Imagine finding serenity amid chaos with just the reverberation of a gong. This episode of Jamie Vaughn's podcast is a deep dive into the world of sound baths, where the transformative power of sound waves brings healing and peace, especially to those affected by cancer and PTSD. We're privileged to be joined by Wyatt Smith, sound bath practitioner who shares his journey and the impactful stories of those he has guided through sound meditation. Wyatt’s narrative is a story of passion and purpose, detailing his evolution from a gong master to an inspiring mentor within the cancer community. His dedication resonates as we explore how sound bath meditation can silence the clamor of the mind, ushering in a profound state of Zen.
Wyatt shares the philosophy of patience in finding the right healer and the importance of giving sound therapy sessions a chance to work their magic. Closing the episode, we're treated to the enveloping sound of his gong, a live demonstration of this ancient practice's therapeutic potential.
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Imagine finding serenity amid chaos with just the reverberation of a gong. This episode of Jamie Vaughn's podcast is a deep dive into the world of sound baths, where the transformative power of sound waves brings healing and peace, especially to those affected by cancer and PTSD. We're privileged to be joined by Wyatt Smith, sound bath practitioner who shares his journey and the impactful stories of those he has guided through sound meditation. Wyatt’s narrative is a story of passion and purpose, detailing his evolution from a gong master to an inspiring mentor within the cancer community. His dedication resonates as we explore how sound bath meditation can silence the clamor of the mind, ushering in a profound state of Zen.
Wyatt shares the philosophy of patience in finding the right healer and the importance of giving sound therapy sessions a chance to work their magic. Closing the episode, we're treated to the enveloping sound of his gong, a live demonstration of this ancient practice's therapeutic potential.
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I am not a doctor and not all information in this podcast comes from qualified healthcare providers, therefore may not constitute medical advice. For personalized medical advice, you should reach out to one of the qualified healthcare providers interviewed on this podcast and/or seek medical advice from your own providers .
Speaker 1:
Welcome to season two of Test those Breasts podcast. I am your host, Jamie Vaughan. I am really excited to continue this journey and mission into 2024 to help shorten the overwhelming learning curve for those who are newly diagnosed, or yet to be diagnosed, with breast cancer. It has been such an honor and a privilege to be able to connect and interview many survivors, thrivers, caregivers, oncologists, surgeons, nurses, therapists, advocates and more, in order to provide much needed holistic guidance for our breast cancer community. Breast cancer has become such an epidemic, so the more empowered we are, the better. By listening, rating, reviewing and sharing this podcast, it truly does help bring in more listeners from all over the world. I appreciate your help in spreading this knowledge. My episodes are released weekly on Apple, Spotify and other platforms and YouTube. Now let's listen to this next episode of Test those Breasts. Well, welcome back, friends, to this episode of season two of Test those Breasts. I am your host, Jamie Vaughan, and today I am so honored and excited and giddy and all the things to have my friend, Wyatt Smith on my show.
Speaker 1:
Wyatt Smith is a sound bath practitioner and about 15 years ago, Wyatt the visionary behind sound bath by Wyatt embarked on a transformative journey that would lead him to become a seasoned sound bath practitioner and gong master. It all began with a profound moment of bliss during a sound bath, a moment when the world felt perfectly aligned. Inspired by this experience, Wyatt felt compelled to learn the art of playing the gong and facilitating gong baths. Wyatt's dedication to his craft is evident in more than 500 sound baths he has performed for over 15,000 people. Beyond his own practice, he has extended his expertise by mentoring other sound bath practitioners. Recognizing his extensive experience, Wyatt's gong master bestowed upon him the title of a qualified gong master, a testament to his commitment and mastery in the art. Wyatt's dedication extends beyond his practice as he recognizes the healing potential of sound baths for those recovering from life's ailments. As part of his Karma project for the past 15 months, Wyatt has generously offered his sound bath experience to the cancer community clubhouse survivors as a tribute to a dear friend lost to cancer. The project is a heartfelt endeavor reflecting Wyatt's commitment to sharing the healing power of sound with the community. In essence, Wyatt Smith's practice is about creating a harmonious space for self-discovery and inner healing. The term sound bath practitioner encapsulates his commitment to facilitating an environment where individuals tap into their inherent healing abilities, guided by the therapeutic power of sound.
Speaker 1:
Well, welcome, Wyatt. I am so excited you're here. The reason I wanted you on this show is because I actually have experienced your sound baths at cancer community clubhouse and you know, it's really funny because I had been invited to your sound baths quite a few times by Natalie Stevenson and also Tiffany Johnson and my friend Paula Berry, and I just never wet. I was like, okay, yeah, whatever, I didn't even know what it was and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was off doing my own whole thing.
Speaker 1:
Well, one day I decided to go with my friend Paula and her husband, and then Tiffany and Lisa were there and I just remember thinking to myself, why in the heck have I never done this before? Why have I never even experienced this? It was the most amazing feeling to me and I have gone two other times since Last night. I had to miss I think you had when yesterday, I think. Right, yeah, and I missed it because I went to an 80s concert show and I mean like I needed to go to that. Okay, but I will say that I'm dedicated to coming every month and I love the fact that you donate your time and expertise in your practice to Cancer Community Clubhouse Welcome, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2:
I'm doing very well and, yes, thank you so much for asking me to be on your podcast. I did have a sound bath last night, or a sound bath meditation, as I'm learning more about my craft is. What is that mean? What is a sound bath? What is a sound meditation? Over my 15 years of doing this, obviously my perception has changed of what a sound bath or a sound healer is, and I've come to the conclusion that I'm a sound bath practitioner. I have the set and the setting for the participants to participate in their own healing, which is your mind, body and soul.
Speaker 2:
What my students do for you is the overtones allow you to reach that transcendental meditative state where the monkey chatter is quieted for that moment, because it's like our mind is always going a thousand miles an hour and if you can focus on something else, like the sounds of a gong or a crystal bowl or the chimes, it's going to take you out of yourself and you're going to reach that spot. And the funny thing about that spot is when she say oh, I'm there, guess what? You're no longer there because your mind is thinking about that spot. So just continue to come and continue to let go. And what I found what we were talking about Natalie is just a few minutes ago. Last night she was saying how in the beginning it's like she goes. I had a hard time focusing on the sounds and now, after a year, she goes. You start playing and I immediately drop into that zone of Zen or chill space or everything is just okay in the world, like my experience was. So it's just interesting how everybody's journey with a sound meditation changes as well.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, and I really like with my experience with you, I like that you remind us that, hey, sometimes those thoughts will come into you, because it's really almost impossible to stop thinking about stuff.
Speaker 1:
Because we're kind of like my therapist, eddie Enever, says he's from Australia, he always says that we are in the business of busyness and so we have so much going on in our heads all the time. And much like when I'm in my yoga class, the yoga instructor says remember that when you are chilling, that thoughts will come into your mind. Let it acknowledge it and then let it go on its merry way and then, until you remind yourself, hey, I don't need to be thinking about what I'm going to pick up for dinner tonight, I don't need to be thinking about what the kids are going to do, just all the things right. So I just like the fact that you remind us and that's really cool. But I wanted to ask you how you had a transformative moment at some point that got you really thinking, wow, this is really cool. Can you walk us through back in how you got involved, what it took to get your professional practitioner life to Ireland for there's a license, who your mentor was and all the things?
Speaker 2:
Yes, of course. So about 15 years ago, july, I went to a sound batch. My friend was a professor of chemistry at UNR and he knew this lady, who was a professor of marketing at UNR, was doing a sound batch. I'm like what's that? We went to the organic bed store, where it used to be, off Wells Avenue, and we laid down and there was these big gongs everywhere and this lady was running around and she had this purple streak of her hair and I'm like, wow, okay, let's see what happens. I had that moment of like my moment of bliss, where everything was just okay in the world, perfectly aligned, as one would say. It only lasted for a minute, that's what's second, but there's something to that and I was like wow. So I asked my friend to introduce me to her and he said oh, this is my friend Wyatt, and I'm like I want to learn to do this. How do you do this? And she said I'm having a class two weeks later. So I signed up with her class and 15 years later, here I am.
Speaker 2:
Her name is Judy Strauss. She got her Gong master. There's not a certified board or a licensing committee, because anybody could issue a certificate. That said oh, you're now a certified sound healer. It just didn't happen in a week or a weekend.
Speaker 2:
This is over years of experience and how many sound vests or sound meditations I've completed, how many people I've mentored. And what do people get out of my sound vests? Is my rhythm right? Is my modulation's right? How are my overtones? It's like all these other factors and just not. Oh, you hit the gong a couple times that you're certified, so it's hard to say what. But what I finally asked her before she passed away a few years ago, was am I ready? She's like you're doing job best, right. I'm like, yes, she was. Are you mentoring people? I'm like, yes, she was. Are people telling you about their experiences? And did they ever cry to you? I'm like, many times she goes, you're on the right path. Just keep learning, keep getting more instruments.
Speaker 2:
And education is like the vitalness of life. And lately I've run across a man called Alexander Thanos who is much smarter than me four Master's degrees in music ethicology and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of the research this man has done and what he's said and what I say are basically the same, except I say it on a first grade level and he's like on the four Master's degree level. So it's just interesting that, oh, even after all this time, I'm still learning new ways to express how to experience a sound meditation. It's all about his words judicious listening, listening to the overtones, listening to the modulation and being open to allowing the sounds into your mind and allowing the sounds to remove, or I don't know how that exactly works, but to block out that monkey chatter, that, oh, I have to go pay the rent, I have to go grocery stores, all that stuff was 10,000 thoughts that happened to your mind. The sounds could help your mind stop thinking of those thoughts by focusing and attention on the sounds of my dog sparking Lady.
Speaker 1:
That's okay.
Speaker 2:
We're all friends here. She has nice sounds too.
Speaker 1:
Yes, yeah, I have my puppy sitting next to me and she's actually being good in her little crate and the big ones being good. I like that. I never realized that. So, being a breast cancer survivor and going through all the things the chemo, the mental and just the emotional chatter, if you will I'm really intrigued about why people actually attend a sound bath for healing purposes, Because you do this for Cancer Community Clubhouse once a month and we know that people love it because they keep coming back. What is it about a sound bath that can be so soothing and healthy for a cancer patient and even a cancer survivor like me?
Speaker 2:
So I think, as a sound bath practitioner, I create that experience through the vibrations and frequencies that provide the space and the tools for the participants, for the cancer survivors, for other sound bath meditators that come to embark on their own unique journey, because the healing is kind of the lean from within, it's not coming from me. I just provide the set and the tools, like the gong, for example, to let the person connect to the harmonious sounds and you allow your own internal energies to realign and find the balance.
Speaker 1:
Okay, Well, it's helped with me. We know that after someone is cancer-free, that's not the end of the journey. There's all kinds of things that happen and feelings that happen and emotional things that happen, PTSD, I mean. I know I went through PTSD literally one year ago. I was cancer-free. You would think that I would be all good and ready to rock the world and get back to normal and things like that, and apparently word out on the street, that's not how it happens.
Speaker 1:
I couldn't figure out why I was so. I was so depressed, Like I was super depressed. I just had my a couple of major surgeries. I was feeling like I had no significance, no purpose or anything. And at some point in time I recognized that I'd been going to therapy. My husband and I have been going to therapy because he wasn't understanding what I was going through. And at some point between the time that I was going through that and the time I finally recognized why I was feeling that way and learned more about what cancer patients go through. That's where the podcast was born, Because now I have a purpose. Right, I've got I have. I do have a purpose.
Speaker 1:
I provide much needed education to in shortening the learning curve for a lot of people whether it has to do with treatment, and I pull in professionals such as yourself to kind of provide that holistic healing ideas that might work. Like some people say, oh yeah, go to meditation. Well, it's really hard to sit on your couch and put it up on the TV and listen to meditation, Although I did do that, like I tried all the things. Yoga, and I love yoga. I never liked yoga before. I love yoga now, but incorporating these kinds of therapies to the regiment of your journey, if you will, has become really intriguing for me and that's why I wanted to have you on the show. I want people to understand that there are different modalities that can help out with their own healing. So, with that, those anecdotal stories, what kind of anecdotal stories can you share with us that tell you that these sound-dives are effective for people like me and Natalie and Tiffany and others like you.
Speaker 2:
I met a lady last night, her first sound meditation ever. I'll use her first name, oli Alley. So he came up to me afterwards and said whoa, a little more in depth. She was laying right in front of the crystal bowls, she was laid back, her hair was all laid out, nice, she looked like an angel laying there. It was just like so sweet and first time or, as I'm always a little nervous because I'm not sure what they're going to experience, are they going to not have a good? Are they going to hate this or what is going to happen.
Speaker 2:
And so I watched the newbies, I watched them during my sound meditation to see are they squirming? Are they feeling uncomfortable? What can I do? Could I lower my volume a little bit to make them a little more comfortable? Because sometimes the scounds can get loud and I know it's only a sound, but are my can say, oh, that's just scary sound to me. Your mind decided it. The sound did not decide that. So that's always kind of interesting to me as well.
Speaker 2:
But she came up to me afterwards and she's like can I ask you if I did this right? I'm like there is no right or wrong in a sound meditation. It's just about how is it making you feel? Well, once she started she goes I felt like I'd melted into the floor and she was. My whole body just felt like this vibration over it. I'm like, well, you were right next to the bowl, the head was within six inches Okay, six inches, whatever that is and the vibrations were just entering through your body. She goes. I just fell at peace. She was. I haven't felt at peace in so long. Sorry, that makes me so happy. I know I'm crying. I just have some tears in my eyes.
Speaker 1:
And she started crying, and then I started crying.
Speaker 2:
It's very touching to me when somebody can come up to express their feelings from what I just did to them for an hour. Maybe I shouldn't cry about it, but it's just makes me so totally gratitude that what I'm able to do or facilitate not what I do, excuse me what I facilitate for people helps them feel better, even if it is for that hour. Yeah, so the second Saturday of every month is my favorite Saturday of every month, because I get to go hang out with people like you and Natalie and Lisa and Michelle and Ally and Nancy and Barb and Ally. It's just like all these beautiful souls. Oh, and I met a man that's like Paul, older gentleman, older than me. I think he absolutely enjoyed it as well. It's just like this is just an experience that, if you're open-minded enough to come try it you're going to you may experience a little piece of bliss.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I'd like to bring my husband. I've actually told him because my husband I don't know. He just cannot sit still. It is very rare when he actually sits still for more than five minutes. Then I told him, I said you need to come with me just even once. Just come with me and check it out. He actually, during COVID, started doing yoga and he still, to this day, goes upstairs to his Zen room that he put together.
Speaker 1:
And he does yoga, so I know that he would, and he loves massages. He goes for massages like I don't know, three, four times a month and he loves them. He loves the hot tub, things like that, so I just know that he would love a sound bath. You just brought up something about open-mindedness, so why do people need to have an open mind when attending these experiences and why is it important to let go of any preconceived ideas about what they've heard or learned or whatever about sound bath?
Speaker 2:
So I was like, say, open-mindedness, that's your requirement for a sound meditation. The problem is, being open-minded is not the easiest thing to be because, like you just said, we all have our preconceived notions. Funny story last night a man of one of the survivors was coming with his wife and he's like well, I was going to bring my bathing suit because this is the bath, but I didn't know what to expect. So, the right track, you're on the right track. You have a sense of humor, which is great. Yeah, exactly, I used to start it as you're going to come to a sound bath, but you won't get wet, don't worry. So back to open-mindedness.
Speaker 1:
Wait wait, wait. Let me stop you right there. That is not true. One time you did such a cool thing with the lavender.
Speaker 2:
Okay, you will get a little wet.
Speaker 1:
I know, no, I'm just kidding, but I mean that literally was my favorite part so far of what you did Because that was the coolest thing ever. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but we were talking about interrupting, but I had to tell you that, that that was my favorite part and I want you to do that again. So open-mindedness, thank you.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's just I don't know how to describe open-mindedness because I think it's going to be. Open-mindedness means many different things for many different people, because we're all individuals. We all have our own preconceived notions about stuff. So, yeah, if you could just be open-minded, whatever that means for you, you're going to have a much better experience. And again, it's all about the sedimentation is an active experience. You're not just laying there having the vibrations coming into your body. Your mind is constantly going back to focusing and concentrating on those sounds. There's something magical about those sounds and when you do reach that transcendental state, that's where the magic is going to happen.
Speaker 2:
I usually end my sound bass with I pose a question. I'm like, perhaps drive home in silence and just contemplate what you went through in the last hour with me during the sound meditation, see if there's any conditions in your life that you would like to change. Did the sounds help you reach that conclusion that you don't ever need this more in your life? I'm not sure, but just contemplate. That experience is going to help you in the end, help you heal, and then tell your friends it's funny because I've just got a haircut.
Speaker 2:
As you can see, I don't have much hair. But please, well, how do people know about a sound meditation? And I'm like you know a lot of it is word of mouth because, like in the beginning, we're talking about what's a sound bath. What's a sound bath meditation? I have no idea. Nobody really does, except what you've experienced it. Then you are my best advertiser because you have that connection, you have that experience and you have that excitement with the sound bath. Hopefully in that next time you're going to have a better experience than you did the last time.
Speaker 1:
For sure. And I was just going to say something on top of that with the referrals and things like that, because I really didn't know what it was. But once I was in there I realized that my Reiki person practitioner uses gongs and things like that in her practice, a smaller version of a sound bath type thing. I thought, oh okay, I get it. And then my yoga gal, one of the instructors, has a gong like one of those bowls in her practice and she does that at the very end. And so, yes, that like a bowl, yeah, and so there's got to be a lot of science behind the therapy, behind sound, right, I mean, it's not all just anecdotal, there's got to be some science behind it.
Speaker 2:
Right, I'm not a scientist. All I know is my experience and what I've read from other people that are scientists. So there's entrainment, which is where the overtones of the instruments come into play when you're focusing on those sounds Like. I always start my sound meditations with the crystal bowls because it has that wah-wah-wah-wah-wah-wah effect. If you remember that, that gets entrained in your mind to go to that spot. And where that spot is, I wish I could find it all the time, but I don't always know where that spot is, but it's going to help you reach that entrainment with your brain.
Speaker 2:
Then there's also something called sympathetic resonance, which means your body is going to vibrate or your cells are going to vibrate with the sound that's around it. So, say, tuning forks. I don't have much experience with them, but I do know that if you do have a tuning fork and you hit one tuning fork and it's close to the same frequency resonance of the other tuning fork, the other tuning fork is going to start shaking as well. Also, like you know, the white glass that explodes it's like that has a sympathetic resonance as well, because it gets so much into it that it can handle all that vibration and it shatters.
Speaker 2:
So, something in the cells, the cytoplasm, and if you think about the vibration, if you think about our body, we're 70% water, our blood is liquid, we're liquid, so the vibrations are coming into the body and our body is very much a very powerful and very efficient machine where it wants to be, at homeostasis, which is equal balance, and it's going to pull in the things that it needs.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that's really cool. I want to tell you that back when I was a kid, my mom and dad always loved wine and they had the nicest wine glasses, and I remember when they would put a little bit of wine on the lip of the wine glass and make them yeah same same that was my first version of a sound bed.
Speaker 2:
Yes, it was.
Speaker 1:
Well, I love the fact. Did you have something to say? I?
Speaker 2:
do so. Just back to you're asking about the body and what's the primordial sound of creation. Oh, yeah, yeah, and I think you hear it sometimes when I play in the gongs. I know I do, I hear that sound, I do, and it's like that's creation, so sound. We're very much into sound. It's like also, remember, when you have a stressful day at work and you get in your car, what's the first thing you do?
Speaker 2:
You blast up the radio, you turn on the music, you turn on the sound to take yourself out of that situation. So mine are not tuned to like. I'm not a guitar, I don't have notes. I have these overtones with the gongs and the bowls and the chimes that really help people. Just zen bliss mean to.
Speaker 1:
It makes sense that it's healing for people who are going through any illnesses mental illnesses, physical illnesses. It just makes sense to me and I'm just so glad that I was able to make it and I'm grateful that you give your time to Cancer Community Clubhouse. Not all of my audience is in Reno, Nevada, and so I encourage people who are listening to reach out to see if there are any sound bath practitioners out there in your own area. I know that you can get them online and things like that is just not the same.
Speaker 1:
I did actually look enough and I was cut because I wanted to learn more about it, but it definitely isn't the same as being in, because you're not feeling it. So when you're in a sound bath with you, not only are you hearing it, you're feeling the vibrations in your body. So I really encourage people to reach out to your own community to see where those sound bath practitioners are and you know what? If there's not one, you should become one, because, seriously, it seems like it's a fun, clearly, but you get emotional when you find out that it really touched someone in a way that was very healing to them. So it's just, I mean, it's probably great for your mental state as well, and so, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, it's about giving back. It's about giving back and being acknowledged for giving back. And I just want to say how I got involved with the CCC at the Catsuit Community Clubhouse and Met you. Which was fantastic was I had a dear friend, her name was Kim. I lost her to cancer and we used to go to sound baths together all the time. That was our thing. We were like, oh, let's go to sound bath, let's go to another one. So we went to sound baths and she passed and I never really felt like I did enough to say thank you to her for being in my life and just what a dear friend she was to me. So this is my tribute or my I don't know my accolades to her.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, I love it. You dedicate these practices to her and you don't like to be called a healer. You like what is? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2:
Okay, I think the healing is going to come from you. I think sound healer it has lots of ego implications that, oh, I'm a sound healer and I could fix you and I could do this. It's like all I am is a facilitator. I am a practitioner. I provide the set which would be sitting in the yoga studio and the setting with the candles and the lights and then the sounds that I produce. That's what's going to help you on your healing process, not me.
Speaker 1:
Well, you know, essential oils are really healing and you do provide lavender. So just to be, fair, oh, jeff. I thought it'd be it.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I just it was such a good touch. I'm so glad you liked that. I love doing that, it's like because down there's also the olfactory it's like. So I burn a little sage in the beginning to like clear the air, sex. You up for a nice intention or a palo santo, one of those burning type instances, and then a lavender at the end. Just touch.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, well, and you do that at the time where you use the stick that creates that rainstown, the rainstown. Oh. I love that. And then and I wasn't expecting it, because that was the third time I was there, because you hadn't done that before and I'm laying there and that's when my friend Lisa was there sitting next to me and yeah, and she loved that, by the way, and the rain is one of my favorite parts.
Speaker 1:
And then when you came around and had the lavender at like, it was raining on our faces. It was so great. I love that, and I just always feel so rejuvenated when I walked out of there. Plus, you're a nice person. You can tell that you genuinely love what you do, so that makes all the difference too. So what is one big piece of advice that you would like to leave our audience with? Perhaps you've been thinking about that.
Speaker 2:
The one piece of advice I could leave with somebody if you don't experience the best sound bath your first time, please try it a second time, a third time, a fourth time. Eventually it's gonna hit with you. And if it's not with me, go to other people that do sound baths, because we're all different people. I'm a man. You may like a lady sound bath practitioner. Instead. You might like crystal balls or Tibetan balls, only not the gong. The gong might be too intense for you. So try it again. It's like I always tell people not always Many times I try to remember people. If you didn't like it this time and you want to try it again because you weren't satisfied, please contact me. You come back for free. It's not about a money opportunity. For me it's like, yes, it helps because I can buy more instruments, which is wonderful, and I want you to have that experience with a sound meditation that reaches you. It touches your mind, body and soul.
Speaker 1:
I love that, and also just so everybody knows why it actually does groups, I could seriously bring all my girlfriends so we could have a little party and have a sound bath first.
Speaker 2:
And your price point is not bad. It's good I could come to your house. I could come to your house and we could do a private one for you and all your girlfriends.
Speaker 1:
Yeah, that's really cool. I love it. So I see you have your gong in back of you.
Speaker 2:
Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1:
Can we do a little session before we wrap up?
Speaker 2:
Yeah, let's see how it goes.
Speaker 1:
Why I just love the sounds of your gongs and your chimes and everything, and I appreciate you're giving us a little snippet of what those sound like and again we can bolt the test to you. That in person is absolutely wonderful. So hopefully this will at least give an idea to the audience what you've just provided for us. And I just want to thank you also for taking your time today on Super Bowl Sunday. I don't know if you watch football. I'm not a huge football person, but I do love the 49ers and I do like the the 49ers.
Speaker 1:
I like the Kansas City Chiefs too. So I'm, but I am wearing my mother's you know her 49ers jersey that I kept out of her closet. She died four and a half years ago and I've never worn it, but I'm so glad that I kept it and so I'm excited. So thank you so much for being here and providing us with such wonderful information. Is there anything you'd like to say before we wrap up?
Speaker 2:
Thank you, Xamarin, for inviting me to be on your podcast. It's an honor to be here. It's not another honor to be able to help the cancer community.
Speaker 1:
I love it. Well, thank you very much, and to my audience, thank you so much for being here again and listening all the time, and I will see you next time on the next episode of Test those Breasts. Bye for now, friends. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of Test those Breasts. I hope you got some great much needed information that will help you with your journey. As always, I am open to guests to add value to my show and I'm also open to being a guest on other podcasts where I can add value, so please reach out if you'd like to collaborate. My contact information is in the show notes and, as a reminder, rating, reviewing and sharing this podcast will truly help build a bigger audience all over the world. I thank you for your efforts. I look forward to sharing my next episode of Test those Breasts.
