Charlotte Abell - Using Energy from Angels

Karen and Charlotte talk about their experiences with spiritual connections, past lives, and interactions with the angelic realm. 

Charlotte share her journey to learn to clear blockages and channel high frequency energy from angels to help others. 

Transcript

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I'm very happily sitting in Carroll County, Maryland with two very interesting women. One friend of the show, Karen Boger and the other, Charlotte Abel. Welcome ladies. Thank you. Thank you. It's good to be here. Well, I think we're going to have a lot of fun. I think so. I know from talking to you briefly Charlotte, That you were not born in Carroll County, that you have moved here. From the big city from Baltimore, Dundalk, Dundalk. And then I was not quite nine years old when we moved to the farm outside of Mount Airy and then got married and moved from Mount Airy to Winfield. Which is five miles. I've been here ever since. Oh, five whole miles away? Five whole miles, or maybe eight. It depends on if you go by the road or by the crow flies. Or if you're riding your horse. They used to ride a horse between. I think there are a lot of things that have happened in your life that are pretty interesting from what I hear. I don't know much about you. I know Karen and, and I And she said, there's this lady that lives down the street from me, you gotta talk to her. Charlie. So this is basically a podcast that I like to talk about spiritual things, talking to people on the other side and things that you can't necessarily see, taste, experience. Touch that are here with us and to try to let people know that it's real. It is real. And, and one thing that we heard that we talked about a little bit before we got going was that you do some medium work. I do a little medium work. My daughter Melissa also does medium work and soul awakening readings is what she calls them. And it usually when she works with someone on a one to one basis. It's like your loved ones come through with their messages, so it's not like she sits and, and has a big group of people like some of them do. And, and like, as somebody here with the name of George or whatever, you know, this is like your stuff. So she does more of the mediumship and I've had training in mediumship. It's, I do it on occasion. It depends if you really want it. how did you get trained to do it? Well, my daughter and I, we went to Arthur Finley College, I guess you'd call it. No way! In England? In England, right? Holy cow! Yeah! Oh my gosh, I have Looked at their website. I have taken a course online that's the best of the best. Oh, it's the best of the best. And so much fun when you're over there. It's like we went in 2013 and it was like, we were only, I think two of six Americans there, everybody else was, from other countries. And it was an interesting thing because my daughter and I, we realized that there were some real dark witches there. And they kind of, when you have a lot of light, it's like dark recognizes that. And the whole week that we were there, we were kind of like in the crossfire of these people that What's a dark witch? Well, these people, if they saw that you were really bright light, they kind of had a group and they circled you. And there was one guy who was very physically fit, just really strong person. And then first day that we were there, we were, had a window to the driveway and we looked out, there's an ambulance. And who do you think they're taking out, but the really strong man. It's like he had been with these group of women, the ones that we identified later as like kind of a dark energy. They were always after Melissa. It's an interesting, Arthur Finley, it was a dorm thing. And so he had a room and he had to share a bathroom and a shower. So You know, the, the two witches, we'll just call them that. They, they would come and use our bathroom that was assigned to us, even though they lived way down the hall and had their own. And you know, it was interesting that they would just kind of circle us and, and just do the look. And it's interesting because they weren't after me, they were after Melissa. So I was her guardian. The dragon came out. And the last night we were there, I remember I was, you had to go out in the hallway to make a phone call because that's the only place where you had Wi Fi. So I went out to call my husband or, or to call home. So I went out there was making a phone call and I was in the hallway in this little alcove waiting for the elevator when these two people came down the hall in the dark of the night and we're going to go in and do something to Melissa. And I remember jumping out in front of them and scared the jeepers out. Well, thank goodness you did. I know it was just amazing. It was like they had a lot of we'll call it Nazi energy. You know, they were of that ilk. They just, they wanted to say a prayer, but it was in front of everybody, but it was like really a dark thing if you picked it out. It's an interesting thing. That is interesting, but I don't want, I don't want people that are listening to think that if you go to Arthur Findlay College that you're going to get infected by, by dark energy. Tell us a little bit. I mean, it's a, it's a regular brick and mortar. It's a campus, and they have wonderful instructors who watched everything. And they made sure that every time there was an interaction, that one of them was there kind of processing to look to see what are you, what is light going to do with a darker energy? Hopefully, darker energy would come more to light. And when we left, everybody left. So our lesson, Melissa and I, because like, before we even went to Arthur Finley, I had a reading with a wonderful medium, Hoyt Robinette, and the first words that came out were, Hello. This is author, author Finley. I hear you're coming to my school. My goodness. And that decided that, I guess I will. It's really going to be good because we learned that you can't really be, open to everything. You, you have to really be aware of the energies that are coming, because Arthur Finley used to think everything's going to be wonderful here. And that's what they said. That's what Arthur said. You know, so it was really good for us, because you learned that you know, there exists some people who want to kind of make your light shine. more dim and do that kind of thing. So we went again two years later and it was nothing like that. It was absolutely wonderful. You know, you'd learned a mediumship and you have these wonderful teachers that are so positive and encouraging. And you're with other people who are also interested. Everybody that was there. And again, we were very few Americans. It was like more, more other countries. And these, you know, People from other countries, they are so incredible, you know, to meet a stranger and then tell you all about your stuff. It's really cool. That is, that's really fantastic. And did you have any feeling before you went? Did you have any feeling yourself, I think I'm going to be able to connect up with the other side? Did you have any, like, spiritual kind of connections? Oh, already had it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. This was just the kind of experience that, to go travel, to travel, to go to another country and then this esteemed college, you know. When was the first time that you, that you felt that you had a connection? Oh, my. With the other side? I, I guess like when Bob, when my husband died, he died of a brain hemorrhage and I was only 59 and It was like, and maybe Karen has had this experience with her husband too, it's like it wasn't long after he died that I remember being in bed and just knowing that he was right there. Okay. And before that I had always figured that you did go on, it was never really a question. Right. But this, this, your knowing. Yeah. It wasn't the result of any special combination of behaviors or actions or chanting or anything else like that. You just were in your bed and you just knew he was there with you. I just knew he was there. And you know, after the shock of of a sudden death and, dealing with everything that you have to deal with to just I remember I'm, I moved the furniture in my bedroom around just because, and then I just remember that he came in with the change of the bed, you know, it was just and then different messages from other mediums funny things that only he would know. Right. Because we always had a thing about pictures on the wall. an artist, and I painted, but he wouldn't want to ever put any holes in the wall. So like a couple days before he died, he's there with a hammer and making holes in the wall to hang all my pictures. But he put them up high because he was tall. He said, they always have to come two feet down. And some look like this. So, so at any rate, his message is, it's like, I'm sorry. I'll put the pictures up so high. These things that only I would know and it's proof positive that, that they're around. Absolutely. Yeah. Karen, I don't think you spend much time doing medium kind of stuff, or do you? I don't call it, yeah, I don't call it that. I just have always felt like I could that I was in contact with other beings. I never really understood it. But yes, I've felt my husband around and he's given me messages a few times. But as well as other people who have passed have come, I remember, I think probably the first time I realized that my kids were real little and they were running around the yard and there was this little whirlpool of leaves following them around the yard. I'm like, well, that's funny. And then I get a call from my mom saying that my step grandma had passed away. So I'm like, that must have been what that little whirlwind was that was following my kids around. And then I've had other experiences like that as well, with people who have passed. really, really cool things that just once they happen, you can't deny that it's there. And so you continue to believe in it. Like when my dad passed away, I was making coffee in the kitchen. I have a picture of me and him on the cabinet out there. And I just looked at it and I just got this download of unconditional love. I just felt it all through my body. And, you know, it's like, when you feel that stuff, you just, you know, it. Yeah. And you can't, you can't take yourself away from it anymore. You know, it's like, I can't disbelieve this anymore. This is, this is so real. So there may be people that are going to listen to this episode of The Pocket that have lost someone and they just have that feeling like you guys have described. Yeah. And I guess the message from you two is, Don't deny it. Accept it. Don't doubt it. Yeah. And you can feel it in your heart. You know, so once you feel it, can I tell the last one that happened to me? Because this one is like. Of course. My, my dog Sasha passed away, like, the September before last. And just a few months ago, I was sitting on the couch and I heard a dog whine. And I thought it sounded like Sasha, but I'm like, okay, fine. I mean, I live here by myself, you know, and I'm like, I'm just hearing things. You don't have a dog. I don't have a dog now, no. So, and then it happened again. And I went, Sasha? And as I said that, and even now when I say it, I felt her come into the room and just give me unconditional love. And it was, and it, and it made me cry, you know, because it was so real. And so it's like, it is, it's like so important that when You know, if somebody passes, realize that they're always there with you. They are. Yeah. And your animals, too. Oh, yes. Because I had a love affair with a horse. My horse, Dacre, I had him for years. And when he died, it was like he would always come back. And The dreams and the realness of him in the house. It was like he is a big horse He was in your house. He was always in the refrigerator. I was in the door to see what was in there because he was a picky Well, how comforting though, I mean, aside from the silliness of the, of that, you know, but, but how comforting to have that spirit of that horse or that dog. Yeah. Be with you. And so, yes, I certainly urge anyone who is listening to the podcast or who knows someone who has lost a pet or that should tell them, be on the lookout for this, it's real and it's likely to happen if you have your eyes out for it. And if you accept it and don't doubt. Don't doubt it because is real. When you know something deep in your heart, you know it. Yeah, you know it. I have had some very strong knowings that brought tears to my eyes because it's like, oh, that's just such a wonderful feeling. So at any rate, it's, it's, it's really wonderful thing. Now, let me ask you, Karen. When, like, when was the first time that you remember having one of these kind of connections with the other side? Well, I think that even when I was little, like I would wake up in the middle of the night and I would see, kind of weird, I would see this little animal sitting beside my bed. And I would reach down and pat it and talk to it. And then I got to the point where when I was a teenager and I was in school, I realized that I could not talk about this kind of stuff to people because nobody would believe me, but I always felt that, things were alive. So you always felt that things were alive. Go ahead. Yeah. I just continued to believe it but not talk to anybody about it until I started seeing things as I got older and met Charlotte and Charlotte really helped me to get me to understand that there's more to life than just what I was seeing. Okay. She used to have a group. I thought it was called the meditation group. You said it had another name. I just always called it the meditation group that we, I would go to. And she would bring in people that did Reiki or talked about stones or did massage, or you've always talked about astrology. So, and I was just a yoga. Fitness instructor at that time sitting there going, how in the world do I fit into this? How can I fit into this? And then I just kind of like shape shifted into finding out more stuff as I continued hanging out with, with, with you. Well, you're a naturally inquisitive person, I think. Because once you get an angle on something, once you get like a little nibble of something, you don't just say, Oh, that's nice. You go in and learn about it. Yeah. If it's like, especially if it's like, Hmm, like really interesting in ways that the regular world isn't paying attention to, I guess I like that other realm. Maybe that's why I read. Alice in Wonderland like 30 times, go to another realm. And that there actually is space like that. Lots of different realities. And thinking back to when I got that little the reason that I had the office over there was because I was doing past life regressions on people. I've done a little bit of everything, I guess, but I learned past life regression actually had a certification in it. Before it was ever anything. And Let me just back up a little bit. You said you had an office somewhere? Yeah. I missed that. Where did you have an office? The office was in Winfield. In the, you know, the Blue Law area. So it was like Joyful Associates was the official name of it. But it was the meditation group, and I think it was once a week I would have someone come in and do a different kind of talk about what they did. So looking back, and that was 1994, I opened the office because I was doing breath work then, and you know, I had a reporter come in to be breathed, which is a. whatever. At any rate, when he was in his thing, he met his dead father and had an experience with his father. So he wrote about that in the newspaper. It was an article. And then from there, I think it was Marty Bass and somebody else from WJZ TV, you know, they call this and wanted us to come in there at six o'clock show or something to talk about breath work, which I did with my partner, Lovita. And then from there, it's just like always finding some, somebody doing Reiki or different healing modalities. And then I did astrology. I was learning astrology and I would talk about that and, and past lives and all that. I was saying, you know, the past life when I met my horse, it was, I knew he was my old war horse. So, and He was, thinking about he was just a rogue that nobody else wanted, and so he was mine. In this life, you mean? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's just like it's always felt that, thinking back, I've always felt there were past lives. Okay. So it was no, no big surprise that, you know, I would get involved with that. things on the other side. Okay. Yeah. I, I have always been fascinated by past lives and past life regressions, life between lives, things like that. And recently I was reading a book. The doctor, I think his name is Michael Newton. I don't know if you've heard of him where he He did a lot of work with past life regressions and that sort of thing and in the book one of the chapters that really interested me was soul groups. Do you know what do you know about soul groups? So what do you think of that? Well, I really think that's a legit thing because like when you come into this world, just like Karen and I, how would we ever have met? And I've met people, there are dear friends who live in Wales and England and all over the world that you meet. And one time, you know that this is someone that you've, Had some something to do with before and so I think you do come in and kind of a soul group they say it's a small world and You know I think life It makes that legitimate because it is a small world when you think about the people that you met Somewhere and then you run into them at an airport or Lots and lots of people and then there's this person. It's all On the same flight just happened to be on the flight And you happen to have so much in common, and you feel like you've known them forever. Right, right. And I think families, too, would be a soul group, even though a lot of times in families there's a lot of estrangement, you know, like hate them or whatever. So But I think you always come together to learn something, and I've read a lot about the soul groups, so I'm assuming that it is, it's a real thing, because sometimes you go places and you have no interest in what those other people are doing, and then other times you just, you know, Jump in like the old friends kind of a thing. I do remember the name now, Dr. Michael Newton the Newton Institute it's been very big on developing a. people past lives and that sort of thing. Mm-Hmm. and has done something like 7,000 past life progressions that have been documented. And made it very, scientific in that the fact that this is not some fly by night guy on a corner. Right. Hanging out a shingle and trying to woo unexpected or innocent people in to, to make money off them. This is real life and, and people having memories of past lives and to me the soul Is very comforting because the thought that there are people That I've been in many, many past lives with, and maybe I've been their brother, or their mother, or their sister, or their daughter, or whatever, their wife. But in different lives you play different roles. Is that how, what your understanding of a soul group is? Yeah, yeah. That and then the enormity of it. I mean, it could be a lot, larger than, than just like your family kind of thing, because it's like your friends that come in from all over the world, and, and it's a lasting friendship. I get to travel a lot because I'll know people everywhere. Right, right, right. Well, I, I do think that your horse, for example, was obviously part of your soul group because you had had that horse. In a previous life, and then again in this life. Yeah, it's just like I always, you know, wondered if that was like a fantasy of mine, but it was for real. You know, he was my baby, he was mine. Karen, have you ever had any feelings that somebody might have been in your soul group? Yeah. And you've met up with them? Yep, I have. and it just makes you feel and, which makes it real easy for you to talk to them. And just makes it, you just have to believe it and feel comfortable with them. I want to bring up that Charlotte, you know, like I was telling you the other things that Charlotte did. Yes. You know, so Charlotte, you used to do things with angels. Yes. And then you had this conference that I went to one time where everybody followed the moon. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah. We follow the moon. We do medicine wheels and I learned astrology. And, and then I began to work with Michelle Anderson doing something called master alignment. And that was working with. Angels, the objective of even past life regression is like to go back in and heal something that that's like a stuck point. And so the angel work was before DNA had been discovered, of course, but DNA at that point in time, you can't ever change it. It's just a junk. Most of it is junk. I mean, this was the scientific view, like 98 percent of your DNA is junk. Well, you know, that's not true. So the work that I did with Master Alignment was actually working with very high frequency energy to like sit across from someone and, and, you know, shove the energy in there from the training I had. And it's like being the carrier of this. very high frequency energy that it was like an experimental time. It's like the angels or the group of angels that did it were, they said they'd never been in the earth before. They didn't know what it was like to be in a body, but they wanted to run this energy through you. It's like, it's like the electricity. And at first, It was a lot of electricity. So learning how to handle the high frequency without actually having it damage your body because they didn't know what a body was like, just run it through this receptacle, I guess, and let it go out and like work in other people's bodies to find a stuck point. I gotta, I gotta pull the reins in, in on, on this discussion and go back because you're like, I'm running along behind you, and you're like, you're like three miles ahead of me, and I'm going, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, you know. So let's, let me ask you about this topic. And Karen, thank you very much for bringing this up, because this is, this is something that you, had hinted at, but little did I know that it was going to be something like this. As far as that soul group thing goes, I think it's happening now. So I hear you. I hear you. I, I, I agree with you. Yeah. I, I didn't know you. I didn't have any reason to have met you. Yep. I know. And, and then all of a sudden I meet you. It is part of this podcast, which I have no idea how I ever kind of got steered over to start and then and then it was just like, oh, that person and I are connected somehow. I don't know how, but I'm not fighting it because it's like, It's like I'm talking to my long lost sister, for God's sake, and two years ago we never met each other or knew we existed. So yeah, I agree with you about the soul groups. And you know, before we get into asking Charlotte about the angels, I actually interviewed, I know a couple of people who are from the angelic realm, their souls is what you're talking about a little bit. they're in human form, but they didn't come up like I did from human beings that, that have been on this earth. They're, they come from the angelic realm, and it's very difficult for them to be in human bodies because of that high energy and the fact that they are so much affected. By low energy they are really sensitive to it and and it's very very difficult For them which makes it hard when you're going through your day to day life in the real world because there's plenty of low energy out there, but but how wonderful it is to be associated with that high energy. How did you happen to get? I've always looked for different people who did different things of this nature. I integrated awareness with Connie Newton, and then she would have conferences, and these different people would come in and do talks. And the connection I had with Michelle, Anderson really must have been like soul group because she's brought in. It's like people bring in new work, just like what's happening now. It's like new stuff. And so at the time, like I said, DNA was just like, It's all junk and the angels are saying, no, no, that's all your past stuff. That's like your, when we open more of that DNA strand, you come into your intuition, you come into your ability to do these things, to live longer, to live a better life, more complete. You're, you know, you're opening up another package and, and the time is now for that. You know, we're, we're in big time. So when did you do that angel stop? Was it like, it was the 93 that I took the course and no, I took the course in 95, but I met Michelle in 93 and I had her come in and do workshops. And the first one was how to tell your past lives from what's in your kitchen. So you look around your house and you see the things that you are drawn to. And in my house, I have these primitive warriors running around. I have Indian stuff. I have all these things. And it's like what kind of implements, what do you, kind of china do you have? So you can pick out the past lives that you've had that have meaning in this life. I see. Because you've been around for a long time, but the more you worked, and then when she did this initiation, like opening your body, like a week long training to open up and clear your stuff. So that you can be a clear channel for other people. And I remember doing so many of these sessions when I first got it, cause you're so enthused. You want to, you want to heal the world. I did so many of them in the energy would come in back here and my neck broke out and was bleeding. My ears were bleeding. It's like, it's a sign you do a little bit too much. And then from this high energy that the angels say, well, we don't know what it's too much, you know, when you put this in there. So, and a number of, people actually got cancer from doing too much work, because like your ego takes over and you think I'm gonna heal the world. So it's like my job to go and, you know, grab all these people and clear them. But I never did that. I just bled. So, so you took some courses that, let me back up, to help you to To clear out things within you that were kind of interfering with the energy flow, the stuck points. Yeah, what is your fear is basically your stuck point. What is it that you're most afraid of? And it's usually from something that a trauma or something from the past or like an old wound that never really healed. But your body remembers that because it's all in your DNA. Okay. Okay. So that would be the starting point. And then you would help people go in with this energy and the energy would clear it. And then your job is to keep clearing it when it comes up, because it's a comfort kind of thing. I'm afraid of heights, so I'm never going to go up, up on something high. But if you want to heal it, or if you get caught on a tightrope somewhere, you know, you want to be able to say, Save yourself. So it was all about survival, but it's in the body. And I think this is what is becoming more clear as we move into this new time that, you know, you can fly out there anywhere. Your mind can take you out in your imagination, but it's here where the action is in your body, in the earth. This friend of mine that I met through the podcast that does medical qigong and that's what all she does is she meets with the people and she feels where in their body, their energy is stuck and she, and she clears out the stuck parts of it. And so it's just exactly what you're talking about is, but now you're talking about having done that and helps people get that cleared and then, but how did you learn how to go from. Learning how to clear people out to then. having energy flow into them. Well, that was what the whole initiation was about. It was like to make yourself open so that when you do your prep, your prayer, we'll say it that way, and you get yourself in that space to work with someone, it's like you can feel the energy coming in and, you know, it gets in your hands and then you kind of like work with someone, you know, like, like going into their body and just clearing it. And then you get a story from the angels or from your DNA about, well, what was this about? And then you notice that because of that, now you have all these different issues. It's like layers and layers. And in the beginning, it was like a big process. To clear it. Every time this energy would come up again, he's like, Oh, I recognize it's here. Get it out. You know? And so you're taking control. And now we're at the point where it's just almost instantaneous. Okay. You have this now, you don't have to go through months of like you know, trying to level it out. It's just like, Oh, there it is. Just get it out. So it's like things are progressing and getting so fast, but at the beginning everything it's like when you're learning, it's like slow and, and and I did workshops all over the place, you know, with this master alignment and then and then it's interesting. So it's like you're still using it because you've got it to use, and that's the thing. It's like, you know, you can still really help people. with that. So that was a master alignment that was working with a group of very high beings that hadn't been in the earth before. And it's like, what do they know about bodies, you know? And so it's like learning how to have high frequency. And if one person can do it, everybody can do it. And it's like mediumship there, there are some classes that I took also on mediumship. And it's amazing, you sit in there and, and they say, okay, feel this and tell me what it belong, who it belong to. And you do it. You'd be amazed at what you can do. As long as you're like in this space where you're not saying, I can't do it, kind of thing. It's amazing what we're capable of and haven't even touched it yet, I'm sure. This fellow, Lynn that I spoke to the other day, he said it was so wonderful when he got into the military, when he got into a certain segment of it, he had tremendous psychic abilities and, but that interference of the world was always bothering him. And in his book and, and in my interview with him, he said one of the most important moments. Of his life really was when his instructor or the boss brought him in and he said look around this room That this in this place, it's okay to be psychic. You can just let it flow No one's going to judge you or whatever and and that and then that was it, you know Take off from right from there. And that's just what you're talking about is if you can get rid of your doubts if you can get do you think that that energy from the other side Helps you to, to get rid of that doubt. Oh, definitely. And, and, you know, you're, you're the power thing in your own life. And I think we're realizing that more and more that there's nobody out there that, that can do that. It's like you, your soul. Your higher self, and you know, the more you're able to open up to that, the more you're capable of doing and knowing, but yeah, definitely there's help from the other side, if you want to call that the higher, higher side. Right. We are at a place in the timetable of this Interview where we're getting to the end where we really need to to stop for now and start another interview. And so I want to thank you again. And as Karen went over here smirking, she's like, I can read her mind. She's saying, I, I, I knew, I knew, Charlotte was going to blow your mind, Jen. I knew she was, and I was just looking forward to seeing it. And guess what? Mind blown. Yeah. Thank you. Groovy. Groovy. We'll be back. We'll be back with some more if that's all right with you. Oh, that'd be great. It's been fun.