Broke Boyz From Fresno

Crafting Connections and Pursuing Passion

Martin M Season 2 Episode 13

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Is creative collaboration in fashion a myth?" We tackle this bold question by sharing personal stories of triumphs and setbacks in the world of trendsetting. From the exhilarating process of crafting unique ideas to the heartache of projects that didn't quite hit the mark—like a diamond graphic design that missed expectations—we open up about what it truly means to create with passion. Feedback and collaboration with those who understand our vision prove to be game changers as we navigate these creative waters.

Transitioning to content creation, we explore how to make a splash online without sacrificing authenticity. Learn from the strategies of big names like David Dobrik and XXXTentacion, and see how they've mastered audience engagement. Our discussion includes the balance required between everyday life and the demands of producing engaging content. Personal anecdotes reveal the trials of video editing, the nuances of clickbait, and the necessity of a supportive network to stay afloat in the digital space.

Finally, we reflect on the resilience needed to thrive in creative pursuits, especially when faced with setbacks like losing a creative partner. Despite the chaos, stories of financial growth and increased audience engagement paint a hopeful picture of what's possible. We dive into fascinating discussions about technology, AI, and conspiracy theories, pondering the ethical implications of wealth and power. Through it all, we encourage embracing your creative journey with open hearts, challenging the norms, and making a lasting impact.

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Speaker 1:

We done broke boys from the hood. We on them. Issues understood Won't catch us lacking. We that good, we always winning, like we should. We flying high, we butterfly up to the sky. No way you catching us. Goodbye, fear, to God. We make it out alive. I'll never leave my dogs behind.

Speaker 2:

We stick together like we signed, we shooting stars, one of a kind, or be ahead of it like it's so hard to get ahead and start something new, because and that's the one thing a lot of people don't talk about is trend setting right, like trying to start something new and hoping it pops off. You get your inner group and I'm like yo, that's hard, like that's going to pop off, and you do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it doesn't. It doesn't work, yeah, it doesn't blow up like you wanted it to. You lose inspiration, but you let somebody else do it and then you try to hop on the train afterwards and you're just like it's not selling because everybody's doing it now. So I mean trying to find that little sweet spot and creative process and trying something new is not easy, I don't know I would.

Speaker 2:

My best advice for that is to create something that you love, yeah. What you like, yeah, it doesn't matter if it's just like. You look at it and you're just like, oh fuck, they didn't come out.

Speaker 2:

If it didn't come out. Vision, truly find how you want it to look exactly. Because there was one time that we had a creative idea this was last year and he was talking about this diamond with an eye in the middle with the droopy like a teardrop right, and it to have, um, a broken heart inside the teardrop. It was something creative, right. That looked pretty cool. I like the graphic idea. And when, when I visually seen it, I was like I don't know if I don't, I don't know what it was, it just wasn't, it just didn't work out, yeah. And then, uh, I just told him I was like it could be fucking random shit, bro, just say it, it is what it is. Um, the more creative things that we can brainstorm, get together, the more stuff that we can create exactly. And, um, in the beginning, when I made the first broke boys low, I made it off canva and I created it. And then I sent him like four different options and he looked at it. He was just like they're all good, bro. Yeah, I was like, okay, but I'm not looking about you complimenting. Yeah, I need to tell me. Tell me what you don't like, tell me what you want to envision.

Speaker 2:

That's the important thing of having a creative team, so that way you guys are all on the same page and voice your guys' opinion. Be like nah, I don't fuck with this, or nah, I don't like this, switch this, or you know what this would look better. If it is to your guys's liking, do it, yeah. But don't do it and be like all right, toss it never. Toss it to the side right, keep going on, keep building off of it. That. That is great advice and that's what we did with with the shirt we showed you right now. Yeah, and that's another thing. Like you want to find the person that's going to be dying your stuff. Like you want y'all to be on the same wavelength. I have a friend that he has one already. He has a clothing brand already and at this point he literally just types it out like, texts it to him I want this, this, this, boom. He sends it to him. He's like perfect, just tweak two things. We're good, exactly, and it's just like I want that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, having that on your team is one of the things that, like, is not easy to do, trying to find somebody that has the same creative mindset as you were, like he said. You can tell him like, hey, I want this, this, this, this. It comes out and colors are popping, the design is right, the right font, everything, bro it's not easy to find no and him will think like that together yeah, but none of us do design work do like yeah, yeah, we don't do creative or digital, uh creation, so, unfortunately, like I can try something like that.

Speaker 2:

But, bro, it's like you remember on on black ops, when people used to design their the emblems. Yeah, it's like getting that one dude who got over a thousand characters on there. He then spent three hours designing it and you got me and it's just two guns and a skull and different colors, smiley face yeah, literally, literally Six-page template, that's it. But that's that the whole creative or like graphic stuff, bro, we watched Art Boy do it and we're like what are you doing? And they do it like nothing. Yeah, short keys are already added in. They know how to. Bro, it's a lot. Can you change this color like a little darker or switch these two colors? One key Switch, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I get you on that, I get you on that. It's the same thing for me, like there's certain stuff that I'm just like when it comes to the creative aspect of what I want and what I visually see I need. I need it to be written down, I need it to show like all right, this is how I want it, this is how I'm very particular about certain details. I'll pay attention to the smallest details and working with uh, with leo, he always makes sure like, okay, let's get on the same page, right, tell me what, tell me more exactly. And I tell him and boom, he creates it just the way that, that he envisions it in the way that I envision it, and we get on the same page all the time, right. So that's the important thing is to to finding something that you can, you can build off of and and and have that that relationship.

Speaker 2:

Uh, shirts getting into clothings it is a difficult fucking market, for sure, and I think that's one thing a lot of people don't talk about. People don't talk about how hard it is to have an audience that gives you actual, genuine feedback. It's one thing if you're asking the homies like hey, what do y'all think about this. And then they're like yeah, that's good, bro, and then that's it. If you get homies that are like, yo, I'm not gonna lie, you should probably use a different song. Or oh, maybe cut it here, do a fade in, fade out, do a different intro, stuff like that. When you get in depth, like that, that's when it really helps the most, because you can see where your errors may have been, what's more pleasing to the eye, and things of that sort. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie, there's been a lot of times where I've dropped something and I'm looking back at it like something's off. And the homie's like, bro, I'm not gonna lie, you probably should have just scrapped this whole intro and just let it as is.

Speaker 2:

And I'm like, dude, I don't know, he didn't have that. Yeah, I'm like bro, why did I? It was like he sent me the real with two different songs. I was was like, not going to lie, I know what you're going for. Yeah, what you ended up going for in the end. I was like but this one sounds better. And he was like yeah, but everyone sang this one. I was like I'm just telling you my opinion, you can do what you want. And he did the one that everybody else said yeah did not blow up. Yeah, he was like, yeah it, but if you would have used the other song it probably would have been and the thing was then you never know. No, you know it's a gamble.

Speaker 2:

It's a gamble with different audiences too, because, especially working on two different platforms like instagram and tiktok, have two different like feelings. Right, so definitely tiktok, for, like the car content is more like I'm not gonna say edgy, but it's fast paced and they like static stuff. They love seeing cars scraping on the ground, aggressive music songs with aggressive beats on it and different types of graphics. Right, you're on instagram. It's more or less like calm stuff, quick, don't make it more than like 15 seconds, kind of. How would you describe it?

Speaker 2:

like effortlessly yeah effortless, exactly not a bunch of likes like uh, transitions in the video, stuff like that. So trying to find out the algorithm for both applications and then feed both audiences good quality work is like it's difficult once we start implementing youtube. Yeah, youtube is a that's. That's like creating an actual movie. You're like so much more.

Speaker 2:

There's like just so much more things to it yeah thumbnail title, the way intro, the intro, the outro, and then also you have to. You can vlog it, right, but then you also have to make a reel inside of the video that you're already vlogging. And then with youtube is you have to know that there is no set algorithm, exactly like how it is on who's interested? Come on, bro, everything is just dumb luck. Yeah, I'll watch people that are like there is no set algorithm, exactly Like how it is on TikTok. It's too interesting. Come on, bro, I really think it's just dumb luck. Yeah, I'll watch people that are like just to see, like that we're trying to do it. I just watch different things, different popular things. It's like, bro, how is this even popular? Yeah, how are y'all blowing it? But TikTok is the same way. It's just dumb luck. Tiktok is the same way.

Speaker 2:

I've seen a lot of people blow up on car TikTok. I'm like, bro, this is a stock Ford Fusion slammed on the floor, but the edit is clean and he's got over 100,000 likes. I'm over here doing this work on CapCut raw editing and I get 100 likes. Maybe you know what I'm saying, but I think it is just dumb luck A lot of the time. If you have a supportive background. You've got a lot of like sponsorships. You've got a lot of people who are, you know, willing to put you out there and get you out there if you're known already. That's where it's at, yeah, and obviously in social media content creation and stuff, your best bet is knowing a lot of people. If you can network easy, you'll blow up easy.

Speaker 2:

And that's what you guys were talking about on the other podcast. Like you were saying, the other podcast, they already had a following and then they were like, oh, let's just make a podcast, people are going to watch it, because they already have a following. Yeah, that's the hard thing. Even when I looked at inspirations for vlogs, everyone always got on me do vlogs, yeah, do vlogs, just fucking.

Speaker 1:

just start doing vlogs I say it like it's easy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they say like it's fucking easy to do but it's so fucking intimidating, yeah, sometimes. And then sometimes I'm just like I'm not even fucking entertaining enough. And then and then I look at some of the most successful vlogs and there's people that have a whole group, right, and they make it all entertaining, right, and I even look back at like, uh, for example, david joe brick yeah you look at any of the videos that he did, it didn't make any sense, right?

Speaker 2:

no, not at all. There were small skits that didn't make any sense at all early on.

Speaker 2:

They're literally videos of. It's a video of little videos of them doing dumb shit. Yeah, yeah, that's that's all it was, and I was like if there was a way that I can get into a squad and we can all get into the same page and we all do the same thing and maybe even build off to something similar to his, because his, I think what caught everyone's attention was it was only four minutes long, yeah, that's sure, and it was so short and it got people's attention to the point where it was like hold on, I want more yeah.

Speaker 2:

And that's how X made his songs Exactly. He explained he was like all my songs are short because I want you to listen to them and then wanting you to want more. Yeah, you have to tease the audience. That's one thing. I wish I was playing mind games yeah, literally. But there is definitely a form of I don't want to say manipulation. There's a form of what's the term, not psychotic, but like bro, I can't think of the word right now I'm starting to write. That's killing me. Yeah, at this point.

Speaker 1:

Mind control.

Speaker 2:

No, it's almost like a form of manipulation, but like You're talking about, like brain route, like how TikTok videos they have that or it's catchy, but then it's another video, but it's in the same video. Well, I'm saying you have to be able to manipulate the public in a sense, to be able to grab their attention and have them wanting more. And the way that Clickbait, clickbait, exactly. So you have to, you have to bait them in. It's not the exact word, but it fits. Leave me alone, leave me alone, leave me alone. So click baiting, for instance, is a form of manipulation I'm talking about yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to be able to. It's basically like just hyping your own video up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the best part of it, like the peak part of your vlog or your video, and throwing it out there and be like, yeah, people are going to watch this little short clip and want to go watch the YouTube video. Oh, clipping, that's what you're talking about. Clip farming, almost yeah, either way, once you learn that, I think that's really the key to their success. That's what I told you too. Like I want to have the YouTube channel, yeah, but then TikTok Instagram clickbait.

Speaker 2:

And that's how you get the attention to go watch the main thing Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I think any strategy that you go with, none of them are bad. Right, I think from experience, from my head, I've done this for a year now. We started off on Instagram and on TikTok. Right, we didn't do nothing with YouTube. I still haven't really fucked with YouTube, the host provider that I got for the podcast. They post shit on YouTube for me, but there's not like a whole audio or video clip, it's just strictly the audio and the audio by bed, but that's the only thing that's posted on there. Right, I don't touch it. I don't upload a video.

Speaker 2:

I know eventually when I get good, because I still got to learn how to edit. I still got to learn all this. I've been messing with that. I don't understand it, and I have a few friends that are content creators that say, oh, it's easy. And I'm like, okay, it's easy for you, but you've been doing it. I haven't been into video editing since middle school.

Speaker 2:

Some people, it does flow a little bit easier, but especially when you're doing different things in life too, yeah, like this isn't the only thing you do. You work. You know what I'm saying? Hitting the gym, you got a whole routine that you have to practice and then fit this into your schedule. It's not as easy as somebody else who has residual incomes that they can sit down and just really focus and hone in on it.

Speaker 2:

And that's the one thing I've always been proud of about you, because you've been able to balance your work-life schedule and still been able to keep schedule with the podcast, coming up with creative ideas and we talked about this before you can still work an 8 to 10-hour shift, come home and be like all right, let's run this podcast real quick. You know what you're going to talk about, you know what you want to do and you crank it out, you get it done and it's just like wow, I actually did that. Sometimes you don't even recognize it until weeks later on. You're like dude, I'm running this like clockwork. Yeah, like it's how you have to think about it. Yeah, and I lack in noticing my own development when you're killing it. And sometimes it's like people say that and sometimes I feel like, fuck, I'm not killing it yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's so much better. Yeah, sometimes I feel like, fuck, I'm not killing it, he's so much better and the thing is you want to push yourself for more so you're never going to think like, oh yeah, I'm good. No, but let's be honest with you. What's the most perfect podcast? There is none. I mean, you can say David Dobrik, but it's only because he's successful, because he's been through it for years. You got Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan how a lot of other. How many episodes this man got?

Speaker 2:

bro Joe wrote isn't it in the thousands right now, bro, yeah, at that point it's just like even, but he has a whole production team. That's why I tell myself, like yeah, like I'm not there, to that status, but I am grateful to where I'm at. Like I, I think I talked about this the last episode that just dropped. I was like shit, I have about 4 000 listeners, the instagram's finally blowing up in its own way, not crazy. But it took me a minute to be like hey, I got the listeners for it, but I don't got the following for it. Exactly to have people interact, I wish I was more of an interaction. That's why I struggled with right now. I got people that I didn't rack now, that people that comment every now, and then I got people that interact. I've got people that comment every down. Then I got people that actually follow, enjoy the page, whatever it is, and I had to learn how to fucking jump different obstacles to figure it out.

Speaker 2:

So I took a break from recording videos, because before I used to hook everything up, have the video recording like how it is right now, have everything set up perfectly, because of eventually, I was like okay, I can make reels, I can post it, get the clips, whatever it was. It got too complicated, yeah, because I was like, okay, I can make reels, I can post it, get the clips, whatever it was. It got too complicated because I was like, so busy dealing with work, dealing with other issues, dealing with family problems. There's a lot of stuff that you got to juggle within your personal life. It's just like, how do I have time to fit this? Before it was easy. Before it was just a set schedule of Saturday, no matter what recording day, right, two episodes that way I have it set for Sunday and for Thursday Set in stone. Now I barely even have any free time on Saturday or on Sunday, right, if I get lucky throughout the week.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of hard to juggle now, right, because of so much shit that goes on in life. Exactly, but it's crazy that you get those people that are truly fans, that really enjoy your stuff and really like to listen, that are actually still loyal and they still come consistently and they still listen, they still send you messages. Right, I said this the last episode. I have somebody that wants to do a cover song of the Broke Boys song. I'll show you guys a sample of it because I actually do like it. It's different. It's not the same, it's completely different. This dude also has one with Christmas music in it and I almost want to message him to be like.

Speaker 2:

I almost want to message him to be like let's push this so that we have something for christmas, right that whole month of december it's a different thing yeah yeah, and it's so crazy how many doors open for you when you're consistent, like that right, like when you first started it out, you know you're like stressing about dude, am I really gonna make it? Like this is gonna pop off and you didn't think, you just did, yeah, and now you're in a position where, like, like you said, you've earned the phone, you've got people who are fully invested into you to the point where you got your hands full. You're like dude, I got so much work now I don't even know what to do with myself, and it's good quality stuff and stuff that you've already passed the roadblocks and got to a point to where now you've got again theme music for different seasons. Do a christmas season, and the beginning of the podcast sounds like christmas, it sounds like snowing and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like that's, that's amazing, bro.

Speaker 2:

That's what I love about social media networking and content creation is that you will meet so many people who are so supportive for you that they'll help you reach the goals that you wanted to reach. Yeah, when you thought you were just going to do it all on your own, you didn't. You weren't going to have helping hands. You'll find those other people are going to be like you know what, bro? I see what you're doing. I want to. I want to help you progress. I want to help you get to this point, just because they're just that selfless.

Speaker 1:

You know what I'm saying they want to be part of it, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like, let's do this as a team, let's collaborate. And that's why I posted what I posted yesterday as well, because I said you know what, like, I barely reached 1,000 followers. I know people who don't do content creation that got 4,000 followers Is that good to me, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I'm just saying I know people who got 4,000 followers who don't do content To me. Seeing that four-digit number on my account makes me feel like, wow, this people fuck with me, whether it was just car stuff or people I knew from since middle school and it just made me want to do more and be like you know what. Y'all supported me this much and I feel like my own content creation is min. I feel like I'm not even doing enough. I've seen other content creators and it's like dude, how long did it take you to make that edit? I know like that took hours, but I wanted to start giving back because I'm not doing this for nothing. I want to make a positive outcome for this, absolutely. And so you know, collaborating with other content creators, collaborating with people starting services like eyelashes and people who are mobile mechanics let me know if I made it because y'all supported me, because y'all shared a reel I made, or y'all really thought my car was cool and said, hey, I'm gonna pull up to your guys's car meet. I really fucked with y'all. Yeah, bro, I'm gonna put you on the map too with me, because again you helped me get on the map I'm gonna have. I'm gonna make sure you're gonna eat at the same table as me. Exactly, I'm the same way. If anybody were to reach out to me to do some collab or some sort of business or hey, can you push this? Absolutely, I'll help you with anything Before.

Speaker 2:

Like I said this before, I only had 100 followers last year. I look at where I'm and they're not nothing. It's just like it's still the same. It's still the same. Like I'm still the same motherfucker. Like I'm still. Yeah, like I'm still willing to help anybody out. Yeah, I don't know anything. I'm still learning. I'm still developing social connections. I'm still developing how to edit, I'm still learning new things, right, but it doesn't change the way that I think and what I want to do for everybody, it's to support one another, exactly so any any type of help will will fucking lead you, uh, to the right path, right? If I had, like it's, you see the following and then, and like your instance, you have a thousand followers. If you had a thousand followers that repost your on a daily basis, you know how quick, like everything, would get the algorithm.

Speaker 2:

It's just insane of of what are what the following community, yeah, but sometimes you don't get all thousand people to share, to reply to, and that's that's the good and the bad. But it looks good on when people look at your profile because it's just like oh shit, he has a thousand followers yeah, compared to like, oh, he has a few hundred, yeah. Then that's when when people start paying attention a little bit more exactly. I even noticed it too. I got the blue check mark, yeah. Yeah, people are like oh, who's this guy?

Speaker 2:

now that, yeah, yeah, I had people fucking message me randomly and be like hey, like um, is there any way you can send me, like, some money or something? Hey, yo, and I'm just like yo be cool. Yeah, I'm just like, hold on, I haven't seen you in years and now you're gonna be. Say that there's sometimes that there's wholesome people that I'll see, I'll see people at the gym and they'll come up to me like hey, I've listened to your podcast, like that's crazy, I love what you do, thank you for everything that you do, and they self-express themselves. Yeah, and I tell them like hey, thank you for for listening, thank you for the support, and occasionally you some people would be like hey, man, like you know, you should talk about more different things and stuff like that. I take the feedback as it is.

Speaker 1:

I'm kind of feedback. You're a good feedback, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's certain people out here who aren't like content creation. They are afraid of getting that feedback Like constructive criticism. For one. Yeah, you have to be open to constructive criticism because if you're not, bro, you're not, you're not going to go nowhere, you're going gonna be like, you're gonna be like no, I don't want to listen to that like. No, I know what I want. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's why, again, for an example, with when julian told me, hey, bro, you should probably do this one, and I looked at it, I said, okay, let me test this out. I posted the version he wanted me to post on tiktok and then I posted the other version that I wanted on instagram. There was another one I had in the background. I didn't post.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was like I really want to use this one but it's not going to work, bro. The one on TikTok popped off and that was the one Julian told me to post, damn. And I looked at it through like a random person, exactly Because the first one was rock music. Okay, yeah, it looked good with the video, but how many people are gravitating towards rock music Exactly? And that's more personalized towards me, because I like alternative rock, I like different types of stuff, but for somebody who is just random, just looking through, like oh yeah, this song with this video yeah, yeah, it looks hard yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I mean that type of constructive criticism. It doesn't have to be like oh I'm not gonna lie, bro, your car is just trash, like you definitely should quit like nah, it's more or less just being able to be like I'm gonna be honest, but I think this song would work a little bit better, and being able to take that in it will help you out a lot more, because it's like okay, maybe for the next time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this didn't work. Maybe I need to be more outside of tunnel vision and be able to view out different perspectives, because when you're tunnel vision, sometimes you lose yourself in your own character and your own creations. Sometimes the audience doesn't need that you know what I'm saying, but or don't need that. But, um, I had to correct myself. Um, but the world of content creation is insane. I I will say that it's taught me a lot more than I imagined, because I thought it was just hey, create a video. People don't think this is art, like no, no, it's so much deeper than that.

Speaker 2:

From what I learned from. My thing is and I talked about this the last podcast I mean you had is how to fit my audience, where to find my audience, and obviously in most of my podcasts I speak about self-love and I talked about that journey. So then I started just making reels for myself on my page. People don't have to like it, but that's just what I wanted to do, because I knew I wasn't going to be posting any more reels of the podcast because I had to take a break for it, so it took a minute. Wanted to do because I knew I wasn't going to be posting any more uh, reels of of the podcast, right, because I had to take a break for it, right, so it took a minute. This is the first time that I actually whooped out the camera to be like all right, let's do it. Right, let's break it up the glass case, yeah best of all yeah case, but it's just like.

Speaker 2:

It was just exciting to be like all right, you know what I'm bringing. It it's a special occasion, let's do it, yeah, and to do it all over again. It's just, it's exciting. And I thought about it at the time. I was like, what the fuck was I going to do to keep people? I can't keep posting pictures of myself, right, because then people are just going to be like, oh, whatever, right, you know you have to change.

Speaker 2:

But I would say what you were doing, yeah, you're posting about yourself, what you're going through, but there's a lot of people World related, yeah, that's why, bro, when I reposted one of them, I had so many people liking it and I was like dude, he struck the algorithm for sure, because there's a lot of people going through personal things. And one thing I will say about our generation and just people in general they don't like to post how they feel or their personal emotions or what they're going through on social media, but they'll like this stuff, they'll comment on it. You know what I'm saying. Some people feel embarrassed to express themselves because they're like oh, I don't want my followers knowing I'm going through this or I don't want people seeing, dude, you're doing great.

Speaker 2:

A lot of those messages touch a lot of people and a lot of those messages were just messages for myself. Yeah, exactly, just be like you know what I'm going through, what I feel, how I see things, and just I create my own little things. I use Capco yeah, I cheat, so I just insert my picture, my videos and just the IT trade. But it just it worked. Yeah, and some days it gets the attention, some days it doesn't Right, but at the same time it gets my attention because this is something that I went through and something that I like. Yeah, and there's times that I know that people see it and they won't like it, but they fucking see it, yeah, and they're like they're thinking about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're thinking about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're thinking about it, because then you can see the difference, I can see how many people view it, how many times they view it exactly, and it's just like, okay, like shit, look at that lot of them. And I was just like, I love the stalkers, I love the fans, even even I would send screenshots to dj, like look, this dude's still looking at all my profiles number one fan number one fan dude.

Speaker 2:

I'm telling you it's. It's insane how, when you reach peak success or when you're progressing yourself in life, the people who doubted you, the people who didn't want to see you and stalk you the most Like it's. I don't know if it's a thing of envy, I don't know if it's jealousy, I don't know what it is. But, bro, even for me, like, I'll make reels, I'll post certain things, and people who I'm not even friends with no more, they don't follow me Look at my story and I'm just like but at the end of the day, it's like you know what, maybe I'm the inspiration they need. Maybe maybe they're trying to get out of their rut and they're constantly thinking about the situation, like they want to apologize. They can't. Yeah, regardless of the situation, I just think there's so many good things that come out with what you do that still are unrecognized like. There's other stuff that you do that people want to say to you that, like bro, you've helped me a lot. Like these podcasts probably, like really do help people get off their edge or help them out when they're in the gym, like when julian first told me he was like yeah, I listened to the podcast when I was working out, I was like for real, like you, you were, bro. There's times where I'm just I get surprised too because I'm like you be listening to my number, like to me it's like when you're in the situation and you're doing it to know somebody else is watching what you've created and they genuinely enjoyed it, they're like like, damn, like I really did that. Yeah, it feels good, man, it is a wonderful feeling and it is indescribable. You feel so grateful, even when I get certain fan mail. I get those emails. It won't show me everyone's full number, it'll just show me fan person number, their last three, four digits of their number, right, and it's just a message of like, thank you for that episode, man, you really inspired me. You me inspired to be better.

Speaker 2:

Um, some of the rappers that I had before uh, rock star turtle, he constantly is just like dude, you motivate me every day. Yeah, he's just like because your schedule's insane and you still figure it out for the podcast, right. And then I I I think I told cat this. Um, I was like I look at the numbers now for season two compared to season one, right, season one was 100 episodes. Season two, I'm barely at 11. And I'm just like man, what the fuck? But then again, like there was different. There was so much creativity the first season, right, and there was so much of like I was in a different era at the time Right, I was still a different era at the time. Right, I was still looking for a job. I was still like trying to find my own way and try to pave my own path, right, and obviously the other guy had so much fucking free time Right, so Content was pushing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So content was pushing, everything was pushing and eventually, like I was like now this is completely solo. Now I completely detached on certain things because I want to perfect certain things before I can publish it. Right now it's like not half-assed, now it's doing it the way I want it right. So that's how I saw it. Yeah, and it's like I I had a few people like bro, like, post it on youtube, no matter how shitty it is, post it on youtube. And it's just like nah, I didn't want to post anything shitty for somebody that deserves something that's good. Right, at least to be good exactly, not to be perfect, because nothing's going to be perfect exactly, but at least for it to be good and entertaining to put out there. There's been episodes that I fucking sat here for two, three hours and I completely trashed them because they were just the energy wasn't there, that just wasn't good and um, and it just wasn't to my liking. Right, it wasn't like before. Before I would do the episodes and then be like, ah, this one's kind of mid, ah, fuck it, post it. But I never listened to it being perfected or it being good, I just did it, just post it.

Speaker 2:

This time it's more of like, nah, this is, this is my rebuilding area, right, this is this is. We're gonna perfect it this time. We're gonna have a good, we're gonna have a set right, because at the end of the day, I'm I'm getting a check, yeah, I I'm getting paid, yeah, so why am I going to? Why am I going to do that to people? That people deserve better? Exactly, so that's just where, where it's at with with Vyvor, you're more, on the face of now, quality over quantity.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, it's like working when you first start the job. You're trying to rush through things. You're trying to learn the process. You're like, all right, I'm gonna speed through this real quick. But once you learn the trade, you're like, okay, I gotta produce quality work. I'm not getting paid for nothing. I know how to do it right, let me sit down and do it right. Yep, that reminder is really good for a lot of people, even for me alone, because there's been times where I produce something and I'm just like saying what I wanted, but I'm gonna push it out anyways. You know what I'm saying. I need to post some content just to keep active. But if you're not passionate about it, right, if you produce something and you're not whole, your whole heart isn't into it. You're not doing it right yeah that's the way I feel it.

Speaker 2:

If you're not being authentic and genuine in what you're producing, you're not doing it right. There's nothing worse than producing half half-assed content, and we're all guilty. That's a bad reflection on yourself. Yeah, we're all guilty of it. That's a bad reflection on yourself too. Yeah, we're all guilty of it. Yeah, and the audience can see that too. They're like bro, you've done way better than that. What is this shit and that's the hard part too is, after you did the half-assed work and produced it, then you're getting bad reactions and then you're just like why did I do that? And you know what I'm saying. But, like I said before, I'm proud of you because, even with the consistency of being able to still say hey, you want to come through and do a podcast episode, Bro.

Speaker 1:

That's all.

Speaker 2:

Excuse me, you want to come through and do a podcast episode Like let's do this, let's do that, like planning it out, and stuff like that. Even the planning it out and stuff like that, even the days you don't want to do it the most like, you still crank it out. You still do what you got to do, you still fit it in your schedule, right. That is something that I can't even fathom. You know what I'm saying? It's discipline, man. It's just a bunch of like. I just see this like it has to get done, cause if not audience I feel like I'm gonna lose their attention I work so hard to gain. That's how a lot of people die out too. Is that they're not consistent. Exactly yeah, and just stay on top of it. Yeah, I always stay on top of it and shit.

Speaker 2:

I remember the first time that one of my episodes had blown up and it was like 50 downloads at the time. At the time, I was only getting like 15. Yeah, 50 was like. Oh shit, yeah, that's a completely different number. Yeah, yeah, we were like.

Speaker 2:

And then I looked at the map because they showed me the map on the post provider, right, and it was like to the UK. It was out to like fucking what is it? London, like fucking Spain, like different, almost worldwide, and I'm just like I never would imagine that people from the Netherlands, you know, australia, I mean random fucking places Canada, like I wouldn't imagine that it would go all the way out there, right, but people do listen and that just motivated me more at the time. And there was moments where I'm not even gonna lie to you. There was moments where we couldn't get on the same page, con, like with content, wise and like figuring things out right, and it would be hard when somebody is it fully in it yeah, yeah, because then it's just like oh, bro, come on, like, give me, give me something to work with, and you're not giving me nothing.

Speaker 2:

You have to push him and it'll never work. I don't know, dude, there was like mindset. I don't know if I told you, but there was like four episodes that I don't remember. I completely just had to tarnish because it was just like bro, what are you doing?

Speaker 2:

My whole thing was and I say this to anybody that starts a group, anything that starts a duo or a group you want to split the work evenly, exactly, you want it to work together. You don't want one person to be carrying the weight and the other one isn't doing shit, right? So he wasn't working, I was. I wanted him to have a little bit more responsibility than me having to take care. He's got all the time, yeah, might as well, and yet he's still just like, if he was fully in it, he would have picked up on that, like, okay, he's doing this and this and this. Yeah, I'm not doing shit. Like, let me help him out. Let's split the workload, let's push it. And that's the mindset of somebody who's fully into it. Yeah, the half in, half out. You can't have that around you, bro, because it just does, it just doesn't progress, and you'll see it within the content. You'll be like dude, why does this episode not feel right? Why is it not popping off? Why is it? And you, you read back and you listen to those podcasts and you're like bro, I, I carried all conferences. It's real man and and I'm glad that you know, things happen the way that they did because, again, look at you know you're blowing up and all he can do, all he can do, is watch, sit back and enjoy the season. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

But that's a missed opportunity on his part, but yeah, it was just, it was so hard. Yeah, because I don't know if I told you this, but there was one time that we literally told him. I literally told him you're in control of these, the next two episodes. I remember that, yeah, you have to produce them, you have to all that, all that. I drive all the way up to the mountains. This dude Nothing, nothing, wow, no content, no, nothing whatsoever. We were supposed to do something with his family, involving his family. His family ain't even there. He didn't even tell them and I was just like you didn't tell them. He was like well, I told them, but they left. I was like what do you mean? Yeah, I was like I drove all the way out here to be there.

Speaker 2:

Like you knew, I drove out there, yeah, like you knew we had a production going on and that type of stuff too. Bro, it's just, I wasted a lot of time, I wasted a lot of money, effort on to something that that he eventually was just.

Speaker 2:

He didn't want he entered yeah if I established me and I drove up there and all that happened. I'm gonna leave away with something. I'm just saying, bro, like yeah, like I'm just not, I'd like to just start. All right, bro, yeah, yeah. And I kind of remember that part when you guys started doing that, because you told me you're like bro, like he's not showing up for episodes, he's lagging, like I don't know what to do at this point Like it's broke boys. It's supposed to be a group thing, it's supposed to be a duo, it's supposed to be a team. You know what I'm saying? And it's just like everything that we talked about and said everything that he talked about. He said his ambition, his reputation, right, that shit's up.

Speaker 1:

That shit's up Good night.

Speaker 2:

But it was just so hard, yeah, and I think I told you this earlier I think everything played out the way it was supposed to. Yeah, everything happens for a reason and it sucked, sucked. You went through it, you go through it, you, you, you sit back and you just let it fucking hit you, yeah, and you fucking catapult forward. Then I, like, I told you, every setback is a setup for the greatest comeback right, and I was patient for it. And even when I first got my first check from from the host pride rider, from sponsors, from subscribers, when I got that first check, I was like shit, the wake-up call.

Speaker 2:

that's why this is, this is, this is real this is what I was waiting, this is what what we, what we were waiting for, yeah, and it happened just in the nick of time where he had already catted but he jumped ships. He was like, nope, I'm, I'm done with you. Yeah, okay. Then the next like three months leading up to the end of the season, that's when I got my first check and then I thought about it, and you know what the fucked up bit the thing is, bro, is I thought about it. I was like fuck, this could have been our first. We could have split it right down the middle, the cost of the equipment, everything you spent to get into this in general, and now it's paying off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's doing the part that he didn't do, and to me, I think that's the craziest part, like the amount of carelessness that has to be there to be able to completely disregard somebody else's genuine goals and dreams. Right, if, and and I say that because, obviously, in the group setting we talked about, we should start a podcast like I'm really, I really want to do this. This is something I really want to do from that moment you first introduced that idea or you first introduced the goal of all that, and he's saying oh bro, that'd be a great idea. That's the feedback we were talking about earlier. Just called him professional bullshitter yeah that.

Speaker 2:

That's the, that's the half energy that you were talking about, yeah, where you need somebody who's genuine about it. Unfortunately, he faked it and didn't make it, and I'm just like I said, I'm just glad that you've gotten past all that because, bro, you went through a lot and a lot of other people probably would have stopped as soon as you guys split. A lot of people would be like you know, I'm not doing this, no more. I'm getting my money back. I'm selling this equipment you pissed off about. Well, I'm not pushing anymore.

Speaker 1:

I feel like that's how you took it. That's exactly how I took it. It was harsh.

Speaker 2:

No bullshit. It was hard. It was rough because I didn't know what to do, and it's not like I was struggling with the equipment or figuring out how. I already did the editing. I did everything. Social media-wise.

Speaker 2:

It was more the aspect of, like I don't got no more creative ideas. I don't got a creative, uh, you don't have someone to bounce off of. Yeah, and I didn't have a co-host anymore. I lost my co-host, yeah, so who do I get? Do I find a replacement? Do I figure it out on my own right? And god was telling me this the other day. She was like why don't you do more episodes by yourself? I was like you know how fucking hard it is to sit there and talk to yourself. I was just like but some of those episodes that I did by myself actually I actually did pretty good, yeah, but what I? I do not like sitting there and having a conversation with myself. Sometimes, exactly I mean to be honest with you, though like would you rather make a or make a podcast episode? Yeah, dragging somebody else in the topic and then just agreeing with you, or just one by yourself?

Speaker 2:

that's true, because they're basically the same thing yeah it's just having another body there to say something exactly, and so I mean the the creative aspect of it. Bro, this is everything. Everything happens for a reason and everything's gonna go your guys's way. You just got to be willing to put, put in the put in the work and it's all gonna pay off for sure. But back to what you were saying about splitting the workload, like that's the conversation me and dj has had about the clothing brand. I was like me and you will both come together for the designs and.

Speaker 2:

I'll worry about manufacturing the clothes. You'll worry about the media side. We'll just let it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and that's just how it has to be. I mean finding that equal balance. And then you know, being honest, talking and having open conversations. I tried my best to have open conversations, even with them, but anytime that it became open, it was more like yeah, yeah, no worry, I'll work on it. Oh, yeah, I'll do better. But nothing came of it. Like, as long as you guys can both have that open conversation and both equally be like all right, you know what we're a team. I feel like this I'm gonna do my best to work on it and then check each other right, because I felt like I checked them so many times. He wasn't checking me. I was like, dude, push come to shove, yeah, no matter, tell me that I'm wrong, tell me that I'm, I'm fucking up somewhere, right, I was like that's the point, that's the aspect of the both of us growing. This is our group, this is what we, what we're trying to build on. So, having that open communication and just being honest with each other, no matter how fucked up it might be or no matter how uncomfortable it might be, honesty is the best policy.

Speaker 2:

And you know, I think that kind of goes back to what we were talking about this morning as well. Right, lessons through business or through personal experiences, like I feel like that had to be a lesson for you, right? You can't rely on anybody else to build your own success or to reach your own goals and help you get there. Right? So earlier you were telling me you know, sometimes you end up going through certain things and you're down and out for so long that it's a lesson for you to be able to stand up on your own two feet and say you know what, bro, I can't give up, I need to keep doing this. And I feel like that was one of those things where you were just like, okay, just because I don't have him, no more, am I still going to do this? Just because he's not in my corner, he's not pushing the same energy that I'm pushing, he's not helping me produce the things that I want to reach. Am I still going to continue? And you know what I'm saying. You took it as a lesson. You said you know what, I'm gonna keep doing this because this is what I enjoy. And again, look at the outcome. And it's, it's beautiful. The money started coming in, you got a better audience. That's still pushing, pushing for reviews and things of that sort, and more people are going to start hitting you up saying, hey, can we collab? Hey, can we do a part of the podcast episode? Bro?

Speaker 2:

I went on x today and people are like if people just randomly recorded the stuff that me and my group talk about or do the things that we do, we'd be famous. Yeah, and I'm just. That's why me and julian ended up getting the camera when we wanted to start vlogging, and so that's what I was just like until we lost it. Shout out trinity for deleting all the content that we recorded for all year. Oh God, his content, really. He told her to turn the power button. I said click the red button so it stops recording. She held it. She pressed and held it and that button deletes Deletes the entire thing, bro.

Speaker 2:

It was like three and a half hours worth of footage. Oh God, the heartbreak from that was insane, and it was like us at her apartment drinking, like chilling, getting ready to go out to a Halloween party. There was so many of them. But those are lessons, though. Yeah, let her grab the game. It's really interesting. I've had a few of those where you're just sitting there. I think we had like three. No, we had like a total of 10 episodes no bullshit, where we were recording and we sat here the whole time, like we're doing right now. Yeah, and the laptop don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the laptop wasn't recording at all. Oh, I remember, I remember, I think it was there for one of them, or the audio wasn't set up to the proper, to the proper soundboard. Right, I've had, I've had shit like that before. It's just like you know what? Fuck this, I'm going to bed. Yeah, that's so real bro. Yeah, but no, I'm truly glad that you guys are both starting it and start somewhere, start anywhere.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, fucking, just do it, send it.

Speaker 2:

We have some shit we got some footage so far and obviously it's going to be trial and error, because this is something me and him both haven't done. I do still shots, I do stuff with car stuff. I know how to like make reels of video like cars. It's not. That's not hard being able to sit in front of a camera and continuously talk for an hour, an hour and a half, and then chop it up and turn it into a 20-minute video. That is hard, yeah, and especially for someone who's very camera shy. If you've ever watched any of my content, I'm rarely in it, like rarely. He was doing some awkward shit, bro. I'm telling you some of these behind-the-scenes videos that me and julian have recorded.

Speaker 2:

You'd be like dj, get off the camera, hey guys. Hey guys, welcome to my no, I'm telling you but see, but even I've told you that, like, even that type of footage, yeah, compilation fucking up, yeah, yeah, bloopers, anything, all that, all that works. I mean it makes it more raw, yeah, because it makes it more authentic. It's you Ack, it's your guys' channel, and that's what I've been kind of. I haven't talked to you about it, but that's what I've been kind of leaning on making, yeah, just a video of just the clip, the funny shit, yeah, all the shit that we or shit, do it at towards the end of the year. You guys, true, log that whole year and then be like, all right, man, like this is just all of our bloopers, right, and you have two other videos right there, straight bloopers, exactly. And that's one thing that I will say is that I need to help, like, come up with more content creation ideas, because, again, I've never vlogged before. This is something new for me.

Speaker 2:

I grew up not really watching vlogs like that. For me it was just car content, people working on cars, stuff like that. But if I could by any means do any more research and be able to, like, really study, like people like david dober, because he doesn't he, I don't watch anything. Yeah, you don't watch anything. I'll show him movies, videos, people on youtube. He's like, I don't know who. None of these people are For me. That's all I do. I'm just watching, trying to figure out what works, what doesn't work. What are people doing that is working? What are people doing that's not working? That's the part that I have to keep up with.

Speaker 2:

Everyone vlogs their own way. Everyone vlogs their own how they like it. There's people that have 20-minute vlogs. There's people that have 30-minute vlogs Right, everyone does it their own way. I've never seen somebody be successful as how David Dobrik did it for four minutes, right.

Speaker 2:

So I've always based myself with, like, if I were to do vlogs, I would do something similar to that, right, because I feel like for me personally, a 20-minute vlog would be too long. It would lose my attention span. Yeah, and that's why I'm like, if I would ever do vlogs, I would do it a lot shorter, which makes it way easier, because then you're just doing small clips of here and there, here and there, right. But then it makes it harder on the editing side, because you got to set it and watch all of that. You got to have that moment to do it in 10 minutes Because you got to sit down and watch all of that. That's it no more. Yeah, or 10 minutes. It's just pros and cons, back and forth.

Speaker 2:

I think events like obviously none of the work that we're going to be producing is going to be easy, and that's the one thing people don't understand about content creation is people think it's just easy. They think it's going to roll off the tongue easy. When you're doing vlogs Like you're going to be naturally funny, bro you have to be careful about the things you say so you don't get canceled. You have to be careful about the things you record, recording other people without their consent. Copyright right, copyright's a big one, bro, and people don't understand. It's a whole process.

Speaker 2:

This isn't just something you can do on your fun time on the weekend and just successfully blow up like that. Yeah, no, this is something people have spent years practicing, months practicing if you're easy, if you're good, like that, and but nothing is possible. No, I mean, nothing is impossible. Sorry, nothing's fine. Everything is we're fine, but nothing in this world is impossible. You can reach means of success, as long as you have the time, the dedication and the energy to do it and the supportive group behind you. If you don't have a supportive background, I pray, I pray you can stand ten toes and still do what you have to do. Yeah, because other people will fall easily. Exactly, and then back to what Barnum was saying. Is the time Like if people are doing it, that's all they do, that's literally all day.

Speaker 2:

But us, it's just, we got work, we got the group like in reality we have saturday, sunday yeah or the end of friday, saturday and half a sunday, yeah, and just take, take that shit to the fullest extent. I mean, if I, if I had the privilege to vlog and to and to really sit there and be like you know what I'm gonna, I'm gonna dedicate days for vlogging and for podcasting. It would only be saturdays, right, saturdays would be free, right, because at that point it's just like, okay, I can podcast in the morning or I could take a road trip real quick and vlog that whole thing. Right, that's my thing. And you, you can necessarily. Let's say, like you guys want to vlog going to santa cruz, right, put the camera as you're driving, make a whole interaction as you're driving, as you're getting there, yeah, two and a half hours right there, yeah, when you get to Santa Cruz, pick what you want to do. I mean, you don't have to waste hell of money.

Speaker 2:

I think that's the beauty of vlogging for us, especially since we're not that far from certain cities. Right Is, you could just go. You can go a lot of places. Even the Central Valley is actually really goaded. A lot of people are just like, oh, I hate Fresno. I'm going to be honest with you Fresno is kind of goaded because you can go to the mountains in two and a half hours, two hours, not even that sometimes. You can go to the beach two and a half hours, two hours. Go to a big city, you can go to the Bay Area of traffic. Yeah, vegas is another situation, that's a whole other state. I'm never making that drive again, bro. I'm telling you that drive.

Speaker 2:

I imagine me what I had to go through. No, no, I'm never making that drive again. That trip sounded crucial, bro. We were stuck in traffic. Isn't that like a six hour drive, bro? It's Well, how long. How long is the traffic? Yeah, from here it's five and a half hours there, bro, we were supposed to get there at 5 pm, right, we didn't get there until 3 in the morning. I think that was when the semi flipped with battery was simple, oh God.

Speaker 2:

Bro K was on a 13-hour drive. He called me in the middle of it. I said, oh, we're just stuck in traffic. We'll be there by like in traffic. We'll be there by. Like it says we'll be there by three. Bro, he didn't get there till six in the morning. I said, wow, um, not doing that again. They didn't more, but why?

Speaker 2:

is well, people say that people say that the, the flights from from fresno to vegas, is cheap, cheaper than driving. I wouldn't doubt it, and I think you're only wasting like 60 bucks sometimes. Damn, as far as I remember some people making those flights. Yeah, I wouldn't doubt it, that'd be a cool little thing to vlog to. But, as we were saying before, there's so many different things you can do here in the Central Valley. You don't have to be stuck in Fresno, just do a road trip.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, go visit somewhere you've never been before in fresno, like when we had photo shoots in the beginning of our, of our uh vlogs, we would vlog that whole thing. Obviously, we wouldn't talk, we wouldn't say anything because, uh, we were still camera shy. I was still camera shy, yeah, I still am, even though I still have the fucking camera on. Yeah, um, but I'll struggle with that every now and then. So, either way, like you can make something out of anything. You just have to find it however you want to do it and what way you want to and what way you want to do it exactly. Phone is on fire, um, yeah, right, yeah, I'm glad bro, that's the fortune. Don't play me like that. Wait, we getting there, all right, we getting there the stuff that he was telling me you don't be mid-edit, it's like I gotta pause. I was like what do you mean?

Speaker 1:

yeah, but you're like phone taught.

Speaker 2:

It's going slow, bro. Let me tell you, cap cut is goaded because when you're editing on cap cut, for one it doesn't drain your battery as much and for two, it doesn't get your phone hot. I'm on instagram editing, trying to make it real. I give it six minutes, bro. I'm over here just putting the song together, trying to make sure the video clips look good, the filters right, the song starts skipping, the video's all glitching, the song's off beat. All of a sudden Phone's on fire. I'm at 6%. All of us, bro. I'm telling you it's such a process. I'm glad I got CapCut because it's an easier interface, like we were talking about earlier. But one thing about making content is, if you don't have the right equipment to do it or the right interface to do it on, you're going to struggle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I'm just glad I got to see it first person because I was just like bro, this looks so easy, like all these editing. I can do all this editing, bro. No, no, your phone restricts it. My phone said yeah, buddy, this is not an iPhone 15. You need to calm down, buddy. Well, I'm glad that all my Android products are fine, bro. I ain't got no issues with any of them. I hope your battery falls out the back tonight, dude. I mean, I can open this bitch and then have Capcom on one side, instagram on the other and foldable phone is crazy. That phone can fold too. What it's clean On that phone. Can you like hang up on people? Yeah, I can. That's crazy. Or I can be literally full phone call while it's on tablet mode right, that's wild. There's a little camera too, and it's in the screen right here now if I want to take selfies, and it's right behind all the pixels. That's actually crazy right there.

Speaker 2:

oh, okay, yeah, yeah, wow. I still think the foldable screen is insane, like whoever developed that. Have you seen the other one that they're developing? No, it's literally just a screen. The camera's right there. You can barely see it. Do you know that? I think Google has the trifold? They have a trifold now. It unfolds three different ways, bro Hot dog and hamburger Origami. I did not believe that until I saw the video of the dude actually reviewing the entire fucking phone. So it's bigger than that. Yeah, so you literally fold it like this, like in half, and then on this side, there's another one. You fold it again. The sidekick don't got nothing. On this side, there's another one. You fold it again. The sidekick don't got nothing on the train but can we talk about the sidekick?

Speaker 2:

because back in the days if you had one of those, bro you're goading, you just pull out your phone. A little flick bro. I had the old walmart track phone, one that you would buy minutes. Yeah, little ass fucking. My very first phone was, um, it was like I would like carbon fiber. It was a verizon flip phone from walmart. I think it was like 25 dollars, bro, used to get like 20 minutes every every month. I think my first phone was. I went from a flip phone to a sliding phone. I forgot what it was called. It was some Verizon generic ass. Yeah, flip button keyboard, yeah, or from that then to a Galaxy S2. In high school I had the S3. I remember that everyone else had like the fucking 5. I was on the 2, and then high school I didn't have, or I did. I had the Galaxy S Edge 7, yeah yeah, cause I had the Galaxy S Edge 7.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, because that been MLA, it cracked it. You know that girl Anyways. And then after I started making money, senior year I went and bought my iPhone. I went from the Galaxy S3 all the way up until senior year and then I got a Galaxy S8 Plus that was a goaded phone, the little fingerprint scanner on the back. I Plus that was a goaded phone, the little finger print scan on the back. I felt like I was him with that.

Speaker 2:

He thought he was James Bond, you know which one's cool. The ones that I liked were the durable fucking Galaxies, the ones that were like life-proof. Yeah, they had like the rubber borders on them. Yeah yeah, those were fucking goaded. I really liked those. If you had a Motorola Razr back in the days, you had that shit on Blackberry back in the days. Yeah, blackberry, yeah, you know they still. I don't think they make them no more, but there was a newer one. It was like this, but I had the. That's crazy. I did not know that, bro. I'm not going to lie. I saw that Blackberry had the flip phone, like the flip that was all touchscreen. Could you imagine being able to pull your phone and just flip it? I'd have to judge you a little bit. We better be 2025. Come on now, bro, I'm not going to lie to anybody. I mean, they brought the flip phone back.

Speaker 2:

Well, this one's a fold, the other's a flip. Yeah, they do have that one too. That one flips this fold, the other's a flip. Yeah, they do have that one too. They do have that. And that one. You can use the front screen too, right?

Speaker 2:

You know what I think about a lot. It's like in all the movies where they're talking about the future, we have this and that, like bro, we're so far off from that shit. We've come up a long way, not as bad as they thought back in the day. Nah, long way, yeah, not as that that they thought back in the day. No, we're going towards iRobot. We already got the Tesla robots and the bugs that have.

Speaker 2:

Y'all seen the video of them like actually interacting? Bro, that's wild, the bartender robot, but he was joking and shit with them. I was like, nah, I'm cool. I did find out that they actually did have voice actors behind behind the scenes that were acting it out for some of the previews, but a lot of them don't have voice actors. Now I'm just saying it's a little too crazy how it's way too close to irobot, because if you watch the movie and you realize it the other day after that, I was like, yeah, a little too close, wait up, hold on because when, if I'm not mistaken will smith walks into his mom's house, he was like why you got that robot up in here and he was talking massively.

Speaker 2:

The robot was doing the exact same things as Elon Musk wants for the robots to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Just a helping hand Picking up the mail, going running errands, flowering or what Flowering, watering the flowers oh, I'm so sorry. Chat with the T-Line. Please be patient with me. Me and my speech have gone through a lot, um. But yeah, I mean, the robot is really spot on to what I robot was like and I just don't understand why is it that when people with money, people who are in higher places, right, they often tend to go into those types of realms where it's just like all right, let's, let's, let's push the limits. That's probably because they got the money to do it anyway, but what do you it makes?

Speaker 2:

sense for someone like elon, because he's been doing that shit. Yeah, well, the rock. I mean one thing, the rocket he was making for billionaires to live, and yeah, they're fucking out of space. But let's talk about the ai situation. They're already talking about how ai is basically creating its own language and talking with each other to try and like generate.

Speaker 2:

That's crazy bro, you can't control ai. It's already smarter than the human mind is, and that was the one thing that everybody was fearful for. Okay, what if they like outlearn us? They already did, yeah. So why would you want to test that out? Why would you already knew what the outcome was? We already theorized, and you created it and said it'll be alright, don't worry about it, I'm good. If iRobot becomes a thing, you're going to catch me out in Wyoming. Well, it's just insane that AI is just pretty much anywhere now. Yeah, I mean it literally is everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Instagram has AI. Yeah, snapchat has AI ChatGPT. Our text messages have AI. I use chat GPT a lot. Ain't nothing wrong with that? Yeah, there's some people that still do it, and you know what Use that shit for homework.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, real, it's crazy I wish we had that shit in high school, man, but we did have math when it was giving us the answers Like are you saw miss McPheeter, shane know that I wasn't as smart as she thought I was and then all the test answers being all quizzes, quizzes, yeah, yeah, cause it was the shit. But I just think it's crazy how far technology has come, like, even though we're not as what most people predicted us to be, with flying cars and all that other stuff and hoverboards, you know we still have come a long way, having self-driving cars, rockets now that land themselves. That's insane. That's insane. To be able to precisely get a rocket that's coming from miles, thousands of miles out of the earth and to defy the laws of gravity Right being able to come back and land right where it started from, that's insane. But that was smart on him because if you think about it, how much NASA was wasting sending rockets and then just having them just blow up.

Speaker 2:

But even in the amount of space like garbage that's orbiting the Earth, they fall back down. Sometimes there's a lot still orbiting, though. There's a ton Satellites. Not spaceship, no, no satellites, yeah, just stuff they send out of space. There's a Tesla out there flying. There it is. I remember that. Yeah, that's actually insane Aliens whipping that motherfucker right now. Did you hear that there's an exoplanet that we actually got transmissions back from?

Speaker 1:

Really yeah.

Speaker 2:

I, we actually got transmissions back from. Really, yeah, I did not hear that there's artificial lights that we created on another planet. Oh, they said it didn't take us six light years. Right, yeah, six light years to be with six light years away, but in time it was like some crazy. It's wild numbers, bro, wild numbers, but there's artificial lights, as if it's like a city that's lit up on the planet. Someone should let me be, hey travel to Earth. We can't get to you. Oh my God, I know y'all got the technology. Come on back, just warp over here, dude, mine too. Like, if we're not alone, like how hasn't nobody found us yet?

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean there's You're pretty sure fucking aliens have come to your bed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think what fucked me up once is I saw somebody post it on like TikTok or Twitter, I'm sorry. And it said what if aliens are just rich billionaires visiting Earth? That would go along with the reptilian theory low-key because they're not from Earth. But even the government confirming about alien activity the ex-Canadian something came out. It was like, oh yeah, no aliens have come here before. Yeah, but I mean, it's real. Like think about it.

Speaker 2:

We can't be the only civilization that's been able to come up and there's literally proof of another planet that can hold life. That alone is enough to be like, okay, yeah, there's other planets out there that got something going on. But and then all the shit that's been coming out now that's declassified, like all the fighter pilot scene shit. Yeah, that was crazy because a lot of people were supposed to be on hush mode, like they're on no disclaimer contracts, they can't talk about the things they see. Now that it's all coming out all the people in the early 2000s talking about UFOs and aliens and things that they saw they're like, oh, these are tinfoil people, these are people that nah, they're crazy. That's crazy, like there's proof.

Speaker 1:

And everybody quiet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, everybody's just accepting it. But that's the reason why I feel, for a lot of people with conspiracy theories, right, even the term itself was a derogatory term for people who obviously made conspiracies and were like you know what this kind of adds up. This makes a lot of sense as to why this certain situation happened and people were quick to disprove it and be like bro, go touch grass, go, go, go do something. But it's like OK. But years later on down the road they find out that they were right, yeah, and it's like OK, well, you can put a person can really sit down and put two and two together.

Speaker 2:

Life is not what it seems. There's a little bit of truth to every conspiracy. That's how it became a conspiracy, yeah, but obviously I don't know if it's media, I don't know if it's government agencies that try and disprove these certain things and say their conspiracy theories don't take them seriously, they're outside of the box, they're just at that point. You're. You're trying to disprove somebody who's actually getting on to something. That should be praised for it, for thinking outside the box, exactly. But one of the conspiracy theories that I've been seeing is what do you guys think? Do you think jay-z and beyonce are somewhat linked to the ditty uh situations. They're really close.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like they're a little too close for them not to be involved. They're as much praise as they get from other celebrities, other fans and stuff like that, like they're in fear for them. Yeah yeah, I kind of have the feeling that they have a lot to do with it. There was a theory about J Cole producing in one of his songs. I think I talked to you about it. It's everywhere. I'm pretty sure you've seen it. On TikTok, where he's talking about-.

Speaker 2:

He's talking about all the dead artists Michael Jackson, left Eye and was it Aaliyah? Yeah, and it makes sense. You know what I'm saying. But I do have a feeling that jay-z and beyonce are beyond a lot of things. I'm not the type of person who's gonna like completely disregard a theory, because you, if you sat down and really thought about it that deep, I wouldn't doubt there's some kind of connection yeah I mean, think about the jeffrey epstein situations.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bro, nobody knew about that shit until all of a sudden boom and all came out. The people who were involved in it were like wait a minute, that's many people they are. When something that big pops off and a lot of other celebrities are included into it, it just makes everybody question everything. Those theories that were coming out about certain celebrities saying, oh, they're in a group, like they're a part of the higher group, they're this, they're that. It makes it more believable. And again, that's why you can't really disregard theories, because look at it now, all of a sudden he's on suicide watch. Bro, offs himself makes no sense, bro. There's no way that. There's no way that we're just gonna dust that off like it didn't happen. And you know what I did.

Speaker 2:

It's why you don't hear anything about it no, no, I think it's wild that there was a list with epstein about people going in and out of the island and they had celebrities and I had all kinds of people. All of a sudden, you don't hear nothing about the list, no more, he's already dead. Yeah, so they're like yeah, whatever wishy-washy about it. Where's his wife? Now there's this whole list of ditty. Yeah, could they be? So I wouldn't doubt if there's similar people in those lists. Did you see how many people were like like in the Diddy case? How many people are accusing him? Yeah, it just makes me wonder what other celebrities are out there that are doing shady shit behind the back A lot.

Speaker 2:

I guarantee it's a lot, because if he has Lenny, he has plenty of the power. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, look at r kelly power, you can do whatever you mr kelly. Bill cosby, oh man, rv weinstein all these guys are all celebrities. It's so crazy how he used to idolize them like and I'm not gonna say all of us did, but like bro, back in the days growing up from a black household watching BET, seeing all these rappers, all these people trying to aim big, trying to do bigger things, and then this is how they turn out. Yeah, and it all links back to money. Obviously, jeffrey Epstein. Obviously, people like money.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's always sick shit, though, and I was talking to somebody about it. Why is it that when money gets involved in people's lives, that they always turn into these evil ways? Money gets involved in people's lives, that they always turn into these evil ways Because that's how they got the money Sometimes. But some people, also born into money, end up doing things like that Because that's how their family got money, or sometimes it's just because you know that you got the money and you got the power, so you just run with it. But people just get bored.

Speaker 2:

But why is it always negative stuff? Why isn't it just like you know what man this country's going through a lot, like I've seen I've been there, I've seen it first person like let's help this community out, let's do this, yeah, but it's always the people who have little to nothing, the people who have to come from the working class, the ones who literally busting their ass day in, day out and trying to make something for themselves, that are trying to help the community out more than anybody else. That's the one thing that seems so backwards to me. You would think the one who has a lot would do more for the people who don't, but who knows, I mean, there's a very few people that I actually see that actually will do something, that are from the high power. One One of them was Eminem. Eminem gives back back to the city of Detroit all the time, right, and just doesn't publicly say anything, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

And then you got people like famous fucking Latin groups right now that are blowing up, like there's Fuerza Regia, mm-hmm, they're fucking wholesome, Cartel, yeah, they're wholesome. They're always giving back to their fans, to their people, just because they know like hey, and that's the struggle that we go through, right, I don't know if, if a lot of people just don't like giving back, or or some people just like to take their wealth and be like well, I've earned this, this is my shit and I'm taking care of my family or my people, but I'm not gonna share the wealth with everybody, right? Who, who knows?

Speaker 1:

I would.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I would too I would too, but again, that's coming from people who had to work for their shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We weren't born with a silver spoon in our mouth. We had to work for it and I think that's why going back to the consecration conversation that we had is you cherish every moment that you go through, exactly and I think I told you this earlier too like, no matter how many times, like you're back in this position, you're back at your lowest point. You always have to remember that you're going to catapult to the next, right, you're going to move on to the next phase, no matter how hard it is, absolutely. And then another thing I don't understand is like the young people coming up. Like the young people coming up, like the youtube stars, tiktok stars they're coming up, their life's made already and they're gonna do some fuck shit. Like why you can't, why take the risk? If you're already, your life is set. There's so much more to do on this planet than doing fuck shit.

Speaker 2:

And I think just some people, just they just get the taste of glory and they just fucking run with it and they don't, they don't care about right because they think it's, it's so easy. Then some people get lucky and they get get fortunate enough to blow up and and make money and and whatever, whatever their case may be, I mean shit. I mean you see some tiktok, uh people that blow up with just one video and all of a sudden they're a social influence yeah, I just think social media, it has its pros and its cons, for sure, but sometimes it's just.

Speaker 2:

You can't just come into this business into like thinking of, like, oh, I'm just here just for the money, right, I'm just here so that way, this replaces my nine to five, right, you should find the passion of why you do it Exactly and if you do it because you really like it. Nine to five Right, you should find the passion of why you do it Exactly and if you do it because you really like it, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I love doing my podcast. I can still have 10 listeners and I'll still continue making episodes, but again, that's because that's my passion. Right, I'm going to do it Even if I wasn't getting paid. Guess what? I was still doing it. I did it for a whole year without getting paid.

Speaker 2:

Right now, this is different. Why not put more of an effort? Why not change things around? That's what we saw too. Because when I wanted to make the clothing company at first, I wanted to do it because every time I go to the store can't find shit that I like I'm like I'm gonna just make my own shit and I know I'm gonna like sell it too. Like what if other people are like you might as well sell it. And the YouTube thing was like just having fun with friends, like chilling with the homies, creating memories, creating memories, and they're like, well, might as well post it, maybe people will enjoy it and if it becomes something, it becomes something.

Speaker 2:

But if not, at least we can look back on this video and just be like remember when we did this like it's enjoyable stuff me, you know funny stories that me and joy and actually did try video creations and wanted to start on youtube challenge years ago and this was 2021 or 2020 I was like 20, 20 or 20 and we actually made a whole video, edited and everything we still till this day. We'll go back and just sit down and watch it. Yeah, because it's just like bro, what were we doing? And that's the type of stuff we wanted to create. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's the genuine part of you know, social media content creation is that you don't have to do it for the people all the time. You just enjoy yourself and do what you want to do and record it for you and still blow up off of it. And that's why I think people like David Dobrik or people like what's Homeboy's name? What the the dude who always does like crazy monster truck videos and he's always like running over shit oh, danny Duncan, danny Duncan, stuff like that. They do it because they're just like that's how I was like he's recording his life in Florida, the shit he ain't regularly do, and now he's doing, now that he has money, he's like, well, let me do this, yeah, let me do that, yeah, and he's giving back to his he every time. Cause, what was it? What was the hurricane before the one that just happened? Um, the silver, it was an H. It was with the H, cause they go in alphabetical order. Yeah, right, but he he was in LA at the time flew back to a near city and drove through Florida to go to his warehouse, get all the shit that he has and just spread it out. He went to Home Depot, bought all kinds of shit and just started spreading it out. The thing is in that situation too, if you have a business or an LLC too, you can use that as tax write-offs too.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people don't understand Just because you're making all this money doesn't mean you just have to sit there and keep collecting and spending. B. People don't understand like, just because you're making all this money doesn't mean you just have to sit there and keep collecting and spending more money. Borrow the other people's money. Yeah, literally, you get donations, you get money from what you do on youtube and other social media outlets. Bro, give back, you're gonna get it back, it's not gonna go nowhere.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, people cherish money a little too much, to the point to where they're just like, no, I gotta keep this. I I know, bro, there's millionaires out there that wouldn't give a $10 bill to a homeless person or someone who definitely needs it, because they're just like, no, I need this for my business, I need that, I could use it for my legacy. Yeah, and it's like, okay, well, we get it. But, brother, at the end of the day, let's strip you from everything. What the fuck do you have? Well, what is your character? What is your genuine persona? Right, without the money.

Speaker 2:

And people tend to forget that when they start reaching the six figure income and getting higher than that. You know and that's one thing that I pray for all my people that are into content creation, all the people who are working to become a social media influencer is someone who wants to reach the stars and make all that money or become famous, whatever it is. Don't lose yourself in it. Remember where you started from and remember the reason you started it out. And remember to give back to those who, again, were supporting you from the start, and give back to those that were there for you when you needed it the most, because the worst thing you could do is blow up and forget about those who care for you when you're at your lowest, absolutely, but just saying man, yeah, it's like a cold world out here.

Speaker 1:

That's what I've always thought about it yeah yeah, I mean shit.

Speaker 2:

If there's any anything that we can all help each other out, bro, for even for people that are listening to shit, let us know we'll fucking we're willing to help anybody out. If you know anybody that wants to hop on the podcast and just talk about their life story or anything, just let me know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Or tell them to hit me up because I would love to have them on and just to sit here and just to support them and then support me. That's how that really matters. Like I said, I'm happy to do this on the side. I'm glad that all this is a blessing. Got to support those that support you, man. Yeah, is there anything else that you guys want to say or anything important that you guys want to tell? You guys, as people that are listening, just care for one another, bro. Yeah, at the end of the day, bro, the people around you is all you got. Yeah, you lost everything. What do you have? Just the people around you. Just remember to give back to the community you rose from. There's nothing else in this life that you'll have other than that, literally, what Julian just said. Just make sure that you always give back. Do as do unto others, as you would want them to do to you. That's it, hell. Yeah, thank you, dj, thank you Julian for being here. Man, I appreciate you guys for being here.

Speaker 2:

These episodes are great. I can't wait to edit them, can't wait to finalize them and post them. They're great episodes and thank you guys for definitely coming in on a Wednesday and we're all fucking doing our own shit, man, but thank you. Thank you for being here, though, and thank you guys for supporting me, and let me know whenever you guys want to vlog, if there's anything. I here, though, and thank you guys for supporting me and, um, let me know whenever you guys want to vlog and if there's anything I can do to help you guys. Whatever, just let me know. We appreciate that. You got the support from the broke voice for sure. Thank you, thank you for the opportunity, man. It means a lot and, like I said, I mean we're here to help you out. We're we're, we're here to help, yeah, everybody. We're all here to just work. All of our shit work together. Let's just make it in this community. We got it Well for the collab, I definitely would love to work with you guys' clothing brand and your guys' vlogs too. Let me know what else we could work with. Absolutely. Thank you guys for all listening. We love you.

Speaker 2:

Don't forget to follow my TikTok and my Instagram at brokeboys__ff. Work with bro, absolutely, hell, yeah, well, thank you guys for all listening. We love you. Uh, don't forget to follow, uh, my tiktok and my instagram at broke voice underscore ff and uh go ahead. You guys can plug in your socials. Give a shout out to anybody that you guys know. Give me a follow on instagram and tiktok. At woe day, w-h-o-a-d-a-e-e. Uh shout out modified luxury crew on instagram for our car content. You can follow me on Instagram YoIsaac30s. Find me there. Thank you guys for listening. Y'all take care and y'all have a good one. Much love, peace, peace.

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