435 Podcast: Southern Utah
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435 Podcast: Southern Utah
Gratitude, Political Impacts, and Real Estate Dynamics
Is gratitude the key to finding joy amidst life's chaos, or is it just a comforting illusion? Join us as we navigate the complex dance between gratitude and self-awareness, especially during the Thanksgiving season. We open up about the struggle to appreciate both life's grand achievements and its simple joys, while often getting ensnared in the toxic trap of comparison and cynicism. It's a candid exploration of our personal battles with self-awareness, examining how recognizing our own shortcomings can lead to a more balanced, joyful existence. Our goal is to offer you a fresh perspective on maintaining gratitude, even when it feels like the last thing you want to do.
Switching gears, we tackle the rollercoaster of politics and real estate, two worlds that intersect more often than one might think. Reflecting on the emotional whirlwinds brought by election seasons, including the Trump era, we discuss how political climates shape our personal and business landscapes. From the importance of informed voting to the real estate market's reaction to political shifts, we cover it all with a pragmatic lens. We also delve into the significance of engaging with local history and current events, advocating for media that uplifts with meaningful stories rather than fear. Tune in for an episode that promises to enlighten and challenge your perspectives on these vital topics.
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Hey everybody, welcome back to the 435 podcast. I'm your host, robert McFarlane, and today we have a gratitude episode for you. It's Thanksgiving week, the holidays are coming up and Brandon myself, blake we missed Jeff today. He's out sick, but we want to talk about what we're grateful for in this past year and looking forward to the next year. So hope you enjoy this episode, guys. As always, check us out at realestate435.com for real estate expertise, dushan Wealth Management if you need financial advising, and Blueform Media if you have a great idea for a podcast. Enjoy this one, guys.
Speaker 2:We'll see you out there. From the Blueform Media studios. This is the 435 podcast the pulse of Southern Utah, rob.
Speaker 3:I think we've had a really good year looking back, and I think that what we should have some discussion around is some of the pits and peaks of the year. I think like not to say everything's been sunshine and rainbows, or that we're ready to call it a year and look totally new review, but I think that we've had some extraordinary blessings this year and I think that we've had some challenges at the same time, and I think Thanksgiving is always a time to have some reflection and just trying to put into perspective some of the things that we're grateful for.
Speaker 1:It's Thanksgiving week and I think you're right Staying in gratitude, man, it's such a hard thing for me. I don't know why it's I'm I'm very uh, I'm very cynical, and Jeff makes it worse.
Speaker 3:Jeff is, for sure, one of the most cynical people I know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and so yeah it's. It's always hard to stay great, uh, grateful. I did a journal for a long time that I wrote down like my top 10 goals that I want to achieve Just any 10 that came into my mind, and then 10 gratitudes and I always like would settle on, ooh, like warm cup of coffee and like the simple things in life, in gratitude.
Speaker 3:It's hard for me to celebrate big wins, like just in nature, I think like one of the where I always minimize it would maybe a big win to somebody else. I'm like well, it's not that big of a win you ever feel like sometimes, if you celebrate your wins, you're gonna like jinx it like sometimes I, sometimes I've I've won like small prizes and I'll be like man, it wasn't even the grand prize.
Speaker 1:I I wasted like my luck on the next, like I would have rather not won anything and just won the grand prize. Like sometimes that's what goes through my head. It's like, oh man, I only won this little thing instead of the big thing that I did want and I'm like, why is my brain wired like that? I hate it. I think, that goes back. I guess people say the self-awareness is good, but I don't know if it's not helping Self-awareness is always good. Was that Mal?
Speaker 3:laughing at me. I don't know. I heard Mal laughing at me.
Speaker 1:I giggled I giggled. You got to laugh on the bike, because then I'm like I don't know if that was for me or not. Is this a phantom person in the background.
Speaker 3:I think, just like Blake was just saying in our, in our earlier comparisons, the thief of joy, yeah, yeah. And I think sometimes it's just easy to say, um, you know, I, I didn't, I I won, sure, but I didn't win the grand prize, and so you, just, I think you're just playing the comparison game, which is supernatural. I think, like there is something inside of us as humans that makes us want to play the comparison game, no matter how, um, uh, bad, we know it is right, yeah, I, like, I'm, I'm guilty of it. When, uh, I see someone that I am not a fan of, that I think, like in my, in, in my world, I think they're actively doing harm to people and I see that they're having, like, they're, they're not winning as much, right, yeah, and so, like, objectively, I know, like I should, you should naturally just like it.
Speaker 3:You want to celebrate people's wins, right, um, but there's this thing about me that says like, but if I know, if I really truly believe that they're doing damage when they have wins, then I'm willing, like I'm, I'm, I'm willing to, rather than so. It's like the opposite of the comparison game, right, it's like, oh, I'm winning and they're and they're not, but I feel good about that because and I'm going to play the play the comparison game now, because I'm winning, right, because I'm winning relative to them I'm going to start playing the comparison game and, uh, that's like a hard cycle to break. So, even if you say, well, I'm going to not compare when I don't have the big wins like sometimes, when you have the big wins, you then play the comparison game as well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe, but you're playing it as like a winner rather than the loser yep, but and then it's just, which side of the, which, which side of the fence are you? Is your like status quo? Are you perpetually looking at the negative side of things? Is the glass half empty or half full? It's like, how do you?
Speaker 3:No, I think a lot of times I'm trapped in the same misery of you, which is self-awareness, and we just sit back and go okay, that's not good. That's not good. Okay, I'm here, but now I'm self-aware to what my own shortcomings are, and that's not good. Okay I'm, I'm here, but now I'm self-aware to what my own shortcomings are and, uh, that's like a really uncomfortable place to live, which is why I think most people like our, our natural tendency is to not live there.
Speaker 1:Right, Like it's uh, well, what, so what is? So? I think the biggest thing with coming up being grateful for the year and then like looking forward to the next year, like what's, what's a gratitude that keeps you excited about what's to come right, cause you can be grateful in the back in the past for, like, the things that you have and then excited for the future, right Do you is there? Is there one where you're like, man, this was a great year for this portion of your life and then you're looking forward to more next year. For me, it's my boys. Like watching them grow every single year and hearing you talk about ledger dude, that's awesome. When they're little babies, it's hard to get excited about the next year, cause you're like, no, I want you to stay a little baby.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I don't fall into that camp. No, I'm not falling into that camp. Uh, what I learned when ledger was when ledger was really little. I mean, he is still like really little by comparison, but uh, when he was a baby it was really hard for me to connect with him, right Like my wife uh breastfed and you know, exclusively and we're we're really grateful for that Um, but it made it like he didn't want to. You know, I was kind of useless to him, like in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1:It was hard to connect. And he's all hard, he's not squishy.
Speaker 3:As why is he hurting me? As he started, like after he started walking and then started playing more and then, especially, I'd say like when he, when he started talking, that's when we started to connect more and I learned to play with him and that was like a really big game changer started to connect more and I learned to play with them and that was like a really big game changer. Yeah, uh. But I think also part of it in the self-awareness is I was letting my own insecurities about I, oh, I can't connect with him as good get in the way of me leaning into that relationship with my own kid and, you know, putting in the work and, uh, making sure I was there and involved and all this stuff. Because now that we have another, another kid, our little girl, um, she's uh, seven months old right now and I can play with her and not granted a lot of times when I hold her.
Speaker 3:She just wants to go back to mom. Still, Right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, same kind of thing, but my relationship and kind of the bonding that I've been able to do with her at six, seven months, it's just, it's it's light years ahead of what I was able to do with our first kid. Yeah, and I think it's cause I was more comfortable and learned to be, you know, more of a dad and, uh, that's been a huge growth and learning opportunity, like probably one of the most challenging times to have it happen, right, um, professionally at you know at least. Uh, but we plan it that way, right, my wife and I waited a long time before we had kids. We kind of plan everything out and uh, I so I'm really excited now that I'm I have this kind of different relationship with my kids to to roll that forward, but to weave that back in, uh, I so I'm really excited to know that I'm I have this kind of different relationship with my kids to to roll that forward, but to weave that back in, not, you know, to do the Trump weave on you here, it.
Speaker 3:It makes me uh excited for them to grow up faster, right, like, and not to like grow up and like get out of my house. But I can see that the older they get the the more that I can be involved, right, the more that I can do the dad things you know, like air quotes. You know dad things like teach them how to fix stuff. Or you know, like he loves playing golf in the yard Like I can't teach a seven month old baby how to swing a golf club. So as she gets older, I'll be able to have those same kind of like dad experiences, right. It's like, um, and that's that's the age that I'm really excited for. I think that we're also really excited to travel again which would become easier.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I think, as we hit potty training and, you know, get beyond that, it's going to be a lot easier. So I I'm excited for that stuff to come. But, man, like this, next year my daughter will probably be walking. She's seven months, she crawls all over the place. Uh, she started clapping this week, like kind of on demand, um, and she started eating food recently, you know eating solids. So, uh, like, yeah, just, I mean next year, like it's going to be, my world's going to continue to change, just really fast. I'm excited about that.
Speaker 1:That's cool. Yeah, I'm excited for my boys. You know, getting a little bit, a little bit older, going back to like that mobile, you know being mobile and being able to connect with them differently than when they're real tiny. And I know you only have like a small, you have a really small time to connect with your kids to where they want to connect with you, cause that apparently, from what I'm told, it's like 13 and they're all, they're gone. They're gone. They don't want mom and dad as much.
Speaker 1:All that stuff starts to slide downhill, but it's, it's also natural people, you know we're, we're, uh, we're supposed to leave the nest. So it's like they got to start want, not wanting to be in the nests, for them to go out and make their own nest, you know. So it's like that. You know progression of kids. So you know, having an eight, eight year old is my oldest. So then you know, only have a handful of years left to really connect with that. So I'm I'm excited for that next year. I'm super grateful for the time I got to spend with him this year.
Speaker 3:I think one of the things that I've observed you doing in a couple of years that we've been, uh, business partners that I've been impressed by is the extent to which you lean in and take advantage of the flexibility of, um, the role that you play in our business and say, hey, I, you know a Thursday afternoon or whatever, like I'm not, I'm not out doing showings, and so you could spend your time cold calling people right To try to get the one more.
Speaker 3:You know you do it all year and you get the one or two more you know, real estate deals or whatever. Instead, like you were like a lot of times, you're out of the office in the afternoon sometimes and it's cause you're like volunteering at your kid's school, coaching their baseball, right, like this extra stuff where you do spend, uh, I, I mean, I think I, I feel like I observed you spend like pretty good time with your, your kids, in a very intentional manner, not just like I'm just going home, right, right, but there's a, an activity, you're volunteering, doing that kind of stuff, and I think that's a, you know, if you're looking for something to be grateful for, like, that's a, that's a life that not a lot of people have the opportunity to live, it's true. And uh, yeah, your kids probably are really grateful for that too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess they may, they, they, they for sure are they like? They like hanging out with dad, we like going on adventures and I know that's going to pay off dividends later on. And it's really. You know, being a real estate agent, you get to choose which, what path you want to grow. You know, do you want to grow massive and have, you know, hundreds and hundreds of deals, but your connections with those people are really shallow and, and you know, transactional and that's not the route that I wanted to go. It's not the route Jeff wants to go. I know even you and your business like that's not, it's not a quantity, it's a quality, as much as every business you know, mind out, there will be like no, it's in the qualities, in the quantity. I've heard that so many times. I'm like I don't know, man, everybody's got different, different expectations of how they want to live their life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know, I've had to bring on additional advisors in that business just because they're. I mean, we don't have like the turnover in clients and so I just like I get too busy. Yeah, um, and so even just the organic growth, we just have to expand so we can keep taking care of people, yeah, um so what else?
Speaker 1:what going back gratitude, what else? A couple more gratitudes for for this year. And then I was actually interested in a couple of topics I didn't even know you heard about.
Speaker 3:I am grateful that we're past all the elections.
Speaker 1:Me too. We were just talking about that with Blake Blake. Are you on, yet he? We were just talking about that with Blake Blake. Are you on? Yet he's sleeping. No, we were just talking about how you know the politics everybody's burnt out man.
Speaker 3:Holy cow, what a crazy last couple of years, I feel I I think it is hyper emotionally involved, as I did in the past. Oh really, I think, like man 2020 sucked me into a political place that I am not proud of. Oh, really Interesting. I think, yeah, I, you know, and I don't care to go back there and rehash that out at all but I think this time, no, please, Brandon, tell me more. No, I'm just kidding. I think what's unique this time is I looked at it uh, just look, I got four more years of maturity under my belt, Right, yeah, yeah, Uh. And just just looked at it with different contexts, different lens and I don't know, maybe this time I just uh.
Speaker 1:It always feels like there's so much on the line, though, and so it's like this stress, this like lingering stress, that everybody's like paying attention to all collective energy.
Speaker 3:I just feel like there's this one thing I've been through enough presidential elections now as an adult and congressional elections that just it's the biggest. You know this is the biggest, most important election of your lifetime and I'm like that's what you said last time and the time before, you know. I'm just like at what point do I just look at the data and say I just don't think it's gonna matter that, like all that much yeah, you know, I mean, I think a lot of people are gonna disagree for certain issues and they probably will.
Speaker 3:But, uh, this election cycle I just looked at and said, you know, uh, I don't think there's as a whole, as a category of people, I don't think politicians are, um, even close to free from corruption. Um, I think that government is full of fraud, waste, abuse. I think bureaucrats are going to do everything they can. They're going to fight tooth and nail to keep that. So, although, uh, I'm a very, uh, conservative person by nature conservative and libertarian is probably how I describe myself Um, and I I hope that the Trump administration succeeds in so many of the things that they said they want to do, uh, I wasn't putting all my chips on them winning emotionally or or uh, any candidate for that.
Speaker 3:I just said I like this time. I just looked at it and said, okay, how can I read the markets and how can I profit? Because, you know, chances are, uh, you know I'm going to get screwed either way in the long run by taxes and by, uh, you know someone's going to pass a policy that I don't like, um, regardless of what party they're in. So, uh, you know someone's going to pass a policy that I don't like, regardless of what party they're in. So you know I'll cast my vote at the ballot box right.
Speaker 3:I was made sure I was involved enough to be an informed voter you know, voted which I'm grateful for right, like I'm super grateful that we can do that in our country. But other than that, just you know, like what was going to bring me the most success and the most joy and everything long-term in my family was for me to just right, I'm grateful.
Speaker 1:I'm grateful it's over to man.
Speaker 3:Most economic benefit off of it, the most.
Speaker 1:the most um likely scenario typically ends up being the case, and I don't think it was likely that Trump was going to win. And then Trump winning oddly enough, at least around here has been like this huge sigh of relief, like I had people come in and open house the other day like, oh man, I'm just so grateful that Trump won. He's like now he's all of a sudden motivated to buy real estate, which I you think is. Is that like a real thing? People are waiting to buy real estate or sell real estate, uh, you know, to find out what the election, the election results are. I think it was weird to see it happen right after.
Speaker 3:I think people really were and it was funny was right after it happened, I like, um, like Wednesday and Thursday morning, I had people started reaching out like, oh man, is it time? Should we should, you know, should we get, should we get invested more in the market? Now I'm like I mean, the market was telling us this like two weeks ago, they were pricing this in and like, remember, what I said just a minute ago was, how do I profit off of this? Like we just allocated out and, yeah, you know we, we invested accordingly. Um, you know, according to what the market was telling us, yeah, the market.
Speaker 1:The market changes every day. So whether it's one, one big event like an election, yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3:It's already priced in.
Speaker 1:It's already priced in.
Speaker 3:Markets, a forward looking. You know discounting mechanism. I was relieved as well.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you were Blake's back I was wondering. I was wondering where you were.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nature was calling, so I had to Nature called.
Speaker 3:He was relieved. I suppose he was relieved. Okay, moving on, but I do think that people I think people primarily were waiting, not because they thought if Kamala Harris had won, that the world was going to end. So they don't want to buy a home.
Speaker 1:That legitimately was this guy's argument.
Speaker 3:I think some people maybe thought that, but what I really think people were holding out for was the interest rate play. They thought interest rates would come down if, if Trump won.
Speaker 1:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 1:This guy. This guy has Bitcoin and he's like, oh man, bitcoin rallied after Trump's win and now he's like I'm going to use my Bitcoin to buy real estate. That was legitimately walking Okay.
Speaker 1:And this is a well, that's some pretty different context, man. It's true, it's just really interesting to have like those kinds of scenarios, like in real life, like play out before you when you're thinking, oh you know, are people on the fence, whether one side or the other wins? How many people there's $3.5 trillion in crypto market, right? Like how many thousands and thousands of people are out there that, with that victory, with that trump win, now bitcoin's rallied to a hundred thousand, almost right. And would that have happened if kamala won? Do you think bitcoin would have rallied the same way?
Speaker 3:I don't know um, I don't know if it would have happened this fast, but I I think you saw through this. You know, really, if you look at the charts, I don't. I'm not going to get into charts right now. People want, people don't care. Where's that?
Speaker 1:soundboard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know that's on a another device we have yeah, but but going back to it, I I think it's pretty crazy though, like being grateful for something like that kind of an event and then seeing it play out in real life. There's a lot of people relieved around this place, I mean for sure. And so, um, thinking of, you know what was, uh, what? What do you think? I guess the I mean politics dominated everything.
Speaker 1:When we look back at our, our stats on the, on the different episodes and things like that, it seems like the community really is interested in like personal stories of of the locals, which I'm super grateful for having the opportunity to like tell stories of like local people and their business struggles and, um, you know how, how all these things are interconnected. You know how business and politics, all those things are all intertwined and to see it play out, you know kind of how it has this year. I've never seen it that way because I've never followed it as closely because of the podcast. I've never followed it as closely to watch how they all link together.
Speaker 3:That makes sense, yeah there were some like there were some really cool stuff that we learned this year, I think doing this podcast. Yeah and uh, I'm like I'm grateful to have made those connections and learn that because it's it like it sheds a lot of light on our local community that we live in and I mean we're here, we choose to participate and be pretty active in the community. Yeah and uh, it's really helpful to understand at a deeper level is some non-natives yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:You know we're a bunch of non-natives. Um blake, what are you grateful for? Man thinking of podcast world? I mean, this election showed us that podcasts are king. This point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, I'm. I'm just grateful for good sources of information and the ability to discern that at our own leisure, is that?
Speaker 3:why? Is that why you listen to Call Her Daddy?
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I listen to the Hawk Tua girl too. Hawk Tua, those are like the most trusted sources on the internet. That's it, that's it no. But, like you know, elon Musk buying Twitter just to allow people. All we really want is the ability to discern, like, let's you know, let's stop putting the filters on everything and let's discern for ourselves. It's going to be a horrible mess to swim through, but at least we can pick up that burden and do yeah, rather than being like, oh well, you know, teacher said this and yeah, the newscaster said this, and I just have to take it for face value now, like, go do the work, and I think we're all that's. Our responsibility, right, is just to be doing that work as citizens and finding out, like you said earlier, brandon, being an informed voter, right, making sure you've you've done your due diligence.
Speaker 1:So I my question is for the, the listeners, and obviously you guys can chime in and ask as well. But if you're listening in to this podcast at this stage in the episode, you know we want to think, you know that discernment, that ability to look at these different platforms as opportunities to learn and be concise, I'm curious, what do you want to hear out of us? What do you want to know about the local conversation? Cause it is, it is so niche, right, it's so small. We were looking at, you know, looking at subscribers and views and all that stuff, and it gets so exhausting because what all you really want to know is what's what's impactful to the, the people in the local community, you know, and what do they want to know more about?
Speaker 1:And I'm super grateful this is another thing is the, the base of subscribers that we have. Now they do communicate to me like, hey, this would be a good topic, or that would be a good topic. I have a lot of really close people and you know, people I've never met before but only, you know, found on the internet and found on YouTube, to say, hey, this would be a good topic to dive deeper into, or I want to know more about this or that. So, and I really appreciate that, so I want to, I want to continue that, to be able to guide the podcast forward is what? What does the local population want to know? You know, do they want to know, talk more about national stuff and then zoom in and the state level? I, I, I would probably say most of them just want to know what's going on in the state and the local level, like across the state and then here in Southern Utah.
Speaker 3:I think if people I think when people come to this podcast, if if they have a care about national issues. My guess is that what they care is how it affects their life here locally yeah, yeah, how does it connect?
Speaker 1:where's that connection point?
Speaker 3:I mean, I remember talking to adam snow once, like commissioner snow, and uh, he was telling me about like the water issues in southern utah are literally being discussed in washington. Yeah, right, so all of a sudden, you know, water is this national conversation. It's a conversation here locally, but they're having conversation at the national level. That would absolutely impact the state and then our county level. Yeah, it's like in a water resource.
Speaker 1:You know, if you pull up the news like st george news, and you look at what the headlines are, it's like car crash, car crash. This guy you know robbed an ATM. And then you know there's all these like really horrible stories about like these little fraction moments of time, but there's no like deeper dive stories into like what's going on in the community and connecting that. So I think that your point's taken. I think that would be, you know. But is that true? Is that what people are listening? You know, the people that are listening, is that what they want to know? I kind of agree, actually, if I might, if I may.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we got two. I think these issues that are being discussed in Congress or in Washington, like Brandon's referring to, they're not making local headlines enough. And so a car crash and a guy robbing an atm, like pick a city in the united states, and that's happening right now. Right, it's not that unique, but, um, what's, what's lacking in southern utah and I think, in a lot of small towns, is the news media outlets have become so commercialized and so big and so fear-driven like they're looking for a, a frequency of fear in the people, because that's what grabs attention too, unfortunately, is fear, so, um, there's not a lot. I think what you guys could do and what I would hope to see from the 435 podcast, as a listener myself and and co-producer with mallory, is, like more in, like, let's tell people the history of this place, like who settled this place, what's the significance of, like, certain buildings in downtown and certain buildings in santa clara, and why does this issue start here and where does it go back to? Oh, this issue started in 1820 or whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:I love that um also talking about, like current events or major events that have happened like you know, on netflix, all this like flds stuff yeah, it's huge nationwide.
Speaker 2:Chris weiler that was one of our most popular episodes this last year yeah, and then the significance of, like we're about 45 minutes away from colorado city, maybe an hour of traffic, but yeah, you know, that's a. That's kind of a big part of this, this region of the united states. It's part of our history and there was a huge migration in the early two thousands to this area, with all the FLDS people coming in and stuff and like that. That's interesting to the nation but it's also relevant to us, since we live here, and I think that could be good takes on that stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just want to make sure that anytime we highlight something like that, we always give everyone the most you know like dignity and respect possible and let them tell their story, you know.
Speaker 1:however, they want it. Oh, definitely, sort of told, and I think we've done a nice job at that so far, for sure. Uh, I think I'm just curious. I'm just genuinely curious about stuff, so I just want to know more.
Speaker 3:Like bring, someone has to judge, bring someone on that can tell you why washington's called dog town. That's interesting. I didn't even know that, and uh, you don't. You've never heard washington called dog town yeah, dog, I've heard.
Speaker 2:That was like the first thing I heard when I moved here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, really, yeah, I missed that one it was like yeah, like the area up by up, like old washington, okay, like south, uh, south of telegraph, like south side of telegraph, like uh uh, but north of like where you would start to screw like but like north of the river, basically, okay, got it. Yeah, you just call that. That's like that's old dog town, man, cause there's a dog park down there. No, the dog park's called dog town because it was called dog town.
Speaker 1:That's why they call it dog town.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean those, those behind that yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:I think that would be a cool thing why is dog town called dog town? Because, like you know, you guys know derek leg. Okay, I'll give, I'll give us about it all the time.
Speaker 1:Don't, don't, don't give it now. We got to do a whole episode on it. We'll let you. We'll let you read it.
Speaker 3:There's the teaser, let it stir.
Speaker 1:It's not flattering, it's not flattering nothing's flattering. Uh no, revisionist history man. When you look back at time, everybody looks dirty remind me, I gotta, I'll have you.
Speaker 3:Uh, I'll have you bring, uh, I'll get cody spendlove on here. Yeah, yeah, cody spendlove. He's got an unlimited amount of great stories about southern utah, but in particular, there is a good podcast.
Speaker 1:There was a podcast, I gotta pull it up too it's like the history of saint george going on right now too.
Speaker 3:Well, cody spendlove wrote his like thesis paper um on, uh, an event that happened in southern Utah. That kind of is tangential, is that how you say that? Sure, tangential, I'll take it Tangential Accepted To the Mountain Meadow Massacre Okay, and kind of bridges the gap between that and Powell's expedition Interesting. And he's expedition Interesting and he's got some really cool historical evidence in journals he found and wrote about these topics.
Speaker 1:That's the crazy thing about Utah. History, though, is that it's all written down. I mean the pioneers. They wrote a lot of stuff down, and they kept meticulous details.
Speaker 3:If Cody's willing to come on and talk, that'd be a cool one. Sometimes he doesn't like telling everything he knows to everyone, but Well, I mean this as we, as we kind of wrap.
Speaker 1:I know this episode is really a big shout out to all of our, our audience, the subscribers, the people that have been tuning in for the last almost a hundred episodes plus Um, I don't even know what episode we're on. I think we're we're on. I think we're we're approaching 100, we're like around 90.
Speaker 1:So yeah, right around there right around 90 and thinking about if, how do we approach 2025? Over the next couple of weeks we're we're gonna uh, kind of just wrap up the year without taking on any heavy, super heavy topics, like we've taken on all year. Um, in 2025 we going to really gear up for 2025 to have a really good, solid, educational-type podcast for Southern Utah, for Utah in general, of what are the big issues, what are the business topics, what are the real estate things going on to keep people. Everybody's going to go to their own individual sources for all different types of stuff. You're going to listen to this podcast for sports and this podcast for you know this or that entertainment. But we want everybody to know that we're dedicated to giving Southern Utah in-depth analysis on what's current and what's going on right now. We'll we'll take a look down memory lane, we'll go backwards and and get some history lessons in between, but really we're committed to what.
Speaker 1:What's the current local government? What's the government news that you need to know? Legislation's going to come through. It's going to be confusing. There's going to be lots of different stuff rolling through. So we're going to try to sift through some of that stuff when we follow the politics. We're going to continue to track Tech Ridge and Intergalactic and the biggest businesses that are in Southern Utah to see how they're doing Other big businesses that are going to be coming into town. So, yeah, that's what we're committed to all the rest of the year. So, but I am thankful for you, brandon, being a part of the team, blake and Mal Jeff, who's sick right now. If you've got prayers for Jeff, he's not feeling super great today. We wanted to have him on the show to do a Thanksgiving episode. So, thinking about you, buddy, everybody else, enjoy your Thanksgiving break.
Speaker 2:Do you mind if I say what I'm grateful for?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because you were relieving yourself.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was. I'm grateful for modern plumbing, first of all, modern plumbing, yeah but, Brandon and Rob are fantastic podcasters. Their consistency is unmatched and their dedication to their brands. I'm super grateful to know you guys as friends and have you as clients. Thanks, man. Super grateful to know you guys as friends and have you as clients. Thanks, man, um. But also I am grateful for the 435 podcast being so neutral. It's hard to remain neutral in today's political landscape and I think rob does a fantastic job.
Speaker 2:He slipped up here and there, but I think it's all right though but yeah, you know having the governor in there, who you've disagreed with a lot, and you know being neutral and creating a space where people can actually discuss this stuff rather than just become, uh, another coal or another piece of wood on the fire that feeds this. Like you know, if you're on the other side, I hate you you're wrong. Yeah, man I'm really grateful for that man.
Speaker 1:I think about that often, so I appreciate that, that I'm going to continue to do it. I think it's maybe because I'm just confused so I'm just flippy floppy. No, not really that way. It really does. You have to examine all the aspects of it, like if you, if you believe one way, you got to challenge the other side. But uh, I do, I do put a lot of commitment to that. So I appreciate you recognizing that, my friend, absolutely. Well, everybody, this is a short episode. We hope you enjoy your Thanksgiving. We will, as always, see you out there. Thanks for listening in. If you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe. Make sure you're following us on all the social media websites. We love your support. We love the dialogue. We want to continue that going. Find us at realestate435.com.
Speaker 3:We'd love to help you find a house here in town or help you get wherever you're going.