Getting Out With Jesse Xander
Raw, unfiltered, conversations and interviews filled with laughter.
Getting Out is Hosted By Me, Jesse Xander, Im a singer/songwriter, musician, and audio engineer…..oh yeah, I’m also an ex con and a recovering addict. I spent 3 years in prison, during the covid pandemic and locked down 24 hours a day for the majority of my time. So every day is a gift that I have to remind myself to even open.
I spent most of my young life in the Entertainment industry. I had the privilege to work with artists such as The Sugar Hill Gang, Biz Markie, Poppa Don, Inner Party System, Ty Wiz and many others but before I knew it I was in sooo deep I didn't think id ever be able to GET OUT, let alone repair all the damage I caused. But I’m alive and I’m free.
I started Getting Out to tackle topics such as addiction, mental health and Prison Life-which comes with stories of loved ones passing and a lot of pain. But also stories of redemption and over coming. GETTING OUT gives us a chance to look at ourselves our past mistakes, and hopefully help someone that is dealing with something similar.. Or maybe you’re just interested in what prison life is like and want a good laugh? We got you.
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Getting Out With Jesse Xander
Ep51 How My Mother Met My Father/A Chance Encounters on the B Train
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Twists of fate and chance encounters shape our stories, just as they shaped my mothers astonishing 45-year marriage, which all started with a glance on the B train. Join us as we explore the unpredictable nature of life, from the eerie recollections of a potentially haunted house to the difference in the rent prices of yesteryear and the economic realities of today. This episode, love, resilience, and the pursuit of dreams collide.
This Episode is a celebration of the unsung heroes in our lives.....our parents. We acknowledge the profound impact our supporters have on our journeys. It's a heartfelt tribute to those who have been our bedrock, culminating in a belated Mother's Day salutation that honors all caretakers, whether mothers or single fathers, who have dedicated their lives to nurturing the next generation. HAPPY MOTHERS DAY
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Welcome to Getting Out the podcast. Well, you're saying you sound better, though, right? Yeah, I sound a lot better than I normally do.
Speaker 2No, it's because you think All right you always told me this that you don't hear your real voice.
Speaker 1Absolutely not. Just like you don't see yourself when you look in a mirror. Yeah, we talk about that all the time.
Speaker 3It's funny how you said that, because someone told me that and I always stuck with it. You never in life can see yourself what you really look like. Well, you know what you can do the way other people see you.
Speaker 2Wait a minute, wait, wait.
Speaker 1If you look in the mirror, and you take a handheld mirror or you have a mirror behind you. The reflection from that mirror into the mirror is what you look like to other people.
Speaker 2That's different yeah that's what you're saying. It's like the picture of you, of what other people see on a picture. That's how you look. That's how other people see you.
Speaker 3But when you look in the mirror.
Speaker 2That's not really what you're. It's like the reverse of yourself and that's very weird too, how it's like the camera flips, you like it's just like when you see an ambulance and you look in your rear view mirror you see it says ambulance. But if you look at it, it's backwards if you look yeah, it's written backwards on the front of the ambulance like Turn yourself a little this way.
Speaker 1So that you can talk to us.
Speaker 2Kevin, which way Turn this way?
Speaker 1Are we recording right now. Just turn your seat this way.
Speaker 2So that you can look at Kevin.
Speaker 1Oh, that's what I was trying to do, and then turn them.
Speaker 2Then push it back, no, no, back towards the cabinet, mom. Yeah, and now push the mic in front of you a little bit to the sides. There you go, and that's better, better, a little closer.
Speaker 3So when you can look at me, there you go, perfect. Thank you, there you go.
Speaker 2Now you can see him, you can see me.
Speaker 3You can see everybody.
Speaker 1Everything except for me over there.
Speaker 2Yeah, because you're blinded by the light, except for me over there. Yeah, because you're blinded by the light. Yes, but if?
Speaker 3you want to talk to the fans?
Speaker 2say hi, yeah absolutely, but it's Mother's Day. It was Mother's Day yesterday. We're recording this on Monday Monday. Yeah, monday Monday, nature or damn, yeah, but yeah, it was Mother's Day yesterday. What did you? So you know, you guys know my brother, we do the show and we're starting our own.
Speaker 1You went to work with Anthony. Yes, yesterday's Mother's Day was Take your Mom to Work Day. Okay, and I was his sous chef. I didn't even know that was a thing.
Speaker 3I knew there was a Take your Kid to Work Day.
Speaker 1I made it up, jesse, oh what.
Speaker 2I love it you made that you were just saying that to me.
Speaker 1Take your mother to work day.
Speaker 2So Anthony, but Anthony then had to make who decided that.
Speaker 1Anthony said I want you to come with me to work on Mother's Day.
Speaker 2We'll spend the day together that's so nice of him and you'd be amazed.
Speaker 1They love him. He's got at least 15 people under his wing, I believe it. They all respect him. It was okay, boss, I got you. Yes, anything he wanted, done, they did, and they killed it. Three seedings for brunch Wow, three seedings. And it's not assisted living, it's independent living. Okay, yeah that's different. Yeah, they take care of themselves the apartments, yeah.
Speaker 2One bedroom apartment. Doesn't it look like a hotel room? It's like a fucking.
Speaker 1It's gorgeous $3,500 for a one bedroom. Yeah, that's crazy. And breakfast and dinner they get complimentary. Well, it's included in that. $3,500. The utilities and the two bedroom is $3,500.
Speaker 2The utilities and the two bedroom is $6,500.
Speaker 3Wow, so I worked at the same place that Anthony works at right, but yours was assisted.
Speaker 2But just a different branch. No, mine was both kind of. There was women who were allowed to do whatever they want, leave whenever they want, and then there was the memory care unit.
Speaker 1Yeah, they have medics on site, but they don't have doctors that come in and check on them periodically. It's when they want someone they call.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think that's how it is with ours too, or the one I was at. It was awesome, it was great, but the thing is is like they're paying so much money, right so, and they ask for something they should be able.
Speaker 1You're paying that much money, like if you want french toast. Like, oh, they'll make a few, I know, but at my place.
Speaker 2It was like a different story. It was like huffing and puffing and I don't want to do anything. You know, I mean, but you're getting, you're? They're paying that much money. You want the best, yeah, oh yeah, I mean, it looks great, but you better also take care of them as well. You know, I tried to be as nice and polite as I possibly could.
Pizzle Is The Boss Man
Speaker 1Well, it was fun, it was fun, the residents loved it, yeah, so what did you do? Like, what was your part? I did you know the edible decorations Okay, edible arrangements. Decorations, okay, edible arrangements, edible arrangements. It's not called that anymore, it's called edibles, which is kind of yeah, we think, yeah, I set up the fruit platter, we did pineapples, we put flat pineapple flowers in there and then I did parfaits yogurt, fruit granola yogurt.
Speaker 1And we did that. And then we set up outside up. Well, I didn't set up, his crew did. And Anthony did the pasta table. He did Alfredo and Pomodoro. What's the Pomodoro? It's a chunky tomato sauce with lots of garlic and basil. And he did Jared did the carving station, which was roast beef. They had an omelet station, an egg station, all the sausages, bacon, french toast, chicken and waffles. They had everything, everything and it was very well run.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's not the way that I was at.
Speaker 1Well, this was a Mother's Day brunch. You could bring your family. They could invite their family in. We had a couple of those.
Speaker 2I was there for a couple of events that were similar to that, but yeah, no, it wasn't really like that.
Speaker 1No, it was fun. It was different. It definitely was. I can't even tell you how tired I was this night.
Speaker 3It's a good time.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, that's how it is. You're not used to working a full shift. I was up at 6 o'clock, I know, Got there at 7.30.
Speaker 1We left at 2.30. Right, so yeah, it was a long day.
Speaker 2I didn't know. I thought he went to work later than that, though.
Speaker 1Well, no, he does. He went in yesterday because it was the Mother's Day brunch.
Speaker 2Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 1He wasn't supposed to work. It was his day off.
Speaker 2So you had fun.
Speaker 1Anthony had. That matters. I got to see him in his element, so that was nice. That's awesome.
Speaker 2I didn't know he, because he doesn't talk much about any of that stuff, which is Because I guess he's humble. I didn't know he was doing his thing like that. I sent him a text. I was like I'm proud of you. I heard you're killing it over there, Got some underlings.
Speaker 1And they loved him. They loved him.
Speaker 2Everybody. Why wouldn't they? I know that's.
Speaker 1Anthony, he's a good guy, like you sometimes. Sometimes, yeah, most of the time. Yeah, well, I had my. You have your moments, just like I do.
Speaker 3Yeah, you too. Yes, I do.
Speaker 1You're a good guy.
Speaker 3I'm a good guy, yes, but I have some bad times.
Speaker 1With a voice that's knockout outrageous. Yeah, that's what people don't understand, oh my god, I don't think Kev understands why I heard you do Elvis.
Speaker 3Right.
Speaker 1I thought it was a recording you were singing over.
Speaker 3People say that it's like oh, it sounded like a jukebox.
Speaker 1It was great. And then he says you do Sinatra really well. Yeah, that's where.
Speaker 2I think he would kill it Because, imagine, because you know in New York you're from Brooklyn, right, what part of Brooklyn? I always get confused.
Speaker 1All over Brooklyn Bensonhurst Bay Ridge and then Park Slope and Jersey, do me a favor, move the microphone a little bit out of your face.
Speaker 2No, no, no. This way the way I'm pointing why closer, no, no, no. This way the way I'm pointing why closer, no, not closer, like out of your face. Because there you go, okay, there you go, just because you got to see the beautiful face she used to be a model.
Speaker 3That was you. Oh, my God.
Speaker 2It was a weird situation. I was downstairs in my. I was young, I was in the library. We used to live in this big friggin' house that my mom hates. Oh, okay, she does not want, like look at her face. No, no, no.
Speaker 1It was haunted.
Speaker 2She's seen some shit. You know I haven't seen as much. I've seen a couple of things.
Speaker 1You saw things happen when you got your license, when you were a senior in high school. Everything started. The shit hit the fan.
Speaker 2Yeah, see so she thinks that when all of us grew up at the house Like, only liked kids, so okay, they wanted us out. It started like, like yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, everyone was just that was in the house. She was getting hurt, falling.
Speaker 1Surgery on my foot. I had rods and pins put in it.
Speaker 3What though? What happened?
Speaker 1Peter got out early enough. My older, your older brother, got out early enough. He went away to college and he never came back to the house so he was fine. He was fine, Anthony. Shit started. I don't like to curse, but things started with. Anthony and then Jesse. As soon as he got his permit, he got in an accident. I know with you in the car In the school parking lot Right in the south parking lot.
Speaker 1He he rear-ended somebody. It was a tap, but he still yeah, a tap, there was a tap, that Still, I was like everything was fine, I was killing it with the band.
Speaker 2For me it was great. So she was, and also the school didn't understand how I had so many absences but yet I had a 3.2. I had some A+. I was in music theory, ap theory. They were like what, how is?
Speaker 1this possible. Then he was in Tommy. He played the lead in Tommy.
Speaker 3Yeah, we won't be saying that too.
Speaker 1He played in chess. He was one of the leads in chess I can't believe I won that Best Actor thing and he won the Bucks County Best.
Speaker 2Actor Award. I was so out of my element, kev, because I was like the weed-smoking kid, you know, like the renegade that my girlfriend's parents, like my ex-girlfriends, was like don't hang out with him, he's like the worst and yeah. So like I was known for getting, like I was known for getting in trouble outside of school, but I was also known for just being a like funny, always, yeah, happy guy. So, like my teachers loved me, yeah, so they, even though I missed classes, they would, you know, throw me a little slack, exactly, even for the plays and stuff I didn't really want I had to try out. They came up to me and approached me about it, did they not? They came up to me and said Listen, we know that you can sing. We have no guys that can sing.
Speaker 1He started when he was in kindergarten. They would make him sing and he'd get solos. He was the big one no kindergarten. He was the only one you heard. His voice stood out above everybody else. All through elementary school, the middle school you started with that other girl that was singing. Talking to the microphone, that girl that was singing with the dark hair. She was in the video, not Buble, what's his name?
Speaker 2Bieber. You're talking about Bieber. What was her name? Oh, you're talking about Jenna DeMartini. Yeah, she, so all right. That's crazy too that you said that Our my band, for Pete's sake. So Zach, my drummer, went on to make.
Speaker 1We know this. You talked about this already. Went on to make.
Speaker 2Chitty Bang right. Or Jenna I didn't talk about this went on to be in the soap opera. Yes, that. I remember what's that soap opera called.
Speaker 1There was so many of them All my Children, all my Children, or something.
Speaker 2She had a part in that. She was the girlfriend in the first Justin Bieber girlfriend video. Yeah, she was in that video. Oh, okay, she's gorgeous. Yeah, she was gorgeous. What is it called? Pete winds up going to teach English, or no, that was Jake in Japan. I think Pete's like a surgeon or something. All right, kiss, yeah, wow Kiss, but Eric Luba's killing it Luba is doing great Love, luba, love.
Speaker 3But Eric Luba is killing it. Luba is doing great.
Speaker 2Luba is literally playing around, like travels around to play music. That's what he does. All he does is play music he's played with like really good underground bands Do you talk to him at all, yeah all the time, all the time. He's a really good kid. He's just in Colorado, he lives in Colorado but he is really just playing music all the time. I was honored to be on stage with that kid To say that he was someone that I played with, just like Phoebe Ryan, remember with If the Shoe Fits.
Speaker 1Those were the days. They were good days when we weren't home.
Speaker 3Yeah you go, we had good days when we were all out of the house.
Speaker 2Well, I was also younger then too, so that was also part of it.
Speaker 3I guess yes.
Speaker 2You're saying after high school? Because, yeah, when I went away to college too, I got a call from what. It was like the FBI or something, asking me where I was. And they're like we're at your front door and you were at the restaurant at the time and I was like what, what are you talking about? I'm at college in Connecticut. What's going on? Like well, we can't explain this over the phone, Remember that. I remember that. And then I had to call her. I'm like Ma, there's a detect. I was about to go All right, so this is hilarious.
Speaker 2That day, actually, so I woke up late and I had in one of the one of those tests called like those midterms. It was in my midterm test that day. Okay, I woke up, I had my glasses on the side of the bed, I rolled over and I broke the left side. I remember this like it was yesterday, was so upset, like I'm running late to my midterm, and then, all of a sudden, I got a phone call and the phone call was that and so I no midterm, I missed the midterm. I'm on the phone trying to figure out what's going on. Call her. She calls the FBI agent, they talk. Then my mom calls me and says that yeah, that's like a warrant out for my arrest.
Speaker 1And if you turn yourself in when you come home? Yeah, no-transcript.
Speaker 2And that was life, and that was the story, and now things are kind of going on an even keel.
Speaker 1Okay, he's doing better, he's in recovery, he's clean, except for the weed, and yeah, thank god, it's legal. Yeah, I know the medication that he needs to get off of is the weed is helping him do that.
Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely, and it's got me. I was on like six, yeah, and that's a huge thing too.
Speaker 3It's like she's reading my mind. Yeah, that's what I would have thought too. It's a huge, huge thing.
Speaker 2And I see so many people too Like we have a couple older people around our neighborhood that they're in pain. They don't want to take these painkillers, they know what it does to the kids and stuff. So they're trying to figure out another source and the edibles work, the edibles really do work.
Speaker 1Cbd, what is it called?
Speaker 2CBD.
Speaker 3All that stuff. Calm down, relax.
Speaker 2I know the first time I ever smoked weed was when I stole it from your purse in your closet. I was going I knew something because I knew you smoked. It was sixth grade. I was like, let me, I want to go see. And you had the big ass walk-in closet too. So I would go into a room and it was a big ass room and then to the left was like a makeup room and then it was the bathroom. Then you had a walk-in closet, the whole side of the house was a bedroom.
Speaker 1The bedroom was a suite.
Speaker 2It was fucking ridiculous bro, it was a heater in there.
Speaker 1I loved it.
Speaker 2I don't know why I hate that. She hates the house.
Speaker 1I loved it. I don't know why I hate that. She hates the house. I hated it At the end. I loved it. I fucking loved it. We had a spiral staircase going up to the bedroom.
Speaker 2It was the whole thing. We had a spiral staircase, the basement was all fit.
Speaker 1Tony finished it. We had a bathroom, a full bath. Down there we had a library.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, we had a gym, we had our own.
Speaker 1We had a gym and outside the gym we built, we put a hot tub and had slats that you could open and close so you go out there in a winter cave.
Speaker 3I mean, you told me about the hot tub too.
Speaker 2I didn't even realize of how much of a magnet like. When I brought women over to my house they were like oh my, we had a waterfall on the side of the house.
Speaker 3We had three waterfalls, three waterfalls with two lakes, two ponds With a bridge that went over the ponds.
Speaker 1Was it two ponds?
Speaker 2Yes, one at the top and one at the bottom.
Speaker 1No one, it was two. Yeah, a bridge. One, two, three waterfalls With a bridge going over. One of the rocky waterfalls was crazy Huge fish.
Speaker 2Each one of them were mad expensive, so we thought people were stealing them. Oh wow, and when we asked the guy, the fish guy, and what did he say?
Speaker 1He said that the birds were probably eating them, or?
Speaker 2taking them, wow, and they're worth a shit ton of money A gazebo we had outside, yeah, but you know what?
Haunted House Stories and Supernatural Experiences
Speaker 1I don't care, we're talking about it. I love my dad and her. Somebody hung himself.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, so tell me the backstory of that. Then Okay, In that same house. Then yeah.
Speaker 1All right, peter. When he was had his Chewy my bird up in his room, who is a dog?
Speaker 2bird, by the way. Okay, oh, he thinks he's a dog.
Speaker 1Yes, he walks around the floor and everything he would have up in the morning. One morning he woke up scratches all over his back like fingernails, like a chalkboard. Right right, none of us did it, yeah, and the bird was locked up. He didn't get out of the cage. Where did it come from? Right the heck? That was the first incident, right, yeah? Second, I'm trying to think there was so many things would disappear. Oh, I remember that that was crazy.
Speaker 1Things would actually disappear, and then she would say and then I'd just like close the cabinet or close the refrigerator and just say, please, you gotta help me out here, put it back, no I remember one time you were like stop fucking with me.
Speaker 2What's wrong with me? I was a young kid, I didn't know what was going on.
Speaker 1I remember she time you were like stop fucking around with me. Wow, I was a young kid.
Speaker 2I didn't know what was going on. I remember she had a can opener right.
Speaker 1Oh, that disappeared.
Speaker 2It disappeared and she put it away. I saw her put it away. She was freaking out and this shit just came back.
Speaker 1Yeah, that happened quite a few times. Like what the fuck it happens to me in this room.
Speaker 2Like what the fuck it happens to me in this room and she doesn't believe me, I'll be bugging out for like an hour and a half, yeah but you're very unorganized, so you and I both know yes, you are, I was, yes, you are.
Speaker 1Not anymore, okay, not anymore, I'm trying Once a week. He tells me Ma I can't find it. What'd you do, ghosts? I'm telling you there's no ghosts here, kev, because he'll find it the next day, kev. Yeah, that's what I mean. The ghost is funny. You know what?
Speaker 3You borrowed it for a little bit, you know what I got to agree with him. I had to happen. I had a lot of experiences that you guys are talking about, and with Jesse I would put my Xbox controller right there in front of my TV and then I'll go downstairs and I'll come back upstairs and it's not there and I'm looking everywhere. I'm going crazy. I'm throwing everything everywhere. Kev your brothers were definitely fucking with you the next day.
Speaker 1You find it and it was. Was it back where you put it?
Speaker 3It was right where I put it and I'm like did I pass out? Did I? I didn't do drugs?
Speaker 1What the fuck's going on.
Speaker 2That's crazy.
Speaker 3So I'm just like I had a couple experiences like that Like a pencil. I'm like where the fuck did I just put that pencil? I put it right there. Or my phone, like where's my phone? Coffee.
Speaker 1A container of coffee I keep in the refrigerator. I go back to the coffee. There's no coffee in there, yeah and door and yell at whatever it was, and when I open it up it's right there in front of me. I'm talking not the next day, a few minutes later Now.
Speaker 3that's crazy.
Speaker 1That happened? How many times, jesse? A lot of times. That's crazy. Then we find out. The mailman told me. He says you know, it was a long time that nobody was living here. He says the guy who used to own this house prior to the contractors that bought it after he left, had Bentleys and Rolls Royces parked outside underneath those portable garages. Yeah, he had them parked outside. Well, bentleys and Rolls Royces. He says yeah, he won the lottery and won millions. Oh, bentley's in Rolls Royce. He says yeah, he won the lottery and won millions. And his daughter, apparently, when she was of age and that's where I'm going with this, she was of age, she got into a car accident and he didn't have an umbrella policy on the car for the whole family. Apparently, somebody got hurt. They sued him, he lost everything oh my gosh. And he hung himself in Anthony's bedroom. Damn, and we did not know that when we bought the house.
Speaker 3They don't have to disclose that to realtors unless you ask yeah, just same as a car. When you get a car and it's been in nine accidents, they can say yeah, it's been in the fender bender.
Speaker 1So I found out that from the mailman. And then Melody, aunt Melody, told me Same thing. So, yeah, so I'm so glad I'm out of there. I really am.
Speaker 3Life changed. That makes me believe it more now, because hearing from you and hearing from Jesse like things like that I never knew could.
Speaker 1Oh well, you know what? I had a couple of things when I was young too, so sometimes I think they follow you. They do they have to. I think they follow you. I had an experience. I was probably a teenager we didn't have central air at the time, living with my parents and my sister and we had a huge window unit in the dining room and it was my dining room, living room and a little TV room. So we had the air conditioner on on a summer night and someone had bought my mom, not a trinket, a little tchotchke, a tchotchke, yeah, a tchotchke.
Speaker 1Like a sailor sailor with a big nose and he had the hat on and the whole bit and it just spooked me out.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1Yeah, just the head and it was on the dresser, I slept on the couch. My sister slept on the floor with a blanket and I used to turn that face around.
Speaker 3Yeah, I would do the same thing.
Speaker 1Because I didn't want to see it.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And I had a dream that it was midnight, oh, and I'm sitting in front of a grandfather's clock, okay, and I knew once that clock struck the 12th strike, I was going to die, oh, wow. And just before it hit the last ring, I woke up, literally, really woke up, wow, really woke up, and I see a head, all white, beautiful face, flying like, floating around and I thought I was kind of sleeping. But I did like one of those. Pinch yourself you know, and it was mouthing the words get rid of the doll.
Speaker 3What is the doll? The face, the face, yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 1And I looked over at the dresser where it was, and it wasn't turned around. It was facing me, oh my gosh. And we found out that the doll was made in Norway and Norway was a place where witchcraft was running rampant. Oh yeah, I remember you saying that, yeah, and my father got up out of bed, grabbed a doll and next morning burnt it.
Speaker 3Good.
Speaker 1And that was that. But then you think all the things that happened later on. You know Well we told that story happened later on.
Speaker 2You know who knows. Well, we told that story we call them here on Halloween about how that guy threw the axe at you. Oh, that was.
Speaker 1Italian American Unity Day in Columbus Circle. Yeah, it was Columbo's Joe Columbo.
Speaker 2Yeah, we told it wrong, so she got mad.
Speaker 1The head of the Casa Nostra in New York, right, and he didn't come out yet, but they were doing like a big show. They had a stage set up and my mother's, girlfriend's daughter was much older than me and she took me under her wing. Let's sell the food tickets, nice, okay. So you bought the ticket and then you went to the food tent and you got what you wanted, and while we're there, they would do with the axe going on on stage.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 1And we see this guy running from the police. Yeah, he was supposed to be like an axe thrower, yeah, but he didn't throw it on the stage. He was ready to throw it. He was looking at our counter and he was throwing the ax and a cop got in front and got caught with it.
Speaker 2Was it a terrorist or something.
Speaker 1I don't know what he was. Everything happened so fast. One of us could have gotten hit.
Speaker 3So where was he when he had the ax?
Speaker 1He was standing probably about 25 feet away from us, okay, but looking right at us and a cop got right in front of us and took the blow and did he survive?
Speaker 3I?
Speaker 1have no idea. They took him away in an ambulance, so I don't know. And when did that hit? I have no idea.
Speaker 2See, that's like when I found out. I was like I would have went to the fucking hospital. I was young, though I was probably like 14.
Speaker 1Okay. And she was in her 20s. She's gone now too. Her boyfriend she was living with her boyfriend Right. He got pissed off at her. He picked up a crystal last drink, threw it at her, bang, killed her, killed her. Killed her.
Speaker 2Yeah, no, or a hematoma yeah but that's, it. Let's get away from this.
Speaker 1Let's get away from this.
Speaker 2Yeah, all right. So, cora, I'll go into something that I want to. I think it's a good little thing. It was Mother's Day, yes, and so my mom and dad had like the weirdest love story that I think is very unique, you know. So I always tell it. The details are always off the way I say it, so I want her to explain it, because it is a very cool story.
Speaker 1I would like other people to hear it because it proves how you never know and this is what fucked me up, or how you do know when this was what fucked me up too, or how you do know when it's the right person you know when it's the right one, but you never know when the right one's gonna show up.
Speaker 2That's the.
Speaker 3Thing.
Speaker 2And this story, like, really proves it. And it fucked with me for a long time because I was in a relationship when I like a long-term relationship, when I really started understanding the story that she's about to tell. Okay, and it messed me up. I'll tell you why in a second.
Speaker 1Even my sister. My sister thought that the knight on the white horse was going to come and sweep her off her feet. Wow, because it's what. So tell the story.
Speaker 3He wasn't on the white horse.
Chance Encounter On The B Train
Speaker 1He was on the B train. Yeah, okay, he wasn't on. I used to work at Rolls Royce Arrow Engines Incorporated when I was 18 years old you were one of the first women to work on Wall Street.
Speaker 2I'm not talking about Wall Street.
Speaker 1I wasn't one of the first, but you were one of the first of many yeah, it got very. A lot of women came after me, but I wasn't the first or one of the first.
Speaker 3What?
Speaker 1I was in the group of the well, whatever, One of the originals yes, so I used to ride the B train to work, okay, and every day I would see this guy on the train and he'd stand. I used to draw a lot.
Speaker 2She's an amazing artist, I'd carry my sketch pad with me. I'm going to put some pictures up.
Speaker 1I would draw and I'd sit there and I used to notice him on the train. He had this beautiful mop of hair.
Speaker 2Yeah, he looked like a terrorist.
Speaker 1Yeah, he looked like today's terrorist. I thought he was an Arab.
Speaker 3That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1I thought he was a terrorist and, before I know it, like a couple of weeks go by and he's holding on to the strap hanging, yeah, and he's leaning over looking what I'm doing. Right Never said a word to me. Right Never talked to me. This went on for about six years. Towards the end of those six years, I didn't see him for a while and I wonder what the hell happened to him. You know, because when you see somebody every single day and you know that this person is interested, right and you at the time, were in a relationship too.
Speaker 2Yes, I was in a relationship. You were engaged? I think no.
Speaker 1I wasn't engaged. No, I was pre-engaged, pre-engaged, okay.
Speaker 2Fucking pre-engaged. It was a little tiny friggin' diamond thing.
Speaker 3Okay, so it was a thing I was living with somebody.
Speaker 1It was good, you didn't commit to that no, never committed to anything but listen and I didn't see him for a long time. And then I get on the train with Donna. I was with Donna. We're waiting on 42nd Street. Oh, this was when I was working for Metcalfe, an employment agency. This is after Rolls-Royce. Okay, the train pulls into the station Not the train I was going to get on, but I'm sorry. It was pulling out of the station. And while it was pulling out, in the window of one of the doors, I see Tony's face, oh wow, and his eyes were just like magnets. Yeah, on me. While the train is moving, his head is moving. And I says to my girlfriend I'm going to marry that guy, I'm going to marry him. And she, yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, of course she did. Well, two weeks later I had seen him in his car driving. He was driving a Datsun 280Z.
Speaker 3Okay.
Speaker 2The Datsun.
Speaker 1And he stopped the car and asked me if I wanted a ride. No, no, no, no. Next time I see him, I was was getting off the train. I was waiting for my girlfriend to get off the train and he did to stop. I get off. That he got off. That he didn't live anywhere near me, he lived on 18th street and I'm in Bensonhurst. He gets off the train and he comes over and he says are you waiting for me? I said no, I you waiting for me? I said no, gangster, I'm waiting for my girlfriend, are you waiting for me?
Speaker 1Come on, and the interest was there, and two weeks later, we were married, and then Jesse pops out.
Speaker 2Then Peter and Anthony, that'd be me. But two weeks later we were married and they've been married for how long?
Speaker 345 years, that's crazy when it happens like that, like two weeks later, like that has happened to me, Like two weeks later I find a great girl and then she just doesn't have her mind set up.
Speaker 2Yeah, but see, that's the thing I'm talking about how they stayed together for that long.
Speaker 3But you know why? Because of him.
Speaker 2I know Because there was a connection there.
Speaker 3You knew everything, but it was because of him. Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1And the charisma yeah. For example, there was a grocery store that he worked at on 79th.
Speaker 2Street. This is the story I always get confused with 17th.
Speaker 3Avenue.
Speaker 1He worked there. The guy's name was Max, who ran the store. Oh, okay, and Tony saw me get off the train and this is while we were talking. You know it wasn't like we weren't dating or anything, it was pouring rain. He sees me get off the train and he grabs one of the umbrellas from the fruit stand these huge umbrellas.
Speaker 1And walked me over to the store so I wouldn't get wet and we waited underneath the awning. He did things like that. He would pick me up with teddy bears and roses in the car, that's my man. I'd get home at 3 o'clock in the morning with my girlfriend. We went out dancing or whatever, and it's 7 o'clock or 7.30. He's outside waiting to drive me to work. See, yeah, so it was. Yeah, it was fast.
Speaker 3And you know what it is too. When you're right by him and you actually finally see him again, you get butterflies and you're like, oh my gosh, you know, yeah, and that's what they always said to me they're like when you're with someone when you know you know, yeah, and I kind of understand it. You know, I thought I knew a couple times and you know what it doesn't have to be one person when you know it could be a couple of girls.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, it could be Absolutely A couple of guys.
Speaker 3A couple of guys. Yeah, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1Yeah, it could be no it can't just be one.
Speaker 3Think about the world. There's a lot of people in this world.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I think, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3Yeah, I think it is. There's a couple of those.
Speaker 2You're right. I do think that there are a couple different options.
Speaker 1You gotta see what works for you.
Speaker 2Well then I'm gonna go into something crazy, but the thing is why I what fucked me up is the fact that you never know, I could be with a girl for six years and she could run into some guy on the train that looks like a terrorist.
Speaker 1Yeah, I had no idea he was Italian.
Speaker 2Yeah, if you look at the, picture you look straight like you'd be waiting in the 7-11 parking lot for 7 o'clock in the morning waiting for a job.
Speaker 3Wow.
Speaker 2Oh, in a muster zone? Yeah, you're always in the morning. They're all waiting for someone to say, hey, muster zone. Yeah, you know, I always see him in the morning and I'll wait for someone to say hey, six of you, no, but he was driving a 280Z.
Speaker 1I know he was not waiting in a muster zone, but he looked like it. He had hair. He had the most gorgeous hair.
Speaker 2See, but that's what she loves long hair. I still do so now here you and Kev can talk, because my mom's obsessed with Triple H.
Speaker 1Now, he's bald though.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, it bothers me too Both of you.
Speaker 1I'm bald. Wait, wait, wait. When he used to come out and stand up on the corner and do and spit the water out. And he wore those leather briefs.
Speaker 3Well, that's what you're looking at. I'm looking up.
Speaker 2That's too little.
Speaker 1I was standing right in front of him. Oh, bro, there was one part, oh, not WrestleMania.
Speaker 3We had four tickets. Yeah, you were there.
Speaker 1When we had money, then my mom, I had second row seats by the ring but on the other side of where the cameras are.
Speaker 2Oh wow, the cameras are facing the other side and.
Speaker 1I was in the second row. Yeah, and Triple H tore his.
Speaker 2ACL or something. No, but hold on.
Speaker 1So me and my brother, me, and Anthony, right, it was me and Anthony, you, Anthony, peter me.
Speaker 2Okay, so we're like we're going to try going somewhere else.
Speaker 1To get closer to the ring.
The Cost Of Living 40 Yrs Ago
Speaker 2But we were already really close. But my mom goes we were literally right near the entrance of where people walk out on the side and she goes. I have a feeling that he's coming out tonight and that he's coming on the side. I'm staying here and we're like now you're crazy.
Speaker 1So what they did was because there were two of them Anthony and Jesse were pretty young at the time they would switch seats. One of them would come like after every match they'd switch over.
Speaker 2So the two seats in the back. Oh yeah, that's what it was. And, bro, we see Triple H when we're gone running past my mom. No, he didn't run past my mom, he sat next to me.
Speaker 3He grabs the chair, the empty chair next to my mom. He sat right next to you I had kids in front of me.
Speaker 2Wait wait wait, hold on, he sat next to you.
Speaker 1He sat down. Well, two seats away there was nobody there. People were all gathering around the ring. There was a kid there and I had said to them if Triple H is next to me, I'm just going to jump him.
Speaker 3Of course, I'm going to jump him, jump his bones. She don't say that.
Speaker 1Next, thing I know, the chair next to me gets lifted up.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1And he runs to the ring. I didn't even know he was there. Yeah, you know what? I didn't even know he was there.
Speaker 3Yeah, you know what? Oh, I didn't even know.
Speaker 1I had no idea. I was so upset with myself.
Speaker 3Don't be upset, though, because you know what. That's the normal thing. That's why they do that, because they don't want you to know, and then they'll be wearing a jacket, and then they'll take it off, but, like Triple H, he, probably that's what you're right.
Speaker 2You're right. That's when he came back.
Speaker 1Yes, and I even had the Harley Davidson hat that he used to wear backwards. Yeah, you go, I got one and his hair.
Speaker 2The other thing his hair is.
Speaker 3he still has his hairline, he's not going bald. So I think maybe in the future he will grow it out.
Speaker 1No, because he had hair plugs put in. Oh, that's why Later on, before he started retiring with Stephanie, after they had a couple of kids, he had hair plugs put in. You could see when he started sweating they were little dots and I guess the hair plugs didn't work anymore.
Speaker 3So we shaved his head.
Speaker 1Wow, he still looks great though.
Speaker 2He's got a body on him. Once I saw some pictures behind me, I was like, yeah, this has got to come off.
Speaker 1Is it hot in here? Is it me? No, it's just you. You had to see me yesterday.
Speaker 2You know me, I'm usually the one that's sweating.
Speaker 1Oh no, I'm dripping Well. I'm sorry, it's just this weather messing with my arm, not looking forward to the summer at all.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm not either. I wish I could go to a colder environment. I would love to be cold all the time.
Speaker 1I go to Alaska and a half years. You can always put on more clothes you can't take off Right. Daddy's got a sweatshirt and a sweater on top of the sweatshirt and sitting in the living room.
Speaker 3Yeah, doesn't make sense. I'm wearing a sweatshirt right now and you're not warm. I'm fine, I'm like you know, I'm me before.
Speaker 2I know that we're running a little bit. We're going to be stopping soon, but I want to ask you how?
Speaker 1because Excuse me.
Speaker 2How much was rent when you were my age?
Speaker 1There you go, my first apartment I lived in, not a basement apartment, it was a walk-in. The garage was right next door to where my living room was. I was paying $190 a month and all my utilities, aside from my phone and my TV, were included $190, was it $190? Oh, $160 a month. Month, I'm sorry, it was $160. And then when I married dad, we lived on 21st street by Greenwood Cemetery and we were on the third floor and the rent was $190 a month, a two bedroom, really.
Speaker 2And what was minimum wage back?
Speaker 3then, $8 maybe they.
Speaker 2And what was minimum wage back then? Eight dollars, maybe? Yo, they didn't raise minimum wage. Yes, that's right, they didn't raise. I was watching something about this.
Speaker 3They haven't.
Speaker 2There was a period of time where they didn't raise minimum wage.
Speaker 1Well, you figure in a 40 hour work week at eight dollars an hour.
Speaker 2You're good with math. Eight times 40. Eight, 60, 24, 30, $320 a week, that's awful A week.
Speaker 1Imagine I'm rich, that's rich, but you got to take out taxes. I don't care. And then transportation into the city we would do that, and food, okay, exactly. So you're left maybe with $100 a week, if that much. So you want to go to the disco, you want to go to clubbing?
Speaker 2$100 a week. You're talking about leftover, yeah, but your rent is only $190 a month, okay, but you figure on how much you're spending.
Speaker 1I had a baby too. I know that. I understand that.
Speaker 2Alright Brandon oh my god please $30-something hundred For a house he's renting for a fucking two-bedroom.
Speaker 3No four bedrooms. Four bedrooms 3,200.
Speaker 2Four bedrooms 3,200, huh.
Speaker 1A month, but it's a house.
Speaker 3Yeah, you can't afford Buying a house now. It's impossible. That's what.
Speaker 1I'm saying it's ridiculous.
Speaker 3Not here anyway. Buying a house now it's impossible. That's what I'm saying. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1Not here anyway, if you go down south, maybe Midwest, maybe. All right, arielle is in LA and she's paying $2,000 a month for a studio apartment. I believe it, yeah, and she has to pay everything with it.
Speaker 2Oh, she's killing it War the sewer everything, she's doing it, she's doing everything. She's doing her thing.
Speaker 1She's doing her thing. She's got a couple of jobs. She's been on some auditions.
Speaker 2Yeah, I saw a couple of headshots on Facebook.
Speaker 1So yeah, just keep your fingers crossed, because she's good, she looks just like she has an amazing voice.
Speaker 2You go on my page. She sang one of my songs for me.
Speaker 1She's looking to get into the movies or something.
Speaker 3I told her do the commercials.
Speaker 1Everybody, come on like a good neighbor, stay from the stairs.
Speaker 2But the thing is, though, I don't think she wants to do commercials.
Speaker 1Commercials. You get into SAG For some reason. No, but all the stars are doing them now I know you have to, that's how I feel All the stars are doing them now.
Speaker 2Anything and it's a paycheck, fuck it.
Speaker 3So every time it plays, then you're just like ooh, Not many people would die, even if, it's 10 cents a time. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1Different channels, whatever stations?
Speaker 2Absolutely, that's what happens with Justin. You always get like a little check. You know you'll never know when you're going to get money in the mail. Well, you know.
Speaker 1Cindy, over here, yeah, over here, yeah, my friend Cindy, she, her father, oh God, rodriguez, tito, tito. Tito Rodriguez was a big orchestra guy, right, right, and she, when she was younger, would sing and she made an album. Oh, wow, yes, and the father's music is still being played on the Spanish station.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, I remember she was talking about that and she gets a residual check.
Speaker 1Wow, that's awesome. She gets checks for herself and for her dad. That's gone now.
Speaker 3Right right.
Speaker 1And that's years ago.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's not true, because I was looking into it because I put up a Shawn Mendes cover like a while ago. Shawn Mendes is a singer. I don't know if you know who he is, do you?
Speaker 1know who he is? Yeah, I've heard of them.
Speaker 2Well, I did a cover of it and I put it on YouTube and it was getting actually a decent amount of views. But three days later, boom, I took it down and I didn't understand, because I always see people cover songs on YouTube. Of course, yeah, and yeah, you have to pay.
Speaker 1You have to get permission.
Speaker 2No, yeah, no. They have these things, these sites that are coming out, these new things where artists will sign up, because there's not a lot of ways for artists to make money anymore.
Speaker 1Of course, yeah, so that's the way is through playing at restaurants, because restaurants like Will was saying when we had him on, if we had our own you have to pay BMI for playing any type of song in your restaurant and then BMI gets to keep 90% of the money and the other 10% goes to the artist.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's really crazy, it's absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1Did you hear the finished? Yeah, we played it on the show.
Speaker 3My favorite. We played it on the show.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's not finished, but it's close to finished.
Speaker 1Which one are we talking about Under the Moonlight right?
Speaker 3Oh no you're talking about Billie Jean. Oh, yeah, yeah, because we covered Billie Jean.
Speaker 2Yeah, that was fire. That sounds really good.
Speaker 1And I'm waiting for the next one.
Speaker 2Yeah, see, that's Fridays. You know my thing. I'm trying to get him on here. It's just that he's a busy man, yeah.
Speaker 1He's really good at what he does too. I know he really is. He's fucking out of his mind like me.
Speaker 2There you go, but he's like a mentor to me. Yeah exactly Like when you're ready, the teacher will appear, type shit. That was the kind of thing. And the thing with him was he was in my life the whole time. And I didn't realize like damn, this is the guy I should be messing with.
Speaker 2The whole time and he is in recovery, you know, knows what it's like to be going through what I'm going through. Right Is like very sympathetic towards all the stuff and he knows me very well. We were stayed. There's this certain thing like when you go through crises or something with something, go through like emotional moments.
Speaker 1Somebody's aware of it? No, together yeah.
Speaker 2Like, say, near death, like you guys were in like an earthquake together or something happened.
Speaker 3Yeah, you guys were in like an earthquake together, or something happened, or yeah.
Speaker 2So you were in a jail cell alone, for, like me and justin spent a lot of time together in a building for three months and we saw each other every day.
Speaker 2We ate breakfast, lunch and dinner together. Yeah, you know, I knew everything about him. Yeah, so it was a deeper relationship, so that kind of bond. It's like we feel like we, no matter what, what we didn't even him we'll fight, like, like, like argue, but it's like the next day it's like it's all right, it's, oh, it's what it was.
Speaker 2You know, we never hold grudges. It's like it's. We've been through that already. We've had to sit on our hands across from each other and tell each other how we feel about them. And if we didn't tell, like they could tell when you're lying, they would tell your PO and your PO would come but he was the only one that was there. Like he can leave if he wanted to. He was doing this just because he knew he needed to get his life straight. So that's why I respected him so much for that. That's awesome. His life straight, so that's like I respected him so much for that. That's awesome. And then how I find out, like how I wind up years later opening for his fucking band that he was.
Speaker 2How crazy is that? So we get an offer, a reunion show, yeah, and they were like all right. Yeah, like cool, it's a big thing at Wonder Bar. Who are we opening for? Right Borealis? I'm like wait that the fuck. I was like Justin, did you do anything to get me the show? He's like I had no idea. He's like I'm not even playing it. He goes. I didn't even want to do that one, he goes. We already had a reunion show at the Stone Pony. It sold out.
Speaker 3He goes.
Speaker 2I thought that was just so how the world works and I think that's a revolving door. Yeah, and I wrote something at the end of this book. I found another great author I was telling you about and he mixes sci-fi with like other murder mysteries and stuff. But at the end of this book you find out that the whole universe, what we see is literally Are you going to get deep now?
Speaker 1She hates when I do this.
Speaker 2I don't like, because you know he can talk like he was basically saying that we no longer you know what you need to do?
Speaker 1You need to have a podcast by myself. Strictly, no, strictly for the stuff that you read. I know.
Speaker 3That's what you do.
Speaker 1Instead of talking about, hey, let me tell you this, that and the other thing. No, talk about what you love.
Speaker 2My best critic right here.
Speaker 1Talk about what you love, Like the last the vlog. Yeah, you hated that huh, I didn't hate it, I just thought you didn't talk about anything. That was anything that's gonna grab anybody what I loved it.
Speaker 2I'm sorry, I don't care, I'm gonna do me.
Speaker 1I'm gonna try it and do it and fuck everybody. No, but that's okay, but I think that's what you should do. You should no.
Speaker 2I really want to.
Speaker 1That's great team up with somebody that's into the stuff that you're in. No.
Speaker 2I could go off by myself with Kevin fuck it.
Celebrating Mothers and Parents
Speaker 1Books, movies music Team up with somebody who's going to actually listen to you and enjoy conversing with you. Notice, I don't say what's the other one. They say let's have a powwow no conversation. But they say it different Convo Conversate. Let's sit and A powwow no conversation, but they say it different Convo, convo.
Speaker 3Conversate. Let's sit and converse, but they don't say that.
Speaker 1They say conversate. Look in the dictionary. They added that now and that's not. Well, yeah, it's a slang dictionary, I know, but it's not that's not the word.
Speaker 2What is that called the Urban?
Speaker 1Dictionary. That's not the word, it's converse, have a conversation. But anyway, okay, oh thanks for the fucking tidbits. Yeah Well, tidbits and items are my thing.
Speaker 2Well, I just wanted everybody to meet the woman behind the scene.
Speaker 1I made him. Yeah, she made me Well, with some help from Tony. There you go. Yes, she did.
Speaker 2She has seen me through the ups and downs and has never left my side, and she's the reason that this is all able to happen.
Speaker 1We are we are all, we are all backing this. I know I love you.
Speaker 2I love you too.
Speaker 1Happy, belated Mother's Day to all you moms out there.
Speaker 2Happy belated Mother's Day to all the moms, out moms, and even the single dads that are raising their children.
Speaker 1Yeah, God bless them.
Speaker 2You also need to have a happy parents' day. Yes, I agree with that. Because there are a couple, I know. A shout out to Brian too, if he ever listens on.
Speaker 1And what about the moms that aren't all doing it on their own?
Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely they double kudos. It's on both sides Double kudos to both of them.
Speaker 3Shout out to my mom I love you. Yeah, yeah, shout out to your mom Happy.
Speaker 2Mother's Day and we will catch you on the flip side. You, son of a bitch, I love it.
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