Take A Knee For Marvel Vs DC
Flirting with Film Critique and the Equity Equation
This episode, we're dissecting love stories and testing out the Anti-Racist Hot Dog Game—an unusual yet compelling method to encourage anti-racism conversations. Expect a rollercoaster of emotions as we unpack the intense drama of "Salt Burn" and applaud the powerhouse performance of a certain actress in "Gone Girl." And when things get too heated, we cool down with "Down with the King," a cinematic gem that's like a breath of fresh mountain air after the scorching "Salt Burn."
Every superhero fan has pondered who would win in a Marvel versus DC showdown, and we're stirring the pot with a side of good-natured ribbing. However, the fun and games take a backseat when we grapple with the weighty implications of Noah Schnapp's controversial comments. Adding to the mix, we tease the forthcoming "Fantastic Four" casting news—because who can resist a bit of fan-casting fantasy? It's all about striking the perfect balance between lighthearted banter and diving deep into the discussions that shape our social landscape.
Diversity in the entertainment industry isn't just about checking boxes; it's about enriching our culture with varied voices and perspectives. This episode, we tackle the complex dance of casting choices—pondering whether we benefit more from a homogenous or a diverse storytelling approach. As the only black person in a white-dominated field, I share my insights on the necessity of pushing for equality and establishing a level playing field. So join us for an episode that's as varied as the colors of the rainbow—with hearty discussions, controversial debates, and a shared commitment to a more inclusive industry.
This episode, we're dissecting love stories and testing out the Anti-Racist Hot Dog Game—an unusual yet compelling method to encourage anti-racism conversations. Expect a rollercoaster of emotions as we unpack the intense drama of "Salt Burn" and applaud the powerhouse performance of a certain actress in "Gone Girl." And when things get too heated, we cool down with "Down with the King," a cinematic gem that's like a breath of fresh mountain air after the scorching "Salt Burn."
Every superhero fan has pondered who would win in a Marvel versus DC showdown, and we're stirring the pot with a side of good-natured ribbing. However, the fun and games take a backseat when we grapple with the weighty implications of Noah Schnapp's controversial comments. Adding to the mix, we tease the forthcoming "Fantastic Four" casting news—because who can resist a bit of fan-casting fantasy? It's all about striking the perfect balance between lighthearted banter and diving deep into the discussions that shape our social landscape.
Diversity in the entertainment industry isn't just about checking boxes; it's about enriching our culture with varied voices and perspectives. This episode, we tackle the complex dance of casting choices—pondering whether we benefit more from a homogenous or a diverse storytelling approach. As the only black person in a white-dominated field, I share my insights on the necessity of pushing for equality and establishing a level playing field. So join us for an episode that's as varied as the colors of the rainbow—with hearty discussions, controversial debates, and a shared commitment to a more inclusive industry.
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Speaker 2:So pause. This week we are not only going to talk a little Marvel and DC news civets that ever released, we are also going to play a new game that you brought out the Anti-Racist Hot Dog Game.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, how to have conversations over hot dogs and anti-racism, which will never, ever work anywhere in a workplace or at a party.
Speaker 2:Well, we are going to see about that. We are going to have a lot of fun with those cards, oz. What if you gave?
Speaker 1:me right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah it's intense. Do you want to know why it's intense?
Speaker 3:You want to know why it's intense. Because my co-host said, hey, why don't you watch Salt Burn? Because we are going to talk about that. And I said, oh god, that sounds like a great idea. And then I had to spend after I watched Salt Burn, taking my brain out of my head.
Speaker 2:So you did watch Salt.
Speaker 3:Burn. You constantly had to catch it and you would go away if you were treating them that way. But I started e barrel when rugby games. I was always supported a table by management, following it to kind of like San verapassal. And so he was. He's in that. Oh my difference. Let me see what's up with this and my girls in this. But the kicker was to me.
Speaker 2:Which one of them was your girls?
Speaker 3:Oh, the old, the mom, the mom is my girl.
Speaker 1:Everything.
Speaker 3:Girl, what she's been in oh, dude, like the she see.
Speaker 2:My thing for her is she's a reoccurring subtle character in a bunch of TV shows and moves in and I only say that because I don't know of her from anything else except from gone girl, and she was great.
Speaker 3:No, no, I know, but that's, that's her skill. She's a really good actress like she. Literally we could. I am Db her and a wiki her I. So the whole thing behind that is, if you watch her, she's so talented she's like the subtle person in all these crazy movies, dude. She's got a long track record, but we go. May I just, you know, do like. No, I must. I must follow a if you're in his spoiler.
Speaker 3:My mind was much better because the sound of yours you want to see some dude you do like hello. You see some dude do like some crazy stuff to a bathroom, bosset and think, cool, this is your movie for you. But man, it was just so much. But I will say this what I did to you, the sanitizer brain, I Watch down with the king, that I'm gonna finish this real quick, down with the king. To me he was the most subtle and Beautiful movie. Beautiful, it's a movie, that's a word. I've ever seen it a long time. It's about this MC Hip-hop rapper, right, and he's been burnt out and so it goes to the country and he meets people and he learns all this stuff, falls in love and it's all this stuff and it's it's. It literally is a Commentary of our like great resignation culture that we're experienced right now. It's so well done and the actress, so beautiful Gives, is the main actor in it. That made me feel good because I burn was bullshit.
Speaker 2:Word. Um all right, before we get too deep into things, we're already deep in it. Do I mean? It's at the table? It's?
Speaker 1:just taking it from.
Speaker 2:Marvel versus DC. I am your host, regular Scott.
Speaker 3:I am here with my co-host, who is no longer the common connoisseurs and she doesn't know who Shane she is the Ozzie Kilmacher though, if you're a friend of something that happened like yeah, dude, come on man, you, you pronounce the crazy. You said.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 3:Okay, cool. Well, I'm here with my co-host, who's no longer a regular person, he's just average Scott. Oh, that's regular, no, but okay, hey, you know I give a good point. I'm sorry I'm here with my new co-host, subpar Scott.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's better. I mean different. That's a part of anything different.
Speaker 3:It's just your, your, your average is this fucking amazing? What in all these years really? Hey, I'm a man like yeah, we know you're five-oh dude, we know your FBI that's what it won't trust. You shoot this motherfucker. That's why you, you know exactly I'm a man and I will shoot you. I will shoot you. Yeah, we're like, and we and we sound like, and that's what the man will say to us. He's oppressing us. Yeah, you're hitting on the right now, baby.
Speaker 2:You find me on Twitter. At me, boy. Marvel vs DC, whatever you me X what you talking about, dude?
Speaker 3:What's wrong? You still on 22 man.
Speaker 2:My god, you can find me on X.
Speaker 3:You can find me on X, of course, come on, you can find me, you know. He literally said just fine.
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Speaker 3:Um, you try to tell us why we had you guys find some my space.
Speaker 2:Check out our friends On Instagram though.
Speaker 3:I know you.
Speaker 2:What's your Instagram?
Speaker 3:Hey, it's not about me right now. Let's get back to the right thing to talk about you, okay.
Speaker 2:Mr Exxando.
Speaker 3:I don't care what it sounds like, just say it right. Dude you from your Twitter. Wait wet what yeah, come on. You can find it come by me yeah.
Speaker 2:It sounds like a like a cheat site. It's not like a site you go to. You don't want to be found, but you want to be come, come by.
Speaker 3:Is that not a miniature?
Speaker 2:Came and found me a couple things, couple of New snippets that have been lurking in the wind. You know I'm saying stranger things. Season 5 the final season, has begun filming and some fans have threatened a boycott over Noah Schnapps return. He made some comments that seemed to have divided fans.
Speaker 3:Okay, I got it, got it, get it, get it. What did this person say? To divide the fans? I tell someone like yo you bring, I mean my bad.
Speaker 2:Listen the Noah Noah, noah Schnapp.
Speaker 3:Noah Schnapps said what do you say on Twitter ads?
Speaker 2:Let me.
Speaker 3:You're gonna bring us back.
Speaker 2:I would expect you to actually ask me a good question. Okay, all right. So Will, after confirming that will is gave on the show, no, schnapp himself came out on a TikTok video earlier in the year and said I guess I'm more similar to will. Then I thought, despite his young age the stranger things are has also run in the controversy over the years, with his most recent currently unfolding in the news, and this is from Dexter to comm, written by Daisy Phillips. And so we give props. You know, and we give props what we need to Know has faced a number of cancellation calls, from a racial slur Scandal to a recent clip relating to the Israel Hamas war.
Speaker 3:Cool. What's the racial story?
Speaker 2:That's all I care about Noah's face in several severe backlash online After an Instagram story was shared in which he's seen laughing with friends in a coffee shop as they pass around stickers which say Zionism is sexy and Hamas is Isis. That's it.
Speaker 3:Yes, you fuck that dude.
Speaker 2:There you go, let me let me.
Speaker 3:Let me be very clear. Let's not let you need to let me be very clear about this.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna because I cuz I'm a big man from at it. I want to be very clear. I'm give me 30 seconds in you do count down. I'll break you down in 15. What's going on? Israel and Palestine breaking out into all the Middle East because of what's going on? Man murder is crazy murder is. It resonates and we're in, reverberates for generations. Okay, but you cannot equate Um, probably nine hundred, not fifteen, not twelve as we really said, but my murder is more to you can equate nine hundred with 20,000. How can you do that? That's like saying that you're literally saying my life is ten times more than your life. I'm like it's not. A life Is as valuable as any life you know, and what we're doing is an atrocity and what we're doing in our response to all the stuff is Seeing, not by the world, by the universe, you know.
Speaker 2:Well said. So yeah, like you said, beginning of the Fantastic, for they have said that that is locked in, loaded and the cast is ready to go. They haven't released yet, obviously, what they said. They have already decided on who the cast is. You have to pick one perfect cast. You I'm not gonna ask you to cast off all of them, but one perfect casting would be mr Fantastic, the thing, invisible woman, johnny storm, whoever you think would fit a role perfectly, one casting that you think work really well and fantastic. Or dr Doom, or whoever you think the villain should be right one casting that you would really like, a perfect cast member.
Speaker 2:I've got a couple. I've always kind of stuck with that. I always kind of run back to the guy, the gentleman that was the red ranger and power Rangers and it was a stranger things. I always thought he could be a really good Johnny storm.
Speaker 3:You know our dude from and he also was in. He put the the Nazi in Quentin Tarantino movie. He's in everything. I feel like he would make a very interesting doctor. Doom.
Speaker 2:Christopher Waltz.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's no, cuz I think you bring a different flavor to it, you know what they would be a better doctor Movie.
Speaker 1:I think we're not a capri.
Speaker 2:I would be a pretty good doctor.
Speaker 3:No, I'll see a big.
Speaker 2:And I think he could be just like his candy character, or he could be more like his shutter Island care. Well, see.
Speaker 3:So here it is. When you say that you didn't know you want someone who's in play, be doctor doom, not Leonardo being dr Do and so like to me. Oh, no, yeah, dude, I think so, dr. Do Dr Doon character out there if it could be famous or amus or not, play mist. You get to the roots of it, he is a immigrant European.
Speaker 3:He longs to See his mother again, and it's an all everything he does, all those Adjudicates or just to try and find him on, and so there's a, there's a sorrow, and there's a Ambition that needs to happen. And and we know, oh my god, you know, you know, you know, you know who needs to be after doom man. What's his face? Star Wars Adrian Was it, was it the. He was, he was the, he was the. He was the bad Skywalker. We're the bad Skywalker and Star Wars.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 3:He's the extra marine. Oh, he's Marines, dude, he's a badass In real life.
Speaker 2:He's the fuck around, he's badass, I you are talking about Adam driver.
Speaker 3:Adam driver will make the perfect Because he can embody that fucking longing.
Speaker 2:I don't appreciate the disrespect for the United, caprio no.
Speaker 3:So what we don't like to say and what we should start saying is hey, celebrities that fucking make these billions of dollars means millions of dollars. They played ourselves Canaries, iron Rhinos, leonardo DiCaprio and Johnny Depp, oh will.
Speaker 2:Smith, you say it all the way to. Will Smith, you say it all the way to.
Speaker 3:And Kevin Hart to. They all played the same fucking and rock. They all played their same people do. It's about family it's a it's about family.
Speaker 2:I'll give you a ridicule for five years, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, they have to, jason, and this is a more what love plays the same Every character is character is a same as an aquaman and it's not the same as Cal Drogo.
Speaker 2:Oh Dear God, what about them? Is the same as Cal Drogo?
Speaker 3:It's all this like a Mon brah.
Speaker 2:Cal Drogo. Come on, are you serious? You're not getting that one. I'll give you the other people you name your your spot on, but Jason Mamoa, you think the best?
Speaker 3:when you see a movie with Jason Mamoa, you see a movie like Canary's you may. You see a movie. You want to see them on the first face.
Speaker 2:You would not see in the same guy and see your show. See as you see in fast, that is not the same guy.
Speaker 3:Ah, yeah, I will do it. Yeah, I'm on a tariff all the way after a while Tom Cruise. Well, the convenience are different. Do comedians can be like a Comming Tom Cruise? Tom Cruise is the same mother. For you, tom Cruise, the jack-creature in two movies, the Jack-creatures in them in the book, is six foot five?
Speaker 2:Do that? Do you play eatin hunt one time I ain't figured out how to get out of that role, since. No no.
Speaker 3:Hey, no, he is. He's doing stunts at sixty years old, which means that he's stuck in the blood off Of something. Some seven-year-old kid oh my god, where do it's for real man, this guy, he's all like I'm 61, five foot one, and I'm so technology, fuck what you know. Oh.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know what, before I forget, while I'm thinking about it, I want to make sure we give a big shout out and happy birthday to Mr Philip Darnell. Shout out to you, man, happy birthday. You definitely get a Morgan Freeman for that. And now we know who the bullet that. We know who this bullet is for. It's from Claw. Shoot this motherfucker. You got to take that for Phil today. I'll be a happy birthday, bro. Shout out to you. I think he said he's the big four O. As you remember, that was like 30 years ago for you man, phil You're so.
Speaker 3:Hey, phil, I wanted to hear you some more talk when I turn 40. I remember sickly when I turn 40. Um, that was like the Titanic sink. Really want to think about this, have a birthday and also think about this um, your life is the main event and so treat your life like it is the main event. You don't need to treat yourself like you're the main character, but you need to treat your life like it's the main event and being 40, the big four O, it's a very important thing and I I suppose they have a birthday to you and, man, I wish to see you. Hey, now listen to us when you turn 80. So you say that he did 40 tops you.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you can be negative.
Speaker 3:I mean, I mean I replace a hard to find a brother Scott anywhere.
Speaker 2:Okay, we got one more. And he does have a question. We'll get to later on as well. We got a pack show. Next news to bit there is going to rumor of a rated R Spider-Man animated series. They naked Is who naked? What was the rated R? I guess it's probably gonna be blood and cursing in it.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool what you think about that so this is apparently from an online leaker named. Can we get some toast? Has shared some information from his Instagram. He is. He says their spoilers are about 72% correct rate and he has said that that they're in planning to release this. And how this fits into Sony's existing slate is Not yet known. With the current schedule being mad on web craving the hunter and venom three. All schedules be released in 2024 and 2025.
Speaker 2:Wow so, as far as what I think about it, I Think it's kind of cool. I mean, like I'm sure it's by these accidentally killed somebody on accident, snap his neck, punch somebody.
Speaker 3:Well, he's one of the superheroes. Never that has never killed anybody?
Speaker 2:No, we know of I.
Speaker 3:Mean no, no, like a cannon.
Speaker 2:That's what I think this rated R was gonna be like okay like I think it'll be. It'll be the spider-man Experimenting with this powers, realizing how strong he is. And maybe you're right, maybe he doesn't kill anybody, but he's absolutely collapsing some lungs you know, Arms, just like.
Speaker 3:No, I get it the same thing.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so there's that as well. But uh, so how's your? I don't even know what to do with you. Shoot this motherfucker. What did I do?
Speaker 3:Literally said hey, I'm up with the house suggestions. Like communicating with you, I.
Speaker 2:We also have Phil's question, which is he wants a list of 20 Villains who are black or not Caucasian, that are better or equal to a white hero or villain, without race or gender. Swapping them, for example, in the game example Icon for Superman is okay. If you want to do a multiverse version, that is okay, but you need to say which universe. Thank you mighty Oz and perky salty, angry regular Scott.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think a Phil happy birthday game. One and one more time. Hey, the whole point of this is like any black character in Convux, is it always equal to any white character?
Speaker 2:So, and he also said that he loves to rap with my co-host. You know her name. Yeah, man killie. Do not her name. You really don't. You really can't remember her name. What's her name? Kayla, sure trouble killer.
Speaker 3:Good you keep saying Kayla, yeah, we have a really good conversation. That's a lot social media you did not know, really we do.
Speaker 2:I don't in my head that's weird. I.
Speaker 3:Was a blade for I would.
Speaker 2:He loves to rap with Kila cash and would like to shout out there as well WTC for life, white child club. Benny McDonald, you rock my brother. Shout out to you later, gator. Benny replied happy birthday, my boy. Blade who's his white?
Speaker 3:Any fucking white vampire slayer no. Okay, d D from the animated show D who's the Dracula son? Cool what you got you next.
Speaker 2:So blade Was derivative of him. My borrellas.
Speaker 3:And his derivative.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, you have to say it. Peter Parker, Okay cool. John Stuart, how Jordan.
Speaker 2:Oh, are we battling.
Speaker 3:Can you just get over when people look at you and you feel like they're trying to attack you? That's not a damn problem. That's the you problem, dude.
Speaker 2:Wally West.
Speaker 3:I only do it. This man's you. You mean you're back. I mean like I came here with my mask on and I was thinking with my pants and stuff. He's looking all suspicious. I mean I'm like you, won't you? This is.
Speaker 2:Wally West is the river to the very island. Okay, cool word, um, take your time, I Went by already got my next one in the chamber. There might be ballgame for you.
Speaker 3:It's on.
Speaker 2:You could earn your comic-con story title back here.
Speaker 3:You'll see that in after 9 o'clock next Wednesday, you gave up your scam.
Speaker 2:Difficult to bring back.
Speaker 3:Well, it was actually before.
Speaker 2:But and he's a derivative of of cat man man, of derivative by Panther- no, Catman was a whole like so. I just want to make sure black Panther was made in the same vein as.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, absolutely. I forgot all this stuff. Keep going new Fox and Bruce Wayne? Absolutely not. Why that way? No um.
Speaker 2:He wanted him to be the Batman of that area. That's exactly what he was for. What do you mean? That's exactly what Batman ink was created for was for him to be there.
Speaker 3:Okay, iron man Rody, yes, your turn now. No, no, no, I did back iron, your turn.
Speaker 2:Bishop and cable Nope. Why doesn't that work?
Speaker 3:Nope, because Bishop is a Pond traveler who came from another timeline Because of this apocalypse that happened because of gambit and cable is Nothing but just Jean and Scott's son displaced they do, but they have nothing to each other. Okay there's a. Even when they had a whole series of a comic book, they have nothing. They're not derivative each other. They're not. No, you're not. You know, I was that one.
Speaker 2:Jamie Reyes and record.
Speaker 3:Jamie Reyes and report Okay, white Adam and Puerto Rican. But that's not that's not the same thing, literally dude.
Speaker 2:Well, how was it not? That's like. That's like me saying Amonist show is the same as Bruce went, bruce Banner Because of both the Hawks.
Speaker 3:Why is your blue beetle thing Okay, but that one is not. And even honest show what, what, what, what, what, what do you mean? They're both the Hulk. So I'm as chose, okay, I don't have a problem. I'm like saying like, yeah, that's fine, it's okay, you, you, you. You have me confused because you're seeing, like I thought you were saying Omnis show and Bruce Banner don't work, because they know they're the same thing, they do work.
Speaker 2:They do work.
Speaker 3:Okay, we're great, keep going.
Speaker 2:That's my pick.
Speaker 3:Okay, how?
Speaker 2:many we at like seven they're double an echo. How are they to say dare double was trick.
Speaker 3:My stick echo was trim by dare though Stick. Dare double commitment, kids powers. And dare double top echo.
Speaker 2:The mimicry powers Go ahead if that's, if that works in my cable and Bishop should work.
Speaker 3:That's. That has nothing to do with you. They're not. They're not a cause and effect like Peter Parker is a cause and effect for miles around us. Absolutely not no, because of like that, they're their root nature of the spider and the locks. I Don't have a problem that I don't have. So what's the I don't? I'm just trying to say you need to move on, it's your turn.
Speaker 2:I'm just not sure about that one working.
Speaker 3:Why not? What does it work?
Speaker 2:Let's go with. Okay, mr Terrific, and Bruce Wayne, and who Bruce Wayne?
Speaker 3:absolutely zero.
Speaker 2:Why doesn't that one work? You tell me why it does work two geniuses both wear masks, both and highest peak physical Attributes and both use physical get and both use gadgets.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but but the root of what Phil said was there. One cause the other to do this thing, like miles were Alice and Peter Parker, bruce Wayne and Mr Dr. If you don't work like that, well, you told me who.
Speaker 2:Fox and Bruce Wayne don't work like that either, and one definitely cause the other.
Speaker 3:Um, but then I bet you have that and I moved on. So they didn't know. No, so that there was no, you said it and I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 2:I didn't David Wayne and Bruce Wayne.
Speaker 3:Dude no, no, no, no, that's the easy one. Let's go, because it's a family, remember dude something you Okay.
Speaker 2:So what about two Cuz he's?
Speaker 3:not white.
Speaker 2:So I don't understand why wait. Hold on hold on, buddy, buddy.
Speaker 3:I just need you to be the great and figure out something easy fix like. Damian Wayne and Bruce Wayne are like fucking, they're way Wrong with you. No, do something. That's like different man. Yeah, I wouldn't say this while being insulting.
Speaker 2:It just feels like it's very lazy Like like I'm running out of people, so I have to you, to what have what we, what?
Speaker 3:okay? What will you do Um Donald Blake Thor and Jane Foster Thor?
Speaker 2:which one's not white man. They're both occasion. That was his question.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. How about this Okay?
Speaker 2:here you go, Sam Wilson and Steve Rogers that's great. Thank you no.
Speaker 3:I mean like literally. I was like I don't, I don't, I don't try to get you, but I will call you your bullshit. It wasn't no um, you said incorrect statements several times, but like I did say the right thing.
Speaker 2:You were like Ah lazy, we'll get do a little quick review already told the people we were gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2:Got it. Gotta make sure we keep our words to the people. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert salt burn is essentially about a rich kid who was the poor kid over to his house for the summer, yeah, and what ensues and happens. And there does need to be a dialogue about Barry, the actor who played the main character Mm-hmm. He's in a lot of weird stuff killing of a sacred year. He also plays a weirdo and that one who manipulates and infiltrates a family. Same way, doesn't this one yeah, we've already played this boy, I see essentially just goes through and kills every single person in the family and so he ends up owning the castle and all the money that they have. I think the butler realizes what's going on from the jump. Doesn't really like. I'm kind of fishy feeling. And everybody else loves him.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Where you're tossing the movie eyes.
Speaker 3:He's a little way. He's a very decadent and shitty movie. I Is this over the top with a licking of the. I'm a man, come on, dude, like you think. I saw that and I played it with when I saw it down with the king. This other slow movie like we're pretty good, everybody else like man. These. These are two similar movies with two very different movies, you know, yeah, so yeah, it was definitely a.
Speaker 2:It was a weird and awkward wash. He didn't. I for a second, I'm not gonna lie. When he started drinking the period blood, I thought he was a vampire for real. I thought I genuinely thought this is about to turn into like a vampire flick I just the way that was, but that it was just Really weird. But on our ranking scale us we are going to to rank it we know we have the tippy top, which is the Morgan free. After that we have the lovely Iris West.
Speaker 1:Well, sometimes you are not the flash.
Speaker 2:After that, we have, you know, friday, that middle road, which is, you know, solid six, that we have the jacks. You know it's just there. Yeah, these motherfuckers work, and then underneath the jacks we have nothing, because that means you got a donut.
Speaker 3:I'll tell you right now salt burn, that was that. That that's what top burn was to me.
Speaker 2:It was terrible.
Speaker 3:It was terrible, dude.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 3:Was just trying to make me feel emotions for no reason, you know yeah, I'm gonna give it a jacks. Really, what works about these?
Speaker 2:so I do actually like the way they set the movie up, like I like the beginning with him, with him like talking about what happened, and then we see it at the end that he's talking to the mother who's the last one standing. So I did like that aspect of it, the way he kind of wrapped it all up. I would have appreciated if maybe the brother would have got him at the end and he would have.
Speaker 2:You know I would have appreciated that and I probably would have gave it a little bump. But I like weird movies like I like mid-somar and all those 824 stuff. This just.
Speaker 3:I know.
Speaker 2:That's all we got.
Speaker 3:The slow.
Speaker 2:Let's let's get ready to wrap up with some Anti-racist hot dog cards here, here We'll do one card each. Why stories of self? Why is it important to understand the?
Speaker 3:Before we question, I said we got these cars from my sister for a Christmas gift because she Was a provoking bear. My mom Auntie yeah.
Speaker 2:Why is it important to understand the perspective of social, culture and racial groups other than your own?
Speaker 3:For empathy, to understand what other people have gone through, so that they can relate to what you've gone through, as you relate to a thing on through to.
Speaker 2:In the second part of that question what are your favorite books or films from a culture outside of your own?
Speaker 3:No. My god, my god. The culture is designed for white people, so it's like anything.
Speaker 2:But to be fair. So I'm gonna make it a little bit harder. Give me a all-white movie or show that you enjoy, that you would put there that. Give me an all-white show or movie that you enjoy.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean like there's Worthy just reeling the black character with it.
Speaker 2:Unless it's just like a random one.
Speaker 3:I can literally tell you there's no all-white Show, that's not sure that I enjoy friends.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 3:Don't enjoy that. Oh, so you're projecting on me. Let me tell you like, once again, there are zero all-white shows that I enjoy and love. Now this guy loves friends, but that's not me. Yes, I'm just thinking of a show. That's why we throw out friends. Friends is an example that I lead to where I make people go. If you're white and you like this shit, you're fucked up but I do enjoy Sign-fills.
Speaker 2:They don't have a lot of black people in there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know and I don't Because it doesn't mean shit to me and even girls I Am seeing. Yeah, okay um, do you follow? I literally just said there's not any white show that you enjoy. There's none, there's zero. And I, and I said you're here to you. I don't want there are zero White all-white character shows that I enjoy, that I get any meaning from. There are zero. I Don't be any cultural reverence or anything from that shit.
Speaker 2:I don't ask you for a cultural reference, I'm asking if you like. So you don't like the movie the breakfast club.
Speaker 3:No really that's a good movie and the reason I don't like it, get tell me. Take a while guess.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't get upset if there was an all-black movie that didn't have white people? I wouldn't even the same way I would get upset if there was all-white movie, didn't have black people. I was a good movie. I'm gonna enjoy it Cool.
Speaker 3:Um well, we, we disagree um. I feel, in this America, in this cultural world, for you to have an all-white cast. You're being a fucking asshole.
Speaker 2:I don't think you should have an all-anything cast.
Speaker 3:Well, cool, I love that I straight, but um, I do.
Speaker 2:What I mean. That that's fine, but I, you can't what's the problem?
Speaker 3:I'll have the all-black cast for something but you can't.
Speaker 2:You can't say that and then say you don't want them to have an all-white cast.
Speaker 3:Yes, you can, because, because, all, because the history of everything you know has been all white all this, and that's all you see. No, no, hey. I want to finish my statement real quick. That's all you see. That's all you see in the mirror and that's all you visualize. So that's not appropriate, dude. It's not appropriate.
Speaker 2:You can't say it's appropriate to have an all Whatever and then say it's not appropriate. Okay, okay, okay. So, I want let me, let me.
Speaker 3:I want to ask you this from your. I want to ask you this from your side of things. Okay, so there are 10 people at table. Six of these people are always eating the most delicious food ever, all the time. All the time. Three of three of the ten Get some of it and they're okay. One doesn't get anything. Is it okay for you? In your head, they're like go like no, no, that's fine, you know, because that's equal repuss representation, because they're all at the table, or do you feel that, to really understand, and that get a full empathetic way of how we deal with everything.
Speaker 3:Everyone at the table will bring the thing to the table. I'm asking what do you think is better? Do you think, do you think it's better for the majority to like show how we need to go, yeah, or do you think that?
Speaker 2:Everybody bring it to something, or do you think everyone has, like you said? But what does that have to do with having an all white or all black cast?
Speaker 1:Well, it goes like this or an all.
Speaker 3:Indian cast or an all Indian cast.
Speaker 2:But I want to say this to you right here, scott so essentially, what you're saying is you're okay with not having white people on the cast.
Speaker 3:I'm totally okay with that, because. But let me let me, let me finish them, let me you, you say these things and I want to have a chance to actually tell you why I said I feel this way. You all, I will tell you from your existence, in your life, from zero to now. From like birth to now, you've only known Cultural references to white people.
Speaker 2:Do I have white privilege to an extent? Well, I mean, it is what it is.
Speaker 3:Like that's a whole other thing. But I want to tell you just from your eyeballs, from what you smelled Like from what you tasted, touched, looked at, inherited. It's been from a white perspective.
Speaker 3:All this time. So why is it not okay To hear something like, oh, here's a different view from you. Because and the problem that people have with that is like going, hey, oh my god, whoa, whoa, you're gonna take away from this. Let me know, what we're doing is enhancing our thing, and when people say, oh my god, you have a problem, all white or all black, that's because you come from a european, eccentric, fucking way of looking at shit. Dude, where, where, where, where all the accomplishments of fucking awesome other people didn't look like, they didn't look like. You were silent, and you feel it, everybody feels it. That time is done, because it was a bullshit time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's. That's not what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that I don't think there should be at all anything, because if you want people to understand your culture and you want people to understand the way you go about doing things and you need to have people In the mix you need to have people a part of that, you need to have people on in that set to see how black Right, so one more time, one more time. One, one more time different races and minorities on there that can pick different things.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna give you this.
Speaker 2:I don't understand why that's a problem.
Speaker 3:Well, it's not you're against that.
Speaker 2:It's not a problem. Why are you against white people being on these sets and picking up these things?
Speaker 3:Well, it's not a problem, but I want to just redirect it from one more time after you.
Speaker 2:I've been doing.
Speaker 3:I've been doing what I've been doing for a long time and and I've seen this um For a long time, a very long time. Whenever there's any sort of production that happens, like for things that we love to do, like what we love, like movies and stuff, I've been the only black person on a set and and before you interject, I wanted to just give you a little background for this. So if we're all talking about like, like, say, if I'm going to shoot, we're about racial equality and I'm the only black person in the set, what does that mean?
Speaker 2:Well that's not right.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying no no, no, no, but I want to bring, I want to bring it down to you. So Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, let me, let me, let me. I like, I said, I just want to just give like, just give me 30 seconds, that's all. I'll give you a couple minutes. So if you see that and then, and then you get a chance to have an all-black set To fix issues that have been, like, historically not corrected. I, I read up to you what's the problem with having an all-black crew and set on a on a thing when for for? So say, well, well, well, let me, let me, I'll let you answer. I said, say this say for One year you had an all-black crew and set on a on a, on a on all films. What's the problem with that when, for 100 years, you had an all-white crew? It's not equality, it's equity, right?
Speaker 2:it's equity. Essentially, what you're saying is because you guys did us wrong for a hundred years, you owe us a hundred years of us having us doing it to you.
Speaker 3:No, no, no. I know. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, because you said, you said but I want to be clear with you I want. It's not a oh, it's just saying it's equity, equity, equity is not only.
Speaker 2:You're saying a year of all-black company owned all black everything. No, no white people involved. So essentially what you're saying is you would turn away someone more qualified who was white To have someone less to have. It's a yes or no to have someone less qualified in the positions Just because they were black?
Speaker 3:so yes, yes or no, no, I'll give up. You see, that's where that's, that's where that's where the conversation always falls. Well, no, no, no. Well then, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me answer your question. It's not a no because it because you have to go like this. You gotta get deeper into it. The question, what you just said, are you really thinking about like going oh my god, wait a minute, one year of a black owned thing for whatever Equate to this? You ask that you have to ask the larger question. This has been a reality, right?
Speaker 2:This is payback. Oh, it's not payback, so what up? So it's a yes, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:Two people going for the exact same regular sky. Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1:I'm because I'm not you know, you know.
Speaker 3:Let me finish my thing, Because I want to explain the seat. I want to really explain the seat. What you just said is hey, is payback is so above? It's not ever payback.
Speaker 2:That's where all no, let me finish. Why isn't it a yes or no question? It's a yes or no question. If two people are being interviewed for the same position, the white person is clearly more qualified. They're going for the same position. You would hire a black person, the black person going for it. There was a black person, a white person going for it yeah and the white person is clearly qualified, clearly more qualified, you would hire the black person just so you could have an all-black owned company, right?
Speaker 3:So that's nothing to do with what we were talking about. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Black owned Scott.
Speaker 2:That's what we were talking.
Speaker 3:No, scott, that's not true.
Speaker 2:That is 100% what we were talking about regular stock.
Speaker 3:I want. I'm going to tell you once again what you just said.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:I, I Get, I'm listening to you, but I really want you to Actually listen to me. What I told you was and what I will say to you from the beginning is Amen. It's a difference between going a one year of this based off of like, like, institutionalized shit. What you said has nothing to do what we originally said. You know it literally has nothing to do with you said. What you said was a actual Thing. That's usually said to derail the conversation and I'm surprised what you say, that I'm like no dude. Let's redirect this to what we originally said. I want to get back to the institutions.
Speaker 2:You know, nothing said about institutions.
Speaker 3:Was implied. Do you want me to take those implied? No, I don't, I don't well, I'm gonna take it long on this show it's okay, this is good one for you, for me, and for us the reason, the original intent was going hey, you just said would you hire a qualified this person over this person? Dude, that's not. That's not what we're talking about. There is a question I would like to ask you. Hey, you know what? And that's a different question.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm asking you now though.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, because we still haven't gotten to our original point. I will answer your. I'll answer that new question on a different show. But, brother, I don't. I don't because you, you do rather the question.
Speaker 2:I didn't. I was answering your question, you're not you're not, you're not, you're not because you literally said hey, what I?
Speaker 3:said to what you said are two different things. You said would you not hire a different person if they're more qualified? I'm not talking about that. What I'm talking about, it's not a question.
Speaker 2:I'm answering your question. You just said you had a question.
Speaker 3:I don't, I know I didn't, I, so I'm gonna answer question. Your original question is again you cannot equate People trying to have their own self destiny after being marginalized for hundreds of years with Going oh, wow, but what does it mean if you own your own stuff? Are you not gonna hire people like no, no, but we have a choice, dude. It's all about choices because, like, white people forever have never, ever have a choice to like let us succeed or less, like not have a have a way in, if you see it, by the way we are now. I Live in the industry, I work in the industry. I have worked in this industry for 30 years, plus I Know what the fuck I'm talking about. It's 30 years. If you got 30 years on me on something, hit me up on something Like I'm listening to you.
Speaker 3:I've always been the only black person in my field in the long time, dude, and it's crazy. And and why is that? Go back to your question. You said hey, if I just hired the most qualified white person over this black person, what I do it, I'll flip it to you. I have been, I've been the most qualified. So what does that mean to you? I Want to go back to the original question to you. It goes like this what we were talking about when I first said to you was going hey, equally, dude, you have to level the playing field. If people have been fucking, cheating and fucking this shit up for a long time, why can't other people be like yo? You've been cheating up that. We see you're cheating, we're leveling shit up. We're not cheating, we're leveling out. No, sir, Literally just told you. I said hey.
Speaker 2:But that is. That is what you're saying. I just said if you level the playing field, we need to level the playing field. If you have an all-white, we need an all-black, or if you have an all-white, we needed an all-spanish instead of why don't we get some people in there? Oh, why don't we get a mixed people, a mixed crew? So then, when those white people who were in the in the black studio, when they leave and go do that thing, they like, hey, why don't we do it like this is I've actually worked on a black- set.
Speaker 3:So what I said of just having a closed off.
Speaker 2:The whites allowed set right, so cool.
Speaker 3:So what I said to you is not anything you want you, just what you just heard. Oh, that's cool. What I said to you and what you just found out is in your own head. I just literally said hey, why can't we here's my interpreter Interpretation why can't we level the playing field where we know the game and the games you've been playing, we say we're not playing those games anymore. Where we say this is what we're doing you have a Tennessee and I love it for you and see that, oh my god, we have to make sure everybody's fucking calling every. It's not gonna be cool because, because you know why? Because because People have been fucking taking advantage, and when you and when you realize that you You're not, when you are the person that has been taking advantage, like it's not gonna be fucking cool anymore dude.
Speaker 3:So why can't it be your time Well, I'd be, without being fucked up. Time you think people getting hurt just rewards? It's like a fucking thing, Really want you to see right now your question we're waiting for all the people.
Speaker 3:Oh Me, not us. Tell me what your context is. What do you believe? Okay, well, to be very clear, so if people, people have been so if, historically Um, it's not people, it's two people, um, john and Pond. John and Pond have 10 apples and well, john has been historically taking seven apples all the time. He sometimes takes eight, but then Pond is like nine. I take all eight because I need to list two or three. So historically that's to happen. And then there's this great awakening, or a rainbow, or an alien invasion where something happened, or a disease where they, oh, wow, we're going to fix this.
Speaker 3:Man, it's not a brain In your head. You think Pond's fucked up for asking for his fucking, for asking for fucking five apples. In your brain you think, hey, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's to what you've been saying, john. You say hey because John has been cool and has, he has been crazy, he's, he's okay to take these seven to eight apples. And in your brain you think that it's weird for Pond to be like yo dude, can I get five?
Speaker 2:No, I do think that if you and you, and you and you and you, in your head, you think, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I decided that they were going to take the apples and the only people who were going to get apples were him and his friends.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no no no, I'm, I said, I said, I said.
Speaker 2:I do think that would be messed up, but I don't think that he would own it.
Speaker 3:Regal Scott, you've been trying to cut me off. I'm just talking about the rules. No, I'm, I'm, I will. Regal Scott you had the three apples. Once again, you, you, you, you go to this other thing. And I said there are only two people.
Speaker 2:We don't have to. You win, you got it, but we got to. We got to go.
Speaker 3:The show, the show is going on. There's Pond and John.
Speaker 2:We've been talking about the same thing for like 20 minutes. The show is going on. I'm not ready. Let's wrap up. Where do you get to close that?
Speaker 3:way.
Speaker 2:That's way too long.
Speaker 3:Get your fucking apples. And and this year you should be getting what you deserve and what you need to have. Shout out to the all white, all black, and if people want to tell you that, that their interpretation is it's either, or maybe you need to redirect it like no, it's me getting what I need. Yeah, so that's what you're checking out.
Speaker 2:Let's read Um I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm going to take one more time. If there are 10 apples and someone's been sucked on, you deserve to say can I get five?
Speaker 2:Don't be surprised they say no.
Speaker 3:And that's a right. But don't be surprised If you say no back and say I need them.
Speaker 2:No, please. Um, I'll be checking our future season two. Um, I'm going to try to do find any of you. You haven't started season two at all. Okay, I'm going to try to find a legal stream of DC crisis on infinite earth, part one, cause I'm not paying for that. And then I am going to figure out an 824 movie Uh, there's some that I haven't watched yet a couple horror movies, so I think there's one called 10 apples.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you, uh, you need those. Uh, I'm going to try to figure out a 24 movie. I'll let you all know that, what you guys can watch if you prepare for the next episode. Uh, we definitely won't be playing the anti-racist.
Speaker 3:Apparently, apparently, apparently it's like hey, listen. Yeah, that's a way too long of a conversation.
Speaker 2:Well, and you know what?
Speaker 3:I'll. I'll just say this I don't think anybody enjoyed that.
Speaker 2:Um I did. Um, I'll just say I'm talking to the listeners. We'll see.
Speaker 3:We'll see from the comments but I will say this Um, if it's uncomfortable, it's good. We should be more. It ain't good for the listeners, though they didn't.
Speaker 2:They didn't want for the listeners. Well, listen, we'll figure out what you guys like. Let us know what you think about it. If you like it, we'll. We'll come back next week with another anti-racist hot dog show.
Speaker 3:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:We'll go a whole show on it. We'll have a brand new show called the anti-racist hot dog.
Speaker 3:I will. We know that will happen. The injured can't get together.
Speaker 2:Oh, I can get it because I'm the one who does the thing and, as always, we will talk to you next time. I said we talked to you next time.
Speaker 3:He did everything.
Speaker 2:Y'all have a good time. We're going to have a good time until we talk to you about the next show.
Speaker 3:And nothing.
Speaker 2:And chicken creeps, because we don't have any left.
Speaker 3:Shoot this motherfucker.