of things in that space. We actually just got a patent pending status, including that kind of Gain filter and describing how we're looking to use that in the muse mirror. So I would say all things around that space really is really interesting to me.

Chris [00:33:01]:

And what gets you most excited? I guess it's the Apple headset, probably, right?

Toye [00:33:09]:

It'll get better than that.

Chris [00:33:12]:

Well, I'm excited to see what you come up with, and I look forward to working with you so we can let our state leaders know and all the fellow entrepreneurship entrepreneurs listening as well. Why not is the question that I'm asking. Why not have Rhode Island be the leader and why not have you be part of the solution? You could do anything that you put your mind to, and why not create it here in Rhode Island? If there's any ideas out there, reach out to us and we'll put you in position to succeed here in Rhode Island and just let us know. So, Toy, we appreciate you so much coming on. We're rooting for you and your success. Make sure to visit the bubbler, the VR Lounge in north north end of.

Toye [00:34:03]:

Providence, right on Charles Street. 568 Charles Street, Providence, Rhode Island.

Chris [00:34:08]:

Okay, good. Check out. And is it open every day?

Toye [00:34:11]:

It's open Wednesdays through Sundays.

Chris [00:34:13]:

Wednesdays through Sundays. I'm going to check it out. I'm probably going to take my. Team out there? Because you have more than one system, I'm assuming? Yes. Okay, cool. We'll check it out there. Shay behind the camera is very excited about that. And if anyone wants to follow you or learn more about you, what's the best way in terms of social or what's the best way to keep up with Toy?

Toye [00:34:37]:

Yeah. Instagram, twitter? Toyonikoe? I would say shoot me a DM on Instagram. LinkedIn too. But I would say, yeah, if you're on Instagram or Twitter, just look for Toyoni Koi.

Chris [00:34:53]:

Just slide into his DMs and then you guys can ask any questions when it comes to especially the VR AR space, as well as how Toy is incorporating AI into his technologies. Thank you, Toy.

Toye [00:35:08]:

Thank you, Chris.

Chris [00:35:09]:

Appreciate it.

Toye [00:35:10]:

Thank you.

Chris [00:35:19]:

All right, there you have it, our.

Chris [00:35:21]:

Great interview with the one and only Toy, who gave us hope for all Rhode Islanders, as he is from Providence, grew up in the city in the school system, and look who he is now, a leading entrepreneur and community leader here in Rhode Island. So it was a pleasure chatting with Toy. We thank you so much for his time and I hope you learned something. Let us know what are your thoughts? Do you think that you can develop an AI app, so to speak, like he talked about with the App Store? Or how are you going to use VR? Are you going to go visit the lounge, the bubbler? So let us know in the comments below. And as always, please subscribe like share. Let others know about the AI wave and how they can prepare to take advantage of this wonderful opportunity in this great ocean state. So thanks for listening and until next time, joy the AI wave.