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From Welfare to Wealth + Resiliency with Tyler Copenhaver-Heath (part 2)

June 03, 2024 Pamela Cass and Natalie Davis Season 2 Episode 43
From Welfare to Wealth + Resiliency with Tyler Copenhaver-Heath (part 2)
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From Welfare to Wealth + Resiliency with Tyler Copenhaver-Heath (part 2)
Jun 03, 2024 Season 2 Episode 43
Pamela Cass and Natalie Davis

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Embark on a transformative expedition with Tyler Copenhaver-Heath, from his roots in welfare to his rise as a beacon of entrepreneurial and philanthropic success. Our latest episode promises to empower you with the gift of financial wisdom, as Tyler unveils the art of accounting through compelling storytelling, at absolutely no cost. For anyone in Arizona ready to revolutionize their business acumen, Tyler's approachable guidance on using tools like QuickBooks or Rocket Money will set the foundation for mastering your fiscal destiny. Moreover, Tyler's insights into the intersection of passion and profit, exemplified by brands like Patagonia, will inspire you to align your business goals with positive world change.

As we wander into the complex web of spider silk research, we uncover the touching tale of Larry and Mo – two spiders who bring to light the emotional and ethical dimensions of scientific curiosity. This episode isn't just about lessons learned in the lab; it's a clarion call for the youth to seize life with both hands, travel expansively, and constantly pursue personal excellence. We take a cue from Steve Jobs in knitting together disparate life experiences to craft a rich tapestry of self. Through stories of adversity and triumph, we illustrate the unmatched value of grit, and how sharing personal narratives can kindle a fire in others, demonstrating the courage it takes to reveal our true selves and the profound impact it can have.

About Tyler: 

From growing up on welfare with a father in prison to living in a desert trailer without basic amenities, Tyler's story is a testament to the indomitable human spirit. But why should this matter to you, dear podcast host, and your discerning audience?

Tyler's narrative is more than just a rags-to-riches tale. It's a blueprint for every underdog, bootstrapper, and game changer out there.


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Embark on a transformative expedition with Tyler Copenhaver-Heath, from his roots in welfare to his rise as a beacon of entrepreneurial and philanthropic success. Our latest episode promises to empower you with the gift of financial wisdom, as Tyler unveils the art of accounting through compelling storytelling, at absolutely no cost. For anyone in Arizona ready to revolutionize their business acumen, Tyler's approachable guidance on using tools like QuickBooks or Rocket Money will set the foundation for mastering your fiscal destiny. Moreover, Tyler's insights into the intersection of passion and profit, exemplified by brands like Patagonia, will inspire you to align your business goals with positive world change.

As we wander into the complex web of spider silk research, we uncover the touching tale of Larry and Mo – two spiders who bring to light the emotional and ethical dimensions of scientific curiosity. This episode isn't just about lessons learned in the lab; it's a clarion call for the youth to seize life with both hands, travel expansively, and constantly pursue personal excellence. We take a cue from Steve Jobs in knitting together disparate life experiences to craft a rich tapestry of self. Through stories of adversity and triumph, we illustrate the unmatched value of grit, and how sharing personal narratives can kindle a fire in others, demonstrating the courage it takes to reveal our true selves and the profound impact it can have.

About Tyler: 

From growing up on welfare with a father in prison to living in a desert trailer without basic amenities, Tyler's story is a testament to the indomitable human spirit. But why should this matter to you, dear podcast host, and your discerning audience?

Tyler's narrative is more than just a rags-to-riches tale. It's a blueprint for every underdog, bootstrapper, and game changer out there.


Support the Show.

Subscribe to Exclusive Content at www.ReigniteResilience.com

Don't forget to listen and follow on your favorite streaming platform and on Facebook.
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Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for general informational purposes only and is not intended as a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. The co-hosts of this podcast are not medical professionals. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition. Never disregard professional medical advice or delay in seeking it because of something you have heard on this podcast. Reliance on any information provided by the podcast hosts or guests is solely at your own risk.

Pamela Cass:

In the grand theater of life. We all seek a comeback, a resurgence, a rekindling of our inner fire. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience. This is not just another podcast. This is a journey, a venture into the heart of human spirit, the power of resilience and the art of reigniting our passions.

Natalie Davis:

Welcome back to part two of our two-part interview with Tyler Copenhaver-Heath. We are so excited to dive back in. Tyler has shared his own personal story how he's gone from being a child on welfare to being a successful entrepreneur and a tremendous philanthropist. Let's continue to listen in as Tyler shares some tips and tricks for you to implement in your business if you are aspiring to be an entrepreneur and make a difference in the world around you. We hope you enjoy.

Tyler Copenhaver:

If you're in the Arizona area, like I, will teach you accounting right Through a story and I will make it fun and you will change your business career in life. I promise you and I will charge you $0 to do it.

Pamela Cass:

I love that. That sounds like a good cost. Okay, so let's say someone's an entrepreneur that's listening to this right now and they're like I don't know my numbers. Where do they start? What's the recommendation numbers when do they start? What's the recommendation?

Tyler Copenhaver:

It's a wonderful question. I'm stumped because the best answer is the stuff that we're developing. You know it's like there is not a great way to do this. You know like you can go out there and YouTube university. You know, like, read some books, take some college courses. You know that sort of stuff. You want to know the basics, but like that's where, like by being scrappy bootstrappers, it's made us learn the things that we need to know and be real succinct with what those things are.

Tyler Copenhaver:

It's like I took accounting in college. I don't use most of it, but I'm the best managerial accountant I know, right, transactionary accountant, the best one I know and it's like I taught myself that through trial and error. And so now I would dare say the best way to learn it is the stuff that we're developing. You know, because it's going to save you a ton of time and it's going to get right to the point and it's going to make it fun and like also, I make it a big point to show you why this part of what we're teaching you is valuable. You see immediate ROI on like this is why I need this, you know, this is why I need to pay attention to it. So currently, you know, like, go out there, like download QuickBooks, take some QuickBooks courses, understand the basics of direct cost into direct cost. You know that'll get you a long way just those things you know.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Another thing I'm working on is and they will partner with me for some reason is I used to use this app called Truebill to teach people accounting. The first step for me is like download the app Truebill. Now it's owned, it's called Rocket Money, so download that and I want you to get in your own books in life right, and what I mean by that is, once you download now Rocket Money, you're going to connect your personal bank account to that right, and then, as your personal bank account, like you spend things, rent, going to the movies, these sort of things. What's going to happen is that's going to come into the app and then you're going to classify that transaction, right, and it's going to learn those at some point too. It's like oh, this is your rent, do you want to log this off to rent? And you're like yeah, yeah, I'll log that off to rent and so you can start to analyze. And this is good for financial literacy too, which very important and underrated in talking about business. So it's like start to use this and then guess what? At the end of the month you get this graph right and this graph says well, you spent $2,000 on rent. You made $4,000 in income. You spent 4,500 bucks on Uber Eats. You can start to analyze this like man. I got to close down this Uber Eats thing that's costing me $4,500 a month, and little did you know it.

Tyler Copenhaver:

In just the simple task of managing your life, you've now learned some basics in transaction accounting just like QuickBooks, very similar and you've now learned financial analysis in your own life. It doesn't get that much more complex. You can build on it from there, right, and so those are the basics right there. So that's the easiest start. I got to your question a very long answer, but that's the easiest way to start is by breaking simplicity right, starting out at the basics, understanding it in your own life and understanding it's one little step from here. And the way I'm able to teach people this way is because everybody fears accounting. But then they get in this little simple app in their own life and then they're like oh yeah, I see this and it's like okay, well, now let's get into QuickBooks, because it's not that much different.

Pamela Cass:

I love that.

Natalie Davis:

Tyler, what are some of the spaces that you feel or see people getting that? Like the things that make them upset right, like upset that there's not the burger place that has the great customer service. What are you seeing as some of those common trends with the folks that you're working with?

Tyler Copenhaver:

You know there's so much and I luckily run into a lot of passion driven business owners. And here's the other important thing too it's like it has to be. So there's nothing against charities. I don't want to go like and sound like I'm bad mouthing charities. In my mind I'm more into businesses that are for profit, that also happen to do something good, because now you're not accountable to fundraising. But my best example is Patagonia, right? So do you guys know much more about the Patagonia story? A little bit.

Tyler Copenhaver:

I always say his name wrong. I'm Shari Yvonne. He's the founder of Patagonia was a mountain climber and he wanted mountains to be available for future generations right, so he could have went out there and maybe he has some rich friends and he could have maybe raised a couple million dollars a year and made an impact on the climate of the world right? But instead he went out and he opened a for-profit business. Every single one of the t-shirts, jackets, pants, every single one of those that he sold had a percentage that went to his cause. Right, and at the same time for-profit business. Well, his shares he just retired. They were worth $3 billion. He gave them all to combat the same cause that he was interested in. He made more impact than anybody ever has on the planet for the planet by starting a first world for-profit business.

Tyler Copenhaver:

And so that's where, like, rather than getting into specifics of companies that I know, I would say, like, think about it that way. And here's the other. Like, pro to this too and this is everybody badmouths the younger generation. I don't at all. The younger generation wants to hold businesses accountable, and they should, right, there's no more ivory tower Like you can do whatever you want to the world. No, your business should be about something and actually people will quickly get rid of you if you're doing something wrong. So make your business about something right.

Tyler Copenhaver:

And not only that, but if you're on a mission, I call it mission-based business. It's like if you're on a mission, you have to have money to change things. So you have to have a good plan, you have to have a good strategy. The business needs to make money, but also figure out a way it makes change. Right, Every single one of the businesses that we're in makes change.

Tyler Copenhaver:

I mean even the recording studio here, right, it's like we charge people to come in here and record if they want to do that. We have a full production company. We just did a couple of commercials last week for huge household names that you recognize. But when we're not using the equipment for that, we get to go out and use the equipment to tell amazing stories, right. We have a couple initiatives, like I mentioned, with the podcasting stuff. So that is a for-profit business in production. But the side note is now we have all the assets we need to tell good stories and change the world through those educational aspects, right. So if people think about it enough, they'll think of ways that they can do that too.

Pamela Cass:

Love that passion-driven business. Yes.

Tyler Copenhaver:

There's a great way to check this too, in my opinion Get the business idea in your mind and go out and read the book Man's Search for Meaning Sorry about the title, he's kind of old school, Amazing book.

Tyler Copenhaver:

I want you to put that business idea in your mind and I want you to then read that book and I want you to decide if that's something you're doing within your mission-based life. Your mission in life Is it stepping you towards that? And it's okay, too, to like, hey, I'm going to open the landscaping business because that is going to get me to my next business, which is going to be the one I want to change the world with. You know, it's okay to do it that way too, but be intentional with your plan, because if you're intentional with your plan, you're intentional with your business. If you're intentional with your business, you'll know how to grow and what your business is going to be. There's different ways to position business depending on if you're going to build it and sell it or run it for the rest of your life. So it'll put all those things in alignment.

Pamela Cass:

Love it. Yeah, it's one of my favorite books. What advice would you give to a teenager graduating from high school and not quite knowing what they want to do yet?

Tyler Copenhaver:

Experience, you know, and it depends on the position they're in in life. Number one build a work ethic in any way, shape or form you can, and then get into things right, whether that volunteering or, you know, like, even like working in the spider lab, changed my life in so many ways. Spent a year in there. You know I don't work with polymers, you know, these days, but there is so much to what I've learned there, you know, and like what I've experienced there and, by the way, spiders have feelings. Believe it or not, I know you're going to think I'm crazy, but when you spend hours and hours every day alone with a bunch of spiders, you do like these things. So you never know how these things can change your life.

Natalie Davis:

That feelings and personalities both.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Do they?

Natalie Davis:

have both, okay. Okay, well, take your word for it.

Pamela Cass:

I'm going to take your word for it.

Tyler Copenhaver:

I'm not going to try to experience that, to see if that's true, I have a specific story that I won't share today, but I've witnessed it firsthand, I think you may have to share it now, after you just said that.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Okay, so in the lab, I have a key to the lab, right, and I would go in there, so I worked full time my whole entire way through college and so I'd usually go in there about three, four o'clock in the morning and you have to do what's called milking the spider, and so this is the sad part, because I'm such an animal lover you actually have to gas the spider, knock them out, and then you strap them down and then you have to look at them under a microscope, because there's different types of spider silk, right, spider web, and you, like, we were analyzing a specific type, which is the dragline silk.

Tyler Copenhaver:

It's the strongest, and so, basically, you pull the little bit of spider silk out and you strap it to this mechanism that actually literally rotates and milks the spider, and you have to do this for weeks before you get enough of a sample. And now you treat it and then it goes in for NMR analysis and we analyze the amino acid content of the spider silk, right, and so you're spending a lot of time in there, right? And I wanted my specimen pretty clean, so I used these two spiders that I named Larry and Mo, and I would alternate Larry and Mo, and one day I come in and, unfortunately, something happened with Mo. He passed away right, and Larry was never hard to get out of the cage before that, and then, after Mo passed away, he was. The other thing that he started doing is he started sucking his foot all the time. He would always be in there like sucking on his foot or what appeared to be, and so, yeah, he was sad his buddy died and he expressed those two things.

Pamela Cass:

So I'm assuming these are big spiders.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Yeah, nephila colopsis or bweber. So they're about the size of your hand, okay.

Pamela Cass:

Okay.

Natalie Davis:

Yeah.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Okay, all right, a little bit less, and they look kind of like a huge daddy, long legs, in a way.

Pamela Cass:

Oh, wow, okay, so spiders have feelings. We've learned something.

Natalie Davis:

Yes, yes, but I do want to circle it back, because you're giving advice to the young people. We don't want to miss the advice for the young people. Let them outside.

Pamela Cass:

Let them outside, don't let them outside Go experience.

Tyler Copenhaver:

So I belong to an MMA gym for 15 years now and so, like anytime, there's a bug in the gym. You have all these big tough guys and they'll be Tyler. There's a bug in the corner, cause they know I'll go grab it and let it outside.

Natalie Davis:

Tyler, there's a bug in the corner because they know I'll go grab it and let it outside. That's awesome.

Pamela Cass:

That is so awesome. Oh my gosh. All right. So for kids, it's go experience life, work hard, experience life, do different things, Because it sounds like all the different things that you did have just kind of built on where you've become today yeah, I mean one of my favorite and I don't love Steve Jobs for everything.

Tyler Copenhaver:

You know his life I would never emulate His business stuff. There's a lot of good stuff there, right, and that's what you should do in life too is like take and leave stuff. Don't try to be Steve Jobs, turtleneck and all. He was a horrible human being, I'm sorry. He didn't want anything to do with helping the world. You know, his business stuff was great and one of my favorite things that he said was his speech to, I believe, stanford. Talked about connecting the dots All those seemingly unrelated things in life.

Tyler Copenhaver:

So yeah, experience things. If you get a chance, please see the world. It grows your heart like no other. You know, like I've had some unbelievable experiences. I cornered a fight in Chechnya which Americans at the time I don't even think were allowed to go, and old man comes up running on the street, bodyguards that we had kind of started freaking out and they allowed it anyways. He comes up and he hugs me. He says thank you for coming to my country. This old man, you know, or being in Nigeria and I'm pretty hairy guy, you know it's like and the kids there had never seen a man with hair on his arms. They're petting me with like a cat everywhere I go it like. Those little descriptions I'm giving you are nothing compared to the way it builds your heart and mind, you know, and then, like the challenges you'll face, the way it makes you look in the mirror. I mean I say in our docu-series like if everybody in the world could take a walk with Scott through his trash, jump with the kids, the world would be a different place. So build your heart too, and build your heart by traveling, experiencing. Don't be afraid either to shoot for the moon. Who's to say that anybody's better than you? Nobody is.

Tyler Copenhaver:

And like, one thing that's really helped me in a lot of ways is when I started believing in myself slightly. I started also thinking about the nature of what it was to build an avatar on a video game. Right, it's like, and it seems silly, we spend a lot of time, you know like we make the avatar read the book and we know that increases the book little life meter. And then we know we make the avatar chop wood and he gets stronger and he learns to use his ax and you know that sort of stuff. When I started looking at my life like that, it's like it changed it completely. It's like now I do things that are moving this little meter every day. It's like every day, a little bit of reading every day like a workout, every day, like a new skill, a new certification, you know, a new like class to be in.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Like think about building your life like that, because you're going to require a well-built avatar. Let me put it this way, actually if I had continued to be 16 year old idiot Tyler, my whole life he would not be capable of doing the things that he's doing now. Yeah, but I've built this person now that is capable of doing anything, and it took a lot of years to do that. It took a lot of education, it took a lot of strength. Building confidence in the gym, you know, like building confidence in a mixed martial arts gym. It's like all these things traveling the world, like trying to help people, you know. It's like all these things have now built me to be in the perfect position to do what I'm doing, and if I hadn't been working on my avatar just as much as anything else, I wouldn't be capable of doing it.

Pamela Cass:

Yeah, I think that is going to resonate with kids, cause I know my son is a big Fortnite player and he's always getting new skins, and so that completely resonates with me. I'm going to use it with them Please.

Tyler Copenhaver:

I mean, it's one thing that absolutely changed my life, you know, and so it's like thinking about that. You know, like everything we do can either bring that skill level up or or not.

Pamela Cass:

Right, Well, I think sometimes kids today they're like, well, I want to do what that person did, but they don't do the, they don't look at what they've done to get to where they are. And it's been so many I know. I know for me. Same with Natalie. It's like I've had so many jobs over the years that a lot of people would never even do. But it's built who I am today and so grateful for every bit of it.

Tyler Copenhaver:

The worst experiences I've had, especially in employment, had built me exactly to who I am. You know, I had a job at the country club Worst job I ever had, Just about and I worked for a lot of really successful rich people, right, and I would six o'clock in the morning, I would valet right, and then I would switch over at two o'clock in the afternoon and I would work at their bar A lot of hours right and like around rich people and they would actually call me to help. They didn't treat me very well. You know. It's like that did so much for me. How do I put this? I could have decided to do the bare minimum and this is another message I've got for kids out there. It's like they didn't appreciate me. They didn't treat me right. You know all's 125 degrees here in Arizona. I would sprint the huge parking lot to get your car. Nobody is going to be faster at getting your car than me, sir, nobody. I will be the fast. I don't care how you're treating me. This is my revenge and because guess what Later on, what that built is my work.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Ethic for my own business. How? Ethic for my own business, how you think you're going to flip a switch and all of a sudden be a good worker when you run your own business. It's not going to happen. It was a practice for years and then teaching me too. It's like these successful people, these pillars of society they were no smarter than me, Not at all, like I saw, like the advantages they were given and like the way they would act and I was like I can, I can do better, you know. And like the second, you can see that normalcy, especially as underdogs. I'm telling you that's the one key you're missing. It's like your. Your best person you're seeing in the ghetto is like some rapper guy right, that's coming out. I guarantee if you could see how normal, successful people are, you'd say I could have anything in the world and you can't.

Pamela Cass:

Yeah, I love that. Every my the Outliers, where it talks about whatever job you do be the best at that job, and so I think that because you're able to move up so quickly and it opens opportunities for other things, and so, yeah, I love that.

Tyler Copenhaver:

I love it. I mean, let it hurt that they're going to lose you. You think they care if they lose a bad employee. No, let it hurt, you know. And then, like I watch for things in my world too, it's like I watch for somebody doing above and beyond. You know, if I have like a position opening up and I see somebody behind the ice cream counter that's doing like this kid at Cold Stone last year or something, he's back there. It's like they usually just scoop the ice cream or whatever. He is literally rocking out to the music. He's throwing the ice cream up, he's catching it behind his back. He could have done this job normal. Instead he did it. Amazing. You know. I look for people like that in my world, you know, and so, and other people do too.

Natalie Davis:

I love it, I love it.

Pamela Cass:

Natalie, did you have a question? I think I heard you.

Natalie Davis:

Yeah, no, I was just saying that that's amazing, because I think that's a big piece is that people don't realize that if they're showing up at 50% or even, I think in some cases, 25% in what they're doing today because it's not what they ultimately want to do, at the end of the day, that that's just going to carry on. You can't flip that on and off. If you're showing up 25% today, you're going to show up 25% when you start the business or if you can ever get it launched and off the ground. That's huge. And I see it so frequently with having conversations with future entrepreneurs that they want to do X, y and Z, but they're showing up very much mediocre right now, not giving their best, not trying to grow and better themselves, and then I question well, how much do you want it and where is that person that's going to show up to do that? Because it's not the person that I'm talking to right now.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Yeah, yeah, there's so much to that.

Pamela Cass:

I was in the restaurant industry for years, managing, and I remember one of my cooks came to me and he said I want a raise. And I'm like, well, tell me more about that. He goes well, I'll work harder if you pay me more. And I was like, actually, the way it works is you work hard and I reward you for working hard. And so he ended up quitting shortly after that. But I'm just like, but that some people have that mentality. It's like, well, I'm not going to work hard until I'm getting rewarded for it, instead of the vice, like I'm showing up 150% for everything I do and the reward will come after that or it might not, or it might not, that's okay too.

Pamela Cass:

And that's okay, but you did it.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Yeah, I believe it does like cause how you practice, right, it's like everything I thought sucked in life. You know like I've I worked full time. You know, in school and in my job it's hard to work a degree in bio, or, excuse me, work full time and have a degree in biochemistry that you're pursuing. That was hard. You know I literally a couple months in advance. I love movies. I'd be like, oh, I can go see that movie in three and a half months. Right, that was my schedule. You know it's like and so, but it was perfectly building me for my business someday. I didn't know that. Do you think the hours are much to me now? No, you know, like not at all, because I was so used to those hours anyway. So you never know like the things that suck, they're actually building you. Like growing up poor actually built me into like somebody that uses a dollar really well and respects it. You know it's like. So all these things that were like disadvantages and I don't know why, like I feel like sharing this today too.

Tyler Copenhaver:

A buddy of mine said the other day to me he's like your father doing 15 years in prison was for you, and like I hadn't really thought it's amazing when you reframe something. I hadn't really thought about things that way, and you know it's for me because now I get to have way more impact in the world. Right, tyler had grown up. My dad was a successful guy until he went to prison. He's a drug dealer, but we had money as a very young kid.

Tyler Copenhaver:

If I had grown up in that world, I wouldn't be able to make near the impact as I am now. So my dad going to prison in some of the worst prisons in the country, which is not fair. The system needs to be reformed. But on top of that, he went and he did these this time and now what does it do? For me? It's like Tyler's dad was in prison. Tyler grew up without him and look at what Tyler's been able to accomplish and the hope is that inspires other kids. You know, and I know some kids that I've met whose parents are in prison that have told me that my stories helped them. So you know, it's like you have to reframe these things in life these ways sometimes, and then you can use them instead of let them destroy you.

Pamela Cass:

Well, it's resilience. It's using resilience to launch you into something different, better.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Yeah, I couldn't have any impact. I don't think on the world the same way had it not been my story.

Pamela Cass:

Absolutely, and I think sharing it too is the pivotal part of it.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Well and that's something new for me, right, I would you. I would you got more information out of me than I would tell a five-year girlfriend up until about three years ago. Like this stuff I never talked about, you know, and and in fact even with the charity stuff, I used to volunteer at a children's home here in town for five years. I never told anybody I was going there. You know it's like. I volunteered at the animal shelter you know like for in the clinic there, and I would never tell anybody I was going there. Never tell anybody. I went to Nigeria to help, you know, as I would never tell people these things.

Tyler Copenhaver:

And one thing that changed for me is I came back one time and one of the members of my board of directors for one of my companies. He makes like $3 million a year. It's public, I don't know what it is at this point and his buddies all make millions of dollars a year. And he's like Tyler, why don't you ever tell me you're doing this stuff? I'd love to help, and so Tyler can make a lot of impact. But Tyler's board of directors, with millions of dollars, can make an incredible impact too. And so what I would say is if you're going to give somebody on the street 20 bucks, keep it quiet. If you're part of an organization that you're showing up to every day, that you care about, that you're passionate about, then shame on you for not talking about it right? How many people would have wanted to go with me to the children's home? How much awareness would it have brought to what they're doing? They collect donations via furniture and they sell it, and they make millions of dollars a year to fund the home. How many people would have donated if I would have just said something? So shame on me for being selfish like that. And this is an incredible tool to make change. If I had never heard a story, I wouldn't be where I am today either. So more good people need to be using this tool.

Tyler Copenhaver:

I'm convinced of it and I'm afraid as hell of this thing. When you grow up in an environment that says we don't use names on the phone, we're not telling people where we're moving to, you don't talk about the family at all. How much do you think it's scary to share it on a camera when that's built into your subconscious kid, you know it's like, but it's a brave thing that I'm approaching, but to me. It's brave, you know and like, and if the answer is your heart's in the right place and you fear it, you have to do it Hands down and it's led me to some unbelievable things.

Tyler Copenhaver:

And what I've noticed now is guess what Tyler just happens to randomly like I don't want to bore the audience with the story today, but the foster connections was literally me asking to have dinner with some people around age out foster care and help with it and somehow that became Tyler's going to start a foundation and the second that happened. Now I had a bunch of people rally to my cause. It turns out it's probably going to get funded to the terms of millions of dollars in the first year. I have incredible people on the board and as partners, you know, and it's all because we're talking about it. Right, you can't have people rally to good causes if you don't talk about it, and you can't have stories that will help people if you don't talk about your story.

Pamela Cass:

There's always somebody that needs to hear it, yeah yeah, hopefully that wasn't a tangent.

Natalie Davis:

No, it wasn't, it was perfect. Thank you for sharing that.

Pamela Cass:

I love it. All right final words what would you like to leave the audience with today? You?

Tyler Copenhaver:

know. I just think that we've got life confused sometimes, you know, and I think if we watch some of the most successful, some of the people that have it all, we will notice on the regular that that's not happiness. How many people that are the famous, are the wealthy, are the have everything that are miserable people. And I've chosen this life of making changes and the things that I want to change. But the happiest people I know are happy in their simple job being with their family every day. You don't have to shoot for the moon. You know like to have an amazing life. Most of the people that do just what they want to do. They work their job that they're okay with and like enjoy their time with the family. They're the happiest people I know. Or you solopreneurs out there like working a business by yourself. You know like they're some of the happiest people I know.

Tyler Copenhaver:

So decide what your own frame to success is. See it like that Happy Gilmore show, or Happy Gilmore when he's visualizing his winning place, or whatever it. Gilmore show or happy Gilmore when he's when he's visualizing his winning place, or whatever it's like. See your success place. Oh, it's his happy place. See your success place. Close your eyes, what does that look like? And if you're visualizing what everybody else, the marketing world, has talked to you, you're wrong. You have to find out what that thing is so you can align your mission to it and then, once you align your mission to it, decide that your mission can be anything, even if it's simple to some people you know, and then work on something that's changing of value, you know, and that could be raising incredible kids or starting a foster foundation or anything else, and I think that as much as I've learned in 42 years is like the more important aspects of the world.

Pamela Cass:

I love it. How can people find you?

Tyler Copenhaver:

Pretty easy to find. The best way is probably Instagram at Tyler Uriah. As I mentioned, when I started all this stuff I was deathly afraid of it, and so Tyler is actually my first name. Uriah is my middle name. Full name is Tyler Uriah Copenaber Heath, but my Instagram I used to hide on. I didn't tell anybody in the world that actually knew me originally when I started the account. So it's at Tyler Uriah and that connects to my podcasts, my business stuff, everything else.

Pamela Cass:

Awesome, awesome.

Natalie Davis:

Any other questions, Natalie? No, I was just going to say we're going to make sure that we tag your Instagram handle on the show notes so that folks can get in touch with you, as well as plugging your website so that they can connect with you as well and learn more about what you have going on.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Yeah, thanks so much. Absolute pleasure and an honor to be here. Thank you for what you guys do and glad to share all that stuff when it comes my way.

Pamela Cass:

Yeah, been an honor.

Natalie Davis:

Oh my gosh, absolute pleasure. Thank you, tyler, and thank you for being vulnerable and sharing your story and definitely thank you for the insight. I know that I had a ton of ahas at every show, every guest that we have on, I learn more about myself and I find things that I want to start doing and implementing in my own life and in my business, and today is no exception to that. So thank you so much for that. And, again, if we will make sure that we get all of Tyler's contact information out there for the listeners so that you guys can connect with him, follow up, follow his journey and a lot of the work that he's working on as well, and if you guys want more information about Reignite Resilience, remember that you can head over to reigniteresiliencecom to hear more about our community as well. Until next time, we'll see you all soon. Thanks, guys.

Tyler Copenhaver:

Thank you so much.

Natalie Davis:

Fabulous thank you. Thank you for joining us on today's episode of Reignite Resilience. We hope that you had amazing ahas and takeaways. Remember to subscribe on your favorite streaming platform, like it and download the upcoming episodes, and if you know anyone in your life that is looking to continue to ignite their resilience, share it with them. We look forward to seeing you on our future episodes and until then, continue to reignite that fire within your hearts.

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