Veteran Chat Project
Veteran Chat Project
From Promises to Reality: Accountability and Life's Trials
Ever had to field a pivotal call in the corner of your shared home office/bedroom while your partner tries to negotiate a zoom meeting in the background? Ever waited anxiously for a job interview feedback, feeling like the walls around you are closing in? Join us, Kyle and KZ, as we navigate through such moments, sharing our personal anecdotes about life's ups and downs. We bare it all - the challenges of family life, job searching, and managing a home office that also happens to be a bedroom. Tune in as we talk about the peaks of excitement and troughs of anxiety during job hunting, and how leaning on family keeps us anchored during uncertain times.
Remember the adage 'commitment is what transforms a promise into a reality'? We, Kyle and KZ, are living proof of it. Drawing from our personal experiences, we delve into the importance of having a partner in crime to keep your motivation levels high, and the undeniable benefits of being held accountable for your actions. Join us as we talk about the trials and triumphs of hosting a podcast and how the journey instilled in us the very essence of discipline and self-awareness.
Ever wondered how to transform your promises into realities? We share our insights on developing a system to keep yourself accountable for your goals and commitments. Listen in as we discuss the power of discipline, self-awareness, and internal drive that can drastically foster personal growth. From sharing our own stories on self-accountability to fostering family values through a card game, this episode is brimming with actionable tips and advice. We promise; this is not just another podcast episode. It is a stepping stone towards a disciplined and accountable life. Tune in now!
Hey everybody, what's up? Kyle and KZ?
Speaker 2:More people get their voice out there than I think they'll realize, like we're all the same.
Speaker 1:KZ decided to f**k and do it. Took the bait. So here we go, pedern, pedern, pedern chat project the Busterio, where it's encouraged to not be okay all the time. Hey, what's up everybody, it's Kyle and KZ and KZ and we are the veteran chat project. What's going on, guys? It's good to see you. I'm good to be here. It's good to just good to be. It's good to be man. How's everybody doing KZ? How you doing?
Speaker 2:Hopefully not lagging anymore. Am I good now?
Speaker 1:A little laggy, but Son of a b**ch.
Speaker 2:No, I'm doing good, I'm doing good. It's Thursday, friday Eve, the day before the weekends we can officially start, kind of. I'm good. It's been a long week for me. It's been a long week.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Let's talk about it. Taco was about it. I did. I did some camping. Yeah, family in and out and in and out of adjusting fire, I imagine.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, yeah, no, yeah. A lot of adjusting fire. So within the past three weeks, let's see my parents came and stayed for a weekend. My mother-in-law stayed for a week. My wife's grandparents are here until they feel, until whenever they want to leave, they're on their own. You know, time to me? That's what happens when you retire, baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're coming over like when you leave and like we didn't say nothing about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we leave when we feel like it, which I love, it, it's good, but you know it's within all that. You know, this is our first house, so this is the first time that I felt that, I felt the space of my own. So within that, there's been some kind of hurdles that had to like, navigate, like one being the most obvious for the listeners that watch is, you know, the space I'm in. I move my office to my bedroom, which is, you know, which is killing me. I'm not gonna. I almost said it's alright, we don't lie here.
Speaker 1:It's cool.
Speaker 2:It's cool, yeah, sugarcoat shit. No, it sucks, it sucks, yeah, and you know I, even you got to build your garage office. Yeah, I did. I even told my work my one of the girls from work, you know she asked me how I've been. I was like, hey, I need to go to Ohio, I want to fly to Ohio for some reason. She's like everything okay. I was like, no, it's good, I'm just. You know, I'm cooped up in the same room that I sleep in and that's not cool, like all day.
Speaker 1:I need to get out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I need to get out, but yeah, other than that's been good. The camping stuff was good until it wasn't good and now like yeah, we'll get up. Dude, I'm skeet out of man. Yeah, man, they're bad.
Speaker 1:up here right now I can't do shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll get into the camping stuff later. You know I made a little post, a little post during the week about you know what went through my mind that first night camping, and I'll dig into that. Yeah, I'd love to dig into that and open the floor up for discussion there too.
Speaker 1:What about you, though? Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:How was your week, dude?
Speaker 1:Oh, dude, it's been a I mean, you know, but it's been a roller coaster for me, honestly, with that job. They told me last week you know they're like you won't, you'll hear something by Friday if you got it, if not, you know. So I didn't hear anything Friday. We had like all of the emotions of not getting the job and feeling sad about it and all that shit, you know, and feeling sorry for myself because you know, I wasn't good enough to get the job or whatever the thought process was at the time. And then went through the weekend really kind of just leaned on my family like we had. My wife was off, we just we just hung out as much as possible with the baby or with my son he's two, I gotta stop calling him the baby but yeah, man, just really kind of leaned in on family this weekend.
Speaker 1:And then Monday comes around, or I think it was well. Then you told me like, oh well, it won't be a no until it's like an email or they officially, you know, they know. And I got a phone call Tuesday and they were like I was like, oh shit, I'm driving, so I pull over a hello, you know, all professional, and it was like it was the recruiter. She sounded like basically less than thrilled to be talking to me. So like I basically read that as like well, I didn't get the job. You know she was just doing her due diligence and like we finished, we finished doing the interviews and you know we'll let you know by email if you did get it or didn't get it by the end of the week. So I'm like shit, like here we go again back into the highs of like I might get this job.
Speaker 1:You know, like this it's back on that roller coaster board, right, you know like riding it just in fire constantly and trying not to annoy my wife with it too much, but I'm sure I did just by talking like just constantly, because she knew how much I wanted it and I know she wanted it for me as well because she definitely believes in the path that it would have been. And then how lined up. But also, you know, lately I've been really, you know, ride the roller coaster like I might have been down yesterday, but you know I'll figure it out going forward. So and then even like I went and had a chef job lined up, thinking I've been a chef for a long time, I can get back into it no big deal and just be like a sous chef at like a big restaurant or you know big company. So I didn't get that, I didn't get that job either.
Speaker 1:But it may or may not have to do with just like I got the email that I didn't get the job that I wanted, like in the parking lot of the interview. So like as I was walking in I was dealing with not getting the job that I really wanted and then wrapping my head around like that I'm actually sitting here doing a fucking chef interview. Yeah, that was like a huge. I don't know. I kind of had a downfall in my head yesterday of just kind of going backwards, yeah, but I didn't, I didn't let it go any further than that and I will let it and PSA?
Speaker 2:there's nothing wrong with being a chef? It just you, specifically. That's. That's not where.
Speaker 1:That's not where your, your mindset was wanting to go yeah, not anymore, man, like it's, if you got the time and you're and you're willing to put it in dude like that, like I don't know, it's not why I didn't get it. They ultimately they're just like oh, you don't do very much costing and I'm like you could teach me the way to you cost your menu in like a day, but whatever, it wasn't a fit you know. So yeah, but yeah, so I try, I just again. I lean on the family, dude. I lean on the fact that I got, you know, beautiful wife, beautiful baby, good house, good, whatever. I'm good, so should have come.
Speaker 1:There's always definitely opportunities out there and that's where I'm at with it oh yeah maybe do a little more research and bring some more better episodes to our fucking badass listeners. You know, I honestly, like my first thought was like dude, like fuck you, like I'm gonna be. You know, like who the fuck am I to still be doing this podcast? But I think it's, I don't think it's just serves to be like who I am and like you're still. You're still riding that roller coaster like I'm 37.
Speaker 1:You don't know what the final one I want to be when I grow up, you know the booty, the boots not empty the boots not empty, dude, and it's really something that I was thinking about before we jumped on this like really something that could have emptied a boot very, very, very, very, very empty. Lee, a very quick yeah, but I mean, what do we say? That one episode do clear eyes, full boots. Can't lose full boots for life. But no, I appreciate you guys in the comments. David, our upcoming guest, yeah, he said that is definitely roller coaster. Just stay positive, though. Put himself out there with sincerity, which means the right thing is gonna come along at some point. You'll find your fit. Yeah, I truly believe that too. Me to say that. And then our number one fan, mindy, hates to hear that. Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2:I do believe that too are we clicked on the same time I do believe that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, another thing, I've decided to lean into just even before this podcast is we had our guest stew on not too long ago and then the guild and I've told you, but yeah, I do, I signed up just as like the, I kind of like observe it's like it's a little group of videos like a snapchat type deal, but it's not snapchat, it's, yeah, called Marco Polo, it's in this app, but take a close group and they just they post videos positively affecting each other's lives with prayer, and that's gonna be the one thing for me. That's gonna take some adjustment because I'm not not like a, not a man of God, but I'm also. It's just, I'm comfortable for me to be like talk about it. Obviously I get stuttery just even time. It's not, it's not anything weird, it's just I don't know like I don't know it's that undeserving feeling for me that I've always had. You know, like that that's for other people.
Speaker 1:Then I got even told you that before I even signed up for this job. That's for other people, bro, other people get to do shit like that and I mean, but uh, but that's uh, that's where it is and that's where we're at, and so, uh, oh, yeah, for sure, interviewing skills are important. Uh, I don't think it had anything to do with the interview. I absolutely nailed those interviews. Uh, my personal opinion. The chef job I didn't want it, so I didn't get it. Um, and they did offer me a second. They offered me a prep cook job and I told them that, uh, I wasn't gonna do that. Uh, no, thank you.
Speaker 2:But you know your own worth which, and then there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1:I don't even said he's like I respect that, you know yeah much a.
Speaker 2:I think that goes hand in hand in.
Speaker 2:What we're talking about to me is self accountability, just because, like the guild stuff specifically, I said I'd do it and like I'm just sitting on it and I'm sitting on it because I'm afraid, like you know, I do these things where, like, I take on projects, whether they're personal or professional, and I take on product like I take, and then I find myself like I don't have time and I'm like fuck, you know what stuff, like the guild that got put out to me. And then something else came my way today and, you know, someone asked for help. You know, volunteering, helping veterans, like learning how to helping veterans learn how to like use Microsoft Office programs at the local college, like you know, come volunteer and help do that. And I was like I was like, yeah, definitely, that sounds like fun. You know it's a yell. You know, give me a call and the game in business card.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm gonna have to sit on this to you because, like, there's so much I don't want to say there's so much on my plate, but I feel like there's a lot on my plate that I want to do, right, you know, and I want to. But I want to hold myself accountable to every single one of those things and make sure that I prioritize them right, because prioritizing is something that I'm still learning how to do. Professionally I'm an ace, you know, or not an ace I'm. Professionally, I'm okay with it, but when it comes to like encompassing my life and prioritizing stuff is hard for me yeah.
Speaker 1:So let's just I mean like off the top of your head, like let's just say what's your you know, let's see job, family secured, good right you know, you're good there.
Speaker 1:That's obviously doing well. I mean, you know everything's got its ups and downs, but you know those are your two, you know your two constants, right, yeah, like what is what would be like your other priorities? Like what do you? I mean they say like you can't help nobody till you help yourself, right, so that's one. That's where I went, like that's why I'm like dude, I got to do something and I and I was lean and I was on it on the fence to actually text to me and he was like don't forget, dude. And then I was just like I was actually gonna do my video later tonight and I did, and that was him holding me accountable and yeah.
Speaker 1:I, yeah, I thank him for that because, yeah, it's, it's pretty cool. I haven't I'm gotten a whole lot of you know time to delve into everybody and their situations, but I can just definitely tell that it's a very supportive group of men who are clearly only there to to help you and then to be heard. So so, yeah. So shout out to the guild, shout out to Justin and thanks for thanks for letting me in and hopefully KZ joins.
Speaker 2:I actually sent it to Walker as well oh sweet dude yet to answer your question, like like there's so much stuff I want to do for me, but I keep sitting on because I don't want to overwhelm myself, like and there and there's small little projects to you and it's all, and it's all personal stuff. All personal projects, like you know, like I need, like I need to get, I need to get clear the garage, like I want to spend a day clear the garage so I can get get working out again, but I just I don't want to do that right now, you know. I mean because the first two things you listed, like family job, you know, when I'm around my family, like that's all, you know, you, I think you and I think you and I are just the same, like when I'm around my family, that's, that's exactly where I want to be for as long as I want to be there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I mean and like and I got you know, you know, you know, even if the in-laws and the grandparents were here, my parents were here like I'm stoked, I'm still living on the high of like having my own space, having our house, and like the fact that my kids have their own rooms and you know so it's hold on the moon, the yard. Yeah, we did that today another comment, alder.
Speaker 2:You need to clear some space for that axe target and that's something else to do, like the axe starring thing that can be down the list, dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have to start that right away.
Speaker 2:No, no, and I don't mean in relation to like the podcast, like oh, no, no yeah yeah, like, like that, like that, I really want to do the opportunity that came to me today to go help veterans out. I want to do the guild stuff I want to do. It's just. You know, I keep sitting on this stuff and I'm not holding myself accountable to be to be like, hey, get off, get off your ass and go and go do that thing. I wish I had the drive, like my wife had. Just give her a little shout out like my wife's, my wife's like motivational drive. I don't know if you want to call it motivation, she just does stuff because it needs to be done and I don't.
Speaker 2:I don't do that like I just I'd. If I, I do it. If it's, if it's in front of me, I'm gonna do it. You know I'm saying right, right and like, like, the, like them, like you know, in the yard today, like that was not on the list of things I wanted to do or even thought about. She was just like hey, I don't want to sit inside and it's getting cool outside before it rains, I'm gonna go start milling. And she's walked out. You know, not with an attitude. She was just. You know, I'm gonna go change it. You know, I'll see outside, I was like well, fuck, I don't have that. You know, I don't have that internal internal drive, just to go yeah, I mean, for me it takes a lot of thought.
Speaker 1:It takes a, it takes a it takes there's. You know, I gotta get the fucking lawnmower out. Yeah, make sure it's got gas. I gotta fucking make sure the bags empty. I gotta make sure I got bags. Put the grass in and yeah, and like in in your wife's mind she's just like I'm just cutting the grass and like all that comes as one thing yeah but to me it's like yeah, holy, you know, and it can't get overwhelming and that's funny. I think that's ADHD, my friend. I've been trying to tell you that.
Speaker 2:And it's funny you say that because, like, like, that's how she started it, she, she cranked the lawnmower and she just went out there and started mowing and it fucking died because there was no gas. I mean, we had gas, you just didn't put gas in it. And I was like, did you not, like, did you not do a mental checklist of like ABCD? It's like no, I just need to get it done so we can start doing it honestly this right here there was a book I read.
Speaker 1:So, alder, making a choice to start something is something I've always had trouble with. It's not until I get going and it starts to make me feel better so there's.
Speaker 1:There's a couple. There's a couple theories to this. One is keep your shoes on while you're doing shit. So put your shoes on right before you're getting ready to do your list of shit and then do not put your take your shoes off until you're done, and that'll help. One is there's a book that I read and I've been reading it. Oh shit, it's not my atomic habits.
Speaker 2:So basically, just like me about that, I think yeah.
Speaker 1:So you just basically in that situation, like man, like habitually right, like I sit on my ass instead of just getting up and starting to do that one project, for me it was like put your fucking phone down and go do something else. And that's honestly how this podcast became a reality, because I was like, well, let me research you know, I got this computer down here let me research how to do podcasts. Let me research how to do this. Let me use my time more positively. And then it turned into, you know, oh, let me, let me be more self-accountable, let me be more, let me be more of who I'm trying to be on this podcast, like in situations where I'm like I want to get pissed off or I want to be like shit. That I'm I. You know, dude, that I'm not proud of. You know, I like I think, like you know how, you know, like how would, how would our listeners?
Speaker 1:think of me like if and that's like a real, like a blessing that I have in my life now to think like I have to be held accountable as the host of a podcast who is talking about like holding yourself accountable yeah can't just be some jackass out here talking shit like I got to be doing it too. Everyone's got to believe that I believe the same things that I'm saying and I'm not just, you know, trying to get some views or whatever out of this. It's not. No, I feel the case, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel the same way when it comes to like my actions versus not verses, but with the podcast as a as a podcast host, I feel this yeah, I totally get what you're saying. I mean that we we had my wife and I had like a little little discussion wouldn't even argue that we had a discussion a couple days ago. We sat in them.
Speaker 2:It was like four in the morning, dude we woke up and decided to have it out and just she just wakes up, like you're like, yeah, you know, I've been really thinking like you know and she and but you know, you know, all credit to her she like she kind of just she reminded me in about because she could tell something was wrong, and she was. She was like hey, you need to remember, like you need to practice what you preach, you know, and I was like I was like yeah, I love her.
Speaker 2:I was like I was like yeah, I know you're right, and she's like it's like you're, you know, you're anything but a hypocrite, so if there's something wrong, you need to fucking tell me, we need to talk about it. It's like you and I both got on the podcast and talked about communication like let's do it now, and I was like. I was like I was like yeah, you're right, you know, and that's why I love her so much because she calls me I'm a bullshit changing people's lives, changing people's lives is dope dude, even when it's your own, especially when it's your own yeah because you're changing not only your own.
Speaker 1:You're changing your wife's life, you're changing your kids life, which is could be the most important one, depending on who who you know, who you're asking oh, look at this real quick to piggyback what you were saying about the shoes, david.
Speaker 2:The shoes 1000% I've been diagnosed is slightly on the spectrum. I don't take my work boots off until all my stuff is done and I'm ready to settle for the evening. Hands down can be a motivator to keep you accountable and productive at home. What's the cost of cheap carpet your house? What's the cost of the cheap car you guys came with?
Speaker 1:or some final flooring. Bro, get some final flooring, that's just cheap. You gonna try that all day.
Speaker 2:Colin David, I'm gonna try that next time, just keeping the shoes on.
Speaker 1:Even if you got some house shoes that you like, I gotta do some shit around the house. I put on your house shoes, my house doing shit shoes, it's my and then do the what is it be? New boot goofin. That's what I was telling Griffin while he was doing his little photo shoot out in the field the other day. He all your new boot goofing Frankenstein. No, he wants to wear those boots. He wants to wear one of those big rubber boots and a croc everywhere he goes. Dude, but no it bullshit. Yeah, it is. It's a transition mentally for sure. So once you like shoes off, like up, done for the day, baby, let's kick feet up because they're light now.
Speaker 2:That's probably my biggest thing too, because, like, when I travel, dude, as soon as I come home, shoes off, work clothes off, like you know, and I'm in, I'm in house clothes or, depending on the time of day, I'm in pajamas and I'm done. Don't talk to me. No, you know, don't ask me to not.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's actually. Oh sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I think you're about to say. I'm gonna say, go ahead.
Speaker 1:What about going into the?
Speaker 2:yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I was just looking at like development of discipline that I put here. So like self accountability involves cultivating discipline in one's life.
Speaker 1:You know, it helps, and I'm not saying just you like do this is me too. I'm guilty as sin myself of being a Victim of habits and and the easy, the easy hard or the easy habit is easy to get into. Yeah, I mean like it's easy to not go to the gym. I got a fucking gym in my basement. I did clean it out. Today, though, it is ready to go, and I might even get a lift in tonight because I'm feeling feeling like a frosty. I need, I feel like I need a pump. But yeah, that development of discipline, it helps people stay committed to their goals and you say consistent and follow through with your plans. I mean, that's, that's key. You know, that's definitely one of the main keys. I Like that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, development, the develop. And and for those of you, those of you wondering Um, um, kyle had. Where'd you get this from? He wrote this right.
Speaker 1:Uh kind of yeah.
Speaker 2:So Kyle has a list of just key notes that we're talking about today's and about self accountability, and one of those sub topics of self accountability is developmental development of discipline. I like that. This last little note here on developmental discipline the development of discipline strengthen, strengthens character and self-control, enabling them or yourself to overcome obstacles and achieve personal growth. I dig that in. Yeah, fuck, yeah, yeah, hey, before we're getting you further, I should have asked, I want, I was, I was, I forgot to ask when we started. How would you, how would you describe self accountability in your own words?
Speaker 1:oh, yeah, dude. Or in a phrase Uh, I think it's just basically being able to own up to your shit, dude. Like, uh, like you know, like what we say in the intro, you know, it's a place where it's not it's okay to not be okay all the time. Like you know, you can make a mistake. It's it's truly okay, especially for those of us who spent 20 years in the military and and every mistake was life or death. You know, because that's that's what they wanted you to be. They wanted every decision that you made to be battlefield ready. So then you take that out, even if, if you did four years, you take that out like every, every decision is this important. You know? I kind of trailed off there what we're talking about your, your definition of self, of self accountability, yeah, so yeah, just.
Speaker 2:Just being able to have fucking really trailed off there, the edibles kicked in.
Speaker 1:What was I saying? You calling yourself on your own shit. Yeah, yeah, you got to be able to do that. That's the biggest thing be able to look in the mirror and say, like dude, today you didn't do this right and you said you were.
Speaker 1:And that's the biggest thing is because I could sit down here All day long and say, you know, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this all day long and say, you know, I'm gonna do this whenever I get mad and and, to be honest, like lately, I have truly been Getting better even when I think my wife saying something to me that she's not saying, which has been, like I said earlier, a huge issue is my automatic negative thoughts.
Speaker 1:So, and I try, and I stop them instantly, instead of you know, being like, hey, this you know, talking back to him and it's being truly accountable, and just saying like you know what, like that was a lot of our problem was me. And then she'll say, you know, you know I'm not not perfect either and I can work on it, and we fucking hug and we go forward and we actually got a Game and I sent it to you and if I mean shit, if you're married, even if you're Happily married, shit, like we I mean we're, I'd say we're happily married, but like we're also young marriage we're only inside of three years. So we got this game. It's called talking points. It's a card game you got on Amazon and basically we don't play it like a game. We just have the deck of cards on our counter and every once in a while, if we got five minutes and we're standing together, we'll pull a card and we'll talk about it. And it's just got random questions. Yeah, so like we get to know each other a little more and define those family values and I Know I got off topic, but yeah, dude, just being being able to look yourself in the mirror and saying like I, I'm better. I need to be better because, yeah, because it's time, because, yeah, I owe it to myself, I owe it to my family, oh, it's my kids.
Speaker 1:Lorenz, I've seen you. What's up brother? Good to see you. I seen he popped in there. I helped myself accountable for a year ago for coming overweight and wanting to become more healthy for my kids and family Over the past year had to be disciplined on my portion Sizes and sweets. Yeah, fuck, yeah, dude, I love me sweets. And yeah, holding myself accountable for his house. And he said he lost 65 pounds. Yeah, that's my, that's my boy, right there.
Speaker 1:That's awesome oh the cards Alder they are Talking points. I'll bring up the Amazon link real quick.
Speaker 2:That's it. That's a really unique idea Doing that just For me, for for you and your wife. That's cool, dude.
Speaker 1:I mean we've done it for a week now and I mean I we did like maybe one or two cards yeah, a day maybe. And I mean the first one was like how important is it for you to be near your family? And I'm like we we moved to North Dakota so we know, but like, but like I truly know that my wife is happy because she lives this close to her sister, like she was off all day her sisters do in August so they got to do Like a baby shower type thing with some of her friends that they grew up with do her mom and they were at the Fargo State Fair or the Fargo Street Fair All day, so I think she might have just got home but they were out doing that.
Speaker 1:So I mean she really likes to have her family close and Me I mean I want to be close to my family and I am close enough to them. My mom's coming out next week For my birthday, birthday from a big old birthday. But yeah, you just Google talking point, talking point. I did the couples. One Copy link.
Speaker 2:It's a real neat idea. I think people, for a lot of people, forget, like when you get married, they think that's it.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying yeah, like oh we're done, like we got married. Like, oh fuck, no dude.
Speaker 2:I'm growing like no.
Speaker 1:Is that thing even clickable? That looks like a crazy link right there. I Don't know I.
Speaker 2:Don't want to click it, yeah. I mean there's, there's actually gonna said that alder, yeah dude.
Speaker 1:There's all. Actually I mean I don't work for these guys, but they should sponsor us now, but they're actually. There's actually all kinds of things like there's ones you could do it with your family, for your kids, with your teenagers, basically it's. It's based around putting your phone down and living in the world that we live in Phones as something, screens or something. I'm gonna be on a rampage or not a rampage against, but like I'm taking down screens in my house, we're we're on a battle against screens. Skynet will not win here. So yeah, moving on a little bit self.
Speaker 2:Accountability and enhance problem solving. Mm-hmm, anything about that? Yeah, I go ahead I mean that I feel like just that goes hand in here with everything you we talked about so far, dude.
Speaker 1:I think it, I'll go ahead. I think, honestly, without even looking into that, like that I wrote like it actually I had the other artist spare thought outside of that it helps you like prevent, like, if you're in that preventive, like you know, pmcs mode Proactive instead of reactive to is like your pre-planning things. So you're like, you know you're putting into your life these, these things of I Don't know, like I know, if I know this happens, I'm gonna do this, like you have these kind of little plans, like these little plays in your head that you know which, which will help you honestly, because you Was. It was another one of the podcasts I've been listening to, dad as again, and I think they said something about like, like when you, when you like, snap on your last snap, but like you know, when you, when you lose your patience on your kid, like there's no such thing is losing your patience, though.
Speaker 1:Like you can actually train your patience. It's, it's trainable and and that's another that's a thing. Like you can train yourself by keeping yourself accountable and by saying, like dude, like you know, I'm gonna be able to, like you could just sit your kids down and be like you know, and Obviously my kids too, and I don't know that for sure that this is how it works, but like this is how I'm gonna try to work it. Like this is. Like I'm gonna SOP, like there's gonna be a Turner family SOP. Like we learned, bro, like fucking laminate that shit, carry it with you all day long.
Speaker 1:We are bad space, we on the battle space. But yeah, dude, yeah, it's inspectable. Yeah, I mean, because you can. It helps identify areas for improvement, develop problem, problem solving skills to make necessary adjustments to achieve personal growth. That's pretty straightforward. Yeah, improvement and decision-making. Again, as they know, I just said no. Self accountability encourages individuals to consider the consequences of their choices and actions. By holding themselves accountable, individuals become more intentional and mindful in their decision-making process. This leads to better choices aligned with their values, goals and overall well-being.
Speaker 2:Mmm, consider the that little segment there Encourages individuals to consider the constant questions of their choices and actions. I mean, that's, it's really you know. Sometimes I find myself like you know what's that phrase? That we teach kids, that you learn as a kid, like kettle, kettle, pot, something we're not calling the kettle black or yeah, into the choir, basically yeah. Yeah, that happened while I'm pretty. It was happened while we were camping dude and like that's how unimportant it was. I don't even remember, I just remember right.
Speaker 2:I just remember it was my son, you know, my eldest he was. He did something while we're at camp, camping, and I was like telling him like, yeah, like you got to, like remember, like your actions, like you know, actions equal consequences when this happens. You know this, you know you doing this equals something else. Yeah, remember, it always equals something, it balances something out. So remember that next time you want to do.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's how unimportant it was, apparently, but but you know yeah yeah, and as I'm like, as I'm saying, and I'm like bro, you, you do that. I just remember. I just remember having that feeling like he learned it from somewhere.
Speaker 1:You do that, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that tough to you when your kids teach you those hard lessons like yeah yeah, it sucks, gotta love you just like.
Speaker 1:Get over here, you little little, I love you so much. Get over, you know, like, and that's where you just sit them down and honestly, I think that's a learning point because you could just tell them, like you know what. You probably learned that from daddy and you know, and we can, we could try to get better by, yeah, you know doing this because it's it's true what I said, but also I need to to do that better myself. Yeah, and I think that actually goes into a point that I had down here, because when parents acknowledge and take responsibility for their errors, they not only foster trust and respect within the family unit, but also demonstrate the importance of accountability as a fundamental virtue. That's like, when they're accountable, it's everything we've been saying so far Like it's crazy how much that all falls into just being accountable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and being a parent too, just like that's one of those key skills that you want to teach your children. And I myself, I don't think about it. I don't think about self-accountability as self-accountability, I just like my. One thing I harp on is, with my kids is integrity, doing the right thing when no one's looking.
Speaker 1:That's a good one.
Speaker 2:But that in itself in my opinion rolls into self-accountability.
Speaker 1:Or, yeah, definitely stems from or rolls to either one Like this just depends on where you base your family values or your family virtues. But kids, dude, like you said, they could have watched me do, they could have learned me. You'd be amazed at how much shit they're learning by example, so quick and like me, and I'll tell on myself. But I got mad one day or something and I threw like a pillow, I chucked it at the couch and I'm like ah.
Speaker 1:And I think it was like an hour later or something, I turned off the TV or took a snack dude, and he got up and chucked something at the ground and I was just like damn it.
Speaker 1:I'm like well, and that's why I'm like he's two, and I sat down on the ground and told him dead to his face, it's like I know you learned that from daddy and I'm not going to punish you for it. I'm not going to, and by punishing so we're clear. I set him into his room and I shut the door. I don't yell, I don't scream, when that's what we do in our house is, if he does something he's not supposed to, we put him in his room and shut the door.
Speaker 2:Lock it, and lock it, and lock it again. Caught off the oxygen.
Speaker 1:And turn off the water. Turn on the water, get the hose going. No, I'm just kidding, I'm truly kidding about everything about the hose. There is a hose in there. They don't leave marks. I'm kidding again. No, but yeah, dude, it's just. You set him in there and then you let him cry for a little second and let him feel that they did something wrong, and then you go on. And for me, something I picked up on or heard early on was like, if you get eye level with your kids, they're easier to, they're more receptive to you. Yeah, because you're not like. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Over him and telling Because posture is everything and even like in a conversation with your wife, if you had something you really need to talk to her about, go for a walk or sit, don't sit across from each other, like at a table, like across from each other, because then it's like an interrogation, because you're both automatically going to be nervous about it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at least sit next to each other, because body language what did we learn in the Army, dude? It's like 80%, 80% of fucking. All conversation, or anything human being say, is body language.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's where I mean. That's when me and my wife have serious conversations. It's either in the car on a drive by ourselves or laying next to each other on the bed. Yep, that's where, yeah, that's where we have those deep, meaningful conversations. So, yeah, posture is everything. Hey, look at, oh, go ahead.
Speaker 1:Real quick, David. I appreciate you saying that because it's actually something I mean. We really enjoy having guests and we've actually limited it to one day We've had a couple of weeks so we could still have these conversations more often because we're actually really enjoying getting the time to do these deeper conversations, Because I think both aspects of our show are equally important. So, yeah, I appreciate you, and those don't know. David, he will be our next guest. What is that? Is it next guest Next week? Yep.
Speaker 2:Monday, monday.
Speaker 1:Monday and we also got a surprise entry for Thursday, which I cannot wait. The recently retired, after 20 years, oh say yeah, I won't. But we're still retired after 20 years.
Speaker 2:Heavy company, you'll see. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1:Just get ready. It is a personality and it is the man. This is the man who smoked me so fucking hard one day. I thought I was going to shit myself, but anyways, yeah, dude them. Kids are always watching.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Look at this right here, dude. This comment here taking accountability or responsibility for actions builds trust in relationships. Fuck yeah, it does, dude. I like that because we're all.
Speaker 1:Ferry Mindy, not dude, sorry.
Speaker 2:You're my dude. I like this whole hardly just because we're on the topic of being parents and taking accountability. Responsibility for actions builds trust in relationships and that shows our kids that stuff matters. Building trust in relationships, right, because my wife and I were saying it the other day. In the end, our job as parents is, of course, to raise a decent human being and that can give back to society. That's our job as parents Raise decent human beings that can give back to society and also be receptive, be able to be receptive to relationships as far as being loved and know how to love other people. So, yeah, I think I went way off track there.
Speaker 1:I don't care, I love it. I fucking love it Because I mean, we were talking about it, so it's not off track at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hey, before we dive further into the list here self-accountability and self-accountability in transitioning out of the military what do you think? What do you mean? Like that's where my mind goes when I think about self-accountability in this setting right now. Like, self-accountability in transitioning out of the military, I think is lost on a lot of veterans when we get out Because we don't, we're not accountable for. I'm going to stop seeing we. I'm going to use myself as an example Because I can speak on that. So, getting out of the military, I wasn't accountable for anything. I did Because I was that brovette that got out and I was like the world owes me fucking everything.
Speaker 1:I got this shit yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't. We lost Kyle. Anyway, he'll be back on in a minute. That's how I felt when I got out. Told you he'll be back on being self-accountable to yourself when you get out of the military. And transitioning out of the military, I think is very, very important Because it sets you up for success as a civilian. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just miming putting my mouth over here. I'm listening to you, don't be that.
Speaker 2:Because that's how we started. Before we recorded, I was like fuck, it happened again.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I still.
Speaker 2:Honestly, didn't get that impression when you got out. No, because hold on. And she didn't get that impression when you got out. No, because I hit it really well. But the conversations were always had in between my wife and I of you need to go get help, you need to go see a doctor. I think it's time for you to go see a doctor. You need to sit down. If not a doctor, you need to sit down and talk to somebody. Talk to a friend, talk to a battle buddy, a formal battle buddy. It's like no, they can't relate to what I'm going through. I don't need their help Because I got it. I got me Yano. What's Yano?
Speaker 1:Remember.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yes, you are not unique.
Speaker 2:You are not unique.
Speaker 1:Although your situation may be, your pain is not unique. We are all in it together, so feel free to reach out to myself or KZ If you don't have anybody to reach out to. We are very, very receptive to messages. Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 2:OK. I think if more veterans out there are more accountable to themselves when they transition out, I think we see a lot less. That number 22 would be lower. In my opinion, there'd be less of us in the streets without homes Because if you can transition out and become a civilian and why you're doing that and be accountable for your actions and be like, yep, I need to go seek help or, yes, I need to go get a job so I can provide for my family. I'm not owed anything. I think you'd be a lot more as a society of veterans. We'd be a lot more. A lot of us would be more successful and I think I wouldn't have job-topped personally, I wouldn't have job-topped as often as I did when I got out if I was accountable to myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I would definitely agree with that myself, because I would just walk out and be like who the fuck cares? And when I should have, I really should have, and my wife tries to tell me that so many times. And I've quit jobs, even as recent as I walked out of my last kitchen job like fuck you, I'm leaving. You guys are trying to. I was in my head because I'm just so warped in that whole environment that I'm like everyone's out to just leave me to do everything, and in that situation it was how it was. But I'm not doing this again, I'm out. But I mean, I felt bad for that Because mainly I was like I'm not quiet about anything I do and you know this, I'm like fuck you, I'm fucking out this bitch have fun cooking, and then I can't go into the bar in town. Then it's like a town of 800 people. But before we go any further, speaking of successful veterans, you want to do whatever you want.
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Speaker 1:Okay, and I am. You're gonna have to mail me some water burgers actually honestly, we need to come out there, dude. I think me and my wife need a trip to South Carolina.
Speaker 2:Dude, come down. We're like an hour and 40 minute 47 minutes away from the beach and once it goes, we'll chill out. We'll go chill out at IOP, where it's where we took my mother-in-law when she came, and it was other than the fact that we didn't take something for shade. It was so fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to bring shade. My wife is milk. Oh, she is, she's white. My wife is milky. Yeah, all my family shade seekers.
Speaker 2:I mean, I made fun of, I didn't make fun of, but I, I think I made like a Like a snide comment, like a smart-ass comment to my mother-in-law because she wanted to stop to get sunscreen. And of course she's, like you know, everyone else in that car my, you know, even even Nikki Like is tan or has some kind of pigmentation and any Glover and we don't need no sunscreen. And she's and look right here yet she's the only one that didn't get some birth. The rest of us got fucking some birth. So, yeah, when you come, we'll have shade for you, for your wife and the kids. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1:Dude, what a little insane.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna put the good. Let's pop that up there. Boom. I Told her relate to that whole statement be. My fear is that my kids will see me as a, as an angry person or not caring, because my mental state constantly switches on. Dime have to check myself a lot and A second to calm down and show them they didn't do anything wrong. Hey man, lorenz, that's a, that's a. That's a hallmark of a, of a growing and great parent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, brother, I appreciate you, appreciate you doing that. You should appreciate yourself for being able to say that. And yeah, dude, it's, it's. It's good to see you Commenting and, on the show man, we got to get you on and share your story, it'd be good to catch up with you. Oh, so boosted self-confidence and self-esteem, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean that. I Mean what? If you mean, yeah, dude, in self-acquity me if you can, if you can call yourself on your own shit, that that just makes you for me. It makes for I don't know. I just I just imagine, like just you can puff your chest a little bit. That's stupid to say. Yeah like you know, I'm not a. No, it's not. Yeah, it's dumb.
Speaker 1:Fucking idiot. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2:Next uh.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, if you can call yourself on your own shit, then then you know that stuff goes hand in hand. Self, you know. Self-accountability, boosted self-confidence and self-esteem oh, practicing self-accountability empowers individuals to take charge of their lives, which is something we all need to do, and stop using excuses like to. I'ma say stop using excuses like deployments as crutches. As they accomplish their goals and consistently meet commitments, self-confidence and self-esteem grow. The positive self-perception is Essential for personal growth and development, and that's something I'm still going through myself. I'm not gonna lie. Positive self-perception Is essential for personal growth Because I I have a very negative self image of myself, probably Half and half, 50%, 50% of the time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I say, even when I'm like, when I'm like overly confident, like I know, I'm faking it in my head because I'm like you fall as shit dude, like because in the back of my head, like you know, you're gonna quit this job one day, probably because they're gonna Piss you off or make you feel like you're hurt, like you know. And or like like Lorenza, like fuck you, like you know this job means shit.
Speaker 1:I was a motherfucking tanker dude like fuck out of here and like, in reality, like who gives a shit? Dude? I know it cares. Hit the road, jack, you know, yeah, get your shit back to shit. Chef, could fuck out of my kitchen, they don't care. Yeah, they'll get another. They'll get another fucking Other dork off, indeed, to put their cheeseburgers, you know.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, fostered learning and personal development. Holding oneself accountable requires a mindset of continuous learning and growth. Individuals become more open to feedback, suggestions and new ideas. That's actually huge for me, creating opportunities for acquiring knowledge and developing new skills.
Speaker 1:This desire for personal development Leads to a lifelong learning approach, which is crucial for personal growth, and that is definitely Something you can definitely say is like never stop fucking learning, never stop going in. I think Mac Miller said it and wanted. I just I thought of it right there and wanted to start one. Just never, never stop going in on your shit. You know, yeah, they put fucking go in. Why not, dude, if you're, if you're, you know, do what star? Major hindsight dude, if you're gonna work on yourself to be the best, you know, be the best at it. Yeah, we're gonna be podcasters Talking about mental health, like let's be the best at it, dude, let's, let's, let's amp this shit up. You know, like we did, like we're like I'm trying to, you know, cuz I know you're busy as shit, so like I'm trying to help us prepare better for the show and I think I'm really excited to keep doing more, more shows like this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's like I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't want to do these with with guests on, because I don't want to take away from the guests. Oh, yeah, so that's why we decided to split in the two to a week. Doing that, maybe the occasional turret talks who knows, it's this easy to go to turret talks it um, turret talks the.
Speaker 2:The difference between veterans and civilians is the time that civilians have not seen is so the civilians have not seen half the shit that you will have all seen. So a lot of times, what we see as an issue, you see as petty. So in a way, you were calling civilians out on their bullshit and holding us to a higher standard of accountability. Damn.
Speaker 1:My bad.
Speaker 2:But I and I don't think that's um In some ways. I don't think that's fair. What do you think that lasted it?
Speaker 1:I mean what, like you don't think it's fair her to say, or you don't think it's fair? I think she's right, but yeah, yeah yeah, it's definitely not fair, but it's also like something that that. But you can. You can know it's wrong and not like truly feel it, but like also like I don't know, it's a tough one. It's not there, it's not their fault yeah, you know so it's it's huge to to understand that.
Speaker 2:And that was something I had to really, really learn how to like get over. Not in or not get over, that's that wrong phrase. To To like live with, to grow it learn and learn to learning to, to live with. What one one, one time that I can specifically remember that I'll always regret just being that like bro vet Was, uh, someone, someone from that I went to school with in the past, and messes me on like Facebook and said he, he said it was, it was September 11th and he was like yo, um, thank you for everything you do, hope you're doing okay.
Speaker 2:And I was, and I don't know, I don't know why it triggered me in some way and I was just like it's like, hey, listen, dude, I don't need you, I don't need your fake sympathy. Like I don't need your fake sympathy, like I haven't talked to you in like 15 years, like I don't, I don't need you to be patriotic twice a year on July 4th and 9 11. Thanks, but no thanks. And he came in and like I like his name is Derek Reynolds and if he's listening, if you ever listen to this, I'm sorry, but that I said that to you. But he said he's like I'm sorry, I'm. He's like I'm sorry if I if I said something wrong, but you're the one that signed up. I didn't. I'm just showing support and I felt like a piece of shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's tough dude, yeah that's a tough one because he's not wrong.
Speaker 1:No, he's not and he took his time out with me. I was like, damn, like he was, like I probably I don't know I've been in that mindset before. You know, like I remember I can't remember it was like some celebrity died when we were in Iraq and I was like what they ever do for your country, like some fucking jackass. You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, so. So, yeah, I do, I get it, but I mean that's the mindset they want you in dude, that's the mindset you got to get in to potentially go fucking kill somebody for your beliefs that quick. Yeah, you gotta be able to pull the trigger that quick on your, on your shit. Like you know, do I, and that's it's. It's never.
Speaker 1:It's hard to turn that off because Most civilians never turn that on before in their life. Yeah, and then it's in that way is like yo, we, we don't remember, yeah, that you guys don't, because we don't think of it. We just think of you as a civilian and it. I try not to do that anymore because I mean, at the, at the end of the day, I'm a civilian. Yeah, I did four years in the army and yeah, I'm 37, so that's 33 years of my life I wasn't in the army, and you know I'm mostly a civilian myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, yeah, I think it when I get out 2015 was Six, seven, eight, nine, twenty one, two, three in about. Yeah, in a year and a half I'll be. I Will have been a civilian on as long as I was. I was in. Yeah, and yeah, you're right, david, like me, you know, david said no. He only saw it twice a year. It took him 15 years to say something Like yeah, but I probably shouldn't have blown up that way and I'm pretty sure there was something going on with my like, with my mental state or something. Something was off of my like. I was at a balance that day and I just decided to take it out on this motherfucker, poor guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah sorry homie, sorry dude but he was yeah. I will unleash fucking wet death from the sky, like what. I was just trying to be cool man. I was having a beer, thinking about my friend, god. My head was like he'll hit up. Kz. Let him know you're thinking about him. Kz. He's like fuck you. Oh yeah, that's what I was thinking to not to laugh while I'm saying it, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah that's the thing, dude, and that's that's. That's huge. And to what we're talking about. So I mean, like it's it's a good thing to bring it up, it's huge. You never know like I Could think of times now where people like hit me up and I've acted not like that, or even in that situation, but yeah, I could target to see in that moment. It's crazy. I was just about to say that I'm excited to have him on. So building trust and credibility. By practicing self accountability, individuals become more reliable and trustworthy. They demonstrate integrity by keeping their promises, meeting deadlines and taking ownership of their mistakes. This behavior builds Trust and credibility with others, fostering healthier relationships and positive personal growth in social and professional Atmospheres.
Speaker 2:There you go. They got brought up again.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The whole relationship thing. Building trust in relationship, self accountability. Building trust in relation builds trust in relationships. Love it.
Speaker 1:Can love it, dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're, if you're more accountable to yourself and of course, you're gonna be more credible. Because If you can call out your, you know, if you can call yourself on your shit, on your own bullshit, then you you'll be able to call others too.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, dog, hell yeah.
Speaker 2:Overall, overall, self-accountivity serves as a catalyst for personal growth and development by fostering productivity, discipline, problem-solving skills and better decision-making, self-confidence, learning, trust building and integrity. And, by the way, listeners for those that are listening right now and the ones that are listening later on, on the Whatever platform We'll put this up on, we'll put this up on Facebook, this list we're reading from, just so you guys can see what we're talking about. This little, these little show um, you know error, quote show notes. But yeah, why did you? Why? Self accountability today?
Speaker 1:I Don't know, dude, it's just it came to, it came to me and yeah, everything kind of works that way with this show and.
Speaker 1:I'm noticing a lot more, lot more of God popping up and conversations on the show and around me and in my life and I Don't know. Something just told me self-accountability, mainly because it's something I needed. I need to work on myself. So that's probably the. The main way I pick Topics is like what do I want to work on personally and what can I get help with? So like this whole thing is just, it's just me suckering you guys in the end to be in my therapist, so thanks. So I appreciate all the free therapy.
Speaker 2:I it's, it's, it's, it's, it's ironic. How like I mean with you and I have said it Multiple times like it's ironic, how like things, when it comes to this show In our life, things, how things are just like laying out you know, I'm saying like Talking about self-accountability today and just like what's been on my mind for the past couple weeks, and like the stuff I need to be doing and the fact that I'm not doing them and they're all stuff for me. You know, I mean like you said early yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll be sending out the invoices later on. Thank y'all appreciate it. No, oh no, we got to block that guy who but yeah, just crazy. Accountability. I don't pay bills though.
Speaker 2:That stuff works, works out dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do Really it's. Yeah, it's really. Oh, it's really all it was. It's just like it's probably because me and you are so alike yeah, that that maybe that's what we were thinking about and that's just kind of I don't know. That's just what's been on my mind lately self-accountability and really just owning up to the shit that I Haven't been doing. I want to do better and just man, like just one, I just want to be. I don't want my kids to ever see me Like mad, like I get fucking pissed sometimes, dude, like pissed, where I'm like screaming and yelling at nothing, to the point where, like my chest fucking hurts and I'm like you got to sit down. You know what I mean and yeah and.
Speaker 1:I'll be like what? And then I'm sitting, I like what the fuck did I do this and I haven't done in a while? And I like why, like over something stupid? Yeah, I'm stupid, I can't find my keys. Oh, I can't find my keys. I can't find my keys every day. Oh, fucking keys. Oh, fuck it. I hate these keys. I hate my life, I hate it here. Why the fuck am I? Why the fuck am I here, where keys exist and I can't ever find, you know, and it's just like this, and then eventually you just got to be like stop it, you know, fucking stop it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like you say, it all comes from something, so some so simple. That can just be like you know I got one.
Speaker 1:That's the thing they never works. I got a tile Kyle's tiles.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like, I'm like that with my, I'm like that with everything. I lose a lot like I'm it's, I find it's, it's ironic I hate I think I use it word like 20 fucking times a step. So it's ironic.
Speaker 1:How like my, don't you think?
Speaker 2:like I was. At one point in time in my military career. I was responsible for a 70 ton, seven million dollar tank.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, yeah, that shows then.
Speaker 2:But then now, like I can't even keep up with a fucking wallet. Granted, the tank is not gonna get lost, right, but like you don't even have to take keys home.
Speaker 1:Yeah these are just like padlock it's padlock. It doesn't even have a real key.
Speaker 2:Yeah but that's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I Really do think, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's where my mind goes. Do you want to, like I lose my, like I lose my wallet or my can of dip, because I think I mean, uh, let's not talk about that to that car right now. Oh, but like, if I lose my wall and I'm like when the fuck is my can't? You know, it starts with me getting pissed off, and then it starts with the, the self-hate like you're such a piece of shit, like God, your piece of shit you can't even like Like you.
Speaker 2:Like you're over here like yelling at your daughter to get in the car or not to forget a jacket because it's cold outside. You dumbass, you can't even keep up with a fucking wallet.
Speaker 1:Right, you know.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, and then that that self-hate, that self-doubt, and then and then Just rolls into something else, something bigger.
Speaker 1:But yeah, and then until you can, yeah, until you could stop it. That's some automatic negative thoughts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude.
Speaker 1:I'll be a mental slippery slope. You just can't, can't, can't get that ball rolling because it's hard to it's hard to stop it. And you know, push, push back forward. Yeah, do positive in, positive out. It's true, man, that what did we talk about a while back? That's a power of John, blank, power of mind, mental.
Speaker 1:I feel like I'm right there, where you're at, if you deserve it, the universe, whatever you believe you achieve, kind of thing. The yeah, I'm trying. There's like a word, there's a phrase that I used it earlier on. That's used by everybody. It's super easy, but I can't. I'm fucking Law of attraction was that it? The law of attraction. Yep, yeah, that is exactly it.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna. Why you're looking that up. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. Yeah, since we're talking about self accountability today, I'm gonna set a goal with a timeline and Follow up on it as it with a Facebook post on the VCP Facebook page. That's how I'll do it. Okay? So, out of all the things I want to do and be to keep myself accountable in taking care of myself, the, the guild I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna tomorrow.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna do it tomorrow when I do tonight, do tonight I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it tonight before I go to bed, and then, as soon as I, as soon as I complete that first step of Not joining the guild that sounds, is it joining the? Join the guild.
Speaker 1:Basically yeah, so you're just gonna go in there and follow that link that Stu sent you. Yeah and then you'll join the Marco Polo and then you just basically just boom like, post your video, post your welcome video, tell them, tell them what brought you here. Yeah, a lot of them already know you from Listening to or watching, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2:So I'm gonna do that tonight before I go to bed. Keep my. So, yeah, keep myself accountable. I'm gonna do that before I go to bed tonight. I'm gonna post that there is. It's a video, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it'll take you. Do take you five minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do that, do it right before you go or go eat, and then do that, and then I'll, and I'll post it on Facebook as a follow-up, just to be like hey, I did it there, that's what I'm gonna do. What are you gonna do in the next 12 hours to keep yourself accountable To whatever?
Speaker 1:I'm gonna work out.
Speaker 2:There you go.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna fucking work out. I'm gonna put in a good 45 minute workout. I yeah, I'm gonna get in. I'm gonna get it, ian, that's so get it in maybe that's not. Maybe tonight. No, it's ten o'clock. Maybe maybe tomorrow. Yeah, maybe tonight. Wait, tucked in. Anybody get that reference? Or possibly Tucked in the ringer?
Speaker 2:speaking of working out, there's some. There's someone we have to get on the podcast that I saw. We used to message me a lot and I think I think he's got busy. He's a firefighter now or a paramedic, I can't, I don't really know. Doc Sealy dude, yes, yeah, I saw his picture to. His mom posted a picture today of of his of them and I was like, oh fuck, doc Sealy dude, like we need to get him on. Talk about some, talk about some fitness. Yeah, I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I actually reached out to Chad Crow it as well, over at apex animal house, colorado Springs. Yeah, I reached out to him to see. I know he's pretty busy himself, but we would love to have him on. He is Got something pretty awesome going and just to hear his story would be pretty cool. So, yeah, we're back to. We're back to shooting out messages and looking for more people to fill up our calendar as we continue to push this thing as far as we possibly can. I promise you guys this self accountability. I will not Quit on you guys. I will be here, no matter what. If not, you know, if I miss a week or whatever because of whatever, like no matter what, I will. I, you know this show is not going anywhere and I love this shit. So I really appreciate you guys being a part of it and I appreciate you, kz, for letting me do this with you and doing this with me. But yeah, no, that sounds like signing off. I'm not sure we're ready for that yet.
Speaker 2:No, no, dude, I love doing this. Let me see what David said. No, my situation is different. We'll dig into that Monday, looking forward to that, by the way. But I just remind myself that this is my one chance to not fuck it up with one of my kids. I remind myself that, no matter what she's, what does that mean? Mffp? And she's just seven and she's operating on her level. I remind myself that it's my job over the years to bring her to my level and turn her into the best version of herself as she can be. Yeah, dude, that's what kids are. I agree with you there. That's. It's a rough, it's. It's a. It's rough as shit to do that, or it's tough to do that, but it's. It's rewarding when you get those peaks, those those peaks of who you think your kids gonna be when they grow up. You ever get those peaks as a parent.
Speaker 1:Come. I mean Not yet. I mean I guess like watching my kid fucking hit dingers off his little plastic t-ball set is like pretty satisfying. Especially I wish I wish to God you guys I had like a camera in my house. I'm not big on that shit but, dude, if there, if there was one about a week ago, you guys would have had something fucking awesome to look at, would have been America's funniest home video worthy.
Speaker 1:It was kind of raining so I grabbed a little t-ball set, brought it inside, I'm setting it and frozen. You know that's the, it's the Fisher price t-ball set, the red and blue plastic with the big Plastic softball looking thing in the yellow bat. Dude, I said on the tee, I turned around, he hit one. It was kind of like a weak little Oppo taco. You know I went and grabbed it, stood him back a little bit and there's were like 10 feet between us. I'm like standing with my back to the fridge and he just was like Good thing, I'm talking, dude, like he full contact, didn't touch the tee at all. Line drive hit me directly in my left nut, dropped me. Dude, hit me dead. And I'm talking to nothing else, nothing covering it, my legs just exposed as oh, oh, my god, I'm like fucking laying on the floor. Griffin's looking at me like what did I do to daddy? Like I broke daddy, you know. I'm like don't worry, buddy, good swing, you know, but yeah, that's that's a peak right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you'll definitely get. You'll definitely see more. I mean and I don't know if it's a thing, I don't know if I just made that up or if I've made that up with the you know, but like my wife and I talk about it every now and then I'm just like you, just sit back and watch your kids do their thing, you know and you'll get. You'll get like little hints of like what they're gonna be like when they grow up. Like you know how they were. You know how they react to certain situations or how they interact with other people or don't interact with other people. Just, yeah, yeah, yeah, david, yeah, we're excited to have you on Monday. The I got Me, put me, put something up here and that I wanted. We're gonna throw another challenge out there in the next Probably next seven days. So the next seven days, go, rest those ass eyes, laurie I had to say yeah, keep yourself around, man.
Speaker 1:We're definitely, will definitely send that link out get you get your schedule soon.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man Miss you. I love you. Had to say it Um, but yeah, we're gonna put. Um, we're gonna get to the end of the week, but per week out and we'll follow up. Next time is just Kyle and I will. We'll follow up with those self accountability statements.
Speaker 1:We're gonna do self self account we're gonna make a post about it too, and everybody who you know to say this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to keep myself accountable this way, and we'll just keep that post on that thread and just talk about it there. Oh yeah, dude, we're gonna do that in. Hers is getting getting back to you. You got seven days, I'm just kidding. Yeah, get that shit done. How do I take that up? Boom, yeah, man, what? Um, I was gonna say something to you. I think I was gonna say something about what you wrote down, which is that that I know you're talking about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, self accountability, embracing responsibility for your uh, for for personal growth and development.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fucking dig that Mm. Hmm, those of you don't know, I'm not an author and I didn't actually like I. We all, we're, we're all aware that, uh, chat, gpt is a thing. It's a thing that the basics of what I want to talk about and they can eloquently put Um, so I'm, I'm exposed, um, I can't write this well, but I can relay the information in a very presentable way. Um, with this three of a face, so yeah, so, in today's ever evolving society, the concept of self accountability holds immense importance as it pertains to enhancing our personal growth and our living life. Self accountability is the cornerstone of individual development, representing an unwavering commitment to acknowledging and addressing our mistakes and shortcomings. This formal disclosure elucates the significance of self accountability, particularly in relation to owning up to one's mistakes and endeavoring to become a better parent.
Speaker 2:I did that today. I did that today, owning up to one's mistakes to become a better parent. How so? Um don't want to put myself out there like yeah, if.
Speaker 2:I get um. So we're uh, I brought it up. It was my wife and I, um, we had just cleaned up, cleaned up, we cleaned up from after Mo in the yard and she, oh yeah, most important things in my life. That's what she was. Oh yeah, um, I was like you're one of the most, um, like you're, you're top three of the most important. But like you're, you're definitely. I made a joke and I said you're definitely top three of the most important things in my life.
Speaker 2:You know, and uh podcast duh, and I said, uh, I was like the kids which, which, between her and I.
Speaker 2:She was like that's changed. It used to be me and she didn't and she doesn't mean that in like a selfish way, but like I've always, I've always had in mind instead of, like you know, I love my kids to death and, um, I hope this doesn't get lost in translation when I, just when I try to explain like the kids to death, but my kids are gonna grow up and not need me one day, right, like that's. You know, that's the goal anyway. My my life partner, though, is gonna be there for the rest of my life, or you know. So, back in the you know, if you would ask me five, six years ago what is the most important thing in your life right now, I would have said my wife right, and then, as a, as I've grown to become a better parent, and like watched, like, if you would have asked Nikki, uh, what's the most important thing in her life? Um, the moment she found out she was pregnant, she would have said her kid right, and she's said that every day since then.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I've never like. I've never, I've never been like, I've never competed against, you know, because it's mom. That's what I don't know. I don't know what, I don't know. What's like there, dude, it's mom over there. I don't know what it's like to be a mom, but that's that's, in her mind, the most important thing in my life and she grew that thing, yeah, and like that's, that's not, that's not, that wasn't me, um, because that's just my you can.
Speaker 2:maybe you can blame it on, not blame. Maybe maybe you can reason it with. That's how, that's how I was raised, just because I was by myself, I didn't have any siblings or I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know Right, but the most important thing in my life up to you know, up, up, up to you know, it used to be my wife. It used to be just her, because my kids aren't going to need me one, you know they're going to have and they're, they're going to grow up and they're going to have their own own life, own love, own kids. Um, but yeah, she was really surprised and she was like it's, it's not me anymore. I was like no, it's it's, it's, it's genuinely the kids. And she's like why? He's like well, because I've, uh, I've watched, I watched you, how to? I've watched you, I've watched you, I've watched you, I've watched you. Really, time and time again, tell me like they're the most important things in your life.
Speaker 1:And I just adopted that mindset, I think, and I didn't realize it until she asked me today Went way off topic there, but I think that's right where we're at now, dude, I think, honestly, I think this thing is actually been. Oh, it's funny because the self accountability does 100% relate back to parenting. Yeah, it does. Yeah, every time you know like it's like when you're having kids that you want to be better people, like you said, like some people they're like I can't wait to get my kid out of here when it's 18, he's out of here.
Speaker 1:Like you know, like, yeah, you can bounce if you want to little dude, but like, ultimately, we only have 18 years to influence their decisions when they leave our house, right? So, um, yeah, like you only have that time to to prepare them for the world, yeah, if the if the case may be, um, they need to be kicked.
Speaker 1:They're your kids, my suggestion um and this is something my wife and I talked about a while back um, charge them a little bit of rent past 18. Nothing crazy, nothing's going to break the bank. Something to teach them a little, uh, responsibility, accountability, the fact that mommy and daddy aren't always going to be there, but we hate. We still got your back, uh. And then boom, when they bounce, guess what I've been saving all this fucking money. Here you go.
Speaker 2:Oh dude.
Speaker 1:Because you don't need that shit. Yeah, you know what I mean. You just have to pay. You know, you create. Here's your debit card with ten grand on it. Go fucking put down on the house. Or, you know, go go furnish your new apartment or or whatever. Dude, here's your money. Yeah, have fun. Thanks for thanks for hanging out. Hopefully you learn some good lessons. You know, and that's that's the plan, you know? Let let my, I know. Uh, back to one of the cards. You know, since we're on the subject and I guess we had enough self accountability we could talk a little bit about the family and the family.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:One of the things we talked about. Um shit, I had it, you're talking about the one of the cards. Yeah, shit, dude, it was a good one too.
Speaker 2:It'll come what were we talking about. Being a parent, you're transitioning from self accountability to self accountability. You, you mentioned something about the cards.
Speaker 1:Fuck dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I forgot, dude, that's alright, I guarantee you can remember before we sign off. Yeah, probably, yeah, well, you know as you're. Well, why are you thinking about that? Because it's gonna, it's gonna come, I know. But, uh, I'm not gonna say one of those not maybe not so vocal about, like when they're 18, they're fucking out. You know, I don't think I've ever been that vocal about, like how I perceive, or you know my kids to be when they grow up. But, uh, you know, I've had, I've I've had that conversation with my wife more than once like what are we gonna do when they grow up and they like, like, are we doing like? You know, just those little parental check in? It's like, hey, we're like, we're doing this so far, like you think they can make it on their own right? That's, that's always my thing. Like what if they can't make it on their own.
Speaker 2:What then my wife, like without hesitation, right, without hesitation, her response is like well then, they'll stay here until they get back, until they can be on their feet. And yeah, and my, my thing was always like what fuck that? And you know, and she had you know she has.
Speaker 1:Well then, you didn't you? She has to remind me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not ready, and she has to remind me. She's like, um, she's like, she's like I think the last time we had this conversation it it was like right after Mason was born, you know, it's like we're like we're grown adults with four kids and we, we don't have our shit together and we're living with my, with my mom, you know, and, and she's like you know how hypocritical of that, or like we, we, we'd be hypocrites to do that to our kids, to tell our kids no. And I'm like, yeah, you're fucking right, yeah, I don't know, it just feels good, uh, it feels better every day being a parent now and especially have that, especially have that conversation. I have my wife earlier today, like I just it's, it's a relieving thought, like I joke around a lot with my oldest daughter and I say like she's the one that's never fucking leaving you know she's never leaving this house and I'm like I hope she never leaves my fucking site. You know, right, I hope she never fucking leaves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and even if she can make you like I hope she's a millionaire and just stays in dad's house, mom and dad's house.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just keep adding on to the basement. Yeah, you know, it's funny that you, it's it's thanks to God. Um, he wanted you to talk first, is all that. I was like I don't know, because it went right into what I was going to bring up. Um, my wife and I, uh, so like my wife's big thing that came up when we were talking about the cards Got it.
Speaker 1:Is, um, she really wants, like her kids, our kids, to want to be around us when they're older? Yeah, I know, I mean, that's personally like I don't live anywhere near my parents and it's not like I don't want to be like you know, I'm not like at their house every day for dinner. I don't live by them and it's not by, it's not by like any choice or anything that they did. I don't think, um, but it's just because I've always wanted to get out of where I was at. I just want to, always wanted something different.
Speaker 1:I might just be my ADHD or whatever, but I never would have thought it would have landed me in North Dakota, but here I am, um, so, yeah, so like how that's like. One thing we're concerned with is like how do we raise our kids in a way that they're willing to want to be around us, um, as they get older, and it's just like, and I think it's just like by by harboring those relationships, uh, early on and like really kind of just pressing the fact that like we're all together, you know, and and that's now I'm gonna let my hand just woke up.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I love that stuff. Yeah, we, we have the same conversations too, man, like how, like I mean I hope my kid wants to hang out with me and they grow up and like, yeah, like you think they're gonna, you think they're gonna want to hang out with us when they grow up.
Speaker 1:I don't know, dude, just looking at this is like my wife just went in there and snuggled it with my kid, and I'm just like dude, that's my, my fucking world's right there, that's all.
Speaker 2:It's your, your whole world in your hand right now.
Speaker 1:Uh, but yeah, dude, that's all I want. That's all I want. I want my kids to want to fucking stick around, dude. Uh, I mean, it's gonna start with daddy's cooking. Hey, dad's cooking, we gotta go.
Speaker 2:I think it's.
Speaker 1:I think it's gonna be like hey, bring all your friends, bring all your friends. Friends, like I want my house to be that house. Like my friends, my kids, friends come over.
Speaker 2:I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:Dude love my house. I think I agree.
Speaker 2:I think we're just bored. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I was. Yeah, the. The amount of kids that come over to our house when they're around Um is insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't all have to come at once All the time.
Speaker 2:but but it is like it is. Yeah, I, I, I hope, I think we're, I think we're building that house, I think we're slowly becoming that house in the neighborhood we're like, and I think it's on storm. So like storm, storm took it and like broke it. But I think once we get the trampoline back in working order, like the kids are coming back to the house to hang out with our kids.
Speaker 1:So yeah, hell, yeah, dude, that's that's important to us as we, as we discover what our family values will be going forward. You know, family time, family times, important. She wants. You know, I Want, yeah, I never wanted to end, you know, I just I never thought I'd be that guy who could like Sam pover. You know, like, looking at a picture of well, there's my wife and a baby in there, like most who'd like whatever, you know, I'm just like I'm over here, like I can fucking literally just stare at that, like my wife's just sleeping next to my kid, and then that's it's most beautiful thing, that's I. I almost want to just go lay in there. All right, guys, I'm out of here. But yeah, man, this has been, this has been a god. These shows with you have been just getting so much better, I guess, so excited when I know it's, it's just us. And again, that doesn't take anything away because we've had some pretty awesome guests recently. Michael Rock was fucking awesome.
Speaker 1:Yeah it was dope to catch up with will again.
Speaker 2:For all that missed it. Y'all need to list, y'all need. Y'all need to listen to Michael Rock Rock's episode and since we're talking about being parents, like that dude is after meeting him, he's one of my fucking heroes.
Speaker 1:He keeps my kids safe from Guardian angel that we didn't even know we had yeah, yeah, listen to his episode, michael Rock.
Speaker 2:He's doing some God's work. Is what he's doing, like he's? You know he's tanker, turn green beret, turn Pose a phrase Hunting pitos, that's what.
Speaker 1:That's what he does.
Speaker 2:That's what he does for a living. Season one is an actor.
Speaker 1:You know those movies, yet I didn't look.
Speaker 2:I looked them up.
Speaker 1:I need to find them. I did watch one. Yeah, we're gonna get in one dude. He's gonna have us in movies, baby better than chat project.
Speaker 2:Go in the movies. Yeah, like dude, the stuff they like I Don't know I'm taking my head like I've seen it, but just the way he describes it, you know the worst of humanity. Like that he's seen. He sees it every day, monday through Friday and that's or whatever, but he sees it every work day and then he has to go back home and go to sleep and that's, and yeah, and his outlet like is so cool. I was telling I was talking to my Grandparents about him like, and they were floored and they were like he does what.
Speaker 1:I was like yeah, that is a cool, like you guys are doing what on your podcast? Okay, yeah, dude Do a dude who was a tanger went green beret and now he hunts pedophiles for a living, like now I feel like our podcast just went from like here to like here just because of that level of content that we were able to Provide. Do that's uh you?
Speaker 2:know we've had some awesome guests. Michael rock oh, we have will back you, said we. You know we have will back on, just to catch up. Looking forward to having wills bit Is a business partner.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Steve Steve.
Speaker 1:Steve on see.
Speaker 2:Who's who was a co-owner of LLT house fabrication that we shouted out earlier today, our sponsors, and and then Stu. Stu was a. It was the third recent guest that we had on, I'm sure we'll have more of him too.
Speaker 1:Yeah as we combined our efforts to. I mean, I got to say it like I was gonna try to like to start that tribe shit thing, but I Think I'm just gonna put all my efforts and lean, lean hard into that guild and try to make it everything that they wanted to be help with that and and then use that to Spread the message and help, you know, grow that thing, whether it be starting a station out here or something's. You know Whatever I can do. However, I can do it. I'm sure I'm gonna figure out a way to do it. You know me, oh yeah, and that's that's where. That's where that job fucked up. They fucked up the point blank period. Nobody in the fucking world that applied for that job is gonna match the passion that I have.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I don't think so. So they fucked up. It's their loss.
Speaker 2:But, um, but yeah, so, yeah, um, I've really. Yeah, I love these talks, dude, I'm looking forward to the next one. Here's another. Yeah, you know what? Yeah, I'll come with the next topic for there for next week, for Thursday. Let's hear it.
Speaker 1:Well, we got to. We got to guests next week, so next. Monday, we're back to motivational Mondays, so these, these are gonna be our motivational Monday talks. By the way, right Guess, on Thursday, motivational.
Speaker 2:Mondays.
Speaker 1:Sweet Colin KZ. And that so shout out what is the what's the, what's the topic? I don't know. You just said it, you're gonna, you're gonna come up with it right now, right now, right now.
Speaker 2:The topic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, close your eyes, breathe, take a good one. I Like that you should do that values values core values identifying core values.
Speaker 2:Let's that yeah, identify core values. Identifying core values for, yeah, identifying core values doesn't have to be, for any specific reason, person or whatever. Yeah, I was gonna say for for transitioning veterans, but our audience is bigger than that, so identifying core values will be the next topic of discussion between you and I next Week from Monday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, week from Monday. David Snow is will be our next guest Monday, which will also be a motivational speech as well, because I'm I know he's itching at the bits to get on and talk to us. I know my camera is flickering, but you could still hear me, right. Yeah, yeah, you're good, all right, and then, yeah, and then we got, we got. We got someone who's gonna have a very unique perspective About Everything, everything. He was a great leader of ours a while back, just cashed in his, his leave and just waiting on that retirement date. So he's got the time. Sit down the chat with us next week on Thursday. I don't want to spoil it, but Keep a lookout. I'll make the event soon because he wants, he's a, as a good leader he is, he wants to make sure that everything works before we start Recording. He's like I want to make sure that all my shit works.
Speaker 2:He's PCI is for sure yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm like, I got it, bro, I'll send it to you.
Speaker 2:It's all good.
Speaker 1:It's like fuck yeah. You know, him fuck yeah I.
Speaker 2:Can't wait. So the um On that note, as we're closing. So if you you know, if, if you're listening this one want to be on the show, let us know. A veteran chat project at gmailcom. I just send us, shoot us some messages on Facebook, whatever, whatever platform you well, social media platform, except for Twitter. We're on all of them except for Twitter. Yeah, we don't tweet. Instagram, facebook, tiktok, we're on all that stuff. And then, yeah, veteran chat project at gmailcom. If you want to get on the show, love to have you. Remember you're not alone. We love you and yeah.
Speaker 1:Had a great talk dude. Yeah, that was fucking dope man I loved it. Yeah, loved it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anything. Oh yeah, oh yeah. So yeah, don't forget, look out for that post that I'll make that post here in the Probably before I go to sleep, and share it about, about Holding yourself accountable. Pick something to be accountable, be accountable for, and then I'll follow up. I'll, we'll follow up that conversation in that. In that, in that, in that Facebook post Hell yeah dog, hell yeah man.
Speaker 1:Yeah nothing. No, dude, I'll see you in the guild sweet 1126 pm.
Speaker 2:I gotta go fucking eat go eat dinner.
Speaker 1:Boom, all right, later y'all. Good night.
Speaker 2:Good night I.
