The Kellys - Developing a Lifelong Bible Reading Habit

It's First Tuesday!
Are you seeking a spiritual boost? Brace yourself for an uplifting chat with the dynamic power couple, Minister Cynthia and Deacon Al Kelly. This duo, a testament to the power of combining individual gifts for the greater good, bring a fresh perspective to our understanding of God's Word. Picture the Bible as an onion, with layers upon layers to uncover, that's Minister Cynthia's take. Meanwhile, Deacon Al shares his passion and methodology for teaching the Bible, something he discovered as a fresh Christian. Their experiences, interpretations and vibrant Sunday School stories are sure to get you engaged in God's Word.

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Note: All scripture references are from the NIV translation unless otherwise indicated.

Transcript

Jacqui: 0:13

Greetings and welcome to a special episode of our podcast. It's that time again the first Tuesday of the month when we dive into a vibrant discussion about engaging with God's Word. But today is extraordinary. Instead of our usual one-on-one conversation, we have an incredible duo joining us. Meet Minister Cynthia and Deacon Al Kelly, a dynamic power couple.

Jacqui: 0:46

Minister Cynthia Kelly was born in Vincenza, Italy. She has a BA degree from Rollins College, where she was a Division II college basketball player who earned 1,000 point status. Go girl. She is currently an adult Sunday school lead teacher at 1st Baptist Church of Glenarden and is currently attending Denver Seminary. As a master of divinity student, Min Kelly is fascinated by the inspired Word of God and loves discussing and teaching the exegetical details of Scripture. Deacon Al Kelly was raised in Philadelphia, Pa. Al graduated with a BA degree from University of Pittsburgh and has a master of business administration degree from the University of Maryland. He's also a US Navy veteran. Al is currently a facilitator with Brothers in Discipleship and an adult Sunday school lead teacher at 1st Baptist. Al is passionate about teaching and continues to strive to develop skills pertaining to his spiritual gift.

Jacqui: 2:04

Minister Cynthia and Deacon Al have been married for 36 years and have three wonderful children Together. Al and Cynthia enjoy serving in their church, traveling, discussing their Sunday school lessons and spending time with their children. Listeners, get ready for a great discussion as they share their perspectives on engaging with God's Word. Well, welcome everyone. I'm your host, Jacqui Adewole, and this is the Bible Basics Podcast, where weekly, we break down the Bible into understandable bite-sized chunks. Minister Cynthia Deacon, Al, welcome to the Bible Basics Podcast. So glad to have you all here.

Min Cynthia: 2:57

We are honored to be a part, so thank you for inviting us.

Deacon Al: 3:02

Thank you Jacqui. We appreciate you considering us to be a part of your podcast, so thank you very much.

Jacqui: 3:10

Thank you. So, ladies and gentlemen, you all heard about power couples. You know, like Beyonce and Jay-Z, Michelle and Barack, you know power couples, but what we have now is something better. Minister Cynthia and Deacon Al are a kingdom-minded power couple, so they're using their gifts together and separately to further the kingdom of God, and it's powerful. The kingdom is blessed for it and we here at Bible Basics are blessed to have them come share with us. So thank you again.

Min Cynthia: 3:48

Oh, my goodness, we need to record that. Well, lit's

Jacqui: 3:54

Step aside, Michelle and Barack, that's right, move over Barack.

Jacqui: 4:03

So you know we've talked about this. Our focus here is really trying to encourage people anyone but particularly new believers or people new to reading the Bible don't have to be a new believer, or even somebody who's curious about the Bible encouraging them to pick it up and read it and establish a better relationship with God. And I wanted to bring on teachers particularly to talk about that, to talk about what tips, what encouragement, what personal experiences you might have to help people along with that. So can you all just start out? You all share in your experience. You know how you came to be teachers or how you came to become users and readers of the Bible. How do you want to talk about that? Give us some background.

Min Cynthia: 5:01

Well, I'll go first. I will say this when I was teaching my kids how to learn math, I told them it was like a mystery. I said there's an answer, we just got to find it. So I made it like it was a mystery. We had to find the answer. So I feel similarly regarding the Bible as well, but I view it more as it's an onion, and once you start peeling back the layers, there are more layers. So once you start reading the Bible, you'll find that there's just so much more to uncover. It's almost like archeology, right, you start digging and you find some relics, but you dig some more and there are bigger, larger, better relics and you just keep digging. And that's how I feel about the word.

Jacqui: 5:53

Oh man, that's wonderful. I love that image of the onion Layers.

Min Cynthia: 5:59

Thank you, What do you think Al?

Jacqui: 6:01

you'll have.

Deacon Al: 6:03

I'll echo the layers. I remember when I was a new Christian. I just enjoyed reading scripture and I would study it and it was funny. I would share what I learned with so many other brothers and I would get mad that they didn't know it.

Deacon Al: 6:26

I'm just being honest with you I would get mad. And then one day God spoke to me and said they don't have the gift that you do. So I kind of knew when I was a brand new Christian that I kind of wanted to teach the Bible because I've always enjoyed studying it and I've always enjoyed talking about sharing, about what I've learned, and that desire has never left to this day. I'm like Cynthia we talk about what we learned almost every day and we share it, right, and there's always something new to discover about God in the Bible, in yourself, right? So I look at it as a journey that I started years ago and I'm continuing on it, and every day I learned something new and fascinating about God.

Jacqui: 7:21

I love that. I love that that's important to know, or to hear that it's a never ending journey or a better way to put an ongoing journey that we're always learning, we're always improving and have the opportunity to share, to talk about it with someone. They say I am sharpens iron, so maybe you've learned something today you share with Minister Cynthia. She shares what she's learned and it just gets better. That's wonderful.

Min Cynthia: 7:50

Oh, definitely, and we challenge each other too. What do you think this text means? I think it means this I think you need to study that some more. So we go back and forth like that, so it's a lot of fun.

Jacqui: 8:05

I can picture you all doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to tell you how they are in Sunday School as teachers. Minister Cynthia is fun. She's sometimes a little crazy, very animated storyteller, lover of maps and just super engaging, just like she is right now. You can hear that in her voice. Deacon Al is serious, he is focused. He is point A, point B, point C and point D, and this is where I found that in the Bible, and it's straight forward. But you learn so much from you, Deacon. I love the way that you present, and so the two of you. It's just great. It's great. So, being teachers, are there areas or challenges you noticed that maybe some of your students have because they don't have a background in reading the Bible. Any particular things that might come up that make you say, wow, they would understand this better if they spend some time reading? What I'm getting at is why read the Bible? What's the benefit of reading the Bible?

Min Cynthia: 9:20

Well, I'll say that reading the Bible regularly builds our faith. It also encourages us, gives us wisdom, it gives us instructions for our daily living, and a scripture I can share with you is Romans 10: 17, which says faith comes by hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. Now, that's the NIV translation and we'll talk more about that later. But faith comes by hearing. Hearing by the word of God is another way.

Min Cynthia: 9:56

Most people know that text. Probably that might be King James or New King James, and all scripture is good, is God breathed, and useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training and righteousness. So that's another reason we need to read the Bible. That's 2 Timothy, 3: 16. So it's really helpful in just everyday living and building our faith. We just came out of a lesson in Sunday school for a few months learning about faith, and that's one of the things we needed to do is not only trust in God. But how do you even get there? Well, you start with baby steps, and those baby steps could be listening to the Bible Basic Podcast and reading through certain texts in the Bible that we're going to talk about later. But it's to build your faith. What do you think?

Deacon Al: 10:48

Al. Yeah, the only thing that I'll add onto that is that it gives you I want to say the proper worldview. You know we're strangers in the world and the Bible gives us the perspective to see the world through God's eyes and God's mind, and it helps me understand why the world is the way it is and how to navigate in the world. So that's just one additional thing. I just want to add onto what Minister Cynthia said why it's important to read the Bible.

Jacqui: 11:26

I like that. I like that to help us even navigate in this world. How do we live as Christians? What about Christians who say but it doesn't make any sense. I'm reading this, I have no idea what they're talking about. When I read this particular scripture, this particular chapter, this particular book, how do you respond to that?

Min Cynthia: 11:54

I'll let you go Al. You go first this time.

Deacon Al: 11:57

Okay, well, we've all been there. You're a brand new Christian and you're eager to read scripture, and it might be a challenge understanding the book right. So for a new Christian, I think one of the benefits that I had was I had someone that discipled me. That was critical, because the person was always there to answer any questions that I had, challenged me to read scripture and eventually gave me assignments and I would read them and I would come back and we would discuss what I read and how I interpreted it and then we would have a conversation about that. So I believe for a new Christian, having someone that's a mature Christian to disciple them is very very, very important I agree with that Having a relationship with somebody who walks through it with you.

Jacqui: 13:01

Love that.

Deacon Al: 13:02

Cynthia, anything else to add?

Min Cynthia: 13:04

I would just say that reading the Bible is more than just reading the Bible. It is you're trying to learn the attributes and character of God. So if you're trying to get to know God better, what better way than to read his letter to us or his book to us? So I would say invest time, like if you're in a relationship with someone, you don't just text them, you want to spend time with them, you want to just be with them. So that's your way of being with the Lord, and spending time with him is delving into his love letter to us.

Jacqui: 13:41

So I would say invest some time. And I love it that you describe it as his love letter to us. That's beautiful.

Deacon Al: 13:49

And I would just have one more thing to add Take classes. I would tell you, the best class I took when I was a young Christian was how to study the Bible. That gave me basic foundation on how to study and understand Scripture.

Jacqui: 14:10

I agree with that. That course was helpful for me. One of the things that I got out of that course was the differences in translations, which I had no real understanding of until I took that class called How to Study the Bible, and we went through the different translations and compared and contrast and learning about the different approaches to translation. So I thought that was quite beneficial. Do you all have preferred translations? Why? And not only for yourself, but what would you recommend even for someone just getting started in Bible reading or even Bible studying?

Min Cynthia: 14:49

Well, for me, I prefer the NIV. The NIV and the NLT are considered what they call functional equivalents, where they take the translation and they put it more into the idioms or the English verbiage that we can understand today, so that makes it easier to read and understand. When I'm teaching, though, I will also use the ESV, the English standard version, but that is considered more of a formal equivalence where it's closely related or closely translated to the original Greek or Hebrew. So that's my favorite. I like the NIV.

Jacqui: 15:35

Well, I'm with you on that. I'm an NIV user as well. When studying, I'll look at different translations for comparison sake or to help me understand something, but I'm absolutely of the approach Use the translation that you'll read and the NIV is one that I'll read. Oh, that's good. How about you, Deacon Al?

Deacon Al: 15:56

Yeah, well, I regret that statement. Cynthia and I were talking about it. Use a translation that you enjoy reading. For me, I would say my daily reading is probably the Christian Standard Bible. It's a dynamic translation similar to the NIV. I like reading the CSB, but when I'm studying for a class or my own personal study, my primary texts are the New. American Standard and the English Standard version.

Min Cynthia: 16:28

They're more closely.

Deacon Al: 16:30

Cynthia said formal translations, so when I want to get serious in the word, I'll not permanently use the New American Standard or the ESV. I would say my lazy version is the New Living Translation. When I really don't want to think about something well, you know what does this mean I'll just read the New Living Translation.

Jacqui: 16:55

Yeah, that New Living Translation is pretty straightforward. I didn't have much experience in that the New Living Translation until recently. I have now a compact Bible, a smaller size Bible that you can carry around, and I decided to get NLT and I started looking at some things and I thought, wow, I've never seen that verse worded that way. That's different, Very easy to understand, but I'm still. Yeah, it's a big fan of NIV for sure. Yeah, that's great. One of the things I often get, or questions we get in addition to what translations I should use, is okay, I have a Bible, someone gifted me an NIV, I have somebody I can call and talk to them about it, but I don't have time. How do I get into this habit or even just some level of consistency when it comes to using the Bible, to reading it or to studying it?

Min Cynthia: 18:00

Well, one thing I'll share you just have to dedicate a time and a location. One thing I learned was you should have a location in your home for certain activities, right? So if you're gonna go to sleep, that's your bedroom. If you're gonna eat, you're in the dining room. So you're not gonna eat in your bedroom, you're not gonna sleep in your dining room, right? So you designate certain areas of your home for certain activities. So what you could do is designate a certain area in your home where you're going to read your Bible. You can set something up, maybe a little table where you put your cup of tea and you sit there. There's no TV, it's just you and your word and your cup of tea or your coffee, whatever. But if you designate a time and a place, I think it makes it a lot easier to transition to making it a habit and make it regular Absolutely absolutely,.

Jacqui: 19:02

Deacon Al, did you wanna add to that?

Deacon Al: 19:04

Yeah, I agree with Cynthia. I think one thing that'll help that I've noticed is write it down every day what your goals are each day. If you write something down, there's a higher probability that you're actually gonna do it. I've noticed that works for me. Like when I wake up, I'll write down my morning routine and part of it is go to WaWa, come home and study the Bible.

Min Cynthia: 19:34

Right, let me tell you, Wawa would not exist if Al Kelly did not go to WaWa. Oh my goodness, stock would fall if you never hear of them again.

Deacon Al: 19:45

The point I'm making is that you have a better chance of accomplishing your goals if you write them down. The thing that's really helpful is because there are some warnings that I don't have time to read I might have to go to work or something.

Min Cynthia: 20:02

Another alternative.

Deacon Al: 20:03

I listen to podcasts every morning right or my way to WaWa, so I'm normally listening to a sermon or someone teaching a Bible every morning when I get up and I get in my car, so that's another alternative as well.

Jacqui: 20:20

That's good, that's really good. And on that, you reminded me of the issue about technology. We have paper Bibles. We have Bibles on our phone now. We have all kinds of apps we can use. We can even Google the Bible. We also have audio Bibles where you can listen to it. Any thoughts about some of these various modalities that we have available to us?

Min Cynthia: 20:47

I like the app. I have an app on my phone for the Bible because you know, when you're out and about, you're not always carrying your Bible. Well, technically you are if you have it on your phone and you always carry your phone, so you always will have your Bible with you. You never know who you're going to encounter and you might want to, you know, share Romans road with them or something like that, or scripture that really ministers to you, that you know will minister to them. So it's always good, I think, to have the app on your phone that you can open up the Bible at any time.

Deacon Al: 21:20

Absolutely. It's good. I have everything on my Kindle and so I always have my Kindle with me, but I prefer paper with me. I enjoy just looking at the pages and making notes and so forth, which I can do, you know, with my Kindle, with my electronic Bible, but I prefer to have a paper copy in front of me and just reading the scripture from the pages, and I like to take notes and so I like that as well.

Jacqui: 21:59

I feel like with our paper Bible. By making notes and highlights and tabbing and all of that, you kind of develop your own study Bible things that are important to you, things that you may have heard or you thought about, or what God spoke to you regarding particular scriptures. You can make notes in your Bible and always come back to that in your own handwriting, and it's a little frustrating to me that I'm not able to do that even in my electronic Bibles, on my iPad, for instance. You know I have the Apple Pencil but the Kindle app doesn't let you write on it, so I'm not able to do that. So it's a little frustrating, but I use all of them, particularly like audio Bibles. I was telling someone earlier today about Psalms. Listening to Psalms read by one of these great readers is so beautiful, so powerful. It hits you a completely different way than reading it in my own voice. It's beautiful and just brings out all those emotions. You know David and other writers, happy, sad, angry, praising God, all of that. To hear someone speaking, it is really powerful.

Min Cynthia: 23:19

Agreed. There are times I do listen to an audio Bible. I don't have the app for that, I'll just Google it and say 1 Peter 1. I want them to read it to me, so that's what I'll do sometimes as I'm driving, if I haven't had a chance to get into the Word.

Jacqui: 23:36

That's good, that's really good. So technology is there for us nowadays, so we need to take advantage of it, definitely. Let's see, we talked about developing a habit or regular habit, taking classes, having someone to work with you. Do you all have any other kinds of tips or thoughts that you might want to share with the listeners, specifically focused on the Bible and engaging with the Bible?

Min Cynthia: 24:10

One thing I'll share is proper, what we call proper exegesis. It's taking reading the book, reading the text as if you're reading it from the viewpoint of the author. You have to take the context into consideration as well, because that's how we get tripped up on some scripture verses that don't mean what people are actually saying they mean because they took it out of context. You have to read it in context and you can't have any presuppositions going in to reading the text. What I mean by that is I can't allow my viewpoint or my personal beliefs to interpret the text. You have to interpret the text based on the author, who he's talking to. What was the culture, the history going on? What kind of history was going on at the time? That's a part of proper interpretation of the text. That's what I think most people need to learn.

Jacqui: 25:17

That's essential to read the Bible and try to listen to it. From the viewpoint of the original listeners, what would they have thought this particular scripture meant, or this pronouncement meant, or this parable meant? What did it mean to them? Before we get into what it means to us or how we interpret it, what was the author's intent when he was writing this gospel or letter?

Min Cynthia: 25:47

What do you think about that, Al?

Deacon Al: 25:49

I agree. My philosophy is that I'm not the apostle Paul. I wasn't the one that Christ commissioned. I wasn't the one that got the direct revelation from God. It's my responsibility to understand the intent. I'm using Paul as an example, but it's any biblical writer. What did they mean? Then I have to follow it. Sometimes there are some scriptures that may not agree with us, but ultimately we have to submit to what the Word of God has and says and have faith to follow it. The other thing that I will highly recommend to a new believer is don't be, afraid to invest.

Deacon Al: 26:46

What I mean is don't be afraid to invest in your education. I remember when I first got started. I think I purchased every sermon that Pastor Jenkins has preached. I don't know how many books I've purchased at the bookstore or any other place. Cynthia will tell you. The point I want to make is the value that you'll get out of your investment far exceeds what you put into it. The scripture says that all scripture has been inspired by God and it says it's profitable. I would say for any new Christian do not be afraid to invest.

Deacon Al: 27:31

Not only money in Bibles, commentaries, dictionaries and so forth, but also in classes, and invest your time, because the time that you put into it will far exceed what you put into it. That's my primary recommendation to a new believer where it comes to the Bible is invest.

Jacqui: 27:57

That's a great recommendation and it doesn't have to cost a lot of money.

Jacqui: 28:02

A lot of the seminaries have free online courses. You can go to YouTube to listen to lectures from known theologians or seminarians, teachers. It doesn't have to be an expensive effort. Ebay has used gently used books, both the Bibles and other resources. It doesn't have to be a major expense of money, but it does take our time. We do have to be willing to invest some time. That's really, really, really important. Let's talk about relevancy. Now we have some new believers, particularly young people, who are like okay, you're right, I'm trying to listen to a front of viewpoint of the person on the ground, the original hearer, that has nothing to do with my life, it's not relevant for me today. What do we tell them?

Min Cynthia: 29:08

You take that one Al Kelly.

Deacon Al: 29:10

Sure, sure. Scripture is relevant, right, whether it was written back in the time that the author wrote it or today. Like I said, the Bible gives you the proper worldview. If you are a new or if you're an older believer and you look at the world and you wonder why the world is the way it is, the Bible gives you the answer. The Bible will also give you an answer as far as understanding that, no matter how bad it appears to be, that God is still in control. The Bible gives you all the answers to questions that you need.

Deacon Al: 29:54

If you're a young person, how do I become a good husband to my wife? How do I become a wife to my husband? How do I become a good parent? How do I manage my money? How do I deal with difficult people? How do I survive when I'm going through trials? All those haven't gone away. Since day one, the Bible is relevant. That's why it's important to invest in Scripture, because the Bible tells us what we need to renew our mind. When we renew our mind, then we get this worldview. We have God's wisdom, we have God's knowledge. We know how to apply it into every area of our life.

Jacqui: 30:45

That's the answer I would give. I love that answer. I think that's so powerful. You gave some practical examples of the relevancy how we manage our money, relationships, marriages, work relationships. The list can go on and on and on. How we manage our emotions, temptations. I love that. That's excellent. Thank you for that. Wow, I think that that's a good place to end. What do you think? I think you're right. I think the Bible is relevant to us in every aspect of our life. Thank you for that. But guess what? We do have a little bit more time. I have a little more time. If you'll have a little more time, okay, I'll give you a quick round of. Would you rather?

Min Cynthia: 31:36

Oh no, okay, yes, let's do it Okay.

Jacqui: 31:41

So who's first? Who's up first? I'll go first. Minister Cynthia, would you rather face the trials of the prophets, who are often prosecuted for speaking God's truth, or the challenges of the apostles who had to get out there and spread the word, spread the gospel to the world?

Min Cynthia: 32:05

If I had to choose, I would rather be one of the prophets, and Elijah is one of my favorites. So not when he ran from Jezebel, I was better about that, but calling down fire from heaven, I'm all about that.

Jacqui: 32:20

Yes, okay, do you want to answer that or do you want another one?

Deacon Al: 32:27

I'll piggyback on that. I don't think there's really a wrong answer, but I'm going to say the apostles. The apostles had, I'm going to say, one more advantage than the prophets they actually got to spend time with Jesus himself. So I'm going to go with the apostles.

Min Cynthia: 32:47

Well, Elijah did get called home, honey. He didn't see that, so there I'm still going One up y'all Now.

Jacqui: 33:00

Okay, that's good, I like that. So would you rather be best friends with Peter or Paul? Who's your man?

Deacon Al: 33:12

Well, I think, personally, it's going to be all.

Jacqui: 33:18

You have to know both of them are cracking up laughing, so it's probably some inside joke. Around this topic there is Paul's a gangster.

Deacon Al: 33:28

Yeah, I'm going to say both of them were gangsters, right, Peter didn't exactly shy away from controversy either. But I'm going to say, personally, it's probably Paul. I love his writings, so for me to actually be with them and ask questions would be great. But you can't go wrong with Peter either, because, like I said, peter was the one that actually spent time with Jesus and imagine the stories that he was shared with you. But I'm going to go with Paul.

Jacqui: 33:58

Okay.

Min Cynthia: 34:01

Oh, definitely Peter, and that's because, again, I talked about calling down fire from heaven. Now I've got a sword and I will use it Now. Peter was passionate. He was passionate and fervent about the faith and about Jesus, and that's what I loved about him.

Jacqui: 34:20

Okay, okay, here's one for you then. Would you rather have Esther's opportunity or Joseph's opportunity?

Min Cynthia: 34:31

You know, I can go with Esther because she saved all of her people and she went before the king when it wasn't allowed, and so being able to stand up for what is right in the face of adversity, I admire that. I'm inspired by that.

Jacqui: 34:54

Take it out.

Deacon Al: 34:56

I'll go with Joseph. I would say with Joseph. Joseph is an example of standing firm in faith, regardless of what happened to him, and he's an example how God can elevate you if he remained faithful to him. So guys like him, they kind of build up my faith that things may not be going the way I wanted to go in the world at some point in time, but I also know that if I remain true to God, that eventually I will get to where he has me to go. So I'm going to go with Joseph.

Jacqui: 35:31

He definitely persevered, that's for sure. Yes, okay, here's one. Would you rather be, Joshua, at the wall of Jericho with your worship, using your worship as a weapon, seeing it really work? Or Gideon, with 300 soldiers going up against the Midianite army that had 135,000 soldiers? Who shoes would you rather be in?

Deacon Al: 35:59

You want to go first, Cindy?

Min Cynthia: 36:02

Oh, you can go.

Deacon Al: 36:04

Okay, I'm going to take Gideon. I mean, I'm all about praise and worship, but feel comfortable with a sword and some brothers with me.

Jacqui: 36:17

It's not what to be kidding, not the priests and the hornblowers.

Min Cynthia: 36:23

I'm all for the priests and the hornblowers because it shows the power, the omnipotence of God. Right, we just had to obey him and he did the rest, and I love that.

Jacqui: 36:37

Okay, that's good, let's go with one last one. Would you rather be in the lion's den with Daniel or sweating it out in the fiery furnace with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego?

Min Cynthia: 36:51

Well, I'm from Florida, so you already know my answer. I'm in the furnace, and mainly because their clothes weren't even singed. Not a hair on their head, nothing was singed. Here we are in the furnace, not being burned up. Talk about doing a praise dance. I would be praising God like, oh, this is unreal right. So definitely in the fiery furnace because what a testimony I will have when I come out.

Jacqui: 37:23

D. eacon Al, do You want to wrap this up with your answer to that.

Deacon Al: 37:26

Yeah, I'm going to agree with Minister Cynthia and for the exact same reasons that she had that's a powerful testimony to go into the fiery furnace and not be touched and come out alive. So I'm going to align with my beautiful wife on there.

Jacqui: 37:46

Now, that's the way to do it. Thank you then. Thank you all so much. See, I told you audience they are the anointed power couple. Thank you so much for joining us on the Bible Basics podcast and I can't wait to come back again.

Min Cynthia: 38:05

I'm looking forward to it. Thank you so much.

Jacqui: 38:11

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