Episode #140: The Opposite Of Emotional Intelligence, Relationship With Self & Being Held Hostage By Habits, With Tricia Parido, Recovery Lifestyle Enthusiast + International Master Addictions Specialist

INTRODUCTION:

Tricia Parido is a Recovery Lifestyle Enthusiast, Speaker, and Writer. She is a Nationally Certified Life Coach, an International Master Addictions Specialist, and a Professional Life Interventionist with a Psych Degree in Process Behavioral and Chemical Addiction who loves to help change lives! As a Master Life Interventionist, Tricia is ever committed to serving her clients worldwide to find the emotional intelligence they need to conquer their life challenges. As an active business owner of a thriving coaching practice, Turning Leaves® Recovery, Life, and Wellness Coaching, with courses seated in evidence-based practices, she not only teaches her clients how to live the life they desire, how to evolve, and “live free”, but she also teaches those that aspire to åbecome professional coaches how to do so, passionately, and professionally.

INCLUDED IN THIS EPISODE (But not limited to):

·      What Is The Opposite Of Emotional Intelligence?

·      Body Dysmorphia 

·      Sexual Assault

·      Eating Disorders

·      Relationship With Self

·      Technology And How It Harms Us

·      Held Hostage By Habits

·      A Message To Males

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Transcript

Episode #140: The Opposite Of Emotional Intelligence, Relationship With Self & Being Held Hostage By Habits, With Tricia Parido, Recovery Lifestyle Enthusiast + International Master Addictions Specialist

Tricia Parido

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De'Vannon Seráphino: Tricia Parado is a recovery lifestyle enthusiast, speaker, and writer. She's a nationally certified life coach, An international master addiction specialist and a professional life interventionist with a psych degree in process behavioral in chemical addiction who loves to help change lives. As a master life interventionist, Trish has ever committed to serving her clients worldwide To find the emotional intelligence they need to conquer their life challenges, hear what Trisha has to say. 

Tricia Parido: And and we have to know how to get into that intuitive mind state instead of running hot over here in our emotional mind or, you know, getting super rigid in our logic rational space. Right? We need to get into that wise mind where everything gets to come together, I've experienced More sexual assaults than I care to admit. Doesn't matter. [00:01:00] 5. We'll go with that. Right?

Tricia Parido: And and and so I've learned to Pull out what those lessons are. Number 1 lesson for me. Didn't have anything to do with me. I was just a vehicle for somebody else's bad act. It's not my bad experience to carry around.

Tricia Parido: I had no part in it. Right? I was just the vehicle. If it hadn't have been me, it would have been somebody else. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Put your seat belts on and dive in for this wild ride, y'all.

De'Vannon Seráphino: hello, my beautiful people out there, and welcome back to the Sex, Drugs, and Jesus Podcast. I'm your host, Devon. I have with me a lovely lady by the name of Tricia Paradis today, and we're gonna be Some of you hurting souls out there, some of you have been broken, dismissed, discarded, wounded in ways that you don't yet know how you're gonna get fixed. We're gonna do what we can to spit some knowledge into your life, Just put [00:02:00] some peace and some kindness into your soul.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Maybe this will be the first time you've ever heard such things. I encourage you to open your mind and listen to what the spirit is saying through us and, and what we have to say to you in so much of love. We bring it to you in love and in humility. We don't know everything, but we do know that transparency changes things, and it helps people. And we are going to tell it Oh, girl.

De'Vannon Seráphino: How are you doing today? I can Now 

Tricia Parido: I'm getting energized. I'm getting energized. Today was 1 of my least favorite days or it Started out as 1 of my least favorite days, but man, have I mastered turning that around in in short periods of time. So It's all good, and I'm just loving being here with you and your beautiful 

De'Vannon Seráphino: energy.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Thank you. I appreciate it. Same back to you, my my beautiful woman in the light. So before before I read your introduction, go ahead. Let me [00:03:00] just latch on to what you just said right now.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So You said you were able to turn that around. Talk to us about what you did and how you were able to do it. 

Tricia Parido: Well, you know, there's and And then I know everybody can relate to this. Right? Like, you wake up in the morning, and you just do not feel connected with any piece of your surroundings.

Tricia Parido: Like, I think my entire first hour and a half, like, there was just no connection with anything. I I I I wasn't I wasn't able to just even latch on to any I didn't even you know? Gosh. For goodness sake. I didn't even send my my husband a good morning message today, which totally abnormal for me.

Tricia Parido: And and and I just and I sat down to to see everything that was on my calendar for today, and it was just like I couldn't connect with any of it. My writing that I usually do in the morning just wasn't there. There was just no words. There was no I just didn't feel connected with my soul. So, you know, the first thing that I always do [00:04:00] is is, you know, I sit in that, And and I kinda look at you know, I do some reflection to to see, you know, what what might be lending to that.

Tricia Parido: And and then, also, I look forward and and I make things smaller, so that, you know, it's just, you know, 1 thing at a time, 1 thing in the moment. And then, of course, you know, I do my spiritual practice every morning. So, you know, once that is done, you know, it's just really a beautiful space. So I was able to identify, You know, yesterday, I I I didn't drink my my shake that keeps giving me mental clarity. Like, I just skipped it yesterday.

Tricia Parido: Anyway, so that that piece, so the nutrition piece was lacking yesterday. And then I sat down and I wrote myself a list of all of the things that I had accomplished because I was feeling kinda like that why isn't [00:05:00] this Saturday feeling. Right? Like, well, I'm I'm tired. And so I just kind of gave myself a lot of acknowledgments for all of the big, beautiful things that I was able to get completed this week, because I think a lot of times we just get into autopilot, and we do do do, but we don't, you know, stop to to, like, you know, give ourselves a pat on the back to acknowledge it.

Tricia Parido: And so we are only focused on what's ahead, so we just never feel done or complete or completed or successful or anyway, I could ramble on forever. So I spent some some beautiful, wonderful time with myself, did my spiritual you know, regimen that I do in the morning and and then, you know, just kinda regrouped and and, you know sat You're in a in a state of meditation, though it was time to chat with you. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: So what that is is conscious living y'all. You know, it's like like, she she woke up with a certain emotion or a certain way, and she did not just accept that as it [00:06:00] like, it has to be the standard for the day. Why do you think what you think y'all is how I always encourage people to to challenge themselves.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Why do you feel what you feel? You don't have to accept sadness. You don't have to accept all these wonky spirits, energies, emotions, whatever you wanna call them that wanna come and possess you and oppress you and make you have, like, a fucked up day life existence. You can be like a do you do what do you what she just said and be like, not today, Satan. You Yeah.

Tricia Parido: 100 percent. Right? Like, we could go through the day and continue to attach that to everything that comes next. We can attach it to it. We can carry it around in this bag and whatever, all of our yesterdays, you know, whatever it is.

Tricia Parido: Right? And we can attach it to all the things that come next, Or we can leave it in the space that it arrived in. You know, bless it. Thank it for thank it for its message, and leave it there and move 

De'Vannon Seráphino: on. And with that, let's go [00:07:00] right on ahead and break out This impressive, I would just say, resume of hers y'all.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Trisha is a recovery lifestyle enthusiast speaker and writer. She's a nationally certified life coach. I'm gonna pause there. There's a lot of coaches running around here, and I'm not saying, You know, some are great, some are terrible, whatever the fuck, but they're not all certified. That's it.

De'Vannon Seráphino: That's it. That's that stands out. Because everybody on YouTube and on TikTok and on social media is a coach, you know, but they not everybody's bothered to get a certification in anything. Continuing, an international master addiction specialist. That's some shit I've never heard of.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And a perfect but I love it. I love All of it and a professional life interventionist with a psychic degree in process behavioral and chemical or that I like to say chemical addiction to love to help change lives. As a master life interventionist, Trish is ever committed to serving her clients worldwide to [00:08:00] find the emotional Intelligence, they need to conquer their life challenges. Emotions and intelligence. Yeah.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yeah. In intelligent emotions is important to have. I love that. As an active business owner of a thriving coaching practice, Turning Lee's Recovery Life and Wellness Coaching, that's the name of the business. With courses seeding and evidence based practices, she not only teaches her clients how to live the life they desire, how to evolve.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Gautam said it again. How to evolve and live free, But she also teaches those that aspire to become professional coaches how to do so passionately and professionally. Talk to me about emotional intelligence, and what what is the reverse of that? 

Tricia Parido: Okay. So, oh, you just entered my world.

Tricia Parido: Right? So, you know, the Emotional intelligence is something [00:09:00] that people, especially, you know, all those folks out there, you know, calling themselves coaches without getting the credentials. And thank you so much for acknowledging that. I am so passionate about the professionalism of the industry. I have 15 credentials in the coaching modality Because if I'm going to coach somebody in a specific area of their life, I better be trained.

Tricia Parido: Right? I better know the right way to do it. Right? Like, this is people's life. Anyway, I digress.

Tricia Parido: Emotional intelligence is something that a lot of people think that is an innate talent, and it's not. Just because, you know, you're you're you know, you like your life and it feels good to you doesn't mean that you have emotional intelligence. So if we think about this and and we can go back to my story this morning. I had options. That's right.

Tricia Parido: And options to sit and and start my day right however long it took me to get into the right space, the right, you know, the right Into, you know, [00:10:00] the the intuitive space, the the the space filled with the right integrity, morals, ethics, whatever it was I needed to lead with today. Right to show up right based on my assessment. I, you know, had that choice, which is what I did, or I could have, you know, white knuckled it, said, oh, I'm just having a bad day. I could have attached it to everything else. So what this looks like is is, you know, you get up.

Tricia Parido: Nothing feels right. You're irritated, agitated, annoyed, frustrated, bothered. You can't pinpoint it. The kids aren't getting ready for school. Right?

Tricia Parido: You're yelling at them. The the other moms are, you know, blocking the drop off, And and and then somebody cuts you off and all of these things are attaching. You get to the office. You're talking about it at the coffee station and Negative negative Nancy. This, that, and the other thing.

Tricia Parido: All of that energy gets attached to every communication you have with every person, And and everything's just wrong. What's wrong with the universe [00:11:00] today? Why is everybody so crazy? Why is you know? And it just attaches.

Tricia Parido: And and, you know, we could go into a super deep clinical conversation about it, but but the issue is, you know, we we we tend to drag all of our moments that have already come and gone along with us throughout the day, make this big, humongous it's like, you know, when you're making a snowman. Right? Like, you make a little tiny ball, and then you roll it around the grassy field, and it it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. Right? Like, this is overwhelm.

Tricia Parido: Overwhelm gets created just like that giant snowman's, you know, snowball and or, you know, the avalanche that comes down, and it's really noisy. And then there's a big whiteout where your bearing just completely blanks out afterwards. And and then so by the time you get to the end of the night, You're, like, telling your husband no matter how he breathes or whatever, like, you're you're you're annoyed with him, and and, you know, you're telling him all about all of the crazy dumb things that everybody did or said to you, and and [00:12:00] there's no emotional intelligence going on there. Because really all we have to do is to say, Right? Like, right here, right now, in this moment, I feel and know how to effectively describe our emotions.

Tricia Parido: We don't know how to use the right adjective. Right? Like, we just walk around saying we're fine. We are the most ambiguous being on the planet. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, fine is you know, could be anything from an overly bleached strand of hair that would break if, you know, if you touched it, Or it could be, like, the most amazing fine stone from the center of the earth. Right? Like, fine is, You know, broad. So, you know, we tend to broad brush our life. We tend to, you know, make things bigger than they need to be, and we make these big lumps.

Tricia Parido: So if we can if we can identify what we're feeling in the moment, right, name it accordingly, And then ask ourselves what's driving it in this time and space. Like, right [00:13:00] here, right now, in this moment, what's driving it? And how much of it is for me? How much is about me? How much is about or for something outside of me?

Tricia Parido: The locus of control theory is so much bigger than most people even know, and you may not know what that is. But it's In addiction, we rely on, right, our our substance of choice, whether that's food, alcohol, cigarettes, coffee, Whatever. People pleasing codependency. We're relying on something, someone, a person, place, name. Right?

Tricia Parido: We're relying on it to bring us Peace, joy, comfort, relate, value, validity, and worthiness. So if we wanna be in this space of emotional intelligence, we have to know how to get connected with ourself in a split second. Right? Like, right now. Then we we we have to know how to face the distress.

Tricia Parido: Right? So how to come up with [00:14:00] responses instead of reactions. And and we have to know how to get into that intuitive mind state instead of running hot over here in our emotional mind or, you know, getting super rigid in our logic rational space. Right? We need to get into that wise mind where everything gets to come together, And we and we just know intuitively what's right in that space.

Tricia Parido: And if that means You gotta sit down, kick your feet up for 3 hours until you can regroup, then that's what you do. But, You know, emotional intelligence, you know, comes with a lot of things that we need to know. We have to we have to have distress times, which means we have to, You know, know how to we need effective self soothing tactics. We need to know how to cognitively shift, restructure, reframe whatever it is that's going on instead of just [00:15:00] saying, I'm not gonna let that bother me. Shove it down.

Tricia Parido: Push it aside. Sweep it under the rug. Whatever. Like, that's not effective. Numbing out is not effective.

Tricia Parido: Taking a look at it, breaking it down, and and and learning, right, what I need to do to reduce my vulnerability in this time and space effectively, is the right approach. So when you when you want emotional intelligence, it means that, you know, you can Do do what works and be effective. It no matter what's going on inside your your head, your heart, etcetera. I don't know. It's it's a big process.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Okay. I'm here for the process. Give me an example of a client that you worked with that really stood out that you had exceptional results with there before what you did with them and thereafter? Oh, 

Tricia Parido: all of them. I wanna talk about clients that [00:16:00] came to me, heavy alcohol use or heavy alcohol dependence, body dysmorphic disorder, so BDD from here on out, and dual eating disorders.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, highly restrictive yet binge eating. Right? And and her her whole life right? Like, everything and everybody in her life based on her her ability to receive their words.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, how she heard, how she saw, how she perceived other people, their messages, their motives, their their affection, etcetera, was all seated in a in in past trauma, which means that across her [00:17:00] life, as we as we went on this journey, we were able to, you know, like you have to really get down to, like, why and where did it come from. Right? So there were a ton of messages in there embedded in her brain from past traumas. Right?

Tricia Parido: Parental parental words, Parental assessments of of things. Right? Like, hearing a parent's judgment or view of something outside there in the world that visually, she saw a certain way and then connected it to herself, and then it became, like, something she adopted. Right? So the, like, the definition of fat, and and the definition of how you get fat and, you know, was where it started.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, dad's assessment of what a fat woman was When she was a child, she was like, oh, but that doesn't seem fat to me. Right? [00:18:00] Like, so I have to, you know, I have to take this image of this woman and make it my definition of fat. And then as she grew and matured and and got to what she assessed as close to that visual that she embedded in her brain as a child, she then became fat.

Tricia Parido: And then in all of that you know, in her in her own mind. And and so that was adoption number 1. Relation relationship assault, sexual assault was a piece, and and the disregard and the negative words, again, about body image, right, started embedding and and Kept bringing dad's message, right, dad's views, dad's opinions with her along the way, and then, you know, discovered numbing out with alcohol and food and eating your emotions and and whatnot. [00:19:00] So when we started incorporating the 31 lessons that build and and create emotional intelligence in my signature service that has been producing huge results for 10 years. In in that work, we were able to get her into a space of loving herself, confidence, no longer in an active alcohol use disorder and and in a totally different relationship with food.

Tricia Parido: Right? That doesn't mean that that was the end of our journey. That was in a space where we got her out of highly constructive behavior and into a space where she could actually grow from the spot that she was in going forward. From there, we went into, you know, loving her physical body at higher levels, and that, you know, was, you know, clearing some, you know, other deeper messages that she had created, cognitively and allowing her to be in a forward moving momentum, releasing all of them. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, looking at the Anything that could serve her, any lessons [00:20:00] that would serve her going forward, she would put on her metaphoric shelf, but the rest of it went in the trash can because key is to get rid of the luggage. Right? The luggage is what holds you back. It's what keeps you ruminating, wallowing, and languishing in things that have already come and gone or that you have already survived. Right.

Tricia Parido: I like to say, any day I wake up without a chalk line around my body is a great day. Anything that happened beforehand doesn't matter. When somebody has a slip or but y'all might call a relapse you know, I I'm always there to greet them with Doesn't matter what happened yesterday. What matters is what you choose to do today going forward. Even if they call me right after they take their first drink or I just had a drink.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, Great. Okay. Whatever. Like, dump the rest and move forward.

Tricia Parido: It doesn't matter. What matters is what you do in this moment going forward Because we punish ourselves and we judge ourselves far too much in in the past. Our our evidence of, you know, when we have anxiety and [00:21:00] fear, generally comes from past experience. When if when we effectively know how to pull out the lesson that will serve us right? I have a creeped dart.

Tricia Parido: I've experienced More sexual assaults than I care to admit. Doesn't matter. 5. We'll go with that. Right?

Tricia Parido: And and and so I've learned to Pull out what those lessons are. Number 1 lesson for me. Didn't have anything to do with me. I was just a vehicle for somebody else's bad act. It's not my bad experience to carry around.

Tricia Parido: I am I am not I was I had no part in it. Right? I was just the vehicle. If it hadn't have been me, it would have been somebody else. Sure.

Tricia Parido: I had to do a lot of healing. But today, like, I can talk about it, and it doesn't affect me in a negative way because I don't I've completely removed All of the fear, the [00:22:00] anxiety, the shame, the guilt, the, you know, I don't know, looking for a reason to blame myself, whatever. So, anyway, with that client, you know, we went through a series of those kinds of things. Right? Like, really getting in there, where did it come from, where does it belong, so that we We could be in the present moment and not assess every single movement going forward based on or comparing to or pulling from some past thing that didn't serve me to begin with.

De'Vannon Seráphino: That's pretty fucking fantastic. So Clap clap clappity clap clap clap. Like, I don't 

Tricia Parido: know. Like, I could go down a rabbit hole and then just, you know, disappear 

Tricia Parido 1 copy: in 

De'Vannon Seráphino: it. So so, basically, since you've experienced deliverance, very strong deliverances from very intense traumas, And, y'all, she just touched on some of them.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know, in her history, she has her own chemical substance abuse, you know, eating disorders and trauma and her own body dysmorphic. So she has [00:23:00] abandonment issues and things that I was, you know, reading about. There has been kinda special about somebody who's been through some shit that, enables you gives you the power to to go and and to go and help somebody else. You know, the difference is somebody who's never been addicted to drugs, going to school to learn how to be a counselor versus somebody who has been addicted to drugs. You know?

De'Vannon Seráphino: There's a different language that's spoken out there on them streets y'all. And and to say that's not to say that somebody who has not been addicted to drugs. Can't help. There is a certain special touch that you have when you have been through something, and that's just the way it is. You meant so on this body dysmorphia thing, I'd like you to speak to Speak speak specifically to men and those who identify as male because in my clothing line, for instance, for for [00:24:00] down under apparel, I deal with a lot of models.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I used to be a model, so so I'm I'm accustomed to being around very what a lot of people might call physically attractive men. So these men are tall, Very muscular. 6 packs, 8 packs, 9 packs. You know, bubble buds. You know, very physically attractive men.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Pretty much all of them don't think they look good enough when they show up to the set, you know, in in things like that. That's not to say that they're like, And this is just what they reveal to me. You know, it's like they they it's just little things they say, and they're so critical, you know, of their body. They're constantly nitpicking at it, you know, and things like that. Is there anything that you could say to males?

De'Vannon Seráphino: I mean, those who identify with the masculine energy out there to just help them to accept themselves. 

Tricia Parido: Yeah. And I love that you bring this into the space because, you know, 1 of 1 in 10 people that struggle with eating disorder [00:25:00] regardless of which 1, right, are men. And and and and and it's something that isn't, you know, really talked about or, you know, brought brought around. Right?

Tricia Parido: It's a there's a high prevalence, of of eating disorders and body image and and dysmorphia in in the male population. And and The thing is is they just they just don't talk about it the same way as women do. Right? But what I'm hearing you say is that, you know what? Amongst men, we do.

Tricia Parido: Yeah. We're just not out there talking about it. You know, maybe. But, you know, when we have A a dysmorphic disorder. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, that fixation on 1 part of our body. Right? Whether it's our our abs, our arms, our legs, multiple areas when when they're just never good enough and and we're always trying to enhance, etcetera. You know, 1, we have to, you know, we have to take a look at our relationship in the mirror but [00:26:00] and and change that. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, I I I have a very strange relationship with the mirror in in in that. I don't really spend a lot of time using it. You know? So, you know, you have to know why you have to know why you are so hyperfixated on whatever your thing is. Right?

Tricia Parido: If you're, you know, if you have to be in the gym 3 hours a day, 6 days a week, and you're still not feeling successful enough. Like, we gotta have a conversation about that. Right? We gotta have a conversation about how to heal that relationship with the physical body and and why. Right?

Tricia Parido: It doesn't look the way that you want it to look. And it's really hard to speak in generalities because I'm gonna tell you something eating disorders and body image issues are very unique and special to each individual being. And although there are as diagnostic criteria around how to give them a label. [00:27:00] It doesn't matter. Like, we're it's all very unique.

Tricia Parido: And where does it stem from? Like, my client. Right? Like, and and all of the messages, you know, from external sources. Mine wasn't ever that.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, mine came from a completely different place. Perfectionism. Right? Perfectionism was a big, big thing for me in my life.

Tricia Parido: And and so men, same thing. Wrestlers. Right? We gotta drop weight. We gotta stay thin.

Tricia Parido: We gotta, you know, whatever. Right? Same for, you know, whatever football position. You either gotta bulk up or you gotta lean down. And and so there's, You know, a lot of that.

Tricia Parido: And so we get into this cycle in early ages, and and so now we've got adolescents hyper focused on their body size. Right? Men. So then you've got this freshman Joining the high school football team. Not really sure even what, you know, like, position they're gonna play, [00:28:00] and they're totally in their adolescent body, like string bean or whatever they are, and they're looking at these seniors who are men.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, you got, you know, 14 year old and you got 17, 18 year old, like, men getting ready to go off to college, and they're comparing themselves and they're vying for a place on the team, and and it Messes with your head. But, also, you know, you have Self esteem. Right? So if you if you feel like you're soft or squishy in an area And and and you've had a problem with it and and you're hyper focused on it.

Tricia Parido: Right? It's it's about that hyper focus, and it's about knowing what's gonna be effective, and and looking at that. And it it is not maintainable to be in a gym 3 hours a day, 6 days a week. That's not lifelong manageable and maintainable, unless you work there. But, you know, we we just really have to look at why.[00:29:00]

Tricia Parido: Why do you not see it as perfection? If you've got a 6 pack, you don't need a 9 pack. Like, what what is that what does that need to have? Where did that visual of a perfect stomach come from? Where did it come from, and why is it there?

Tricia Parido: Why is that embedded and imprinted in your brain? And I, you know, I do take a different approach, right, because coaching is different. And and, you know, 1 of the things that I teaches mental health international mental health coaching credentials. So we bring in a lot of different mental health issues, eating disorders being 1 of the big ones, and knowing how to coach somebody that is living in that and also knowing how to refer somebody to the higher levels of care when they need that. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, somebody who's got 17 percent body mass, like, needs to go to a higher level of care to gain some weight before they can actually do any true, You know? Meaning because we we have to have we have to have a certain body [00:30:00] mass. Right? So, you know, it's it's about the esteem, really. If you if you boil it down, let me make it, like, super simple.

Tricia Parido: We gotta we gotta do some work on your internal self esteem, that relationship with self, and we gotta remove all the noise from all of the external sources. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: No worries from external sources. That that's gonna bring me over into this area I wanna ask you about social media and cell phones and apps. But before we do that, y'all, I just wanna point out, nutrition, I agree on this. Traditional therapy and addiction models don't necessarily work for everybody.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So this means I'm throwing a little bit of shade. It say, like, the 12 step programs. They're not all bad, but I don't I think that they I think they're cute if you don't have anything else, And then they told for you. The thing that pissed me off with the 12 step program, especially like crystal meth anonymous, narcotics anonymous, because at [00:31:00] the end of the meetings, they ask if somebody has a burning desire. The burning desire is if you feel like you're pretty much in imminent danger of harming yourself or someone else.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And then when somebody would say something, they did was, hey. I have this burning desire. I'm afraid I'm about to go x y z. 1 guy was, like, in a field somewhere thinking about going to get the drugs. He hid under a bush or something.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And all of them, they're just like, okay. Thank you. Keep coming back. And I told my sponsor at the time, I'm like, what the fuck is the point of y'all sitting here and asking somebody if they have a burning desire, which is different than just sharing about what's been happening to you. You're asking somebody if they're in imminent danger to just to let them get off the phone or out of the Zoom meeting with no advice.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know? And that's the sort of stuff that would happen in some of those 12 step meetings. And so Good good on you if those work for you. But there is many, many, many there there are many, many, many different ways to treat addiction and behavioral [00:32:00] issues that you might be having. It's not just that.

De'Vannon Seráphino: So I'm encouraging y'all. Don't just stop at AA Alcoholics Anonymous or this anonymous or that anonymous. Those are super spiritual programs. They're and they're nonspiritual programs like what Trish is offering here. We've talked about spirit in god and stuff like that, or at least I have, but you don't have to be any of that in order to go somewhere and get a healing.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You know, wherever you're at, you know, you are good at just where you're at. So Trish and I agree on this. We don't do, like, sobriety dates. We're not like, I've been sober since the first of January. And then like she said, we don't do relapses.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I might refer to a relapse as a relapse from time to time, but I don't believe in I I agree. I I think of it more of a slip. I had a moment, And that's it. We're not gonna if I was sober for 5 years, 5 months, 5 days, and I have a slip, that doesn't mean that all of that sobriety time gets thrown down the trash. You know, like like like some schools of mine try to make [00:33:00] you believe that it's fear based.

De'Vannon Seráphino: A fear motivate fear motivated recovery, and Anything that's done from fear is not going to last, and it also is not healthy for you. I feel like it's the ultimate contradiction For these spiritual based programs, so also the fear based programs when God has not given us a spirit of fear, but a power of love and of a sound mind, they talk against themselves. And so I just wanna let you know this is nontraditional. Definitely go to her website, which is turning leaves recovery dot com and see what she's working with because I think this may work for you. She's totally different.

De'Vannon Seráphino: You can hear the sincerity and the realness in her voice. She's a walk down the alleys. She's kept case of all the people you have too. She's not afraid of needles, tattoos, criminal records whether you're queer or not, whether you're trans or not, whether no, honey. We don't look.

De'Vannon Seráphino: When you've walked the as close to death as she and I have, You understand [00:34:00] how real, you know, this life is and how much more real the next 1 is, and we don't have time to major over minor things, especially things that don't don't affect us. Like, you're not trying to hurt us by existing, and so, therefore, we welcome you as you are. Now let me shift my cock holster up, I don't wanna shift gears over to this to these apps. Look. Look.

De'Vannon Seráphino: The Lord has been trying to warn us against the destructive nature of technology since, I believe, the days of George Orwell, Fucking Terminator. Okay. All of that is so the social dilemma on Netflix, Meagan, and then movie That crazy fucking doll, you know, that that that just came out not too long ago. Then spirit speaks to us through technology through media, and he's trying to warn us. We don't have to wait for Arnold Schwarzenegger [00:35:00] to come back as fucking Terminator or for the little liquid guy, the t 1000 model or whatever to come and try to fuck us up.

De'Vannon Seráphino: The Terminator is already here, and they are iPhones and Androids and shit like that. They're already here. If you have an enemy, the best way to to destroy them is from the inside out and then make them destroy themselves. And so As stated in the social dilemma, the only organizations in the world who refer to their customers as users are social media companies and drug dealers. Everybody else is a customer, a consumer, but the only users or people who are doing drugs are fucking around on their cell phones.

De'Vannon Seráphino: What do you think about the technological downfall of mankind? Well, 

Tricia Parido: here's what I think. I think that Again, we assign too much emotional purpose and weight to things outside of us in our lives. [00:36:00] Right? The closer that we eat to Earth, the the the more connected we are with the the land and that we live on, whatever that might let look like for you.

Tricia Parido: Right? Because even if you're in the concrete jungle, there's a central park somewhere. Right? Like, the more connected you are with with the Earth, the more You walk through your life in a in a space of integrity. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, you smile at your neighbors, so you you you approach life in the stance of a learner versus a stance of a judger, the better off that you will be. Now so so the age of the cell phone is here, but I'll tell you, like, it it is crippling a lot of things down to the text messaging. K? So when you receive a text message, Whose inflection or tone of voice do you hear? Your own.

Tricia Parido: You assign how that's gonna feel for you, [00:37:00] And you choose how that's gonna feel for you. And and and if and we never seek to get clarification. We don't use the power of inquiry enough. Like, Oh, before I respond, because we're knee jerk impulsive beings. Right?

Tricia Parido: Because we're addicts are recovering or, you know, just people that aren't any longer but know what it is if you don't identify as being in recovery. Right? But, you know, we're knee jerk impulsive beings, so we just say the first thing that comes out of our mouth. Like, I got this text message, and I wanna just say fuck you. And and instead of saying, oh, wait a minute.

Tricia Parido: Did you mean for that to come across so hurtful? Right? So we It it's removed our our communication. Like, we don't hear tone and inflection of voice anymore because we read everything. So we are it's left to our interpretation.

Tricia Parido: Are we assigning something from our past? Are we in a state of negative self esteem? Are we looking for external validation? [00:38:00] Are we comparing ourselves to find worthiness? Are we, you know, like, oh, I see.

Tricia Parido: I can make myself look like the biggest coach on the planet using social media. Right? Like, I can hire all the photographers, the this, the that, the other thing, and make it look like I can buy followers. I can do this and that and make people think like, oh god. I wanna be you.

Tricia Parido: If you are coveting, You are coming at it from the wrong space. Right? Like, if you are coveting what somebody else is doing, what they what they what you perceive they have, You are coming out living from the wrong angle. You need to know what you want your life to look like, feel like, be like for you. We we've gotta learn how to live for ourselves first without feeling guilty, selfish, punished, or restricted.

Tricia Parido: So when you're on social media, when you're reading the news right? Like, I have clients. I won't even let them look at the news because of it as they they get [00:39:00] so externally derailed by it and become emotional basket case because they're incensed by the injustices in the world, which I get. But, right, there's there's different kinds of distress. Right?

Tricia Parido: And and we won't get into that because we don't have time. But, you know, if we let A stress that we cannot directly impact or change, derail us. Right? And and change and manipulate the way our day is feeling. Like, it's purposeless.

Tricia Parido: It's just you making you crazy. So, you know, if we're if we're looking at like, I can look at Jennifer Lopez. Right? Like, her and I show the same age. And I could be like, holy heck.

Tricia Parido: Girlfriends got, you know, whatever. We don't have anything remotely of the same life. We did not have the same upbringing, we don't probably don't have the same views, opinions, values. I don't know. We don't have the same lifestyle.

Tricia Parido: Nothing [00:40:00] is the same, so why would I think that I need to look like her? Does right? So If you're going to use it in a nutshell, if you're going to use it, use it effectively for yourself. I get into social media to share meaningful, purposeful, valuable information, right, I guess, if you will. But I also use it to connect with and engage with people that either fill my cup or that I can help fill theirs.

Tricia Parido: Anything else is just noise. Getting in debates with people online does nothing. Right? Like, digging your heels in and trying to be right all the time doesn't serve you. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, Trying to convince somebody a little bit wrong. Like, everybody has we need to move into more acceptance. Acceptance acceptance of ourself and the fact that every other being is their own [00:41:00] unique individual being as well. And it's my motto is this. This is my life's motto.

Tricia Parido: Because I live by it, I offer it to every single person on the planet. This is my life too. It gets to look, feel, be however I want it to. I get to choose. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: That's true power.

De'Vannon Seráphino: That's true power. People with body image issues and self esteem issues really need to stay the fuck off of social media because there's too many people dolled up and Photoshopped up and everything, and they look too I mean, they look too good in in in the sense that if you are already operating from a deficit of self esteem and body image issues and all of that, and you have a a detached you you don't have a good relationship with yourself. You don't need to be looking at somebody who looks like They have everything like [00:42:00] like what they want. Tell you what I do with 

Tricia Parido: that. Right?

Tricia Parido: Because I mean, 1, sure. Great. If you can just put down social media and never look at it, That's fine. But let's not avoid the issue or the problem, and it's how you visually see it and and what it does to you. So we need to change that.

Tricia Parido: So we wanna cognitively allow you to see a Photoshopped photo and say, you know, that person that did that created that is very talented in their Photoshopping ability. Right? Like, let's give credit to the person that actually airbrushed this person to have a 19 inch waist. Like, that's pretty rad. I've tried to do Photoshop stuff, not on my body because I don't care about that.

Tricia Parido: But I've tried to do some Photoshop stuff, and that's hard. That's talent. That's a skill. So kudos and then turn with, I feel, right, I feel a connection with that woman who doesn't feel good enough about herself to not be on be seen without Photoshop. Right?

Tricia Parido: So now we can give give grace and say a prayer and raise somebody up for not feeling good enough. Like, why [00:43:00] why isn't it okay that she shows up in her sweats with the same message? Why is that? Right? And so we we have to separate ourselves from that and say, Right?

Tricia Parido: So it it's it's a process. It's a time. But if we don't correct our inability to see and perceive things for what they are. Like, that's not that real person. Like, very seldom do I get online or on social media without makeup, but guess what?

Tricia Parido: I very, very seldomly finish my shower without putting on makeup. Like, it's just part of my routine. I don't even have to have a mirror. Right? Like, it goes on with my lotion.

Tricia Parido: It's it's the exact same every day for the last, I don't know, 30 years. So it's not me trying to make myself up. Other people, right, go through most of their days without makeup and then put it on when they show up. Like, I don't even I put it on when I go camping. It's just part of my, you know, foundation is something that I wear.

Tricia Parido: If I don't, I tend to break out. You know? But, you [00:44:00] know, so we have to, you know, we have to Learn how to see things see through a different lens, 1 that serves us, and hear through a different filter so that And and I and I teach a filtrating boundary system that allows us to only let in that which will serve us, that which is for us. Right? Like, I'm glad I don't feel so poorly about myself that I need to Photoshop.

Tricia Parido: Right? Or I gotta work on why I'm looking at that person and and wishing I look I was them. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: And that and that transitions over. Well well spoken, you know, into men too who are on social media in various places who are not Photoshop because there's a real problem with the guy who has what he considers to be a nice looking body who feels the need to continually show it off. And, you know, there's a deeper need there.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And so for males with body image issues, do you see the fitness guy on there, whoever, Or the [00:45:00] model who always has his shirt off 6 pack or this or that. Honey, you don't know if he's going home and crying into his pillow at night. So just because you see these people who look like they're thriving, don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't because you don't. There's too much lateral looking around. They're neutral.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Right? 

Tricia Parido: Like, it's it's it's it's across the board. And, You know, again, be the best version of you. Love you for who you are. Unless you know somebody that you're looking at a picture of, you don't know them.

Tricia Parido: And even the people that are in your in your sphere of circles, like, You don't know all of them. You know what they allow you to know about them. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Yeah. Definitely. And you can you can be, you know, in a long term relationship with somebody and never really know them. So you gotta you have to you have to look up [00:46:00] to God, you know, first and most of all, because we look at humans way too much. You're never gonna do that because you weren't designed to worship humans.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And you need to look within up and within, but all this looking around is nothing but a distraction. Yeah. It's 

Tricia Parido: just voice. So if it can't be entertainment for you, then you don't need it. Right?

De'Vannon Seráphino: Entertainment in a good way. Like like entertainment a way that's not using somebody or something like that, you know, growing from it or something like that. Yeah. You know, we're talking about positive entertainment, not negative, hurtful entertainment. Can you explain how people come to be held hostage by habits?

De'Vannon Seráphino: Mhmm. And, Because as I I say it like this, I say options are the illusion of freedom. You know? Because some people are caught up on having experiences, which is a huge word that gets Tossed around, and people don't realize that they can be brought into bondage by things that make them feel good before they realize it. [00:47:00] Mhmm.

Tricia Parido: So, you know, my favorite thing to talk about is why living without a habits fixes everything. So let's just look at the definition of the word habit. Impulsive action without a lot of thought. So when you are seeking to Build a life filled with healthy habits? You're saying that I don't I just wanna go through life on autopilot not thinking in a very regimented, rigid way and and I'm not connected with it at all.

Tricia Parido: So because we've had a lot of focus on physical fitness, Right? And body and connection with body. Think about this. I can I can do this all day long with with weights in my hand? And I used to be a trainer, so I know.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, there's a whole different way. If you are connected, mind, body, spirit, and you're actually thinking about concentrating on the muscles. Right? Like, they're going to perform better for you.

Tricia Parido: But if [00:48:00] we're on autopilot and, again, I'm using this metaphorically. Right? But I can get a workout vacuuming and moving a pot full of water. Right? Because I can pick it up if I am present and I'm connected with me and what I'm doing, and I'm touching a metal handles on a on a, you know, a big pot, and I'm carrying the, you know, the big pot of water over to the stove.

Tricia Parido: I can engage my core. I can use my biceps, and I can, you know, make sure my shoulders are engaged so that, you know, I'm using everything. So if we're habitually going through life, right, like, we're just Free flowing, man. Like, it's we don't even know. We don't even know what we're doing.

Tricia Parido: So but here's the flip side to that. We also fall apart and crumble. So I saw a lot of this in the pandemic. Somebody trying to get up and go do their workout routine After things opened up, the kids couldn't go back to school. Anyway, they get up to go do theirs, you know, their 6 AM spin class or [00:49:00] whatever 6 AM workout, but couldn't go because their kids were sick and had to stay home from school or, you know, whatever.

Tricia Parido: Or, you know, the school shut down. So they didn't have that that place to take the kids that allowed them to go to this exercise whatever class. And their whole world would fall apart because they couldn't have That regimented, rigid, habitual thing that they did every day. Just like the cup of coffee, I can't pick it up and drink it. My morning is off.

Tricia Parido: Right? Is it the caffeine, or is it the habit? It's both. Right? Like, mhmm.

Tricia Parido: Why can't we just say you know what? 6 AM isn't working out for me today. I'm gonna go at 6 PM and have that be okay. Right? Like, we need resilience.

Tricia Parido: Right? Cognitive resilience, emotional resilience, and they're very different. And and[00:50:00] and we need the ability to be bendable, flexible, pliable our life. So we're super hard and rigid. Habits are rigid any way you look at them.

Tricia Parido: They have to happen a certain way. They have to happen at a certain time. Everything has to be just perfectly so and right? Like, talk about OCD, asking to be OCD. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, it's it it controls you, And it's a reliance on something outside of you. Again, I go back to that. I can't tell you enough how we are We've conditioned ourself over all of the years of our life to rely on things outside of us. When and the way we are designed was to to move into an internal locus of control position where we rely on ourselves to figure out the problem. Where am I gonna get food?

Tricia Parido: Where am I gonna get shelter? How am I gonna avoid doing that drug today? How am I gonna not rely on alcohol to calm this? Whatever. What would serve me better in this time and space, etcetera.

Tricia Parido: That all has to come from us, not from something out there. So we're habitually [00:51:00] relying on, right, people, places, things outside of us to make us what we want, like, that vision of perfection. So, anyway, We can be addicted to the gym. We can be addicted to all the things, all of our habits. Habits are an addictive 

De'Vannon Seráphino: behavior.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Oh, Thank you. Very well put. In hypnotherapy, because I'm because I'm a licensed hypnotist as well. We we refer to that as our Neurological pathways. Mhmm.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And, basically, that's a way of saying the shit's been wired into your head through repetitive thinking. It's like hard drugs for me, like cocaine and crystal meth and shit like that have not truly been enjoyable since I got HIV, like, 10 years ago. Mhmm. It it it threw me the HIV threw me in such a depression. It changed my anatomy and the way my bodies respond to upper [00:52:00]drugs.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And although I knew I wasn't you know, I kept trying to see if I could enjoy them again. I trying to rework it. It was just like a pattern, but it was never going to work. I just learned it, and then I still associated that old joy with something that was no longer Current. We do the same thing in abusive relationships.

De'Vannon Seráphino: We we get we get into a a pattern. We get wired to texting them at a certain time, hearing from them at a time going with them here, being with them there. And then we we associate an old joy that is no longer current. And those neuro those neurological pathways must be burned up and replaced, you know, because 

Tricia Parido: Redirected 

De'Vannon Seráphino: something. Right?

De'Vannon Seráphino: Something's gotta be done with them because it's old. You know, you're trying to live in the present with with a with a memory of something that's no longer real. And so it's a habit. It's a neurological pathway that's been wired into you that is no longer serving you, and it must be exercised out of you. Yes.[00:53:00]

De'Vannon Seráphino: So I think let me see. So we so now in the sex jokes and Jesus podcast, we're gonna be doing a a segment at the end of every show called dad jokes. It's just it's something that I that I've learned along the way. I've picked them up. And, you know, if if you take yourself so seriously that you can't appreciate a dad joke, then you definitely need to come get Counseled by Trisha over here because life's too short to not be a little corny from time to time.

De'Vannon Seráphino: But before I have to roughly shift gears and go into dad jokes this time. I think I'd like you to because usually, I would do do this a different way. But go ahead, and I want you to speak a word of encouragement to people and Let people know whatever it is that you wanna say. I'm gonna [00:54:00] go ahead and repeat your your outro stuff now. So her website is turning leaves recovery dot com.

De'Vannon Seráphino: She's on Facebook, YouTube, in in LinkedIn oh, Instagram, actually, Pinterest, and all of this will go in the showy notes As it always does. Now if you have any other social media, whatever you might be on that know about, any other bodies of work you want people to To hear about go ahead and tell them that now. Give your 1 I know 

Tricia Parido: I never was able to figure out that whole Pinterest thing, so you can I don't even know? I I tried. It didn't work out so well for me.

Tricia Parido: Basically, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn are my my really the only places I I truly hang out, and primarily Facebook. I I love to connect with people there, but just reaching out to me on my website, there's a button at the top right hand corner where anybody can book a a complimentary, you know, conversation. Just, you know, like, if you wanna pick my brain, book some time. [00:55:00] Easy peasy. I only have 1 phone number.

Tricia Parido: And and if you don't wanna do, you know, a booking and you wanna send me a text message just to see if we can have a phone chat, Totally fine also. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: All good. Any words of encouragement about anything we've talked about today that anyone's struggling with any type of addiction? 

Tricia Parido: You know, my word of encouragement is this, and I wanna empower everybody. And it's, you know, just kind of going back to about midstream when when you were talking about, You know, the differences in perhaps how I I practice and how how you think.

Tricia Parido: Right? And and you brought in AA. I've worked in every level of addiction treatment, and and and I and I actually, you know, sit on the California of alcohol and drug educators board as the acting president. And and I believe that there is value in every level of addiction treatment. However, that doesn't mean that every level of addiction treatment is right for each individual.

Tricia Parido: [00:56:00] So what I want everybody to hear here, Again, this is your life. So when you are looking to find that person to to work with or to walk with you in your journey, don't just assume that, You know, trauma therapy is what you need. Right? Don't just assume that you need to go away to a 90 day treatment program. You know, have a conversation with somebody that you can trust that will give you a true genuine opinion not seated in the ability to to earn money.

Tricia Parido: And I'll just tell you what. Like, I don't and not everybody is that way, but you can ask me. I'll tell you. Because if you're not the right level of care or we're not a good fit for each other, I'm gonna refer you anyway. Because my success rates and my stats are are are good for that reason because they don't bring people in [00:57:00] that I can't serve, that I can't help, that won't that won't benefit from the work that I do, from my craft.

Tricia Parido: Right? And I don't try to be something that I'm not. So what we wanna do is we want You want to regardless of what you're choosing. If you're choosing to go to a 30 day treatment program, get on the phone. Know, understand, like, trust, have full buy in to the therapists, the counselors, the support staff, the methods and modalities, and and approach of the program.

Tricia Parido: I know most people are like, I'm totally trashed and on drugs. How would I know? I don't know. I did. I spent 2 months getting to know the treatment facility I went to before I went, And I was in and out like that, and then came home and started my own pathway.

Tricia Parido: Right? Like, I had full buy in into the program. I knew who my counselor was gonna be. I you know, I I drove them nuts, I think. Right?

Tricia Parido: But you get to choose. So don't [00:58:00] you know, like, here's the deal. And I don't know. Maybe you guys will appreciate this. Maybe you'll be offended.

Tricia Parido: Hopefully, you'll you'll just appreciate this this fun analogy. Right? Like, we don't want to send a a yogi male to the dude ranch. Right? Like, don't go thinking, you know, like, the recovery ranch is gonna be your thing because you're gonna be digging shit.

Tricia Parido: You're gonna be cleaning stalls. If that ain't your jam, don't go there. Right? Like, you gotta pick the program that speaks your language. If I am speaking Swahili to you today, please don't call me.

Tricia Parido: If something that I've said resonates with you and you wanna poke around and, you know, look a little bit deeper, Right. Do that. If that speaks to you, call me. Right? Like, find your person.

Tricia Parido: Same thing. Sponsors. Sponsors are sponsors, and I think this is very valid and worthy of highlighting because you mentioned this in the group. They do it backwards from what [00:59:00]clinicians would. We would never end with a bomb, right, like a vulnerable bomb and leave somebody open and wounded.

Tricia Parido: They are not trained professionals. And even if they are in that space, they can legally not act as as as trained professionals. So if I showed up to an AA meeting, I can only go there as Little only with no credentials. Right? Like, can't show up and say, like, hey.

Tricia Parido: Look. Like, this is who I am, and this is what I do. Right? Like, I have to show up as just a person. And so, you know, a sponsor is a sponsor.

Tricia Parido: Their only their only purpose is to walk you through the 12 steps and and to teach you the traditions. Right? So that's that program. If that program speaks to you and you Feel it in your soul and you feel it in your gut and it's what you want, then do it. It serves a lot of people.

Tricia Parido: For me, I wasn't gonna sit in the same chair for the next 30 years telling my sob story. Like, I'll share my story with you if you wanna hear it, but it isn't my life today. It's just how it got here. Right? So so know [01:00:00] that.

Tricia Parido: Also, know that there's a difference between coaching and therapy and counseling. Coaches are meant to take you from right where you are in this moment and help you figure out how to shift things and move forward. Right? Like, it is our job to work ourselves out of a job. So, you know, my job is to take you from here to endure at the outcome that you want, but to do it ethically, morally, and and from a place of of knowledge, not just because I was able to do it in my life.

Tricia Parido: Right? So a lot of coaches out there. Right? Like, they they teach their their methods too. Right?

Tricia Parido: Like, they're like, oh, look. I I made this million dollars in my life. Come do it my way. Right? But they have no training.

Tricia Parido: They have no anything. So how can they teach it to somebody who's completely different than them? So, anyway, that's that's the empowerment they have for you is to it you are totally fine to find the 1 person that speaks your language. Even if it's the guy with [01:01:00] that sits on the park bench that is homeless. If he speaks to you and he can give you words of wisdom that help you, great.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I mean, that that that that's so true, and thank you so much for for Or explain it that way. Like like you like you're saying that the guy on the park bench, when I was in the mental hospital a couple of weeks ago, I was going through all of my self harm and everything, you know, dealing with, you know, life's issues related, you know, to my ex. But when I was in there, this man who was in there because of a stroke, I was in there, like, 7, 8 days, and he kind of had, like, a dementia thing going on too. He would just be talking to himself, you know, as as such. And I was just sitting down coloring, which is about all you can do in mental hospitals.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I watch TV and on the facility, but He just stopped. He he walked he walked up to me, and he just kind of, like, reached reached out his hand, and he was like, good people are coming your way. [01:02:00] You know, I don't know if he knew fully what he said because after he said it, the I I said, you know, I think God just spoke to me through you. He he he he said it kind of like how my evangelist who I talk about in my book, which I sent you a a free copy of. Oh, He he spoke to me kinda like how she would have whenever she was going forth with a word of prophecy because she was a highly clairvoyant woman.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And and I was like and then and then he was, like, I think, a little bit confused or whatever after, but the person on the park bench, people whose society discounts, You know you know, spirit can step into those people and speak to you what you need to hear. So, you know, let's still slow down and listen to wherever God may be speaking to us Just help you helping company in the most unlikeliest of places. For sure. And okay. So Thank you so much for for that.

De'Vannon Seráphino: And [01:03:00] and, again, all your information on the show notes. So now let's have us some dad jokes before we get out of here. So Bad jokes are meant to not be too funny. They're totally corny. Today's bad jokes are courtesy of men's health dot com.

De'Vannon Seráphino: I always have 3. I guess you could contribute if you want to. You are under absolutely no pressure to do so. I'm corny And all of those things, and I love it, and I love being this comfortable in my own skin. So number 1, so what do you call a line of men waiting to get haircuts?

De'Vannon Seráphino: I 

Tricia Parido: have no idea. 

De'Vannon Seráphino: A barber queue. What do you call a beehive that doesn't have an exit? Scary? Unbelievable.[01:04:00]

De'Vannon Seráphino: Oh, lord. Now this 1 isn't more of a Sometimes dad jokes aren't a question. It's kinda like it's kinda like reads like a statement like this. So did she know that the first French fries weren't Actually cooked in France. Can you guess where they were oh, I'll make it a question.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Can you guess where they were cooked at? No. In Greece. In Greece. 

Tricia Parido: Oh, in oh, jeez.

Tricia Parido: Look. That that was so obvious 2. 0 my gosh. That was totally obvious. Wow.

Tricia Parido: That was a good 1. That was my favorite. That was the favorite of the 3. I don't have any dad jokes. Actually yeah.

Tricia Parido: When you told me about it, I was thinking about, oh, how can I have a dad joke? Right? Like, I'm but I like your version of dad jokes better than [01:05:00] my my My trauma filled dad brain. Right? 

De'Vannon Seráphino: Alright, Joshua.

De'Vannon Seráphino: Well, thank you for enduring my dad jokes today and for sharing your wealth of knowledge and information, and I know that that has helped the world. We will talk to you next time. Thank you so much, and have a fabulous weekend.

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