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#44. Myles Cochran's Rhythmic Revelations: Harmonizing Humboldt's Heartbeat with Rock Echoes and Community Pulse

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When Myles Cochran strolled into the studio, his stories of Southwest Colorado, the pulsating energy of alternative rock, and his voice on 'Humboldt Last Week' podcast captivated us. This episode is a tapestry of personal journeys, musical nostalgia, and the spirited debate that only a local public information officer turned podcaster can bring. Together, we unpack the essence of live music, the shifting tides of rock, and the undeniable rush of being front row at a legendary band's concert.

Our conversation then ventures into the heart of community life, from exhilarating concerts to the throbbing pulse of campus controversies. We dissect the power of legacy acts and the role of local figures in weaving the cultural threads of our society. With Myles's unique perspective, we navigate through the complex narratives of Humboldt's news landscape, the recent uproar at Cal Poly, and the importance of maintaining open public spaces amid a world that seems to be closing in.

To round it out, we reflect on the collective values that bind us—kindness, passion, and the pursuit of truth. I open up about my philosophy on empathy and connection, especially in the face of adversity, and the significance of integrity in media. We salute Humboldt County's stunning natural beauty, its vibrant arts, and the warmth of its community, leaving you with a heartfelt celebration of what it means to be part of this unique place. Join us for this thoughtful journey that is as much about the music in our headphones as it is about the stories we live and the communities we cherish.

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Speaker 1:

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls of all ages, my friend Miles Cochran How's it going Well.

Speaker 2:

Hey, what an intro man. It's the four o'clock hour with Scott. Like I was saying, if it was the five o'clock hour we'd be doing dinner.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, dinner and five o'clock's a little early Even I guess I'm a senior citizen, so we eat at three.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, I eat in the five o'clock hour I am. I don't want to be digesting while I'm sleeping, so that's cool. You know how it is.

Speaker 1:

So tell me, who are you, what do you do, what's your job, what's your role? And you do a lot of things for Humble. I'm just the dude Scott.

Speaker 2:

I'm just the guy, you know that you see in the gym, sometimes maybe naked, yeah, but uh, well, that's TMI. I've don't go to the gym anymore, though we stopped. No, I'm, uh, you know, I, I'm a local public information officer for the government. That's my uh, you know, full-time job. But, right, uh, my main passions, I would say, is, uh, I'm a podcaster. I have the humble last week podcast which is local news, right, uh, local radio station called hum along, alternative hum altcom, like some rock and roll, and uh, you know, just trying to explore my passions and endeavors and just kind of pour everything that I got into, you know, sharing my happiness and passions with people.

Speaker 1:

That's cool. That's cool. I was listening to Queens of the Queen. It was a band Queens of the Stone Age. Yes, sir, oh, yeah, yeah, you were digging that. I was listening to that this morning you were yeah, really yeah.

Speaker 2:

So what got you?

Speaker 1:

into them. Uh, you, I just kind of liked them. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

They're such an amazing band and uh, you know they came from, uh, you know the desert and uh you know, I think it was like mid nineties there's this other stoner rock band called Caius that, uh, josh Homme was a part of, and I mean, this is guy. He's just like a total guitar nerd who had nothing to do in his upbringing in the desert but just played guitar.

Speaker 1:

Like California, mojave, oh, southern California, yeah, mojave, wherever, yeah, that's all they do is play guitar.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, stone down there I'm sure Desert rat and be drugs, yeah, and hallucinate and all that stuff.

Speaker 1:

So you do so is it more new stuff, like like you know what?

Speaker 2:

alternative is yeah, I mean it's all alternative rock and, uh, the. The branding is like passion and energy and distortion.

Speaker 2:

So I mean I've really found that over the years the rock industry has kind of shifted away from distorted guitars oh yeah and it's kind of leaned, like lately, towards, you know, like fake beats and stuff and and what I really wanted to do is just build something that's a testament to the distorted guitar. That's cool and so, um, you know, after all that butt rock in the late eighties with the Motley Crue and everybody, the uh, the angst against Nirvana and, you know, pearl Jam and Soundgarden and the Seattle Sound, Sure.

Speaker 2:

And ever since alternative rock with distorted guitars came out, I mean, that's just been something that's really been a passion of mine. Yeah, and so I play some deep cuts and play, you know, a lot of the hits from, you know, the early 90s to now.

Speaker 1:

Wow, okay, yeah. So that's all kind of new to me because I was raised in San Diego with Led Zeppelin, zeppelin, jethro Tull, saw the dead down there and went to a hundred shows at the sports arena, which is now kind of defunct and small, but, yeah, you know, really fun to see early Neil Young.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

He was great, I mean there's a lot of shows.

Speaker 2:

You piqued my interest with Zeppelin. How was Zeppelin Zeppelin?

Speaker 1:

was disappointing. Disappointing because they played for 59 minutes without an encore and they left. They, they phoned it in and just it was great. I think the show was great, the peak of their we're british rock stars and we don't follow any of you guys, we're out of here, I don't remember it.

Speaker 1:

I think we were kind of disappointed that, I mean. And then there's the antithesis of jethro tull he and anderson did like a two-hour show and just killed it. Yeah, and one of the most memorable shows on record in San Diego top 10, I've seen two the Dead at Civic Center and then the Ramones at San Diego State. Oh my God, the Ramones, they were new and they were fun and nobody had done a mosh pit. It wasn't even called that, it was like just slam dancing.

Speaker 2:

Oh sure, you know I love about the mosh pit is have you ever participated in one?

Speaker 1:

only at that that one concert they were shoving, and it was just crazy.

Speaker 2:

I just love it because you know you initially go to these and you go to these uh mosh pits and you think, oh, I'm just gonna get slammed and wrecked and there's gonna be all these like angry people that hate me, that want to hurt me, and that's not what it's about at all. It's, you know, it's uh, it's kind of peaceful angst among each other. It's peaceful violence in a way. We're all shoving each other.

Speaker 1:

You're shoving each other.

Speaker 2:

You don't want to knock each other down.

Speaker 1:

Right, no one wants to get hurt.

Speaker 2:

And if you see anybody knocked down, the correct mosh pits will bring that person up. Everybody will join together make sure that person doesn't get hurt Okay. Yeah, that's the best kind of mosh pit is where people it's violent love.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Isn't it all? But like, yeah, I mean you mentioned, you know, led Zeppelin and getting to see them live. You know, it's pretty incredible that you got to do that for probably what? 15 bucks or something like that.

Speaker 1:

It was like six, six bucks yeah, seven, it was really spendy. Maybe 750. Yeah, seven, it was early spending maybe seven, 50.

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh, you know what we got ripped off on that deal, man. Just yesterday it was announced that the justice department, us justice department, is going after ticket master live nation.

Speaker 1:

Oh good, so they deserve it Right Cause they're criminal.

Speaker 1:

Let's get those tickets down, cause like all the fees and the prices and yeah, gosh, I was looking so we got to see the who about four years ago, before covid. Yeah, we, my my father-in-law, lived in la and and I called him. I go, jenny and I were on a date. My wife we're blue lake. Hey, let's go. You got the live flight to la. Let's go to the bowl. Who's at the bowl? Hey, the who. They added a fifth show. Hey, tom, you want to go? Yeah?

Speaker 1:

yeah I'll go, scott. Yeah, he's 81 great guy and okay, I'll call you tomorrow and I called him and I go. Hey Tom, the tickets are like seven, 800 bucks. He goes too late. I already got four in the super seats which are right up in the middle, where the sound is kind of perfect.

Speaker 2:

I go, Tommy boy, my man that is. Yeah, went down and saw the who.

Speaker 1:

Some TV wasteland right there, yeah, oh and then saw the who in the bowl and full orchestra and, long story short, he died. He went in the hospital two weeks later and he died six weeks later. So it's like didn't see that coming. But we got to see the who and they were, and got to see my father-in-law, who I fondly call Tommy boy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, you know what that's. What these live shows are all about is sharing experiences with people while they're still here, and you'll have that with you forever whenever you listen to them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true. We're going to go see Judy Collins here in a couple of weeks, up and at the Brit festival, you remember, to the Brit pavilion. Oh, that's so cool.

Speaker 2:

It's just what a cool place we used to do Um on case lug. I was a DJ on case lug for about seven years and oh, that's right, and we used to have a really great connection with the Brit Pavilion.

Speaker 1:

And you'd go there to get to shows.

Speaker 2:

Well, they would just give us tickets to give away and their lineup, I mean, every summer, is just amazing and that's just such a beautiful part of the country. Out there by Ashland and all of the you know, the theater geeks out there, I don't want to talk it up too much.

Speaker 1:

Somebody said don't be telling everybody down here.

Speaker 2:

I know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Keep them away.

Speaker 2:

We're going to go see Jason Bonham's Led Zeppelin experience there you go, that's the way to do it, I mean, and Jason just crushes it, you know, and here's the thing is like there's a lot of nepotism that's going on in has to be in order for there to be sort of like this, uh, image of authenticity among the fans you know it's like led zeppelin without john bonham son um no thanks, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, let's see, um, who else is uh we're gonna go see. Uh well, willie nelson's coming. We're gonna be out of the country, but we'd go see willie gladly. Where's willie coming? I didn't see that. To the Brit, dude, to the Brit, oh my gosh, I mean they had lined him up somehow, I don't know. I'd love to see him. He's probably. You know, he can't last forever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, seeing his van pull into the Ferndale.

Speaker 1:

Oh, the fairgrounds, the fairgrounds.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, With smoke coming out of it of course, sure, sure.

Speaker 1:

So you were seven years, worked for patrick clary oh yeah, patrick's a great guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, patrick is a great patrick, hi patrick, shout out to patrick cheers to patrick and, uh, you know, all those lost coast communications people, um cliff berkowitz, founder of k-hum such a good guy. And uh, mike dronkers, who was with k-hum forever, is just, uh, such a mentor to me.

Speaker 1:

I'm still, to this day, even though you know, he's no longer that'ser and everything but yeah, those guys, legacy leavers, all of them. So so, uh, the other is your.

Speaker 2:

Your other shows like a new show right, it's a review of of the bad car wreck yesterday downtown and the things that you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't necessarily talk about that um in my podcast, because there's just so many, there's so many collisions, right, yeah, and so, um Humboldt last week, as a news podcast, uh is designed to bring people in because, um, you know, they want to, I want, I want to bring them back every week, so you got to entertain them a little bit. Okay, um, but that's not to say that, you know, the most important stories are not uh, sprinkled in throughout all of this sort of infotainment. So, cal Poly.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely, I mean the big stuff going on right now is the Cal Poly protests, and you know there's a lot of housing stuff going on right now. In this next episode that's gonna come out.

Speaker 1:

Is it true they're gonna fence in the university, have you heard? I heard that last night from a friend that works. Yeah, I don't know if that's true.

Speaker 1:

I heard they're going to gate the whole damn thing, which is going to be like freaking impossible, like all summer, no, forever. Yeah, a gated campus. Where did you hear that? His name rhymes with friend, so he works at Plant Operations and they've done this in other campuses. There'll be 8,000 key cards. I don't know if that's a breaking story or what that is. Maybe it's just bad rumor.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean it could be a bad rumor. You've heard of all the ACLU pushback against closing the campus because it's a public space and also because whenever you do close a public space, if there's a crime, aclu says that it has to be a very narrow and short closure and of course, this blanket closure has been anything but that. Yeah, it's a really complicated thing going on right now. Oh my gosh.

Speaker 1:

It's an ugly and $2 million worth of ugly yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, and and just all the loss of life you know, that too is just.

Speaker 2:

It's just incredibly sad and say what you will about, um, you know protesters and what they did, and and the vandalism being wrong and the destruction of property being wrong and, um, you know all of that, the destruction of classes. Uh, you know these protesters? Um, throughout the entirety of our nation's history, uh, protesters have. Protesters have raised awareness about certain issues. Some of them have been, you know, more important than others. I think the Boston Tea Party, we could all agree, was pretty important for our country.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I feel like I'm talking to my son, jesse, who we had the same discussion. He's dad. Yeah, if there wasn't something terrible, it wouldn't show up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's like, okay, I see the point. That is yeah, that is true. So are there other CSU campuses that are gated up? I don't even know, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2:

I guess one could look that up, but yeah, that just doesn't, that doesn't seem right, because you know, I don't know how they would do it at Humboldt because it's such an open, beautiful campus.

Speaker 2:

The first thing that comes to mind whenever I think about that is just the lack of respect that libraries get. Libraries are very important to all socioeconomic groups, and they provide access to the lower classes for really essential things, you know internet access, access to books, being able to watch movies. I saw that some libraries across the country lately are providing like little cubes for childcare, and so whenever I went to Humboldt State University now Cal Poly Humboldt the library was often used by the public, and so you know, that's just one of the things that comes to my mind. That would be a huge loss if the public wasn't able to go to a public space and reap those sort of benefits.

Speaker 1:

And one of the guys that runs it has done a great job with it. I think they're exemplary. It's a good deal. So we'll do some more shout outs for the shows. I want to do that. I want to afford you absolutely to do that. So tell us about the Miles Cochran story. Who are you? What do you want? How'd you get here?

Speaker 2:

I'm just a dude, scott, you're a dude, Just a guy. I'm just, you know.

Speaker 1:

The dude abides, miles abides.

Speaker 2:

I, yeah, I mean, you know high school. I was a football player, soccer player, but mostly passionate about local radio. Where'd you come from? I came from Southwest Colorado, four Corners area.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you've heard of being able to like go to that monument and put your feet in two states and then your hands in two other states. Been there and done that, so I'm on the Colorado side of that. Okay, and yeah, dolores, area near Mesa Verde. Went to Mesa Verde. Went to Mesa Verde National Park. Yeah, and Telluride is a really cool spot.

Speaker 1:

Did a lot of snowboarding there growing up.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's cool, yeah, and I don't know if you're familiar with Isabella Vanderheiden she's a writer for the Lost Coast Outpost, but our parents are very close friends and we grew up together over there, and so so you've got a couple of you know Four Corners area kids here in Humboldt County.

Speaker 1:

Did she come with you or did separately?

Speaker 2:

No, she was a little younger than me and just decided to come out to Humboldt State University, went to the journalism program. I said a couple of good things about it.

Speaker 1:

Did you go through?

Speaker 2:

the J school too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that's what brought me out here is, you know, I did community radio over in Southwest Colorado and I went to Fort Lewis College over in Durango, colorado, for my freshman year and then just, they didn't have a journalism program, and that was what I was really interested in. And there was an exchange program, a Western undergraduate exchange program that allowed you to go, as a Colorado resident, into a lot of the California state universities for nearly in-state tuition. And so I thought, oh, humboldt County, there it comes. And to be honest, you know, I thought that Humboldt County was maybe a little warmer, a little less rainy, you know, but I had heard some things about Humboldt County. I moved on out and went to the journalism program and enjoyed.

Speaker 1:

It Was Mac McClary, a professor, then he was a runner. Tall guy, yeah, no, would have been really old, no.

Speaker 2:

It was in the you know Vicky Sama Marcy Bristner Mark Larson era. I know Larson yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's small. It's cool having a university where you'd actually know the professors and the history.

Speaker 2:

It's like the Reno of universities.

Speaker 1:

Did you do news at K-Hump K-Slug? Yeah, totally, absolutely, you were the news guy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was going to Humboldt State University, got a job at K-Slug, actually got an internship there and was like taking out the trash and alphabetizing CDs and all that good stuff. And then eventually they're like hey, do you want to host a couple of case lug shows? And that turned into do you want a full-time nighttime gig? Do you want a mornings, you want afternoons? Program director, music director uh, rose up through the ranks there and that was pretty awesome. But all the while that was going on, um, I actually got a job at the time standard and started doing music previews for them.

Speaker 1:

And what is the time?

Speaker 2:

standard? Is that a? Is that a newspaper? Remember the newspaper? Yeah, yeah, it's a. It's made out of paper and it has news on it and people don't scroll through it.

Speaker 1:

You can't like go to the next story with your thumb. But it's no, you just get ink on your thumb. Yeah, yeah, no, I worked for time tri-city weekly for 20 years and we were acquired by the Time Standard in 99. Yeah yeah, by Media News out of Denver.

Speaker 2:

That turned into the Urge or something, Something Tri-City Weekly was yeah, yeah they destroyed it, but we were.

Speaker 1:

the Shopper paper was really all this competitive for the ad dollars. It was a great place to work for. Absolutely. Got him. Ron Pelleggi.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, great guy and I was there at the Kim Weir era where she was the editor of the paper. Thaddeus Greenson was there. I got to see that guy in his element while he was working. He was a very talented reporter.

Speaker 1:

He was a reporter. He was just a reporter at that time.

Speaker 2:

And then Jesse Faulkner was my editor. And she's just an incredible person. What does she do now? I'm not sure person, and what does she do now? I'm not sure I, you know I haven't checked in on Jesse in a while. I really need to. So were you a writer or reporter? I was a reporter doing entertainment previews, and so.

Speaker 1:

I got to interview people.

Speaker 2:

like you know, bill Maher came to town. I got to interview Bill Maher, you know I got to interview that's right, you've shared some of that. Yes, michael Franci, all the big names that came through, I got to interview those people. I was really fortunate to just uh talk to those folks and learn from them.

Speaker 1:

Amy winehouse when she was here, amy winehouse was here, was it? She not here at mazotti's at one point?

Speaker 2:

I didn't, I couldn't be wrong, yeah, yeah I, I know that um lord, which is, like you know, very uh famous young pop star, was here doing like a photo shoot or something like that. A lot of people pass through here. How's franti, a nice guy, guy, super nice guy. Yeah, he's so tall, doesn't wear shoes, has that sort of hippie demeanor about him. We can all be friends. That's kind of a nice vibe.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he does. Actually for the Brit Festival. He does a kid's concert, yeah, During the day before they do their main show at night. I I think it's kind of cool.

Speaker 2:

Who does that? Scaredest I've ever been in my entire life. Most scared I've ever been in my life Scaredest.

Speaker 1:

I'm the English guy.

Speaker 2:

Most scared I've ever been in my life or I don't know just kind of terrified was whenever he played Blue Lake Casino and they booked like 3,000 tickets for that show or something. That's a lot. Hey, Miles Cochran. So if you remember, if you remember seeing him there, I was the nervous guy that brought Michael on stage.

Speaker 1:

So hey everybody. Yeah, that's good. That's the Toastmaster. Training came in useful.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. You know you got to be able to hype people up.

Speaker 1:

Sure, so after Time Standard did you rise to the ranks, go to the state agency after that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly. So my daughter came along and you know journalism doesn't pay very well Local journalism, unfortunately doesn't pay very well yeah. Yeah so, and maybe that's indicative of the level of journalism that we see locally sometimes. I just wish that we had. We have some really talented people here, but this is also kind of a training grounds for reporters.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I would say For decades All the TV guys would go to Modesto or Reset or Stack or Reading or whatever. Yeah, that's all true. Yeah, nazi, just left and different people Nazi.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, very talented reporter and so so, yeah, it was kind of just out of necessity, out of a need for insurance, better pay a little bit more yeah, stability, but then sunshine hyped into the, into the humboldt last week and the hum along alternative radio thing and uh, you know just, I'm so fortunate to have sponsors for those things and to be able to be paid to do a passion. You know, it's just pretty cool, lucky, yeah I love, love that.

Speaker 1:

So how many, how many episodes or how many years?

Speaker 2:

have you done? So? Yeah, uh, humble last week, founded in um 2016. Rad, okay, and so, um coming up uh later, um after after we talk, I'll be working on episode 320.

Speaker 1:

That's pretty rad. I had it for a long time. Yeah See, I thought Nick had all the corner on the podcast world.

Speaker 2:

Nick, he's approaching 200, though. Yeah, this is a yeah, and this is an incredible studio space. By the way, it's like I'm looking at these, at these curtains, and I'm wondering, like what's behind them? Is it, like, you know, like cutouts of SpongeBob and like Bigfoot?

Speaker 1:

We'll find out, maybe we'll. Maybe we'll get a tour. My son goes. He's watching the podcast on we're on AXS TV. You'll be on in a couple weeks. He said that looks like Joe Rogan's show, dad. I go yeah, that's Nick. That's the idea he's ripping off Joe.

Speaker 2:

Well, if you want a podcast that looks like the one that's watched by hundreds of millions of people every episode, that's what you went.

Speaker 1:

You go with the red curtains, man, yeah, I, I agree, it's like so. So pretty soon comes out, uh, the drugs and and drinks, right, and then we'll do a three hour, three hour show with I wasn't gonna actually mention that today.

Speaker 2:

It's like uh, nick always brings out the beers, but you know today, it's today it's. You know, you're an insurance guy, we gotta no-transcript. What you see for Humboldt, what housing access is just so limited and it's really unfortunate.

Speaker 1:

It's horrendous.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, you know we are going to thrive because of our climate, and then there's a lot of other things that are going on here that you know we could be excited about. It sounds like the wind energy, the wind energy off the shore there kind of hinges on the presidential election, Um, which is which is interesting. Um, it could be a good economy booster. Uh, more students coming to Cal Poly Humboldt with the governor's investment there. Um, a lot of, a lot of money invested in our infrastructure, for our roads and stuff. Um, you know, we're really lucky that that's happening. Uh, you know, I guess I can't not talk about the road sometimes, but being able to do a last chance grade project is pretty huge for our community.

Speaker 1:

I was going to ask him about that. That's good. Is that going to be a tunnel? Is that?

Speaker 2:

the plan. That's what it's looking like, yeah, and I'd highly recommend you know chatting with the project manager, jamie Mattioli. He's just a very smart guy. Yeah, great family. Yeah, just a good family.

Speaker 1:

His dad's a good friend of mine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he's got really a lot of talent. I think his brother like played guitar with Sara Bareilles when she came and did that free show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he opened, yeah, he opened. And then Huckleberry Flint yeah, dick Taylor.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what? I don't know them, but um love their chocolate, yeah, hey shout out to Dustin and Adam.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cheers to them. Yeah, so do you ever do?

Speaker 2:

uh, do you ever do guests in your on your show? In terms of, I did for a long time, um, but then it became sort of a. You know it became more uh, it became more sort of uh, just a necessity. You know it's, it's a tool, uh, the the podcast did. It wasn't something that, you know, I didn't necessarily want people investing 30 minutes a week into me. I wanted them to have a 10 minute thing where they could quickly get informed of all the big local stories happening around them. Um, and then, you know, I also talk about where to find more information, and so every once in a while, I I'll do an interview. I mean, when Billy Bob Thornton came to town with his band, I took that as an opportunity to interview Billy Bob.

Speaker 2:

Did you see those guys?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was a great show. They're so loud.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're so fun.

Speaker 1:

So the distortion factor. You love that because that's what? Oh, absolutely, it came in as rockabilly, like all their stuff on YouTube is like Rockabilly, they came in. They came in rocking.

Speaker 2:

Grinding Absolutely, oh my gosh. Yeah, he just had really good vibes and you know what? He was just a member of the band and that's what I really liked about him. Is that it? He had that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. He doesn't want to talk about his acting background up there. He's really yeah. Up at the Brit Fest. You know where the Brit is Up in Oregon. Heard of it. Yeah, the Pavilion. Yeah, he's what is their band called? It's Sky Dog or something, but he's in a band They've been together for I guess a long time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's kind of awesome to see you know he's just one of those guys that.

Speaker 1:

So you'll like this story. I think I may have shared this before you might remember. So the Hollywood Vampires featuring Johnny Depp on guitar. So Johnny was a guitar player when he was discovered in a coffee shop in Florida before he was an actor Absolutely. And so he's got full regalia. They're grinding, but a cool band, so it's got Alice Cooper and Joe Perry from.

Speaker 2:

Aerosmith Johnny.

Speaker 1:

Depp, the drummer from Guns N' Roses, and another keyboard guy from who knows what, and all the covers and Alice talks all the lore of the Voodoo Lounge in Hollywood with Harry Nilsson and John Lennon.

Speaker 2:

How well-spoken is that guy. I mean, he's a great guy. His little cameo in Wayne's World is like actually him Like, he's just like that.

Speaker 1:

Well, his brilliance is he got sober when everybody else got dead, and so he has all the stories.

Speaker 2:

When everyone was joining the 27 Club, he said 28, baby, yeah, he was out.

Speaker 1:

But he knew all those guys and they talked reverently and respectfully and he talked about how that culture all went down in LA in that time and hanging out with John Lennon and stuff and just pretty neat. So then they would do covers of all these bands, whether it was the who or Aerosmith, yeah. Or they did a bunch of Alice Cooper stuff and they played Led Zeppelin for Jason Bonham and stuff. So it was a pretty fun show. Very limited tour, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you know what you mentioned that, and we're just so fortunate to get a lot of really great live music you know coming through Humboldt County.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know people like Billy Bob Thornton and stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about that, because that's I think that's a good stopping point. Musicology locally is my friend David knows the troubadours and who they are and he can pick them at, you know, at the Arcata Theater or the Arcata Playhouse or the old steeple. Yeah, and he goes oh no, this guy's great, he's amazing. We got to go catch blah blah and I go who he goes. Oh yeah, that guy. So you, you must know a bunch of those guys and gals.

Speaker 2:

Can we? It's been a long time since I was covering that scene.

Speaker 1:

And, but there are regulars.

Speaker 2:

There are regulars that just come through all the time and, yeah, absolutely, I think it was a really good opportunity to listen to a lot of music that isn't necessarily super popular, yeah, and that isn't necessarily super popular, yeah, and I think that's really important and it's something that sort of bleeds through into successful local radio stations. Here I mean k-hum.

Speaker 2:

they play all those deep cuts, they just do all kinds of stuff that's not super popular and right case lug. Whenever we rebranded back in uh, 2014, um, our main thing was like, hey, we don't need money behind these bands. We could get diy indie bands on the radio playing all the time and you know that was actually a method for success, because you're able to get some of those bands to come out to Humboldt County and play some shows. Yeah, book some venues and do some cool stuff like that. And yeah, I mean cheers to all the promoters that really kicked so much butt to keep us entertained out here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, debra Lazio and different ones. And we saw Tommy Emanuel this year, the guitar player from Australia. He's gosh. She's one of the best in the world. It was really good and all, the all the bluegrass guys and Patrick and those guys. Yeah, Patrick Cleary has been a good guy to mine. He goes oh yeah, you got to go see Molly Tuttle up at the Brit Shout out to the Brit pavilion one more time. They're sponsors of your show, aren't?

Speaker 1:

they yeah, no secretly they should be. I wish that would be true. So who all have you talked to? That was exciting. So you said Billy Bob. Oh yeah, Franti.

Speaker 2:

Franti was cool Billy Bob Thornton, bill Maher, michael Franti, you know, the lead singer of Arctic, of arctic monkeys, alex turner, was one of my guests my daughter's favorite band.

Speaker 1:

I've seen them twice now.

Speaker 2:

That's awesome in la, and then they saw them at the uh golden center and sack they're a really interesting band because, uh, you know, they came out with this sort of like sabbath sound, um, on their album am, which came out in 2013 wow and it was just this sort of distorted, really heavy thing. But like their latest albums are just this sort of like Beatles vibe, like yeah, it's, it's really interesting, very interesting band.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, daughter McKay, michaela, arctic monkeys he's talking about him.

Speaker 2:

Heck, yeah, uh, you know um John from Portugal, the man they were able to come through here and I got to speak to him um at length. Uh, you know, electronic dance music lovers, probably like Pretty Lights, got to interview him and you know, it's just, it's really fortunate to be able to interview guys like Bud Gaw from Sublime you know the drummer just some of these really interesting people.

Speaker 2:

But the main thing you got to recognize is like, hey, you know, talking to famous people doesn't make you interesting. You got to bring something out of them. You know, you got to ask them questions that nobody else is, because really the best thing, um that that you could do whenever you're on the phone or interviewing any of those people in person, is to find a part of them that makes them excited to talk to you. Still, because a lot of them are just so. They're so, oh, they're agents, are making them do interview after interview after interview, thousand of them yeah, and that's.

Speaker 2:

You got to find that in people and it's really hard to find the passion in people, but I think everybody's got it. You just got to find you know where to itch and and have them have that sort of reaction like a dog, so you've set this up. So let's do, do this.

Speaker 1:

Let me trigger you now. So what's your passion? It's obviously your shows my passion.

Speaker 2:

my passion is music and, uh, you know, um, fitness and um, you know, trying to engage with a kind community. Um, I feel like an informed community is a powerful community. So that's where Humboldt last week comes from. I really love informing people and I just want to engage with kind people. And you know what I always tell my daughter before she goes to bed every night is be kind, do the things you love, try your best, practice what you want to be good at, and never give up on the things that fire you up and I think that's really.

Speaker 2:

That mantra is my philosophy in life and I just want to find people that are passionate and doing the things that they love can you do those one more time, because I think they're worth repeating. Yeah, it's be kind right. Do the things you love, okay, try your best, practice the things you want to be good at and never give up on the things that fire. Never give up.

Speaker 1:

I like what you're saying because the kindness that will battle and oppose the darkness of separation, which has kind of been a little bit of a theme here in 43 podcasts there's not always, but that there's, there's always the bummer piece of our culture and humble the people that are that just you, you know the turds that just make it weird and make it hard and and are oppositional, just because, and sure, and I think I, I love that part of your passion, because that I believe that kindness is is the part that will be um, graciousness, love, whatever.

Speaker 2:

yeah I mean, I stopped replying to trolls about four or five years ago because you know they just come out and they're just you know, know, you were low.

Speaker 1:

you were low. I mean you guys were part of loco, right?

Speaker 2:

I mean sure, sure and so did you guys invent trolls pretty much in the Thunderdome, baby, yeah, is there a?

Speaker 1:

basement of trolls somewhere under the studio in.

Speaker 2:

Ferndale, I am sure a few things have been said about me in the Thunderdome, but yeah, uh, you know, over the years you come to, I guess I've been trying to remind people lately that this world that we live in, with all this social media, all the algorithms, are designed to just piss you off. It's outrage culture right now. There's no cancel culture going on right now. It's outrage culture.

Speaker 2:

What can we get you mad about, and let's not be manipulated by that. You know, a lot of us are people that just are looking for the kindness, the passions you know, and, and we got to find that in people and, and sometimes, you know, especially with the folks, you got to figure out just um, how to talk to them, um, and and that's I love doing. That, too, is trying to find different ways of connecting with people. Um uh, you know my government job. I have to talk to a lot of people that are really angry.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about that. Yeah, what's that like right now?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, you know, helping people get the information that they need without cussing at you has become an art form, and you know, it's actually something that I really enjoy doing too. That's cool. Doing too is is just the art of the conversation, um, the art of uh mediating, the art of, you know, uh bringing perspective into, um, our situations, um, and that's that's, that's definitely something that, uh, that gets me going to something that works in our office.

Speaker 1:

That's amazing. Shout out to Sam, said my um teammate at state farm. State Farm, he brings it right in. He used to work at HealthSport. He was in sales. But what is your concern? So a lot of people come in. They can't articulate what they need. Yeah, what's your main concern right now? Because let's oh, I want to save money, okay, great, let's save money. Yeah, and what's keeping us from that? Let's talk about that. Yeah, from that, let's talk about that. What's your outcome? That you'd like to see? That I'd like to see I'd save 20 bucks a month? Okay, great. And so now we've defined that we can bring all that in. And I think people come in and they're flipped out and we're not definitive about what we need.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, and we're not good at telling people and asking for what we need life at State Farm.

Speaker 2:

it's not just being, you know, on park benches and on buses. You know seeing your, your nice face with a big smile on it, with the State Farm logo.

Speaker 2:

I haven't bought one of those yet, hey, we've given you ideas now. But, uh, you know, we, we see you everywhere, we see your, your name and everywhere, and you're, you're the insurance guy, but you know you're also a therapist, right, hope so. I mean, uh, people come to you at some of the most stressed out times. It's hard of their life. Yeah, uh, you just got a big old scratch down the side of your car. You don't know what came from your oh man, and yeah, how do you do that?

Speaker 1:

how my mom died. Yeah, yeah, what are you gonna? I think you sit with people and it, and you would know my answer because you probably do the same thing. You sit with people and you would know my answer because you probably do the same thing. You sit with people and you feel it and you get in the boat and it's genuine and real and try to be present and stay present and some things are really big that are not that big. You know this guy. My friend, scott, has this old Mitsubishi and I'm going, dude, we'll get it fixed. No, it's my life. I'm going, dude, we'll get it fixed. No, it's my life, I'm going. Come on, scotty boy, it's fixable.

Speaker 1:

It's a windshield, it's a scratch, it's whatever. And sometimes, if you play your cards right which was what my dad used to say you could connect and there's, there's, um, the magic moment of feeling the, the magic of support that you gave it, they received it and and there's a solution. And we walked you through the crisis and, like a good neighbor, um, I don't, I don't need to trivialize it, I'm trying to be cute.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, there's that dichotomy. I think that everybody's going through and they come to you and then on one side they're thinking, oh, I'm such an idiot. Or oh, I hate that person that did that, or oh, I just wish this. I can't believe this happened. Then there's the other side of folks that you probably remind people to put it into perspective hey, you get to live another day. You'll drive again very soon. This is just going to be another blip. No one was hurt in the wreck, right yeah.

Speaker 1:

Are you okay?

Speaker 2:

And yeah, remember that. Hey, this is the perspective of everything.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and cars get fixed or repaired or replaced and I think it gets tougher, just I'm glad you asked. Thank, repaired or replaced, and I think it gets tougher, just I'm glad you asked. So thank you for interviewing me. I've never been on my own show yet.

Speaker 2:

Hey, welcome to 100% Humble with Myles Cochran.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thanks, myles, thanks for having me. No, I think there's. The hard part is when you're in a wreck and it's really your fault. Or you've damaged something or someone and you're going to pay the penalty now of higher rates for a time. Or someone was hurt and you feel terrible, or they came out of their car and they came at you, bro, and they yelled at you and they got way up in your grill and gave you a bunch of crap, and those are the hard ones where it's kind of personal and you know. Or you were found 51%, which is the same as 100%. Yeah, 100%, humble, yeah. And those are hard. Those are hard because it was barely your fault, but it was your fault.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So those are delivery things that are hard, but we have insurance for those losses and you know, the harder ones is death. Is, are, um, are is death. You know, love my mom. She was amazing. She died last week. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, the nice thing is, everybody else is bringing a casserole or bringing a quarter million dollar check, hopefully, so in a, in a good world, you could say yes, your mother did have life insurance and we'll be writing a check, FedExing that to y'all here shortly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you get to see that look on their face when you've made that investment.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm uneasy here because I don't want to get pitchy and it's immediately. It's like hey, that's wait, this is my passion. I like taking care of people. No, that's good, I like to hear about it. My friend Ron, who's just a great, I go what he goes, I take care of people and I go. That's pretty cool. What do you mean by that? I feel like my daughter, my wife, my people that call me that people are in crisis and I'm there for them and I support them and I go. That's pretty cool. We talked about that this morning, in fact.

Speaker 2:

It's so rewarding helping people and leaving feeling like you've done something to help them. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

He goes. You're call number four this morning. I said, okay, do I have a? Is there a time limit? He goes no, go for it, that's awesome, anyway. So what do you see going forward for the shows for your life? What do you wanna see? What's your five-year plan?

Speaker 2:

You know, my main five-year plan is just to continue to be the best dad that I can be and the best partner that I can be, you know, support my family and my community in any way that I can, and continue to try to follow those passions and, you know, continue to try to experience things that I can share with people and I just I love that, you know I love being able to to experience things that I can share with people, um, and, and I just I love that, you know I love being able to to do a lot of those things. But, yeah, like the five-year plan, um, you know, I'm still going to be here in Humboldt County. I'm still going to be, um, you know, raising a daughter with an awesome team and, uh, I think there's a lot of people out there that are, you know, kind of in the same boat. They really want to take care of those that are really close to them, and and and their neighbors, and that's the thing is like, really taking care of your neighbors is is something that that does kind of follow under the umbrella of an informed community.

Speaker 2:

My loftier goals with Humboldt last week is that, uh, the more people that are informed of what's going on in their communities, the better they can vote, the better they can um have discussions among community members that are factual and and based in um some sort of perspective that doesn't necessarily demonize, because everything is in shades of gray, and and so the more you know, the better you can do as a community. So, um, yeah, that's still going to be my passion. Um, I don't know how long Humboldt last week will be, you know, and I don't know how long Humble Long Alternative will be, but I think, uh, no matter what I do, it's probably going to be following some sort of passion similar to that you know, it's cool, uh, news and information, um, music, um, you know, and I'll still be going to the gym and seeing you every once in a while.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I work out a lot my gains, I have gains. Yeah, yeah, you're on the the creatine, and I wish I was protein.

Speaker 1:

My son, my son could put up 450 on a bench. That's incredible. Yeah, he is on all kinds of creatine stuff. Oh my gosh, he eats my my life out of protein costco's just outrageous.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, I mean because, yeah, if you, um, if you're really getting those gains like that, you need like pretty much a gram of protein per pound dude's eating and, yeah, peanut butter bud. Yeah, oh my gosh, he goes I hate eating.

Speaker 1:

I have to eat. Yeah, he's putting away like all this hamburger and stuff. He goes. I just it doesn't even taste good. He's just so. He's all this eating he has to do these days.

Speaker 2:

He gets the munchies, though, and he goes for it, so I think that's probably helped him.

Speaker 1:

Cannabis, yep, so thank you okay I don't know I go. That's got to be demotivating dude.

Speaker 2:

It's like cannabis is kind of Well some people. I mean, there are medicinal qualities. I know that it helps people sleep. I think that's like one of the you know chills people out, but you know you just just like anything. That's sort of a vice. You don't want to, you don't want to get stuck on it.

Speaker 1:

In our concern. He, he's 19. He's not fully formed, yeah, yeah, so I liked what you said, though, about. We all share that. Hopefully, we all share that vision in common we want to take care of our own, our families, those around us in the community. It's like, oh, that goes across all boundaries in a good way, yeah, and we can share that vision.

Speaker 1:

And I think information informed. But I think it's beyond information, it's wisdom and having a discourse with somebody. That's totally different, and my wife's really good at this. She could go oh, we have a new saying let's get curious, let's find out what that's about, because I don't really like that, but, dude, talk about it. Let's go. What do you got what? How do you, how do you derive life from that thing that you do? That's so interesting for us and and and to really it.

Speaker 1:

She's really good at doing, I think, what you're talking about, and that is without judgment, without a bunch of response. She's able to um, assimilate and go, hey, okay, cool, and and I get to come along for the journey and learn from her. Well, that's yeah, thank you joni? Shout out to joni.

Speaker 2:

Hey, joni yeah, that's the, that's the um. The journalistic vision really is sort of a triangulation um, you know, getting different perspectives on every story, um, but also being, also being objective, and and so um to a fault that makes me sort of a moderate, which a lot of people are. You know, in Humboldt County they don't necessarily love moderates. What is? What is a moderate?

Speaker 1:

What is, what are they?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, but uh, you know you have to be, you have to balance perspectives, uh, but you have to, you know. Call BS whenever you see it.

Speaker 1:

You have to not be manipulated.

Speaker 2:

You know, and there's a lot of press releases that come out that people view as news and they should understand that. Hey, this is coming from the organization that wants you to read it this way. This hasn't gone through the ringer of a of a journalist looking it over, and so there's a lot going on in terms of hey, hey, I don't necessarily agree with the thing that's happening right now.

Speaker 2:

I don't really like what's happening right now, but I still got to put it in the podcast, right, and so that's separating yourself as a journalist from you know, from what you want to what you need to deliver. Tough to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, that's a lost, lost heart form in some ways.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate that journalism has changed so much over the years. You know it just used to be something that was admired before the state, you know Right, and, and it still can be that. State, you know Right, and and it still can be that. But you know there's a lot of people out there that will not watch a cable news channel that does not just regurgitate their opinions to them. Yeah, and, and that's unfortunate Bias confirmation.

Speaker 1:

Is that what that is? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I look at. I mean, I quit looking at news about three years ago. Every once in a while I'll dip back in and go oh, there's four stories on ABC it's snowed back east and trucks are sliding all over the place. Trump's an idiot, covid's raging. And there's a fourth one that it was something else, but they just regurgitated the same crap. Yeah, the bees are gone For a year. It's like, oh, my God, can't these guys get creative with something new? The murder hornets, yeah, yeah, so that'd be fun. So you look at that and you go. What is going on? And CNN and Fox News? It's like it's just commentary.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a lot of commentary.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and very little news and so you know, just 24 hour news is just kind of a silly thing in general, because there's so much if they tried with filler and filler didn't work, and so you know what they put in there Bias, confirmation, bias, advertisers telling you that, hey, viewers clicks, that's what matters to, that, that's what matters today, and uh, and so you know that's. There's a lot of people out there that will not get off that boat. They will still watch those channels, they will still say rude, mean, uneducated things in Facebook comment sections and and they like it because they like the dopamine hits that come from their notifications and they're addicted to this sort of thing.

Speaker 1:

It's crazy.

Speaker 2:

You can't win those people over and you never will.

Speaker 1:

And so, yeah, it's crazy and I see those, I see friends that do that and it's just a great, grave disappointment. You know flat earther people and it's like and it's everybody on all sides, Just to be fair, it's an equal playing field and you know, the human condition continues to be twisted and weird.

Speaker 2:

And that could be balanced too, because you know you don't want to be too judgy, because the main thing that I learned after my days on case slug was you know, and this is a big lesson that I needed to learn was that do not stomp on anybody's joy if it isn't hurting anybody. And you know a lot of these jocks back in the day on the radio, uh, it was all. If you're doing rock on the radio, you're making fun of pop and and you're you're making fun of this and making fun of that or disco yeah, poor disco I love this disco I love disco ah, there's nothing wrong with that?

Speaker 2:

I love you know that fun dance that you do and, yeah, that's good times. And you know what. Don't stomp on anything that uh, that brings somebody joy. You know what.

Speaker 2:

Don't stomp on anything that, uh, that brings somebody joy you know I don't want to take anybody's smile away yeah, yeah there's, there's room for everybody in the party and I guess, I don't know, maybe there's some people that just really love thinking that the earth is flat and they get joy out of it, but uh, I don't know how that's helping. Maybe it is partially flat.

Speaker 1:

it's what's other thing? The crop dusting, the crop thing, oh yeah, yeah, the nickel, no Crop.

Speaker 2:

That's not a farting reference. What's it called no?

Speaker 1:

Keb trails, yes, oh, the keb trails. Yeah, they're seeding us, for you know what?

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, man. I mean, how could they not? You know, that's how they get you to vote for Trump and Biden.

Speaker 1:

That's how you know. That's so Bill Maher Interesting I was watching that. Hit him six months ago, called and I really like him. I didn't think I liked him but he's he's. He's pretty objective in some ways. Yeah, and he had these pollsters on and they all go. It's going to be Trump man it's. He goes people under 30, these pollsters are going people under 30 hate Biden, yeah, and all the numbers. And I'm going wait, he's being objective, he's trying to give it as they gave it to him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 1:

It was just an interesting I go wait. I don't normally agree with this guy and I don't know I like that either, but it's like great respect.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know what, if you want to find a Well great respect. Were talking recently and, uh, you know he had bill burr on his uh, his other podcast besides real time. And bill asked him hey, bill, do you ever apologize for anything? Have?

Speaker 2:

you ever said you're sorry he said that he did, but I don't know if it's necessarily as true, you know. But, um, yeah, here's a guy who who does, call it like it is often, but he gets it wrong, wrong from time to time. He does, he does. He's not perfect, nobody is and I think that's that's a problem is.

Speaker 1:

You know who does call it?

Speaker 2:

like it is often, but he gets it wrong from time to time he does, he does. He's not perfect, nobody is and I think that's a problem is, you know, we get these people that are like hey Bill Maher, everything he says is gold. Hey, joe Rogan, everything he says is gold. And hey, fox News and CNN, everything they say is gold.

Speaker 1:

And we got to stop this you know it's dangerous talk, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true yeah, hey, everything I say is not gold either.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, fact check me, fact check everybody.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if everything I say is gold. You know, I'm just kind of thinking maybe not got the Midas touch man. Yeah, the desk is gold. This is beautiful. Hey, it's that time of the show. Folks, are you ready? I'm ready, what is this? So this is the time of the show where you could call out all that stuff you hate. Do I get to phone a friend? The airing of grievances? No, I'm kidding the Festivus.

Speaker 1:

No, yeah, kind of Festivus no it is Festivus, because you're going to let us know what you like about Humboldt, so I'll do a couple of general statements. So we'll just start with statement number one what do you like about Humboldt?

Speaker 2:

I love so many things about Humboldt Top three go. Thank you so much for asking. I love the nature here. Yeah, you know, I love taking photographs and hiking in this amazing nature that we have Pristine coastlines, towering redwoods yeah, you know, the nature is just incredible.

Speaker 1:

My wife just got back from Dollison Prairie a half hour ago up by Redwood Creek. Oh okay, they said it was magic out there today. Yeah, eight mile hike, they just jammed it. Gotta love the redwoods so the nature is-.

Speaker 2:

You got the red curtain, not the redwood curtain, but you got the red curtain.

Speaker 1:

here it's close enough.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

The red curtain within the redwood. Was that number one, two and three, or do you have two more? No, I have many more.

Speaker 2:

I could probably go for days. Man, I love the art, I love the music. You know the culture in this community. People always talk about you know the most artists per capita of anywhere in the world, and that's really true. And so a lot of the people that you talk to here are passionate and kind, like those things that I was talking about. Be kind, do the things you love, try your best.

Speaker 1:

Is that real, though? Are people really? No, I know they are. I love the people here. Most of them Love you. Is that true, though? Is that most artists per capita? Is that true, though? Is that most artists per?

Speaker 2:

capita Is that close.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what kind of data you could, it could be pretty true. People say that it's probably top 10%.

Speaker 2:

It's got to be true Two percent? Yeah, because I'll tell you what. Anytime you just get into a conversation with some random at the shanty, they're going to tell you that they're working on some piece of art. You know most of the time, and whether it's, you know, for profession or just you know as a hobby, and there's a lot to be said about spending time on art.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, it gets your hands off that damn phone. Amen. So.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of the Clam Beach Inn up in Clam Beach.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Recently closed. We saw Waylon Aaron Jennings.

Speaker 2:

He's a one-time troubadour.

Speaker 1:

Wow, here's the rando that we saw one night several years ago, pre-covid that it took him like five hot toddies before he could get his singing voice. Uh-huh, and he was on tour in High and Palm and Garberville and then here, okay, in McKinleyville, our little town.

Speaker 2:

It's like Hank Williams III comes through here every once in a while.

Speaker 1:

He was quite a yodeler.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the third comes through right. Yeah, yeah, and that's my third favorite thing is all the yodeling in Humboldt. I don't know Yodel competition. I love not being in traffic, man, amen, I just don't like traffic. So thank you so much for the good drivers in Humboldt County. There are some of you that like merge onto the highway at highway speed and like get out of the way and don't do that weird thing at the four-way stop where you like wave somebody on. But it's clearly your turn, like be a good driver, like be smart about it and chill out. Yeah, are you in a?

Speaker 1:

hurry. Yeah, where are you going, man?

Speaker 2:

Just add 10 minutes to your route and just drive the limit. Bro, yeah and uh, do that. Those and there are a lot of people out there um, that, do that and you can do that yeah, that that sounds like a pet peeve, maybe of yours. I think I hit a note there's this passion. Well, I mean, it's better.

Speaker 1:

The traffic here is so much better than la we have one light on the way to mckinleyville and I've got to and I have the secret where I go around it.

Speaker 2:

There you go, it's.

Speaker 1:

I don't do it. I don't do it aggressively, I'm safe, but it's, it's one light and you might have to wait three minutes, uh-huh. Three whole minutes out of my life.

Speaker 2:

Uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

And I'm so important in a hurry you know, like you, but you take the detour, you take the scenic route and you know, sometimes it takes the long way home. So hey, question number two If you were to eat out and I don't want this to interfere with any of your sponsors, because I don't want to mess with that but if you were to eat out, go out. Where do you take your sweetie?

Speaker 2:

Oh my gosh. Well, I'm going to be the cliche guy and mention Larapin. Okay, Larapin just does an incredible job. It's a great cliche. Yeah, I mean, they're just amazing. The brie over there is just like my favorite thing in the world, with the jam that they put on it and just all the nuts and nuts Mission figs. Yeah, oh my gosh man, you know I love Larapin so much and and we love going there. Um, you know, and you're in Fortuna so it's it, that's a drive.

Speaker 2:

It's a drive out there, but we make it a thing. You know we'll go up to Trinidad and we'll hike Trinidad head or elk head or. Uh, you know we'll do college Cove or something. Yeah, yeah, get out there for a hike, take some photos, you know talk to each other and then keep talking to each other at the restaurant. Shout out to Shy I love you girl. And yeah, you know, sometimes I like to go to Sunset at Cherry Heights. Yeah, or the Heights, I guess, right now.

Speaker 1:

It's called the Heights. Yeah, it's not the Heights. Yeah, they have a killer view.

Speaker 2:

I think in fact they put you in prison for saying the sherry part.

Speaker 1:

So oh really, yeah, we don't want that to happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's a. It's a crime. It's a crime. I love Seamus T-bones, you know they've been there for a while.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, love the ribeyes at AA in Eureka. Yep, good steak, good steak, good vibes. My shy and I were there once and this guy. We showed up and you know we were sat in such a way that they didn't have enough room to sit all of their party, and so we just were like, oh yeah, let's just scoot down so you can fit everybody. Ended up talking to this guy for the whole time we were there, spent $100 on our meal Wow, we bought our meal there, oh cool. On our meal. Wow, he bought our meal there, oh cool. And so I mean and these things happen in Humboldt County because you have the kind people that just People are great, they want the random acts of kindness, yeah, you know, and they love that. I love it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so cool. Okay, last question. So, nature guy, where do you go for your top three hikes? Oh my gosh, yeah A day of hiking and you could do three hikes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So my favorite one being, you know, an Ill River Valley guy down in Fortuna, sure Was being able to pop over to Ferndale and then head over to, you know, centerville Beach, a little south of that, right Fleener and Guthrie it. So that was one of my favorite spots and I really do look forward to going back there because it's just a spot that holds so much just a special place in my heart. And then, in addition to that, I don't know, I would say that I love going up to Trinidad. You know, strawberry Rock is just, it's, one of the best views you will ever see. Got to the top of the rope, yeah absolutely, I brought my dad out there.

Speaker 1:

That's right, you're rad. You got to the top of the rope and yeah, absolutely, oh you're.

Speaker 2:

I brought my dad out. You're rad, you're in shape. I brought my dad out there and you know she he didn't want to do the rope part and um, but there's still a great view off to the side. Yeah, and you know he looked at me and said this is still worth it this is enough, right here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was it was.

Speaker 2:

It was real nice and if you got strawberry rock, I highly recommend, you know, taking your backpack cold beverage of you know whether it just be some electrolytes on ice?

Speaker 1:

or something. Sit up there.

Speaker 2:

Sit up there, bring a sandwich, yeah, bring some brie, you know maybe some leftovers from Larapin and enjoy it. That's a good one, yeah, so I'll go out there to Strawberry Rock, guthrie, fleener, table Bluff is always a really good spot to go, but then you know, pop on up to like Oreck, uh, head up there a little North of there, go to um Humboldt Redwoods and, uh, you know, do the um the Prairie Creek, prairie Creek Redwoods, and to the Trillium Falls trail.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2:

And pop out to Trillium Falls. That's a beautiful little trail, that's my, that's my third favorite, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So we've learned our date night is five minutes away from Camel Rock, but who'd have point? So we could pull the van out. Here you go, bottle of wine, dick Taylor, chocolate, whatever picnic, and it's five minutes from home. Why would you ever leave humbled? It's like this is no traffic. It took, you know, five to seven minutes to get there and we have like five like secret spots. So, anyway, that's the way. Uh, parting shots. What would you like to be remembered for miles? Remembered for what? Just in general, and what is that inscription that you have on that tombstone of yours?

Speaker 2:

Um, just a guy man, just a dude, just a dude several times man. I'm just the guy and and really I think we should all aim for that. You know, there's a lot of problems with people that that want to leave legacy and that that turns into ego.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, and so there's all this sort of like celebrity worship that goes on. You know all of this. You know they say don't meet your heroes because eventually, you know, your heroes will live long enough to disappoint you. Of course you know. And so Every time. And so none of us, you know, we're all human beings that make mistakes, yep. And so the one thing maybe that I want on my headstone was that, you know, I was a guy that followed my passions and I was nice to my family, nice to my neighbors. I love it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my passions, and it was nice to my family, nice to my neighbors. I love it. Yeah, I love it. Hey, appreciate you coming. Thank you, yeah, thanks for coming. And one more shout out on the uh, the shows go. You have like 10 seconds.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, how about a humble last week where you get podcasts um, hum along, alternative rock radio with energy, passion and distortion at hum altcom. Okay, and uh yeah, just a huge thank you to Scott for having me on. Thank you so much to Nick for engineering, nick's amazing and you can find.

Speaker 1:

We can find you on social media.

Speaker 2:

Just yeah, yeah, I'm on social media, add me. I'll probably add you back Facebook and I know you're on Facebook, instagram Don't really do X too much, but I'm on there and yeah, nice on there. And yeah, tiktok. Yeah, I'm a long alternative on TikTok.

Speaker 1:

So that, yeah, that's where I saw the Queens.

Speaker 2:

Queens of the what? Queens of the Stoney? I'm going to go check that out again. Oh, that's good stuff. Yeah, you know what? If you want to check Queens of the Stone Age, I would recommend starting with. I would recommend starting with songs for the deaf.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

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