Episode 49: Olympic Selection Drama and T100 San Francisco Speculations

The drama of Olympic triathlon selections takes center stage as we analyze recent races, including Sam Dickinson's surprising win over Johnny Brownlee in Poland. We discuss the implications for British Olympic team selections and draw parallels with other nations facing similar dilemmas. Highlighting the incredible performances at Ironman Hamburg with Jackie Hering setting a new American Ironman record and the resilience of athletes like Kat Matthews, who continues to support peers despite her DSQ.  We also preview the T100 race in San Francisco. With insights into the impact of cooler weather on performance and predictions for top competitors. This episode is packed with excitement and anticipation for the next big race.

Takeaways

1. Triathletes face various challenges during races, including equipment issues and unexpected setbacks.
2. The selection process for the Olympics involves considerations of experience, performance, and potential contributions to the relay team.
3. The pro series standings are impacted by race results, and the competition is fierce as athletes strive to earn points for the season series.
4. The sportsmanship and resilience of triathletes are evident in their support for each other and their ability to bounce back from tough race experiences. Insights into the T100 race in San Francisco and the stacked field of athletes participating.
5. Discussion on the Ironman Pro Series and the challenges faced by athletes in various races.
6. Insights into athlete performance, equipment testing, and race strategy.
7. Exploration of the competitive landscape and the strategies of top athletes in triathlon races.
   
   Chapters
   
   00:00 Triathlon Training and Race Experiences
   17:41 Olympics Selection and Pro Series Standings
   32:38 Sportsmanship and Resilience in Triathlon
   34:40 Insights into the T100 Race and Stacked Field
   36:32 Challenges and Strategies in the Ironman Pro Series
   47:05 Competitive Landscape and Race Strategy
   
   

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:03

Welcome to another triathlon podcast, the podcast that brings the electrifying world of triathlons right into your headphones. Journey into captivating conversations, share the excitement of race recaps, enjoy the humor only a triathlete would understand, and join us as we debunk myths and bring you the bare, thrilling truths of the triathlon world. So feel your heart pound, breathe in anticipation and get ready to dive into the world of triathlon. This is another triathlon podcast. Enjoy the ride.

Speaker 2: 0:41

We are back with another triathlon podcast brought to you by mana apparel, and we are so excited, as always, to chat about everything going on in the triathlon world and something very cool coming up. We are approaching our 50th episode. Stay tuned for that one. I can't believe it has already been over a year of talking triathlon every week with my awesome co-host, josh and fede, and we can't wait for a few years more and hitting that 100 mark. But I am joined today by Josh. Hopefully Fede may join us at some point here. But Josh, how are you doing today?

Speaker 3: 1:14

I'm doing great. It's crazy that we've already got 49 episodes here and our 50th episode we've got a special guest for everyone, so enjoy that. And uh, been quite the ride and I feel like we're all learning new stuff every week and there's so much more that keeps keeps coming up and got to learn it. So we appreciate everyone who is tuning in and listening and the feedback we've gotten. And it's been pretty awesome for me being the newbie um in this whole thing and being able to be part of it, growing within the sport. And I had probably one of my best swims ever this evening in my brand-new monoparel DeBoer swimsuit so I had to get that thing loosened up for my next 70.3 this weekend at Ironman 70.3, western Mass. So I got my first of two swims in the wetsuit loosened up and had probably my best hundred times and uh, it was it. It's fast for sure. It definitely, definitely helps the people like us who need a little extra help. And, uh, I got in and it was like you jump in and you try and get a little sink down to the bottom and stay down the bottom level, get the breath going, and I couldn't even do it Like it just started, so I got this is going to be a good swim, um, it was great. And I had a kind of a day off yesterday. I got to be my uh I get to pretend I was fed and went and golfed and, uh, had a great, great golfing after a half marathon on Sunday and a ride with Christian Vandevelde at Peloton, which was amazing. So just a really cool packed week. Had an awesome training week the week before staying healthy and went out and did a half marathon with no intentions of setting PRs and left the phone at home and just kind of went out and enjoyed the scenery and the race and had a specific pace that I was supposed to stay at, but it was more heart rate based than anything and not pushing it and we had I was able to run about 15, 16 seconds faster than what we had planned and keep the heart rate where it was supposed to be. So really cool day, um, and great finish at the athletic brewing.

Speaker 3: 3:28

Uh. Fairfield half marathon. That was some really fast one. I think the runner, the winner, was like 107. Um, that's awesome. Some good hill training for springfield too, because there's some about six, seven hundred feet of elevation in uh western mass on the run course, so get some good training there. There were some decent hills on this course and able western mass on the run course, so get some good training there. There were some decent hills on this course and able to work on my breathing and staying relaxed and it was just a fun weekend. And uh, and I got to ride with christian vandenberg man that was next level in peloton studios, not out on the road, but uh, his training, his, his method and if you you've listened, you know we've had Matt Wilbers on and what he thinks of Christian and that crew. It was a really cool experience to be a part of. So we hopped down to New York City and back that night on Sunday and worth every minute and every penny.

Speaker 2: 4:18

That is very cool to hear. It sounds like it was a lot of fun and quite the variety. Now, is your golf game closer to Fede's ability level, or mine?

Speaker 3: 4:28

no, no, no. Well, yesterday it was definitely closer to finish. I don't nearly get to play as much as he does. If I can get out more than once a year, it's a good year. We, I mean as triathletes. I was talking to the guys I was playing with. There was a bunch of co-workers and it was a um, a fundraiser for melanoma um foundation, and I was there with, uh, two other groups from our company who were a big sponsor of the event, and it was just fun to go out and kind of have no, um, I guess, expectations of myself other than to try and hit some good balls. And next thing, you know you're hitting a lot of good balls, but we were playing as a team, so it also helps relax you. You're not going for your own individual score too. So I had a much better day than I thought I was going to have and the guys were all like, wow, if you could actually play this more, you'd actually be pretty good, but divorced.

Speaker 2: 5:26

There's no way you can have triathlon and golf. I don't know how petty does it no it just. That does not work with the family.

Speaker 3: 5:29

You cannot do both absolutely not, and, uh, I am happy with the balance that I have right now. Grab a, grab a round of golf once or twice a year, and that's that's good for me how you feeling going into the 70.3 I'm excited.

Speaker 3: 5:44

Uh, it's bubble wrap week and try and just stay, stay healthy. And I I had my bike, dropped my bike off before I went down to connecticut for the race this weekend and got that back from my buddy roy. Um, all tuned up, got a new chain on and put the bars out another two centimeters. Uh, just based off of my last long ride outside, I just felt a little cramped up and probably in the transitions back and forth from ocean side the bars didn't get back to where they were meant to be. So tighten those up, move them out a little bit.

Speaker 3: 6:19

Felt great riding around after I picked it up and got a few other little nooks and crannies figured out and dialed in and I'm ready to go on the bike, ready to go on the swim and the and the run. Just that's the confidence level on the run to be able to to push faster than I have both times out in Oceanside. I know I can run faster. So that's come along and really it's just as long as the water temp stays below 77 and yeah but, I think today I saw 73.9 um and turning up.

Speaker 3: 6:57

We're supposed to. It's supposed to be a little warmer the next couple days, but then starting to cool off a little bit and get a couple inches of rain too, which will help raise the river and bring the current up a little bit too. So I'm ready to go. I'm just excited to do this whole course.

Speaker 3: 7:15

Last year I did just the bike, so I'm familiar with most of the bike course. They did change it a little bit, actually for the better, and there's some good climbing and I know I can climb and handle ocean side. So this is about that. And uh, and then the runs in the shade. So it's just a matter of uh, fueling correctly and and going and I got a big, big order of all my fuel on its way and I'll be restocked and out to western mass saturday and uh, get my check-in, drop my bike off and then back. Same thing I did last year back for my daughter's dance recital and then back to springfield that night. So an hour and a half, couple times out and back and uh, I just feel good, healthy, and I just I'm totally blessed to be able to to race again in good condition.

Speaker 2: 8:01

So it's like that, that's the biggest thing just feeling, feeling good, getting to the start line healthy, mentally fresh and ready, just to see what you can do.

Speaker 3: 8:10

That's the best part and we got a few mono teammates out there too, so it'll be cool to to be with some teammates and the new kits, and, uh, I finally get to wear my, my, my kit and the wetsuit and, uh, I'm gonna be all decked out for this weekend. Ready to go fast, won't?

Speaker 2: 8:25

be able to miss. Yet you know if you look good, you feel good and you go fast.

Speaker 3: 8:30

And there's no passing zone, so I don't have to worry about that DQ. We'll talk about that a little bit more later. So how about you? I've seen some longer rides and you getting a little bit more dialed in on the bike and your new kit and all that. So that was a heck of a transition uh story. You put up a reel, you put up on that new kit yeah, I had some fun with that.

Speaker 2: 8:54

Yeah got the uh on the mana elite team this year so I got a speedy kit going in and kind of the really cool thing with the mana kit was I was able to decide which fabrics and basically textures I wanted for the lower body and the upper body. When we went to Texas to do that aero testing with Fenella Langridge and Jason Pohl I got a chance to test out all the different variations that were out there. So it was really fun to be able to entirely dial in the fabrics and fit to what worked best for me. So that was kind of cool.

Speaker 2: 9:25

It was fun to finally get to entirely dial in the fabrics and fit to what worked best for me, so that was kind of cool. It's fun to finally get to try it on and, oh my god, the fabric on the legs is so like thin but fast, like it's a really nice combination. Running feels so good in this and without the leg squish at the bottom it fits so well. So I'm so excited to actually try it out in a race, and I've got a duathlon coming up in two weeks. I'm actually going to do some racing so that's amazing.

Speaker 3: 9:54

You're gonna be so amped up on that day because I mean, you've done what you did that 10k right and you're gonna. It's been a while for you to do a duathlon triathlon type thing and you're gonna be so amped up. It's gonna a while for you to do a duathlon triathlon type thing and you're going to be so amped up. It's going to. We're going to have to slow you down that morning Meditation before.

Speaker 2: 10:12

Yeah, although I had a bit of a different transition this weekend.

Speaker 2: 10:16

Yeah you did a little different things. Um, yeah, If the audience doesn't know, I do some like acting and modeling on the side, just for fun. I've mentioned a few things in there. But I was hired on to do a fashion show, like walk down the catwalk, which I found out at the event that my agency pushed me as a very experienced model, which I'm very experienced, but I have never done a fashion show or walked down a runway, because typically you have to be five, eight and I'm five'6. So we've just never been booked for one. So show up and they're like yeah, no, they told us you are really experienced, so can you choreograph what the walk will be and what the poses will be and teach it to the other models and teach them how to do this, because they've never done a runway before. I was like do this because they've never done a runway before. I was like yeah, totally, I just went bake it till you make it mode.

Speaker 3: 11:12

It's like yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2: 11:14

It was so funny. But you know what? It was a little intimidating at first. It was like a sold out show just packed in there. But luckily but luckily it turns out a lot of the tickets came with bottomless mimosas, so the crowd was super enthusiastic they were just hooting hollering and cheering us on.

Speaker 2: 11:36

It's like, okay, cool, this is easy. So it ended up being a lot of fun Um, something a little bit different. And then ended up spending the morning in heels so I had to send an email to my coach. I'm like I'm switching the really hard workout to tomorrow because I don't do heels. My calves were just like aching. I'm like, oh, I need to do this more for strength training, just for running on there. But yeah, it was fun to mix it up a little bit. Definitely some achy calves going into the next day, but was excited and amped up and a little fresher to go into a brutally hard run bike run, bike workout and just mentally fresh to get after it. So that was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3: 12:19

Yeah, what was that workout that you did? He was like multiple back and forth, right.

Speaker 2: 12:25

It's been a lot of on the weekends kind of bike run, bike run or run, bike run, bike just going back and forth in there and the intensities are getting faster and faster. So definitely have realized that I'm not going to be running the times of the other competitors in there. I can hold those for about a kilometer maybe. So it'll be all about getting the bike dialed in for me and that's what I've been having a lot of fun doing aero testing with this Ghibli aero sensor and seeing some massive gains there even for 40K, like just slight equipment and position changes have been making big differences in the CDA and aerodynamics and it was kind of funny. I got my bike to the point where it is in the fastest possible position and then I went to my bike fitter and I'm like how dumb is this position, or not?

Speaker 3: 13:20

You're telling the bike fitter where you need to be. I mean, it's not the point of a bike fit.

Speaker 2: 13:26

It's so funny he knows me well enough at this point. We push the boundaries a lot, we'll say, because he uses a retool bike fit position. But my numbers are never really within range. But enough experience, kind of testing out seeing what works and what doesn't work. But yeah, so we determined it is borderline. It's either going to be a great idea or terrible. A few more rides will determine it. Because the biggest, like my, my reach is pretty far forward. My seat height is high, but all of those work with what I've done before and like feel really good. Seat height is high, but all of those work with what I've done before and like feel really good. The one thing that could be stupid or not is, um, I've got my front end like slammed down where two centimeters higher looks really good. It is in a good range. But two centimeters lower is about a minute faster over 40k.

Speaker 3: 14:22

So it's now. Could you hold that for a full ironman?

Speaker 2: 14:26

that would be questionable totally different bike fit than a full ironman.

Speaker 3: 14:30

For sure, this is definitely keeping in mind that it's 40k absolutely, and that's what that's one thing to, I mean, remind people too, like that you can have a different fit for the race distances, for sure, especially ironman um distance, but even between a 70.3 and a sprint, there might be some changes you might want to make yeah, absolutely, and it's funny, I got absolutely slammed on this time trial uh facebook group and they're showing uh like some changes brutal well, it's so funny because I posted my position on the Hanzo and like, just got, everyone loved it.

Speaker 2: 15:07

It looks amazing. It looks incredible. I was at the same numbers on the Argonne before I slammed it lower and they're just like no, that's terrible, it's awful. You don't, you're doing, you're gonna hurt yourself like this is exactly the position I've been racing on for an Ironman. But so, um, yeah, those are always interesting. But, yeah, going super aggressive, going to do a few, hopefully get out for a few rides outside, test it out at this duathlon in a couple of weeks and see if things start to hurt and ache, then raise it up a little bit higher, no worse for wear and just pay attention to those things. But it's been, yeah, so much fun just to play around and see what is fast and what the difference actually is and it's like you can actually get outside and do all these things too.

Speaker 3: 15:52

Now, with the weather's finally changed, you might get another day of snow hopefully nothing I mean it's not off the out of the realm of possibility.

Speaker 2: 16:04

It's funny Some of my Aussie friends always harass me because they wear socks on the bike, um, doing races. But like, even in the peak of summer it could be two, three degrees Celsius, so like high thirties at the after you get out of the swim and it's like, yeah, no, you need socks or else you won't have any toes left at the end.

Speaker 3: 16:23

But once you train in them all the time, like that too, you'd probably want to keep them on race day, because even your shoes are fit. You know how tight to make your shoes and things like that, I guess, would all add up over that distance. Especially too, you don't want to start having your toes go numb and feet go numb because you've tightened them too hard or something because you're barefoot. But I did Oceanside, I think you know. So my last, my sprint, I did without socks on the run, but that's a, that's a sprint. I mean a 5k. I'll stay with the run, but for a half marathon I'll put socks on. I'll bike, yeah, and just use the. I'll have the monocalf sleeves on for the swim underneath and and just leave those on for the bike and let them air dry. And same thing with the kit. Um, it's amazing to me that emma pallet brown still wears like the old school swimsuit and goes out there and dominates.

Speaker 2: 17:21

It's like it's unbelievable and especially now that we know how much aero benefit there is. Like these tech fabrics are faster than skin a hundred%, and actually we'll go more into that with my what the F of the week and talking about some interesting results ahead.

Speaker 3: 17:39

Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2: 17:41

Well, speaking of results, how about we jump into a couple of things that went on this weekend? We were kind of chatting and we're going to keep most of the results to the big series because we have so much racing going on these days the T100 series, the ironman pro series and then wtcs and we'll have a couple special mentions here and there. But we'll kind of keep it dialed in there because, as you know, we can get talking about things and go on forever. So if we talked about all the races it could be a little while in there. But we had an interesting race go on this weekend where everything and anything happened, it seems like at, uh, iron man hamburg, a women's only race in the iron man pro series. Um, didn't get a chance to watch too much of this and just kind of catching up.

Speaker 3: 18:26

But, josh, you want to give us an idea of what happened out there and the chaos that ensued well, I mean, it was certainly a pretty stacked field and I I think the consensus was that it was probably a kat matthews race to take home and and get her second win at the full distance and it's like, okay, well, if you can book two wins, uh, a full iron man in the pro series. Well, there's 10 000 points now. Now she's set up to go do Nice as her third, maybe drop into a couple 70.3s and she's right there for the the season series and she was all lined up to do that. Had a mechanical um with her aero bottle on the bike and it looks like a couple screws came loose, so it sounds like mark's taking the blame for that one. But she was able to get back. But, uh, finella out of the water and then leap back. Uh, as usual, had a great swim um and she led pretty much most of the the bike and into the the run. And uh, as we've seen in a couple of her races recently, fenella's had a tough go on the run whereas other people are just having better runs and she hasn't been able to hold leads or hold her position. So she ended up dropping back to fourth but now leads the pro series overall and continuing.

Speaker 3: 19:50

Another amazing I guess you want a little bit of a comeback season Jackie Herring, after a great showing in St George, doing her first full-distance Ironman in nine years, 36 years old, and runs right to the front and holds off Maja Nielsen coming hard at the end and sets a US record for full-distance Ironman with an 8.19.14. I mean just an unbelievable day. And in between all that we had some issues with Els Visser on the bike. She got clipped at a turnaround and then she got flatted coming into T2 and rode a flat into the transition and still finished in the top five. So again, what a season Els is having. I mean, she's raced a ton and continues to.

Speaker 2: 20:41

I feel like she's on every other race start list.

Speaker 3: 20:45

I think that was her seventh or eighth race this year.

Speaker 3: 20:48

Oh, in June. Jeez, because I mean she started in January. Her and Chelsea were over in Australia and New Zealand racing early on and have been racing. But overall in the season series you've got Fenella moving up from fifth to first, jackie moved from eighth up to second overall, danielle Lewis now back down to third and Maja Nielsen up to fourth and Emma in fifth, alberts holding on to seventh and and cat.

Speaker 3: 21:20

Unfortunately, um had an incident later on in the bike as she was catching up after the aero bottle issue and just kind of had a brain fart I think is what she called it and had a uh pass attempt in a no passing zone and unfortunately was dq'd with the red card. Um, and so no points for cat. So she's still sitting at 5 000 points from her win in texas and doesn't get anything for showing up and looking strong and looking like she was on her way to another win. But um, she had a good attitude afterwards and uh, we'll talk about that a little bit more too. But it's uh okay.

Speaker 3: 22:03

Germany and hamburg can't get away from any of these craziness.

Speaker 3: 22:06

They changed up the bike course to hopefully have a better race and, sure enough, still still had some issues but, um, thankfully nothing as bad as last year and uh, but what a great race.

Speaker 3: 22:17

Uh, for jackie herring and kudos to her just continuing to bug along. And this is the cool part about the series too, right, because I mean now you can start to talk about like and I hope iron man does do this where they, during the broadcast, they find a way to say, hey, look, if so-and-so moves up to second or third or they hold on to first, this is what our new standings will be, and maybe have that type of a live standings during a race as you get to the run, or even on the bike late in the bike, saying this is the impact of what this race means for this season series, because that's what it's all about now. I mean, yeah, these these individual races are cool to win and they look good for sponsors and things like that, but they're now after the season series and the championship of the world overall. So I hope, hope, now that we've had some people do two Ironmans, that we'll start to see some more of that as well.

Speaker 2: 23:12

Yeah, and they do that in the tour de france too, where it's like on the road standings kind of thing. So if the race were to end right now, this position, then you know this person will be at xyz position in the in the tour or whatever uh race series going on there. So it would be very cool to see that. I like how they have the countdown of points at the end once the first person crosses the line from 5,000. That's awesome and brutal. But yeah, I love that idea Getting some on the road standings during the event. Give the commentator something to talk about. I'm shocked they don't have someone on the side like Torsten or someone just giving them stats and updates of things going on, because sometimes they seem very shocked by the people who are on course or don't know anything about them or what's happening in the series and it's like you know you should have them like have people feeding them these stats and information. That would make it so much more interesting. Give them something a little different to talk about too.

Speaker 3: 24:09

Should be a lot of fun and it's not like these are unknown people. There's not that many in the profile that you can't do a little bit of research to figure this stuff out. I mean, we did have a couple people come from back of the pro series, but when you do well in a full distance Ironman, you're going to move up in the standings. Elisabetta Corridori and Julie Lamolo moved up into the top 10. And they were nowhere near being in the picture before that. But you're going to have that early on in the season. But now we're almost halfway through and we've got some big races coming up.

Speaker 3: 24:43

So having those backstories and things like that to fill over eight hours, nine hours of racing with a lot of commercials oh my God. Commercials oh my God. Understandably, because talking for eight or nine hours is not easy, um, and it's. It's not like the tour de france where you can just throw up a whole bunch of helicopters and things like that, but it it's. There's more that can be done and I think if we're gonna try and grab an audience of a sports fan and not just a triathlon super fan, you've got to start telling those stories a little bit more and having a little drawn into it, yeah and just getting more information about the actual movements half the time.

Speaker 2: 25:22

The exciting part about the race is not what's happening first.

Speaker 2: 25:25

Following the person in first place it's things like sam long charging from the back, like seems like he's totally out of the race and coming through both t100 and iron man could definitely do a better job of that telling those stories and keeping an eye out on key players a little bit more too, because that's the fun stuff the passes, the position changes, not just watching someone off the front, which is often the case in iron man racing, especially for those minor placings have some interesting battles too and even if they can't I mean we know the production of it and the camera aspect of it, on the bike course especially, is not the easiest to handle and manage.

Speaker 3: 26:00

But they still have the tracker and we've all talked about how the tracker needs to be better and not just out there I mean it's.

Speaker 3: 26:09

I can understand age groupers and having their friends and families watch, but when you're talking about a pro field, the tracking should be a little better. And we do have the technology to do it, especially with all of these pro series, races, including race ranger, and things like that. Hopefully it gets better, but you can start to tell those stories as they move up in the back, even if you don't have a camera crew on them and and still have the camera on the female pro race and you're talking about the male pro. I mean, as long as we can talk about the data, that's that's what I am hoping for see what's happening.

Speaker 2: 26:39

Yeah, that'd be awesome. Um, a couple other little special mentions of races. We won't dive too much into them, but we saw a great race from javier gomez. He is getting his season underway finally, and you know it. He went out to challenge vittoria and took the win there, which was so good to see, and he's going to be backing it up right away over in the T100 in San Francisco at Alcatraz. So it's good to see he's back on track there. Um, and curious to see what he can do kind of against the top names, because, let's be honest, a lot of these other races don't quite have the uh, the depth of field, and so be really curious to see where he's at against some of the top names now, cause it's been a long time since we've seen him. Yeah, race them the best.

Speaker 3: 27:26

Yeah, that was really cool to see and and we know we've been waiting for his debut in the T 100. Um his debut in the t100 um. So really really cool to to see him have a day I mean, not the the biggest field um out there, but he got to a start line and he got to the finish line first, so we'll see what he can do in san francisco yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 27:48

And then another special mention usually we won't mention this, but it could have some interesting implications for the Olympic selection is there was a race over in Poland where they had Sam Dickinson and Johnny Brownlee going basically head to head. I believe the idea was to give the British Olympic selectors a little bit better idea of everyone's form going to the event, because they're going to have to choose someone to join Alex E in Paris and Sam Dickinson took out Johnny Brownlee to take that win. So it definitely makes things a lot more interesting for the selectors in Britain. I'm really curious to see how they go Really. Is Sam Dickinson going to a medal? Probably not. Is Johnny Brownlee gonna win an individual? Probably not. But when it comes to the relay, johnny's got that experience of going to these big games and having big um results at some of the biggest games. So I think being able to handle that Olympic pressure is definitely a good thing. But do they go the other way and give Sam Dickinson the shot at that? What do you think, josh?

Speaker 3: 28:59

I mean, I think it's similar to what the US is dealing with the experience versus the opportunity, versus somebody who might help the relay, and it's not an easy call and there's a lot of posts and polls and all that about like, is this something that we should leave to the ranking? Should we leave it to discretion? And it's across the board, it's not just the us, it's not just the brits, um, but it is interesting to see. When you talk the name brownlee, I mean it just pulls a lot of weight, um, and it's hard to say no to. But we shall see. I guess in the next week or two we'll find out what the Olympics are going to look like and who's going to be battling it out. And, like you said, these guys and girls are not all in it for the individual medals, but they can impact a team sport on the relay and that's a big decision that the governing bodies have to make.

Speaker 2: 29:54

Yeah, absolutely, I'm so curious. You know the big names. We're still waiting to see the big federations. We're still waiting to see who they will select. So it's going to be an interesting few weeks and I'm sure there's lots going on behind the scenes. I'm working with Cycling Canada. I'm already seeing it. There are, you know, complaints put up and decisions being questioned, and it's going to be the same in the triathlon world and yeah, there's a bit of drama on that side as well, with people contesting race starts and results and everything there, and I'm sure we'll be hearing some more fun stories over the next little while.

Speaker 3: 30:30

What are we going to do without all this drama for two years?

Speaker 2: 30:35

Get back into it. Oh man, no see, the drama will come when all the Olympic athletes come to T100. Start smashing. Although we've heard that time and time and time again, there's really only a select few that really make a bang in the long distance andistance and middle-distance triathlon. Post-olympic.

Speaker 3: 30:56

Yeah, I mean we'll see what that rookie class can do this year. And obviously there's people like Christian who have way more seasoning in the 70.3 world, but there's the Haydens and the Martin Vinriels that everyone's just waiting to see get unleashed into the middle and long-distance world. So it'll be interesting, for sure.

Speaker 2: 31:14

Oh, it's going to be crazy. Yeah, we'll talk more Olympics when we get all the final results in there. Actually, a good place to check out another podcast, protrinews. They've been really good with posting Olympic selections as those get picked, so if you want to go check them out, they've got a bunch of those up there now. Not a lot of surprises there, with a lot of the federations so far. We're really just waiting for the big ones.

Speaker 3: 31:38

Speaking of pro tri-nose, that's a good reminder of one of the races we didn't talk about because there was no pro field, but 70.3 Hanu, over in Kona where Talbot Cox racing against the former head of Ironman, andrew Messick, and they had a shortened swim, which I think they were pretty happy about, and crazy 25, 30 mile an hour winds and on the bike going out into the energy lab it was like nuts on the bike. So apparently they both came in the T2 around the same time and talbot ran with andrew for a little while and then he just kind of took off. But uh, pretty, pretty cool publicity for the event and cool for the two of them. Um, it sounds like talbot had a little snafu with trying to pack his bike at the last minute and ended up having to bring lionel's bike, lionel's helmet, because they were the only ones he could fit in his bike case Lionel's whoop helmet.

Speaker 2: 32:43

I think one time there was a race where they did like a promo picture on it and it was actually Talbot in all of Lionel's stuff. Whoever was posting it didn't realize that. No, that's.

Speaker 3: 32:59

That's a cool race and a cool course too. I had a couple friends and we had a bunch of mon athletes over there that that did well, um, as well, but just man, it looked like a rough day for a lot of people in that wind yeah, absolutely well speaking social media pro, try to use let's jump into your social media the week post of the week.

Speaker 2: 33:17

What did you see out there?

Speaker 3: 33:19

well, we talked about it earlier with uh. This is now the second race that kat has not been able to finish the first one in miami, where she had the calf tear, and then, thankfully, she was able to get through Texas shortly thereafter after rehabbing a little bit, this one for DQ and in Miami we saw her at the finish line right there as Indie Lee finished and cheering her on and their training partners. And really cool to see, I mean, after a tough day like that. That's not what every pro is doing, that's not what every age grouper is doing. They're not sitting there waiting for their friends at the finish line and their competitors and age groupers doing. They're not sitting there waiting for their friends at the finish line, um, and their competitors.

Speaker 3: 34:03

And and there she was, again dq'd and she gets back out there with mark cheering on the other pro racers throughout the entire run. And she just had another awful day and a big day on her calendar that went wrong. And it's just cool to see, because we talk about how awesome this community is all the time and and when it gets to the pros, I think that's the next level that separates it and I talk about it all the time, but to see that, um, it speaks a lot to her character and for her to get back out there and cheer on her teammates and and on top of that, maybe got her some good cover, because she's like hey, mark, I'm dq'd and met him on the course.

Speaker 3: 34:34

He immediately calls the pto is like hey, do you have a spot in san francisco for cat? The next thing you know they're on flights and heading to san francisco and she's racing in t100 this weekend.

Speaker 2: 34:43

I mean you're fit, you're tapered, may as well go she had a little bit of a good training there.

Speaker 3: 34:49

That was about it, instead of doing a full 140 yeah, that is awesome is awesome.

Speaker 2: 34:54

No, it was good to see It'll be fun to see her out there and what she can do against that field. That field is stacked and we'll definitely get more into that in a little bit here.

Speaker 3: 35:04

Yeah. So she's got a post up now talking about that whole interaction, about getting to the T100. And there's probably some stuff on her page about just talking about the DQ disappointment and how she's handling it. So kudos to Kat and good luck in San Francisco, because she's definitely ready to go.

Speaker 2: 35:20

Yeah, absolutely. Well, that brings us to our what the F moment of the week. And you know what? It's not the first time, it's not going to be the last time, but my what the F is just Lionel Sanders in general. So he did a really great actually series with his injury. He went over to Germany to do some wind testing in the tunnel and it's something that it sounds like he's been putting off for a long time, just with the international travel and all of that stuff. So he finally got down there to do some testing with Canyon and at the wind tunnel. And there are a few notable things in there. First off, now that I've been getting more into CDA and everything, his starting CDA was shockingly bad. Like for a pro triathlete it was.

Speaker 3: 36:09

All I could think of was you on that? When I was like, wait, holy crap, jenna's is like way better, and I know we've talked you on that. When I was like, wait, holy crap, jen is like way better, and I know we've talked these numbers before and I thought his was better too, but then it was like whoa, that's his baseline.

Speaker 2: 36:23

That's like his ocean side position. It was so bad. So it's shocking that he's had the results he's had with that rough of CDA, because, like none of the other, like you'd be surprised to see if there's any other top pros around that number, but I think I can't remember exactly what it was. I think it was around like two, three kind of thing like it. It was bad, um. So the interesting thing, though, was he did a lot of testing and unfortunately and well, well, fortunate for him is he didn't see a big difference when he went up and down in stack and forward and back in reach, so he was able to find a position that was still he was able to be very powerful in it because he didn't have to go super low. Unfortunately, I found the exact opposite significantly faster, lower, but it was kind of cool because he's at a place right now where he's not locked into a ton of sponsors, so he was able to test out a bunch of different helmets, a bunch of different tri-suits although he didn't test a mono tri-suit, but he was able to dial things in, which was very cool.

Speaker 2: 37:28

But that led to a couple other what-the-ups throughout the videos, if you watch the series in there, first off shaving his legs. So apparently he's and watts right and so, yeah, so that's exactly it. He saw a drop in his CDA of the equivalent about 10, 11 watts in there just from shaving his legs. And he apparently stopped shaving his legs in races a while ago because he thought it was bullshit and that brought him down into like a respectable range when he shaved his legs. And this is not the first time we've learned this either. There was that kind of famous article by Jesse Thomas with the Specialized team years ago and he was a hairy guy and he saw the same thing like 11 watts just by shaving your legs. That is absolutely massive. The amount of training you have to put in and tweaking a position, all that for 10 watts. It's significant. Or just buy a pink razor and you'd be good to go.

Speaker 3: 38:26

I mean, it is an easy thing to do. To me it's just been natural to do it before race day and then let it grow and then go back and do it, but it's like why not? Right, and for me I'm not getting 10 watts, I'm not going that fast, but when you're going and averaging 26, 27, 28 miles an hour, it's a huge difference.

Speaker 2: 38:49

Yeah, and it was really crazy because they tried a lot of things and there weren't any drastic jumps in anything, but they definitely kind of whittled it down by the end and got that number lower and lower. So it'll be exciting to see if he's able to stick with those positions, if he sees a massive difference on race day. Although some of the testing in there with one of the aero bottle setups, they said it was faster at like zero degree yaw, but it'd probably be a net loss in crosswinds and I'm like, okay, this is for a race in Kona. When is there zero yaw in Kona? So, yeah, really interesting. But then that brings us to the last what the F of this series.

Speaker 2: 39:29

So there were some eagle eyed viewers will say in the closing shot of the last video in there. They're getting one of those shots that look really cool with the, where you can visually see the air and how it moves over his position, um, with some like fog smoke dealie, and the guy holding the uh, the wand was Jan Fredino. So there have definitely been some musings and questions and rumors about Jan Fredino uh, coaching Lionel Sanders, which I think if there's one person that he might listen to, it might be Jan Frodeno. He's idolized this guy forever, but I'd be really, really curious to see what that relationship is. If it is a full on coach, if it is an advisor, what's happening there?

Speaker 3: 40:17

Well, I mean that might be a reason for some of that swim volume going into Oceanside.

Speaker 2: 40:22

It made a difference, for sure.

Speaker 3: 40:23

Back to the goat and the man who knows how to swim for sure. It sounds like he's definitely, if not the coach of Lionel Sanders. He's definitely a very large, trusted advisor, and somehow Jan's finding the time to do that between all the other stuff he's doing traveling the world and his vocation of racing gravel crazy races, yeah, climbing mountains and doing t100 announcing, which he's done a great job of as well. So thank you for that. It was a really cool little catch by a lot of people, um, but yeah, it's out there now. Kudos to Lionel, because we all know that he chose to go after Kona this year and that's what he hasn't had a chance to win yet.

Speaker 2: 41:10

And you know, when he finds someone and sticks to it. He had great results when he was working with David Tilbury Davis and he just needs to pick a lane and stick to it Just be so good. So hopefully Jan can help him get there, because he's got so much talent and just raw strength, so definitely in the position getting some of that swim volume, getting some advice from Jan Ferdino, it would be very cool to see what he can pull off and cone in there. It definitely makes me excited to see. Actually, speaking of Jan, I'm going to in san francisco they're having a fundraiser for uh uh challenge athletes foundation, so it'll be an evening with uh yon perdino and alistair brownlee and ashley gentle, so it'd be kind of cool to hear some of their thoughts going ahead of the t100 in san francisco that, actually.

Speaker 3: 41:57

I mean that reminds me of something else that we should probably talk about too, and say hi to bob when you see him at the event he's great.

Speaker 3: 42:06

Well, he, I had just had this conversation with my coach over the weekend, um, and bob just dropped a youtube about it, and I don't know if you heard dave scott's having heart surgery and and it's the number of these elite ironman distance racers that have had heart conditions later on in their lives or even in the middle of their careers. Um, so, just a very like alarming type thing, but wondering what the research will tell us. Um, when you're talking about these guys who have pushed themselves for so long and and and done well while doing it, what? What is causing it? What is what is creating it?

Speaker 3: 42:48

I mean, you know how much research is being done on ct in the nfl, but what is what is it? What is the impact on endurance sports? And, yeah, and is it the way they used to fuel or lack of fueling? And is that something that this new age of overfueling and carb loading and things like that, is that going to help the future of your heart conditions and longevity? So maybe that is something that was the kind of like my take from it originally was like maybe that is the tipping point that has maybe helped the future of the sport.

Speaker 2: 43:21

Yeah, and it's funny because we are such a young sport. There's not many people have gotten to those ages that were hardcore into triathlon, putting those training hours on that kind of fueling it's. There's not a lot of people to look at for that yet because it is such a new sport. But yeah, I'd be curious to see. And, um, cycling would be another avenue to kind of look into and see if it's something that they're seeing a lot of there or if it's more kind of athlete specific like you said, they were really under fueled, I mean even heard it.

Speaker 2: 43:54

Just crazy, like sleeping pills so they don't have to eat after a long bike ride. Just like and get down a racing weight like it's god christian talked about it in class on sunday.

Speaker 3: 44:04

He's just like if I, if I knew, if I just ate, if I knew that I needed to eat more, what? What my career could have been, or what I mean in all of us. He's like, look, it went across the whole field. Um, he's like I've gained weight now, but my goal is to be able to pick up the phone when somebody calls me and go do something the next day and not have to worry about recovering from a four-hour ride or five-hour ride because I fueled enough the day before.

Speaker 2: 44:30

And what a huge difference, that is. No, absolutely. Well, we have been talking around it a little bit, but we have the T100 coming up this weekend in San Francisco and I think this might be the most stacked race.

Speaker 3: 44:48

I think we're going to say that every time the T100 pops up.

Speaker 2: 44:52

The last couple were okay, but there's a lot of wild cards and going forward. You're right, though, because we're getting to the point where people have to race.

Speaker 1: 45:01

We're going to get these.

Speaker 2: 45:02

It's coming in here soon and it is going to be absolutely insane over the next little while. So we are yeah. So it's going to be down in san francisco. They're going to do, I believe, the alcatraz swim and then it's going to be a little bit different course than escape from alcatraz, that has slightly different distances, but they're going to be a little bit different course than Escape from Alcatraz because that has slightly different distances. But they're going to be doing it on the Saturday before the race and, oh my goodness, it is going to be absolutely insane. I'm just going to pull up the start list here. I thought I had it.

Speaker 3: 45:34

And we already did a little bit, and Jenna is going to post it on another Triathlon Podcast Instagram page. But we all did our own little daily Tri Fantasy pics and all that too. So keep your eyes out for which winners and top five we're going with and we'll talk about it here a little bit too, but we'll get all three of ours out there for everyone to take a look at and let us know who you're going with.

Speaker 2: 45:59

It'll be so good to see. So yeah, we'll give a little shout out on the ones that we picked in here. We had some different picks all across the board. I think Josh is always kind of going for a little bit more of those wildcard picks, which makes it interesting.

Speaker 3: 46:12

I love it. I was excited about an interview I heard and then I felt like my woman's pick was not so much a wild card. I think she's ready to go.

Speaker 2: 46:23

Oh, it'll be so good to see.

Speaker 3: 46:25

So we've got Sam Long, magnus Detlef, aaron Royal, peter Hemrick, matthias Medmargier, jason West, david McNamee, rudy Von Berg, kyle Smith, Alistair Menno Kouhas, mika Newt, kyle Smith, alistair Menno Kouhas, mika Newt, fred Funk, bradley Weiss, rigo Bogan, ben Knute, former champ, clement Mignon, jackson Laundrie as a wild card, martin Van Riel before the Olympics and Javi Gomez for the first time this year.

Speaker 2: 46:59

Yeah, I'd be really curious to see how Javier goes.

Speaker 3: 47:00

it'd be so cool to see him right back at the top of it and just giving them a run for their money yeah, I, I mean, like you said, that's a field with people who have done the original escape from alcatraz and familiar with the course and it is a little bit more of a punchy technical bike ride than we're used to on the this t100 tour. So I think some, some of us, believe in sam long and his abilities to ride that and some of us said, hey, and, and this is the, the power to wade, and the, the technical riding, and, and how much you can climb and get going through. So it could be a huge different dynamic that we'll have to see. But at the same time, it's hard to root against Sam on the bike, no matter what course.

Speaker 2: 47:49

I'm so excited with this one because it is technical, because there is elevation. We're not going to see what we saw in Singapore with red lights across the board and drafting it Like I'm. I hope T100 is actually going to start to do penalties, because they have not given out a single penalty ever, and especially when you have it on screen with Race Ranger just blatantly that they're in the draft zone. Hopefully we will see less of that here and I think the course will just provide opportunities between the swim might break people up with the nature of that swim and then the bike really making it interesting in there. I'd love to see something different and it's just totally different conditions with the cool weather opposed to the crazy heat we've had the last few auditions. It really this can mix up what we see for an end result for sure so, isn't it?

Speaker 3: 48:34

I'm pretty sure I saw that they're now required to wear like booties and thermal gloves and all this stuff for this race, because because of the world triathlon limitations and and weather conditions. So I think that's the way it was trending and I've definitely seen some of them training like fred funk, like training getting ready for that um, which would be really interesting. But at the same time, does that help sam? Or does the nature of this swim being so difficult on any given day? I mean, we saw a duber had what over a minute out of the water last year and and that's not, I mean that could be a big difference maker. But do they stay together? And because it is a wetsuit swim, does that help Sam close the gap a little bit? And that's why it's like, again, it's hard to root him out of the bike if he can stay close on the swim. But who knows, I mean you could get the wrong line and waste another minute and a half, two minutes in the water that you didn't expect it to be.

Speaker 2: 49:41

Yeah, I think Sam's going gonna be at more of a disadvantage with this kind of swim course, just especially if the waters are rough in there. Um, that's gonna make things interesting and make it harder to stick together, even with that wetsuit advantage, and I guess it's really, uh, really a matter how much time they can get on. But especially with such a strong field, um, with some like incredible swimmers we've've got a few traditionally Olympic distance athletes that are really good swimmers. You got to think they're just going to go hard from the front because they know what Sam Long can do. Now, there's no doubting it because he's done it time and time again. So it's in their best interest to take that swim out hard and fast, drop them and give themselves more of a buffer. So I'd love to see like a crazy fast swim in there and really make it down to the absolute wire, whether Sam catches up or not going into the race.

Speaker 3: 50:29

Well, the cool part is, you are going to see that you're going to do it. You're not racing, you're just there to watch. I mean, like it doesn't get any better than that.

Speaker 2: 50:38

That's the best kind of race weekend. I'm not racing, You're just. It doesn't get any better than that. That's the best kind of race weekend. I'm not racing, I'm just going to go watch and cheer and be happy. I'm not suffering in there. You got to think because they got. So look at the names in here. We have who's looking here. So we got like Aaron Royals, killer swimmer in there. You know Javier, he's always been like. He's got that Olympic background. He should be pretty fast. Ben Canute's always good in the water. Martin Van Riel can take out that swim bike hard, so it'll be really interesting. Alistair's always at the front too. So yeah, I would love to see a fast swim and they just go hard on that bike and kind of start to separate out a little bit more. That'll really put Sam under pressure and then see what he can do from there. But you've got to respect that guy's ability to just not give up, even when it's like a massive deficit out of the swim.

Speaker 3: 51:30

And that's the story the T100 is going to start telling and sticking to, because there's no way the normal sports fan would be like this guy's not winning, he's like way behind, there's not enough time. And like there's not enough time and boom, here he comes.

Speaker 2: 51:44

And that's where we need those stories, those like more cameras at the back kind of showing that yeah, I can't see like a Jason West running through that with that kind of elevation on the bike. That's really gonna hurt him, you'd assume. And I'm really curious to see how Martin Van Riel goes, like he is obviously fit and ready to go for the Olympics and kind of fire there. But that guy just goes hard and sees what happens, like sometimes he blows, sometimes he crushed it at the Olympic distance and 70.3s. He's been awesome, but again, he hasn't been up against a field like this, so it'd be really good to see.

Speaker 3: 52:26

Well, like Jenna was talking about too, my, my pick is probably a little off, uh, out in left field on on the men's side of this race. But we didn't talk about his swim ability. But but Kyle Smith is a heck of a swimmer and has had a recent result where he won Ironman New Zealand right. So I think he's ready to go. I listened to his interview with Jack Kelly and it sounds like this is a race he feels suits him well and I'm going to stick with it and go with the outsider, kyle Smith, in as the wild card for this one. I think he's going to take it. I think Sam's going to be right there in second place. Again, you'll see the rest of my picks, but those are my top two.

Speaker 2: 53:11

He's going to become the Lucy Charles, just to all places.

Speaker 3: 53:15

Just the two of them. Lucy's not there to do that this week.

Speaker 2: 53:17

There we go. Yeah, curious to see how magnus deetlove goes. He's just the terminator. I know he had that issue with that injury but it sounds like he's been back at it and um getting into training again and then we've got like alistair brownlee. He had the uh issue after singapore with his, I believe, his ankle there. But it's gonna be a cool right like it's gonna be near leeds. Conditions like cold I'm gonna likely overcast in there and cold water temperatures.

Speaker 3: 53:43

So be curious to see how that goes if he's been able to put in the run time that's the first race in the t100 that the guys and the girls are gonna be on the course at the same time yeah, that was really interesting to see.

Speaker 2: 53:55

I'm like okay, the one time I'm gonna be there to watch it all sticking it all together, but be curious to see, um, if that affects anything in there, especially with laps right like, what are we gonna see on that bike course?

Speaker 3: 54:09

I think there's I think there's what 40, 45 minutes between start times, so I think they're letting them go and the guys will be on the run course, so I don don't know how it's going to play out. How does it play out coverage-wise too, I mean? So T100 hasn't had to deal with that yet. We know Ironman does all the time, but how does the T100 handle that and their new production schedule and what they're going after for their fan base? So it'll be interesting to see.

Speaker 2: 54:38

Yeah, and honestly, from getting sports people who aren't triathletes interested in sports perspective, it's probably a better thing to have a shorter coverage yeah instead of an ironman like it's eight hours of commentary and it'll hopefully make it a little bit more interesting and easier for the commentators too, because, like we were talking about last time, they get fatigued and you start to see the drop in energy. As good as they are and stuff like that is a long day to be on and talking about triathlon. So there'll be lots of moves and changing around. Hopefully that will keep it interesting as long as they don't do some silly things like iron men has done in the past, like missing when women's finishes or not going back to them.

Speaker 2: 55:16

So yeah sure they will do a good job. That, because this women's field is insane, it is going to be so good. So, on the women's side, if finally have the athletes pulled up, we've got the queen of the t100 series. Ashley gentle, uh, taylor nibb, and how? Capala finley, laura phillip, emma pallant, brown, kat matthews, india lee, chelsea, sedaro, imogen Simmons, lucy Byram, amelia Watkinson, kyra Kavod. I don't know how to say that one Laura Madsen, jocelyn McCauley, tamara Jewett, anna Bergsten, grace Beck, jenny Metzler and Margie Santamaria. That top end is crazy.

Speaker 1: 56:00

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 56:03

There's a lot of British athletes. Yeah, I want to see Ashley gentle and Taylor Nibb that's. You know that'll definitely make it interesting. Taylor Nibb has just been on such an incredible tear, like she is so crazy fit right now that Oceanside performance just wasn't real. So I'm really curious to see how she goes up against Ashley gentle. Especially in like cold conditions can make it interesting. We don't know how that's going to affect the athletes. Ashley Ashley gentle is so good in the hot weather. Will that change up when it comes to these cooler temperatures and dealing with that? And then, of course, and how he can never count her out of anything. And Paula Finley like it. Just this could be super interesting. I'm curious to see how India Lee goes again as well. Like having that first race in the series and winning it. It'd be cool to see if she can back it up here.

Speaker 3: 56:58

Yeah, I think she's. I mean she's also feels like she's back to where she belongs. Coming out of miami she got sick and singapore was just a mess because of that training going into there and a whole bunch of different reasons. So we all saw how she handled her return to challenge um and winning there. So I think she's back in fit. We'll see how that goes.

Speaker 3: 57:21

Um, it's just again. It's, it's that course and and how do they handle and? And ashley's been there. She's been out in san francisco ready to go so hard to pick against her um. But at the same time I also feel like she's got a race under her belt and we've got annie showing up for the first time to a t100 and I just feel like she's got a race under her belt and we've got Annie showing up for the first time to a T100 and I just feel like she's ready to go and that's my pick on the woman's side this week.

Speaker 3: 57:50

And I think she's got the ability to climb and do the technical riding as well. So if she can get up on the bike and have a really good bike, we all know how she can run and then it bike and have a really good bike. We all know how she can run. And then it becomes is it a run between her and Ash? And wow, that would be really cool to see. And where's Taylor? How does Taylor handle the bike? And it's tough. I mean, it's a heck of a field. And I also feel like and this is my number two finisher was Tamra Jewett. She's had a tough season.

Speaker 2: 58:21

We really this year was, was tamra jewett like she's had a tough season.

Speaker 3: 58:23

We haven't seen her so far this season. Yeah, she's had a tough season, so it'll be really interesting to see if she can be a factor on the run, because, again, I mean, look at the runners in this field, my top three are runners, yeah, and if they can survive the bike course, it's going to be a heck of a finish, I think yeah, and I think because that bike course you definitely got to keep an eye on Paula Finley.

Speaker 2: 58:42

She loves St George for a reason. She's good at those hilly bike rides and obviously she's got the powers put out there. But I picked Ashley Gentle for top spot, to be different than Fede. I just she is on such a tear right now it is really hard to bet against her. Like the time she's been putting in have been absolutely insane and then backing it up at Olympic distance too, so I'm really curious. So actually we'll pull up our picks for all of us. We actually did the daily tri fantasy picks in here, so we got them locked in this time.

Speaker 2: 59:20

And we got them saved and we know exactly who we went with yeah, exactly so from feday his top three are martin van riel, jason west and alistair brownlee on the men's side, and then taylor nibb, ashley gentle, and annie haug on the women's side, and then for myself it was magnus dietloff, sam long and martin van riel on the men's and on the women's, ashley gentle, taylor nibb and paulette finley. And then we got josh with kyle smith taking the win, sam long in second. Ever like just sam long's, just second right, you might as well just put him right there.

Speaker 3: 59:57

It was almost my hot shot.

Speaker 2: 59:59

Pick too sam long in second I was thinking about it afterwards and I should have put sam long almost my hot shot. Pick too Sam Long in second. I was thinking about it afterwards and I should have put Sam Long as the hot shot because odds are and Jackson Laundrie in third. On the women's side we've got Hen Haug, tamara Jewett and Ashley Gentle. Big call Tamara Jewett ahead of Ashley Gentle in there. So it would be very cool to see.

Speaker 3: 1:00:20

Yeah it would be cool to see, and I actually locked in Annie at first place on my hotshot too.

Speaker 2: 1:00:26

Hey, there we go. Yeah, I think I locked in deep love and that I didn't pick anyone. Awesome, oh, I'm so excited to go down there and actually see this go down in person. It's going to be such a good race and hopefully can find a good spot to see what's happening in the moment in there and probably we'll have the race pulled up on my phone at the same time too to get all the commentary and insights. I'll try to post up some videos and shots and stuff and play on course. Reporter.

Speaker 3: 1:01:00

The biggest challenge for you is going to be keeping your phone charged.

Speaker 2: 1:01:03

Oh man, good call. Remind me to bring the charging bank. No. So looking forward to geeking out all around and I'll be down there talking with a few athletes with this Ghibli AeroSensor to see if we can get a few of these pro athletes even faster, get their aerodynamics dialed in.

Speaker 3: 1:01:20

You can talk to Jacksonson, that's for sure yeah, he has one.

Speaker 2: 1:01:24

He did some testing with it. Uh, he did a good review video testing it out. So lots more testing to dial it in. I was so bummed he had a mechanical after the first race when he made some adjustments for it, but it'd be good to see what he does there. Other than that, we have another Ironman Pro Series with Ironman Boulder coming up next weekend as well. Actually, before we do that, we'll do an updated T100 ranking series. At the moment we have for the women's side we'll go top five. For now We've got Lucy Charles Barclay and first, ashley gentle and second, india lee and third, lucy byram in fourth and hayley chura in fifth. That one is super interesting. She's just been like super consistent and that is the cool thing to see with this series.

Speaker 2: 1:02:16

Like just putting in the time, getting decent results consistently can really bump you up that ranking quite a bit, and then on the men's side, we've got yuri coolin in first, who unfortunately won't be at this race, so he's gonna lose out on that top ranking. San long in second, as we do, magnus d 11 third, aaron royal in fourth and matthias margier in fifth. So definitely, like it's, these next few races are really going to switch things up in these rankings in quite a few ways. I think, um, the cream was definitely gonna rise to the top, but for now we've had it's been nice that it hasn't been complete bloats with the wild cards, with changing up the race courses and locations. I think we're going to see a few different results this weekend.

Speaker 3: 1:03:06

Yeah, and Sam's going right to Ironman Cairns too afterwards with his crazy schedule yet again. Unreal Got to get his Kona slot.

Speaker 2: 1:03:16

Man got to get all the slots everywhere.

Speaker 3: 1:03:18

Unbelievable. We talked about this early on. It's like, oh, T100, and that's what they're going to stick to. Now you're getting all these T100 athletes also doing Ironman Pro Series and finding ways to fit them in.

Speaker 2: 1:03:30

I just hope he doesn't do like a Blumenfeld thing where Blumenfeld had, like that he was on a tear for a year just crushing everything and then crickets. Yeah, we'll see how it goes in there, we'll see in. Paris yeah right, okay. So Ironman 70.3 in Boulder. We'll give a shout out to some of the top names here. This is on the Pro Series ranking. Some of the recognizable names we got Leslie Smith, ellie Salthaus, batya Beard, aaron Shuckles, jody Stimson let's see.

Speaker 3: 1:04:07

The co-file car was trying to come back from her stingray.

Speaker 2: 1:04:10

There we go. Yeah, henny Guzman. Yeah, so not the most top-heavy race, we'll say in there.

Speaker 3: 1:04:19

Not on the female side, but there's a good field on the men's side here we go.

Speaker 2: 1:04:23

On the men's side we got matt hansen, chris leiferman, trevor foley, thomas rodriguez hernandez which would be really cool to see how he goes matt sharp, andre lopez, colin sam, appleton, nicholas kent, justin metzler, cameron, jason Pohl yeah, you're right, all the names out here. It's all be really good to see. I was just chatting with Jason Pohl the other day. He's working on getting that hip issue worked out, so hopefully he's fit and ready to fire out there. He's over training in Boulder at the moment.

Speaker 3: 1:04:59

So we wish him all the best. As a local Canadian, Absolutely. This is another one too. That's a wtf round two. Like tomas is doing challenge roth. It's like you've got a chance to win the ironman pro series and you're gonna go do roth like I'm gonna put the rest of your schedule in. But I I mean roth is bucket list and we all know that type of thing. It'll be interesting to see, coming out of Texas, what he does at Boulder. I think he's going to Roth to see if he can set the marathon record. I'm sure. Yeah, that run course is so fast and you'll see him and Patrick Lange going for the all-time marathon. Off-the-bike record would be my guess.

Speaker 2: 1:05:39

That'd be very cool to see. Is Patrick Lange doing Roth? Yeah, oh, je all-time marathon off the bike record would be my guess. That'd be very cool to see. Is patrick langan doing, uh, roth? Yeah oh geez, they're going back head to head again. I'll be curious to see how that matchup goes um, because I think he would have surprised patrick um out in texas yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 3: 1:05:55

He's ready for him this time see, that's another thing.

Speaker 2: 1:05:59

Why is patrick doing roth too, like yeah, he'd be a lock for the ironman pro series, but that means four ironmans yeah, I'm pretty sure he is.

Speaker 3: 1:06:08

I don't I'm not 100 sure, you know. I know thomas is um but, I think I heard patrick is doing it craziness.

Speaker 2: 1:06:16

Well, we have got some epic racing happening over the next little while here, you know, my only hope is that some of these top name pros across all of the distances especially the Olympic athletes with the Olympics coming up can stay healthy so that we can see some head to head racing in here. That's always kind of the little side where it was so much racing going on, especially with those jumping between the two series, but it is definitely keeping things interesting for us as fans of the sport and spectators and can't wait to see how this all shakes up at the end of the year.

Speaker 3: 1:06:47

They're definitely keeping us guessing yeah, absolutely, but it looks like we'll have, uh, another possible win for ellie saltos, which will be interesting. I mean, she's had a pretty good season and I'll probably go with ellie and in boulder and man, I don't know who I would go with on the men's side, it's stacked um. I. I think that bike course is tough. Yeah, let's, let's. I'm gonna go. Another outsider, matt sharp. He loves boulder, he's from boulder, he's raced while there before, so I'll. So I'll go with Charm.

Speaker 2: 1:07:18

No, fair enough, let's see, here Can Cam Werf win at 70.3.

Speaker 3: 1:07:29

With all of the racing he's doing everywhere, there's a lot of full distance Ironmans in this race too. That's the other thing.

Speaker 2: 1:07:34

Sam Appleton. Tomas, you know what I'm going to go. Leslie Smith, the women's side here. See if she can pull it out. You know what I'm going to go. I'm going to pull. Well, pick who Fedde would probably pick in here with Tomas Herregas Hernandez.

Speaker 1: 1:07:50

I want to see how he goes over this course.

Speaker 2: 1:07:52

I mean, it's a tough, tough bike, but that run is just something else. Yeah, beautiful, wicked. Well, that wraps us up for this episode. Check in we are going to have our 50th episode is going to be a little bit of a bonus, an extra one this week. We've got an awesome guest on there and you'll just have to tune in to find out who it is. So stay tuned and thank you for a year of listening to us geek out on triathlon all around, and we can't wait for the episodes to come. But for now, have a great night, josh, and we'll be back to chat soon.

Speaker 3: 1:08:29

Awesome. I appreciate it. Have a good one everyone.