53 FROM MGM+ Episode 7 Deep Dive: Rewatch "All Good Things"

In this thrilling episode of What Is From, Alex and Lizzie delve into the intense seventh episode of season one, "All Good Things." This episode is a turning point, where the stakes rise dramatically, and the tension reaches new heights. As always, our hosts share their insights and reactions, highlighting the key moments that make this episode unforgettable.

Join us as we explore the pivotal scenes, character developments, and shocking twists that had everyone talking. From Ellis's downward spiral to the tragic and terrifying invasion at Colony House, this episode is packed with emotional highs and devastating lows. We'll also discuss the complex relationships and the show's deeper mysteries, including the enigmatic creatures that haunt the town of From.

Timeline Summary

• [1:05] - Introduction and housekeeping: Alex and Lizzie clarify the episode and share ways to follow the show.
• [3:12] - Initial thoughts: Alex and Lizzie discuss their anticipation and dread about watching the episode.
• [5:33] - Party at Colony House: The atmosphere shifts as Ellis drinks heavily, leading to tension and confrontation.
• [10:40] - Kevin's fatal mistake: Kevin's tragic decision to open the window for Jasmine results in horrifying consequences.
• [15:22] - The monsters invade: The terrifying moment when the monsters break into Colony House, leading to chaos and death.
• [18:55] - Fatima and Ellis: Their desperate escape and the emotional aftermath of the night's events.
• [21:18] - Victor and Julie: Victor's mysterious actions and his attempt to protect Julie by leading her to the faraway tree.
• [24:30] - Boyd and Katri's confrontation: A crucial conversation revealing Katri's past and his reasons for keeping Sarah alive.
• [30:45] - The tragic end of Katri: The heart-wrenching scene where Katri succumbs to his injuries, leaving Boyd devastated.

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Transcript

Speaker 2: 0:02

Ah Welcome to the show. My name is Alex.

Speaker 3: 0:27

And I'm Lizzie.

Speaker 2: 0:29

And this is the what Is From cast At the time that we're recording it. It's an MGM Plus dedicated to the show From, and today we are looking at Season 1, Episode 4.

Speaker 3: 0:45

Seven.

Speaker 2: 0:47

What did I say?

Speaker 3: 0:47

Episode seven.

Speaker 2: 0:49

I did. Oh, I thought I said seven, okay.

Speaker 3: 0:51

You said episode four.

Speaker 2: 0:52

I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 3: 0:55

Been there, done that, my friend.

Speaker 2: 0:57

As I said, episode seven, all good things, and this is the episode of episodes where everybody that we talked to from the cast this was the one thing that everybody talked about. But before we get into it, I just wanted to say, if you're listening to the show, thank you, and if you'd like to subscribe to any of our platforms, whether it's youtube or uh podcast or whatever, please do, just hit that like subscribe. All that good stuff. Also, we do still have our Etsy shop going on and you can just go to Etsy what is from shop and you're good to go, all right, and so.

Speaker 3: 1:43

I see Lucy Hi.

Speaker 2: 2:08

Lucy. So, like I said that epsi shop, just go to what is from shop and away we go. So, that said, we are doing our rewatch of episode seven. Evidently, uh, season one, all good things. And what were your first thoughts about this?

Speaker 3: 2:24

the episode I didn't want to watch it because I knew what was coming, but still it's. I'm hanging by a thread, even though I've seen it multiple times, and I know what's going to happen.

Speaker 2: 2:41

Right, I mean, it's a great episode.

Speaker 3: 2:44

Yeah, and I know now we don't fully say goodbye to Father Khatri, but then I didn't know and I was so surprised at the time. It happened so fast, so quickly and I just missed him being there. I feel like there was more to be learned from him, but I don't know. I definitely have been having thoughts since we recorded last some thoughts, but anyway, what did you think?

Speaker 2: 3:20

I mean, it's obviously one of my favorite episodes. A lot happens, there's a lot of blame to go around, and I just think that from this episode, the from comes together as a group. There's really not Colony House and there's really not the town after this episode, it's just one group. I mean, again, we're going ahead, but I just love how the monsters have so many levels or layers, so to speak, and this is where we really get Smiley at his best.

Speaker 2: 4:02

This is the first time that we really get a look at him and you know, in our intro for those of you watching on youtube that scene where he's looking down, it's the creepiest scene and I don't know if we coined the phrase smiley, but I'm almost certain we did when we asked we did when we talked to donna that first time we talked to liz saunders and we talked to everybody about it and it was liz saunders, we we talked to first because she was like, I don't even know who that is, but he just creeped the crap out of me.

Speaker 3: 4:42

Yeah, I mean, she knew who we were talking about, um, but that scene, that picture of him looking over the banister, is iconic for the show.

Speaker 2: 4:54

It's the class, it's a classic yeah yeah, so, but that that said, why don't we get into the show and hopefully we can get through it um in an hour, so we can go to sleep and let an early call an hour away tomorrow so that makes it even better. But we start out, and I'll start it off a little bit. That first scene you've got Ellis and he's drinking his flask.

Speaker 3: 5:30

Well, we're still at the party, we're still at Fatima's. That's what I mean. Yeah To set that scene. We're still at Fatima's party, yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:42

Adam is party, yeah, and Ellis comes in and he's all drinking and he's got his flask and he's like pre-gaming as a tailgate and he's having a good time, but you know it's not a good time and Julie is just looking at all this like what the frig is going on here.

Speaker 3: 6:08

Well, he's not in the room with Julie and Fatima yet Because they switched to the bedroom, the attic bedroom, and Fatima is looking under the bed for something and Fatima is looking under the bed for something. And Fatima says that she's looking at the party the wrong way. It's about celebrating survival and it reminds everyone that it's possible and it's nice to have a party once in a while. And she finds this sweater, this like yellow mustard colored sweater, and she says that Trudy loves it and it's Alice's favorite sweater on Fatima. And Julie tells Fatima that she makes this place almost seem like it's normal and she says Fatima says that they are all special, even Trudy. Then Ellis comes in and he wants to pregame and Fatima tells him to go easy. Julie doesn't want to. Ellis tells them that they suck and he goes to look for Victor. Like I can't imagine Ellis sitting there having just drinking, drinking, drinking with Victor and he was just.

Speaker 2: 7:31

What I kind of liked about it was he's like, hey, my girls and a lot has happened since Julie's gotten there They've kind of become a little family between the three of them, or a roommate and couple, yeah, and when people have their ups and downs, these things kind of happen. I love the fact that, uh, ellis is like trying to engage victor and we get a little bit more a taste of what victor's about, because he wants no part of it.

Speaker 3: 8:05

He's just I'm not even at it go away.

Speaker 2: 8:10

I don't want any part of this. The shit's hitting the fan with all the cars and everything else, like dude, what is your freaking problem? I don't even drink. I'm like 12 years old mentally and you're gonna ask me to drink? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2: 8:25

But then donna comes in, or donna, uh, and ellis have a little bit of a thing and he's like you said and he's trying to like hold that cup up with the booze and donna's just like dude, you know, get out of here. And um, but what I like about that scene, or even just this episode, is it's weird when you first watch it, but when you put it together with the whole, the whole season, we know why he's so like screwed up today, because I mean, his mom, this place, everything has gone to shit and what's kind of sad is that the only thing he does have is fatima, and we always hurt the ones we love the most, I guess. But, um, sorry for jumping in, because I think there's something else important that you want to talk about when it comes to Donna and Victor in this scene.

Speaker 3: 9:36

I just have to catch up because you were not going in order and it's throwing me off.

Speaker 2: 9:42

Okay, well, no, I kind of did, but I'm on the third line.

Speaker 3: 9:47

So Victor's in the kitchen because he's looking for peaches and they're out of peaches. But she's been putting some other things aside for him, like fruit cocktail and cranberries, but I don't think that those things hold the same interest and comfort for him that peaches do. Victor says that all the peaches are gone and all these years it's the one thing that's never changed. But we don't know how he gets the peaches.

Speaker 2: 10:23

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 10:24

We also know that things which they haven't really talked about, but like things just kind of come to be Like Mrs Lou puts on a big spread every day.

Speaker 2: 10:38

Right, where's all that food coming from?

Speaker 3: 10:40

Yeah, where is she getting the bisquick Right? Because they're not milling flour there, they've only got livestock in that they get, they probably get some milk.

Speaker 2: 10:53

It would be really interesting if the cupboards would stay full, yeah, like full, but like in the morning there's like three more there or something, yeah, which we don't know about, and that's kind of an interesting little thing that we not that we need to do a deep dive on it, but it's just one of those.

Speaker 3: 11:17

Just do a deep dive on it we don't know how that comes about.

Speaker 2: 11:21

deep dive it's like okay, they just materialize and I mean it happens, they happen to have stuff. But I think there's more. Victor has a great. I wish people would talk in this place. I know I've been saying it since day one and if everybody kind of just talked about what's going on, we have a better sense of what's going on. And Victor is always dismissed because he's victor and something coming up I think really solidifies why he's in season two. I think um, but uh, yeah, no, that conversation it was just kind of sad, but I think it has a bigger um of sad, but I think it has a bigger um meaning to from, I think.

Speaker 3: 12:11

But let's press. Well, I'm not sure, I think, what it's doing, what the whole point of that conversation is, that it's another sign that things are changing. Yeah, no, and this, like donna says she's sorry, he walks away dolefully and she looks sad and it just seems him being doleful. That makes sense because he wants peaches, but she's sad. That just seems a little bit too deep for this particular thing that they're just out of peaches.

Speaker 2: 12:50

Well, I think it's a well to me. The way I look at it is Donna's like a mother to him and you don't want to disappoint your kid, and I mean I've done that with Lucy, I've done that with my daughter. We're out of this, but you know we'll get some more at the store.

Speaker 3: 13:09

Right, exactly. You're going to get more at the store. We don't know, until they get more.

Speaker 2: 13:15

But my point being is she hasn't been getting more?

Speaker 3: 13:20

We don't know. She just hasn't yet, like he's saying.

Speaker 2: 13:27

I think. No, I think you're, I think you're.

Speaker 3: 13:31

We don't know if they had a finite amount, like they got a pallet of peaches to work with when they're gone, or if they appear periodically. Well, he's been eating peaches from the uh the truck for years right, but food does not stay good in cans for years and years they expire.

Speaker 2: 14:02

He's a 50 year old man, my point for 40 years being is the magic is gone with the peaches, and that's the problem. Like that's. The problem that donna is seeing is like this is what we got. The magic isn't coming back like the storage we don't know that it's not coming back. They we just know that they're out okay, fine, I I I will just agree to disagree I don't know that we're even in that realm I I fine all right.

Speaker 3: 14:35

So then we just have a quick scene, um, on the, the porch, where kevin leaves a bouquet of flowers and a woman tells him to come on because it's going to come in, because it's getting dark out.

Speaker 2: 14:50

So yeah, he's the biggest piece of crap in the whole entire from universe.

Speaker 3: 14:57

Well, yeah, he's just very insecure. I mean like insecure I mean like insecurities call caused a big problem how, like, are you all right?

Speaker 2: 15:10

fine, I'm just gonna drop it because it just goes to show you guys are dumb, sometimes creatures in the world and is the embodiment of stupidity and loneliness and I get this thing he's thinking with the wrong brain right and so yeah it just angers me because, as awesome as this episode is and it's an awesome episode- yeah it should have been prevented, which I know it can't be, because it wouldn't have made it so good.

Speaker 3: 15:52

But like dude what we'll get to it, but oh yeah, so, um, it's just more exposition about everyone getting ready for the night. Boyd's walking down the street ringing the bell. The thing that I noticed is that three girls walk into the house that Nathan and Sarah shared, so apparently people have moved right in there's a vacancy.

Speaker 2: 16:21

They just don't even paint, they just leave the blood on the wall. I mean it's so funny how you know they just don't even paint, they just leave the blood on the wall.

Speaker 3: 16:24

Yeah, there's no need.

Speaker 2: 16:26

I mean it's so funny how, but they have to do that. It's not like they can go to the general store, slash whatever with the peaches right next to it as the paint. I mean because nothing was painted.

Speaker 3: 16:39

Yeah. So then on to the Matthews house, where Tabitha and Ethan are on the couch. Tabitha's reading a book to Ethan and she says there was so much joy on the faces of all the new wondrous friends that she had made. And she's reading about the Kramanakal. Then we're at the sheriff's office. Katri sits on the step waiting for Boyd to come in and he has a bag in his hand. Tabitha so much magic in all the marvelous places that she had been. Boyd's ringing the bell. And then Matthew's, back to the Matthew's house, Tabitha's reading. Yet the Cromonocle had a feeling there was still more yet to come and that her adventures in this strange new world truly had only just begun. So we're seven episodes in and it's still talking about this having just begun so I have a question yeah do you believe in the chrono knuckle now, at this point in the show?

Speaker 3: 17:45

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:46

Okay, do you believe in the Kramanakal after season two?

Speaker 3: 17:53

Yeah, I mean once we get there into season two, I think I'll be better able, or more able to talk about it, given that I am spending more time looking at the possible things going on here. But in the last episode, when Victor said to Ethan, I was the chosen one and I failed. Now you're the one that's been chosen. So that's the whole thing. Cromonacle. The Cromonacle was chosen to solve whatever problem the puzzle, or get them home or whatever it was.

Speaker 2: 18:41

So yeah, so, um, yeah, I throw that out there because I I'm kind of up in the air that you're not open to it. Like I want it to be the promenade, I really want it to be the book. But the problem with these writers is they keep throwing stuff in that just it seems like there's extra pieces when you're building a Lego set.

Speaker 3: 19:11

To me.

Speaker 3: 19:12

Yeah, no, but you're not wrong there. There's an awful lot going on simultaneously, like I feel like they all have a separate purpose for being there. And second season, it was like Boyd was on a game board and when he got to the very end, it's like he solved the puzzle. When he got to the very end, it's like he solved the puzzle. Tabitha was on a journey and she got out of the game Like she won, which makes me wonder. Well, I know, that's what I'm not saying. This is 100, but you know it's like she won.

Speaker 2: 20:01

She's on the next level. She's on the next level and like maybe that's where.

Speaker 3: 20:04

Victor's mom and sister are. It's like she won, where she got to a new level. A new level, a new level, and like maybe that's where Victor's mom and sister are I don't remember if he saw their bodies or not Got yanked out of the game. The other person that was in the house wasn't meant to play that game. Maybe he got on the bus by accident.

Speaker 2: 20:27

Again, I keep bringing it up because I just they did such a good job of this crom monocle storyline. Now maybe you can't make it that simple, you know. I mean it can't just be that, people. I mean if it, then it would probably be over in a season.

Speaker 3: 20:43

But it could be that the broad sense is the Kramanakal's journey. That's the broad story. But within that story there's these other things going on. Yeah, it's like different people have different things. But first Victor, then Ethan, they're the Kramenakl and maybe, if they can get all the way through the journey, it overall solves the game. I don't know overall solves the game. I don't know. It's just interesting and sad just watching Jade lose his mind.

Speaker 2: 21:32

Well, I will say this and when we get to it in just a minute, like literally in just a minute, his transformation is totally amazing. And let's get into that.

Speaker 3: 21:49

Are we going to that or are we going to? No? We're at the Lou's house. Kenny knocks on the door and he tells Jade that Mrs Lou is calling them to dinner. Jade is scribbling the symbol over and over in a book and it's like he's hypnotized. Kenny sees the book, asks what Jade is doing and tells Jade that he was reading that book. Jade says that there's no other paper there. So Jade took the book that Kenny was reading the book that Kenny and Christy swapped back and forth and starts drawing the symbol, like he is possessed with that symbol.

Speaker 2: 22:29

I love it. I love Jade's answer after this.

Speaker 3: 22:32

There's no other paper there.

Speaker 2: 22:34

No. The next thing he says well, I could go on the wall, but that would be psychotic, or something like that.

Speaker 3: 22:40

Like do you want me to write on your walls like a psychopath?

Speaker 2: 22:44

Like he's already not a psychopath, but I just love.

Speaker 3: 22:46

He's already a psychopath, like in a sense, like because he's losing his mind.

Speaker 2: 22:53

Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 3: 22:54

No, I'm just saying like he's not. He's trying to be methodical the same way he solves every problem, but he's not. He's stuck on this symbol. Now, the second time he sees the symbol he gets stuck on it. So, back at the sheriff's office, khatri is still there waiting. Boyd comes up and Khatri thinks that there's some things that they need to talk about in private.

Speaker 2: 23:22

Oh, I know, Could he be any more melodramatic? Yeah, I mean, hey, sean, I know you're not listening, but you played it really awesome. But, dude, you had to turn it down to like 10.

Speaker 3: 23:35

Well, maybe they had him turn it up.

Speaker 2: 23:40

All the priests, don't get all the little boys. You could have turned it down just a little bit All right.

Speaker 3: 23:46

So Boyd tells him to come back in the morning, but Katri's like nope, it's got to be tonight. And so Boyd's like, well, it's a sleepover, Everybody. It's a sleepover, it's a sleepover I love that.

Speaker 2: 24:01

I guess we're having a sleepover.

Speaker 3: 24:03

Yep. So then they're in the office and Khatri notices that Boyd has been packing, and Boyd said he was going to talk to Khatri about that too. And so then back to the Matthews house. Jim is sitting at the table diagramming a tower for the radio. He's using paper that there is print on, which is to Jade's point. Tabitha comes in saying that Ethan has passed out, and Jim jokes about Ethan digging in the basement all day. Tabitha says that he had fun helping. They both get nervous when they take their eyes off of him. Kim says that the windows are nailed shut, the doors are locked and Ethan wouldn't be able to let a monster in. And I had a thought when he said that why don't the monsters light the houses on fire so that the people have to come running out?

Speaker 3: 25:05

That's a very good theory, but it's a question, but like that would be one way of getting around the talisman. Well, you're going to hang those up, we're going to make you run away from them. So Tabitha worries about Julie at the colony house and Jim reassures her that Donna's taking care of her. Tabitha asks how, which is like interesting that he says that this night. Tabitha asks how it's going and Jim says he will need all the building materials and every battery they have will be drained and Donna will have to let them build on the highest ground at colony house but that it's promising enough for everyone to hate them when it fails. And Jim says that that static is a far cry from a signal. So they kid about the oh, my laundry is done. They kid about the basement and tabitha goes back down to dig.

Speaker 2: 26:09

Now do you want to take a second? No, I don't care. I didn't know if it was going to keep beeping no, it'll be fine.

Speaker 3: 26:18

um, so up at the colony house, fatima and ellis are at the party and Ellis has had way too much to drink, so he insists that he's fine because it's a party and tells her not to worry. But she is worried. I mean, who wants to? Like he could be thrown up all over the place.

Speaker 2: 26:37

Like a girlfriend never has to worry about their drunken boyfriend ever yeah.

Speaker 3: 26:44

Well, he's drunk, he doesn't know what he's saying.

Speaker 2: 26:46

No, I'm just saying we've all been there.

Speaker 3: 26:49

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 26:50

We've had our drunken significant other who's just having a bad, whatever, and you just gotta deal with it and hopefully, because she's like, oh, he'll be fine, he'll be fine, he's just gotta sleep it off.

Speaker 3: 27:01

Yeah, so Donna gathers everyone to celebrate Fatima. One year ago, fatima arrived, so I, of course, have her on the board. Whoops, I've got to get this to the right way. All right, I don't know if anyone can even see this, but we have the Matthews family and Jade arriving at the same time. This is six nights ago. Six nights, sarah, four to five months ago, with Nathan Christy. Six months ago, fatima, one year, and we'll stop there for now.

Speaker 2: 27:49

What I find interesting is Victor really was alone for a long time. That's the first thing. And also it was seven days, Because the only reason I say it's seven days when Boyd walks to the, to the thing it said seven what when. Boyd goes when Boyd goes to his house what does it say?

Speaker 3: 28:17

seven days without?

Speaker 2: 28:18

a seven.

Speaker 3: 28:21

I think it's wrong because okay it.

Speaker 2: 28:23

Very well may be, yeah, it may be going into the seventh day, but I'm just saying what it's like, and the only reason I noticed that is I just watched it. Like I literally just watched it, but it doesn't really matter. The point is it's only been like about a week.

Speaker 3: 28:41

Yeah, and I'm only disagreeing because I've been keeping very careful track of it, because I wanted to know, yeah, cause it's day six when we start this. Because I wanted to know. And day six carried over because, um, I want, I w, cause I think it was like two weeks when, um, the bus shows up, but I wanted to know, the bus shows up, but I wanted to know. So one year ago, fatima arrived. All have come to love her for various things, including her weed. Donna says that Fatima has made this big old drafty box feel like a little bit more like home and wishes her happy anniversary and gives her a gift which is a dream catcher and they hug. Donna says that they are so lucky to have her and they both get sniffly. Donna tells everyone to drink smoke, have fun and keep an eye on each other. A woman comes up to Fatima and this is a big deal to Julie wishes her happy anniversary and kisses her passionately, while Julie looks on.

Speaker 2: 29:49

Julie doesn't know what to do with what she's just seen and walks away stunned because like she's trying to figure out how she fits in absolutely yeah, like I mean there's a lot going on, because she was like the third wheel of Fatima and Alice in a good way, yeah, go. And then it's like wait, who is this person? And why is she sucking face with Fatima? And what about Alice?

Speaker 2: 30:20

I mean because you gotta remember she's a kid yeah so still trying to deal with new boyfriends and whatever else at that time, even though she's a, in the last seven days she's matured a lot and with the fight, like she knows what's up with her family. So I mean there's a lot going on there and I just know with a nine year old there's a lot of emotion I can't imagine and I don't want to think about high school slash ever again is no, as it's bad enough as a guy, never mind a a girl, going through everything like that.

Speaker 2: 31:02

So it really is very telling and we all are trying to. First off, there's the one layer of you're trying to fit into society, whatever society you're in. Then you have to. Also, how do I fit into this colony house, which I did because I was trying to get back at my parents and nothing is going right.

Speaker 3: 31:26

Well, I think she was reacting to knowing that her parents were divorcing and she was in a sense saying you want to divorce each other, I'm going to divorce you and I'm going to go on this separate direction. And she's in the colony house and I don't think she expected the complexities that she's encountering and she's created this or she's working on this relationship with Fatima. That she doesn't fully, 100% understand and but she knows she likes Fatima and Ellis a lot and when this other woman comes up, she doesn't like it throws her for a loop because she doesn't know where she fits in. Now she knew where she was.

Speaker 2: 32:22

And this just goes back to kids and accountability in terms of this, just what you just said, I'm going to show you. I'm going to divorce you. Well, you know what there's consequences to that and I know it's kind of a different conversation which I'm not going to get into, but I just think that you're absolutely right. How do I fit in this world? How do I fit in the world just in general?

Speaker 2: 32:48

this friend, my good friend, my only friend, is this other thing which I have no idea about, and how am I gonna deal with this?

Speaker 3: 32:58

yeah, so I'm out of nowhere because, like the thing is, she was probably expecting normal world issues. She wasn't really thinking about the things that she's encountering in this house, so some of it has really and truly been a surprise. So now we're at the sheriff's office and things are getting underway between Katri and Boydd, and Boyd says the plan is to find a way out of here once and for all before it comes crashing down around them and then says it's your turn. So Katri shows him his bag and says that he buried the bag the day that he arrived. He puts it on Boyd's desk and tells him to open it. Boyd starts going through it and pull some things out. He pulls out the bottle of alcohol and comments oh, you've been holding out. And then the bloody shirt, and wants to know if the blood on the shirt is Katri's.

Speaker 2: 34:01

I love that question. I just it was like because in this place who the hell knows?

Speaker 3: 34:08

Yeah, it could be anything.

Speaker 2: 34:09

anything country could have been in a bad accident or whatever like what I love about this conversation and I'm gonna let you finish in just a second, I know I keep jumping off it's just that I love the dialogue in this sense they're putting their cards out. We're trying to figure this out where, where, 99% of the time, everybody is like so secretive.

Speaker 3: 34:35

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 34:37

And what Katri says in the beginning of this, which is so important, is we never talked about our lives before we got here. Right, and I think that may be a key to either why they're there or how they get out.

Speaker 3: 34:54

Yeah. So Khatri tells him there's another item in the bag and Boyd pulls out a candy wrapper and then asks what's going on. Khatri says that they've never discussed who they used to be before they came here. A young boy in his congregation who would get excited when his mother would let him put a dollar in the collection plate. One day after mass he found the boy lingering outside the rectory and this was unusual because he wasn't the kind of kid that would stray away from his parents. The parents were strict and rigid, hinting that the parents were abusive to keep the kid behaved. And I think Khatri takes a drink. I'm assuming that's who I meant by he. I took a drink after that. Okay, okay, that makes sense. Okay. The boy was upset and asked if he could stay for a while. But Katria had to prepare for the evening mass and he didn't want the parents to worry. So he gave him a candy bar and sent him home, and the boy didn't want to go.

Speaker 3: 36:05

Later that night he went by the house unusual of making house calls but something was nagging at him and as he walked up the driveway the mother came running out, hysterical, inconsolable. He could smell the alcohol when he went through the door. The father was standing there, panicked, with a dumbfounded look on his face, yelling get up to the boy. Khatri walked over and stepped in the room and there he was, the sweet, innocent boy just lying there, broken. His neck was bulging in a way. I could see his pocket. In his pocket was the candy bar. Father said the boy would be fine, but the way he said it sounded indignant.

Speaker 3: 36:45

The next thing I knew I was on top of him, smashing his face as hard as I could. I couldn't stop. I just kept hitting him over as I could. I couldn't stop. I just kept hitting him over and over again. I couldn't stop. Even when I felt the bones in my hand start to break, I couldn't stop. I was the one who was supposed to listen. I was the one who was supposed to defend the defenseless. That sweet little boy came to me begging for help and all I could do was give him a candy bar a fucking candy bar and he throws the wrapper violently.

Speaker 3: 37:19

Now, um, oh crap, I don't remember what I was gonna say. So the next thing I remember I was standing on a bridge holding that bottle in my hand, and it was the first time in my life that I heard the voice of God. He told me to get back in the car and that there was another path for me to follow. So I did, I got back in the car and I drove and two hours later I was here. So Katri mentions God and what God said and this was the way. He way. What the heck was I trying to say? I don't know what P-O-N means Path, and that this may be his path. Oh my gosh, sometimes the handwriting Alex, alex, anyways. So boyd is asking why he's telling him this all now? Because, like I don't know sometimes you know to your point, why hadn't they talked about stuff yet? Or before, because I have sarah tied up in the basement of the church.

Speaker 2: 38:29

I'm sorry, or you would think they would have talked more, because they're so kind of close it's kind of, not that he's his right hand man, because obviously that's Kenny, but he does protect Kenny.

Speaker 2: 38:43

Those two it's like Donna, him, katri, are kind of like the peers, they're the, they're the. And then kind of like the peers, they're the, they're the. And then we've got the lose, and maybe Alice and Fatima as that that second layer Cause they're kind of like lieutenants, because obviously blue is the food and Kenny is the deputy. Oh, and then also Christie. Yeah, christie's on the second level with them. I mean trying to think about that. It's kind of an interesting deal.

Speaker 3: 39:18

Yeah. So look, I've always known there's a reason we're here. Boyd pulls his gun on Cautry because Cautry's got Sarah that there's a path to follow. And I know it may seem. Khatri turns to face Boyd and Boyd cocks the gun. Boyd says tell me you're joking, tell me you're motherfucking joking. And Khatri asks if Boyd is going to shoot him. And Boyd says he might shoot him. And Boyd says you told me that Frank broke the rules. Frank had to go in the box, and now you just the girl. Katri says that the girl may be the key to unlocking all of this. The girl may be the way we all go home. Boyd tells him to keep talking. So now we're back up at the colony house. We've been waiting for this. Kevin goes into the bathroom while everyone is partying downstairs. He pulls up the shade and Jasmine is waiting for him. Did you notice that she's facing away from the window Like she's standing on a little porch?

Speaker 2: 40:27

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 40:29

And there's no porch there. No, well, the old lady did the little porch.

Speaker 2: 40:31

Yeah, there's no porch there. No, well, the old lady did the same thing.

Speaker 3: 40:34

Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2: 40:38

This whole scene infuriates me so much.

Speaker 3: 40:42

Because of Kevin.

Speaker 2: 40:44

Kevin is such a dick, I'm sorry. He is the definition of why animals should eat their young. I am so and I this actor is probably a great guy, whatever well, I mean, it's not a real person. He acted the crap out of this and I hated it and just and just go on, just go on.

Speaker 3: 41:12

So he pulls up the shade and Jasmine is waiting for him. She's facing away from the house and says that she's only come to say goodbye. He asks why. He doesn't understand Please talk to me. She comes close to the window and asks why he won't let her in. He tells her she knows why he can't. He asks her to stay and talk with him. She responds with you said you liked me, and then he says that he does. She says that she can't keep coming here, knowing that she'll see him but she'll never get to feel him, knowing that he's afraid of her, that he's disgusted by her. He protests a little bit and she continues with you always tell me how lonely you are in there. You have no idea how lonely it is out here. It wasn't my choice to be this way. Goodbye, kevin. And she starts to turn and he's like wait, kevin.

Speaker 2: 42:09

Says you know the oldest trick in the book.

Speaker 3: 42:13

Oh my God, he's so easy. Kevin says there's a party going on downstairs, everybody's having a good time, but you're the only one I want to be with. You're the only one I can really talk to. You promise, it'll just be you, no one else will get in. And she says not once they shut the window, I promise. He smiles and says okay. Kevin grabs a crowbar and starts pulling nails from the nailed shut window. So now we're in the kitchen with our favorite guy, dale. Dale is holding court, talking about the number of dimensions and the bosonic string theorists believing that there are 26 dimensions, but super string theorists say there are only 10. Ellis comes in to get more booze. Einstein thought that all time coexist simultaneously, so that's his idea of strengths. Dale is talking to the woman, stacy, the one that Fatima was kissing.

Speaker 2: 43:24

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 43:25

He asked if this is a dimension and he says no, it's a pocket universe. Dale is trashed. Ellis tells him that's enough. Not a pocket universe or whatever Dale thinks it is, nobody gives a fuck. So why don't you shut the fuck up? Dale tells him to have another drink and to calm down. Ellis advances on him and knocks on his, knocks his bottle of what looks like crown royal out of Dale's hand and pulls Ellis away and tries to calm him down. Oh wait a minute. No, pull out of Dale's hand.

Speaker 3: 43:58

Ellis keeps asking what Dale is going to do, baiting him to fight. Fatima comes and pulls Ellis away and tries to calm him down. Dale tells her to take him upstairs before he starts shooting up the place, both Fatima and Ellis give him the oh no, you didn't look. Ellis goes back to Dale, but Fatima and Donna stop it. Fatima calms and centers Ellis and he apologized and he decides to go up and lay down and tells her to stay and enjoy her night. Dale just can't leave it alone and says that Atlas is an animal like mother, like son, which earns him a punch from Donna.

Speaker 3: 44:42

I remember we talked to Liz about that.

Speaker 2: 44:45

She was very satisfied with that and to their relationship. He's a great actor. Yeah. He plays a really good jerk yeah, and the fact is, him and Ellis should never be in the same room Ever, because every time he's with Ellis gets hurt. Yeah, and not ready. We need to start a petition, get those two away from each other and be done with it.

Speaker 3: 45:14

I can't see either one of them leaving that house, though. So now we're back in the bathroom. Kevin opens the window and helps Jasmine in, just like a gentleman. She tells him to close the window real quick. She drops the flowers and says see just the two of us. He comments that her hands are so warm. She asks if he thought that they'd be cold. She tells him to kiss her. They kiss, and she goes in deep and lifts his shirt. Her nails are short and normal, and then they scratch his back with really long nails. Now they're long and pointed, leaving blood trails. He slaps her hand and cries out in pain. She latches on and bites off his tongue and he backs away, spewing a river of blood from between his teeth. She morphs and goes after him I just you know what.

Speaker 2: 46:09

The fact that she ripped out his tongue was like the best part of that, because he's he should never have been talking. He deserved everything he got and he killed those people because of he's an idiot. Yeah, and I understand loneliness and everything else.

Speaker 3: 46:26

I totally get that, yeah he was just thinking about his Johnson.

Speaker 2: 46:30

But I'm just saying like hang out with Trudy, yeah.

Speaker 3: 46:35

I mean Trudy. Maybe he'd already ridden that ride, I don't know. He'd already ridden that ride. Yeah, maybe he has.

Speaker 2: 46:45

He had two tickets on that ride.

Speaker 3: 46:47

Maybe she was like no, no, thanks, you can. No, no thanks, you can keep it, kevin, it was just so.

Speaker 2: 46:55

and then she opens the window and then she just walks away like hey, hello, we're open for business guys.

Speaker 3: 47:02

Yeah. So back in the Lou house we're in Jade's room. Jade is in his room laying laying on his bed, awake. When Kenny comes in to tell him that dinner is ready, Jade says he's not hungry. Kenny says that Jade's been staring at that book for a day and a half, which can't be true. Jade throws the book and tells Kenny to F off. Mrs Lou comes in and starts yelling at Jade.

Speaker 2: 47:28

I love this. I love this.

Speaker 3: 47:31

Jade sits up in bed. Jade surrenders and says that he's coming. Kenny advises him that it's best not to take too long. If he were him, jade responds in Cantonese. He's already learned some Cantonese just being in that house a day. So now we're back in Colony House on the second floor. Fatima comes up the stairs while people are talking and are at the party. She sees Trudy and tells her to work on her party face. She asks what Trudy is doing sitting there alone. Trudy tells Fatima that she doesn't have to bother since she knows that Fatima doesn't like her. Fatima says it's not true and Trudy says that it's such a nice party. Fatima says that she will get one too. Trudy doesn't think that she will. Fatima thinks for a second and tells Trudy to take off her shirt and that Trudy drives her crazy sometimes, but they are in this together and gives Trudy her mustard sweater that Trudy adores so much.

Speaker 2: 48:33

Really, this is so sad. I can't believe they did this.

Speaker 3: 48:41

What kills off Trudy. She tells her that she's not alone and Trudy puts on the sweater. Fatima says for her to think of it as an early gift for her anniversary. Fatima tells Trudy that the sweater looks better on her anyway and Trudy says it's wildly untrue, but thank you. Trudy says that she's going to go find something to give to her too and goes. Julie joins Fatima telling her that was a nice thing to do. Julie asks about Stacy, the girl that Fatima kissed. Julie says that she thought that Fatima and Alice were together. Like I mean, if Julie's just been leading this standard like boring life, it wouldn't have occurred to her that this would happen. Fatima says that Ellis is her person, the thing with Stacy's just fooling around. Julie uneasily asked Fatima if she can kiss her, not getting the 100% response she was looking for. Julie backs off saying that she was kidding and runs away. So that's like typical teenager.

Speaker 2: 49:50

I couldn't be any more typical teenager. Yeah, yeah, I mean it's just kind of you take a shot, you get shot down. I'm going to go run away.

Speaker 3: 50:01

Yep, that's the only thing to do I don't know.

Speaker 2: 50:05

I think most adults would do the same thing.

Speaker 3: 50:07

Yeah, yeah, I would. I mean, who wants to be turned down?

Speaker 2: 50:12

I mean if you're going to go after somebody, she's like the best person to go after.

Speaker 3: 50:18

Yeah, yeah. So Boyd and Khatri are still talking and Boyd says so. This girl tells you she's hearing voices and you just Khatri says that he was skeptical too and then shows him Sarah's drawing of the logo. Khatri's been there almost three years, all right. So Fatima one year, khatri almost three years. Donna three years, six months and 17 days.

Speaker 3: 50:50

So let's see, boyd says so, you told someone and someone told Sarah. Katri says he didn't tell anybody and that there was no way she could have known. Something was watching me that day, that same thing that told Sarah Boyd. And you think this thing is trying to help us by killing an old man and a child. Katri, whatever it is, it's the fabric of this place. Okay, whatever connection Sarah has, that makes her valuable in ways we may not even understand yet. So now, if you want to put her in the box, that's fine, I'm not going to stop you. But if you are serious about finding answers, the fact that you're going on this journey at the same time that this connection is revealed, that's just not a coincidence. That's providence. Providence, in case anyone doesn't know, it's not just the city in Rhode Island, but it is something that's meant to be. Boyd asks what he's suggesting. I love that word, providence. Boyd asks what he's suggesting. Cotri says that he and Sarah should go with him. Use this connection to our advantage. Boyd says so.

Speaker 3: 52:03

A priest, a sheriff and a murdering psycho walk into a bar. Cotri agrees and laughs. Boyd takes a drink. So back to the Matthews house. Tabitha has been digging the hole. When Jim comes down, the wires are just going down straight. Jim says that if she goes any deeper they will need a taller ladder. She says that they'll go as deep as they have to. Jim climbs down into the hole. When she stretches her arm in pain oh, he wants to look at it and she says she's fine. He says that fine isn't a word that he'd use to describe any of them at this point. He rubs her shoulder and she needs that. He tells her to take a break and sit with Ethan for a bit and he'll take over. She asks if he's stuck with his antenna, and he is. Jim gets a little close to her and starts kissing her neck. So when they arrive there they're on the verge of of divorce and my guess is that there's not much intimacy between them at all that was a big deal it was a big deal.

Speaker 2: 53:21

They've been there six days and they're starting to knit back together again well, when you have bloodthirsty monsters trying to hunt you at night, you kind of get a little bit closer.

Speaker 3: 53:34

Well, perhaps, but I mean, stress brings people closer, disaster brings people closer, it's just that this just seemed more of a romantic gesture than two people, I don't know it just Well, they're finding their groove back and you know what they're finding their groove.

Speaker 2: 53:56

I mean, I just know as a married person, you married someone for a reason.

Speaker 3: 54:03

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 54:04

And there's the best things and the worst things, and when you're're not, when you don't like somebody that you love, you know how to nitpick them. And when you like somebody that you like, the things that will make them feel better, and it's sweet, and that's what it comes down to, and it's nice to see that they're finding the groove, so to speak.

Speaker 3: 54:29

Yeah. I mean yeah. Yeah, it's just another indication of how this place can change things. So colony house Jasmine is done with her carnage and is cleaning up in the sink. Kevin is lying on the floor dead, but his chest cavity isn't bored out.

Speaker 2: 55:06

What I love about that is how slow she does it. Yeah, just like. Yeah, like it's no big deal. I'm just gonna get this out and that's. That goes back to what kenny said about the chess pieces. Yeah, they've got. They feel like they have the advantage, so they don't have to, they're in no rush that yeah, and they're never in a rush.

Speaker 3: 55:29

It's like they know that they'll get there. Whatever it takes, they're going to get there. Yeah, it's cool. So now we're in Victor's bedroom. Victor is sorting through drawings when there's a knock on the door. It's Julie and she wants to come in. He rather said she didn't. And she says please, and that this is the only place in the house that she can be alone. Well, sort of. He says that she looks sad. She cuts him off, asking if she can just come in. That she's really had a bad night. Julie asks are you going somewhere? It looks like you're packing. Victor says no, it's just hard to explain. She asked why he dug the graves. He says he doesn't want to talk about that. She starts looking through the pile of license plates and ask if they are from all the cars that have come into town. He says that they are and stops her from touching them. She wanders around the room like she's just looking and touching everything. She says on my first day down in the pantry, you said that two cars haven't come into town on the same day and that it was special why You've been here the longest out of anyone.

Speaker 3: 56:40

Victor ties a bundle of his drawings, together with string. Do you know what? This place is? Back in the Lou house, and they're in the kitchen. Jade is looking at the book, flipping pages while Kenny and Mrs Lou prepare dinner. Kenny says seriously, man, I don't know why you keep staring at that thing. Jade says I'm sorry, hold on. And flips pages, pages, pages. Notices that the two pages are stuck together, he grabs a knife and splits them and a Polaroid comes out between them. He looks at the Polaroid with Kenny and Mrs Liu looking over his shoulder. Mrs Liu takes the picture and realizes that the young boy in the picture is Victor.

Speaker 2: 57:24

And they're like what do you mean? That's not Victor, but my question to you and to the listeners is okay, fine, he wanted to keep the picture, for whatever reason? Yeah, but why did he glue it?

Speaker 3: 57:39

who the person that put it in the book?

Speaker 2: 57:42

yeah, so it wouldn't get lost, I think no, I'm just saying, like what is the, what's the significance of any of that?

Speaker 3: 57:50

And that book could have been. What was that guy's name? Paul.

Speaker 2: 57:58

It could have been. What was his name?

Speaker 3: 58:00

Just keep going, I'll get it. It could have been some kind of diary or journal, because when we see that picture he's holding that book against his chest. See that picture, he's holding that book against his chest. And it could have been that he just got there and whoever he was with took that picture to record that moment of getting there. And so people do different things with their personal journals. Some people will draw on them or put things in it like mementos. They put it in the book. But he could have put that book and sealed the glued the pages around it so that he wouldn't lose the picture. That's all I think it was.

Speaker 3: 58:41

I don't think it was a real purpose.

Speaker 2: 58:44

It was Christopher. I don't even know why I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 3: 58:47

Yeah, I just posted about him.

Speaker 2: 58:48

The sad part is I just posted on our facebook, I mean on our instagram, and I I just like drew a blank and I don't even know why. I didn't have to look it up. I'm just like, oh my gosh, christopher, uh, yeah and uh, christopher, like in sopranos, come here, christopher, all right.

Speaker 3: 59:05

So yes, no, no I love that dynamic.

Speaker 2: 59:09

So, yes, no, no. Love that dynamic of the three of them and how Jane is just like a little brat and he fits right in. Oh no, but I mean, when we get to the, what is it the ninth episode? Or 10th episode when he's with Mrs, or 10th episode when he's with Mrs Liu? You really understand his respect for his elders. Yeah, and he reminds me a lot of Sheldon in. Big Bang.

Speaker 2: 59:40

Theory in the sense of he's a pain in the ass. He's too smart for his own good, but there are rules. And when he steps over the line which he knows he's going to for his own good, but there are rules. And when he steps over the line which he knows he's going to step over the line, he is like yes, ma'am, yeah, I just loved that him and kenny are battling over going to dinner like, dude, you better get down there, mom's, to kick our ass. Yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:00:09

So, jade, oh no, now back to the colony house, where things really get nuts. Trudy walks with her pillow wearing the mustard sweater, while others are sitting around. She tells her pillow that it's going to a new home, she's going to give it to Fatima and that she'll take such good care of it. Trudy hears a woman laughing and follows the sound into a bedroom where Jasmine is looking into the mirror laughing. Don't go in.

Speaker 3: 1:00:37

I know. Smiley slams the door closed and the two monsters look at a scared Trudy. There's another man in the room. I mean that was awful, like just that together. Jasmine says hi, trudy, and Trudy asks how they know her name. Jasmine says that they know all their names. The three are circled around Trudy. They start touching her and then close in on her and start biting and Trudy screams. People are sitting on the staircase.

Speaker 2: 1:01:11

Before we go there. I just want to talk about that scene because I think that there's something to be said for the way the monsters view the humans. I don't know if they admire them yes, they think they're food or whatever. They want to kill them for some reason. But, like Jasmine did this with Kevin and they also did it with um Trudy, where it's not sexual, but it's like they're checking, yeah, and it's just kind of I don't understand why they would kill her. She was such a good annoying character.

Speaker 3: 1:02:04

Oh, I'm like, because they would kill her. She was such a good annoying character.

Speaker 2: 1:02:07

Oh, I'm like because they kill and eat people. Yeah, I mean. I don't know what I mean is. I don't know why the writer?

Speaker 3: 1:02:11

I know yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:13

I mean.

Speaker 3: 1:02:13

I know she was a good like layered character.

Speaker 2: 1:02:17

She could have been not a second or a third storyline. He could have been not a second or a third storyline, but she could have like like Katrina, yeah, the girl. I mean she's got some one liners here and there and they've got 50,000 people, backstory people and behind the scenes.

Speaker 3: 1:02:38

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:02:39

It's. I mean, I know they have to kill somebody or else it wouldn't be a good show, but it's like the walking dead, in that sense nobody wants glenn to die, but somebody has to die. Um, it's just. It's just. It really pisses me off I know it's, it's, it keeps the real fact is she was in harry potter on broadway, so I had to go. I just love that fact so if she's looking, it's just like I don't know.

Speaker 2: 1:03:13

I don't know, not that she would be listening, but um, that said, uh, that was some gruesomeness.

Speaker 3: 1:03:20

And then the scene of all scenes is now where Dale and Well, he's complaining to Stacy that he's been here longer than Ellis and that he deserves a little respect. He could really help this place if they just what the blood is dripping on him from above, that they just what the blood is dripping on him from above. They look up and they see Smiley smiling over the banister at them, which you go from just having a good time to being terrified. Screaming starts and someone yells that they're in the house. Ellis wakes up when he hears the yelling. People are running and yelling as the monsters come into the house after them. Fatima is asking if anyone has seen ellis and she starts to help the stairs when she sees two female monsters coming down the stairs toward her. Um, I love that one in that black girl.

Speaker 2: 1:04:20

Right, I love that one it was Jasmine and that black girl right.

Speaker 3: 1:04:22

I love that outfit she was wearing. I have it. Oh, you do.

Speaker 2: 1:04:27

Yeah, it brings out my eyes.

Speaker 3: 1:04:29

Yeah. She turns and runs down. She heads to the front door when she realizes that there are more on the other side of the door, in the vestibule. People run through the kitchen and out the door. In Victor's room they can hear the yelling and Julie asks what's going on. Victor says that it's starting. She wants to know what is starting and he says that they have to go. She wants to know where and keeps asking Victor asking, while Victor doesn't answer but grabs a really thick rope that he ties to a beam in front of his window. He throws the bottom out of the window while she's freaking out. He tells her to go first and that he'll follow her down. He puts the pack of tied pictures on her shoulder and for her to take. She goes out of the window and starts climbing down while people are running around outside.

Speaker 3: 1:05:24

Donna is outside the door telling people to find their buddy and to get into the van. Fatima comes around the corner. Donna asks where Ellis and Julie are and Fatima says she doesn't know. Donna starts to go back into the house. Fatima stops her and Donna says that she's not running. Fatima tells her that she has to get those people to town to save as many as she can and to follow protocol. Donna runs to the van while she and the others get in. Julie makes it to the ground, looks up and then looks around the corner of the house to see people running. She turns back to tell Victor to hurry up. Victor gets to the ground. Julie says that they need to get to town.

Speaker 3: 1:06:06

He looks and sees the boy in white. The boy in white turns and walks into the woods. Victor says they have to go to the trees. Julie asks if he's crazy. Those things live in there, please. They'll kill us. Victor tells her to trust him. If you want to see your family again, we have to go to the trees. She agrees.

Speaker 3: 1:06:31

Smiley is touching the plants as he walks along the second floor hallway near the staircase, ellis creeps along. He sees a door jar with a pool of blood that has come under the door. He opens the door and sees the mustard sweater and the dark hair. He thinks that it's Fatima and then finds that it's Trudy. Smiley comes up behind him. Ellis is trapped. He throws a footstool through the window and climbs out on the roof. He runs along the roof, then jumps down to the ground, landing flat. Fatima comes around the corner of the porch and sees him. He hasn't seen Julie.

Speaker 3: 1:07:14

Monsters come around the corner of the porch. Fatima struggles to get Ellis up. He tells her to go. She says she's not going anywhere without him and that they can do this. She gets up the stairs and into the house while the first two monsters follow and two follow from the porch. She gets Ellis inside and has an idea. She closes the front door and then closes the empty door in the face of more monsters approaching from inside. She touches the talisman that hangs at the front door sinks. A woman monster bangs on the door telling them not to be like that because they're having so much fun. They knock, fatima sobs, ellis just looks. They rattle the doorknobs. Ellis and Fatima realize that they can't get in and that they're safe. Ellis asks how she knew it would work. She says she didn't and mentions Boyd in the RV. Ellis apologizes. She says that she loves him and he tells her that he loves her and they hold hands.

Speaker 3: 1:08:16

Victor takes Julie through the woods to the faraway tree and tells her to get inside. Screaming can be heard. She says no. He tells her that she'll be safe. He tells her that she has to find her brother, warn him, tell him that it's starting. She says she doesn't know what he's talking about. Victor says that he will. He tells her to go and she says no, wait, wait. He says I'll be right behind you, but his voice fades so back in the root cellar. This is where Julie lands.

Speaker 3: 1:08:52

Back in the sheriff's office, boyd and Katri are sitting and talking. Boyd says if we do this and I mean if and she even blinks the wrong way. Katri says you do what you need to do, but we're going out there and we're finding answers. We're going to find answers. We're going to find a way, boyd. This is why I was told to get back in the car, so that you and I can go out there and find a way to bring these people home. Boyd says you're a fucking madman. You know that right. Cautry says that the Bible's full of them. A car horn sounds. They get up and go to the door. Donna's van pulls up. Boyd runs out asking what happened. Donna gets out of the van while Cautry opens the door to let everyone else out. Boyd asks where Ellison is and Donna says that she doesn't know. Katri tells everyone to get inside. Boyd and Katri hustle. Everyone in.

Speaker 3: 1:09:49

Monsters are coming down the street toward them. The last one gets out and Katri brings up the rear. He looks down the street at the approaching monsters and calls as NS1 calls you guys, okay, over there Behind him a woman says father. He turns and she slashes him across the face. She's half monster, half changed monster. Boyd grabs Khatri and shoots at the monster as he drags Khatri inside. Donna is waiting to help close the door. Khatri's neck is slashed. It dislodges his white collar from his shirt. Katri says it doesn't end like this, my path. Donna brings towels and they put it on his neck. Boyd begs him to stay with him. Katri asks for them to pray with him. Katri starts the Our Father. Khatri dies before the prayer is over. So my thought that Khatri was meant to be there to push Boyd to his next point.

Speaker 2: 1:10:54

Maybe. Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 3: 1:10:55

I mean, you know, Like when the mousetrap came.

Speaker 2: 1:10:59

Right, no, that makes perfect sense and you know that was a conversation that needed to be hot, be had I. I think that it's just so ironic, or I don't know what the right word is, that he pushed him to kill frank but he kept sarah. I mean, I understand. I'm not here to say I don't understand why.

Speaker 3: 1:11:22

I mean that's the whole reason why. But like Frank caused two deaths. I mean not that Sarah didn't, but Frank caused two deaths, didn't have anything to offer for it.

Speaker 2: 1:11:36

Well, no, I don't try to kill somebody versus Frank causing a death.

Speaker 3: 1:11:40

Yeah Well. I mean there's a big difference. Somebody versus frank causing a death yeah, he well, I mean she deserves. You could say he killed his wife and child because he wasn't at home taking care of them.

Speaker 2: 1:11:52

He didn't nail the windows closed but she may. That may be true, which it is, but she literally tried to kill people. Yeah, I mean, she's a attempted murderer as opposed to a drunken jerk. Um, I mean so, but at the same time I go back to this statement all the time it's like they have selective memory when it comes to and this is like a problem that I have with the show Like one minute everything is mysterious.

Speaker 2: 1:12:32

They got monsters coming at night, but they can't believe that somebody is hearing voices from something else, I think because they've seen enough of the monsters. No, but you understand, I know.

Speaker 3: 1:12:49

They're not extending that disbelief, they're not suspending the disbelief, but all of a sudden, if Sarah just said she was hearing voices, they would think that she was going crazy. But instead she's hearing voices with some legitimacy because she tells Katri about the boy in the spaceship that's on the candy bar. I had a thought about that boy in the and I had a thought about that boy in the. I was responding to someone on a on one of the posts, one of the pages, and I don't know if I put it there or not. But of course now, after thinking I would never forget it, I have forgotten it. So that's it. So Khatri, well, he's disappointed because I think he thought his path was to write book 74. And he didn't get to do that. I mean, it is disappointing.

Speaker 2: 1:13:57

His purpose may have just been to get them to a certain point. But you know what, and this is the thing, is it destiny or is it fate, or is it pre-written, or is it pretty well, I mean, we have been battling that throughout our lifetime as civilized thinking humans in our life is there a reason for this?

Speaker 3: 1:14:27

why am I here?

Speaker 2: 1:14:28

is it free will that I'm on this podcast, or is it already pre-done? You know?

Speaker 2: 1:14:35

is the book written yeah, and again, this is something that I love exploring, because the thing about this show is it's not just about the monsters, just like the Walking Dead, it's about being a lot bigger. In the Last Walking Dead, ones who Lived the Walking Dead are the, as we found out, aren't the zombies, but they're the people. We're the walking dead, so you could place that, you can put that in anything. So the fact that Khatri died is awful. It was a shocker even to him as an actor, and I think that what's really amazing is the way they brought him back, and it sounds like from some of the Instagram posts and Facebook posts, he's coming back not semi-regular to Boyd, I think.

Speaker 3: 1:15:33

Yeah, I really like that a lot. I like that.

Speaker 2: 1:15:41

They got the best of both worlds. They killed him, which was great, which sucked, I mean, but then they still got him in his thoughts yeah and I.

Speaker 3: 1:15:52

It's an interesting dynamic. You would think all right, well, maybe after boyd has solved that puzzle, there's no need for cotri to come back. But yet there is. There's no need for Khatri to come back.

Speaker 2: 1:16:06

But yet there is there's a need for Khatri. I think there's a need for Khatri because of his conscience.

Speaker 3: 1:16:10

Yeah, so yeah, I'm happy to see him back as well. Like I don't know, I hate saying goodbye to characters. I really do. Well, some of them I could do without.

Speaker 2: 1:16:24

No, our biggest problem problem is, since we've done what we've done, getting to know them, the actors, on a personal level, meaning interviewing them yeah, that's me, my personal, that's not the right word but on a level where we know the actor. We've come to like the actor as much as the character. And when we were talking about well, we talked about this a little bit before in one of the other episodes that we're going to be probably doing a tribute poster, and the problem is you can't have everybody on there. You just can't.

Speaker 3: 1:16:56

We did pretty good getting everybody on what I think we did pretty good.

Speaker 2: 1:17:01

I think we did pretty good, but I'm just saying there's just certain characters that just didn't make it on, just who didn't make it on, you don't know. Just I'm telling you. Okay, my point being is, my point being is everybody is not you got to make cuts sometimes, and that's what the writers have to do, and that's why they get paid the big bucks and we don't um, but that's why we're fans and we can um and we can cheer on whoever so, but yeah, no, uh, I thought that was, it's the best episode. I think it was really a culmination of everything that from is about, and it really set the table for not only the rest of the season but what's going to happen in season two. I mean, there's some with the bus and everything else, but you know they're still reeling over it in season two yeah and the fact that the next day, in a sense, I'm just saying.

Speaker 2: 1:18:04

But the fact that kevin's an idiot is just yeah, well, kevin paid for it in the end so he should.

Speaker 2: 1:18:16

So, um, that said, our next episode we're going to be doing Broken Windows, open Doors, which is Season 1, episode 8, because I don't know how to speak and we had a couple surprises. Hopefully, in the meantime and, like we said, hopefully We'll have a couple of announcements about the tribute poster, a little bit more than what we have right now, which it's. It's in the final stages and we'll be. It's amazing, and we're trying to make it at a price point that everybody can get one. The biggest problem is going to be shipping, because we might have some people from North that might want to get them, since most of the cast and crew and everything else are up there and a ton of fans. So we're just trying to work that all out, but it's in the process of being produced and we're just really excited about it and we can't wait to share it with you guys. So, if you are looking for more content, we're going to start doing a little bit more content.

Speaker 2: 1:19:33

But, that said, if you have any other need for podcasts, we got a couple that are coming up in terms of Run For your Lives is doing they're always doing a scary movie. I just dropped another. We dropped an interview with a writer, andy Griffiths, who is the author of 13 Story Treehouse, and he was nice enough. We went to one of his book signings and he was nice enough. We went to one of his book signings and he was nice enough to give us a an interview. And Lucy was freaking out because she's like what am I going to say? And I know podcast is doing fallout.

Speaker 3: 1:20:19

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:20:20

Have you watched that at all?

Speaker 3: 1:20:22

Yeah, I don't know what episode I'm on three or four, I'm not sure, but man I haven't watched it yet.

Speaker 2: 1:20:27

I haven't watched it, yet good, it's good um but um, and it's revisionist history and it's pretty like it's dark well, considering that we're coming from a pretty dark place here, we're always looking for something a little bit dark, but yeah, so what else you got going on, kiddo?

Speaker 3: 1:20:56

I am putting the finishing touches on my book. I probably could have finished it this weekend if I touched it, but I didn't. I don't know, I didn't have much time, so that's it. I'm just working on a new show that is interesting, and that's it. Back to work All right Well.

Speaker 2: 1:21:22

I guess if it's back to work for you, it's back to work for me. My name is alex and I'm lizzie, and we will see you next week or whenever we drop this one bye. Get you home, let's go, come on.

Speaker 1: 1:21:39

Get in your house, let's go, come on come on, get in your house, let's go, come on.